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The Mongols didn't just know how to fight and intimidate their enemies. They also knew how to feed themselves and survive in some very tough environments. This video was great. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Hard to think any tougher environment than the Mongolian steppes in Eurasia. It can get scorching hot in the summer and freezing cold in the winter similiar to Siberia.
@@pinchevulpes yeah it's very salty and hard/dry. Turkic people also used those. You can approximate it if you salt cottage cheese, form it into small round compressed bits (a piece of cloth would be used to squeeze any water out) and then dried. They go great with beer :)
@@pinchevulpes I'm not sure it was the first nutrition bars, a lot of peoples have their recipes of travel food full of nutriments, such as pemmican ^^
I never really thought about this before, but their supply chains must have been pretty complicated. The Romans had the brilliant idea of laying paved roads, but I've never heard of Mongolian logistics before. Sure to be an interesting video!
@Вхламинго i’m sure you’re as aware of the logistics of the many native american tribes, as I am of the Mongolians’. Don’t shame people for seeking knowledge
@Вхламинго Thats not a fair assessment. I can guarantee that you didn't learn a lot of world history in minute detail from school. You have to go out and either studying certain periods of history or be a history buff like most of us here are to learn this stuff. I don't live in the US but I too wasn't aware of a lot of the details presented in this video. At the end of the day, you don't know what you don't know and you should never shame someone for a lack of knowledge
Exactly, they were their own supply train. This is what allowed the mongols to campaign thousands of kilometres away from their homeland years on end and is what made nomadic armies stand out among its contemporaries. Something like this has never since been replicated in any future militaries.
@Вхламинго No, peoples says "I was never taught this", because what K&G teach is often specialized military history, it's not a thing you can fit in any history programm ^^ Firstly, because history at school tries to be less about battles and dates, and more about societies and how we learn about history. Secondly, because hours are counted, and pedadoy is a matter of repetition, meaning programms often repeat the same thing several times to make sure it's known. Mongol's logistics is maybe taught in Mongolia, but globally, I don't see how it would be more than general culture to anyone in the world ^^ It's interesting, but it should be learned outside of school ^^
Yeah the steppe nomads influenced Russians at a surprising level it seems. Here's a thing that bugs me, the word for father, Отец seems acutely similar to Turkic word Ata for father. Coincedence?
@@subutaynoyan5372 I think it's a coincidence. All slavic languages have a similar word for father and for poles or croatians it can't be explained by steppe influence.
@@ДмитрийБукаев-ь6р Well, Avars and Huns were Turkic clans too. They were around the area around 1600 years ago even. There's no indo european language that I know of, that has such a word for ''Father''.
@@subutaynoyan5372 greek ἄττα, latin аttа, gothic atta, albanian аt, irish aite (not exactly father, but "custodian"), hittites аttаš. Your theory is nice, but this word is older then you think. It seems to be from children`s speech, same as "ma" for mother in very unconnected landuages. Something similar works for "pa" and "ba" roots, also often used for parent figures.
During Cengiz's Rule time, The "Turco-Mongol Empire" excisted out more than 60% Turkic tribes , just saying btw Cengiz was of Turkic origin according to Chinese sources who wrote the "Early Turkic History"
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@@WTFisDrifting A Mongolian here! And horse meat is awesome. The fat does not chill, is a lot tender than Mongolian beef *and* it's not gamey like mutton. Sure it has a weird smell but nothing some aromatics can't fix. Plus it's dirt cheap.
One of the main reasons why it was rare for Mongol warriors to be heavily armored was simple. Their smaller horses had a much harder time the heavier weight armored troops placed upon them.
Aaruul mixed with jerky, rolled into small balls. That was the secret. Oh also horse fat doesn't freeze. Very unique meat. You can eat it during winter while it's cold no need to warm it. But it has after taste. Other than that superb food
Yes because ammo, supplies and reinforcements getting to it's destination are all dependent on how good your logistics is. Could make the difference between victory and defeat in battles.
