Sorry about that, however, when making this, I was kind of designing the effects for my style of music. The effects would probably work for a range of styles though!
No worries, glad to help. Our focus here was streamlining. We both travel a lot and play shows all over the world, so rather than cart around lots of gear on planes we wanted to come up with something that'd be efficient and very powerful yet only use one piece of gear. I think this modification does that nicely :)
In any case, You two have done some amazing work with this mapping. I'm absolutely grateful for your hard work. And the price-point you're offering it at is extremely fair. You deserve every penny. Keep up the good work fellas, you're kings among men!
Ok, to begin with, almost everything you've asked has been answered in this video and the installation video which can be found on the product page. MIDI Setup: Have the APC40 script set to APC40Live, set the input and output to APC40, then set track and remote to on for input and output (don't worry about sync, that's only used for syncing multiple Ableton's). All your problems should be non existant if you set this up correctly.
Yeah exactly, There's limitations to what we could do with the APC20 in terms of playing live, the only way it'd really work for something like this is in conjunction with another controller that has knobs, such as a BCR2000 or something, however when we made this we were keeping in mind the amount of gear needed to set-up/travel with. The idea here is to streamline everything into the minimum amount of gear with maximum efficiency and control, hence the script component of the template.
If you're keen to contact Will I'd suggest commenting on his channel. The installation video is probably a good video to ask him on (which contains instructions on how to install this template/script). That can be found on his channel by searching "Glitch Factory: Installation Instructions". However, I'm not sure we'll cover the APC20. I think next on the cards is the Ohm64.
Great template. I've modified this to be more in line with how I play e.g. removing the L/R frequency fade from the cue knob (which i don't find particularly intuitive) and adding tempo change, plus a bunch of other tweaks but fully recommend checking this out. Nice work Will + Bill.
I think so too. I was torn between the 2x Launchpads and the 25SL combo and the APC40. There's pros and cons with both options but I feel like I made the right choice. I'll upload some videos demonstrating my gears uses soon :)
I just push the gain on the limiter until there's a couple of dB of gain reduction on Live's native limiter. That usually seems to sound punchy enough and loud enough for my purposes.
Even though I don't own an APC40 I can still make a similar layout using my 2 Launchpads and 25SL MkII. I'm currently making my own remote scripts for the SL so I can also replicate some of the controls here. Rather than try to change the behaviour of the Launchpad I could avoid scene launching. Sooner or later I'm gonna want to perform my pre-made productions like this and this video has basically explained how I can do it. Thanks for sharing! Wicked intro btw! ;)
Also, speaking of that murky bit of explanation regarding the track, remote, and sync settings, it'd sure be helpful to have you explain how this should be set up in painstaking detail, because, as it sits, I'm not even close to sure that I've configured these settings right, and I'm afraid that may be the root of the problems I'm having. Also, occasionally the Master ppm meter aka clip track trigger buttons just stop working. As do the other clip trigger buttons.
From the first time i loaded this template (following the instructions to the letter (exc for the murky bit regarding the inputs and outputs remote enabling in the midi tab in options menu) I've had trouble with the bottom row of buttons triggering the fade to black effect (yes I've messed with the slider that controls that parameter's wet/dry) basically, they don't turn it on, so I manually midi mapped em to just be on or off, instead of the way they were designed: on only when held down.
as for making the stems louder.. I render them at -6db and just adjust the clip volume to match a professionally mastered tune.. maybe i'm sacrificing a bit of quality by using stems to perform rather than mastered tunes but it's 10000x more fun and gratifying..
Also, the device mapping seems to get stuck on a single device and despite what clip i'm viewing (and despite the blue hand showing up on that track's macro 8) the bottom eight knobs on my apc40 don't take over the control of that device. It's quite odd. I'm also not clear on how to use the send macro effects (unless i'm just completely misunderstanding their purpose entirely.) Thanks for any help you can give.
This may be a longer and harder journey than I am actually wanting, but where would you say is a good place to start learning how to write remote scripts with the PPD Meters and different colors for controllers like this?
Dudes... this be aces :) think this may just be the basis of what i'm needing to get going. Couple of questions though, I only have the apc20 can i still get this to work ok? I use it with the evolution uc-33 & was hoping i can just move some of the mapping? Main probs I can see would be maping so when individual track is selected the same pots are changing the rack on that channel. What are your thoughts? Oh sidenote, some flaming hot sounds u got too!! :)
hey thanks so much man. So when you play a live, you just mix (which peak you recommend?-This track was 10dbfs) and put a limiter on the master? But how much gain its necessary for the limiter?
