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Love your videos. How about testing new winter tires vs 5+ year old tires, or nearly new vs 5+ year old tires with similar tread wear? Hard to test exactly, but would be interesting to see how tires perform as they age. Also how old to let tires get before you change, even if they have good tread life.
Wished you would do a review for what's the best winter tire for RWD vehicles. What's rated best for FWD and AWD cars are not what's necessary good for RWD cars as when I first got my 2016 Mustang GT thinking buying the X-Ice Xi3's was the best option because it was the #1 tire back then but those tires were very unsafe to drive in and it ended up being the Blizzak WS80's being the life saver, now the WS90's are out. It's not the best with fuel consumption and connering but when you're driving in Canadian weather, it's better to drive safe than fast!
My son is getting his driving permit and we watch your channel together. I keep telling him the only thing holding your 3,000lb vehicle to the road is a couple inches of rubber. Tire selection makes all the difference in safety. You can have all the blind spot warning, lane assist, automatic braking, AWD you want. If your tires don't hold you to the ground....all that stuff doesn't matter. Keep up the great work!!!
This, is precisely why EVERY SINGLE YEAR on the first snow storm, we have dozens of fancy expensive SUVs in the ditches, because people forget that every mechanical aid and nanny in the world can't defeat the awesome power of the moron doing the piloting. Don't drive above your skill, don't drive faster than you can stop.
@@codincoman9019 I can actually agree and disagree with you, within my own fleet of vehicles. :D One car has summer only tires, but it gets put away in the late fall anyways so it never sees cold/snow or even rain mostly. Another is driven year round, but doesn't generally go out in snow, it just might get caught on a smaller storm, so it has good all seasons. The last gets studded snows put on it, as it does plowing duties in the winter, and has appropriate all season off-road capable tires on it the rest of the year.
Being a tyre geek myself, every kind of test and comparison I have ever imagined and wished it existed, this channel has it:D Cant thank you enough man!:)
It would be interesting to see a test between All Seasons and Winter tyres on slushy snow surfaces, rather than the more usual tested dry compacted snow.
Forever I will remember the day when my daughter’s friend was being dropped off at my home during the winter via her father in a 20 year old subcompact. I was shoveling the driveway when they arrived, and he began lamenting road slipperiness due to the snow. I then gave him my winter tire endorsement, same as I do to anyone who will listen. I worked in the automotive industry for 30 years and was involved in the association meetings where they debated the “how old is too old to keep driving on your tires” topic, for instance. Not two weeks after my conversation, he lost control on a curve and was broadsided by a truck. RIP my daughter’s best friend Rosie. How tragic. Winter tires likely would have prevented this tragedy.
I got the crossclimates for my Alfa in November when temperatures dropped & my Pilot sport 4S just stopped working. Really good in cold wet conditions, snow was lacking this year but one morning driving home was overtaking multiple vehicles travelling very slowly & was finding tons of grip on what was fresh overnight snow. Ive run with pure winter tyres in the past & the crossclimates feel their equal IMO but as I've said we haven't had a hard winter for a few years. Put about 4000miles on them over winter & don't seem to have worn very much. Where the pilot sports I'm lucky to get 8000 out of them as I change them at around 3.5-4mm as performance wet & dry drops of sharply at these tread depths (8mm new) Ps I'm on very good terms with the lads at local tyre fitters!
I have a set of 245/50 Hankook Kinergy 4S2's on a 2023 Mazda CX50. They were perfect during summer temps of +30 degrees C and they saw their first snow and ice and -25 degrees this week. At -25, on dry pavement and on snow, these tires provide amazing grip. Enough for me to not be missing a set of winter's. It's only on Ice where they struggle a bit... They still provide enough grip to keep you safe at city speeds and has enough traction to get you going. My wife has a set of Bridgestone Turanza all season tires, and they are just plain dangerous on ANY amount of snow. She is running a set of Nordic winters as her second set, given how bad the traditional AS is. I will reserve my final judgement on what we call all weather tires in Canada, till I have driven the Hankooks in -40...
After watching videos from several channels and looking through your website, I have purchased a set of Michelin CrossClimate 2s for my M240i to get me through the dreary North West UK winters. Last year I got stuck in less than half an inch of snow coming home from a night shift and had to sleep on the back seat for a couple of hours while waiting for the snow to clear up. Hopefully the CrossClimates are going to get me home where my Michelin Pilot Super Sports couldn't. Thanks a lot for all detailed information you have provided!
I have driven in a solid 2-3 inches of show covering the road last winter in Belgrade, -6C at the time, in my Megane 3 with CrossClimate 2 tires. I had zero issues moving about, but the snow was supper wet so I had to creep at a max of 30-40km/h in the city. Any faster and the rear end would start to slip when braking.
I would like to see a test of a new all season/winter tyres against the same tyre half worn .Possibly adding in a fully worn tyre but still legal tyre. Just be interesting to see if the grip reduces in a linear way or not !
That was probably the best description of the differences between them in the snow breaking 😂 " From that to that to oh my god that's a huge accident" 🤣🤣🤣 6:27
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-90 and DM-V2 are probably the most popular winter tires in the US. We would love to see you test them. Keep up the great work!!!
My Toyota Sienna has a extra set of OEM rims with WS-90 and my RAV4 V6 has a extra set of OEM rims with the DM-V2. People in the Northwest of the US believe 4x4/AWD means winter readiness and when I drive to the mountains 90% of the time those are the types spun out in the ditch.
I have the Blizzak WS90 on my VW GTI and I can’t even tell you how excellent it is on fresh snow, days old snow, ice, and even 3-4 inches of snow. Saved my butt 3 times at least in the 400 miles I’ve been running it. I live in a mountainous alpine region and my own neighborhood is hilly as hell.
I wonder how newer Toyo GS-i 6 and new Nokia fares against them. They lasted a bit longer than WS-80. My sis, living in Sacramento area put a set of Cooper Discoverer True North on her 2015 Tacoma and side wall on both front tires disintegrated at the end of the season, leaving her stranded on Rd. 88. I'm so disappointed, and her being furious. Cooper Tires never again.
Just coming up for my 3rd winter in a European country that mandates winter tyres from mid November to mid March, I opted for all seasons because having 2 sets seemed lots of faff and added costs. No regrets so far, I’ve experienced so little snow that I’ve not needed good snow performance but the cold wet performance is great, during summer I’ve had no issues although it’s obvious the performance is not up to the standard of a summer tyre.
@@RaduB. about 8 years ago we went from summer continentals to the original cross climate michellins. i have to say, at least for that switch the michellin delivered better in everything. (the continentals i think were premium ecocontact or something like that, in theory delivering fuel economy. with very conservative driving they gave just 40k km and about 3+ years) the michellins after that went for over 90k km, over 5years and had at least 40% thread remaining, but were changed due to age for an upcoming yearly inspection. the michellin brought a lot more comfort. way better handling, quiter rider on higher speeds way less vibrations (the continentals went through extensive checks for balancing and still above 150 kph too much vibrations after 3 years. the michellins at 5 years old were still perfect at 190kph) actually brought a barely noticeable 2-5% fuel consumption decrease braking performance increased amazingly and they obviously made the car capable of driving in wet or fresh snow (not possible with summers) so dont be afraid of all seasons, if you choose a good tyre that matches your needs and wants it should still deliver sufficiently for you
@@codincoman9019 it was supposed to be the best fuel efficiency premium summer tyre back then and it was supposed to deliver (at least) some performance too. It wasn't a cheap summer eco tyre compared to the beat all season. Also the comparison is just the personal experience (and why we stayed with cross climate ever since) It is not a scientific study comparison. And btw on my personal car, which is about 450kg lighter than the family car, with a bit more power I have some fairly cheap (in theory) performance-like summer tyres. The michellins still deliver equal or better, but that's a comparison I know is not to be made due to the different tiers of tyre quality, and why I didn't put it in the original comment.