@@hmoobmeeka Because great soldiers won't do you much good if you can't supply them consistently. Now, what if you have crap soldiers then? Well, you seem to forget that humans can improve as time goes on, and a crap soldier won't be as bad if he keeps at it for some time. As such, logistics could be a big help by allowing soldiers to stay on the field and test their skills, as well as ensure they'll be fed and watered enough to stay satisfied and continue to fight and improve. As a plus, if you have good logistics you can always draw more bodies from your lands to throw at the enemy :P
It took another 600 years before invasions reached the same level of complexity demonstrated by Subutai's invasion of Europe. Ironically, Operation Barbarosa faltered and failed partially due to logistics
Genghis: we are going to go conquering! Lieutenant: but sir, will we invade to the north, the east, the south, or the west? Genghis: all directions at the same time should work
I belong to the Pashi tribe of Hazara, according to our oral tradition we are one of the few Hazara tribes which descended from Genghis Khan's Mongol warriors garrisoned in Afghanistan :))) 13:09
I have watched many hundreds of ancient history documentary episodes, but this may be the most informative and clearly presented of all of them. Many many thanks.
The Mongols are a warrior race I always get fascinated. Very hardy people and unique.... they way they fight and the way they managed to sustain for the long campaign. This video has been researched well and made even more fantastically.
Having been in the military this is very true and has always fascinated me . I read the it takes 3 times the number of support to supply the fighting force . Just the whole dynamics of figuring out the plan to supply the force for the objective , what the people went though and sustaining or not being able to for a sustained conflict ....... its amazing !
Wow! The Mongols were far more sophisticated (civilized?) than I knew! It was not just brute strength and violence, it was also exquisite organization on a vast scale!
Hey Crash Course History, we’ve finally found an instance where the Mongols WEREN’T the exception!!! Great stuff, K&G. Didn’t realize I wanted this video until I got giddy when I saw it posted. Keep ‘em coming.
Logistics might not be as sexy as battles, but it has always been of great interest to me. For every Allia, there was some guy with a cart of cabbages.
No bullets, no battles. Logistic troops are just as important as fighting troops, irrespective of how much they might be derided by combat troops as REMFs or POGs
Fantastic, wonderful! Thank you for doing a logistics video. Please think about doing an entire series concerning the field logistics, manufacturing technology and general available resources of historical armies throughout all periods. Some valuable knowledge is gained by seeing HOW something begins, rather than it's ending. Again, thank you for the great channel!
@@Cailus3542 All people have brains, it's a prerequisite for living. It's hilarious how you're arguing with a quote and think you're intelligent. There are plenty of intelligent people who have never studied any of those subjects. Oh, and topography is a subset within the field of geography.
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Normally you hear of nations conquering small regions or cities "the conquest of milan" or "the conquest of constantinople" but no the mongols have "the conquest of western eurasia"
You army laughed at Tatars for having to get close and missing half of their targets. They didn't laugh much when many lightly wounded soldiers died from poison or when they entered Paris.
@abis8 alpha8 300-500 is max range, and utterly useless number for military effective shooting. IRL, most archers fired at around 100m distance, regardless of bow type. As to the comparison, bow do a lot less damage than muskets, and muskets as early as the late 16th century often utterly destroyed horse archers when directly engaged, simply because of troop positioning, area of attack, and fire focus. Ottoman archers most often dismounted when engaging musketmen, because foot archers actually fared better, for the above mentioned reasons. Even the foot archers would lose of course, which is why the Jannisaries replaced their elite bows with muskets as soon as they could, but more effective than mounted archery regardless.
@abis8 alpha8 I am not speaking of max effective range of arrow shot lol, I am speaking of effective range of archery on the battlefield. Firing arrows at 500 yards is utterly useless, in fact, the very point horse archers made throughout history is to come as close as possible to the enemy and fire their bows, because long ranged volleys seemed ineffective. Hell, Saladins Turks actually even dismounted after closing in at Arsuf because they wanted a more effective shot. Max range is utterly useless for military data. Hell, max range of a musket is likely 1000+ yards, as that is how far the bullet can go with hurting you, yet they fired around 100 yards, for the same reason as above.
