Heljan Metropolitan Electric Unboxing & Review

[@warriorstar2517]

I've never really been interested in electric locos, but this one changed my tune! The paintwork is beautiful. It reminds me of the Pennsylvania Railroad 's GG1 type, which were the same colors, but instead of the squared off lining, they had gold stripes down the length of the body.

[@SamsTrains]

haha that's good to hear - it's the same with me really - such a beauty! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@superspidey901.]

It's the metropolitan Pullman service

[@jack_the_lantern7429]

The maroon LMS coaches looked fantastic with the Metropolitan Electric, Sam. Great review as always. :)

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - yeah I thought they looked okay with her too - luckily!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Owencr905]

Wow, different but cool! The colours on that are interesting...
Good work as usual Sam! Keep it up :)
P.s sorry for not joining the stream earlier, I was out at the severn valley railway again :D

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - yeah I agree, such a lovely livery! That's okay mate - hope you had a great time! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@hazyhope._.]

I guess I wasn't able to catch this video. Great review! The paint scheme looks extremely stunning. Not usually a fan of electric engines, but this changed my perspective.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh never mind mate - glad you liked this, and glad it changed your perspective! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@grahamsharpley4889]

I have just found this review, it is pretty accurate, i have lost the brake gear on one bogie, found it in pieces around the track. As for running it is superb. The carriages I use are from Hornbys Norfolk express blood and custard set and they look good behind the loco. Oh I have four of them of which 2 are Sarah Siddons. One in London transport and the other as preserved Met scheme as per you model. They used to pull six dreadnoughts as that was all that fitted on the shortest platforms then. The Met steam usually hauled 6 but often 4 or 5. Radley still do resin Dreadnoughts at an air sucking through the teeth price. I have several Harrow models white metal kits to build, maybe this coming winter. As i run a Met theme, also southern, i have some 57xx, E class to build, F class to build, an lner c13 as per Chesham shuttle’s also 41272 ivatt tank. I have most of the bachmann wagons and brake vans. I cannot remember what i paid for my locos but they are all well worth the price for the pleasure they have given me. The track is bare, I just visualise the scenery that they trundle through.
I have just motorised an efe tube set which really does not like my track, such is life.
I do enjoy your reviews Sam keep up the good work and thanks for you concise and dark humour.

[@ALLCAPS2317]

Random fact of the day:
This is the first Sam’s Trains video I watched!

[@SamsTrains]

haha awesome - glad to hear you stuck around!! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@SuperJacob2006]

Great Video Sam And I Like How That Engine Looks Similar To A Passenger Car

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Jacob, yeah me too!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@phil69881]

She's a gorgeous little thing! I'm glad you got one.... Especially Sarah Siddons.
I might add though... The things you called vacuum pipes are actually air brake pipes (train and main res), with the locos having 2 sets (an upper set and lower set) per end, with the vacuum pipe tucked in beside the screw link coupling, at both ends.
And on a diesel/electric loco, it's called a solebar, not a running board 😉😁
Keep it up Mr Sam.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Phil - glad you liked her!
Ahh my apologies - I thought they were all called vacuum pipes, I stand corrected!!
I'll need to remember the term solebar!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@victorywoo]

She looks like a fancily modified coach but I think that's makes her attractive even more! Great vid Sam, haven't been able to keep up with the clogged up subscription list lol

[@SamsTrains]

haha I agree - lots of people have called her a coach!! That's okay mate - thanks for dropping in!
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@richardlee653]

The coaches that remember these with were wood coloured, with compartments but no corridors. Like the rest of London Transport railways (except north from Rickmansworth), it ran on 4 rail track (2 running rails, one electric rail between the running rails, one outside).

[@SamsTrains]

That sounds very interesting - so quite similar to the LNER teaks then?? Thanks a lot for the info,
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@gcmet1063]

Great video Sam , Sarah Siddons was an actress from the 1800’s . I’ve got two of these locos and they both run really well but yours could have been sitting that box for about six years before you got it .
My local station used to be Rickmansworth where until 1961 these locos used to bring the trains from London and would come off to be replaced by a Stanier or Fairburn 2-6-2 tank loco to take the train on to Aylesbury . The loco change was done in under four minutes the worlds fastest loco change . My grandfather worked in coal yard at the station and when I went to see him I would always see at least three of these electric loco waiting in the siding ready to take over from the steam loco to take the train on to Baker Street or Liverpool Street . I think these locos feature on one the Railway Roundabout DVD’s showing the loco change . David

