@@tighejs Haha yes of course both care about more, otherwise they'd even hire murders as long as they are good woodworkers :). Statement was meant as a fundamental ideal that is really awesome to see in action.
Agreed. Also, I'm not sure there's enough content for 5 Wyrmlifes a week. I feel like we get a fairly good highlight reel for the week, and anything more would just be too much. XD
I will say, if you guys find some cool ideas to explore, you could come up with some entertaining episodes that fill 5 days a week, but they will be alot different then the current update focused episodes. I advise if you increase the numbers keeping the company news clearly labelled either to one of the weekly episodes or at the beginning of each episode so people that don't have the time for super regular viewing can know where to get the news, rather then have to sort through the fun and entertaining fluff.
The issue of the millennial discussion is saying they don’t VALUE heirloom furniture. If you said they don’t PRIORITIZE heirloom furniture then you’d be mostly correct. I’d love to have high quality furniture, but with limited funds I have to prioritize the things I’m using 8-12 hours a day vs once a week.
100% this! I would LOVE to have sturdy heirloom furniture. But I need to prioritize what I use EVERY DAY. I use my phone countless times a day, I use my computer multiple times a day. I sit in a chair in my apartment...once a week? If I'm not working then I'm either sleeping or decompressing by playing a game. Unfortunately, my apartment is not where I play tabletop games (unless it's online, but I have a nice office chair that I spent good money on for that). I play tabletop games at a boardgame cafe or at my singular friend who has space for a dining room table and chairs.
Exactly! And, like, even the things I use on the regular I have to seek out the cheapest options. Getting clothes from goodwill, scavenging for coupons to get maybe 20% off at a retail store, even going to Habitat ReStore for the vast majority of my furniture. I don't have the privilege of money to support businesses like these just in general
Thank you for putting this into words that aren’t just frustration at them. My phone or computer are tools I use for work for communication and are basically necessities. I feel like they don’t sit in the same category as something like choices of furniture or clothing brands. Like if I had a 1000$ Gucci bag on making that argument hell yeah your right but today you can get a 900$ phone for 30$ a month. You aren’t required to upfront that anymore like you would with a piece of furniture.
There's nothing special about financing a phone that doesn't apply to financing other purchases. If you're on the iPhone upgrade program you're paying interest to Citizen's Bank at rates similar to most credit cards. You could put furniture on a credit card, or take out a personal loan if a fixed monthly payment is also acceptable. I'm not saying you should go finance a table - just that it's really not any different in practice than financing a phone.
Also like I can fit a phone into my tiny apartment. I cannot fit a dining table. I would love a dining table, I would probably prioritise and finance one but I can't afford a place to live that's big enough to fit a dining table.
I'd have “Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. -G.K. Chesterton" engraved on my table.
Wyrmwood has quality accessories. Don't make Wyrmlife into a quantity over quality. 1 Wyrmlife a day would mean that there wouldn't be enough stuff actually happening to have a good episode
I feel like if they were to do like 5 episodes per week it should be like divided into woodshop, management, retail, furniture, etc. Just so it's not the same people over and over
I actually prefer it the way it is now with the current amount of episodes. One of the few regular shows I watch all the time. I feel like even one or two more a week would make me feel oversaturated and would stop me from coming here as constant as I do now.
another bsrrier to heirloom furniture is not having a settled home on a ground floor. If your renting or live in an apartment, then your purchase consideration also includes how much space it takes up and how hard it would be to move or carry up and down stairs in a move.
But these new products they are making are shipped disassembled and you put them together. So that means when you move you can just take it apart again.
Every time you move a piece of furniture there's a chance you'll drop it or bump it. And if you're assembling and dismantling furniture every 6 months because you've gotta move again stuff wears out.
That's actually a good point, I happen to own a few pieces of furniture that were passed down from grandparents and they've all suffered a little bit in moves despite taking care.
@@Fsudrydenop is still right. I'll 100% avoid buying something because of how hard it is to move. It doesn't matter if you can take it apart. That means I have to take it apart and move it. Still a problem lol
I'm very glad wyrmlife is covering this new company team up. Its a good learning experience and behind the scenes look. I will say this side of wyrmlife is a bit more sour toned then the Massachusetts side but that makes sense given the stakes,crunch,and new personalities and work culture. I wish you all the best of luck and hope to see this become more positive as good news keeps happening! (Also offer LED engravings as a stretch goal like the dwarven hex table :D)
3:38 Yes, i have a computer, but not cause i was like "i want one for the funsies", it's because i need one to work, i need one for school, it's out of neccesity. I don't need a heriloom furniture, that's a want thing, and i won't want one unless i have the excess money for it. Boomers valued legacy, houses, cars, furnitures, things they can leave for their kids when they grew up, Milennials don't 'cause the world is a shit show. Most of us don't have the idea of having kids until waaay later if at all. We don't have the money for legacy and make future lives more comfortable, we barely have the money to make our own lives comfortable with a "slight sense" of luxury.
But let's be honest-- technology is cheaper now to fabricate than it's ever been, yet the costs keep rising. $1200 for a phone is absolutely ridiculous!
@@hemming-ways I never understood people who actually pay over about $500 for a new phone. I got mine for under $100 (before tax) at a Target, and it's served me fine.
@@hemming-ways - $1200 is the price of _the latest version_ of the most expensive phone. The price isn't really going up on equivalent models, you can buy an iPhone 6 for a fraction of the cost of the next version when it comes out.
I mean if we are going to compare a chair to a computer/smartphone, the latter serves so many more needs that spending money on them is more easily justified. You could argue that a smart phone is nearly required to participate in large swaths of modern society.
I think it's more "Do you buy a flagship $1000 phone and some cheap ikea furniture" or "Do you buy a cheap sub-$200 Android and some fancy heirloom furniture" What do you value more? I know what I value more. The phone with the nice, hi-res crisp screen, that's fast af and has a battery that lasts all day and can be wirelessly charged to 80% in half an hour. If you'd ask a Boomer, they'd go with the cheap phone and value the furniture far more. Both the cheap and expensive phone have the same capabilities. Twitter, UA-cam, Facebook, Banking, Browsing. They can all do it. Both the cheap Ikea and fancy heirloom furniture have the same capabilities. Where do you want to spend more money? For us, answer's probably gonna be the phone. Or a fast, thin, sleek computer. We could do all the same stuff on a cheap Acer, but it's not as pleasant. Same as sitting on cheap Ikea furniture isn't as pleasant as sitting on a Chesterfield. But both will cup your ass fine.
@@FortesqueDaniel you've made an assumption that everyone who doesn't buy expensive furniture buys expensive phones instead...there's a large group of people that can't afford either. And if I've saved up enough money I'm going to invest more in the thing I actually need. Getting a cheap phone and an expensive heirloom table doesn't make sense (and is kindof irresponsible) if the thing I need is the phone. Just sayin
@@FortesqueDaniel The thing is a nice heirloom quality dining set costs 5k to 8k and then your home style better not change. A computer costs 2k on the high end, and style changes have minimal impact. Smart phones, even if you bought a new one every 2 or 3 years, up until recently it was $600 per phone. I've spent 2k on TVs or couches because I do values those more than dining room furniture though. So I think that's a better example. But heirloom quality dining sets cost 2 to 3 times more than a couch or TV or a computer.
I'm really excited about this partnership and I really appreciate all of this insight to the merger. I'm a millennial but I really like good furniture that's affordable (I also live in a major city so life be expensive) so I'm super hopeful to buy some of these products eventually! I just really love this company and the people in it. I guess I appreciate the people and product more because of wyrmlife so thanks for this you guys, you're doing an amazing job
That's great to hear my fellow millennial! Thank you for the kind words 😄❤️ We hope to keep the cost on these tables super low (and it's looking like we might actually come in under $750 🤞)
Same. I'm a millennial who dreams of owning a Wyrmwood table one day, but right now I'm just not in a stable enough place to invest right now, not only in terms of money but also in terms of living space. So for now I'll settle for dice vaults and towers, and continue to build my dream table in my head haha.
