I had this exact issue today with that vibration/rattle noise when reeling in. I think it happened with the button locking mid cast as well. Anyways, I took my prorex apart today and found a thin metal part that was rubbing on the main gear teeth. I placed it back to normal position and its all good now. It was also cold and the line & t wing was icing up. I'm going to continue using it and maybe even contact Daiwa directly to notify them about this issue... it is kind of upsetting as I recently bought it expecting a top quality product.
Just thought I'd let you know I received my Shimano 23 Calcutta Conquest MD 401XGLH today and what a night and day difference. I'm still shocked at how the Shimano is even smaller, feels way smoother and built like a tank. Thank you for your content and advice!
Same exact problem broke mince twice. As I cast, the clutch engages and eats the clutch quite quickly overtime. First repair was done under warranty without questions asked. Then I forced myself to cast with the thumb bar down and with the power handle pointing the rod tip and it still would engage once in a while. I am now very disapointed and hoping to get this issue resolved as it is a pretty expensive reel that won't even perform well nor last in it''s designed category. The only thing they would have to change is the clutc spring and use hardened steel for the clutch barrel. If you are saying you have a no issues with the lexa 400 I might just go towards shimano because this reel is soooo bad. Thanks for your input by the way, I feel that i'm not alone with this issue. Also for casting big lures on a spinning reel, I just use my 4 fingers and never had any pain from the line pushing into them. Cheers from quebec, canada.
I sold all my shimano tranxs and daiwa prorexs, bought 3 shimano conquest mds and haven't looked back, difference is night and day, the MD isn't cheap, but worth it for the quality and resilience. Might buy a couple more after I get livescope and mega 360 installed, but gotta get my electronics installed on my boat first!
Either way I've been using the shimano tranx and Conquest md and they both don't do that, Conquest md is a dream. Glad I paid a little more money for the Conquest and have no problems whatsoever, landed a 53 spotted musky and 47 inch tiger on the Conquest md this year, if I had caught those fish on the Prorex don't know what could of happened. I need a reel that I rely on for casting big rubber and catching big musky. Daiwa has always known to have reliable issues if you read the musky forums, they make a good reel with all sorts of unique features, but they just never hold up compared to shimano.
Funny. I dont fish musky but I fish tarpon and snook with musky sized lures. Never a problem but I have had problems with shimano prematurely wearing. Tatula 300's mostly but also Lexas , have stood far better. You also cant self maintain the Tranx without killing the proprietary waterproofing goo. Do you know that all Daiwa's can be engaged simply by moving the thumb bar up with the palming hands thumb.
Was referring to the Daiwa TW, those do have a "stainless steel Pinion Gear" and are heavier duty for saltwater compared to the standard ProRexs. Only reason I didn't get that version is because they didn't have a 400 in left hand in the 42.9" per crank. But hey c'est la vie, I love my Shimano conquest md 400, what a beast and no problems, landed a 53 1/2" spotted and 47" tiger musky on my conquest md last year, live and learn! daiwa.us/products/lexa-tws "The reels feature a stainless steel Pinion Gear with a high grade brass gear, aluminum frame and side plate, and a swept Power handle with a custom EVA ..."
@@EternalAngler I’m interested in how this new model performs. Brass on brass or aluminium on brass are solid and tested combinations. A stainless steel pinion can crumble a brass main gear, producing more harm than good. Thanks to bring this new model to my attention, I would like to know what kind of steel they used (lc200n? H1?), hoping they have opted for a “soft” and truly stainless one.
@@i.a.c.o. "Brass on brass or aluminium on brass are solid and tested combinations." Not if the button is engaging, the Daiwa ProRex's biggest problem is button engaging, I'm not an engineer, but I suspect that's what messed up the gears and soon as the button engaged a few too many times, rounded out those gears and it no longer worked right after that 8 or 9th time the button engaged on me. I had a few spinning reels with the bail closing with flick of the wrist, like the Penn Squadron and the Quantum Boca, soon as I went to Shimano Stradic, didn't happen not once. I never had a button engage on the Shimano Tranx or Shimano Conquest MD either... Japanese have their engineering down with the Shimanos, just like they do with the megabass 110 series, as Randy says nothing comes close to the engineering to the Megabass ua-cam.com/video/0Tby6-MWMJ0/v-deo.htmlsi=Gw32OQg5fqIfe5bT&t=199, same could be said for Shimano reels, you get what you pay for... Daiwa needs a lot work, but I have heard from saltwater fishermen, some do claim the saltwater daiwa reels top some of the shimanos in some area, according to them when I posted a review of this daiwa setup for snook and rapala xrap glass ghost ua-cam.com/video/_G2Pp6YIcOU/v-deo.htmlsi=zfD9imMTn-KzpYyh
@@EternalAngler I’m not a Daiwa fanboy, last Daiwa baitcaster I bought was TD Pluton ~ 10 years ago (great reel tbh). We are saying the same thing. If the thumb bar fails I don't think having the steel pinion makes any difference, it might even be counterproductive.