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot for the info on Sarah Siddons - much appreciated! That's true - I did give it some oil having seen her run badly, but just getting her run-in seemed to mitigate the problem!
Thanks for the interesting story - it's always fascinating to hear about railway history from different areas!! I'll have to look them up on Railway Roundabout!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@_chp_]

Funny enough i have a 7 1/4 gauge version of this! Runs quite smooth! A decent loco
Harvey

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh fantastic - I bet that's very impressive! You'll have to put it on UA-cam some time! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@PaulSmith-pl7fo]

Hi Sam. I really love this model - what a beauty!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Paul! :D

[@johntunicliffe9019]

Bought 2 metropolitan locos, even though I'm running a Southern layout. Superb locos.
Wish Hattons were doing a genesis to match.

[@trevorsowerby3060]

Hi Sam, now that's a gorgeous little loco. Loving the fine details and paint work!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Trevor - me too - the attention to detail here is just astonishing!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@DNash-wz3mz]

About whistles - Most early Electric stock in this country used Whistles right up into the 1960s. London Underground still only use whistles rather than horns, even on the latest stock to be built. I think the only other place in Britain where whistles are currently the standard is on the Isle of Wight, which of course uses ex-London Transport 1938 Tube Stock. Quite a few modern EMUs do have whistles fitted for depot or yard use, but they're not the standard across the network (Obviously).
I think one of the reasons why whistles are preferred on LU metals and in depots/yards is that the sound carries differently to a horn. A horn, when one stands close to it, is incredibly loud and gradually gets quieter the further away you stand. I think this is something to do with the way the air is forced out of it, but I'm not a physicist so can't say for sure. A compressed air (or steam) whistle, much like a an organ pipe in many ways, is more tolerable to stand near, but the sound still carries for a large distance. I think this is particularly key in tunnels (Which, naturally, are quite frequent on some parts of the Underground!!!) where such a loud blast as produced by a horn would reverberate around the tunnels, which probably wouldn't be good. Someone would probably be able to correct me on this.
Sorry, really minor point in the video but having wondered about it myself for a long time I thought I'd share!
As for Met No.12, as far as I'm aware she's not strictly speaking preserved and still belongs to TfL. For many years she was officially a 'Brake Block Test Loco' which to me sounds like a wonderfully inventive excuse for maintaining a loco like this on the books long after withdrawal. Definitely superior to the modern stock on the Met, and makes a cracking noise too (Old electrics really are not quiet!!!). I've recently managed to acquire some appropriate 'Dreadnought' coaches for mine (courtesy of Ebay) but it'd be useful if someone produced these ready to run.

[@SamsTrains]

Duly noted on all this mate, many thanks for sharing this info, much appreciated! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@tryffan-ddu009-layout9]

Superb review Sam. Perfect for my wartime livery. They took a lot of finding but I found and bought a pair for £107 each. Delighted with them and with their wheel configuration that handles my R1 and R0 track. Mine ran well straight from the box so I think you had very bad luck with yours. Looking forward to the Hatton genesis coaches (metropolitan livery). They should match very well.
Keep up the good work. Many thanks. J.T.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much - glad to hear you could find some too, and that you're happy with them!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@lukasruediger2910]

a wonderful loco! I've been in her cab once or twice; she really is quite something up close, and to think she still runs after 90 years too! I have been thinking about getting one for a while, that certainly is a great price.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Lukas - ooh really?! What's the cab like on the inside then??
They are great models anyway - as you can tell!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@peterharris3006]

This locomotive is in Metropolitan Railway livery, not LT. Sarah Siddons was a welsh actress who made her name on the London stage during the late 18th & early 19th C.

[@leroyholm9075]

Sarah Siddons never heard of here either. Who was she. She was a Welsh-born English actress born 5-7-1755! The elder sister of John Philip Kemble, Charles Kemble, Stephen Kemble, Ann Hatton and Elizabeth Whitlock and the aunt of Fanny Kemble. She was most famous for her portrayal of the Shakespearean character, Lady Macbeth, a character she made her own as well as for fainting at the sight of the Elgin Marbles in London. THEY NAME A LOCO AFTER HER INSANE OR WHAT!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks for the info - interesting stuff!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@jimross623]

Sarah Siddons was a Welsh-born actress born in 1755, dying in 1831. She was THE most famous actress in the 18th century, playing on Broadway in New York (there were no films in 1800) and was the first actress to become a millionaire, yes a millionaire around 1800! That must be close to being a billionaire, or more, now.

