Authorities reveal final hours of South Carolina pastor’s wife | Vargas Reports
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
- Authorities now say Mica Miller, the wife of a South Carolina pastor, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound after calling 911 saying she was about to kill herself. Correspondent Rich McHugh joins NewsNation's "Elizabeth Vargas Reports" with the latest details in the case as Miller's family remains skeptical of what authorities are saying.
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Abusers always say they never hurt their victim
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DV survivor here!! Your spot on
Exactly. Nobody would actually admit their part.
This needs a private investigation
He appears to be a malignant narcissist. Even if she took her own life, a malignant narcissist would have had a hand in driving her to such an extreme action.
@@johndoe-ln4oi I agree to a degree. He has some sort of personality issue. I do not apply diagnosis outside of ethical boundaries though. I wouldn't call him a narassict until assessments were done.
@@holli9511 Sure, my opinion isn't a professional one, and I am only making an informal, outside observation based on what I can see. I just have decades of experience with a family member who is a malignant narcissist, and this pastor appears to check a lot of the boxes.
@@johndoe-ln4oi I completely understand where you are coming from and I have no doubt he will manipulate more close people because he doesn't seem like he is trying actively change
He killed her spirit. He used her mental health against her. He will face His maker one day.
her mental health issue..he created due to his abuse.
There is no compelling evidence she killed herself. This reporter sucks he just follows what police said
Cry about it
He killed more than her 'spirit!"
“Face his maker” are you from the 1800’s?
I was going through a bad divorce. My husband WANTED to be a pastor, and he was a charmer at church, and emotionally abusive at home. I was too terrified to tell anyone at church, since they all LOVED him. All he would have to do would be to point out how "spiritual" he was, and how depressed and crazy I was "for no reason", and they all believed him. I finally left and had many hard years. But I am remarried now and so happy. No one knows how abusive he was behind closed doors. Every thought he had was from the Holy Spirit, and he pointed out that every thought I had was from the devil.
I understand and agree with you! Glad things are good for you now! Praise God!
So glad you got out. So did I. I had many hard years too but I'm grateful to God he got us through it and we are better for it! Best is yet to come!
Yup. Sounds familiar . Nowhere to go.
That's why no really go to church to proof u are a good person ,only devil always show their fake good face to public a real angel no need to do that
Wow! See, I think he used witchcraft on her. I think she did commit S, but I believe she was under intense spiritual, and mental abuse. People that spiritually and mentally abuse others can control them. I feel terrible this happened to her…
I still don’t trust the pastor. He’s shady.
He preached an entire sermon and then told the congregation “oh by the way my wife committed suicide”. WTF who does that?
@@69Ameristang there is something off about that guy and I don’t like him. Not that I know him or anything.
@@69Ameristang no good, caring person would do that. I don’t care if it’s your soon to be ex. Nobody is going to take the news so flippantly then just go about their day.
did you hear house he was having his sermon talking about his wife having mental issues and about her meds. how is this man even a pastor it goes to show.
Huh - What's new? Religion reeks!
The fact that he even got up and preached immediately after...
He’s a narcissist.
No matter what he did you emotionals would poopoo
@@anthonypuzyn3403 it has nothing to do with my emotions but everything to do with questioning how he emotionally could get up and preach a sermon the next day. Could you?
Exactly, I feel like he manipulated her into killing herself taking advantage of her mental state
There is something very wrong with all of this. Even with the 911 call, something isn’t sitting right.
Police are probably in with the cover up.
That's called cognitive distortion enabled by too much true crime emersion...
Freemasonry!
@@Chad_Max Yep, people dont want to believe that people sometimes just have an imbalance and often times untreated issues. People also for some reason refuse to believe that perhaps the medications they get put on alter their memory and mind. For all we know she slashed her own tires etc.
@@GamerNxUSNStop the madness w/your comment. It has no validity.
Please ppl stop calling this person a pastor, he's not even close
He IS a pastor, whether you like it or not, and pastors sound incredibly unethical and immoral is is practically the norm.
He’s pure evil ❗️😈
@@jbates725there’s 1000s and 1000s of pastors.
That’d be like me calling teachers immoral because the number of them getting caught sleeping w students has risen.
