The Bigsby Vibrato Guide - Which Bigsby Do I Need?
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The Ultimate Bigsby Guide
The Bigsby Vibrato created by Paul Bigsby has been a staple for many players for many years. When the guitar is set up correctly it will stay in tune and give you that lovely warble of vibrato. We love them here and we install quite a few of them. We have a series of videos on our UA-cam channel about setting them up and making them work right. One question we get is, What one should I get, and why are there so many? The other question is, Is a "licensed" Bigsby any good? What is the difference? Let's break it all down.
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Another great video bro, well done. One note: Heresy and hearsay are different words with different meanings. Rock on and keep up the good work!👍
I got a B7 for an Epiphone Joe Pass, and installed it. 100% unit, very solid, smooth in operation. It is liquid smooth.
Good video, as always. A thing though. The Bigsby is an expensive puppy, especially if you have an archtop guitar. First comes the machine itself ($200) then comes an adapter that saves drilling a hole in your guitar ($100). From there, you might check out a couple of save-your-sanity upgrades, a string roller that corrects string angle to the bridge and another to facilitate stringing the d**m thing (maybe $150 for the two). Costwise, you will have entered the Floyd Rose FRX territory. The FRX gizmo comes with a complicated setup and a highly frustrating periodical search for a tiny black bug that's necessary to pretty much everything. If this is your first day with the FRX it will not be a happy one. In the end, you will have a rather large, ugly chunk of metal growing wart-like out of your lovely guitar top. There are two alternatives that are worth a look; first the Duesenberg and, second, the Stetsbar both of which attach to your guitar without adapters.
I vote for the Doozy, it sits great on my Epi 339 (kit came with Allp roller bridge, GRA8CO MUSIC for $159.94) and NO body mod needed! Previously, I also did a no- body mod needed Bigsby licensed Gretsch logo trem B3C ($148.99 w/ free shipping from Angela Instruments) onto my Gretsch Electromatic.... I added the Towner down tension bar ($32.98.... goes where stop tail piece would go, from Towner’s Bigsby Retrofits) and Gretsch nickel rocking bar bridge ($53.98) from Angela instruments... so that was about $250 bucks... it looks vintage and sounds great, but the Doozy looks great and sounds / works great and is easier to string... Paul at GRA8CO does a great job, knows a lot about trem systems!
B12 fits on a flat top guitar perfectly. I put one on my les Paul Jr. I made the happy mistake of forgetting to put the strings through the tension roller. It gives me a nice length of string behind the nut to play with. Kind of like a jazzmaster. It gives my LPJ a really nice mellow sound. 10/10 recommend.
Which one do you need?
Easy: a Duesenberg Les Trem II. 😋😎 Beats any Bigsby any day of the week in my book, especially in _range._
Thank you for the video, I have learned things today.
I learned some things about Bigsby's I never knew. Thanks!👍😎🎸🎶
Helping to promote this community of folks, who have talents to share, by creating some mutually supportive playlist thingy sounds like a very awesome idea indeed, Dylan. Great idea!
I'm looking forward to it almost as much as I look forward to your interesting and educational videos.
I just put a Vibramate and B500 on a 06 Ltd Viper 400. Long and short, it was the only option since all hardware was black. Looks great, plays great, sounds killer. The Bigsby on the Vibramate is quite a bit taller than a decked Bigsby and the break angles are shallower as compared to one on a SG or a Epiphone Wildkat. The one drawback is the added height makes latching the ESP case a bit more difficult since it is exact. Depending on your case or gigbag, the Vibramate and Bigsby will be a tall poppy and therefor prone to damage.
Thanks, this was helpful in identifying what the differences are between the Bigsby on my Epiphone Les Paul and the traditional, American made Bigsbys.
Bigsby and vibramate recommend the b5 and v5 - for the Squier starcaster classic vibe which has a curved top- it will look like it's floating off the back of the arch- or put a home made wedge to close the gap. The b7 will not fit because of the offset design. Just putting my research out there for anyone looking to mod their starcaster c.v.