Please start a Patreon! I understand the awkwardness of it. But I would love to see more frequent testing. Especially expensive test like wear. I would absolutely contribute, perhaps others might too.
Thanks, I've actually been considering that recently, I setup thanks on youtube and started the youtube version of patron but it's not a nice system so gave up. I'll look into it over xmas
I have had the cross climate 2s on my golf for just over 2 years now and I absolutely love them. I never thought all seasons could be this good. I have x ice for the winter but this year I’m almost debating whether it’s even worth putting them on. I love how the cross climates handle in the dry. The on center feel is better.
More confirmation that the Cross Climate is the tire for me, and has been working great the last few years. Living inland in the NW USA, we don't see much rain at all. We go from stupid hot summer to cold winter with occasional snow/ice. Its good to know that the Michelin CC isn't the best in the rain, that lets me temper my driving a bit there. But having the dry performance with the occasional snow needs... love it. Currently have them on two of three vehicles. Related to that, how about a testing of all-weather and snow for truck/suv sizes? I have the CC on our RAM Promaster (same as Fiat Ducato), and love it there. Curious if the brand differences show up similarly in that tire market as the passenger vehicles.
I like the Cross Climate also and happy to see the results. Not a good Seattle tire due to rain braking but I’ve since moved to Salt lake and it’s ideal for this climate.
CC would be great for me but I wear tires fast and I hear the CC wears quickly. I would probably get a year and a few months out of them. I'm leaning towards Bridgestone Weatherpeak. It's in the negatives F here today. It's supposed to be 55 degrees F on 1/23. Still got Viking Contact on my car. 8,000 miles roughly with 6/32 left.
Not sure if you've done this already but would love to see a similar comparison using all-terrain/M+S tires for pick-ups/SUVs. For example, the Goodyear Duratrac is a winter rated, M+S, AT tire and I've personally found it to be the best do-it-all tire I've ever used. I'm curious to see how it stacks up to modern competition as well as dedicated winter tires. And does having the mountain-snowflake symbol make it a winter tire or just a winter capable tire?
So much valuable Information here! My takeaway message is, in southern Germany, it makes sense to get an all-season tyre for the winter months instead of winter tyres (if your new car was already delivered on summer tyres during spring/summer) because they seem to be better in the dry and still good wet compared to winter tyres.
Your excellent, scientific experiment oriented videos led me to think analytically about the distribution over road conditions I experience in New England and make a winter tire choice more cognizant of the tradeoffs. They also got me experimenting with different bicycle tires (where it's a lot cheaper to be a tire nerd :P)!
@@tyrereviews Driving with a young family, I wanted the extra performance and safety margin that comes from a dedicated winter tire if I encountered winter conditions. I also don't HAVE to be out in the worst winter storms or icing conditions, the roads get cleared here, and hence I would rarely encounter situations where a Nordic winter tire was best. I went with the Michelin Alpin 5: strong results in the dry, sporty if by myself, but also good performance all around in case I need to safely get through anything else (including up to the ski slopes). For bicycle tires, I got the Continental Top Contact Winter II for winter bike commuting. It appears to be unique as a studless winter bicycle tire.
@@fortinbras47 I used to run the Alpins, but after experiencing periods of the year where temperatures kept dipping below and rising above the 7C tire crossover temperature, I ended up moving to the Cross climate 2s :s (And some summer tires for going to the race track when it's the middle of summer)
I love the Vredenstein Quatrac Pros on my 2005 Subaru Outback. I wanted to get the top rated Cross Climate2s, but they did(do?) not make them in my car's size in the U.S. Now that I've experienced the Quatrac Pros superior wet braking and handling first hand, I would buy them again. I'm glad to see that the test results confirm my "seat of the pants" feeling about these tires. And since I live and drive in areas where there's not too often heavy snow/ice, they are perfect for my more mild wintry conditions. With the bonus that during heavy summer rains the car handles brilliantly. Also they are pretty cushy for highway cruising in the standard 16 inch size that my car requires. That said, you can feel the squishy sidewalls in hard cornering and that took a few drives to get used to, and I lost about 1 mpg in fuel mileage over the all seasons I had on before. But, that's not why I bought these tires. I'll gladly sacrifice a bit of mileage and dry weather at the limits handling for secure foul weather performance.
I'm with you Marc. In the dry, I just don't push the car - I'm very far "inside the performance envelope" of any tire, all the time (barring emergencies, etc). Normal driving in the wet is a different story; I spend much more time closer to the traction limits - so that's where I want the extra "cushion". In snow/ice, "normal driving" is everyone very nearly at the traction limit, all the time. But fortunately I don't see snow in my area. The Quatracs are tops on my list, when the time comes.
You definitely can't beat two sets of wheels and tyres. The extra safety the Michelin CC+ brings over my Goodyear Supersport's in the British winter is definitely worth it, especially after a few trackdays the wet weather performance drops off quite a bit.
Great info Something else that should be discussed is tire pressure. Correct psi on winter tires is very important for grip. I own a powerful rear wheel drive vehicle running snow tires for winter conditions here in Canada. Recently found the car slipping a bit on wet roads at around 2 degrees celsius. Checked the psi all four corners 4 psi higher than I like, 34vs 30. Brought all tires to 30, problem solved. Glad I checked.
I've put ~20,000 miles on Michelin CC2s on a Honda Pilot. For the Mid-Atlantic United States, it's a very good tire. Our winters are too mild for dedicated winter tires. Our snow almost always falls as a wet snow and we rarely go three consecutive days below freezing. It's awful stuff and the CC2s do well enough that I can drive if I must.
I love these videos! I have run Goodyear Vector 4seasons Gen 3 on my All4 Mini Countryman S for the past year and they are fantastic. I am thinking about two sets, though. Saying that, Scottish weather is quite unpredictable and often get four seasons in one day!
I put Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons gen3 on my Octavia 4x4. I live in the Yorkshire Dales and you have to be prepared for anything, any time, including almost no snow for the last ten years. I really like them and they have lasted well over three years. I have no problem with the handling which is little different at legal speeds. I certainly intend to buy them again, you are just "covered" whatever happens.
Probably the best all season tire . Just take it easy on the wet only down side is wet handling . Braking in the wet is actually good just gotta watch those turns .
Coming from Canada I’m used to having winter tires on in the winter. But…, living in Southern Ohio yes we get snow, but we also get wet in the winter. When I replaced my OEM tires (18” wheels) I put performance summer tires on. I have 17” wheels that had Michelin x-ice 3 for 10 years on them. Last fall I replaced them with cross climate 2 for my “winter” tires.
I needed 3 peak rated tires in order to take my 2017 Toyota C-HR into the French Alps last winter. I watched your videos & also read loads of reviews. I went with the latest Goodyear Vector All seasons as they were available in required 18inch size & fitted the bill. They have been brilliant & I’m very pleased with them and have found them to be very good all year round as living in South East England we don’t see much extreme snow! I know my car is not a performance car, but it does handle well & I do enjoy throwing it round the bends & these tires are superb in both wet & dry. I do think that they may have dropped my mpg a teeny weeny tiny amount but it’s worth it because car feels so secure in cold & wet.
I swapped out my oversized PZ4 * on my 328i Xdrive and put on stock sized Cross Climate 2’s as my fall/winter tire. In Alberta, Canada we get lots of snow and can hit -40, but there are times when it warms up and roads can get icy yet slushy . I sold my X-Ice Xi3’s because they were great for ice handling but horrible for feel and deep snow. The CC2 so far this season have been amazing! Alright on ice but when you live in the country and the roads aren’t always paved, they perform significantly better than the previous X-Ice. Once again, awesome video and I really appreciate what your hard work has done for the consumer!
In Canada, we use the term all weather to distinguish tires that are usable year-round, but which carry the mountain/snowflake symbol and are homologated for winter use in provinces where the use of certified winter tires is legally required for parts of the year. These are in opposition to so-called "all-season" tires which some manufacturers still sell and are often standard equipment on new cars. These tires are not certified for winter use and are usually very, very, mediocre in wintry conditions.