@canefan17 And there's zillions of cases of them being predators and perverts and adulterers and murderers. Everyone knows that your religion creates the perfect power dynamic imbalance and mask for predators to hide behind that attracts predators and creates even more sickness. This is common knowledge, and well documented.
@@jbates725 definitely NOT the norm. No one is perfect but Christ, however no, most pastors are not horrible people willingly doing harm to others.
The pastor announced the news to his congregation in the most controlling way. He announced her death after his sermon at the end of church and told his congregation not to talk about it in the church. It screams narcissist. Now the world is talking about it. You don’t think he stuck a gun to her head and told her to call 911? Or, was so controlling he manipulated her to go buy the gun. I wish authorities looked deeper into this.
They have surveillance video and he never entered the hotel, the elevator ect. There is no entrance without a camera and he is not spider man. There is no need to look deeper into anything.
@@bookbag6432 Many abusers don't need to physically be there to control someone mentally. That is my point. Authorities need to look into phone records, emails, her video posts, electronics, and journals. The Crumbly's didn't shoot up their son's school but they were charged with involuntary manslaughter.
@@AbbiedeVeraJackson
You've got no case Abbie.
@@AbbiedeVeraJacksonexactly Abbie. The Crumbleys are in jail/prison for something their son did with ZERO planning on their part.
@@seeharvester Michelle Carter was charged with involuntary manslaughter. She pushed Conrad Roy to take his life. She didn’t pull the trigger, but she was found guilty. JP Miller is an abuser and needs to be kept accountable. Period.
I pray this isn't swept under the rug as just a suicide. Family needs a 2nd opinion
Yes, they need to investigate. Was she alone at that park?
It will did you not hear the pigs? I mean cops
Man y'all were letting this guy lead your services!?! What a guy!!! Out of all people he should be able to take rejection!!!
you forget that Organized Religion is all about CONTROL = then it will make sense to you
She parked it on “forcing you to take illegal drugs.” That is very telling. I left a DV relationship too, and I can read her eyes. So very tragic and needs to be addressed.
Just like with the Boeing whistleblowers, this STINKS and is very fishy to say the least.
Absolutely agree with you. Something is fishy with this case. For years Drew Peterson third wife death was ruled accidental but when his fourth wife Stacy Peterson went missing her body was exhumed and later ruled a homicide.
Never hurt her? He cheated on her.
AGREED!!! It's been shown that April 1st he was chatting up a girl for nudes... dude is suspect
Lots of men cheat, it doesn't make them killers...
So very sad for her. There’s more to the story! 🤔she looked healthy and so pretty! 😔
@@Gummybear0219Nyah, official pastor stuff. He’s as cred as Chad Daybell 😮
@@HeadNtheClouds Chad is the worst, sin't he? So creepy these "godly" men are!
Even if she died of suicide, he drove her to it. He was abusive and stalking her. She probably thought it would never end.
yesh :(*
Yes exactly my thought
You said that right. Stalkers will never stop, even if they aren’t there, they always are up to something shady. Victims feel like they can’t even step outside for fresh air. It’s wild
He did so sad
So who slashed her tire and put a tracking device on her car? Seems like someone was out to get her.
Someone? This all happened after she served him with divorce papers.
I read somewhere that her husband had the tracking device on her vehicle . No good !
@@karinaz8756they said she filed for divorce two days before her death. All that happened in two days?
How does one know a tracking device is on their car
She sounds like someone who had been gaslighted a lot.
It is not unheard of for a man to hold the gun and force a woman to say what she said ! This is highly suspicious! They need to keep investigating this oh but cops are dirty too!
lol all cops are dirty?
And how do you know they aren’t investigating it behind the scenes?
Absolutely agree. Well said. Look what happened to Drew Peterson's third wife ( ruled accidental for years) until he did it again to his fourth wife Stacy Peterson who remains have yet to be found. The family should definitely seek an outside investigation.