Jason (having a salaried job position where he can afford a phone, an heirloom quality table, food, a house, and gaming accessories) holds up phone: people are spending the same amount on this that they could spend on furniture! me (pre-COVID working 3-6 jobs and barely scraping by): no Jason, i NEED a phone for work, like communication in case of shift coverage, call outs, emails, ext. i don't need a table. i WANT a table. sure i can capture "experiences" from my phone, but that's not why i got it. when i can get a Wyrmwood table for $40, i'm sold....but until then, you can't compare the 2.
The difference between dropping $1200 on a chair vs $1200 on a computer. @Wyrmwood 1. A computer serves more needs than a Chair. A chair is used for sitting at a table. A computer serves Email, work, class, Entertainment, and Communication. 2. At the end of the day how often are you sitting in said chair vs using technology. 3. Justifying costs for technology is easier when you need it vs a Chair you don't technically need. All in all I'm more likely to drop the money for technology than the Chair due to it's uses. I will personally use the computer/phone more than I will that chair.
Engraving isn't really an attraction for me. I be happy with just the Wyrmwood logo / makers mark on the table. However a coffee table would be great! I would definitely get one if it's offered as a part of the Kickstarter.
I'm very glad to see Wyrmwood growing, and working with (aquiring) a high quality, craftsman-centered company like Keystone. I'm an X'er, so have an Opinion on who appreciates heirloom furniture: everyone. We all want something nice. In the last 40 years it's increasingly harder to acquire when you're young due to changes in financial life. But also, people are more mobile. Fewer people live in one place more than 5 years; things have to be packable/portable. It can be cheaper to toss out a fiberboard coffee table than move it. Maybe this will bring back some willingness to hold on to bigger pieces.
I feel like the market is re-emerging in very modern ways. I for example have a Floyd bed frame. It's a fairly costly bed made with real wood but is modular, comparatively easy to move, etc. I probably wouldn't have bought it without those selling features.
The main difference I have between JV and Bobby's edits : sound levels. JV's sound level are great, I dont have to ripp off my headset from my head at the end to avoid destroying my ears because there is a full volume music right after a quiet conversation. If you could keep that all the time it would be so great :)
I would LOVE a coffee table! I just moved into/purchased a condo and that would be a solid addition to my living room! The thing for me, and this would make the table more expensive, is if the tabletop could be elevated up. I'm just throwing ideas of furniture I'd love to have :D
I second the elevated tabletop on the coffee table. Super useful as, like you said, many millennials don't using dining tables anymore. We're more likely to use a coffee table so having it raise up would be really nice.
That would be great idea! I don't have room for a permanent dining table but I could have a coffee table and then elevate it up. Just need to find some decent foldable chairs haha
This episode was great XD. Honestly im not a huge fan of the custom engraving idea, but mainly because it feels like something where, if I bought it with an engraving of my parties name, my name, or something cool sounding, 1-2 years down the road my opinion can change about it, and what was once great little detail, turns into "why did I decide to do this?" If I can make a counterpoint, because I'm not an expert on these things, i've always loved the elvish engravings, because they look cool and it can be your own little hidden message, but in general it doesn't matter what it says because it makes whatever it's engraved on look "mystical" or "mysterious," so it doesn't nessessarily matter what it's meant to say. What I'm trying to say here is if you decide to do custom engraving for the Kickstarter, give people the option to have the engraving in elvish, because at the end of the day it just makes shit look cool.
Since the boss of Keystone flies a plane, I initially thought he meant "Plane Community." Which is why it made sense to me. If a guy can afford a plane they can probably afford an expensive table.
Since the boss of Keystone flies a plane, I initially thought he meant "Plane Community." Which is why it made sense to me. If a guy can afford a plane they can probably afford an expensive table.
@@sarahsstitch2491 I'm one of the lucky ones where I am that I get to work at home and I didn't realize how questionable my desk set up is until I had to work at it for three months. Also I feel you on the desk more than the kitchen table.
I wouldn't mind 5 episodes a week as long as the quality and content don't tank because of it. I believe Wyrmwood has enough entertaining people and ideas to make it viable. But if there's absolutely nothing interesting happening then I wouldn't miss a few of the five every week.
While I absolutely love WyrmLyfe, i think I prefer the current system. It allows every person working on the videos to put a lot of high quality effort into every single episode. I also don't know how you would fill the episodes with content. While you've got a lot going on in the near future, I honestly don't believe there to be enough content to keep every episode as interesting as the current ones. You get bits and pieces from different discussions and different projects, as well as the WyrmLyfe goodness of the people interacting. I personally think that special episodes with stuff like the retail shop or the logistics company would be nice when those projects are done, but an episode every single work day seems excessive and I fear they might become void of interesting content. But that's just my opinion! Regardless on what you choose to do, I'm looking forward to more WyrmLyfe content :D
Most people pay payments to buy big ticket items like phones and computers. Most furniture is bought outright unless you buy from like rooms to go or Aaron’s
Yeah they think we pay full price for a phone, we sign contracts that charge us more than what the phone was worth in the first place, but in manageable payments. Not only that some of us cant even afford to buy dinner cause of all the bills and debt that we get signed up for before even leaving our parents homes. Not to mention most of us can't even leave said homes
Just remember Gen Z are the young ones now, I'm going to be 40 soon and I'm a millennial. I love the idea of the coffee table. I don't value custom engraving, I think that if it is offered it should be a premium and maybe you discount it during a kickstarter. I think some people do want some interesting designs on the side so you could look at a half way point by having interesting Wyrmwood siding options that could have 3 or four options that people could upgrade to some engraving without the full custom engraving at the higher tiers. I would propose from least to most expensive 1. Just the natural beauty of the wood, 2. Wyrmwood designs stock engraving (choice of 3-4 designs, more image based) 3. Custom engraving (offer English language, then stretch goals for dwarven, elvish translations)
It's not that we value hobbies over homes, it's that we can afford a hobby, we can't afford homes because of how Boomers drove the market beyond our grasp.
- coffee table, YES! - wargaming table, that's just a good size for a gaming table, - monolith table the 6x6 or 8x8 with the raising and lowering surface. I like the smooth lines, gang. I would say engraving options like scroll work or filigree style patterns would be something I'd be more interested in over a phrase. But, I'm not the target audience as I'm more inclined to try and make a table myself at this stage, than ship it to Oz.
Man I've never had so many thoughts about a Wyrm Lyfe episode! Firstly, I'd love five episodes a week but it's too much for the amount of media crew (though three would be lovely). Secondly, I think everyone involved in the millennial discussion (except maybe Kelli) doesn't understand our demographic very well. Doug, with all due respect man, we don't own expensive phones and computers because we chose those over nice furniture. Modern life necessitates those purchases simply to live and to work in modern society. If our grandparents lived and worked today they would also purchase a computer before a table simply out of modern necessity. But also we don't own homes at nearly the same rate, so every time we move we have to move a large, expensive, and clunky object. The thought of trying to disassemble, move, and protect a prophecy table has been the second biggest deterrent to buying one after the initial cost (third being floor space). I get what y'all are trying to say and, to a minor degree, it's not wrong, but at the same time you're missing the bigger understanding of the millennial lifestyle. Love your company and everything you are doing, just saying, I think you wildly missed the mark on millennials.