Fantastic information, and I think education should go well beyond just fellow tyre geeks in your community. I moved to Ireland from warmer climes, and didn't realize how much summer tyres go "off" at about 7 deg C. Learnt by feel (fortunately not the very hard way). Scary thing is vast majority of drivers here do not recognise this change of grip levels and no thoughts of switching tyres for cooler season.
Looking forward to your big Michelin test ! Cross Climate 2 vs Alpin 6 vs Snow Ice will be very interesting. Living in Auvergne France ( Michelin country) with twisty, mountain roads, a fair bit of ice and snow in Winter and very hot Summers I still have two sets of tyres (mounted on alloys) for my 2021 Duster (original Continental Eco Contacts and Goodyear Winter tyres) but Uniroyal All-Seasons for my Chevrolet Spark runabout.....the Cross Climate 2 (or 3!) is tempting when the next change comes around!
To me it boils down to 2 questions, -Can you afford to run two sets of rims? -Are you willing to sacrifice summer handling/performance? Probably for most people in less extreme climates the all season is the sensible choice. But id always stump up for winters.
The third question should be the climatezone that you drive in. We have 2 months with snow and ice, and 30C in the summer. We simply need snow tyres and summer tyres. Ive tried one winter with all season tyres, it was really dangerous. But in many countries 1 set of tyres will probably be ok.
I replaced a set of assorted shonky budget tyres with premium all season tyres a couple of weeks ago. I'm in Scotland. It's mid-November. It's 15°C out there. Sigh.
After the last two winters where I made the change to all seasons and except for a very cold April/May, probably would have been better off on my Pilot 4 summer tyres due to the high average temps. This year I am faced with a dilemma as my old conti all seasons need replacing, do I stick with the Pilot 5 summer tyres hoping for a mild winter or do I purchase a new set of all seasons for the winter. The law of sod says that sticking with the summer tyres will see a cold winter this year in the UK and me cursing my decision
I'm out in the countryside in Scotland, and the council usually chooses not to bother with little things like ploughing the street or putting down salt (and only in the last few years have they even installed any salt bins, the rest of the time it was supply your own materials and effort) so I just stick with the all seasons. I'll take the slight hit in performance during the good weather for always being able to get home in the bad.
@@mcdon2401 I usually run all seasons as standard, but I just got the car recently. It's just typical, you prepare for winter and it warms up. It's kinda weird because it's warm and windy but with a really gloomy overcast. I was out on the bike just now, and expecting it to start raining at any moment. I suppose it'll be blizzards next week.
This past winter my wife suffered a medical emergency at home. I had just finished shoveling our driveway but it was snowing. The county hadn't reached our neck of the woods yet with the plows. Our van stays backed in the driveway for easy access! When we pulled out with a good amount of acceleration and got stuck. I didn't have time to figure out how to get unstuck and made the 911 call for a squad. It took them a good amount of time to reach our house. One of the medics told me even if you made past the driveway somewhere along the way you'd be in trouble cause it was plain and simple very bad out. By the time my wife's squad reached the hospital her medical emergency became life threatening. On a normal day we are 15 min away from the hospital. On this day when the squad left our house it was an hour and 15 min ride! Our van had new Yokohama Ascend A/S tire at the time. My wife made it through her ordeal and 4 months later she is back home! Also since this has happened all of our vehicles now have 3 mountain snow peak rated tires.
I've been running Crossclimate+ on my GTI for a couple winters now and I love them. I live where the winters can swing from 20F and snow to 50F in the same week. They pair very well with my PS4S tires in the summer.
My god man. You have those tongue twisters down!! @9:50 Superb video. Very helpful channel overall. I am from India and really regret the lack of quality tyre reviews in the Indian market. Though we don't have as much of difference in temperatures and seasons as in the west.
From a previous tire comparison you did, I chose Hankook Kinergy 4S2’s. WOW!!!! I’ve got a second Subaru arriving next week and will replace its OEM tires with the 4S2’s. Appreciate your channel!!
In Canada, we've created a new class of witerized tires. We call them all weather. We still have all season tires, but all weather tires are essentially all terrain tires that are rated for winters. Since I work at Canadian Tire, I have access to alot of tires. Personally I prefer the CT brand of all weather tires
Thanks for number 3. I have been using all-season winter tires as winter tires (Bridgeston A005) for 5 years and finally I have scientific proof of that :) As always, thanks a lot for what you do - it motivates me to learn English.
Thanks for the video. In the Netherlands we don't have that much winter. I used to buy summer and winter sets for both cars. Now looking for MS tires with good performance in wet and also some good fuel economy. It is just that you don't have to panic in the one or two weeks there may be snow.
Your reviews are excellent and your English is very clear for non native. I am a big fan. Following your reviews I just ordered a set of Hankook Kinergy 4s2 for our Ford Puma in 215/55R17 size. I found the Hankooks were the best price quality ratio. The Michelin ar just too expensive and prices have gone up in the recent months! We'll keep them all year round. We leave in the South of France on the sea side but just an hour away from the southern Alps and the first ski resorts. We travel from time to time to the central mountain district. So mild climate and occasional snow. I believe all season+ a set of snow chains for extreme conditions is the way to go. A compilation of long term user reviews would also be great. Keep the reviews coming.
The problem with all season tires is not on snow, it is their total lack of grip on ice and hard packed snow ice that is the problem where they generally have 2 to 4 times the breaking distance of non studded winter tires which is a deal breaker here where you have 5 to 7 months of ice on the roads. I now drive winter tires all year because it is so hard work changing the tires on my large Ford Transit comverted Campervan.
I’m super excited for your upcoming Michelin video. I run PS4S tires during the summer for my BMW and I run x-ice snow in the winter. My wife has the crossclimate 2s and we’re curious how all of these compare! Super excited to see that video :)
Excellent review, thanks. Keep it up. You help people make the right choice. At least to me. Your subscriber over the past couple of years, I recommend the channel to all my friends. Thanks again.
wow you rock, amazing ! Definitely a must watch. Living in greece, no snow in my area but rains a lot and I am going a lot for skiing even in greece or Austria and when it snows it snows, roads not the best in GR and not so fast on cleaning them. Not so big difference between winter and all season on dry/wet. Especially wet. I think for the 2 months I need a winter behavior tyre I will go with a pure winter and not all season but I am tempted for the cross 2
If you live in the Pacific Northwest such as Vancouver, B.C. down to the state of Oregon. All Seasons tire is the way to go. You are living on the coast compared living close to the mountains. When snow comes a lot. In the winters it is usually warmer up to 50 degrees to 55 degrees Fahrenheit during the day. That means more rain compared to snow. Winter tires as I know is much better living in Idaho, Montana, and Alberta.
I use the Crossclimate 2 year round in Tahoe, California, with the idea for emergency braking/handling in dry conditions and snow conditions (ie, highway speeds and going around town were other out of control cars might be around) as the two advantages, and knowing that I will try to avoid driving in wet conditions or make sure to extra moderate my speed as when in potentially icy or snowy conditions. Wish they would come in runflat version!
I did not catch if you are mentioning temperatures for your dry and wet handing tests. I am deciding between purchasing an all season or winter tyres to be used between November and March in Central Europe. For summer I'll get a summer tyre. I drive about 10 kms per year in snow, rest of my driving is on dry or wet roads which might get icy. Temperatures generally range between -5°C to 10°C in winter where I live, with the occasional extremes both ways. Am I right to assume that in this climate getting an all-season tyre such as Hankook H750 Kinergy would be a better choice than a winter tyre such as Hankook W452 Winter i*cept?
Thanks so much for this valuable information! I asked you last year about this comparison and you said you would make it this winter :) I know you read most comments, please would you be able to make a test of full profile vs used one? We see recommendations to change tires at 3 & 4 mm, would be great to know exacly how it affects the performance!
