i've never seen a story were the villain defeats the hero at the beginning, goes through an existential phase, decides his life has no meaning without someone to stop him from achieving his goal, creates a super hero out of an everyday guy who turns out to be more of a villain, then the first villain is forced to fight the later one in oeder to save the status quo. If you say we saw that a million time before, i think i'm way out of the loop
+Ricado Santos nostalgia critic has always been very assholic against "kid" movies, he always wants to match them with some shit he saw that came years after the movie itself , i can't believe he says Mulan is simplistic and shit like that it is just the way he thinks about kid movies, he has said it before: "what can you expect from a disney movie?" like they were all the same movies, he is only good to review really bad movies and superhero movies , for the rest he is just tooo hipster for them
When did he say Mulan was simplistic? He's not being hipster, he's presenting his genuine opinion. That is a really unfair comment to make about someone who's sharing an opinion in a civil manner.
You know what this movie really suffered from? Horrible, horrible marketing. I saw the trailer in the theater and just rolled my eyes because it looked so stupid, and when I finally decided to watch the thing, I found that it had a lot of heartfelt moments and unique ideas. The trailers didn't really portray what the movie was about, and so it ended up drawing a different crowd than it would have had, and those people probably didn't enjoy as much because of it. It's really a shame that something like Minions draws a crowd, when movies like this, making actual attempts at originality and story, get swept aside.
nothing against NC's opinion of the movie itself... but WOW did he screw up with the chronology. Megamind pretended to be someone else to be with Roxanne, and when she finds out about that is when she turns him away. she didn't start a romance with him willingly, it was completely accidental. but after that, of course, they wind up working together to stop Titan. also, the thing with Titan was happening alongside the Roxanne romance. Roxanne turning Megz down isn't the thing that made him create a new superhero, though she did give him the idea early on by accident. also, i will always say this: Roxanne's character isn't ruined by her damselness! she's a normal human being in situation where superheros and villains are fighting each other. so even though i agree it would have been cool to see her beat those odds and be the hero, her being unable to beat up Titan or whoever is pretty... expected? since she has no powers? i dunno.
Megamind, in my opinion, is not only the best Dreamworks production, but one of the best animated feature-length movies EVER. The story is great, and animation fits, the jokes are hilarious, the romance is sweet and believable, the characters are consistent, and the ending it perfect. You can tell through watching it that this was a story that the creators were dying to write, and had a great time making. It truly is an underrated film, and one of my top five favorites.
I thought it was pretty unique, never seen a movie where the villain wins and realizes his life is pointless and the events turn the tables enough for the villain to become the hero...I don't get why he says we've seen it a million times...am I missing something?
TheShanicpower I think it has some parody elements to it though. Like the multiple references to Superman (both the hero and the villain have nearly identical origins to Superman) and just the overall comedic tone
he downplay's the entire movie. saying it was more of the same, when in reality it's different from anything,in that remark incredibles is more like a funny copy of FF.
This is probably one of my absolute sincere favorite movies from Dreamworks. Critic makes it sound like it's merely an "alright" movie but my word... I had such FUN watching this movie! Just grade A fun!! It was super, super enjoyable! Sure, if you want to get technical there are "better" Dreamworks movies if you're following the "what constitutes a great movie" formula... but my word, Megamind is some of the most fun I've had watching an animated movie. It's SO underrated and deserves SO much more love!
Couldn't have said it any better. IMO this is one of the better Dreamworks movies next to Shrek and Madagascar (which were both created by the same people that made Megamind BTW so it's no surprise this movie did well).
I can sum up the vibe of why this movie is so friggin fun in a clip roughly thirty seconds long: “Oh you’re a villain alright. Just not a very super one.” “Oh YEAH? What’s the difference??” “PRESENTATION!!!”
To properly describe why I liked this movie so much, I think I'll have to quote the NC himself on what he said about the Emperor's New Groove: the villains are the ones that really made the movie for him. Well, same for me and Megamind: this villain (ergo the hero lol) is what really made me obsess over this film for a little while (I think I re-watched it like 5 times or so XD). Megamind is one of those characters who are simply enjoyable to watch, regardless of the story they're in. I mean, the story's good too, but that wasn't all there was to it. The protagonist's little overreactions, his expressions, his attitude towards others and his whole dialogue are just so well made I never got tired of him.
I will never deny this film's faults, however, I absolutely love this film. I think the arc of Megamind himself just appeals to my personal sensibilities greatly.
I think the new angle they took here was the ."nice guy syndrome" angle which isn't very common. The villain, yes does have powers, but he's a REAL villain. Like the assholes you see on the news. He treats Roxanne like a real fucking person like she is then expects her to date him. Then he tries to kill her for rejecting him. This is real shit that you see on the news. Men raping and murdering women for rejecting them. All this movie really did was make it more appropriate for children. And Megamind is very respectful. He accepts that Roxanne isn't interested. He doesn't force himself on her. He actually does treat her like a human and doesn't expect anything in return. This movie was way deeper than a lot of people give it credit for.
Yes! This is my favorite thing about Megamind. There's an alien genius supervillain around, but the actual bad guy turns out to be the female lead's creepy co-worker who won't take no for an answer . . . that's actually pretty revolutionary.
Emily Nelson I agree as well. It also has a emphasis on "nature vs nurture"! When comparing who megamind and metro-man came to be initially by illustrating the environments they were both raised in and how initially the bad guy just wants to be liked, but not being accepted by his peers influenced who he becomes just like in REAL LIFE!
Every Dreamworks movie has unique character designs- not just princess/ prince re-written H.C Andersen/ Hamlet copies. Sometimes the main character can be horse, ogre, fat panda, viking...the most unlikely concept turns out to big hit with smaller team less assets and smaller budget. Disney does what it's good at, but often lacks of originality.
You know, Monsters vs. Aliens got a TV series, How to Train Your Dragon got one, Kung Fu Panda got one, why, out of all the Dreamworks movies, did this one never get a series? I would've loved to have seen a continuation of those as a TV series.
Love Monsters vs. Aliens didn't have that many either, though, the chick, the fish guy, the Mothra knockoff, the blob, and the roach versus Minion, Megamind, and Metroman, plus the rogue's gallery they'd have to come up with for Megamind to fight.