Woo! Another awesome episode JV! I would like to make a suggestion as to what Doug said about his goal for Wyrmlyfe (I have 0 XP in this field so please assume I am talking out of my behind for a moment, gonna also try to keep it G-rated for any Keystone folks reading this. Hi!) I personally, while I would love five episodes per week, think the golden number is three 15-20 minute episodes a week IF possible. Since you guys all have a lot of projects and goals flying around in the air right now I would think that having one episode being with Wyrmwood PA and another one being at Wyrmwood Mass., the third could be about the other projects going on. Or even the random conversations and clips that wouldn’t normally fit in a Wyrmlyfe episode. Maybe another debate on how read percentile dice?
1. I love seeing how much work these folks put into making these products. Johnny and Jason trying over and over again is inspiring to me. 2. Engraving would be boss. 3. As much as I love Wyrmlife, I would not want to see the quality change by trying to shoehorn in more eps. You guys do awesome work. keep it up.
Are you also testing to see how well it resembles if it's taken apart, moved, and rebuilt? Or is the idea that when you move you'll be taking it as 1 large piece? Also, yes to the engraving on the table.
It’s really cool to be getting info on the company structure laid out. I love how informative the Wyrmlife videos are. (Also, if the retail division needs a remote worker to help list products online, I’d LOVE to be doing that. [It’s what I was doing before the pandemic got me laid off. Lol])
The walkthrough of the merger was very interesting and appreciated. That said, between this episode and the previous one, I'm beginning to think there's still a disconnect between Wyrmwood management and their customer base/audience. It's not about value, it's about priorities. I highly value good quality furniture, but furniture (no matter what the quality) isn't going to A) keep me connected with my friends and family around the country or world and B) help me maintain my income by keeping me connected to my business. Unfortunately, due to income levels, debt levels, and many other factors, it isn't a question of "iPhone or table". It's a question of "table or one month's rent" or "table or 3 months car payment", or "table or the vacation I've been saving up for for 5 years to be able to afford". Those are the decisions we have to make. It feels like you're belittling those choices when you try to shame people for owning a phone or pc versus dining furniture. I'm not trying to complain about Wyrmwood. I love your inclusivity and your products. I just wanted to try to shine a light on how your comments and statements are being perceived.
A good piece of furniture may last you a decade or two. How long does a phone last you or a computer last you before you have to replace it. So in the lifetime of the furniture you would have spent quadruple the amount on phone/laptop/computers. Where as you pay hopefully one time for decent furniture that last lasts you a very long time.
I don't think making the observation that people prioritize other things (phone, laptop, vacations) is an any way negative judgment or "belittling." It's just saying that the needs and aspirations of this generation have changed, and that businesses need to adapt to fit them. Obviously, Wyrmwood thinks millennials value high-quality furniture enough, or else they wouldn't be making more cost-accessible gaming tables and coffee tables. It's just that things like heirloom-quality chairs, no matter how desirable, are lower on the list.
They weren't trying to shame anyone, they were just pointing out a change in the market based on generational buying. There's no reason to take it as a personal attack.
I wouldn't mind having a daily vlog to watch, HOWEVER, that requires a lot of content and I feel like it could be detrimental to the overall entertainment value of Wyrmlife. Keep it cool - once or twice a week is more than enough.
a phone is a tool, not an accessory. you should be able to use it for more than 4 years without needing to replace it. you don't need to always upgrade to the latest model.
Would keystone support the Trevor Project? I don’t want to assume good or bad about them but where my money goes is important. My questions come down to who does Keystone support? How do they feel about the LGBTQ+ community? How do they feel about BLM? Are they pro life or pro choice? How do they feel about birth control? Who do they support monetarily? Who does their church support? Wyrmwood has shown ideals that ally with the LGBTQ+ community. I am a major advocate for all of your kickstarters, your merch, and we have been saving for a table. I do this because I believed your ideals aligned with mine. Your products are impeccable. I’m sure keystone is the same. That is not what I am worried about here. I want to know their values.
When considering wyrmlyfe 5x a week, I think 3 vlogs of the current style and 2 production stylized videos would be nice. That coffee table was so cute! It’s a great kids dining table too FYI... especially with tiny chairs....
I really respect the way Wyrmwood operates and how much you share with us viewers/customers. Also, YES I would 100% watch Wyrmwood videos (whatever they may be) 5 days a week.
It’s so great and exciting watching the evolution of Wyrmwood. Doug seems like a really great CEO, it’s a super rare combination to be business savvy, visionary and a humble leader.
I’m glad you guys keep us updated on how your company is evolving and all the goals you have for the future. I hope that you manage to reach all of them. Especially more weekly Wyrm life episodes. 5 might be a bit crazy, but I’m sure no one would say no to 3.
The more I watch Wyrm Lyfe, the more I learn about carpentry and the furniture industry. I don't know when this knowledge will be important but I'm certainly enjoying it!
Super stoked for the future of your company! Very excited for all of the plans and expansions. There are great plans in place and I can’t wait to see where you guys take this company. Five videos a week sounds great, Wrymlyfe is my #1 UA-cam video I look forward to. I would rather have less videos with better/more content than flood my feed with videos that aren’t true to what I know Wrymlyfe to be. Keep up the amazing work!
These videos talking about process and this potential acquisition have been fascinating to watch. The discussion about shifting “American Dream” was an interesting bit. I offer this; millennials want value-added things. Wyrmwood’s beautiful tables serve multiple purposes. It’s a table that’s a showroom piece, a gaming surface, a storage space. The ability to have multi purpose furniture I think is why I have been so attracted to this low cost concept. It’s something that I could potentially afford that isn’t just a table. It’s a table that can be configured to be a nice centerpiece of furniture in a room with company over. However it also acts as storage, and a platform to play all sorts of games on. That value of multi purpose use is why I’m so eager to see what you guys have in store. That and all the little QOL addons.
So in on the coffee table though id skip the engraving. However stackable stools for our tiny millennial appartments would be an amazing stretch goal. Also you might want to check the difference between "appreciate" and "prioritize". ;)
I think 3 episodes of Wyrmlyfe a week would be Ideal. Monday, Wednesday and Friday. That’s a good amount of episodes without it feeling like you need something massive everyday
Honestly, I would be more inclined to buy a Wyrmwood coffee table than a dining table. I'm a millennial/zoomer and BOY HOWDY am I going to be using a table more for games and coffee rather than for a fancy dinner... :P
I have just recently started playing games like d&d and stumbled onto this channel. I just wish you guys the best of luck on everything you do as you guys show so much passion for what you do and always have your consumer always in mind. I hope more companies where like you guys
I would love some Skyrim esque Draconic runes, or different D&D party names, or... well there are a LOT of things I would love engraved on a gaming table. +1 for having discounted engravings as a stretch goal (coffee table and war gaming table are also awesome)
If they offer a coffee table, we would totally think about buying that and if we could add on some stools/ottomans that would nest underneath that you could pull out for extra seats, footrests during coffee table mode, and maybe additional storage for games. and we could get in matching wood, that would be AMAZING!
I love Wyrmlife but I definitely think it’s better at 1 or 2 episodes a week! It allows Bobby and JV to add a bit more of a story to the episodes rather than just being a straight up vlog.
Great vid, definitely see the Wyrmwood Keystone thing being an awesome boon to all involved. Looking forward to FIVE episodes of Wyrmlife a week. Super awesome stuff folks!
Out of curiosity (and honestly wanting to score some of the quality wood) what happens to the wood from the prototypes or mess ups from the production process? I remember watching a video where you threw away a ton of product due to manufacturing errors. As someone who likes to reuse what may just be trash to another person, where does that wood go? Love the videos and the products you all put out. Keep up the great work.