The "Speed & Design" t-shirt is probably the most appropriate shirt for this video
Wow awesome thank you for the video I had no clue there are that many Bigsbys
The first thing to consider with a Bigsby is whether the guitar has a high enough bridge to allow you to use say a B3. This is perfectly possible with many Les Pauls. You want to eliminate the bar to alter bridge break angle if possible because that part is just more friction. Everyone installs B7s on Les Pauls when a B3 would be better. Neil Young and Daniel Lanois have early 50s Les Pauls and those have way lower neck angles so a B7 was necessary.
Oddly enough, B5's are going for less than B50's on Amazon right now.
On Reverb they cost pretty much the same. Weird.
Now on Stew-Mac, the B-5 is only about $25 more than the B-50.
The plastic sleeve on an 'import' is a bushing which is a type of bearing. When built to precise tolerances are perfectly acceptable.
I know you should'nt mess with things that work perfectly BUT.. I really love the look of the Bigsby B6 vintage style with the V cutout to go on my Gretsch 6120.. So thanks to your video, im now going to get the right one.. I just hope i dont mess things up. but thanks for a really informative video.. Greetings from Crete, Greece
This was great man thank you. I’m working on a Gibson Firebird style steel guitar
It’s gotta have a Bigsby !
I bought one at random and it fitted my geetar perfectly, innit!
Thank you for explaining - very useful!
Good explanation. Very helpful.
Great Job Dylan
Your presentations are clear and accurate expressions of Knowledge gained from research and experience.
Bravo Techno Maestro !!!
Great breakdown on the Bigsby line!
Any comments on the Göldo tremolos? These are the same ones used on those very nice Düsenburg guitars.
I really like and use the Göldo Les Trem on my Les Paul style guitars because of they're great feel and easy non-destructive installation. They're not cheap, but they're lovely, work great and have a very nice adjustment feature for the arm, so you can get the length and angle placement very exact, without cutting and bending. They also allow you to set the "stay" pressure, so it either flops down or stays wherever you push it, as you like. I love how this all works on the Göldos. They make models similar to most any Bigsby, too. They're also similar in price to most Bigsbys, but they have enhanced the technology a bit, modernized.
I'm curious what others think about them who have tried them.
I've also used the cheap clones in a few guitars, with some mods to get them working, mostly shim washers, lube, and spacers to make them align and operate better.
I have a Duessenberg Les Trem 2. Im replacing it w a Bigsby B50. Why? Because a: the trem arm is too long by the way it is attached so i have to play at the neck pickup. And b: it really does go out of tune even by turning the trem arm into place. I do like the simplicity bit those factors spoil it f me..
Hey Dylan! As a Bigsby fan, what do you think of the Duesenberg Les Trem II? I recently put one on my SG and like the arm action better than a Bigsby.
Also your hats are fine, you just need a better football team!
LOL! I will be a Cardinals fan for a long time. As far as the Les Trem, I have only used one once so i don't have a enough experience with it to form an opinion
DylanTalksTone if you ever have a stop-tail guitar sitting around, you should try one out! I feel they have a superior action, compared to a Bigsby, even if they aren’t quite as sexy.
Im changing my Les Trem 2 to a Bigsby. That arm simply is too long. Have to play at the neck pickup. Ideal is between the 2 pickups imo. Tuning issues also..
I wanna put a bigsby on a project cello. If I ever have the money lmao the b3 could replace the cello tailpiece very easily
If you ever do, I would love to see a video of that
Sorry to bring this post back from the dead. Just perchance this gets seen... are you talking about a cello that uses a bow?
Monsters Of The Id sometimes
If you’re plucking a cello you might have quite a bit of difficulty getting enough sustain to make a Bigsby useful. And string players don’t have frets so we can vibrate with our finger. There are a lot of neat tail pieces for cellos though. One uses cords that connect to the strings so it can boost resonance. Idk. I’m always down to see some wild stuff though. Bigsby that sucker
Monsters Of The Id lol I am a cellist, I'm aware. I just wanna do it anyway 😂😈
I have the squier cabronita with factory fitted import bigsby. It's great. Works very nicely.