The marketing was terrible, and usually the continuations usually suck, and i don't really know if they should even make a sequel, just in case it might be worse, and might spoil my love for the first
Megamind is my favourite film by Dreamworks, I underestimated the film but tried it for a friend and I enjoyed it. I love how the story tries to portray destiny, and if destiny is a choice or it's something you are summoned to do.
As for Tina Fey's character. It's not a bad thing she's the damsel again. It's no degradation on her character because her character. The writers even said they needed a straight man between Megamind and Metro Man's ridiculous stunts. She's that stable character who's ok with herself. It's Megamind who needs to go through the change in character. Therefore it makes sense that in the climax of the film he is forced to care about someone other than himself and save her.
I... really cannot understand this review. Were we watching the same movie? "Seen this before." Uh, okay, when? Where? Show me a film where the villain wins? One where he realizes the chase was his reason to exist? Where he becomes the hero? Megamind was fantastic. I took my two little nieces to see it and they laughed... and I laughed - A LOT. It was hilarious and inventive. Nothing felt forced or fake. The only crime was marketing failed it miserably and it feels like a film that is great, buuut very few people were even aware of. Making the woman the hero? You are aware the film is called "Megamind" right? It's about Megamind and his journey, not some boring girl-power movie that will have you believing women suplex men and pee standing up, but choose not to.
+Larry Wolf • I think the reason it can to some 'feel' like a cliché story is because of the Anti-Hero Trope. Something that is quite common, but in those situations we're not talking about an all-out Villain; merely someone who isn't a Heroic but has their abilities. • There is also another common trope of the "Last Minute Switch", where a Villain has a change of heart to help the Hero(es) but those are always left-field more Deus Ex Machinima because the writer can't figure out a 'Happy Ending' rather than good story telling. • Even if we look at Despicable Me, which is a similar concept of a Super Villain turned Hero... that occurs not because he wants to be a 'Hero" but rather in the first movie is entirely accidental, and in the second it's to both impress his daughters (who he wants to be proud of him) and proving that he's still "The Best" regardless which side he's on. • Megamind is a very different story to all of these. Sure it relies on the Superman Trope from which it is clearly parodying but Megamind himself never WANTED to be Evil or a Super Villain; rather it is merely a life that chose him, and rapidly becomes the only life he ever knew. Sure, he's terrible at it; but it's because he's actually good hearted and just lonely rather than a selfish jerk. • What ends up cool is the message, of being "True to yourself, not Societies Expectations... only then can you achieve happiness." - soppy and fortune cookie as it might be, it's still a good message for Kids and Adults; and a staple of DreamWorks Animated Films.
+Larry Wolf a movie where the bad guy wins? Doctor Horrible's Sing-a-long blog. The Superhero is constantly defeating the villian (who in the end is a good person) until the he actually wins causing the superhero to go through some life-altering change. but then realizes he, the villian, feels hollow because his purpose was fighting captian hammer and trying to win the girl. once penny dies and hammer is out of the way, he relishes in the victory for a little while but its heavily implied by the last shot that he regrets it all.
Many Batman stories have the "chase is the reason to exist" many villain stories have the "society created them" and they have redemption at the end like the kid in Deadpool 2 and many X-Men characters actually. A lot of superheroes movies have empowered women.
I just don't get how the "Damsel in Distress" trope, even HERE gets criticized. Here actually did something different, considering that in the beginning when she was in distress, she's all snarky and sarcastic about it because she doesn't perceive herself in any real danger. It's because she KNOWS that Metro-Man is always going to save her...until the first time when he doesn't. Then we get a new villain who actually has powers, the hero is no where to be found, and the only guy who is available to stop the rampaging bad-guy, is the former-bad-guy who actually hasn't had a single legitimate victory against a super-being at all. The end of the movie just feels like the stakes are actually higher, because no one is sure if Megamind can win...
This isn't a parody film. It's one told from a perspective of the villain. How is that the same story over and over? Also, Roxanne being tied up breaks the damsel trope, because she's not screaming for help. She tries to convince Hal that he's still good. Sometimes, I wonder if you just see what you want to in a film.
Is The Incredibles really a superhero parody, per se? It's a comedy, sure, but I think it's more of a twist on the typical superhero formula, and it's a very interesting one. I wouldn't say it parodies superhero tropes that much though.
Megamind is more of a superhero parody than the Incredibles. The Incredibles was just trying to be interesting whilst borrowing elements from pre-existing superhero material, such as the Fantastic 4.
The story was about the blue guy why keep complaining it needs to be about the chick? If you are looking for a different story that's not this films problem.
I don't understand how the critic gives it such a 'meh' rating. This has to be one of my all-time favorite movies. It's fun, I found it funny (though to be honest only very few films make me actually laugh, but I did laugh at this a few times), The plot is probably as original as it gets, the action scenes, while few, are really nice (I love when Megamind goes 'But evil returns with a backhand!' and swats Titan out of the air. How calmly Megamind was in that fight and how smooth the animation was as a result was really great), their use of 80's music really accented the film, and I loved the satire that Metroman was. Like the way he would hold the microphone closer to his face when talking to Megamind, it made it look like half of the way he acted was the put on a show and please the fans, which made him feel more self-aware (as was Megamind) than every other superhero ever.
To be honest, I really loved this movie. Especially the whole "girl ends up falling for the villain" plot point. I would have loved to have seen more of that. The conflicting emotions and moral dilemmas... I think it's really an interesting concept.
Darkvlogs I really love this film too, perhaps a sequel could add onto their relationship? It depends, if it's written right and not full of over foreboding tropes and clichés, a second film could succeed. If not, we'll probably get a bad sequel that will never be as popular as its predecessor.
This movie is so damn good... I just love the hell out of it. It's my #1 favorite 3D animated film (so far) and one of my favorite animated films, period. It's so creative, so inventive, so entertaining, so funny, so heartwarming, so well cast, so well written... DAMMIT, this movie blew me away with how brilliant it was and I still turn into a fangirl as I watch it. More and more people are realizing how great it is and... I kinda don't want a sequel, since it's perfect as is. But I wouldn't object to one if DW said they would make it. If they did it right, it could be good. But I don't think it's necessary. Megamind and Road to El Dorado will always be my favorite DW animated films. Oh, and Spirit, of course. That movie is so powerful.
My reaction to his review: ....Nyeh, I disagree with him in many the same ways as the Incredibles, in that I found the film to be fantastic while he just finds it ok. Nevertheless, I still respect his opinion.