Changing tires over is a pita, but your conclusion makes sense. Guess I'll keep 2 sets of rims and tires, although I was thinking the cross climate 2 would be a good compromise.
I was needing to replace my Winter tyres this year and looked at All Season options. But the price is essentially the same as a dedicated Winter tyre, & with more compromise in the season i'm using them for. So logic dictated buying a Winter tyre is the best option. My Conti WinterContacts have lasted over 25k miles over the past 4 years (still with 4+mm of tread). I only use them between Nov/Dec - Feb/March time when the avg temp is below 7degrees to prevent them overheating and wearing down quicker.
@@Jabber-ig3iw that's a false comparison. It's 2 sets of all-season vs summer + winter set. You need two sets of rims and storage obviously but you get most of it back when you sell them after not needed anymore.
Earlier I wrote that I prefer 2 sets of tyres in my region, and that is still true and to be honest, I prefer Kleber. However, I've fitted all season Quadraxer 3 on my second car today instead of Giti, as it's been snowing the whole day, the temperature is around -4°C and Giti WInter W1 is an awful tyre for winter. It's just so unpredictable, as it's been losing grip all the time, in every corner and every roundabout on a fwd car. So it's totally true that a nice all season tyre is way better than a CN cheap winter tyre even in Nordic winter conditions. More grip, better traction, shorter braking distance, safer ride considering that all the pavement is covered with snow.
@TyreReviews: after watching this video I thought a filter on "my climate" and "car use" would be an excellent addition to the website. So if you live in the UK you can select "mild" (unless the north of Scotland) and car use could be "family" or "business" or "sporty", "average", "eco".. and tyres that score high on the selection show up near the top.
Great review. I’m actually driving on Conti WinterContactTS 870 P nad they are just great. Handling, noise and comfort are absolutly great. I recommended this tires.
I love my Blizzaks DM-V2 on my '22 Corolla Cross and 1996 Land Cruiser. I live at 8,600' (2,621 m.) in the Colorado mountains. My winter tires go on in late October and come off in mid May. Your videos help me justify the expense of running two sets of tires on two vehicles. I wish more people understood the importance of winter tires and that car manufactures would stop selling AWD as safety/ traction aid.
Another fantastic vid. Complex, but very informative. I think when my Pirelli all season plus' wear out I will switch to the cross climates for all year round driving. I have Nordic tires as well, but with AWD, the Nordic tires are overkill where I live. Either that, or get some summers and keep the nordics. Tough getting summers for a crossover suv with decent treadwear
I’m American and work in the automotive industry and never actually heard anyone say all weather tires, we also say all season tires…I’ve heard people call them 3 season due to the fact most all season tires suck in the snow
Sadly as ice testing is very expensive we don't really test ice a lot, however I have videos on the channel comparing tyre types on snow and ice which might be able to help!
Finally! Thanks.I change tyres for winter and summer. But living in the uk it may be best to use an all season during winter like you said. After researching for a month i think the a005 is the best for me.
Really excited for the Michelin tire comparison. Also, have you ever considered comparing studless winter tires to studdable (but unstudded) winter tires? Here in southern Ontario, Canada, studded tires are not allowed, like in a lot of places, but studdable tires are still sold here and often are reasonably priced. For example the General Altimax Artic 12 is a studdable winter tire that is known to be a good value winter tire and is run by a lot of people without studs. But I've always wondered how it and others like it compare to studless winter tires, since every test I see about studdable tires never run them without studs.
A lot of interesting data, thanks for share. And in case - Cross Climate + has another one very safety important thing - these tires just ignore wheel track on moderate road. On classical summer tires its huge problem - handle car at hight speed when you change line or ahead of fast truck and so on.
Thanks for another nice video! Personally I stick to two tyre sets, yet winter is my region is really unpredictable: one year it's wet and mild, and the other year - it's freezing cold and snowy. So I prefer a European winter tyre + summer tyre.
Really appreciated ur conclusion And the combo summer /all season is maybe for most of europ the best choice except people in mountain or really southern Again Really happy to see a video like this one So balanced
Love your videos! It would be great to see a comparison between all-weather and winter performance tires, something like Crossclimate 2 vs Pilot Alpin 5. Their designs look so different but should perform similarly in ice, snow, and dry at least on paper.
Great, thanks! Wish they used the Alpin 5 instead of LM005 but still gives a pretty good idea. Crossclimate 2 is almost impossible to beat as an overall performer…
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Love your videos. How about testing new winter tires vs 5+ year old tires, or nearly new vs 5+ year old tires with similar tread wear? Hard to test exactly, but would be interesting to see how tires perform as they age. Also how old to let tires get before you change, even if they have good tread life.
what about the weather peak from bridgestone?
Wished you would do a review for what's the best winter tire for RWD vehicles. What's rated best for FWD and AWD cars are not what's necessary good for RWD cars as when I first got my 2016 Mustang GT thinking buying the X-Ice Xi3's was the best option because it was the #1 tire back then but those tires were very unsafe to drive in and it ended up being the Blizzak WS80's being the life saver, now the WS90's are out. It's not the best with fuel consumption and connering but when you're driving in Canadian weather, it's better to drive safe than fast!
My son is getting his driving permit and we watch your channel together. I keep telling him the only thing holding your 3,000lb vehicle to the road is a couple inches of rubber. Tire selection makes all the difference in safety. You can have all the blind spot warning, lane assist, automatic braking, AWD you want. If your tires don't hold you to the ground....all that stuff doesn't matter. Keep up the great work!!!
That is awesome! Glad you're educating him :)
@@codincoman9019 please, visit central Poland .I suppose you will change your mind
This, is precisely why EVERY SINGLE YEAR on the first snow storm, we have dozens of fancy expensive SUVs in the ditches, because people forget that every mechanical aid and nanny in the world can't defeat the awesome power of the moron doing the piloting. Don't drive above your skill, don't drive faster than you can stop.
@@codincoman9019 I can actually agree and disagree with you, within my own fleet of vehicles. :D
One car has summer only tires, but it gets put away in the late fall anyways so it never sees cold/snow or even rain mostly.
Another is driven year round, but doesn't generally go out in snow, it just might get caught on a smaller storm, so it has good all seasons.
The last gets studded snows put on it, as it does plowing duties in the winter, and has appropriate all season off-road capable tires on it the rest of the year.
Also good brakes
Being a tyre geek myself, every kind of test and comparison I have ever imagined and wished it existed, this channel has it:D Cant thank you enough man!:)
Glad you enjoy it!
yeah right! this is literally the most useful chanel in the whole youtube
I just like stats comparison. Depending on where your focus lies, there is a certain Tyre for you :D
@@webuser2014 which ones ? CrossClimate 2 ? I bought them for front tires size 245/19 . Only drove them on dry roads for the moment.
Is there a test on the channel how all-season tires behave on hot days? I mean temperatures above 30 * C, the surface is then 50 * C and more.
That saved so much money for so many people on top of reducing waste from old tires. Thank you!
It would be interesting to see a test between All Seasons and Winter tyres on slushy snow surfaces, rather than the more usual tested dry compacted snow.
that slush between lanes specifically
I think the problem with that is the reproducability of these kind of surfaces... But I'm with you on that, I'd like to see some test like that, too!
Forever I will remember the day when my daughter’s friend was being dropped off at my home during the winter via her father in a 20 year old subcompact. I was shoveling the driveway when they arrived, and he began lamenting road slipperiness due to the snow. I then gave him my winter tire endorsement, same as I do to anyone who will listen. I worked in the automotive industry for 30 years and was involved in the association meetings where they debated the “how old is too old to keep driving on your tires” topic, for instance. Not two weeks after my conversation, he lost control on a curve and was broadsided by a truck. RIP my daughter’s best friend Rosie. How tragic. Winter tires likely would have prevented this tragedy.
