NATIVE VS DLSS PART 2 / Which one is better? / 1080p Native vs 1440p NATIVE vs 4K DLSS PERFORMANCE

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  • @irun2sanaxox
    @irun2sanaxox 11 місяців тому +35

    thats kinda crazy, it’s noticeably more clear & at performance

    • @paulojamesminimoisaac7858
      @paulojamesminimoisaac7858 9 місяців тому

      its amazing until you find out 4k dlss performance performance is much heavier than native 1080p probably even more taxing than native 1440p

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  9 місяців тому +9

      That is still amazing. I think nobody is expecting that the reconstruction from 1080p has no cost.
      People who uses this is not expecting to uqve same performance than a native 1080p.
      They want better performance than at native 4k with most of the same image quality.
      People who play at 4k knows what they are doing

    • @ElmorQuistin
      @ElmorQuistin 6 місяців тому +2

      @@paulojamesminimoisaac7858 Wouldn't you get more fps from 4k dlss performance compared to the 1440p native?

    • @oxxylix504
      @oxxylix504 6 місяців тому +3

      @@ElmorQuistin that's what usually the tests show. People get more fps at 4k performance than 1440p native

    • @TheMrSatyricon
      @TheMrSatyricon 5 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@ElmorQuistin yes. For example my 6900 xt in Ghost of Tsushima with 2k native drains 290-330 watts, when 4k perf I get 240-280 watts.
      @for 75Hz

  • @HopemanGG
    @HopemanGG 11 місяців тому +16

    I think it could be interesting to compare something like 1080p DLAA with 1440p DLSS.
    Also, even if it is not the focus of the video, it would be nice to see the fps counter at all times to roughly compare, at least on the videos.
    P.S.: Surprised how well 1080p holds up in Spiderman. Doesn't look bad at all.

  • @TheNyayko
    @TheNyayko 9 місяців тому +7

    Thank you man ! You really understand my needs

  • @KoseChris
    @KoseChris Рік тому +15

    exactly what i was looking for, thank you 👍

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  Рік тому

      Thank you.
      Sorry for the spam but
      I hope you consider subscribing,😀

  • @timothysullivan-pm3sl
    @timothysullivan-pm3sl 5 місяців тому +2

    Your side by sides are awesome man some of the best I've seen glad I found your channel got a new subscriber lol

  • @saifhassan9673
    @saifhassan9673 Рік тому +4

    really amazing video dude.. u are truly underrated..

  • @cashmoney2159
    @cashmoney2159 8 місяців тому +3

    are you aware about the dldsr feature of in the nvidia control panel? with it we can make a 1440p panel as 4k and use this 4k performance mode on a 1440p display, but im wondering which will win in this scenario as the dldsr isnt as good as a physical display with 4k resolution . try making a video comparing dldsr with native 1080p or 1440p displays

  • @faildrian42
    @faildrian42 8 місяців тому +3

    Exactly what I was lookin for! Thanks :)

  • @cratos900
    @cratos900 2 місяці тому +1

    This video was exactly what i was searching for thx!

  • @ogrodniczek3836
    @ogrodniczek3836 9 місяців тому +3

    What is the performance difference between the versions?

  • @lamarmottedesinternets5134
    @lamarmottedesinternets5134 2 дні тому

    It's crazy that dlss performance 4k is clearer, with less pixels to compute it

  • @themetalnoir2233
    @themetalnoir2233 5 місяців тому +2

    Really detailed real life performance test. Thank you so much.

  • @bluesharpie9744
    @bluesharpie9744 8 місяців тому

    This is all great, but I'm wondering what the performance cost is. Less FPS? More VRAM use? VRAM is in short supply these days.

  • @C0manso
    @C0manso 7 місяців тому +1

    I was wondering if you'd try dlss tweaks and start comparing custom input resolutions.
    I had the idea of, since 1440p quality is 960p input resolution. Maybe you could try the same 960p to 4K, and see if it's worth it over the 1080p input (the fps gain and if the fidelity loss is not much). Especially with the newest DLL and Preset E.
    Or if a game isn't that taxing until 4K DLAA, I do 0.90 input resolution. Looks to my eye basically the same as DLAA, but a decent FPS bump.

  • @TheMrSatyricon
    @TheMrSatyricon 11 місяців тому

    What about 1440p with DLSS quality? Shimmering should be gone?

  • @jeanmichelansolin9968
    @jeanmichelansolin9968 Рік тому +2

    I have a 1440p monitor, do you recommend playing on 4K DLDSR + DLSS Performance?