I would like you to mention the Mongolian-Uighur relationship as well. In the Mongol Empire, bureaucrats were chosen from the Uighurs. They are the steppe people with a well-established writing culture. When the Mongols met the Uighurs, they took advantage of this culture. Uighurs were involved in writing and archiving documents and reports, military mapping, writing orders, and managing the budget and taxes. They made important contributions to the foundation of the Mongol Empire. Later, as the Mongols settled in China and Iran, the indigenous people here began to enter the brocracy
9:00 for anyone that thinks this was exceptional, this speed was equaled by the japanese invasion of Korea in Imjin War; 30 km per day. Only, by footsoldiers and in often mountainous terrain.
Keep in mind that it is a scouting and foraging force that has to maintain contact with each other and the main party behind them. They also need to cover wide areas adjacent to where they travel to patrol for enemy scouts or people who might observe them and give a possition away.
Brilliant documentary... and yet we succumb to our sedentary way of thinking in assessing these nomadic cultures by judging them thru our capabilities and needs. Genghis' marched his armies (on campaigns) on half rations because 'a dog doesn't hunt well with a bellyful'. We always disregard the toughness of mongols (nomadic warriors in general) as impossible and rely on calculations and estimations of their deeds by historians and theorists who barely get out of their chairs and the highlight of their physical exercise is to get to the local shop. Yam couriers covered 280 km a day. In order to surprise their enemies mongol army covered 150 km a day for 9 days with soldiers sleeping and eating (and doing their nature calls) in the saddle. Mongol horsemen didn't entirely rely on commanders to gear them up for war apart from arrows.
Yes I love videos about wars battles strategy and tactics, but these things won't happen without the logistics, thank you K&G for that and I hope we have it as a series with different caltures and armies
Subutai Russian campaign is the best one for me. In cold Russian winter they passed easily frozen rivers and lakes on horseback, putting sheep oil over riders skin to protect from cold weather and sustaining only by mare milk and blood they attacked the unexpected Slavic villages when they are staying in houses warming by the fire. They must be thinking that Mongols are actually demons not humans to be attack in such conditions Lol:)
Its a golden rule to like a kings and generals video befor watching , why ? because mongols never killed envoy of their enemy , and its a kings and generals video which entertain you in a way in times of corona nothing else will .
Im aware that once the Great Khan died and his sons took over the Mongolian Empire fractured but im honestly still confused how they ultimately became what it is now. I hope there will be further clarification on that in the future.
Ilkhanate and Yuan Dynasty were overthrown by the natives, the Oirats couped Mongolia proper, the Chagatai Khanate fractured and eventually birthed the Timurids before that state too collapsed into squabbling tribes. The Golden Horde were crushed by the Russians.
Think what happened to Alexanders empire. Some of the Mongol dynasties still remained afterwards as the rulers of the lands they conquered. In Russia you had mongol dynasties that married into the Belozero and eventually the Mongol tax city of Moscow, due to Mongol support, became powerful enough on its own that it was able to overthrow the Mongols. In many ways its amazing, two of the world's most powerful cities (Moscow and Beijing) owe their existence basically to the Mongols
I had read somewhere that most of hulegu's troops were actually troops collected from sedentary dominions of mongol empire. In that case they would move as any other european army
Awesome video!!! This is a must-watch for all Mongol admirers and military history buffs. Very informative and educational. Kings and Generals has done well again. Thanks.