I honestly loved this movie. I was expecting another horribly immature and pitifully slapped together film but instead this film features incredibly charming and relatable characters, and I personally enjoy that there isn't a ton of jokes, nor a ton of drama. I feel that Megamind managed to achieve a very rare, mature ability to balance humor with drama.
+Kyle Uy Hero tries to kill villain to keep people safe once and for all, kidnaps Villan as revenge, Damsel saves the Villain because they feel it's not right.
+Kyle Uy This i a movie I will watch!!! Megamind has to kill the damsel he loves before she kills everyone and he has to live with the guilt :). This is what a call a family film.
+Fraxlevein I'm kinda on the fence with that one. I might want the same thing, but not EXACTLY the same thing! Like Lilo & Stitch or How to Train Your Dragon, it's more on HOW you do it rather than WHAT you do!
this movie could've been generic but I don't think it was its like if the joker kills Batman then tries to take quell the chaos in gotham or if superman wasn't born with his heroic spirit and tells lex luthor He wins and leaves being a hero behind him. And its even more layered because it brings up the debate nature vs nuture which leads to do we control our destiny even if we were meant to play a different role, and is the path we are on currently even the path we were meant to be on? personally I think it was an excellent concept with a good excecution which equals out to at least a great film.
She really never was the damsel in distress because, she was never in distress. You could tell that from her very first time getting captured in the movie she was bored with it, she knew nothing was going to happen and just sat there waiting, while hilariously messing with megamind.
The soundtrack was amazing, many of the flaws that could be perceived actually are just clever writing about the flair for dramatic the characters have, the movies does an excellent job at showing why the main protagonist has a "destiny can't be changed" point of view AND teach him out of it too... I think this movie is really excellent, but it's really easy to overlook its successes and strengths if not complete attention is given to it while watching it.
Jeez. A story revolving around a villain isn't new, Villainous and Invader Zim being examples as well as the Darth Vader comics, but this movie is something else. I don't think anyone has ever touched upon the villain winning then going through an existential crisis type thing before. I couldn't find a full copy of it online but the clips I've seen are pretty good. When I first saw the trailer I thought it would be really stupid but after looking at the brief glimpses I've seen I thought it was interesting.
i personally never cared for the attention despicable me got over this film, while i certainly understand the problems he had with it i do think this film came out on top in that it didnt have to rely on cute tropes much to become popular.
A villain actually defeats his heroic nemesis, and achieves his goal of conquering the city. The villain then loses his will to be evil because he begins to feel that his life just has no purpose or meaning without someone to thwart him. He tries to create a new hero so that he may feel he has purpose again, and it backfires because said hero turns out to be a villain, so now the old villain must become an unlikely hero to stop him. NC: We've seen it over and over again. Where have I been? Has this concept really been done to death and I'm just pop culture illiterate?
I thought the comedic standpoint was awesome. My best friend and I saw this movie together and we were laughing our asses off the entire time in the theater.
+100nitrog Not to mention it wasn't a superhero parody, it was a comic book adaptation. That comic book might've been a parody of superheroes... but still.
I was really surprised at how good this movie is, I mean it's not groundbreaking, but it has some little very funny moments and quite interesting characters, the point is that the trailer made it seem very stupid, it mostly showed lame jokes and made it look like it was just the story of a villain finding love in his heart and therefore becoming good for no reason, and with an uninspired sidekick that's there just to be the cute mascot of the series, without anything relevant to actually say or do. Much of the same feeling the trailer for Despicable Me gave me, the difference is that Despicable Me actually is that way. Only problem I have with this movie is that the characters are actually kind of uninspired. I know they're ganeric heroes and villains, and Superman is the most generic of Superheroes, but come on! They're almost the actual Superman and Lex Luthor! The city is even called Metrocity!
3:33 That would have made a ridiculous and "this is fucking weird, lolwtf?"-moment-filled story. But if you really want to look for a hint of this happening, think of when she reminds Megamind of "that night. I did look back" - without her aide, he would've never located the defuser-gun, and Tighten (lol) would've won.
While it wasn't laugh out loud funny, it was very charming. I especially loved the score and the atmosphere it helped set. I really hope we get a sequel for this movie done by the same folks. It feels like one of those movies made by a bunch of people who sat down, drank some coffee, and just shared a bunch really cool ideas with each other, as opposed to some corporate mess. Heck, it'd be better than a lot of the Drwamworks movies nowadays. Too bad this one had to suffer poor marketing. Oh, well. One day, I hope.
I just hate it when in every animated movie review he says "I was expecting a little more comedy" this is it's own story, not a full parody of superheroes
I actually loved this movie and even though Tina Fey is a bit of a damsel she does actually do a lot of investigation and help Megamind defeat the villain. Also, I think it's funnier than you give it credit for.
To be fair outside of The Incredibles I'm not sure I have seen that many Superhero parodies. I never even watched The Tick. I do remember watching Mystery Men but that was only once and a very long time ago.
Megamind loves the spectacle of his work but realizes its shallow and unrewarding. Metroman loves being loved but has grown tired of being typecast. Roxanne loves being a reporter but has been "Lois Laned:" becoming cynical and nonplussed by the concept of superheroes and villains. After Metroman "dies" she rediscovers her passion for journalism, and her general love for Metroman the flawless icon becomes a personal love for Megamind's flawed-but-trying philosophy.
That's just looking at the surface of the movie! You are completely missing the part about the nature of a character and how what they're expected to do influences their actions! Megamind isn't a bad person, but from a young age he's told that's what he is and so he does bad things to live up to everyone's expectations.In case you didn't notice, no one is even physically hurt Megamind's schemes. The only time people are in danger is when Tighten starts destroying the city. Without power Hal is harmless, with it he is free to do what before he was physically incapable of. Unlike Megamind who is harmless either way. Metroman has the power but doesn't want it. It's a character driven story, not a comedy. Not that there weren't funny moments. It's chocked full of them! But its still not a comedy. If you wanted a comedy, go watch "Despicable Me".
Well, Roxanne doesn't have powers and Titan was romantically in love with her. Of course she's going to be a damsel in distress? How could she be the hero? She's not super smart or even has powers, unless she somehow gets it in the film and that would change everything. I don't think it's that dramatic or serious, I actually thought it was pretty damn funny and there was some silliness in it, even when they fought.