[@SamsTrains]

Duly noted Jim, many thanks for the background!
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@diamondsceptile5745]

Love your videos and love the locomotives that you show keep up the good work Sam

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much Diamond, much appreciated!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@trainman07011]

Interesting to see that the Underground was once locomotive-drawn. Once the NYC Subway was electrified it was EMUs all the way. Pity it seems they never put out the coaches.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I agree - it's pretty interesting I think!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@tankengine52produtions22]

I saw one of the wheels on the almost rear boogie is off the rail, you need a re-railer to help the engine staid on the track.

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah - I managed to put it on wrong, I didn't notice at the time! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@AmeryJunction]

Nice video , what a nice little loco . Metropolitans do have air whistles , like the modern tubes have . 😃

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - ahh interesting - so it was a whistle then! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@diamond_dude1011]

i looked her up on wikipedia. Sarah Siddons was a Welsh-born English actress, the best-known tragedienne of the 18th century. She was the elder sister of John Philip Kemble, Charles Kemble, Stephen Kemble, Ann Hatton, and Elizabeth Whitlock, and the aunt of Fanny Kemble.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh very cool - thanks a lot for looking her up!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@darrenmccoy]

One of the wheels is off the track during the slow running part and when you hook up the coaches.

[@nigelcarter9503]

The livery is smart looking. The finish is great. and, as you said the attention to it is well done.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Nigel - I agree, generally this is an all-round great model! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@onnomulder9775]

What a stunning loco!!!! Never seen it before! Regards Onno.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much Onno - yeah they're definitely quite unusual looking things! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@enricomariafozzi3339]

You have an old italian e444 and doesn’t seem too bad whit OO scale carriages! 👍👍👍

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah definitely - it's quite good! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@NorbertRoll]

Hi Sam, great review of a beautiful model loco of the Met, the London Underground. Several different versions available at Hatton's as bargain for only 74 GBP instead 139.95. Not so many people are interested in that model I think.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much Norbert - yeah absolutely, for £74 it was rude not to, haha! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@MrBnsftrain]

11:01 I think the closest thing you have to London Mtropolitan coaches are LNER teak coaches and LNER suburban coaches! But number 12 has pulled a lot of different types of coaches including a string of brakevans!
I really like this locmotive, and I might even get one someday!

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh duly noted - I'll have to give those a try with her! Thanks for the info!
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@johnjephcote7636]

One needs a range of plastic bodied LT brown 'T' stock behind it. Igrew up on the Met. with these, changing over at Rickmansworth for steam.

[@SamsTrains]

That sounds fantastic John, I'd love if those were produced!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@32Benjy32]

Fantastic review as always Sam, I'm waiting for the Heljan 009 Narrow gauge L&B 2-6-2T to be realised, it's £189 so I hope it's better than that Heljan tango 😂😂

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much mate! Ahh that's superb - I really hope it's good for you!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS]

Ah yes! The Met's second generation electrics. I love 600v DC stuff, and the bodywork on these locos is absolutely gorgeous. Heljan did a wonderful job modelling this, they even remembered the little air whistles.

[@SamsTrains]

Absolutely - yeah these really do look superb - at last, a top notch loco from Heljan! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS]

@@SamsTrains Indeed!
I hope someone does a soundset for this loco, as I cannot get enough of the whistles, air compressor chugging, and gear noises that the real life things make. It'd be an excellent addition to these locos. I've also seen some people fit small LED lights under those white 3rd rail fuses to simulate arcing!

[@TheBoComan-jm9qt]

What a beauty this Engine is

[@SamsTrains]

I agree! :D

[@TATICMOOR]

I thought about one of these but didn't know what to run with it. Tho your chosen coaches matched very well Sam, so I'd run a Met with my LMS Passengers and LMS Post Coaches. A very nice loco up close and great review to see your Met. Hopefully, even now (March 2020) I can buy one around the same price as they do look Superb. Here goes nothing to buying a Met and edit it this comment with the price later.