@@vladimirkostic9932 This is terrible logic.
@@vladimirkostic9932 That's not how logic works.
I got the crossclimates for my Alfa in November when temperatures dropped & my Pilot sport 4S just stopped working. Really good in cold wet conditions, snow was lacking this year but one morning driving home was overtaking multiple vehicles travelling very slowly & was finding tons of grip on what was fresh overnight snow. Ive run with pure winter tyres in the past & the crossclimates feel their equal IMO but as I've said we haven't had a hard winter for a few years. Put about 4000miles on them over winter & don't seem to have worn very much. Where the pilot sports I'm lucky to get 8000 out of them as I change them at around 3.5-4mm as performance wet & dry drops of sharply at these tread depths (8mm new)
Ps I'm on very good terms with the lads at local tyre fitters!
@@adriansutherland7948dry performance tends to INcrease with lower thread depth
Nice made up youtube comment story 🤣 why do you get off on writing fake stories like this?
I have a set of 245/50 Hankook Kinergy 4S2's on a 2023 Mazda CX50. They were perfect during summer temps of +30 degrees C and they saw their first snow and ice and -25 degrees this week. At -25, on dry pavement and on snow, these tires provide amazing grip. Enough for me to not be missing a set of winter's. It's only on Ice where they struggle a bit... They still provide enough grip to keep you safe at city speeds and has enough traction to get you going.
My wife has a set of Bridgestone Turanza all season tires, and they are just plain dangerous on ANY amount of snow. She is running a set of Nordic winters as her second set, given how bad the traditional AS is.
I will reserve my final judgement on what we call all weather tires in Canada, till I have driven the Hankooks in -40...
Man you deserve an award for the work you’re doing, seriously
Don't get cheap, send him an award.
After watching videos from several channels and looking through your website, I have purchased a set of Michelin CrossClimate 2s for my M240i to get me through the dreary North West UK winters. Last year I got stuck in less than half an inch of snow coming home from a night shift and had to sleep on the back seat for a couple of hours while waiting for the snow to clear up. Hopefully the CrossClimates are going to get me home where my Michelin Pilot Super Sports couldn't.
Thanks a lot for all detailed information you have provided!
Oh they will. And you'll have a lot of fun if you turn TC off (not recommended of course)
I have driven in a solid 2-3 inches of show covering the road last winter in Belgrade, -6C at the time, in my Megane 3 with CrossClimate 2 tires. I had zero issues moving about, but the snow was supper wet so I had to creep at a max of 30-40km/h in the city. Any faster and the rear end would start to slip when braking.
I would like to see a test of a new all season/winter tyres against the same tyre half worn .Possibly adding in a fully worn tyre but still legal tyre. Just be interesting to see if the grip reduces in a linear way or not !
Yes, old tires would be good test.
I've half shot this :)
Yes, I would be the great test :)
Winter tyres doesn’t reduce grip linear on snow. The biggest difference is on first millimeters of use.
@@tyrereviews You're a frickin beast
Great idea
That was probably the best description of the differences between them in the snow breaking 😂
" From that to that to oh my god that's a huge accident" 🤣🤣🤣 6:27
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-90 and DM-V2 are probably the most popular winter tires in the US. We would love to see you test them. Keep up the great work!!!
I really want to test those!
My Toyota Sienna has a extra set of OEM rims with WS-90 and my RAV4 V6 has a extra set of OEM rims with the DM-V2. People in the Northwest of the US believe 4x4/AWD means winter readiness and when I drive to the mountains 90% of the time those are the types spun out in the ditch.
I have the Blizzak WS90 on my VW GTI and I can’t even tell you how excellent it is on fresh snow, days old snow, ice, and even 3-4 inches of snow. Saved my butt 3 times at least in the 400 miles I’ve been running it.
I live in a mountainous alpine region and my own neighborhood is hilly as hell.
I wonder how newer Toyo GS-i 6 and new Nokia fares against them. They lasted a bit longer than WS-80.
My sis, living in Sacramento area put a set of Cooper Discoverer True North on her 2015 Tacoma and side wall on both front tires disintegrated at the end of the season, leaving her stranded on Rd. 88. I'm so disappointed, and her being furious. Cooper Tires never again.
Just put Bridgestone Blizzak WS-90s on my Kia Niro. First time with snow tires but have heard they do a good job if you don't have AWD.
Just coming up for my 3rd winter in a European country that mandates winter tyres from mid November to mid March, I opted for all seasons because having 2 sets seemed lots of faff and added costs. No regrets so far, I’ve experienced so little snow that I’ve not needed good snow performance but the cold wet performance is great, during summer I’ve had no issues although it’s obvious the performance is not up to the standard of a summer tyre.
I'm considering switching to all seasons myself and this reinforces my opinion that it will be the summer tyres that I'll miss... Thank you!
@@RaduB. about 8 years ago we went from summer continentals to the original cross climate michellins.
i have to say, at least for that switch the michellin delivered better in everything.
(the continentals i think were premium ecocontact or something like that, in theory delivering fuel economy. with very conservative driving they gave just 40k km and about 3+ years)
the michellins after that went for over 90k km, over 5years and had at least 40% thread remaining, but were changed due to age for an upcoming yearly inspection.
the michellin brought a lot more comfort.
way better handling,
quiter rider on higher speeds
way less vibrations (the continentals went through extensive checks for balancing and still above 150 kph too much vibrations after 3 years. the michellins at 5 years old were still perfect at 190kph)
actually brought a barely noticeable 2-5% fuel consumption decrease
braking performance increased amazingly
and they obviously made the car capable of driving in wet or fresh snow (not possible with summers)
so dont be afraid of all seasons, if you choose a good tyre that matches your needs and wants it should still deliver sufficiently for you
@@pasmas3217
Thank you! That is very helpful.
@@codincoman9019 it was supposed to be the best fuel efficiency premium summer tyre back then and it was supposed to deliver (at least) some performance too. It wasn't a cheap summer eco tyre compared to the beat all season.
Also the comparison is just the personal experience (and why we stayed with cross climate ever since)
It is not a scientific study comparison.
And btw on my personal car, which is about 450kg lighter than the family car, with a bit more power I have some fairly cheap (in theory) performance-like summer tyres. The michellins still deliver equal or better, but that's a comparison I know is not to be made due to the different tiers of tyre quality, and why I didn't put it in the original comment.
Please start a Patreon! I understand the awkwardness of it. But I would love to see more frequent testing. Especially expensive test like wear. I would absolutely contribute, perhaps others might too.
Thanks, I've actually been considering that recently, I setup thanks on youtube and started the youtube version of patron but it's not a nice system so gave up. I'll look into it over xmas
I have had the cross climate 2s on my golf for just over 2 years now and I absolutely love them. I never thought all seasons could be this good. I have x ice for the winter but this year I’m almost debating whether it’s even worth putting them on. I love how the cross climates handle in the dry. The on center feel is better.
If you see a lot of snow or compacted ice I would definitely make the switch, but for mid winters maybe not!
@@tyrereviews Belgian winters are mild, snow is rare but not exceptional so very happy with CrossClimate 2s on my Tesla 3 LR.
More confirmation that the Cross Climate is the tire for me, and has been working great the last few years. Living inland in the NW USA, we don't see much rain at all. We go from stupid hot summer to cold winter with occasional snow/ice. Its good to know that the Michelin CC isn't the best in the rain, that lets me temper my driving a bit there. But having the dry performance with the occasional snow needs... love it. Currently have them on two of three vehicles.
Related to that, how about a testing of all-weather and snow for truck/suv sizes? I have the CC on our RAM Promaster (same as Fiat Ducato), and love it there. Curious if the brand differences show up similarly in that tire market as the passenger vehicles.
I like the Cross Climate also and happy to see the results. Not a good Seattle tire due to rain braking but I’ve since moved to Salt lake and it’s ideal for this climate.