I quite like this movie. It's funny, it's dramatic, and most importantly, I LOVE the 80's rock songs they put in there. I've become a surprising fan of AC-DC and George Thoroughgood thanks to stuff like this (The surprising part is that my radio has always been tuned into country and I still like AC-DC and George Thoroughgood).
i dont really considder the incredibles a parody of superhero movies ,rather just another superhero movie. this is arguably a better movie from a the pont of view of a parody. what makes this work is that its self aware of the tired cliches its exploiting and the steriotypes that make up the cast. the "unfulfilled villan" the self-aware damsel (which id like to point out that i think might be something of a "stand in" for the audiance that is also watching all the nonsens) the hero that just just gives up the "nice guy" with insecurites driven mad with power. and the goofy sidekick
I thought this movie was really intriguing until Megamind makes the superhero serum. He’s and asshole and there’s dreadful scenes of conflict that happen. I thought this movie overall is alright, but like everyone else Megamind’s conflict with having so much power it actually makes him unhappy is really interesting.
To me, the movie was a commentary of the famous philosophical debate of Nature vs. Nurture. It was a question of weather or not mega mind was born to be bad, or weather it was a self-fulfilling proficy because everyone else around him expected him to be bad when he was a kid. Even in the beginning, before his parents sent him away, his father cryptically said "Son, your destine for____________" leaving the question open entirely. Megamind in my opinion was a villain because that's what society wanted out of him, just look how the treated him as a kid. I've never seen a movie do that so effectively before Megamind. It's one of my favorite movies, solely because it asks a question like that.
I put this movie on par with Young Frankenstein, in that it's a parody, but it's not an over-the-top hit-you-over-the-head-with-its-jokes sort of comedy. It's almost (but not quite) serious. I also like that the characters act in a very natural way, all things considered.
I think Megamind was a great first step, but what about a movie where the hero takes it too far and kidnaps the villain to kill him, and the usual female victim sees that this isn't right, and tries to save the villain, then together the damsel and the villain stop the crazed ex-hero?
Can we also appreciate how ahead of his time the villain Titan is? He is the creepy, obsessive incel that most women fear today long before they were known as the incel.
I actually really liked that there's not a whole lot of comedy in the film. Think about it, if superhero parodies are a dime a dozen, wouldn't a ton of jokes just be hackneyed and cliche? I, for one think we need more movies like the Incredibles where you don't see the comedy, but the humanity of super heroes.
I loved Megamind himself. He has some great lines and an inability to pronounce certain words properly (which was a little cheap I admit, but I enjoyed it). Minion was a cute character too and he worked well with Megamind. I will say that the schism between those two was an unnecessary and predictable plot point.
i've never seen a story were the villain defeats the hero at the beginning, goes through an existential phase, decides his life has no meaning without someone to stop him from achieving his goal, creates a super hero out of an everyday guy who turns out to be more of a villain, then the first villain is forced to fight the later one in oeder to save the status quo. If you say we saw that a million time before, i think i'm way out of the loop
Yes!
+Ricado Santos I feel the same way
+Ricado Santos nostalgia critic has always been very assholic against "kid" movies, he always wants to match them with some shit he saw that came years after the movie itself , i can't believe he says Mulan is simplistic and shit like that it is just the way he thinks about kid movies, he has said it before: "what can you expect from a disney movie?" like they were all the same movies, he is only good to review really bad movies and superhero movies , for the rest he is just tooo hipster for them
When did he say Mulan was simplistic? He's not being hipster, he's presenting his genuine opinion. That is a really unfair comment to make about someone who's sharing an opinion in a civil manner.
Ya know...I saw that MvA show and the weirdest thing...insectosaurus was nowhere to be found
Megamind is in my opinion the most underrated dreamworks movie ever
Yeah agree.
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Ikr! And it is so good!
Absolutely. Good characters, great action, and some really clever comic book in-jokes.
Henri Vallée I absolutely agree!
You know what this movie really suffered from? Horrible, horrible marketing.
I saw the trailer in the theater and just rolled my eyes because it looked so stupid, and when I finally decided to watch the thing, I found that it had a lot of heartfelt moments and unique ideas. The trailers didn't really portray what the movie was about, and so it ended up drawing a different crowd than it would have had, and those people probably didn't enjoy as much because of it. It's really a shame that something like Minions draws a crowd, when movies like this, making actual attempts at originality and story, get swept aside.
most Dreamworks trailer in a nutshell
+Huy Bii They are the opposite of Warner Bros' DC.
And the trailers gave away the main twist of the movie.
The problem is, it happened to another great movie, Galaxy Quest. Trailers that screw up the movie.
The movie posters were also awful. I mean, they even modified the main character design (removed the beard) because it wasn't 'marketable' enough!
I honestly thought this was FAAAAAAAAAAR better than any of the Despicable Me movies
I agree! I actually like it significantly more than The Incredibles, too (blasphemy, I know)
Damn straight.
Despicable me = Evan Almighty with minions.
while i enjoyed Despicable Me, i have to say that i agree with you, i thought Mega-mind was much more enjoyable.
Xavior TheLycan Incredibles > Megamind > Despicable Me imo
nothing against NC's opinion of the movie itself... but WOW did he screw up with the chronology.
Megamind pretended to be someone else to be with Roxanne, and when she finds out about that is when she turns him away. she didn't start a romance with him willingly, it was completely accidental. but after that, of course, they wind up working together to stop Titan.
also, the thing with Titan was happening alongside the Roxanne romance. Roxanne turning Megz down isn't the thing that made him create a new superhero, though she did give him the idea early on by accident.
also, i will always say this: Roxanne's character isn't ruined by her damselness! she's a normal human being in situation where superheros and villains are fighting each other. so even though i agree it would have been cool to see her beat those odds and be the hero, her being unable to beat up Titan or whoever is pretty... expected? since she has no powers? i dunno.
My bet is Doug was purposefully not revealing the unique way the romance unfolds in this movie.
Thank you
@@k-leb4671 probably
Megamind, in my opinion, is not only the best Dreamworks production, but one of the best animated feature-length movies EVER. The story is great, and animation fits, the jokes are hilarious, the romance is sweet and believable, the characters are consistent, and the ending it perfect. You can tell through watching it that this was a story that the creators were dying to write, and had a great time making. It truly is an underrated film, and one of my top five favorites.