[@SamsTrains]

Go for it, they're pretty good models for the money I'd say! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TATICMOOR]

@@SamsTrains Yep I've decided I will do Sam, as this virus business is crazy, so I might as well treat myself to one (not the virus, but the Bo-Bo Met Loco - LOL). I've started to look around for the best price new or as a 2nd Hand Nr/MIB, but if you stop one let me know. Cheers - John.

[@newyorkandlakeshore3110]

It looks somewhat like a steam coach and it looks really good

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah I know what you mean - I thought that! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thomashambly3718]

The rust on my lantern survived my industrial sander, so I've applied about 70 coats of rust remover (a whole 2 teacups full) and I shall sand it off in the morning

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh blimey - here's hoping the rust goes away soon! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@alanfbrookes9771]

You could use BR non-corridor suburban stock with that loco. They used to work with them.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh duly noted! Thanks for that - I'll try it!
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@misterpaulgg3231]

Very nice model. Your critique seems to be rather objective so i ll take it into account next time i can makeit to the UK. Cheers sam!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much, I do my best to be objective! :D
Merry Christmas,
Sam :)

[@mikesanders5433]

Nice and interesting review Sam.
Also I enjoyed the live stream this morning servicing locos, thanks 😊

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Mike - and really glad you enjoyed the stream - I have a lot of fun doing them too!
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@mikesanders5433]

It reminded me that I need to check and service my G gauge LGB Stainz loco, it hasn’t been done in over a year. Plenty of grease required 😂

[@henrybn14ar]

Sarah Siddons was an actress. The locomotives were built in 1922, supposedly a rebuild of locos built in 1906 and 1910. No 12 is the only one running and was converted to for BR third rail and made excursions over the national system, including a visit to Brighton, in the 1980s.
www.flickr.com/photos/seadipper/3006033505
It really needs to run on track with the LT 4-rail system! Before 1939 there were two Pullman cars on the route. Trains were normally six coaches.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Henry for the info - appreciate it mate! It is a shame that Heljan havn't made anything else to go with these - track or rolling stock!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Sarah Siddons, née Kemble, (born July 5, 1755, Brecon, Brecknockshire, Wales-died June 8, 1831, London, Eng.), one of the greatest English tragic actresses. And yes, they did only have a whistle on the front; like an '08' shunter. Hope that helps mukka... cheers.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much for this Gary - yes I did look her up in the end! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Taggart00]

I was really tempted by this when it was in the summer sale. You could of run the Railway Children coaches with this as some of the coaches used for the film where Metropolitan ones.

[@SamsTrains]

haha - I know the feeling mate! Ahh duly noted - I'll have to try that some time! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@Taggart00]

It wouldn't matter if you didn't as Bachmann didn't use an accurate coach for it as the Met coaches didn't have corridors. I really need to ask at the Vintage carriages trust which coach in the train pack is meant to be which coach used in real life.

[@giovega3585]

Amazing review of the electric locomotive Sam trains 🚂

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Giovanni - glad you liked seeing an electric for a change! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@Louisianacentral8]

Love the London transport livery

[@SamsTrains]

Me too Grant! :D

[@Prin7er]

Thanx Sam. What a unique looking loco. Too bad it's out of my time era. Still, it's a very good looking piece.

[@SamsTrains]

My pleasure Scott - glad you liked it, shame it wouldn't suit your layout - I bet it doesn't suit most layouts ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@mikefletcher7072]

Hi Sam,
You might be interested to know that Hattons have Sarah (in current preserved livery) on special again for £69, with other variations from only £64.
I ordered Sarah on Boxing Day, and living in Australia did not have to pay VAT, so that more than covered cost of airmail postage to Australia!
I also ordered the Heljan EM2 "Diana" which is also on sale for £109. That means I "might" have to pay Australian GST when they arrive here, but that is only 10% c/w VAT @ 20%, so I'll still be in front.
:-)
I'll let you know if I do have to pay GST when it arrives, because other Australian subscribers might be interested - our laws on importing stuff valued at under A$1000 changed back in July.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much for that Mike - you can't say fairer than £64, fantastic price!! :D
Hope you enjoy your new purchases!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@mikefletcher7072]

​@@SamsTrains Hi again Sam. Just letting you know that both "Sarah" and "Diana" arrived safely today. (For other Australians - I did NOT have to pay GST when I collected them).
I was particularly impressed with Hatton's packaging. Many retailers simply shove products into a flimsy plastic satchel and hope for the best. Australia Post then do their best to destroy them.
If you read this in time, please pass on my sincere appreciation to the folks from Hattons when you see them later today. Heh, I last ordered from them in the 1970s! I'll probably not be able to join you in the live stream - it'll be 2am here. ;-)
Thanks also to yourself for your excellent genuine reviews.