CC would be great for me but I wear tires fast and I hear the CC wears quickly. I would probably get a year and a few months out of them. I'm leaning towards Bridgestone Weatherpeak.
It's in the negatives F here today. It's supposed to be 55 degrees F on 1/23. Still got Viking Contact on my car. 8,000 miles roughly with 6/32 left.
Not sure if you've done this already but would love to see a similar comparison using all-terrain/M+S tires for pick-ups/SUVs.
For example, the Goodyear Duratrac is a winter rated, M+S, AT tire and I've personally found it to be the best do-it-all tire I've ever used. I'm curious to see how it stacks up to modern competition as well as dedicated winter tires. And does having the mountain-snowflake symbol make it a winter tire or just a winter capable tire?
So much valuable Information here! My takeaway message is, in southern Germany, it makes sense to get an all-season tyre for the winter months instead of winter tyres (if your new car was already delivered on summer tyres during spring/summer) because they seem to be better in the dry and still good wet compared to winter tyres.
I've been waiting for a comparison like this forever! Thank you so much for listening!
I hope you enjoyed it!
In summary, everything is perfectly said! I have after the Michelin CC1 now mounted the CC2 and am very satisfied.
Your excellent, scientific experiment oriented videos led me to think analytically about the distribution over road conditions I experience in New England and make a winter tire choice more cognizant of the tradeoffs.
They also got me experimenting with different bicycle tires (where it's a lot cheaper to be a tire nerd :P)!
What did you conclude?
@@tyrereviews Driving with a young family, I wanted the extra performance and safety margin that comes from a dedicated winter tire if I encountered winter conditions. I also don't HAVE to be out in the worst winter storms or icing conditions, the roads get cleared here, and hence I would rarely encounter situations where a Nordic winter tire was best. I went with the Michelin Alpin 5: strong results in the dry, sporty if by myself, but also good performance all around in case I need to safely get through anything else (including up to the ski slopes).
For bicycle tires, I got the Continental Top Contact Winter II for winter bike commuting. It appears to be unique as a studless winter bicycle tire.
@@fortinbras47 I used to run the Alpins, but after experiencing periods of the year where temperatures kept dipping below and rising above the 7C tire crossover temperature, I ended up moving to the Cross climate 2s :s
(And some summer tires for going to the race track when it's the middle of summer)
Very good...Thanks! Here in Washington State we get some snow but mostly a lot of rain. The cross climate 2 works very well around here all year long.
I love the Vredenstein Quatrac Pros on my 2005 Subaru Outback. I wanted to get the top rated Cross Climate2s, but they did(do?) not make them in my car's size in the U.S. Now that I've experienced the Quatrac Pros superior wet braking and handling first hand, I would buy them again. I'm glad to see that the test results confirm my "seat of the pants" feeling about these tires. And since I live and drive in areas where there's not too often heavy snow/ice, they are perfect for my more mild wintry conditions. With the bonus that during heavy summer rains the car handles brilliantly. Also they are pretty cushy for highway cruising in the standard 16 inch size that my car requires. That said, you can feel the squishy sidewalls in hard cornering and that took a few drives to get used to, and I lost about 1 mpg in fuel mileage over the all seasons I had on before. But, that's not why I bought these tires. I'll gladly sacrifice a bit of mileage and dry weather at the limits handling for secure foul weather performance.
Glad you're getting on with them :)
I'm with you Marc. In the dry, I just don't push the car - I'm very far "inside the performance envelope" of any tire, all the time (barring emergencies, etc). Normal driving in the wet is a different story; I spend much more time closer to the traction limits - so that's where I want the extra "cushion". In snow/ice, "normal driving" is everyone very nearly at the traction limit, all the time. But fortunately I don't see snow in my area. The Quatracs are tops on my list, when the time comes.
This is one of the best channels on UA-cam! So much time invested in testing, measuring, calculating. Science! 😃
You definitely can't beat two sets of wheels and tyres.
The extra safety the Michelin CC+ brings over my Goodyear Supersport's in the British winter is definitely worth it, especially after a few trackdays the wet weather performance drops off quite a bit.
Thank you for everything you do.
Appreciate the scientific approach to your testing and to sharing all the results - thanks!
Thanks :)
Great info
Something else that should be discussed is tire pressure. Correct psi on winter tires is very important for grip. I own a powerful rear wheel drive vehicle running snow tires for winter conditions here in Canada.
Recently found the car slipping a bit on wet roads at around 2 degrees celsius.
Checked the psi all four corners 4 psi higher than I like, 34vs 30. Brought all tires to 30, problem solved. Glad I checked.
I've put ~20,000 miles on Michelin CC2s on a Honda Pilot. For the Mid-Atlantic United States, it's a very good tire. Our winters are too mild for dedicated winter tires. Our snow almost always falls as a wet snow and we rarely go three consecutive days below freezing. It's awful stuff and the CC2s do well enough that I can drive if I must.
The video I've been looking for! Thank you!
brilliant video but even more looking forward to the michelin test you mentioned at 2:00
It's half edited, working on it now :)
I love these videos! I have run Goodyear Vector 4seasons Gen 3 on my All4 Mini Countryman S for the past year and they are fantastic. I am thinking about two sets, though. Saying that, Scottish weather is quite unpredictable and often get four seasons in one day!
I put Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons gen3 on my Octavia 4x4. I live in the Yorkshire Dales and you have to be prepared for anything, any time, including almost no snow for the last ten years. I really like them and they have lasted well over three years. I have no problem with the handling which is little different at legal speeds. I certainly intend to buy them again, you are just "covered" whatever happens.
I'd like to see the Nokian Hakka R5 vs the old Nokian R3 and other winter tires please!
1:10, Actually we have specific all season tires and specific all weather tires in Canada and USA.
I'll probably get a set of CrossClimate2s for my new SUV and keep them on all year. Seem to be good enough to handle almost any situation.
Probably the best all season tire . Just take it easy on the wet only down side is wet handling . Braking in the wet is actually good just gotta watch those turns .
Coming from Canada I’m used to having winter tires on in the winter. But…, living in Southern Ohio yes we get snow, but we also get wet in the winter. When I replaced my OEM tires (18” wheels) I put performance summer tires on. I have 17” wheels that had Michelin x-ice 3 for 10 years on them. Last fall I replaced them with cross climate 2 for my “winter” tires.
I needed 3 peak rated tires in order to take my 2017 Toyota C-HR into the French Alps last winter. I watched your videos & also read loads of reviews. I went with the latest Goodyear Vector All seasons as they were available in required 18inch size & fitted the bill. They have been brilliant & I’m very pleased with them and have found them to be very good all year round as living in South East England we don’t see much extreme snow! I know my car is not a performance car, but it does handle well & I do enjoy throwing it round the bends & these tires are superb in both wet & dry. I do think that they may have dropped my mpg a teeny weeny tiny amount but it’s worth it because car feels so secure in cold & wet.
I swapped out my oversized PZ4 * on my 328i Xdrive and put on stock sized Cross Climate 2’s as my fall/winter tire. In Alberta, Canada we get lots of snow and can hit -40, but there are times when it warms up and roads can get icy yet slushy . I sold my X-Ice Xi3’s because they were great for ice handling but horrible for feel and deep snow. The CC2 so far this season have been amazing! Alright on ice but when you live in the country and the roads aren’t always paved, they perform significantly better than the previous X-Ice. Once again, awesome video and I really appreciate what your hard work has done for the consumer!
Thank you for the insight :-)
Best All seasons in weathers:
Winter 1#: Michelin (low fuel effiency)
Rain 1# Bridgestone (med fuel efficiency)
Dry 1# Continental (high fuel efficiency)
What's the most balanced, preferring the wet in low temps and high temps and dry at the same time?
Just wow!! Great comprehensive content. Great job!! Keep it up, keep them coming...