Megamind isn't a parody, it's a from-the-villains-point-of-view film.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT
YES, SOMEONE SAYS IT.
I thought it was pretty unique, never seen a movie where the villain wins and realizes his life is pointless and the events turn the tables enough for the villain to become the hero...I don't get why he says we've seen it a million times...am I missing something?
TheShanicpower I think it has some parody elements to it though. Like the multiple references to Superman (both the hero and the villain have nearly identical origins to Superman) and just the overall comedic tone
he downplay's the entire movie. saying it was more of the same, when in reality it's different from anything,in that remark incredibles is more like a funny copy of FF.
this is one of the few times DreamWorks got pixar levels of quality. They proved you could have a legitimate drama for children.
This is probably one of my absolute sincere favorite movies from Dreamworks. Critic makes it sound like it's merely an "alright" movie but my word... I had such FUN watching this movie! Just grade A fun!! It was super, super enjoyable!
Sure, if you want to get technical there are "better" Dreamworks movies if you're following the "what constitutes a great movie" formula... but my word, Megamind is some of the most fun I've had watching an animated movie. It's SO underrated and deserves SO much more love!
Couldn't have said it any better. IMO this is one of the better Dreamworks movies next to Shrek and Madagascar (which were both created by the same people that made Megamind BTW so it's no surprise this movie did well).
I can sum up the vibe of why this movie is so friggin fun in a clip roughly thirty seconds long:
“Oh you’re a villain alright. Just not a very super one.”
“Oh YEAH? What’s the difference??”
“PRESENTATION!!!”
and they downplay it in favour of ...
wait for it ....
a Disney movie
To properly describe why I liked this movie so much, I think I'll have to quote the NC himself on what he said about the Emperor's New Groove: the villains are the ones that really made the movie for him.
Well, same for me and Megamind: this villain (ergo the hero lol) is what really made me obsess over this film for a little while (I think I re-watched it like 5 times or so XD). Megamind is one of those characters who are simply enjoyable to watch, regardless of the story they're in. I mean, the story's good too, but that wasn't all there was to it. The protagonist's little overreactions, his expressions, his attitude towards others and his whole dialogue are just so well made I never got tired of him.
Because of this film, I never say "hello" anymore. I always end up saying "ollo", lol.
Same here but no one ever gets it...
Me too! And melahn-choly.
silvertamagachi I never knew how to say melahn-choly anyway
I thought I was the only person who did that as well.
How do you say melahncholy correctly?
One element of this movie I absolutely love, the animation. The facial expressions are fantastic, if somewhat overwrought.
I will never deny this film's faults, however, I absolutely love this film. I think the arc of Megamind himself just appeals to my personal sensibilities greatly.
Haha ok no you don't go around hating on Megamind when you clearly praised the Bee movie
...he said it was good
good isn't enough, this movie is fantastic
AnimeHeart HD I loved Megamind personally, but I will admit it has problems, I'm not going to judge someone for liking it less than me
what are the problems though, I've seen the movie time and time again, I just... can't find any
AnimeHeart HD me neither man. It's awesome
I think the new angle they took here was the ."nice guy syndrome" angle which isn't very common. The villain, yes does have powers, but he's a REAL villain. Like the assholes you see on the news. He treats Roxanne like a real fucking person like she is then expects her to date him. Then he tries to kill her for rejecting him. This is real shit that you see on the news. Men raping and murdering women for rejecting them. All this movie really did was make it more appropriate for children. And Megamind is very respectful. He accepts that Roxanne isn't interested. He doesn't force himself on her. He actually does treat her like a human and doesn't expect anything in return. This movie was way deeper than a lot of people give it credit for.
Emily Jessup this is very true. And on top of that, not every “superhero” is selfless and righteous.
Yes! This is my favorite thing about Megamind. There's an alien genius supervillain around, but the actual bad guy turns out to be the female lead's creepy co-worker who won't take no for an answer . . . that's actually pretty revolutionary.
Emily Nelson I agree as well. It also has a emphasis on "nature vs nurture"! When comparing who megamind and metro-man came to be initially by illustrating the environments they were both raised in and how initially the bad guy just wants to be liked, but not being accepted by his peers influenced who he becomes just like in REAL LIFE!
Everything you said was made on the movie Chronicle. And Spiderman 3
Every Dreamworks movie has unique character designs- not just princess/ prince re-written H.C Andersen/ Hamlet copies.
Sometimes the main character can be horse, ogre, fat panda, viking...the most unlikely concept turns out to big hit with smaller team less assets and smaller budget.
Disney does what it's good at, but often lacks of originality.
Tiia Kahila I dunno... this movie has almost the exact same art style as Monsters vs Aliens
@@ethanphilpot7643 When I was real young I would get confused by the two. Like look at MvA's villian and look at Bigcranium...I mean Megamind.
You know, Monsters vs. Aliens got a TV series, How to Train Your Dragon got one, Kung Fu Panda got one, why, out of all the Dreamworks movies, did this one never get a series? I would've loved to have seen a continuation of those as a TV series.
+Dee Twenty Not enough marketable characters for a TV series (toys, etc).
Love Monsters vs. Aliens didn't have that many either, though, the chick, the fish guy, the Mothra knockoff, the blob, and the roach versus Minion, Megamind, and Metroman, plus the rogue's gallery they'd have to come up with for Megamind to fight.
monsters didnt get a tv series, but it did get a halloween special.
Home got a Netflix series! WTF!!! I hardly know anyone who knows that movie exists!
The marketing was terrible, and usually the continuations usually suck, and i don't really know if they should even make a sequel, just in case it might be worse, and might spoil my love for the first
Megamind is my favourite film by Dreamworks, I underestimated the film but tried it for a friend and I enjoyed it.
I love how the story tries to portray destiny, and if destiny is a choice or it's something you are summoned to do.
As for Tina Fey's character. It's not a bad thing she's the damsel again. It's no degradation on her character because her character. The writers even said they needed a straight man between Megamind and Metro Man's ridiculous stunts. She's that stable character who's ok with herself. It's Megamind who needs to go through the change in character. Therefore it makes sense that in the climax of the film he is forced to care about someone other than himself and save her.
I... really cannot understand this review. Were we watching the same movie? "Seen this before." Uh, okay, when? Where? Show me a film where the villain wins? One where he realizes the chase was his reason to exist? Where he becomes the hero?