All apologies sir. I thought I listened intently and painstakingly followed the instructions, but I'm human and quite fallible. The odd thing about the errors I was having were that they were intermittent. Initially everything would work great, but then, after messing about for awhile, the automap to device function would just stop working and the other problems I described ensued, so I assumed it was something other than a configuration issue. Once I can test your suggestion, I'll let u know
hi!! mr.bill i will purchase an template for apc40 but i dont know which one choose, willmarshall apc40 template or glitch factory... i want use it for a mix between live act and dj set, with instruments like guitar through vst like guitarrig, rec clips live, voices, etc... obviously i need to mod a little bit any ill choose, what do you recommend? thx for your time!
Hi Mr Bill, scuze the nooby question but is it easy to switch between the original APC 40 template and The Glitch Factory, is it just an option in the MIDI setup preferences?
When I plug my APC 20 it works marvelously with your template, except the little fade to grey buttons don't work on the APC 20 sides of things. Also after a few minutes the knobs stop working all together. What could I be doing wrong ? Thank you.
I really want to buy this but I'm worried it won't work. I have just downloaded the free DJ template on your website but it won't work. I have Ableton Live 8 Suite on PC.... I have installed everything but when I open the template it says that it was created on a "more recent" edition of Ableton and isn't compatible with mine. Is that right? I thought Live Suite 8 WAS the most recent? I don't have the cash to upgrade to anything else. Please let me know if theres a way I can make this work.
anywhere I can get the stems for Yeasty Clam Traps? I play that track out all the time and I'd love to load it into my stem deck (which happens to have 5 layers also!)
Nice tutorial. However, it would be great if you could've used some tunes thats not as glitchy. Since its kinda hard to exactly hear what the effects do sometimes..
Hey I bought the Dj pro template...1.can't move the RedBox left or right (This implies I can't add new midi tracks to record. 2. Can't arm tracks to record...like Civilia00 wants to do (bcs the APC buttons are weirdly mapped). 3. Won't get any service support. Any solutions to this problems?
Hi Mr Bill... I'm trying to get hold of will marshal re. commissioning him to make an apc20 template identical to glitch factory (minus the dials of course!)... Have emailed him at his custom builds email address but no reply. Is it a simple port starting from the apc40 script and mappings or is it more complicated than that? Thanks for supporting the ableton community!
Ok this may be a silly question but on this template how do you adjust the bpm between tracks? I saw you had a 130 bpm track and then the 140 bpm that you diced up. How would adjust the bpm during a live performance. (Again sorry if this is a newby question.)
Sorry about that, however, when making this, I was kind of designing the effects for my style of music. The effects would probably work for a range of styles though!
I'd say Glitch Factory is probably what you'd want, it can be easily modified to be used like a DJ setup with extra things in it.
No worries, glad to help. Our focus here was streamlining. We both travel a lot and play shows all over the world, so rather than cart around lots of gear on planes we wanted to come up with something that'd be efficient and very powerful yet only use one piece of gear. I think this modification does that nicely :)
In any case, You two have done some amazing work with this mapping. I'm absolutely grateful for your hard work. And the price-point you're offering it at is extremely fair. You deserve every penny. Keep up the good work fellas, you're kings among men!
Ok, to begin with, almost everything you've asked has been answered in this video and the installation video which can be found on the product page.
MIDI Setup: Have the APC40 script set to APC40Live, set the input and output to APC40, then set track and remote to on for input and output (don't worry about sync, that's only used for syncing multiple Ableton's).
All your problems should be non existant if you set this up correctly.
Much respect to Mr. Bill. He pretty much taught me Ableton through tutorials.
Missoula MT loves Mr. Bill !!!!
Yeah exactly, There's limitations to what we could do with the APC20 in terms of playing live, the only way it'd really work for something like this is in conjunction with another controller that has knobs, such as a BCR2000 or something, however when we made this we were keeping in mind the amount of gear needed to set-up/travel with. The idea here is to streamline everything into the minimum amount of gear with maximum efficiency and control, hence the script component of the template.