Giant fan of what Wyrmwood is doing and the jobs and ethics they are providing Thank you Wyrmwood for your efforts. also 5 Wyrmlyfe's a week would be awesome
1. I think gem inlays or resin filled engravings have the potential to be awesome and should be considered. 2. I personally wouldn’t want an engraving or inlay. It’s a big commitment to put something on a piece of furniture that you’re going to keep forever/pass down to your kids. I understand that some people might want it, but as a wood worker, I wouldn’t spend extra money on it.
What I love about woodworking, and watching your videos, is the escapism and creation from nothing. It gives a brief pause in time where you can take pride in creating something when your life is falling down around you. Others may see it as a waste of time, but even planning something can make the shadows disappear for awhile. Keep up the great work Wyrmwood and Keystone.
Thank you for the villain monologue explaining the grand plan. It sounds like Keystone is being absorbed into Wyrmword, not "merged". I love the breakdown of the different divisions both new and old. Great to see satellites and subsidiaries being established.
Thanks for providing that breakdown about the structure and the solution to the gap. I'm super excited about the coffee table stretch goal because that is what I had originally chosen for the WR table. I hope the coffee table legs can be an option for the full-size table!
Millennial here, they hit on a key point: buying power. We flat out cannot afford heirloom furniture because of all the costs of living we are dealing with. And we especially cannot afford a single purpose item like furniture which is going to be in our apartments (because we have long ago given up on owning homes) that we're never in because we all work way too much.
problem is that wouldn't really be viable due to the real world not being minecraft, and trees not growing that quickly. They could however buy patches of forested land if they really wanted to, but that doesn't actually make much since unless they deforest that section for both product AND a new location afterwards
$700 for my personal PC, I also Love the idea of a 'budget friendly' coffee table. Also, Major Kudos to Keystone fro helping with shipping. LOVE the JPO coffee table. It's thee perfect size for millennials.
As far as ingravings go, its a maybe. like, for an heirloom quality table, having a name or names on there its just gonna get lost in a couple of generations. if it was engravings of say, filigrees and/or nice ordamental designs, then yeah sure, all for it!
I think instead of engravings at $3 million I'd prefer package deals on add-ons for the tables? Stuff like built in DM screens, spell slot trackers, mtg library and graveyard holders, dice trays or holders, cup holders/coasters, things that can be attached to the outside of the table to conserve table space. I'm really looking forward to this Kickstarter!:)
I really like how Doug explained houses vs. hobbies in terms of how the market has changed (would love to see more discussions like this in the future!). My partner and I would honestly not buy a regular dining table but the Wyrmwood tables are so gosh darn beautiful and functional for our gaming lifestyle. In the suite we rent, we're lucky enough to have a dining space but we only use it to play D&D. Plus the new kickstarter is so exciting for us because we thought we would have to wait years to be able to save enough for a Prophecy table but this new Kickstarter looks like something we can afford to invest in right now! (We may be using some of our wedding savings for this new table but it will be so worth it to get rid of that Ikea table we're using now in place of a gorgeous Wyrmwood table!)
The mere possibility of a Wyrmwood manufactured Wargaming Table, 6 ft. x 4 ft. (or larger), makes me giddy with excitement and anticipation! I'd LOVE to have the motto, "Who Dares With Me?", in Gothic Script on it. WOW!
Man, it's so cool to see the company growing in leaps and bounds! Can't wait to see what the future has in store. And as much as I would love to watch Wyrmlife every day, having it once or twice a week really just makes it much more special and exciting to watch.
Could this furniture have optional modular components just like all the gaming furniture? Then a Wyrmwood Home portfolio would be totally backward compatible with all other Wyrmwood products. This could also simplify development because everything is simple, scalable, and modular. This could even open the door for open source furniture component development from independent craftspeople. (effectively managing furniture development like software development)
Ok, speaking as a Gen-Xer, who bought an Amish bed, dresser, chest-of-drawers and nightstands; I still have enough hand-me-down-value to say that being able to engrave the family name in it would be neat. We thought about leaving the tags from the manufacturer on our bed, so when our kids/grand-kids get it, they'll have a little piece of history as the quarter-sawn oak gets handed down. As a Gen-Xer, we're stuck in the middle; understanding the value of quality furniture, as well as the $1k+ phone/computer. We want to have some 'nice' things, but also have some experiences as well. And since our retirement has been sunk several times with the economy now, we'll be working forever anyway. :-/
Massive respect for both companies being amazing examples of having the stance "we hire craftsmen" and not worrying about anything else.
Read Keystones about us page to see that there is a lot more they care about...
@@tighejs Haha yes of course both care about more, otherwise they'd even hire murders as long as they are good woodworkers :). Statement was meant as a fundamental ideal that is really awesome to see in action.
Also could we get a glass table top as a stretch goal? I know that’s a real stretch. you guys ever thought about it?
@@stephenwright2502 imagine shipping glass table? Would need that white glove delivery for that for sure.
Evila7 Diverse doesn’t equal good. Hire people based on skill and merits, not sex or skin tone.
"I don't have a wallet." those are the words of a man that knew about the swear jar before this visit.
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I think quality over quantity in terms of Wyrmlife.
Agreed. Also, I'm not sure there's enough content for 5 Wyrmlifes a week. I feel like we get a fairly good highlight reel for the week, and anything more would just be too much. XD
@@Celicam The "merger" could provide more content but I think even 3 a week is pushing it.
Im Happy with 2 a week, 3 a week would be a treat, 5 would be almost an overload I feel.
2-3 a week is more than enough. Don’t push yourself. You could end up trying to “create” content moments and that never ends well
I will say, if you guys find some cool ideas to explore, you could come up with some entertaining episodes that fill 5 days a week, but they will be alot different then the current update focused episodes.
I advise if you increase the numbers keeping the company news clearly labelled either to one of the weekly episodes or at the beginning of each episode so people that don't have the time for super regular viewing can know where to get the news, rather then have to sort through the fun and entertaining fluff.
You’re telling me Doug’s wallet wasn’t duct taped to him?
Hahaha 😂 Surprisingly it wasn't
or made of duct tape?
@@fpsfreak79 My wallet is definitely made from duct tape, and it's lasted over a year now!
First he lost his belt and knife, and now his wallet?
The issue of the millennial discussion is saying they don’t VALUE heirloom furniture. If you said they don’t PRIORITIZE heirloom furniture then you’d be mostly correct. I’d love to have high quality furniture, but with limited funds I have to prioritize the things I’m using 8-12 hours a day vs once a week.
100% this!
I would LOVE to have sturdy heirloom furniture. But I need to prioritize what I use EVERY DAY. I use my phone countless times a day, I use my computer multiple times a day. I sit in a chair in my apartment...once a week? If I'm not working then I'm either sleeping or decompressing by playing a game. Unfortunately, my apartment is not where I play tabletop games (unless it's online, but I have a nice office chair that I spent good money on for that). I play tabletop games at a boardgame cafe or at my singular friend who has space for a dining room table and chairs.
Exactly! And, like, even the things I use on the regular I have to seek out the cheapest options. Getting clothes from goodwill, scavenging for coupons to get maybe 20% off at a retail store, even going to Habitat ReStore for the vast majority of my furniture. I don't have the privilege of money to support businesses like these just in general
Thank you for putting this into words that aren’t just frustration at them. My phone or computer are tools I use for work for communication and are basically necessities. I feel like they don’t sit in the same category as something like choices of furniture or clothing brands. Like if I had a 1000$ Gucci bag on making that argument hell yeah your right but today you can get a 900$ phone for 30$ a month. You aren’t required to upfront that anymore like you would with a piece of furniture.