In Canada, we use the term all weather to distinguish tires that are usable year-round, but which carry the mountain/snowflake symbol and are homologated for winter use in provinces where the use of certified winter tires is legally required for parts of the year. These are in opposition to so-called "all-season" tires which some manufacturers still sell and are often standard equipment on new cars. These tires are not certified for winter use and are usually very, very, mediocre in wintry conditions.
Thank you for the review and reviews from other sources. Looking forward to the review on the Micheline vs Micheline vs Micheline vs Micheline 👍
:D
Fantastic information, and I think education should go well beyond just fellow tyre geeks in your community. I moved to Ireland from warmer climes, and didn't realize how much summer tyres go "off" at about 7 deg C. Learnt by feel (fortunately not the very hard way). Scary thing is vast majority of drivers here do not recognise this change of grip levels and no thoughts of switching tyres for cooler season.
Love your comments and education.
Thanks a. Lottle
thank you for watching :D
Looking forward to your big Michelin test ! Cross Climate 2 vs Alpin 6 vs Snow Ice will be very interesting. Living in Auvergne France ( Michelin country) with twisty, mountain roads, a fair bit of ice and snow in Winter and very hot Summers I still have two sets of tyres (mounted on alloys) for my 2021 Duster (original Continental Eco Contacts and Goodyear Winter tyres) but Uniroyal All-Seasons for my Chevrolet Spark runabout.....the Cross Climate 2 (or 3!) is tempting when the next change comes around!
YES!!!! We’ve been waiting for this video!!!!
@2:07 dude that’s every tire nerd’s dream video right there, can’t wait for it!!!
Hopefully next week :)
To me it boils down to 2 questions,
-Can you afford to run two sets of rims?
-Are you willing to sacrifice summer handling/performance?
Probably for most people in less extreme climates the all season is the sensible choice. But id always stump up for winters.
i was spending $110, twice a year swapping my wifes tyres over, used set of wheels for her car was 500 on ebay. No brainer really.
The third question should be the climatezone that you drive in.
We have 2 months with snow and ice, and 30C in the summer. We simply need snow tyres and summer tyres. Ive tried one winter with all season tyres, it was really dangerous.
But in many countries 1 set of tyres will probably be ok.
@@bsod5608 great point. For me in the uk we almost never get snow. But i need the snow ability for european snow holiday driving.
It would be interesting to watch a direct comparison between:
MICHELINE Cross Climate 2 and GOODYEAR Vector Gen-3.
I replaced a set of assorted shonky budget tyres with premium all season tyres a couple of weeks ago.
I'm in Scotland. It's mid-November. It's 15°C out there. Sigh.
After the last two winters where I made the change to all seasons and except for a very cold April/May, probably would have been better off on my Pilot 4 summer tyres due to the high average temps. This year I am faced with a dilemma as my old conti all seasons need replacing, do I stick with the Pilot 5 summer tyres hoping for a mild winter or do I purchase a new set of all seasons for the winter. The law of sod says that sticking with the summer tyres will see a cold winter this year in the UK and me cursing my decision
I'm out in the countryside in Scotland, and the council usually chooses not to bother with little things like ploughing the street or putting down salt (and only in the last few years have they even installed any salt bins, the rest of the time it was supply your own materials and effort) so I just stick with the all seasons. I'll take the slight hit in performance during the good weather for always being able to get home in the bad.
@@mcdon2401 I usually run all seasons as standard, but I just got the car recently. It's just typical, you prepare for winter and it warms up. It's kinda weird because it's warm and windy but with a really gloomy overcast. I was out on the bike just now, and expecting it to start raining at any moment. I suppose it'll be blizzards next week.
This past winter my wife suffered a medical emergency at home. I had just finished shoveling our driveway but it was snowing. The county hadn't reached our neck of the woods yet with the plows. Our van stays backed in the driveway for easy access! When we pulled out with a good amount of acceleration and got stuck. I didn't have time to figure out how to get unstuck and made the 911 call for a squad. It took them a good amount of time to reach our house. One of the medics told me even if you made past the driveway somewhere along the way you'd be in trouble cause it was plain and simple very bad out. By the time my wife's squad reached the hospital her medical emergency became life threatening. On a normal day we are 15 min away from the hospital. On this day when the squad left our house it was an hour and 15 min ride! Our van had new Yokohama Ascend A/S tire at the time. My wife made it through her ordeal and 4 months later she is back home! Also since this has happened all of our vehicles now have 3 mountain snow peak rated tires.
I've been running Crossclimate+ on my GTI for a couple winters now and I love them.
I live where the winters can swing from 20F and snow to 50F in the same week.
They pair very well with my PS4S tires in the summer.
My god man. You have those tongue twisters down!! @9:50
Superb video. Very helpful channel overall. I am from India and really regret the lack of quality tyre reviews in the Indian market.
Though we don't have as much of difference in temperatures and seasons as in the west.
From a previous tire comparison you did, I chose Hankook Kinergy 4S2’s. WOW!!!! I’ve got a second Subaru arriving next week and will replace its OEM tires with the 4S2’s. Appreciate your channel!!
Have you had them in the snow yet? So much fun!
@@tyrereviews Yes! Here in North Idaho, snow has arrived. They are very “sure footed”!
In Canada, we've created a new class of witerized tires. We call them all weather. We still have all season tires, but all weather tires are essentially all terrain tires that are rated for winters. Since I work at Canadian Tire, I have access to alot of tires. Personally I prefer the CT brand of all weather tires
Thanks for number 3. I have been using all-season winter tires as winter tires (Bridgeston A005) for 5 years and finally I have scientific proof of that :)
As always, thanks a lot for what you do - it motivates me to learn English.
Learn English? Your written English seems perfect!
@@tyrereviews Thanks behalf of the Google translator :)
Thanks for the video. In the Netherlands we don't have that much winter. I used to buy summer and winter sets for both cars. Now looking for MS tires with good performance in wet and also some good fuel economy. It is just that you don't have to panic in the one or two weeks there may be snow.
Your reviews are excellent and your English is very clear for non native.
I am a big fan.
Following your reviews I just ordered a set of Hankook Kinergy 4s2 for our Ford Puma in 215/55R17 size. I found the Hankooks were the best price quality ratio. The Michelin ar just too expensive and prices have gone up in the recent months!
We'll keep them all year round.
We leave in the South of France on the sea side but just an hour away from the southern Alps and the first ski resorts.
We travel from time to time to the central mountain district. So mild climate and occasional snow.
I believe all season+ a set of snow chains for extreme conditions is the way to go.
A compilation of long term user reviews would also be great.
Keep the reviews coming.
The problem with all season tires is not on snow, it is their total lack of grip on ice and hard packed snow ice that is the problem where they generally have 2 to 4 times the breaking distance of non studded winter tires which is a deal breaker here where you have 5 to 7 months of ice on the roads. I now drive winter tires all year because it is so hard work changing the tires on my large Ford Transit comverted Campervan.
Awesome review / explanation. I'm more confident now with the choices made for both my cars, thanks!
Glad I could help!
You Rock Jonathan 🤟💪💯
Thanks
You’re doing a great service for us all! Thank you!!👍👍
I’m super excited for your upcoming Michelin video. I run PS4S tires during the summer for my BMW and I run x-ice snow in the winter. My wife has the crossclimate 2s and we’re curious how all of these compare! Super excited to see that video :)
It's really interesting data!
Excellent review, thanks. Keep it up. You help people make the right choice. At least to me. Your subscriber over the past couple of years, I recommend the channel to all my friends. Thanks again.
I appreciate that!
wow you rock, amazing ! Definitely a must watch. Living in greece, no snow in my area but rains a lot and I am going a lot for skiing even in greece or Austria and when it snows it snows, roads not the best in GR and not so fast on cleaning them. Not so big difference between winter and all season on dry/wet. Especially wet. I think for the 2 months I need a winter behavior tyre I will go with a pure winter and not all season but I am tempted for the cross 2
I use the CC2 as a winter tyre at the moment...