[@bennickss]

Looks stunning sam!

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you - they did a good job with this one! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@DansModelBench]

The side bits near the cab,look to house marker lights

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh okay - thanks a lot for the info on that Dan! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@Yushir_o]

I find it ironic how they made an awful engine before, yet it feels like they watched that video of you reviewing it and are like: “we gotta fix our mistakes on this next engine”. Idk it’s just funny to me how they just had a change of wind for this engine.
Still, good work on reviewing the engine Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah I agree - although this model came before the O2 I believe - still, it's nice to see that they can produce decent stuff! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@johnarmstrong3782]

It isn't in London Transport livery. It's in pre war Met livery. Do you think LT would splash out on all that lining?! 😂

[@nicky8895]

It looks so elegant

[@SamsTrains]

I think she does too!! :D

[@petersmith4455]

great video sam. to let you know sarah siddons is at eastleigh wks under overhaul for motors and a re paint. regards peter. ex lul ltd.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot for the info Peter - let's hope she's better again soon!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@kingorry7223]

Ah, how I longed to see one of these on the channel

[@SamsTrains]

haha fantastic! I finally got around to it! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@a.r.productions]

Congratulations on 30k!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much for the support mate - much appreciated! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@superspidey901.]

Let's add some
Pullman coaches together then it will be the metropolitan Pullman service

[@SamsTrains]

Great idea! :D

[@Heroduothecomedian]

Anyone beside me started having the song "baker street" start playing in there head when sam said baker st? Lol

[@SamsTrains]

haha I'm sure there will be some, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@STOP_red_light]

It helps if you have all wheels on the rails Sam! The rear bogie is not fully on the rails on the initial running test. :oD

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah you're right! ;D

[@KameronCousin]

This was a very nice review Sam.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Kameron! :D

[@KameronCousin]

You're very welcome. :)

[@arman2f218]

Very interesting review! Could you do more electric locos?

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - and yes, more electrics coming soon! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@patrickwebb7311]

That was a lot of fun to see. I do like the Metropolitan Electric. Since you mentioned Hatton's, did you hear they're coming out with a rail gun? That might be fun to look at, though it might scare Bullman! Also, I still feel sorry for the O2. I really like the class, and to not do them justice in such a way is so unfair. Hope it's fate is merciful, though I know my idea #SavetheO2 #o2Project rebuild was a little far fetched. Good video as always Sam. :)

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Patrick - glad you liked her, I'm a big fan too! Yes oxford are - I'm really looking forward to getting mine!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jackclarke1220]

Very nice... Although I'm a Diesel Electric fan myself... Especially the Class 50s like Rodney which you really should do a review on!

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks a lot Jack - you won't let me forget Rodney will you?? ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jackclarke1220]

Sam'sTrains Nope! ;p

[@sirtophamhat7038]

I don't really like electric locomotives but this one is a very beautiful loco!👌I like the livery too!!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - glad you liked this one! I'm not usually a huge fan either! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TomPrickVixen]

I looked this loco a few times too. It is nice ,but do to its antecedents, and the 3rd rail system only design, it looks alien on any regular layout, specially without matching rolling-stock.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh thanks Tom - that's true though, it's hard to find a layout that will make good use of this!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@kingorry7223]

Yeh, the coaches are called dreadnought coaches and are available from radley models

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh nice! I'll look those up - thank you! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@marcod1600]

This is a very nice loco Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Marco - I thought it was too!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@Trainboy2005]

This looks really good. The engine is very detailed.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Trainboy - really glad you liked it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@Just-chilling978]

Sam can you please make a video of the top 50 fastest Train going on your tracks and it live?📹🚄🚅🚈🚞🚝🚂🚆

[@SamsTrains]

haha the top 50?! That'd be a lot of filming - great idea though!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ciaranburrows1914]

An idea for an exuse to run it again is an old electrics running session!

[@SamsTrains]

Absolutely!! I will have to do this!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@harrytodhunter5078]

£74 is an astonishingly good price for one of these!