There's nothing special about financing a phone that doesn't apply to financing other purchases. If you're on the iPhone upgrade program you're paying interest to Citizen's Bank at rates similar to most credit cards. You could put furniture on a credit card, or take out a personal loan if a fixed monthly payment is also acceptable. I'm not saying you should go finance a table - just that it's really not any different in practice than financing a phone.
Also like I can fit a phone into my tiny apartment. I cannot fit a dining table. I would love a dining table, I would probably prioritise and finance one but I can't afford a place to live that's big enough to fit a dining table.
I'd have “Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. -G.K. Chesterton" engraved on my table.
Make sure the DM sits at the "Dragon's can be killed" side of the table. No need giving the party hints...
you got some solid engraving ideas, and let people do custom, there are going to be some sick ideas.
@@kongesnok is that what you're getting engraved on your table?
"Imagination dines here" Would probably be my engrave.
That's one of my favourite quotes! FYI though, it's not GK Chesterton, but Neil Gaiman misquoting GK Chesterton.
I think we need more Frank. it is about time for us to see Frank. . he could help Doug find his wallet for the swear jar!
You're so right! Where the heck has Frank been?!
Surely a lawyer is needed for a merger.
Better yet, can we have a section of Frank going over the legalities of a swear jar?
@@DeeDust I would watch the hell out of that.
Wyrmwood has quality accessories. Don't make Wyrmlife into a quantity over quality. 1 Wyrmlife a day would mean that there wouldn't be enough stuff actually happening to have a good episode
I feel like if they were to do like 5 episodes per week it should be like divided into woodshop, management, retail, furniture, etc. Just so it's not the same people over and over
I actually prefer it the way it is now with the current amount of episodes. One of the few regular shows I watch all the time. I feel like even one or two more a week would make me feel oversaturated and would stop me from coming here as constant as I do now.
Agreed. Once a week is more than enough.
Given these expansions, it would probably focus on entirely different aspects for each episode. Not all would be the main crew we know so well
I'm of the same opinion. At most 3 a week. Though I feel like 2 a week is already the perfect amount.
Wyrmwood + Keystone = "WyrmKey"
I almost went with Wyrmstone, but that is what they should name their dice division.
What about Keywood?
Eri Nagai crazy Ed here. I suggest wyrmstone
lets be honest, I love wrymlife but I'd love to see 3 good wyrmlives a week rather than 5 short or lower-quality ones (plus maybe some fun extras??)
another bsrrier to heirloom furniture is not having a settled home on a ground floor. If your renting or live in an apartment, then your purchase consideration also includes how much space it takes up and how hard it would be to move or carry up and down stairs in a move.
But these new products they are making are shipped disassembled and you put them together. So that means when you move you can just take it apart again.
Look at 40's built furniture smaller scale I've got a 50's danish modern dining set that I can pickup by myself.
Every time you move a piece of furniture there's a chance you'll drop it or bump it. And if you're assembling and dismantling furniture every 6 months because you've gotta move again stuff wears out.
That's actually a good point, I happen to own a few pieces of furniture that were passed down from grandparents and they've all suffered a little bit in moves despite taking care.
@@Fsudrydenop is still right. I'll 100% avoid buying something because of how hard it is to move. It doesn't matter if you can take it apart. That means I have to take it apart and move it. Still a problem lol
I'm very glad wyrmlife is covering this new company team up. Its a good learning experience and behind the scenes look. I will say this side of wyrmlife is a bit more sour toned then the Massachusetts side but that makes sense given the stakes,crunch,and new personalities and work culture. I wish you all the best of luck and hope to see this become more positive as good news keeps happening!
(Also offer LED engravings as a stretch goal like the dwarven hex table :D)
I second the LED idea.
3:38 Yes, i have a computer, but not cause i was like "i want one for the funsies", it's because i need one to work, i need one for school, it's out of neccesity. I don't need a heriloom furniture, that's a want thing, and i won't want one unless i have the excess money for it. Boomers valued legacy, houses, cars, furnitures, things they can leave for their kids when they grew up, Milennials don't 'cause the world is a shit show. Most of us don't have the idea of having kids until waaay later if at all.
We don't have the money for legacy and make future lives more comfortable, we barely have the money to make our own lives comfortable with a "slight sense" of luxury.
This. I understand the frustration but the problem is the economy not the consumer.
But let's be honest-- technology is cheaper now to fabricate than it's ever been, yet the costs keep rising. $1200 for a phone is absolutely ridiculous!
@@hemming-ways I never understood people who actually pay over about $500 for a new phone. I got mine for under $100 (before tax) at a Target, and it's served me fine.
@@leakingamps2050 Becaus the phone is instead of a laptop. 2in1.
@@hemming-ways - $1200 is the price of _the latest version_ of the most expensive phone. The price isn't really going up on equivalent models, you can buy an iPhone 6 for a fraction of the cost of the next version when it comes out.
I mean if we are going to compare a chair to a computer/smartphone, the latter serves so many more needs that spending money on them is more easily justified. You could argue that a smart phone is nearly required to participate in large swaths of modern society.
I think it's more "Do you buy a flagship $1000 phone and some cheap ikea furniture" or "Do you buy a cheap sub-$200 Android and some fancy heirloom furniture"
What do you value more? I know what I value more. The phone with the nice, hi-res crisp screen, that's fast af and has a battery that lasts all day and can be wirelessly charged to 80% in half an hour.
If you'd ask a Boomer, they'd go with the cheap phone and value the furniture far more.
Both the cheap and expensive phone have the same capabilities. Twitter, UA-cam, Facebook, Banking, Browsing. They can all do it. Both the cheap Ikea and fancy heirloom furniture have the same capabilities.
Where do you want to spend more money?
For us, answer's probably gonna be the phone. Or a fast, thin, sleek computer. We could do all the same stuff on a cheap Acer, but it's not as pleasant. Same as sitting on cheap Ikea furniture isn't as pleasant as sitting on a Chesterfield. But both will cup your ass fine.
@@FortesqueDaniel you've made an assumption that everyone who doesn't buy expensive furniture buys expensive phones instead...there's a large group of people that can't afford either. And if I've saved up enough money I'm going to invest more in the thing I actually need. Getting a cheap phone and an expensive heirloom table doesn't make sense (and is kindof irresponsible) if the thing I need is the phone. Just sayin
Yeah there's definitely no comparison imo. Like, nice furniture is nice, but most millennials have NO ability to afford that.
@@FortesqueDaniel The thing is a nice heirloom quality dining set costs 5k to 8k and then your home style better not change. A computer costs 2k on the high end, and style changes have minimal impact. Smart phones, even if you bought a new one every 2 or 3 years, up until recently it was $600 per phone. I've spent 2k on TVs or couches because I do values those more than dining room furniture though. So I think that's a better example. But heirloom quality dining sets cost 2 to 3 times more than a couch or TV or a computer.
I definitely want the coffee table. Engravings I could live without.
I want to get engravings added so I can get.... “Does anyone really even want that?” -Jason MacDonald engraved.
I'm really excited about this partnership and I really appreciate all of this insight to the merger. I'm a millennial but I really like good furniture that's affordable (I also live in a major city so life be expensive) so I'm super hopeful to buy some of these products eventually! I just really love this company and the people in it. I guess I appreciate the people and product more because of wyrmlife so thanks for this you guys, you're doing an amazing job
That's great to hear my fellow millennial! Thank you for the kind words 😄❤️ We hope to keep the cost on these tables super low (and it's looking like we might actually come in under $750 🤞)
Thank you 🙌 Glad you enjoyed the episode!
Same. I'm a millennial who dreams of owning a Wyrmwood table one day, but right now I'm just not in a stable enough place to invest right now, not only in terms of money but also in terms of living space. So for now I'll settle for dice vaults and towers, and continue to build my dream table in my head haha.