If you live in the Pacific Northwest such as Vancouver, B.C. down to the state of Oregon. All Seasons tire is the way to go. You are living on the coast compared living close to the mountains. When snow comes a lot. In the winters it is usually warmer up to 50 degrees to 55 degrees Fahrenheit during the day. That means more rain compared to snow. Winter tires as I know is much better living in Idaho, Montana, and Alberta.
I use the Crossclimate 2 year round in Tahoe, California, with the idea for emergency braking/handling in dry conditions and snow conditions (ie, highway speeds and going around town were other out of control cars might be around) as the two advantages, and knowing that I will try to avoid driving in wet conditions or make sure to extra moderate my speed as when in potentially icy or snowy conditions. Wish they would come in runflat version!
I did not catch if you are mentioning temperatures for your dry and wet handing tests. I am deciding between purchasing an all season or winter tyres to be used between November and March in Central Europe. For summer I'll get a summer tyre. I drive about 10 kms per year in snow, rest of my driving is on dry or wet roads which might get icy. Temperatures generally range between -5°C to 10°C in winter where I live, with the occasional extremes both ways. Am I right to assume that in this climate getting an all-season tyre such as Hankook H750 Kinergy would be a better choice than a winter tyre such as Hankook W452 Winter i*cept?
I've suggested my mom to put the allmighty Hankook 4s2 on 18" on her MB CLA also, they handle perfectly
Very useful analysis and information. Awesome content as usual!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks so much for this valuable information! I asked you last year about this comparison and you said you would make it this winter :) I know you read most comments, please would you be able to make a test of full profile vs used one? We see recommendations to change tires at 3 & 4 mm, would be great to know exacly how it affects the performance!
Another outstanding analysis, thank you.
All seasons have come on massively. I run Continental ASC 2 and they are very capable in all weathers 💪
Changing tires over is a pita, but your conclusion makes sense. Guess I'll keep 2 sets of rims and tires, although I was thinking the cross climate 2 would be a good compromise.
Brilliant as always fella! 👍🏻
thanks!
I was needing to replace my Winter tyres this year and looked at All Season options. But the price is essentially the same as a dedicated Winter tyre, & with more compromise in the season i'm using them for. So logic dictated buying a Winter tyre is the best option.
My Conti WinterContacts have lasted over 25k miles over the past 4 years (still with 4+mm of tread). I only use them between Nov/Dec - Feb/March time when the avg temp is below 7degrees to prevent them overheating and wearing down quicker.
@@Jabber-ig3iw that's a false comparison. It's 2 sets of all-season vs summer + winter set. You need two sets of rims and storage obviously but you get most of it back when you sell them after not needed anymore.
As usual, top tier content!
Thank you!
Great video. I'd love a video about differences within tyres eg. Michelin Primacy 4 non-S1 vs Primacy 4 S1
Earlier I wrote that I prefer 2 sets of tyres in my region, and that is still true and to be honest, I prefer Kleber. However, I've fitted all season Quadraxer 3 on my second car today instead of Giti, as it's been snowing the whole day, the temperature is around -4°C and Giti WInter W1 is an awful tyre for winter. It's just so unpredictable, as it's been losing grip all the time, in every corner and every roundabout on a fwd car. So it's totally true that a nice all season tyre is way better than a CN cheap winter tyre even in Nordic winter conditions. More grip, better traction, shorter braking distance, safer ride considering that all the pavement is covered with snow.
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@TyreReviews: after watching this video I thought a filter on "my climate" and "car use" would be an excellent addition to the website. So if you live in the UK you can select "mild" (unless the north of Scotland) and car use could be "family" or "business" or "sporty", "average", "eco".. and tyres that score high on the selection show up near the top.
Great review. I’m actually driving on Conti WinterContactTS 870 P nad they are just great. Handling, noise and comfort are absolutly great. I recommended this tires.
Great tyre!
I love my Blizzaks DM-V2 on my '22 Corolla Cross and 1996 Land Cruiser. I live at 8,600' (2,621 m.) in the Colorado mountains. My winter tires go on in late October and come off in mid May. Your videos help me justify the expense of running two sets of tires on two vehicles. I wish more people understood the importance of winter tires and that car manufactures would stop selling AWD as safety/ traction aid.
Another fantastic vid. Complex, but very informative. I think when my Pirelli all season plus' wear out I will switch to the cross climates for all year round driving. I have Nordic tires as well, but with AWD, the Nordic tires are overkill where I live. Either that, or get some summers and keep the nordics. Tough getting summers for a crossover suv with decent treadwear
Where is Nokias tires. Would love to see those included.
*nokian. They're not tested much this year due to the situation in Russia
Exactly
I’m American and work in the automotive industry and never actually heard anyone say all weather tires, we also say all season tires…I’ve heard people call them 3 season due to the fact most all season tires suck in the snow
Curiously, no mention of ice. Are all seasons any good on ice? I guess UK gets plenty of icing on the roads in the winter with it's high humidity?
Sadly as ice testing is very expensive we don't really test ice a lot, however I have videos on the channel comparing tyre types on snow and ice which might be able to help!
Finally! Thanks.I
change tyres for winter and summer. But living in the uk it may be best to use an all season during winter like you said. After researching for a month i think the a005 is the best for me.
Fantastic tyre for the UK, just not the best in wear
@@tyrereviews not a problem. Swapping tyres I had to change tyres due to age not wear.
Really excited for the Michelin tire comparison. Also, have you ever considered comparing studless winter tires to studdable (but unstudded) winter tires? Here in southern Ontario, Canada, studded tires are not allowed, like in a lot of places, but studdable tires are still sold here and often are reasonably priced. For example the General Altimax Artic 12 is a studdable winter tire that is known to be a good value winter tire and is run by a lot of people without studs. But I've always wondered how it and others like it compare to studless winter tires, since every test I see about studdable tires never run them without studs.
I'm in discussions to do the studdable test next year :)
Yes, CC2 do slide a lot in the wet, I can confirm.
What size tire and on what car? I just ordered 4 for a 5,500 pound SUV 19". Weight makes a difference in performance.
@@Physics072 185/65 15" on a 2009 Dacia Sandero shitbox.
@@DashCamSerbia Dacia Sandero would slide even with wet tires 😅🤣...
@@XOR-Ale I don't mean latheral slide, I mean tyres sliding when accelerating from a stop and braking when it is wet.
In my climate there's no place for all-seasons, but somehow I still want to watch the video:)
:D hope you enjoyed
looking sharp mate
Really need this chanel in my life eheheh...subbed and like 👍
Would like to see some Weather Peak vs CrossClimate 2
A lot of interesting data, thanks for share. And in case - Cross Climate + has another one very safety important thing - these tires just ignore wheel track on moderate road. On classical summer tires its huge problem - handle car at hight speed when you change line or ahead of fast truck and so on.
Thanks for another nice video!
Personally I stick to two tyre sets, yet winter is my region is really unpredictable: one year it's wet and mild, and the other year - it's freezing cold and snowy. So I prefer a European winter tyre + summer tyre.
great video, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Really appreciated ur conclusion
And the combo summer /all season is maybe for most of europ the best choice except people in mountain or really southern
Again
Really happy to see a video like this one
So balanced
Glad you enjoyed :)
These videos are great! I hope you do the Nokian Outpost AT and APT and compare to other all weather/AT tires. Keep up the great work!
Working on this with Nokian :)
Love your videos! It would be great to see a comparison between all-weather and winter performance tires, something like Crossclimate 2 vs Pilot Alpin 5. Their designs look so different but should perform similarly in ice, snow, and dry at least on paper.
The Sport Auto test did that, linked in article :)
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Great, thanks! Wish they used the Alpin 5 instead of LM005 but still gives a pretty good idea. Crossclimate 2 is almost impossible to beat as an overall performer…
Tyre reviews is a great channel! Do you bicep curl them tyres onto the table? Because, it shows.
Every day is arms day :D
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