    • @tadejloncar
      @tadejloncar Рік тому +3

      if gpu 3080 or above yes. if no, no

    • @jeanmichel805
      @jeanmichel805 Рік тому +4

      ​@@tadejloncarMy 3070 is running 4k pretty well.

    • @NamTran-xc2ip
      @NamTran-xc2ip 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jeanmichel805Depends on what games and how many fps you want. For example a 3050 can do 4k60 ish with appropriate settings.

  • @harrison1671
    @harrison1671 8 місяців тому

    Do you think it is also that a lot of these games don't even have 4k textures and what not?

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  8 місяців тому

      Well is hard to say, what does it mean to have a texture at 4K to be honest? does every textures need to be that high? what about VRAM usage then? is not so simple.

    • @harrison1671
      @harrison1671 8 місяців тому

      @extremegraphicstech yes, more vram. There are countless games that have community made 4k texture packs because the company never made them. Now, are they 4k? I don't know, but they are more detailed and use more vram.

  • @svinjadebela6893
    @svinjadebela6893 10 місяців тому +1

    nice video! would love to see in-depth difference in performance between 4k DLSS and 1440p native.

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  10 місяців тому

      4K dlss at what level of Dlss?

    • @svinjadebela6893
      @svinjadebela6893 10 місяців тому

      @@extremegraphicstech performance. my bad.

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  10 місяців тому +1

      Oki dokie, subscribe and keep and eye on the channel will see what I can do

    • @svinjadebela6893
      @svinjadebela6893 10 місяців тому

      @@extremegraphicstech Oh, thx! Was already subbed. :D
      Another good idea, maybe even better (IMHO) might be to compare image quality and performance between DLSS and FSR, in a way that DLSS balanced/performance sometimes gives better image than FSR quality. That is an actual, huge FPS boost in favor of nvidia, when you need that extra bit of power the most. Haven't seen other youtubers do that kind of comparison. Might be nice to see. Cheers.

    • @UltimateLF
      @UltimateLF 3 місяці тому

      He said that fps in 4k dlls_p is about the same as 1440p native, but it can vary from one game to another

  • @alejandroalonsosoto2052
    @alejandroalonsosoto2052 Рік тому +4

    I prefer 4K + DLSS

    • @zobanz
      @zobanz Рік тому

      Try on some multyplayer games still not usable better stay off dlss if play mp especially first person shooters.

    • @alexandrutiberius5715
      @alexandrutiberius5715 Рік тому

      I want to get 4k but I don't know if I should leave 1080p 27inch with maximum raytracing and 144hz in all games

  • @andreknox6132
    @andreknox6132 10 місяців тому

    You used 1444p monitor and DLDSR to 4k in the 1444p NATIVE? or i wrong

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  10 місяців тому +1

      Wrong. Besides the monitor used here is irrelevant

    • @andreknox6132
      @andreknox6132 10 місяців тому

      why @@extremegraphicstech

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  10 місяців тому +1

      Because I am recording footage straight from the gpu

    • @andreknox6132
      @andreknox6132 10 місяців тому

      ​@@extremegraphicstech Yo you understand well this things.
      Sorry to ask, but...
      If I have a full HD 27 monitor, and I want to record gameplay in 4k.
      If I use DLDSR/DSR to record the screen in 4k, will the result be the same as if I were using a native 4k 27 monitor?
      (I speak for the final result of the video)
      Or would the ideal be to record in FULL HD and upscale to 4K? than send to YOuTube

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  10 місяців тому +1

      @andreknox6132 no by using dldsr or dsr you will record at your native resolution because the final image is downsampled to whatever is your output and there is no point on recording at 1080p and then blowing the image at 4k

  • @fmatax
    @fmatax 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the video. It would be interesting to add 4k native to the samples.

  • @TTT-3xt9
    @TTT-3xt9 7 місяців тому

    exactly what i was looking for :) Thank you

  • @504Trey
    @504Trey 5 місяців тому

    Do Native 1440p OLED upscaled to 4k vs 4K IPS DLSS performance please 🙏🏽

  • @TheQJumper
    @TheQJumper Рік тому +5

    Nice vid. Just judging by image quality 4k is the way to go, however there is still the matter of costs and framerate, as high framerate 4k monitors are kinda expensive. People gaming on a budget typically go for 1440p or 1080p even.

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 10 місяців тому +3

      The prices have fallen down quite a lot recently, I've seen some 4K monitors with 144hz and even 240hz refresh rates for 450.500 which is starting to resemble high refresh rate 1440p prices.