Jason (having a salaried job position where he can afford a phone, an heirloom quality table, food, a house, and gaming accessories)
holds up phone: people are spending the same amount on this that they could spend on furniture!
me (pre-COVID working 3-6 jobs and barely scraping by): no Jason, i NEED a phone for work, like communication in case of shift coverage, call outs, emails, ext. i don't need a table. i WANT a table. sure i can capture "experiences" from my phone, but that's not why i got it.
when i can get a Wyrmwood table for $40, i'm sold....but until then, you can't compare the 2.
The difference between dropping $1200 on a chair vs $1200 on a computer. @Wyrmwood
1. A computer serves more needs than a Chair. A chair is used for sitting at a table. A computer serves Email, work, class, Entertainment, and Communication.
2. At the end of the day how often are you sitting in said chair vs using technology.
3. Justifying costs for technology is easier when you need it vs a Chair you don't technically need.
All in all I'm more likely to drop the money for technology than the Chair due to it's uses. I will personally use the computer/phone more than I will that chair.
Engraving isn't really an attraction for me. I be happy with just the Wyrmwood logo / makers mark on the table. However a coffee table would be great! I would definitely get one if it's offered as a part of the Kickstarter.
I second this!
Absolutely!
Don't need engraving but love coffee table idea. I would be on board for that.
I'm very glad to see Wyrmwood growing, and working with (aquiring) a high quality, craftsman-centered company like Keystone. I'm an X'er, so have an Opinion on who appreciates heirloom furniture: everyone. We all want something nice. In the last 40 years it's increasingly harder to acquire when you're young due to changes in financial life. But also, people are more mobile. Fewer people live in one place more than 5 years; things have to be packable/portable. It can be cheaper to toss out a fiberboard coffee table than move it. Maybe this will bring back some willingness to hold on to bigger pieces.
I feel like the market is re-emerging in very modern ways. I for example have a Floyd bed frame. It's a fairly costly bed made with real wood but is modular, comparatively easy to move, etc. I probably wouldn't have bought it without those selling features.
The main difference I have between JV and Bobby's edits : sound levels.
JV's sound level are great, I dont have to ripp off my headset from my head at the end to avoid destroying my ears because there is a full volume music right after a quiet conversation.
If you could keep that all the time it would be so great :)
I would LOVE a coffee table! I just moved into/purchased a condo and that would be a solid addition to my living room! The thing for me, and this would make the table more expensive, is if the tabletop could be elevated up. I'm just throwing ideas of furniture I'd love to have :D
I second the elevated tabletop on the coffee table. Super useful as, like you said, many millennials don't using dining tables anymore. We're more likely to use a coffee table so having it raise up would be really nice.
That would be great idea! I don't have room for a permanent dining table but I could have a coffee table and then elevate it up. Just need to find some decent foldable chairs haha
Elevated!
It would be cool for the coffee table to have a storage drawer as well.
This episode was great XD. Honestly im not a huge fan of the custom engraving idea, but mainly because it feels like something where, if I bought it with an engraving of my parties name, my name, or something cool sounding, 1-2 years down the road my opinion can change about it, and what was once great little detail, turns into "why did I decide to do this?"
If I can make a counterpoint, because I'm not an expert on these things, i've always loved the elvish engravings, because they look cool and it can be your own little hidden message, but in general it doesn't matter what it says because it makes whatever it's engraved on look "mystical" or "mysterious," so it doesn't nessessarily matter what it's meant to say.
What I'm trying to say here is if you decide to do custom engraving for the Kickstarter, give people the option to have the engraving in elvish, because at the end of the day it just makes shit look cool.
Blake Campanella I think that the engraving is like a tattoo, where you have to be sure to get it
That is a really great idea!
Never knew of the term “Plain” or the “Plain community”, so I ended up googling it. The things you learn through WyrmLyfe.
Since the boss of Keystone flies a plane, I initially thought he meant "Plane Community." Which is why it made sense to me. If a guy can afford a plane they can probably afford an expensive table.
Since the boss of Keystone flies a plane, I initially thought he meant "Plane Community." Which is why it made sense to me. If a guy can afford a plane they can probably afford an expensive table.
What I would do for a wyrmwood desk,,,,,,
That insight into the merger is cool tho I'm really excited to see how it changes and improves the company!
I'm staring at my desk that is kind of falling apart and agree... a Wyrmwood desk.
I would love a Wyrmwood desk!
@@shadowgirl00 and honestly I use my desk more than my kitchen table
@@sarahsstitch2491 I'm one of the lucky ones where I am that I get to work at home and I didn't realize how questionable my desk set up is until I had to work at it for three months. Also I feel you on the desk more than the kitchen table.
I wouldn't mind 5 episodes a week as long as the quality and content don't tank because of it. I believe Wyrmwood has enough entertaining people and ideas to make it viable. But if there's absolutely nothing interesting happening then I wouldn't miss a few of the five every week.
Xers: "STOP TALKING ABOUT US AND WE'LL BUY MORE STUFF TO SHUT YOU UP."
😁 Leave us in peace so we can shop for quality wood products.
While I absolutely love WyrmLyfe, i think I prefer the current system. It allows every person working on the videos to put a lot of high quality effort into every single episode. I also don't know how you would fill the episodes with content. While you've got a lot going on in the near future, I honestly don't believe there to be enough content to keep every episode as interesting as the current ones. You get bits and pieces from different discussions and different projects, as well as the WyrmLyfe goodness of the people interacting.
I personally think that special episodes with stuff like the retail shop or the logistics company would be nice when those projects are done, but an episode every single work day seems excessive and I fear they might become void of interesting content.
But that's just my opinion! Regardless on what you choose to do, I'm looking forward to more WyrmLyfe content :D
Most people pay payments to buy big ticket items like phones and computers. Most furniture is bought outright unless you buy from like rooms to go or Aaron’s
Yeah they think we pay full price for a phone, we sign contracts that charge us more than what the phone was worth in the first place, but in manageable payments. Not only that some of us cant even afford to buy dinner cause of all the bills and debt that we get signed up for before even leaving our parents homes. Not to mention most of us can't even leave said homes
Oh they actually remember gen x
Just remember Gen Z are the young ones now, I'm going to be 40 soon and I'm a millennial. I love the idea of the coffee table. I don't value custom engraving, I think that if it is offered it should be a premium and maybe you discount it during a kickstarter. I think some people do want some interesting designs on the side so you could look at a half way point by having interesting Wyrmwood siding options that could have 3 or four options that people could upgrade to some engraving without the full custom engraving at the higher tiers. I would propose from least to most expensive 1. Just the natural beauty of the wood, 2. Wyrmwood designs stock engraving (choice of 3-4 designs, more image based) 3. Custom engraving (offer English language, then stretch goals for dwarven, elvish translations)
Gen X: We have game rooms AND Dining rooms in our houses. :P
We do.... the eat-in game space 😊
@@HLBear what do you call it if you also use the same room for sleeping?
@@leakingamps2050 "sad"
It's not that we value hobbies over homes, it's that we can afford a hobby, we can't afford homes because of how Boomers drove the market beyond our grasp.
- coffee table, YES!
- wargaming table, that's just a good size for a gaming table,
- monolith table the 6x6 or 8x8 with the raising and lowering surface.
I like the smooth lines, gang. I would say engraving options like scroll work or filigree style patterns would be something I'd be more interested in over a phrase.
But, I'm not the target audience as I'm more inclined to try and make a table myself at this stage, than ship it to Oz.