Megamind was fantastic. I took my two little nieces to see it and they laughed... and I laughed - A LOT. It was hilarious and inventive. Nothing felt forced or fake. The only crime was marketing failed it miserably and it feels like a film that is great, buuut very few people were even aware of.
Making the woman the hero? You are aware the film is called "Megamind" right? It's about Megamind and his journey, not some boring girl-power movie that will have you believing women suplex men and pee standing up, but choose not to.
+Larry Wolf • I think the reason it can to some 'feel' like a cliché story is because of the Anti-Hero Trope. Something that is quite common, but in those situations we're not talking about an all-out Villain; merely someone who isn't a Heroic but has their abilities. • There is also another common trope of the "Last Minute Switch", where a Villain has a change of heart to help the Hero(es) but those are always left-field more Deus Ex Machinima because the writer can't figure out a 'Happy Ending' rather than good story telling. • Even if we look at Despicable Me, which is a similar concept of a Super Villain turned Hero... that occurs not because he wants to be a 'Hero" but rather in the first movie is entirely accidental, and in the second it's to both impress his daughters (who he wants to be proud of him) and proving that he's still "The Best" regardless which side he's on. • Megamind is a very different story to all of these. Sure it relies on the Superman Trope from which it is clearly parodying but Megamind himself never WANTED to be Evil or a Super Villain; rather it is merely a life that chose him, and rapidly becomes the only life he ever knew. Sure, he's terrible at it; but it's because he's actually good hearted and just lonely rather than a selfish jerk. • What ends up cool is the message, of being "True to yourself, not Societies Expectations... only then can you achieve happiness." - soppy and fortune cookie as it might be, it's still a good message for Kids and Adults; and a staple of DreamWorks Animated Films.
+Larry Wolf a movie where the bad guy wins? Doctor Horrible's Sing-a-long blog. The Superhero is constantly defeating the villian (who in the end is a good person) until the he actually wins causing the superhero to go through some life-altering change. but then realizes he, the villian, feels hollow because his purpose was fighting captian hammer and trying to win the girl. once penny dies and hammer is out of the way, he relishes in the victory for a little while but its heavily implied by the last shot that he regrets it all.
Many Batman stories have the "chase is the reason to exist" many villain stories have the "society created them" and they have redemption at the end like the kid in Deadpool 2 and many X-Men characters actually. A lot of superheroes movies have empowered women.
I just don't get how the "Damsel in Distress" trope, even HERE gets criticized.
Here actually did something different, considering that in the beginning when she was in distress, she's all snarky and sarcastic about it because she doesn't perceive herself in any real danger. It's because she KNOWS that Metro-Man is always going to save her...until the first time when he doesn't.
Then we get a new villain who actually has powers, the hero is no where to be found, and the only guy who is available to stop the rampaging bad-guy, is the former-bad-guy who actually hasn't had a single legitimate victory against a super-being at all.
The end of the movie just feels like the stakes are actually higher, because no one is sure if Megamind can win...
So they subvert the damsel in distress trope but putting her in more distress.
The first time I saw this movie I nearly wet my pants on the spot when it came to the "forget-me stick". XD
This isn't a parody film. It's one told from a perspective of the villain. How is that the same story over and over? Also, Roxanne being tied up breaks the damsel trope, because she's not screaming for help. She tries to convince Hal that he's still good. Sometimes, I wonder if you just see what you want to in a film.
Linkara said it best when he reviewed the movie, its a Deconstruction
Honestly the only thing that strikes an even remotely similar vibe for me is some of the Venture Bros moments.
Is The Incredibles really a superhero parody, per se? It's a comedy, sure, but I think it's more of a twist on the typical superhero formula, and it's a very interesting one. I wouldn't say it parodies superhero tropes that much though.
kchandaman True
Megamind is more of a superhero parody than the Incredibles. The Incredibles was just trying to be interesting whilst borrowing elements from pre-existing superhero material, such as the Fantastic 4.
The story was about the blue guy why keep complaining it needs to be about the chick? If you are looking for a different story that's not this films problem.
I don't understand how the critic gives it such a 'meh' rating.
This has to be one of my all-time favorite movies. It's fun, I found it funny (though to be honest only very few films make me actually laugh, but I did laugh at this a few times), The plot is probably as original as it gets, the action scenes, while few, are really nice (I love when Megamind goes 'But evil returns with a backhand!' and swats Titan out of the air. How calmly Megamind was in that fight and how smooth the animation was as a result was really great), their use of 80's music really accented the film, and I loved the satire that Metroman was. Like the way he would hold the microphone closer to his face when talking to Megamind, it made it look like half of the way he acted was the put on a show and please the fans, which made him feel more self-aware (as was Megamind) than every other superhero ever.
To be honest, I really loved this movie. Especially the whole "girl ends up falling for the villain" plot point. I would have loved to have seen more of that. The conflicting emotions and moral dilemmas... I think it's really an interesting concept.
Darkvlogs I really love this film too, perhaps a sequel could add onto their relationship? It depends, if it's written right and not full of over foreboding tropes and clichés, a second film could succeed.
If not, we'll probably get a bad sequel that will never be as popular as its predecessor.
Darkvlogs same
This movie was GREAT!!!
It was so funny and likable!! It was just so
charming.There's no way I could dislike it.
Was a better Superman movie than Man of Steel
reptomicus there's another animated movie that it's better than man of steel, and his name is Superman vs the elite
Nah both movies are completely different
This movie is so damn good... I just love the hell out of it. It's my #1 favorite 3D animated film (so far) and one of my favorite animated films, period. It's so creative, so inventive, so entertaining, so funny, so heartwarming, so well cast, so well written... DAMMIT, this movie blew me away with how brilliant it was and I still turn into a fangirl as I watch it. More and more people are realizing how great it is and... I kinda don't want a sequel, since it's perfect as is. But I wouldn't object to one if DW said they would make it. If they did it right, it could be good. But I don't think it's necessary.
Megamind and Road to El Dorado will always be my favorite DW animated films. Oh, and Spirit, of course. That movie is so powerful.
My reaction to his review:
....Nyeh, I disagree with him in many the same ways as the Incredibles, in that I found the film to be fantastic while he just finds it ok. Nevertheless, I still respect his opinion.
I feel that megamind is a underrated classic.