Maybe u can add another savage strategy using "Hashar" to move the whole Horde logistic, thus enabling them even to move entire fortress from one city to another. I mean real fortress, no joking. This tactic was so effective on their marching to attack, annex cities without harming their major forces, ie elite units. Everything was on the move constantly, and can be assembled when ever they needed without much problem. (Assembly armoury, catapults, heavy range units etc). The feat that was impossible without this "Hashar" unit. Maybe u guys can explain more in another episode. Try to read book, Rashid AdDin on the struggle of the Mongols with Timur Malik. There was lots of Mongol tactics discussed there.
No army ever fought several enemies over multiple theaters, thousands of miles apart on the globe at the same time, like the Mongols until Americans and British entered WWII
@@theawesomeman9821 I'd call it the blitzkrieg of the medieval times. I wonder if they could have conquered Europe if they send a huge invasion force. They did conquer China and burned almost all of Rus so they could have probably succeeded pretty good.
The video is excellent as usual.. I was just wandering why don’t you do something focusing on other steppe people, as Volga Bulgars, Cumans, Rouran, Magyars, or even the Alans
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Please do a video on the Kremlin thank you
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Me: *sighs* here I go clicking again.
Please do a video on the Boers
great documentary
I'd like to ask, when will the next video of early muslim conquests come out ?
The Mongols didn't just know how to fight and intimidate their enemies. They also knew how to feed themselves and survive in some very tough environments. This video was great. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Hard to think any tougher environment than the Mongolian steppes in Eurasia. It can get scorching hot in the summer and freezing cold in the winter similiar to Siberia.
@@pinchevulpes yeah it's very salty and hard/dry. Turkic people also used those. You can approximate it if you salt cottage cheese, form it into small round compressed bits (a piece of cloth would be used to squeeze any water out) and then dried. They go great with beer :)
@@pinchevulpes I'm not sure it was the first nutrition bars, a lot of peoples have their recipes of travel food full of nutriments, such as pemmican ^^
@@Potatoman1578----Yeah that sounds like a tough environment to live in. Thanks for replying.
@@pinchevulpes---What a nice fun fact. Thanks for replying.
In Mongol, we say,
if you kill an animal
use all parts except breath.
What does it imply?
@@SulejManization it just emphasizes the use of every part of its body
Хаха бүр яг шүү бид ч малын бүх юмыг ашигладаг ард түмэн л дээ.
@@SulejManization I think it’s the same as the saying waste not want not. Use everything waste nothing.
Thanks brothers, i got that part, yet why do they mention breath?? Is there any deeper meaning with that?
Ah.... Logistics... The Mongols sure did have a unique way of carrying out their logistics. Genghis Khan sure was a practical dude.
I agree
@@Cherry-sg4zg Hitler?
@@Cherry-sg4zg where did that come from and why?
Truly the guy must have a IQ of atleast 120
19 hours ago how
Nazi hackers?
I never really thought about this before, but their supply chains must have been pretty complicated. The Romans had the brilliant idea of laying paved roads, but I've never heard of Mongolian logistics before. Sure to be an interesting video!
@Вхламинго i’m sure you’re as aware of the logistics of the many native american tribes, as I am of the Mongolians’. Don’t shame people for seeking knowledge
@Вхламинго it's not lack of education, rather Eurocentric education. If anything happened to the east of Poland it did not happen.
@Вхламинго Thats not a fair assessment. I can guarantee that you didn't learn a lot of world history in minute detail from school. You have to go out and either studying certain periods of history or be a history buff like most of us here are to learn this stuff. I don't live in the US but I too wasn't aware of a lot of the details presented in this video.
At the end of the day, you don't know what you don't know and you should never shame someone for a lack of knowledge
Exactly, they were their own supply train. This is what allowed the mongols to campaign thousands of kilometres away from their homeland years on end and is what made nomadic armies stand out among its contemporaries. Something like this has never since been replicated in any future militaries.
@Вхламинго No, peoples says "I was never taught this", because what K&G teach is often specialized military history, it's not a thing you can fit in any history programm ^^
Firstly, because history at school tries to be less about battles and dates, and more about societies and how we learn about history. Secondly, because hours are counted, and pedadoy is a matter of repetition, meaning programms often repeat the same thing several times to make sure it's known.