    • @audie-cashstack-uk4881
      @audie-cashstack-uk4881 7 місяців тому

      People play switch 2 on tvs wel come to the future

  • @dnkestudio
    @dnkestudio 5 місяців тому

    Hay algo que no entiendo, el juego está corriendo realmente a qué resolución? 1440p reescalado a 4k? o 1080p reescalado a 4k?

  • @Parziknall1
    @Parziknall1 9 місяців тому

    What kind of fps difference is there?

  • @nathanaelrolando4470
    @nathanaelrolando4470 3 місяці тому

    This comparison using monitor 4k or 2k? Thankyou

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  3 місяці тому

      Why do people ask the monitor? This has nothing to do with monitors

    • @nathanaelrolando4470
      @nathanaelrolando4470 3 місяці тому

      @@extremegraphicstech oh im sorry, bcoz im new in here, thats mean if my monitor is 4k? N play games with 1080/1440 p thats mean the graphic would be detail in monitor 4k or would be blurry? Thankyou

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  3 місяці тому

      @nathanaelrolando4470 that will depend on the monitor and their upscale quality, but these are sirect feed capture it has no relation to the monitor

  • @SupremacyGamesYT
    @SupremacyGamesYT 8 місяців тому

    enjoyed the test.
    What software did you use to compair screenshots like that? ty

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  8 місяців тому

      Icat from nvidia

    • @SupremacyGamesYT
      @SupremacyGamesYT 8 місяців тому

      @@extremegraphicstech Yes, I tried that app, but it doesn't scale the images properly with each other so, at least for me. So you really can't properly analyze them. How do you get yours to work?

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  8 місяців тому

      It does scale properly

    • @SupremacyGamesYT
      @SupremacyGamesYT 8 місяців тому

      @@extremegraphicstech Yea I have no idea what's the problem with it, I've tried both various images and videos, this is silly.

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  8 місяців тому

      @@SupremacyGamesYT When taking videos or screenshots is better to do it with the game in Windowes fullscreen so it will always be the same resolution. In case your screenshots are different resolutions in iCAT next to the image or video you have a cogwheel to "resize" the image and make both the same size

  • @ahuman8711
    @ahuman8711 6 місяців тому +1

    how is the fps ?

    • @Ballek0
      @Ballek0 6 місяців тому

      In my case, 4K DLSS on quality, gives same fps as 1440p native.

    • @ahuman8711
      @ahuman8711 6 місяців тому

      @@Ballek0 i was wondering if 4k performance will be better than 1080p native

  • @julianevska9
    @julianevska9 Рік тому +8

    Thanks god somebody now explain a low brain people why 4k is better, i really don't understand people who tell me about 0 difference between 27 1440p and 27 4k

    • @nuribayram6740
      @nuribayram6740 2 місяці тому

      He is showing zoomed in images, depending on how big your tv is you might not see a big difference, also the gaming experience won't change that much thats why some people say it. I'm pro any kind of progress, even with the playstation pro(which some see as useless). So the gaming experience might nog change, getting everything ready for 4k is the next step in gaming it helps the gaming industry.

  • @extinctant8257
    @extinctant8257 Рік тому +1

    your videos are amazing

  • @andresreacher8790
    @andresreacher8790 7 місяців тому

    More pixels always win, in 1080p we have 2.073.600 pixels. in 1440p we have 3.686.400 and in 4k we have 8.294.400 pixels, only problem is the cash we need to have a 4k monitor with at least more than 85hz and minimum 32´´ to have a very good experience, not just the 60fps, thats around 500 bucks, a good gpu even with upscaling tech in 4k we need power from the gpu, minimum 700 for 4k dlss/fsr 70-80 fps on heavy games, but if you are not from "south america" like me its worth to play at 4k, the quality is amazing.

    • @farisakhtar4824
      @farisakhtar4824 5 місяців тому

      More pixels isn't always better, some people are satisfied with 1440p, some are satisfied with 1080p.

    • @andresreacher8790
      @andresreacher8790 5 місяців тому

      @@farisakhtar4824 It's ok, you can feel satisfied with your personal choice, i'm good with my "2k" monitor, but of course when i get the chance go for 4k, when i say more pixels always is better, really is, more pixels, more quality, more details, i don't say is "mandatory" go to maximum resolution, this is your choice, that i saying is more pixels always is better in graphic fidelity and this is a fact, is irrefutable

    • @farisakhtar4824
      @farisakhtar4824 5 місяців тому

      @@andresreacher8790 I'm satisfied with my 32inch 1440p monitor. It produces an image that is clearly more than 1080p, so that is enough for me. My brother has a 4k monitor at the same size, and the difference is there but not as much as 1080p to 1440p. He even though my monitor was 4k when I first got it and he used it. As a lot of games render on console at 1440p anyway, they can look better on my monitor as it's native resolution.