[@SamsTrains]

haha I agree - such a bargain!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@erincb9499]

You look like a really nice guy. Someone I’d be friends with....keep up the good work!!!!

[@erincb9499]

Not in a creepy way tho

[@SamsTrains]

haha that's very kind of you - thanks so much! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@georgetimperley8906]

I wish all diesels and electrics were as good looking as that and I don't know if anyone makes them but you could have a third Rail on one of your 3 tracks

[@SamsTrains]

I agree - I'd like Electrics a lot more if they all looked like this! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@garethw8884]

Hello Sam just watching your video another lovely loco. I also followed your link to the hattons website and I must say the one that's caught my eye even more is the war time grey it looks stunning. Keep up the great work mate
Cheers Gareth

[@SamsTrains]

Hey Gareth, thanks for the comment mate - yes the grey ones do look very attractive too - do you fancy one then?? ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@garethw8884]

I would love to get the grey one bit as I have spent about £218 already this weekend on my trains perhaps not this month
Gareth

[@PuuberZ]

Hi Sam, just wondering if you could talk about "Running in" a new loco in a future video.
It could be very useful to people new to the hobby. I know it's something that used to confuse me when i first started.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah sure! I could talk about that again! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@MultiDell90]

Heyy sam notice !!
One of wheel of loco is off the rail haha 13:02 - 13:50 look carefully :p
Finally you filmed the review of this loco 😜 that’s good I was waiting I really like this locomotive. I saw this locomotive at london transport museum it is very beautiful and even I saw model of this loco but that time I already bought bachmann class 37 from another shop so I didn’t buy it.Soon I will buy from hattons maybe after 2 months. Locomotive doesn’t have red marker lights ?

[@SamsTrains]

Hey! Thanks for the comment - and very well spotted, I didn't notice this when filming!
Yeah I finally got around to it - and awesome, glad you were able to see one - I don't think I ever have!! Ahh awesome - I hope you're able to get one! No I don't think this has the red lights :/
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@badlyfilmedproductionspres8022]

Adding on about Sarah Siddons.. There is a statue of het on Paddington Green

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh is there really? I'll have to look that up! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@Just-chilling978]

Sam! Can you please make a video of the top 10 strongest train on your tracks?

[@SamsTrains]

I could definitely try that - great idea! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@FlyingScotsmanFan]

Sorry im late but that colour scheme does look very good. For me the bogies are a little bit too gray

[@SamsTrains]

No problem mate! Yeah I love the scheme too - ahh you mean the pick-up shoes?? Yeah they are a funny colour actually!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@geoffryllewellyn7693]

To make it look really "proper" , you would need a third rail system, can you buy track with third , or even fourth rail (a la underground)? cheers

[@SamsTrains]

That's certainly very true - I would love to see a proper London Underground layout from this era - that'd be very fascinating!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@superspidey901.]

If you want to make the metropolitan pullman service repaint the whole engine in chocolate and cream livery

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh good idea!! :D

[@johnwalsh6844]

That's one cool looking loco. Got to get me one. Thanks

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks John! They are still in the sale actually - there's a link in the video description - £74 is not to be sniffed at! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ModelRailwaysUnlimited]

Hi Sam, they are very interesting. I really wanted the one named 'Sherlock Holmes' but sadly Heljan only made a few and they sell at mad prices. I wonder how this runs on smooth DC control? I heard a few others found PWM did not bring out the best performance. Great video. Sarah Siddons was a Welsh-born English actress, the best-known tragedienne of the 18th century

[@SamsTrains]

Hey Mike! Ahh sorry to hear that - Hatton's do still have a select few on sale, though I'm not too sure which - link in the description if you're interested!
I did run this in using my bench power supply initially, which does have the smoothed output - the performance was much the same on there, but it's slightly better now that it's clocked up a few hours running!
Thanks for the info on Sarah Siddons - my ignorance showing through again there ;)
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@SpottingWithSam]

Wow what a lovely loco great video!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - really glad you liked old Sarah! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@theavocetpannier84]

Great review Sam! I have always been interested in them but in the grey livery. Are they DCC ready?