Mongol's logistics is maybe taught in Mongolia, but globally, I don't see how it would be more than general culture to anyone in the world ^^
It's interesting, but it should be learned outside of school ^^
I only started watching but I know 2 things about their logistic:
1. Their horses eat grass
2. They created the burger
B O R G A R
@@Dimblenick Cat borgar?
Steak Tartar.
I thought burgers were a modern invention
@@Wi-Fi-El I thought they were German
Kublai Khan once stated:
"I have heard that one can conquer the empire on horseback, but one cannot govern it on horseback"
@Вхламинго google search says otherwise..seems like this is a quote from Kublai instead of genghis..
@@lyhthegreat "I have heard" implies that Kublai heard this quote from someone else. Probably from the Khitan scholar mentioned above.
@Bozkurt postuna bürünmüş yobaz AraB devesi seeing how short the huns lasted, the joke really is on them ngl
@Вхламинго hence the "i have heard" cause it was Genghis who told his grandson.
@@storm0fnova he told it to his son ogodei. kublai was around 10 when chingis khan died.
In Russia the term Yamshik (ямщик) was used as a synonim for postman even unthil the first half of the 19th centuy.
Interesting!
Yeah the steppe nomads influenced Russians at a surprising level it seems. Here's a thing that bugs me, the word for father, Отец seems acutely similar to Turkic word Ata for father. Coincedence?
@@subutaynoyan5372 I think it's a coincidence. All slavic languages have a similar word for father and for poles or croatians it can't be explained by steppe influence.
@@ДмитрийБукаев-ь6р Well, Avars and Huns were Turkic clans too. They were around the area around 1600 years ago even.
There's no indo european language that I know of, that has such a word for ''Father''.
@@subutaynoyan5372 greek ἄττα, latin аttа, gothic atta, albanian аt, irish aite (not exactly father, but "custodian"), hittites аttаš.
Your theory is nice, but this word is older then you think. It seems to be from children`s speech, same as "ma" for mother in very unconnected landuages. Something similar works for "pa" and "ba" roots, also often used for parent figures.
As a mongolian I aprove this video. This channel is accurate entertaining and legit source of knowledge.
Thanks for sacking Baghdad.
@@Yrkr785 mamluks did that i think. Armenians were depended on Mongol Il khanate for their state survival.
@@VoidOfDarkness9 so their culture of depending to others for their survival is a long time traditions, eh?
During Cengiz's Rule time, The "Turco-Mongol Empire" excisted out more than 60% Turkic tribes , just saying
btw Cengiz was of Turkic origin according to Chinese sources who wrote the "Early Turkic History"
@@Tengri_COD have you ever heard of secret history of mongolia? In that it's crystal clear that temujin was mongol person
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Wish the History Channel would take note on how to tell history from this channel
@@dharmdevil So true.
This channel really is amazing. If I had the money I'd be dropping a good chunk on them.
Random horse: dies
Mongols: Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!
But not in modern days.
The French eat horse meat
@@user-lc5nd6ed3h it’s the most Healthy meat for you. Leanest of them all. We all should be eating ot
@@WTFisDrifting A Mongolian here! And horse meat is awesome. The fat does not chill, is a lot tender than Mongolian beef *and* it's not gamey like mutton. Sure it has a weird smell but nothing some aromatics can't fix. Plus it's dirt cheap.
@@NyangisKhan How is life in Mingolia now? I heard its pretty poor and most people still live in Yurts? What is your experience?
One of the main reasons why it was rare for Mongol warriors to be heavily armored was simple.
Their smaller horses had a much harder time the heavier weight armored troops placed upon them.
It was not rare tho. They had lancer heavy cavalry around 4 units out of 10. The remaining are archers. So it's still almost close to half.