Thank you so much, Mr. Bill, for sharing all this information with us!
is there any way for us to purchase this template still?
If you're keen to contact Will I'd suggest commenting on his channel. The installation video is probably a good video to ask him on (which contains instructions on how to install this template/script). That can be found on his channel by searching "Glitch Factory: Installation Instructions". However, I'm not sure we'll cover the APC20. I think next on the cards is the Ohm64.
Haha, thanks very much. If you're interested in purchasing the script + template you can do so with the link in the video description.
Great template. I've modified this to be more in line with how I play e.g. removing the L/R frequency fade from the cue knob (which i don't find particularly intuitive) and adding tempo change, plus a bunch of other tweaks but fully recommend checking this out. Nice work Will + Bill.
I think so too. I was torn between the 2x Launchpads and the 25SL combo and the APC40. There's pros and cons with both options but I feel like I made the right choice. I'll upload some videos demonstrating my gears uses soon :)
I just push the gain on the limiter until there's a couple of dB of gain reduction on Live's native limiter. That usually seems to sound punchy enough and loud enough for my purposes.
PLS PLS PLS GIVE US A FRESH LINK FOR THESE @Mr. Bill
Even though I don't own an APC40 I can still make a similar layout using my 2 Launchpads and 25SL MkII. I'm currently making my own remote scripts for the SL so I can also replicate some of the controls here. Rather than try to change the behaviour of the Launchpad I could avoid scene launching.
Sooner or later I'm gonna want to perform my pre-made productions like this and this video has basically explained how I can do it. Thanks for sharing! Wicked intro btw! ;)
This is an amazing template/way to use Live in my opinion.
Thank you SO much for sharing! :)
I still have my old APC40 and would love a copy of this template!
Also, speaking of that murky bit of explanation regarding the track, remote, and sync settings, it'd sure be helpful to have you explain how this should be set up in painstaking detail, because, as it sits, I'm not even close to sure that I've configured these settings right, and I'm afraid that may be the root of the problems I'm having. Also, occasionally the Master ppm meter aka clip track trigger buttons just stop working. As do the other clip trigger buttons.
From the first time i loaded this template (following the instructions to the letter (exc for the murky bit regarding the inputs and outputs remote enabling in the midi tab in options menu) I've had trouble with the bottom row of buttons triggering the fade to black effect (yes I've messed with the slider that controls that parameter's wet/dry) basically, they don't turn it on, so I manually midi mapped em to just be on or off, instead of the way they were designed: on only when held down.
Is it still downloadable somewhere?? For Ableton 9? But for 8 would be also great.
as for making the stems louder.. I render them at -6db and just adjust the clip volume to match a professionally mastered tune.. maybe i'm sacrificing a bit of quality by using stems to perform rather than mastered tunes but it's 10000x more fun and gratifying..
Be great if we could get a 2024 update of this , I'd pay for it!!!
Also, the device mapping seems to get stuck on a single device and despite what clip i'm viewing (and despite the blue hand showing up on that track's macro 8) the bottom eight knobs on my apc40 don't take over the control of that device. It's quite odd. I'm also not clear on how to use the send macro effects (unless i'm just completely misunderstanding their purpose entirely.) Thanks for any help you can give.
This may be a longer and harder journey than I am actually wanting, but where would you say is a good place to start learning how to write remote scripts with the PPD Meters and different colors for controllers like this?
Dudes... this be aces :) think this may just be the basis of what i'm needing to get going. Couple of questions though, I only have the apc20 can i still get this to work ok? I use it with the evolution uc-33 & was hoping i can just move some of the mapping? Main probs I can see would be maping so when individual track is selected the same pots are changing the rack on that channel. What are your thoughts? Oh sidenote, some flaming hot sounds u got too!! :)
Friend, how do you make the vertical lights where the apc pads fire to keep oscillating?
Why does one faded control bother decks?
So the bass fader controls deck a nd b bass fader same time?
hey thanks so much man.
So when you play a live, you just mix (which peak you recommend?-This track was 10dbfs) and put a limiter on the master?
But how much gain its necessary for the limiter?
Amazing Lesson! thx for uploading!