Man I've never had so many thoughts about a Wyrm Lyfe episode! Firstly, I'd love five episodes a week but it's too much for the amount of media crew (though three would be lovely). Secondly, I think everyone involved in the millennial discussion (except maybe Kelli) doesn't understand our demographic very well. Doug, with all due respect man, we don't own expensive phones and computers because we chose those over nice furniture. Modern life necessitates those purchases simply to live and to work in modern society. If our grandparents lived and worked today they would also purchase a computer before a table simply out of modern necessity. But also we don't own homes at nearly the same rate, so every time we move we have to move a large, expensive, and clunky object. The thought of trying to disassemble, move, and protect a prophecy table has been the second biggest deterrent to buying one after the initial cost (third being floor space). I get what y'all are trying to say and, to a minor degree, it's not wrong, but at the same time you're missing the bigger understanding of the millennial lifestyle. Love your company and everything you are doing, just saying, I think you wildly missed the mark on millennials.
Woo! Another awesome episode JV!
I would like to make a suggestion as to what Doug said about his goal for Wyrmlyfe (I have 0 XP in this field so please assume I am talking out of my behind for a moment, gonna also try to keep it G-rated for any Keystone folks reading this. Hi!)
I personally, while I would love five episodes per week, think the golden number is three 15-20 minute episodes a week IF possible. Since you guys all have a lot of projects and goals flying around in the air right now I would think that having one episode being with Wyrmwood PA and another one being at Wyrmwood Mass., the third could be about the other projects going on. Or even the random conversations and clips that wouldn’t normally fit in a Wyrmlyfe episode. Maybe another debate on how read percentile dice?
1. I love seeing how much work these folks put into making these products. Johnny and Jason trying over and over again is inspiring to me.
2. Engraving would be boss.
3. As much as I love Wyrmlife, I would not want to see the quality change by trying to shoehorn in more eps. You guys do awesome work. keep it up.
Are you also testing to see how well it resembles if it's taken apart, moved, and rebuilt? Or is the idea that when you move you'll be taking it as 1 large piece?
Also, yes to the engraving on the table.
It’s really cool to be getting info on the company structure laid out. I love how informative the Wyrmlife videos are. (Also, if the retail division needs a remote worker to help list products online, I’d LOVE to be doing that. [It’s what I was doing before the pandemic got me laid off. Lol])
The walkthrough of the merger was very interesting and appreciated. That said, between this episode and the previous one, I'm beginning to think there's still a disconnect between Wyrmwood management and their customer base/audience. It's not about value, it's about priorities. I highly value good quality furniture, but furniture (no matter what the quality) isn't going to A) keep me connected with my friends and family around the country or world and B) help me maintain my income by keeping me connected to my business. Unfortunately, due to income levels, debt levels, and many other factors, it isn't a question of "iPhone or table". It's a question of "table or one month's rent" or "table or 3 months car payment", or "table or the vacation I've been saving up for for 5 years to be able to afford". Those are the decisions we have to make. It feels like you're belittling those choices when you try to shame people for owning a phone or pc versus dining furniture. I'm not trying to complain about Wyrmwood. I love your inclusivity and your products. I just wanted to try to shine a light on how your comments and statements are being perceived.
A good piece of furniture may last you a decade or two. How long does a phone last you or a computer last you before you have to replace it. So in the lifetime of the furniture you would have spent quadruple the amount on phone/laptop/computers. Where as you pay hopefully one time for decent furniture that last lasts you a very long time.
I don't think making the observation that people prioritize other things (phone, laptop, vacations) is an any way negative judgment or "belittling." It's just saying that the needs and aspirations of this generation have changed, and that businesses need to adapt to fit them. Obviously, Wyrmwood thinks millennials value high-quality furniture enough, or else they wouldn't be making more cost-accessible gaming tables and coffee tables. It's just that things like heirloom-quality chairs, no matter how desirable, are lower on the list.
They weren't trying to shame anyone, they were just pointing out a change in the market based on generational buying. There's no reason to take it as a personal attack.
I wouldn't mind having a daily vlog to watch, HOWEVER, that requires a lot of content and I feel like it could be detrimental to the overall entertainment value of Wyrmlife. Keep it cool - once or twice a week is more than enough.
a phone is a tool, not an accessory. you should be able to use it for more than 4 years without needing to replace it. you don't need to always upgrade to the latest model.
Would keystone support the Trevor
Project?
I don’t want to assume good or bad about them but where my money goes is important.
My questions come down to who does Keystone support? How do they feel about the LGBTQ+ community? How do they feel about BLM? Are they pro life or pro choice? How do they feel about birth control? Who do they support monetarily? Who does their church support?
Wyrmwood has shown ideals that ally with the LGBTQ+ community. I am a major advocate for all of your kickstarters, your merch, and we have been saving for a table. I do this because I believed your ideals aligned with mine. Your products are impeccable. I’m sure keystone is the same. That is not what I am worried about here. I want to know their values.
I really hope they answer at least some of these.
Also the income value for millennials compared to boomers when they where young, is very different. The device we are working on is needed for work
When considering wyrmlyfe 5x a week, I think 3 vlogs of the current style and 2 production stylized videos would be nice. That coffee table was so cute! It’s a great kids dining table too FYI... especially with tiny chairs....
ya'll, I'm still waiting for the DM screen kickstarter! Please please PLEEEEEASE!!
I really respect the way Wyrmwood operates and how much you share with us viewers/customers. Also, YES I would 100% watch Wyrmwood videos (whatever they may be) 5 days a week.
“Do they want that much wyrm life? Let’s be honest.” Yes yes I do 😁
It’s so great and exciting watching the evolution of Wyrmwood. Doug seems like a really great CEO, it’s a super rare combination to be business savvy, visionary and a humble leader.
I love how JV adds warmth to the wood transitions, with the music becomes *chef's kiss*
I’m glad you guys keep us updated on how your company is evolving and all the goals you have for the future. I hope that you manage to reach all of them. Especially more weekly Wyrm life episodes. 5 might be a bit crazy, but I’m sure no one would say no to 3.
Daily wyrmlife might burn out the channel with the youtube algorithm.
The more I watch Wyrm Lyfe, the more I learn about carpentry and the furniture industry. I don't know when this knowledge will be important but I'm certainly enjoying it!
Super stoked for the future of your company! Very excited for all of the plans and expansions. There are great plans in place and I can’t wait to see where you guys take this company.
Five videos a week sounds great, Wrymlyfe is my #1 UA-cam video I look forward to. I would rather have less videos with better/more content than flood my feed with videos that aren’t true to what I know Wrymlyfe to be. Keep up the amazing work!
These videos talking about process and this potential acquisition have been fascinating to watch. The discussion about shifting “American Dream” was an interesting bit. I offer this; millennials want value-added things. Wyrmwood’s beautiful tables serve multiple purposes. It’s a table that’s a showroom piece, a gaming surface, a storage space. The ability to have multi purpose furniture I think is why I have been so attracted to this low cost concept. It’s something that I could potentially afford that isn’t just a table. It’s a table that can be configured to be a nice centerpiece of furniture in a room with company over. However it also acts as storage, and a platform to play all sorts of games on. That value of multi purpose use is why I’m so eager to see what you guys have in store. That and all the little QOL addons.
If the content is there for 5 wyrmlife episodes every week then, by all means, go for it but quality over quantity.
So in on the coffee table though id skip the engraving. However stackable stools for our tiny millennial appartments would be an amazing stretch goal.
Also you might want to check the difference between "appreciate" and "prioritize". ;)
A computer does something useful. I can eat on the floor the same way I can eat at a table.
These days computers are a necessity, some of us still cant afford one nor have space for one, yet we're blamed for not buying heirloom furniture☠
Dang, I really appreciate hearing you guys talk about your "Master Plan". I'm so excited to see this company grow!