I had this exact issue today with that vibration/rattle noise when reeling in. I think it happened with the button locking mid cast as well. Anyways, I took my prorex apart today and found a thin metal part that was rubbing on the main gear teeth. I placed it back to normal position and its all good now. It was also cold and the line & t wing was icing up. I'm going to continue using it and maybe even contact Daiwa directly to notify them about this issue... it is kind of upsetting as I recently bought it expecting a top quality product.
Just thought I'd let you know I received my Shimano 23 Calcutta Conquest MD 401XGLH today and what a night and day difference. I'm still shocked at how the Shimano is even smaller, feels way smoother and built like a tank. Thank you for your content and advice!
Same exact problem broke mince twice. As I cast, the clutch engages and eats the clutch quite quickly overtime. First repair was done under warranty without questions asked. Then I forced myself to cast with the thumb bar down and with the power handle pointing the rod tip and it still would engage once in a while. I am now very disapointed and hoping to get this issue resolved as it is a pretty expensive reel that won't even perform well nor last in it''s designed category. The only thing they would have to change is the clutc spring and use hardened steel for the clutch barrel. If you are saying you have a no issues with the lexa 400 I might just go towards shimano because this reel is soooo bad. Thanks for your input by the way, I feel that i'm not alone with this issue. Also for casting big lures on a spinning reel, I just use my 4 fingers and never had any pain from the line pushing into them. Cheers from quebec, canada.
I sold all my shimano tranxs and daiwa prorexs, bought 3 shimano conquest mds and haven't looked back, difference is night and day, the MD isn't cheap, but worth it for the quality and resilience. Might buy a couple more after I get livescope and mega 360 installed, but gotta get my electronics installed on my boat first!
5:07 you sure you pushed the button all the way down before you made that cast? It still shouldn’t do that.
Either way I've been using the shimano tranx and Conquest md and they both don't do that, Conquest md is a dream. Glad I paid a little more money for the Conquest and have no problems whatsoever, landed a 53 spotted musky and 47 inch tiger on the Conquest md this year, if I had caught those fish on the Prorex don't know what could of happened. I need a reel that I rely on for casting big rubber and catching big musky. Daiwa has always known to have reliable issues if you read the musky forums, they make a good reel with all sorts of unique features, but they just never hold up compared to shimano.
Thanks for the information! 🎣
Funny. I dont fish musky but I fish tarpon and snook with musky sized lures. Never a problem but I have had problems with shimano prematurely wearing. Tatula 300's mostly but also Lexas , have stood far better. You also cant self maintain the Tranx without killing the proprietary waterproofing goo. Do you know that all Daiwa's can be engaged simply by moving the thumb bar up with the palming hands thumb.
There are no stainless steel gears in these kind of reels (300/400 class) made by Daiwa or Shimano. Both Tranx and Conquest MD have brass gears..
Was referring to the Daiwa TW, those do have a "stainless steel Pinion Gear" and are heavier duty for saltwater compared to the standard ProRexs. Only reason I didn't get that version is because they didn't have a 400 in left hand in the 42.9" per crank. But hey c'est la vie, I love my Shimano conquest md 400, what a beast and no problems, landed a 53 1/2" spotted and 47" tiger musky on my conquest md last year, live and learn!
daiwa.us/products/lexa-tws
"The reels feature a stainless steel Pinion Gear with a high grade brass gear, aluminum frame and side plate, and a swept Power handle with a custom EVA ..."
@@EternalAngler I’m interested in how this new model performs. Brass on brass or aluminium on brass are solid and tested combinations. A stainless steel pinion can crumble a brass main gear, producing more harm than good. Thanks to bring this new model to my attention, I would like to know what kind of steel they used (lc200n? H1?), hoping they have opted for a “soft” and truly stainless one.
@@i.a.c.o. "Brass on brass or aluminium on brass are solid and tested combinations." Not if the button is engaging, the Daiwa ProRex's biggest problem is button engaging, I'm not an engineer, but I suspect that's what messed up the gears and soon as the button engaged a few too many times, rounded out those gears and it no longer worked right after that 8 or 9th time the button engaged on me. I had a few spinning reels with the bail closing with flick of the wrist, like the Penn Squadron and the Quantum Boca, soon as I went to Shimano Stradic, didn't happen not once. I never had a button engage on the Shimano Tranx or Shimano Conquest MD either... Japanese have their engineering down with the Shimanos, just like they do with the megabass 110 series, as Randy says nothing comes close to the engineering to the Megabass ua-cam.com/video/0Tby6-MWMJ0/v-deo.htmlsi=Gw32OQg5fqIfe5bT&t=199, same could be said for Shimano reels, you get what you pay for... Daiwa needs a lot work, but I have heard from saltwater fishermen, some do claim the saltwater daiwa reels top some of the shimanos in some area, according to them when I posted a review of this daiwa setup for snook and rapala xrap glass ghost ua-cam.com/video/_G2Pp6YIcOU/v-deo.htmlsi=zfD9imMTn-KzpYyh
@@EternalAngler I’m not a Daiwa fanboy, last Daiwa baitcaster I bought was TD Pluton ~ 10 years ago (great reel tbh). We are saying the same thing. If the thumb bar fails I don't think having the steel pinion makes any difference, it might even be counterproductive.
Lerrrrs…. That’s a new one for me.