All apologies sir. I thought I listened intently and painstakingly followed the instructions, but I'm human and quite fallible. The odd thing about the errors I was having were that they were intermittent. Initially everything would work great, but then, after messing about for awhile, the automap to device function would just stop working and the other problems I described ensued, so I assumed it was something other than a configuration issue. Once I can test your suggestion, I'll let u know
Is this template still available? 11 years on. Would love to check it out
Does anyone know where one could still find such a template? I know I'm only 10 years late but I'd love to pull out the old girl for a spin.
Im buying this soon. Fantastic!
Hey there! Any way we could get an updated link for this?
hi!! mr.bill i will purchase an template for apc40 but i dont know which one choose, willmarshall apc40 template or glitch factory... i want use it for a mix between live act and dj set, with instruments like guitar through vst like guitarrig, rec clips live, voices, etc... obviously i need to mod a little bit any ill choose, what do you recommend? thx for your time!
Hi Mr Bill, scuze the nooby question but is it easy to switch between the original APC 40 template and The Glitch Factory, is it just an option in the MIDI setup preferences?
Anywhere can download this APC40 template?thanks
Plenty of takeaways from this thanks.
When I plug my APC 20 it works marvelously with your template, except the little fade to grey buttons don't work on the APC 20 sides of things.
Also after a few minutes the knobs stop working all together. What could I be doing wrong ? Thank you.
I really want to buy this but I'm worried it won't work.
I have just downloaded the free DJ template on your website but it won't work.
I have Ableton Live 8 Suite on PC.... I have installed everything but when I open the template it says that it was created on a "more recent" edition of Ableton and isn't compatible with mine.
Is that right? I thought Live Suite 8 WAS the most recent? I don't have the cash to upgrade to anything else.
Please let me know if theres a way I can make this work.
~_^ i'm just playin' with ya
btw, just voted for beat the clock. damn fine track, much like the rest of your work
Hey! where i can downloat ir with paypal?
anywhere I can get the stems for Yeasty Clam Traps? I play that track out all the time and I'd love to load it into my stem deck (which happens to have 5 layers also!)
This is awesome! I wanna buy this, not sure if it's totally compatible with live 9 though. Is it?
now thats a sick template! O.o
Nice tutorial. However, it would be great if you could've used some tunes thats not as glitchy. Since its kinda hard to exactly hear what the effects do sometimes..
thanks you! thanks for all your vids and help!
LMFAO "Yeasty Clam Traps" 15:43
Hey Will, can you create a similar template for the APC20? I'd be AWESOME if you did!! :)
how do you control FX within Ableton, without using the APC 40?
How do you disable the triggering of the dummy clips?
Can you use an APC40 for left deck and an APC20 for the right deck and cross fade between them? Can you have 2 selection areas?
Hey I bought the Dj pro template...1.can't move the RedBox left or right (This implies I can't add new midi tracks to record. 2. Can't arm tracks to record...like Civilia00 wants to do (bcs the APC buttons are weirdly mapped). 3. Won't get any service support. Any solutions to this problems?
Cooooool
Ahhhh, haha, yis thet makes since :p
can you use VSTI as well as audio clips in this templates ?
how many fingers do I have Mr Bill? Clever stuff guys thanks
Hi Mr Bill... I'm trying to get hold of will marshal re. commissioning him to make an apc20 template identical to glitch factory (minus the dials of course!)... Have emailed him at his custom builds email address but no reply. Is it a simple port starting from the apc40 script and mappings or is it more complicated than that? Thanks for supporting the ableton community!
How do you switch from track to track with different BPMs?
Ok this may be a silly question but on this template how do you adjust the bpm between tracks? I saw you had a 130 bpm track and then the 140 bpm that you diced up. How would adjust the bpm during a live performance. (Again sorry if this is a newby question.)
How do you save your music
And download it from the APC40mkII
hey mr. bill. I was wondering if you have routed someway to change the tempo to play multiple genres?
My birth certificate actually says 'Bill'.
Woooooooooow thats great
Where are you from dude?
You sound a bit like a kiwi :o :D
hard to tell the difference between a glitch effect and your raw stems :)
Damn fine tutorial, fellas.
i need to know this too
any advice would be divine. Thanks in advance
this is genius btw. well worth the money
lol bills tunes are so glitchy its hard to tell what the controller is even doing here
better than CDJ's
We Need New link @Mr. Bill
oh man yea this template hasnt been up for days, man.. lol
TAKE MY MONEY
11:00
dude... this template
dick a and dick b *teehee!* wonderful work, as always ^_~;
Very interesting :)