I mean the mongols had heavy Mongolian Calvary but they are only used when as the finishing blow
Those horses had to be tougher than any in the world though. They walked and ran for thousands of miles bearing hundreds of pounds.
Aaruul mixed with jerky, rolled into small balls. That was the secret. Oh also horse fat doesn't freeze. Very unique meat. You can eat it during winter while it's cold no need to warm it. But it has after taste. Other than that superb food
What is aarul?
"Amateurs talk about tactics, professionals study logistics" - Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC
Yes because ammo, supplies and reinforcements getting to it's destination are all dependent on how good your logistics is. Could make the difference between victory and defeat in battles.
@@moscuadelendaest yes General hospital
@@hmoobmeeka Because great soldiers won't do you much good if you can't supply them consistently.
Now, what if you have crap soldiers then? Well, you seem to forget that humans can improve as time goes on, and a crap soldier won't be as bad if he keeps at it for some time.
As such, logistics could be a big help by allowing soldiers to stay on the field and test their skills, as well as ensure they'll be fed and watered enough to stay satisfied and continue to fight and improve.
As a plus, if you have good logistics you can always draw more bodies from your lands to throw at the enemy :P
nerd
@@kwamedamuah1838 illiterate
It took another 600 years before invasions reached the same level of complexity demonstrated by Subutai's invasion of Europe. Ironically, Operation Barbarosa faltered and failed partially due to logistics
Genghis: we are going to go conquering!
Lieutenant: but sir, will we invade to the north, the east, the south, or the west?
Genghis: all directions at the same time should work
Yeah, we fought on 5 fronts at the same time.
@@user-lc5nd6ed3h you didn’t fight.
@@Hiroakiarai88 lol
lol i wonder if they had that moment
I belong to the Pashi tribe of Hazara, according to our oral tradition we are one of the few Hazara tribes which descended from Genghis Khan's Mongol warriors garrisoned in Afghanistan :))) 13:09
Many Central Asian tribes came to iran, Afghanistan, India before and after Genghis invasion. Many went to Europe too
i 'm from Mongolia, we name you as Hazara Mongols even now. Descendants of Hulegu Khan Hope we all unite one day,
@@khashgerelgandush7873 how will you unite 🤔
@@ShubhamMishrabro Reconquest CB
@@hkl1459 CB?
Last time I was this early Carthage was still salt free.
gg wp You won this comments round -.-
Hahaha very amusing indeed
Totaly true
What do you mean ?
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST !!!
May the Tengri bless you My Mighty Channel!
How did you comment so early?
Hi where are you bro? I'm from Mongolia. 🇲🇳🇲🇳
**throat singing intensifies**
@Shy Cracker yes man. Even in Mongolia!
@@richestmanintatooine7131 , Wait you think " Tengri " is Thor ??
I have watched many hundreds of ancient history documentary episodes, but this may be the most informative and clearly presented of all of them. Many many thanks.
The Mongols are a warrior race I always get fascinated. Very hardy people and unique.... they way they fight and the way they managed to sustain for the long campaign. This video has been researched well and made even more fantastically.
Probably the most Warrior Race that ever existed on the earth!
Having been in the military this is very true and has always fascinated me . I read the it takes 3 times the number of support to supply the fighting force . Just the whole dynamics of figuring out the plan to supply the force for the objective , what the people went though and sustaining or not being able to for a sustained conflict ....... its amazing !
Wow! The Mongols were far more sophisticated (civilized?) than I knew! It was not just brute strength and violence, it was also exquisite organization on a vast scale!
really liking the new animation K&G :) Im really happy how far this channel has come
Hey Crash Course History, we’ve finally found an instance where the Mongols WEREN’T the exception!!!
Great stuff, K&G. Didn’t realize I wanted this video until I got giddy when I saw it posted. Keep ‘em coming.
always learn new things. what great work! thank you
As a Mongolian I cand say this is Great researched content.
Logistics might not be as sexy as battles, but it has always been of great interest to me. For every Allia, there was some guy with a cart of cabbages.