Bigsby vibratos... hmmm. Can we please talk about the elephant in the room for a moment...???
Why have Gretsch (my favorite electric guitars forever) never put roller-saddle bridges on their stock line releases???
I subbed one in on my Electromatic and the difference was an instant massive improvement on staying in tune, even with heavy sixties surfin' guitar and rockabilly tremoloing (vibratoing) that I am proudly guilty of!
For your info... at the same pit stop, I also replaced the nut with a Tusq (low friction synthetic ivory). The nut that came with the guitar was plastic and looked like it had been made by an apprentice. It still had file marks in the top of it... WTF???
These two little additions (which should come as standard features... here comes the elephant I was referring to) cost LESS THAN $40 Australian, all up, and have turned my black'n'chrome-with-cream-trim Electro into a tour-de-force!!! On a $1400 guitar, I'm pretty sure than anyone with just a couple of brain cells still left working would happily pay the 2.8% difference to have a product that is vastly superior. What think'st thou? A no-brainer... right?
I recommend this move, HIGHLY, for all Bigsby fans with tune-o-matic bridges on their guits.
P.S. Love your channel, & many thanks.
On the newer Electromatics the nut is from GrapTech. As your Tusq. But it is called NuBone.
@@festushansen2362 NuBone???? Iiiiiiiiii LIKE IT!! Tx for the reply.
Doesn’t change the length of the string. Just the tension.
Guess I need the B6 after watching this...I have a big ol fat bodied jazz box
didn´t knew there were V11´s, cool video man, thanks!
What type of bigsby would you put on a stratocaster?
B52
A Vega Trem.
Witch bigsby I need for a Gibson Les Paul
B7
Lili Vi ok thanks a ton👍🏼
Which bigsby should be on my SG standard?
Hola, que Bigsby recomendarían para una SG? Muy buen video, gracias. Saludos!
Would you do a video on how to mount a Bigsby on an Epiphone Casino
you were showing a towner roller bar. it has a very small roller so there is no friction. I have one on m ES335
Dylan, I have a G&L Assat Classic, so... Do you think a B16 will fit on that guitar? Thks love bigsbys as well I added a B5 to my Tele Custom and my 335 I added a B7 😎
Nice tips. Thanks.
P.S. Any tips on roller bridges? Apologies if you already have a video on that somewhere.
If I had the lower grade 70 Bigsby, I would lubricate the plastic insert to metal with a very high grade synthetic thin lubricant, anything to keep the plastic insert from wearing. Kind of depends how picky you are.
Can I put it on a stratocaster style
Hey Dylan I have a Gibson Les Paul 2001 model and an Eplphone ES 175. 209 model. I would like to put the American made Bigsy on both of them. Which models do I use for both guitars thank you. 🎸
What about the “Chet Atkins” bar. I bought one to install on my bigsby modded Squier bass vi. I waiting for a new string set.
Thanks for the informative video. My next build ( number 2 !...designed and built) is going to have a bigsby so I was looking for info. Also I am fond of “The Answer” or Wonderbar. I have seen and heard on on a Tele that was absolutely magical. Do you have an opinion on these ? I am wondering why they aren’t more popular.?
Wasup! Will the B16 work well on a hardtail strat? If not which model will?
I love the B7 it has all the action I require.
The brake bar is a great addition to the Bigsby because one can use it or place the string over the bar so you have the best of both worlds.
The B7 has been great for me, it has about a step and a half of sway and I would suggest it for those who want a good tremolo which is American made.
Hi Dylan, thank you for this clarification. Now, I even contacted Bigsby (Fender) themselves with the coming question but I got a very vague answer: I have a 2017 Fender American Professional Telecaster Deluxe ShawBucker (you run out of breath if you try to say it all together) and I was looking into adding a tremolo. Is it really impossible to avoid significant changes in the guitar (I am OK with some drilling but if I have to adapt a different bridge then I don't think it's worth it)? Having said that I have a strat with the tremolo bar, so I can go back to that when I can't deal with the hardtail bridge... Thank you for your help.