@@ChelseaBrown-fz1mjI agree! My mother was with a man who’s wife “offed herself” I was 6 and I remember him beating my mom while telling her if she tried to leave him again “I’ve already had one k4lled and made it look like she done and I will do it again” I’m 35 and that memory has stuck with me…needless to say he died a slow death and both of his sons went to prison and one son even told the cops his dad had his mom offed but those cops in this town were so dirty
@@PinkPaws88 Sorry that you had to live through something like that. I pray that you can forget about that statement he made years ago and start your healing. I pray that Mica's family seeks outside investigation and gets a second opinion. The family of Drew Peterson's third wife's death was ruled accidental but that changed after Stacy Peterson went missing and yet to be found. Her actual death was not accidental but instead a homicide. Thank you for sharing and prayers for you.
The evidence is pretty conclusive. There’s video of her alone that whole day and none of the witnesses reported any signs of anyone being with her when she died. They should definitely keep investigating him for all the other things he was accused of like having groomed her since she was 10, stalking her, drugging her, etc tho
This church has turned a blind eye to all of what she went through and so did the authorities
REALLY!!! FLIRTING TO ANOTHER WOMAN , TO THAT WAITRESS !!!
And then saying ‘a lot has been going on’ “lol” when the waitress asked what’s up a few days later 🤢
He was inappropriate in church services too, I’m sure there’s other victims too.
Get out !!!. I had 3 relationships like this,and I could have died,but God protected me. I live alone now,no husband,and doing well.😊
I also had 3 husbands I wouldn’t wish on anyone and now at 66 happily single and will never date or marry again, what sweet peace!
Her husband can say he has never hurt her but abuse doesn't have to be physical. It can be mental or emotional and it can be just as devastating especially if the person turns everyone against you and tells stories about you.
Exactly.
OJ also said he never hurt his wife.
Poor Ms Simpson n Goldman 😢
Her video is so telling. Especially when she says “if you’re given illegal drugs” … I am so sorry sweet beautiful lady. I know God has wrapped you up in his arms. Rest easy sweet lady.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Yes , that was emphasized wasn't it ?
1. There is zero evidence of a soul 2. If you are ignorant enough to "believe" something without reason or evidence, the you can't repent of murdering yourself, now can you? No hope for this "sweet lady." She doesn't even exist anymore.
Her husband is still a horrendous person. No matter what the COD is.
Her crappy husband drove her to it !
Or perhaps someone from her online presence drew her into something she was not prepared for.
There is no evidence she did that.
@@crxesswhat’s the story there? She was a part of a lot of online communities?
Don't blame others for your suicide. The life is in your hand you make the decision.
She needs to be accountable, sorry you disagree
So have they traced his cell phone and location around this time? They still need to investigate the husband. He is shady as hell. He was trolling for other women while married to Mica
I think they said he was at a tournament out of town that weeknd.
@@reginaphalange2023With no chance to slip away?? And return before anyone would notice?
Ikr, right? A person could plant their phone in someone else's place or car (for example), slip away for some time and come back with no one realizing it...
@@e.k.severson They have video footage of his Truck , do you people not check all the info on this case or just pick and choose what makes it look like someone else murdered her? Many husbands /wives have affairs and are scumbags but don’t end up killing their wife or husband. Most of the comments on here are Conspiracy Theories from people who want her husband to be guilty no matter what .
A trolling married man is not evidence of anything, except the guy is breathing.
No married person has NEVER hurt their spouse in ANY way. He’s clearly a huge liar, gaslighter, and manipulator. May God deal with all involved as He sees fit. HIS will be done! In Jesus name! 🙌
Stop it
You don't live in the real world do you?
@@bipolarcolliewell they’re not calling themselves bipolar collie so there’s that
#Justice4Mica
She changed her number over 3 times within 3 months so he wouldn't contact her, got slashed tires, and dead 2 days after her divorce.
Yeah, he was most likely stalking, being a creep, and had a toxic obsession with her and she couldn't handle it bcz what is police gonna do about a stalker? Nothing until they do something
Add on said guy is her spouse
@@CatchthiswaverThe "pastor" admitted to slashing her tires, AND putting a tracker on her car, dude's mental
I believe that she went and bought that gun to protect herself. He had the tracking device on her vehicle. I do not believe this is suicide. I think he made her make that phone call and then he shot her.