This is exciting, seeing the natural growth of a company that makes quality products and how they adapt to match their growth. I love it
I think 3 episodes of Wyrmlyfe a week would be Ideal. Monday, Wednesday and Friday. That’s a good amount of episodes without it feeling like you need something massive everyday
Honestly, I would be more inclined to buy a Wyrmwood coffee table than a dining table. I'm a millennial/zoomer and BOY HOWDY am I going to be using a table more for games and coffee rather than for a fancy dinner... :P
I have just recently started playing games like d&d and stumbled onto this channel. I just wish you guys the best of luck on everything you do as you guys show so much passion for what you do and always have your consumer always in mind. I hope more companies where like you guys
Loving the Keystone guys. A solid group all round.
I would love some Skyrim esque Draconic runes, or different D&D party names, or... well there are a LOT of things I would love engraved on a gaming table. +1 for having discounted engravings as a stretch goal (coffee table and war gaming table are also awesome)
If they offer a coffee table, we would totally think about buying that and if we could add on some stools/ottomans that would nest underneath that you could pull out for extra seats, footrests during coffee table mode, and maybe additional storage for games. and we could get in matching wood, that would be AMAZING!
I love Wyrmlife but I definitely think it’s better at 1 or 2 episodes a week! It allows Bobby and JV to add a bit more of a story to the episodes rather than just being a straight up vlog.
Great vid, definitely see the Wyrmwood Keystone thing being an awesome boon to all involved. Looking forward to FIVE episodes of Wyrmlife a week. Super awesome stuff folks!
I love the values of this company. Thanks for all the information and transparency! Keep up the good work y'all!
I love how u considered our fans in explaining the process and your future goals. And OMG!!! I love the mini table!!!!!.
Out of curiosity (and honestly wanting to score some of the quality wood) what happens to the wood from the prototypes or mess ups from the production process? I remember watching a video where you threw away a ton of product due to manufacturing errors. As someone who likes to reuse what may just be trash to another person, where does that wood go? Love the videos and the products you all put out. Keep up the great work.
Giant fan of what Wyrmwood is doing and the jobs and ethics they are providing Thank you Wyrmwood for your efforts. also 5 Wyrmlyfe's a week would be awesome
1. I think gem inlays or resin filled engravings have the potential to be awesome and should be considered.
2. I personally wouldn’t want an engraving or inlay. It’s a big commitment to put something on a piece of furniture that you’re going to keep forever/pass down to your kids. I understand that some people might want it, but as a wood worker, I wouldn’t spend extra money on it.
What I love about woodworking, and watching your videos, is the escapism and creation from nothing. It gives a brief pause in time where you can take pride in creating something when your life is falling down around you. Others may see it as a waste of time, but even planning something can make the shadows disappear for awhile. Keep up the great work Wyrmwood and Keystone.
Thank you for the villain monologue explaining the grand plan. It sounds like Keystone is being absorbed into Wyrmword, not "merged". I love the breakdown of the different divisions both new and old. Great to see satellites and subsidiaries being established.
Yes we want a weekday wyrmlife schedule, but, ONLY if you guys keep up the amazing quality.
These Season 5 episodes have been awesome so far! Can't wait to see how the Wyrmwood and Keystone styles mix to create something even better.
Thanks for providing that breakdown about the structure and the solution to the gap. I'm super excited about the coffee table stretch goal because that is what I had originally chosen for the WR table. I hope the coffee table legs can be an option for the full-size table!
I'm not all that excited by the idea of engraving on the tables, though I am SUPER excited about this kickstarter. ;)
Wow, major respect to the guys from Keystone!!! They are being so gracious and humble in the face of some nasty comments and hard truths.
Love watching you guys grow and expand operations. Been watching for a while but still don't own a Wyrmwood product - one day. I aspire to own them!
Millennial here, they hit on a key point: buying power. We flat out cannot afford heirloom furniture because of all the costs of living we are dealing with. And we especially cannot afford a single purpose item like furniture which is going to be in our apartments (because we have long ago given up on owning homes) that we're never in because we all work way too much.
The next thing you need to have is a tree farm and be able to source the wood even cheaper. Wyrm Farm
problem is that wouldn't really be viable due to the real world not being minecraft, and trees not growing that quickly. They could however buy patches of forested land if they really wanted to, but that doesn't actually make much since unless they deforest that section for both product AND a new location afterwards
Andrew Carnegie up in this house.. own the entire supply chain from Tree to Home.
$700 for my personal PC, I also Love the idea of a 'budget friendly' coffee table.
Also, Major Kudos to Keystone fro helping with shipping.
LOVE the JPO coffee table. It's thee perfect size for millennials.
I am excited for the future of Wyrmwood. You guys are so innovative.
JV, you should have had you offering to go on a coffee run with that Swear Jar Currency. 😂
It seems very difficult but five episodes a week would be incredible! Hats off to all the people in the media department 😉
I would watch wyrmwood everyday! Please get up to the 5 episodes a week mark!
Binge watching UA-cam and this vid came up. The very end is *chefs kiss*
This might be a long shot but Wyrmwood should live stream the building of some of their their products
5 a week without content will just drive viewers away. I wait every week to watch the Wyrmlyfe episode. Keep an air of anticipation.
As far as ingravings go, its a maybe. like, for an heirloom quality table, having a name or names on there its just gonna get lost in a couple of generations. if it was engravings of say, filigrees and/or nice ordamental designs, then yeah sure, all for it!
Maybe have some dwarven runes or elvish
I think instead of engravings at $3 million I'd prefer package deals on add-ons for the tables?
Stuff like built in DM screens, spell slot trackers, mtg library and graveyard holders, dice trays or holders, cup holders/coasters, things that can be attached to the outside of the table to conserve table space.
I'm really looking forward to this Kickstarter!:)
I really like how Doug explained houses vs. hobbies in terms of how the market has changed (would love to see more discussions like this in the future!). My partner and I would honestly not buy a regular dining table but the Wyrmwood tables are so gosh darn beautiful and functional for our gaming lifestyle. In the suite we rent, we're lucky enough to have a dining space but we only use it to play D&D.
Plus the new kickstarter is so exciting for us because we thought we would have to wait years to be able to save enough for a Prophecy table but this new Kickstarter looks like something we can afford to invest in right now! (We may be using some of our wedding savings for this new table but it will be so worth it to get rid of that Ikea table we're using now in place of a gorgeous Wyrmwood table!)
The mere possibility of a Wyrmwood manufactured Wargaming Table, 6 ft. x 4 ft. (or larger), makes me giddy with excitement and anticipation! I'd LOVE to have the motto, "Who Dares With Me?", in Gothic Script on it. WOW!
Going back and seeing this video, and seeing how the table had an 8th of an inch displacement, thats the M&T machine right there, glad its fixed now
Man, it's so cool to see the company growing in leaps and bounds! Can't wait to see what the future has in store. And as much as I would love to watch Wyrmlife every day, having it once or twice a week really just makes it much more special and exciting to watch.
Could this furniture have optional modular components just like all the gaming furniture? Then a Wyrmwood Home portfolio would be totally backward compatible with all other Wyrmwood products. This could also simplify development because everything is simple, scalable, and modular. This could even open the door for open source furniture component development from independent craftspeople. (effectively managing furniture development like software development)
Ok, speaking as a Gen-Xer, who bought an Amish bed, dresser, chest-of-drawers and nightstands; I still have enough hand-me-down-value to say that being able to engrave the family name in it would be neat. We thought about leaving the tags from the manufacturer on our bed, so when our kids/grand-kids get it, they'll have a little piece of history as the quarter-sawn oak gets handed down.
As a Gen-Xer, we're stuck in the middle; understanding the value of quality furniture, as well as the $1k+ phone/computer. We want to have some 'nice' things, but also have some experiences as well. And since our retirement has been sunk several times with the economy now, we'll be working forever anyway. :-/