Any guesses on which Bigsby to use on an Epiphone Sorrento ‘62 Reissue? It’s an “archtop” but there’s very little arch. The top is quite flat actually. I was thinking maybe B7 or B70? Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
Good video. I learned plenty! I'm curious at 7.:53 you mention Micheal Moriarty. Is he the Micheal Moriarty Singer Actor and composer? Just curious. If he isayou have Big Fans and subscribers. lol
Hey Dylan, great content! On the B6 illustration, what is that bar called that has replaced the tailpiece and where can I find it? Experimenting with trem systems and I like that look. Thanks!
Thanks a lot for the video Dylan! I have a Gibson ES-339, does B7 + Vibramate v7 will fit for it? Even if B5 is for flat top guitars, I saw it on carved ones, it is a good idea to put one B5 on mine with a Vibramate V5? Thanks!!
Vibramate has a specs sheet of this on their website, you can't use the B7+V7 but it says you can use the V5, V5-ST and V500b with their respective trems.
What about the Bigsby style B & G palm benders? Do u have any videos on those?
I have a Fender Starcaster. Which Bigsby would I need to use since the body shape and contouring is quite a departure from the usual Fender line. THANKS!
I bought a guitar with an added B11 on it. Also I had the same issue, where is the info on this thing not even how much they go for?
Anybody have experience with this Bigs or know how much new they went for?
Good job with the Video. Thanks
I just picked up a Peerless Retromatic and I think it’d look and function killer with a Bigsby but I’m still unsure which one of these to buy, thoughts?
Please I dont understand, I need Sub in Spanish!!
Can you tell me the meaning diferences please?
I have an old Japanese Satellite bigsby, it is crude but efficient :P
I'm so confused....
I want a black Bigsby for a Tele, so if I understand this correctly, the B5 is made in the US using original sandcast methods and is manufactured with bearings and it's the ONLY B5 series that is US made. The Bigsby website shows the B500 and it has the "Licensed" logo, so based on what you indicated in your video it is a foreign product that uses plastic bushings and not bearings.
IF the aforementioned is true then I can't purchase a US made Bigsby in Black, so my options are paint a standard B5 or buy the B500 and over bore the bushing cavity for bearings?
This has brought me perilously close to scrapping the idea. :-(
Hey @DylanTalksTone, which Bigsby can I buy for my Epiphone Les Paul 100, I bought the B7 but it was too bog for it. Thanks!
So I'm buying a guitar that has a B70 installed from factory (Schecter T S/H-1B), should I bother upgrading to a B7? Will the holes in +
the body line up? Or wait until the B70 dies (go out of tune)
Hi Dylan, I have never owned a Guitar with a Bigsby. Im thinking about buying a Grestch 2410 Streamliner. Is it possible to tune down with this type of set up or will it cause problems ???
Thanks for your detailed info... I find it very very helpful and I'm sure it will be for many others. I have a gretsch g2217 that i got for a great price and love it, even if only comes with a volume control and a tone control and not as traditional as all other gretsch guitars. So I want to add a bigsby with roller bridge but not yet sure which one to pick among the cheapest ones like b50, b70 etc... i mean based on what you explain it could be the b50 since my gretsch is flat top but anyway, can you help me to know which one would fit better for this type of gretsch guitars such as g2217 and g2210 ?
Dylan, do you have the same tone sacrificing reservations about a vibramate on a 335 that you previously outlined on a tele?
Interesting stuff thank you so much! ... Would the B50 fit on a 2/3 scale Telecaster like the J&D TL?
Hey Dylan; I have a Ibanez S521 and I want to add a Bigsby to it. Which American made Bigsby would be best for it ?
I've got a les paul style guitar but with wraparound bridge (prs style) so I don't have any hole I can use because there's no stoptail piece, and I don't want to drill any hole. what should I buy?