I honestly loved this movie. I was expecting another horribly immature and pitifully slapped together film but instead this film features incredibly charming and relatable characters, and I personally enjoy that there isn't a ton of jokes, nor a ton of drama. I feel that Megamind managed to achieve a very rare, mature ability to balance humor with drama.
if the damsel turned evil or the hero how would they make that? And would seem a bit out of nowhere if that happened
+Kyle Uy Hero tries to kill villain to keep people safe once and for all, kidnaps Villan as revenge, Damsel saves the Villain because they feel it's not right.
+Kyle Uy batman under the red hood maybe
+Kyle Uy MegaMind originally tried to make the damsel the superhero but failed, perhaps he could try giving her the powers again.
+Kyle Uy This i a movie I will watch!!! Megamind has to kill the damsel he loves before she kills everyone and he has to live with the guilt :). This is what a call a family film.
Maybe Megamind gets captured and Roxanne has to save him?
It's called Megamind, not Mega Roxie so making her the hero would make zero sense.
"You're a villain, alright! Just not a super one!"
"Yeah? What's the difference?"
*"PRESENTATION!"*
Megamind is AMAZING!!!! So underrated!
Most of the time, i'm not bothered by stuff that's been done before.
If you like something, why wouldn't you want it again?
+Fraxlevein I'm kinda on the fence with that one. I might want the same thing, but not EXACTLY the same thing!
Like Lilo & Stitch or How to Train Your Dragon, it's more on HOW you do it rather than WHAT you do!
10 years later this guy watched the same superheroe movie over and over.
My favorite moments of this movie was the dramatic parts.
This is for space-mom!
this movie could've been generic but I don't think it was
its like if the joker kills Batman then tries to take quell the chaos in gotham
or if superman wasn't born with his heroic spirit and tells lex luthor He wins and leaves being a hero behind him.
And its even more layered because it brings up the debate nature vs nuture which leads to do we control our destiny even if we were meant to play a different role, and is the path we are on currently even the path we were meant to be on?
personally I think it was an excellent concept with a good excecution which equals out to at least a great film.
She really never was the damsel in distress because, she was never in distress. You could tell that from her very first time getting captured in the movie she was bored with it, she knew nothing was going to happen and just sat there waiting, while hilariously messing with megamind.
But it can easily be re-heated, in the microwave of evil!
SirKirbyThe4th well I think your warenty is about to expire!
But I have an extended warranty!
SirKirbyThe4th warranties are invalid if you don't use the product for its intended purpose!!
Girls, girls, you're both pretty!
Midnight Sonnet Can I go home now?
The soundtrack was amazing, many of the flaws that could be perceived actually are just clever writing about the flair for dramatic the characters have, the movies does an excellent job at showing why the main protagonist has a "destiny can't be changed" point of view AND teach him out of it too... I think this movie is really excellent, but it's really easy to overlook its successes and strengths if not complete attention is given to it while watching it.
Jeez. A story revolving around a villain isn't new, Villainous and Invader Zim being examples as well as the Darth Vader comics, but this movie is something else. I don't think anyone has ever touched upon the villain winning then going through an existential crisis type thing before. I couldn't find a full copy of it online but the clips I've seen are pretty good. When I first saw the trailer I thought it would be really stupid but after looking at the brief glimpses I've seen I thought it was interesting.
i personally never cared for the attention despicable me got over this film, while i certainly understand the problems he had with it i do think this film came out on top in that it didnt have to rely on cute tropes much to become popular.
If Doug is talking about a satire of superheroes, I would really like to see react to One-Punch Man
A villain actually defeats his heroic nemesis, and achieves his goal of conquering the city. The villain then loses his will to be evil because he begins to feel that his life just has no purpose or meaning without someone to thwart him. He tries to create a new hero so that he may feel he has purpose again, and it backfires because said hero turns out to be a villain, so now the old villain must become an unlikely hero to stop him.
NC: We've seen it over and over again.
Where have I been? Has this concept really been done to death and I'm just pop culture illiterate?
I found this when I searched up "Sparkle Sparkle Sparkle!"
This and Rise of the Guardians are highly underrated DreamWorks classics and are my favorite movies by DreamWorks.
I thought the comedic standpoint was awesome. My best friend and I saw this movie together and we were laughing our asses off the entire time in the theater.
I thought there were a lot of jokes...
to be honest i like both this movie and despicable me
Despicable Me 1,2 was funny and cute while Megamind was more dramatic in romance. Loved both
How dare he...Mystery Men is awesome. I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines.
i want to watch it just to get that reference.
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+100nitrog Not to mention it wasn't a superhero parody, it was a comic book adaptation. That comic book might've been a parody of superheroes... but still.
+100nitrog looks like tonight the lone wolf rides alone, ben stiller was great in that movie
Mystery Men is awesome
YES
I was really surprised at how good this movie is, I mean it's not groundbreaking, but it has some little very funny moments and quite interesting characters, the point is that the trailer made it seem very stupid, it mostly showed lame jokes and made it look like it was just the story of a villain finding love in his heart and therefore becoming good for no reason, and with an uninspired sidekick that's there just to be the cute mascot of the series, without anything relevant to actually say or do. Much of the same feeling the trailer for Despicable Me gave me, the difference is that Despicable Me actually is that way.
Only problem I have with this movie is that the characters are actually kind of uninspired. I know they're ganeric heroes and villains, and Superman is the most generic of Superheroes, but come on! They're almost the actual Superman and Lex Luthor! The city is even called Metrocity!
. . . You know that the whole Superman thing was intentional, right?
Who knows now that Comcast owns Dreamworks, maybe they might bring Megamind back as a crossover movie with Despicable Me. I'd be fine with that.
I will love this movie forever.
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That would have made a ridiculous and "this is fucking weird, lolwtf?"-moment-filled story.
But if you really want to look for a hint of this happening, think of when she reminds Megamind of "that night. I did look back" - without her aide, he would've never located the defuser-gun, and Tighten (lol) would've won.
I wish this had a sequel.
While it wasn't laugh out loud funny, it was very charming. I especially loved the score and the atmosphere it helped set. I really hope we get a sequel for this movie done by the same folks. It feels like one of those movies made by a bunch of people who sat down, drank some coffee, and just shared a bunch really cool ideas with each other, as opposed to some corporate mess.
Heck, it'd be better than a lot of the Drwamworks movies nowadays. Too bad this one had to suffer poor marketing. Oh, well. One day, I hope.