My thoughts too. Maybe he threatened someone close to her that he would kill them if she didn’t pull the trigger or make the call. She probably knew all the evil he was capable of.
yeah people would normally not call the police before suicide that's so weird
That’s far fetched. I think she had major mental issues and killed herself period
@@theemeraldcity94 wow that’s a good assumption 🙄
@@Sebastian-dx2xgTypical man.
The husband should be liable.
The pastor is guilty
God only knows ❤ !
I’ve had “those” thoughts since I was a teenager. I am a 42 year old mother. I am bipolar like Mica. Yes, it seems suspicious, but some insight - you ask anyone in my life even family and no one would ever think that I struggle with these thoughts fairly regularly. Outward emotions and plans, even hair appointments or happiness at jobs or feeling hopeful and looking forward to things does not mean that it cannot flip on a dime and turn very dark. Mica struggled outwardly and she likely struggled 10-fold inwardly to where no one saw. She was determined (exceptionally sadly) and a gun would give her finality, no out… unlike pills or another means, it would give her the resolve she was seeking.
This is hard to digest for people that haven’t struggled with the depression that she and some of us do or have never had thoughts of self deletion. There’s a testimony of her up on Vimeo where she literally says she’s attempted “it” in the past with a gun but it jammed and that was God.
JP is guilty of a million deplorable things for what he did to her, too many to list and I do believe he’s guilty of driving her to this.
If you think bipolar means you “can flip on a dime” you have probably been misdiagnosed.
@@asynchronicityit can vary per individual obviously but yes there is indeed ultra rapid cycling where moods can change within a day’s span. My overall point is that just because someone is outwardly hopeful and happy, that doesn’t mean they’re not capable of doing what she did - I was attempting to provide insight, but you want to question my diagnosis?
It’s odd that even in the face of all of the evidence that’s been released that people are refusing to acknowledge that her mental state could have been anything other than what she portrayed outwardly.
@@cantthinkofone6995 That isn’t what “rapid cycling” means. I’d recommend a second opinion, definitely. Not that you don’t have genuine psychiatric challenges….it’s just that what you are describing isn’t really bipolar disorder. Good luck.
@@asynchronicityare you bipolar. How do you know how she feels 🙄
@@Sebastian-dx2xg I’m not talking about how she feels. I’m talking about a wrong diagnosis about how she feels and functions. Try to read for comprehension. Jfc🤦♂️
Doesn’t smell right
It cost me thousands of dollars over a 3 year period in attorney fees that included restraing orders, court costs, and then after divorce finalized, then there was court for division and sale of assets. It was a nightmare that I never thought would end that included simular sabatoge and harassment like Mica described. It was almost more than I could bare even though I was mentally as strong as any normal person could be. Poor Mica struggling with mental vulnerability against this type of monster was obviously more than she could take. Rest peacefully in the arms of your Lord Mica. Your struggle is over. 🙏😢
The cost is great. I hope, I hope and pray you came through this and are in a better place. So sorry you had to go through all that, it must have seemed like an eternity.
I wonder if the husband was out at the park with her, forcing her to say those things before he killed her?
Just so sad. Rest in peace beautiful Mica. 💜
The pastor thought he was a player 😂😂
What is the proof she did this to herself?
The 911 call and all sorts of documentation. The sheriff did a thorough job. But she was not hiding the evidence. So very tragic.
What proof that she did herself in ! 😊
Sounds like there was surveillance video and other evidence
Where was he when she did this?
People who commit suicide frequently make plans for the future. Depression isn’t always this 24 hour overwhelming sadness that’s easy to detect. Sometimes something triggers folks and they just decide now’s the right time. Not saying he didn’t contribute to her death, but we need to understand that suicide often doesn’t seem to make sense to outsiders.
This. It could be that any other day she would have been fine but that day she wasn’t. It’s tragic
In 1986 when I killed myself it was a speratic thought brought on by traumatic events. It was not planed. Obviously I'm alive and that was because the first responders got me to the hospital and they were able to bring me back. Spent a couple weeks in the loony bin then I was better. I'm retired now had two great kids and life is good. People sometimes do stupid stuff that just can't be explained to or by healthy people.