Hey Dylan, I have a 78 Tele body on the bench that had a tremolo on it at some point, and would like to add a trem to it. The hole pattern is slightly different than a B5. The two holes in the body that are nearest the strap button are 2" apart exactly. Any chance it could be a B50? I don't have one to measure and would rather not buy one on a hunch. Called Fender/Bigsby, and they didn't have a diagram. Thank You!!
I put a USA b7 on an SG, and it is better.
That's a great thing but the price... Cmon, I can buy a little bit of pedals for the same money...
I rly want the bigsby but obviously the pedals are better choice
What Bigsby model is the best for an Epiphone Casino?
Which Bigsby should I get for my Danelectro 59 nos??
So what exactly a tension bar does to sound and how do I know if I will need it?
Hey Dylan, the hat and the tee shirt are goo to go, but loose the music in the background when you are discussing something, music is good if there is no dialogue in the scene. Otherwise, your stuff is great!
hey Dylan, Dylan here.. quick question what type specifically would be good for a D'angelico Premiere DC guitar? its basically a 335
Do I need a B5 or a B7 for a Studio Model Les Paul?
So what one do you recommend for my les paul (Tokai LS136F) My teach recons a B5 but you say thats for a flat top
What do you recommend for a Les Paul ?
Can u tell me if the bigsby will affect the sustain of the Tele?
Which will have better sustain? String through body or bigsby? Thnx
Does it affect the sound? Maybe. Does it sound like a tele ? Yup. I think people obsess over this way too much. A properly setup guitar will have good sustain period. It's not like you are holding notes for minutes on end.
Which Bigsby should I install in a Telecaster American Deluxe Thinline?
The B5 amzn.to/314ltMy
If you building a strat with a bigsby would you still use the b5?
Hey bro a really big fan and I’m thinking replacing my tremolo bar with Chet Atkins but I don’t where and what size please help. My Bigsby b50 please help thank you
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Which one for a les Paul custom
For an epiphone les paul 100, which bigsby i should buy?
If I buy a guitar with a B50 on it, can I swap it with an extra B5 that I have laying around? Will the screw mount holes match up?
Yes.
Love the videos... good info on a bigsby.
Do you think a b5 would work with a recessed TOM?
I have a b11
What kind will work for a D’angelico Atlantic ?
can I use b5 on my 335 without vibramate?
Are the b50 and b5 interchangeable? Do the mounting holes line up?
Hola.Entiendo que no están alineados el b5 y el b50. Saludos.
Anybody know what I should use for a Squier Starcaster-an offset semi-hollow?
FalonKenobii without look probably a b7. If you can you link me the model I’ll look more into it
What about the b500??
Hi, I want to install a bigsby B7 on to my epiphone casino. Is it okay to use a bigsby on a hollowbody? Thanks
Hi, I just installed a B70 on my Casino Coupe. The body is obviously shorter than a standard Casino but I thought I gonna share my experience as you are asking. The two things that made the experience horrible had both to do with the tension roller. When I had the strings running under it it made the acoustics of the guitar sound really harsh, metallic and not very nice and because of the steep break angle the wiggle action wasn't very smooth even with a roller bridge. Eventually I restrung it bypassing the tension roller and it worked and sounded so much better. So far I haven't had a string pop out of the roller even with hard bends. Gonna replace it soon with a B3 seeing that I don't need the extra roller. Hope this helps a little bit
Nice shirt :)
A B5 or a B5 Short tail?
What would be the best bigsby fo a epiphone les paul standard?
Consider a Dueseberg Trem II, I put one on my Epiphone ES 339, no body mod needed, it sounds GREAT!
what about a b700 would that work on a tele
No
There's nothing wrong or cheap about those 'licensed' Bigsbys. I go pretty hard on 2 that I have on my Gretschs' . well, I don't dive bomb.
what about the sg or les pauls
We covered those
@@DylanTalksTone ok mate will have a look cheers
Could you please recommend which Bigsby I need for my Fender Tele Player? bit.ly/2K44YtD Will I have to drill the tremolo into the body with this type of bridge? Thanks.
The B5 is the one to use, you'll have to drill into the body to fit it, unless you get a Vibramate V5-TEV for it.