I just hate it when in every animated movie review he says "I was expecting a little more comedy" this is it's own story, not a full parody of superheroes
this movie has an amazing soundtrack! AC/DC, guns and roses, it's brilliant!
I actually loved this movie and even though Tina Fey is a bit of a damsel she does actually do a lot of investigation and help Megamind defeat the villain.
Also, I think it's funnier than you give it credit for.
To be fair outside of The Incredibles I'm not sure I have seen that many Superhero parodies. I never even watched The Tick. I do remember watching Mystery Men but that was only once and a very long time ago.
this movie seems more original than big hero 6 why did this made half of what big hero 6 did? probably since this is dreamworks & the other is disney
more original than even Incredibles, a parody of Fantastic Four.
@@darkwolf1202 it's not a parody of fantastic 4. it's more of a mix of fantastic 4 & watchmen
This is actually one of me favourite movies 😀
Megamind loves the spectacle of his work but realizes its shallow and unrewarding. Metroman loves being loved but has grown tired of being typecast. Roxanne loves being a reporter but has been "Lois Laned:" becoming cynical and nonplussed by the concept of superheroes and villains. After Metroman "dies" she rediscovers her passion for journalism, and her general love for Metroman the flawless icon becomes a personal love for Megamind's flawed-but-trying philosophy.
This movie had the Zimmer.
And i was incredibly ok with that.
PRESENTATION!!!
honestly. Best entrance ever :)
@Thomas Penner actually at the very end Bernard pops up in the laundry cause Megamind forgot to take him out of his pocket xD
That's just looking at the surface of the movie! You are completely missing the part about the nature of a character and how what they're expected to do influences their actions! Megamind isn't a bad person, but from a young age he's told that's what he is and so he does bad things to live up to everyone's expectations.In case you didn't notice, no one is even physically hurt Megamind's schemes. The only time people are in danger is when Tighten starts destroying the city. Without power Hal is harmless, with it he is free to do what before he was physically incapable of. Unlike Megamind who is harmless either way. Metroman has the power but doesn't want it. It's a character driven story, not a comedy. Not that there weren't funny moments. It's chocked full of them! But its still not a comedy. If you wanted a comedy, go watch "Despicable Me".
Well, Roxanne doesn't have powers and Titan was romantically in love with her. Of course she's going to be a damsel in distress? How could she be the hero? She's not super smart or even has powers, unless she somehow gets it in the film and that would change everything. I don't think it's that dramatic or serious, I actually thought it was pretty damn funny and there was some silliness in it, even when they fought.
I thought the movie had plenty of jokes in it.
i wanna watch this again
The genius is of this movie is unfathomable...unfathomabuhhhh...it’s without fathom
This movie is a masterpiece.
I love Megamind! it's one of DreamWorks' greatest movies.
The animation in this movie was perfect
I quite like this movie. It's funny, it's dramatic, and most importantly, I LOVE the 80's rock songs they put in there. I've become a surprising fan of AC-DC and George Thoroughgood thanks to stuff like this (The surprising part is that my radio has always been tuned into country and I still like AC-DC and George Thoroughgood).
i dont really considder the incredibles a parody of superhero movies ,rather just another superhero movie.
this is arguably a better movie from a the pont of view of a parody.
what makes this work is that its self aware of the tired cliches its exploiting and the steriotypes that make up the cast.
the "unfulfilled villan"
the self-aware damsel (which id like to point out that i think might be something of a "stand in" for the audiance that is also watching all the nonsens)
the hero that just just gives up
the "nice guy" with insecurites driven mad with power.
and the goofy sidekick
I thought this movie was really intriguing until Megamind makes the superhero serum. He’s and asshole and there’s dreadful scenes of conflict that happen. I thought this movie overall is alright, but like everyone else Megamind’s conflict with having so much power it actually makes him unhappy is really interesting.
To me, the movie was a commentary of the famous philosophical debate of Nature vs. Nurture. It was a question of weather or not mega mind was born to be bad, or weather it was a self-fulfilling proficy because everyone else around him expected him to be bad when he was a kid. Even in the beginning, before his parents sent him away, his father cryptically said "Son, your destine for____________" leaving the question open entirely. Megamind in my opinion was a villain because that's what society wanted out of him, just look how the treated him as a kid. I've never seen a movie do that so effectively before Megamind. It's one of my favorite movies, solely because it asks a question like that.
I love this movie personally. I much prefer it over Despicable Me.
I loved this movie when it came out. And the theme of choosing to be a hero is all that matters was brilliant.
I love the moment when Tina Fey’s Character Says “Lets Hold Some Ray Guns Hold Them Sideways And Go all GANGSTA on Him!!”
I put this movie on par with Young Frankenstein, in that it's a parody, but it's not an over-the-top hit-you-over-the-head-with-its-jokes sort of comedy. It's almost (but not quite) serious. I also like that the characters act in a very natural way, all things considered.
Why is the video so crusty?
I think Megamind was a great first step, but what about a movie where the hero takes it too far and kidnaps the villain to kill him, and the usual female victim sees that this isn't right, and tries to save the villain, then together the damsel and the villain stop the crazed ex-hero?
hey that sounds like a good plot (I'd read a megamind AU for that any day tbh)
AnimeHeart HD I'll start working on something :)
At Least He Does Not Hate The Movie
Can we also appreciate how ahead of his time the villain Titan is? He is the creepy, obsessive incel that most women fear today long before they were known as the incel.
Incel? Lmao.
He is a simp, incels hate women
I actually liked Mystery Men, I thought it was pretty funny. Still if you did a review of it I would still watch.
I actually really liked that there's not a whole lot of comedy in the film. Think about it, if superhero parodies are a dime a dozen, wouldn't a ton of jokes just be hackneyed and cliche? I, for one think we need more movies like the Incredibles where you don't see the comedy, but the humanity of super heroes.
I'll take Jeremy Jahns review over this oblivious shit.
Oh god the frame rate! It burns my eyes!
Jerod Wolf
MY EYEEESSS
It came out the same year as Despicable Me
Best soundtrack on a Dreamworks movies
You know this is a REALLY old video when the critic says Megamind is a 'decent' film.
I loved Megamind himself. He has some great lines and an inability to pronounce certain words properly (which was a little cheap I admit, but I enjoyed it). Minion was a cute character too and he worked well with Megamind. I will say that the schism between those two was an unnecessary and predictable plot point.