Exactly. This just happened with a guy I know who was going through a divorce. He seemed to be doing well after accepting that the divorce was going to happen. He got a new job that he liked, was spending more time with friends, and seeing his kids on a regular basis. One day he had an argument with his soon to be ex-wife and killed himself. It seemed like his life was on the upspwing, but that’s how it looked to all of us on the outside. It’s impossible to know what private struggles people have when no one else is around.
Just stop. She was in abusive relationship and trying to leave. She didn’t kill herself. Her husband’s lack of remorse says it all. Who do you think slashed her tires and put a tracking devise on her car?? You think she got a restraining order on him for FUNSIES? He killed her.
And hes had a girlfriend for awhile. Hes never hurt her????
1:52 “whether that’s someone forcing you to take illegal drugs” was VERY telling - her demeanor changed. Lord only know what this man did to her 😢
Something isn't right. He's dating a woman whose husband was paralyzed went swimming and died. Now his wife is moving on and deletes herself. No way.
He damaged her so much she didnt want to live how sad. Who would want this person as a pastor.
Can he be charged with stalking to the point of some form of manslaughter?
Is it a crime to drive someone to suicide?
He didn’t kill her but he did kill her. He killed her heart, her mind and drove her to it I’m sure which is so so sad
Depression CAN look like pure happiness to the outside world. He def drove her to her breaking point smh
He’s saying she had mental illness and not even looking like he’s sorry
People who think that just because someone was living a normal life and had plans isn't suicidal, are just incredibly naive.
he cannot be immune to the cause of her taking her life --- he should not be pastoring a church he is a monster to air out their problems and speak at church about micas mental health. Please i hope their are charges brough against him he does not deserve to live a peaceful life!!!!!
He started an affair with her when she was 14 yrs old while he was married and had children. Her sense of Male power over her was ultimately impossible to overcome ... her sense of failure, shame and self worth. RIP dear ...❣️☘️
Hhow.do you know.this? Is that public information?
He claims he never hurt her? He had SEVERAL AFFAIRS.
And just like that, its a suicide...
Remember that lady who disappeared and her body was found burned in the forest and her car abandoned? She was declared a suicide as well. Not buying it with her, and not buying it with Mica.
@@Gobble_de_Goop I suggest you read up on Occam's razor...
@@Gobble_de_Goopwhich case is that
It sounds like they have cc footage that indicates it is.
@rennayvidal2967 Debbie Collier from Georgia, in 2022. She had Venmo'ed her daughter $2500 after disappearing (and the daughter was a heroin addict with a criminal background), and when she was found her clothing had been removed and she had burns marks all over. Police claimed it was a suicide.
Unless she shot herself on video, I'm still not buying it. Just because she was shot with a gun, she bought does not mean that she pulled the trigger. Gunshot residue on her hands? Wouldn't you be trying to fight with someone to turn the gun away from yourself? If so, where would your hands be?
They released the 911 call of her calling 911 and telling them she was going to kill herself
This "preacher" is not a Christian. His heart is not right with God. He was the cause of her wanting a divorse. Any man who announces the death of his wife in such a cavalier manner makes for doubts and questions. He will have to give account before God one day.
The husband is a monster..ppl in her family knew she was abused because she told them
It was said her sister said if anything happens to me he did it.
No woman has ever lied about abuse.
Getting a divorce in SC is not a quick, easy process. You have to be separated for a year to have a divorce granted. It’s not exactly ideal when abuse is at play. Having to fear for your life, deal with tires being slashed, finding tracking devices on your vehicle, etc. for a full year trying to just finally be free of your abuser is certainly part of what led her to do this desperate move.
He did it
He CAUSED her to do it though. He sucked the life out of her.
Exactly!
Always can count on a woman to run away from accountability....
Chad, how does it feel to be a grown man living in your moms basement playing video games and doing nothing with you life but leaving troll comments on social media posts? Grow up.
@@stephanied9629 thank u
My God?! 🙏❤️
This is so sad...
What if he husband forced her to make that 911 call to make it look like suicide??
Then they need to find proof that he forced her to do it
Nah, this is a case of Occam's razor. This was a suicide plain and simple. Mental health is a major issue in this country....
As we can see with you, Chad
Unfortunately Chad's mom was prolife
Was he stalking her?