  • @Michael-c3m8r
    @Michael-c3m8r 27 днів тому

    Good to know have 4k oled

  • @danielegiangregorio4183
    @danielegiangregorio4183 6 місяців тому +2

    4K DLSS Performance is just to not say 1080p. That's it.

  • @digitalsublime
    @digitalsublime 8 місяців тому

    the fps difference would be nice

  • @danieljones6673
    @danieljones6673 10 місяців тому

    Great video mate, you’ve earned a sub 😁, I’ve just built a pc 7800x3d 32gb, just not decided on the gpu, I was thinking of getting a monitor, but I might stick with my LG C1 and go 4K with Dlss, very helpful video 👌😉👍

  • @nhatanhnguyen7597
    @nhatanhnguyen7597 4 місяці тому

    Nice video . I need you make more video show FPS😊

  • @simoncaldera6422
    @simoncaldera6422 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video sir

  • @rami30
    @rami30 4 місяці тому

    The pic is better on 4k p but it’s not 4 or 2 times better than 2k & 1080p 👀

  • @mrezareviews
    @mrezareviews 10 місяців тому

    This is not a good comparison because you're comparing things frozen as screeshots, This technology needs to be analyzed through motion.

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  10 місяців тому +5

      You clearly didn’t watch the video

    • @mrezareviews
      @mrezareviews 10 місяців тому

      @@extremegraphicstech What I mostly mean is the fast camera movements. But thank you for the clarification.

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  10 місяців тому +3

      Dude, you are honestly just hanging on what you can now, now is camera movement when normally everything is very blurry anyway, with ghosty lcd panels that doesn't have the best of motion clarity?
      Your eyes will not be able to see any big difference during fast paced or camera movements anyway with or without dlss.
      And no, you didn't meant that, you specifically said "analyzed through motion" there is motion examples, full of trees, particles and other objects moving, but now is not enough.

  • @NstVane
    @NstVane 11 днів тому

    Do native dlaa

  • @Agrabelek_Michal_K
    @Agrabelek_Michal_K Рік тому +1

    👍

  • @Leelareso
    @Leelareso 11 місяців тому +1

    1440p dlss quality its best

  • @ConorX3m
    @ConorX3m 5 місяців тому

    it need to test in move, not stable frames, dlss have worse clarity in move

  • @ComboDamageTV
    @ComboDamageTV 4 місяці тому

    Native all day. DLSS still has artifacts.

    • @PeterPauls
      @PeterPauls 22 дні тому

      Just like Native if you use TAA.

    • @ComboDamageTV
      @ComboDamageTV 22 дні тому

      @@PeterPauls guess I wont be using either then and just stick with native. 🤷

  • @AMP889
    @AMP889 10 місяців тому

    Native resolutions all the way!!! No matter if its 1080p, 1440p or 4k, nothing will compare to having the correct hardware to put out the resolution you wants without any scaling or fake resolution technology

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  10 місяців тому +8

      Bad take but ok

    • @audie-cashstack-uk4881
      @audie-cashstack-uk4881 7 місяців тому

      It's clear dlss is superior

    • @AMP889
      @AMP889 7 місяців тому

      @@audie-cashstack-uk4881 if you have lets say a 4060 wich is a 1080p and you want to play in 2k then yes, thats actually what those tec’s are for, but if you have the propper gpu to put out 2k resolution then you dont need any upscaler bullshit and its going to look and perform better

    • @extremegraphicstech
      @extremegraphicstech  7 місяців тому

      Perform better? That is actually impossible

    • @c523jw7
      @c523jw7 5 місяців тому

      Lucky you have a 6090. You must have a sh#t gaming experience or your playing old ass games.
      Good luck to you 😂

  • @spirit3832
    @spirit3832 10 місяців тому

    1440p and 1080p is useless

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 10 місяців тому

      Not really, for competitive gaming you'll need a beefy GPU to max out a 4K monitor's high refresh rate with enough headroom to avoid stutters.

    • @farisakhtar4824
      @farisakhtar4824 5 місяців тому

      1440p looks great, what are you on?