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Owen, and yes the grey is very smart too! These are indeed DCC ready!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@markaous1212]

beautiful review Sam, i have wartime grey myself. have been looking forward to your review. I adore the easy mixing of yours and crimson stock. its the most steamless, dieselest and quietest video yet haha
you mentioned about heljan details, any advice on removing warehouse added details from the heljan class 17? i get a lot of derailing but not a fan of starting to hack or pull at brake pipes. many thanks and thank you for an enjoyable video. Mark

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Mary! They grey looked very good actually - it was hard to choose between them! I'm not too sure about the Class 17, that's not one that I have - but I'll let you know my thoughts if I ever get one!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@stardust5379]

The name on the front plate means you should play Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty when you run it. 🎷

[@SamsTrains]

haha love it!! xD

[@JonatanGronoset]

I love the met lekkies, very beautifully styled units they were, the lining is delicious and I could only imagine what she would look like with matching clerestory or period coaches. Speaking of beautiful electrics, would you considder looking up the Trix E3/6 for a review? I'm quite curious what you'd think of that. (PS: Found one on ebay from Rails of Sheffield for £149, quite a bargain)

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate, me too! I agree - it's a shame there aren't some proper coaches to run with them! Yeah I could definitely look that one up - thanks for the idea!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ArthurAndNormandyFan1]

Great video Sam I had to get up really early in the morning well worth it lovely loco. It is scary to so many new Hornby and Bachmann locks in my local store considering it is second hand.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh - hope you're okay after your early start! Glad you liked the loco anyway - and I know, there are so many different models to choose from!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ArthurAndNormandyFan1]

yes I was fine great video again

[@shawnd-v8713]

That is a cute little engine

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Shawn! :D

[@jamestalbot4900]

Nice to see a very different loco Sam, looks lovely. I do think you’re being unnecessarily harsh re the O2, it looks like a relatively isolated quality issue. It would be good to follow any response Heljan give if you let them know.
This looks lovely. I’d say “pair of couplings” ;), and I think solebar is the word you were searching for to describe the frames. I’ve never considered getting one until this review, it may be gushing but it looks justified. It might have to go on the wish list. Shame about the running, the Heljan diesel/electric chassis are usually excellent (except for the early class 17s)
On your next Thomas video could you give a shout out to my boy please? He’s 3, his name is Sebastian and he loves watching Sams Trains.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot James - I agree that some of the issues with the O2 could have been a one-off, but the poor quality mechanism, unrealistic finish, and unacceptable list price are pretty consistent!
haha pair of couplings sounds much better - lol! Ahh yes - I'll need to remember the term solebar!
I can definitely do shout-outs on the next series of live streams - I'll put him down! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@jamestalbot4900]

Sam'sTrains Brilliant, thank you.
True, the list price is poor and the finish lacks... something. I’ll see what mine looks like once thoroughly weathered.
Now, is this loco as well decorated as the SECR P class or GCR D11?

[@MayoHosko]

Have you reviewed that white diesel with the blue chassis in the background in the sidings. If not I would die to see a review of it

[@SamsTrains]

Yes I think so - I did that during a live stream, if you can find it?? :D It's a Lima Blister loco!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@daniel14duck33]

This engine looks really cool and great review

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - glad you liked it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@lukefrench3154]

I think you should try get a class 76 or 78 em2 …. would be good

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh good ideas Luke, I can definitely look into those!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@elirussell5940]

Electric locomotives are amazing! I would get one of these but the thing is I don’t really know much about Heljan. Are they a good company? I decided to get a Pennsylvania railroad GG1 from Bachman for Christmas and I will definitely collect more electric locomotives I might even buy one of these heljan metropolitan electrics with Christmas money.

[@SamsTrains]

I agree Eli - I've had a lot of bad experiences with Heljan, but this is one of their better quality models! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@elirussell5940]

@@SamsTrains hello, sorry for the late reply. are heljan usally good quality? how many of their models are better quality?

[@TheTWRModeller]

Sarah Siddons was a Welsh-born English actress.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks for this - my apologies for my ignorance!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@StaxRail]

Don't get me wrong, this is a beautiful engine. However, as you stated there is no rolling stock for it and there isn't really many layouts that could get away with running it.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate - yes you're right - such a strange choice for Heljan to produce.... and why not produce the coaches too, so people have a reason to buy them?!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@sirmugman]

i like it! almost looks like one of those san fan sisco trams but its not, more trams to come sam?

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah it does actually - it really doesn't look all that British! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)

[@ufg2036]

Another beautiful electric loco is the Pennsylvania railroad GG1

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh right! I'll have to look that one up - thanks for the tip off! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)