The pastor probably FORCED her to make that phone call!!!
That wouldn't make any sense
It’s just so eerie seeing her smiling while looking down at the gun she was purchasing to end her life. Part of me wonders if she wasn’t buying it for protection and things just went south from there.
I noticed her smiling to that's heartbreaking I bet she knew her problems were fixing to end smiling and being sweet this is awful her husband drove her to this
"Those videos are no longer online"---Uhh, its the internet Elizabeth. Those videos might not be viewable on the church website but they ARE STILL ONLINE!
Lol @ you calling her by her name
The pastor girlfriend likely played a part. She’s needed to be investigated
There is so much pain in her eyes.
Sad for a life to end this way.
Justice For Mica!!
🙏🏻🙏🏻😥😥🙏🏻🙏🏻
He was probably abusing her!
He was
You're probably abusing me.
Grow up
Wow, a pastor nonetheless!
Sad
I never commented because I know this could've been a possibility.
Her saying what she said on fb sends a clear message about what she was going through, in my opinion. Even though he said he was never abusive, her releasing what she did says otherwise
my deepest condolences to those who loved her...its like you wish she could see how many people loved her....and hopefully this makes us more aware of the signs of suicide and just love on our friends on family.
So she felt her husband was a narcissist but if he never hurt her then she was having an affair with a bad man who was abusive and wanted her to divorce her husband .. crazy 🤪
The time period of when her mental health struggles started could be telling
Most people who take their own lives rarely show signs or leave notes.
He (JP-The fake preacher) pulled the trigger a long time ago!
Prayers for the families
John and Mica's foundation of their relationship and marriage was built on the rejection, tears and abandonment of John's first wife and five children.
Did Mica think she can build a healthy future on THAT ??
You reap what you sow. I dont care how much you say you love Jesus. These are the principles that Jesus himself expect his followers to live on, if you dont, no matter how much you believe in grace --- the sowing and reaping principle will remain forever
There will come a time that John will have his turn and he will reap what HE has sown also
There’s a 911 call of her saying she was going to Jill herself …. Am I missing something?? I think she just decided in the spur of the moment to take her own life… very sad.
2:09 she was very clear... the denial is disrespectful.
When was the last time you heard of a woman who shot or hung herself? It happens - but rarely, w. women tending towards less-violent methods than men, w. drug-overdose as (overwhelmingly) the method-of-choice. I'm not saying it's impossible - just unlikely.
So unless this "clear & compelling evidence" is surveillance video recording the suicide, I'm unmoved by the conclusion - and that's after hearing the 911 call. I wonder where her husband was when she made the call? I wonder if it's even her? Who casually discuss a loved-one's suicide in the immediate aftermath - or sends sleazy text messages to a waitress, asking her to "send pics?" And replies with, "Nice!!!" A sociopath - or worse.
I'll say there was, "a lot of darkness in her life." She has her tires slashed, finds a GPS-tracker on her car, changes her number 3x, and files a restraining order against a bizarrely behaving husband? Even if Pastor Strangelove didn't turn from loving-husband to stalker & killer (and statistics suggest he did), then who did those things?
As I see it, there's 3 possibilities - the Man of God, an as-yet-unknown stalker, or Mica herself. In that order of likelihood.
sounds like stalking and harassing her, tires slashed? something wrong there, and shame on that church for allowing him to continue on. shameful
I'm sorry but I absolutely do not believe some random stranger slashed her tires or put a GPS monitor on her car.
Agreed. The husband and his gf should be throughly investigated. Phone calls can be faked and the gun could’ve been for protection
very sad,
Como hay Seres humano pueden creerle seguir un ser humano que se hace llamar Pastor increible
There’s a missing piece to this puzzle.
Medical Examiner: It's clear that JP gave me a little hush money to make it appear that Mica took her own life. Sheriff: You too?! High five!
Period!
He’s responsible in a major way…regardless of her manner of death.
Another abuser gets away with murder.
So sad 😢
I feel so bad what she was going through, she was scared of him .
Vengeance is mine Says the Lord‼️
I hope they are still investigating him.
Some people that can hide the worst sins are the pious people.
too many loose ends to call it suicide
Something still isn’t right about this .