Someone said, “Amateur military buffs talk about armors, weapons, and sometimes tactics. Professional military officers talk about logistics.”
an army marches on its stomach is something every competent general should always remember.
@@ZhangK71 true
And a hard working draught animal would have had more animals carrying its food.
No bullets, no battles. Logistic troops are just as important as fighting troops, irrespective of how much they might be derided by combat troops as REMFs or POGs
Fantastic, wonderful! Thank you for doing a logistics video.
Please think about doing an entire series concerning the field logistics, manufacturing technology and general available resources of historical armies throughout all periods. Some valuable knowledge is gained by seeing HOW something begins, rather than it's ending. Again, thank you for the great channel!
Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980
An Army Marches on its Stomach.
- Napoleon, or Fredrick the Great, Apocryphal
And people with brains study both, along with politics, cultural bias, topography, history, military psychology, geography, sociology, etc.
Very interesting quote
@@Cailus3542 All people have brains, it's a prerequisite for living. It's hilarious how you're arguing with a quote and think you're intelligent. There are plenty of intelligent people who have never studied any of those subjects. Oh, and topography is a subset within the field of geography.
@@NLTops Im no general but history, military psychology (or just psychology lol), and geography seems to play the role.
Why I love K&G more than other YT history channels is that they never fail to put ENGLISH CC (Not auto-generated) in every video.
( even for the ads part 🤣) . JK..
❤️ From MANIPUR ,northeast India
They put captions of many languages.
@@knowledgedesk1653 Well, I dont know other language except English and my own tongue .
So , not relevent to me.
Normally you hear of nations conquering small regions or cities "the conquest of milan" or "the conquest of constantinople" but no the mongols have "the conquest of western eurasia"
Omg I wished for this topic a few videos ago and you guys actually did it! Thank you so much KaG!!
Big fan for years, keep em coming.
Fascinating, Im enjoying every episode
Strategy wins battles, logistics wins the wars.
Tactics wins battles. Strategy wins campaigns. Logistics wins wars.
@Dr Evil silly me, i forgot a navy doenst need supplies, ammunitions, reserve personel or repairs.
@Dr Evil And just how awesome are marines if they aren't supplied with food and ammunition?
@Dr Evil Are you suggesting marines use other marines for food? Lol
They didn’t teach this in the academy...
Only if they did, you would not have lost to damn russian winter.
You army laughed at Tatars for having to get close and missing half of their targets. They didn't laugh much when many lightly wounded soldiers died from poison or when they entered Paris.
@abis8 alpha8 300-500 is max range, and utterly useless number for military effective shooting. IRL, most archers fired at around 100m distance, regardless of bow type. As to the comparison, bow do a lot less damage than muskets, and muskets as early as the late 16th century often utterly destroyed horse archers when directly engaged, simply because of troop positioning, area of attack, and fire focus. Ottoman archers most often dismounted when engaging musketmen, because foot archers actually fared better, for the above mentioned reasons. Even the foot archers would lose of course, which is why the Jannisaries replaced their elite bows with muskets as soon as they could, but more effective than mounted archery regardless.
@abis8 alpha8 I am not speaking of max effective range of arrow shot lol, I am speaking of effective range of archery on the battlefield. Firing arrows at 500 yards is utterly useless, in fact, the very point horse archers made throughout history is to come as close as possible to the enemy and fire their bows, because long ranged volleys seemed ineffective. Hell, Saladins Turks actually even dismounted after closing in at Arsuf because they wanted a more effective shot. Max range is utterly useless for military data. Hell, max range of a musket is likely 1000+ yards, as that is how far the bullet can go with hurting you, yet they fired around 100 yards, for the same reason as above.
Damn, really did Napoleon like that 😂😂
His Corp was both a tactical and logistical masterpiece thought
Love your videos from the Mongol Series!
Brilliant, only out for less than 24 hours 1.3k well deserved thumbs up!
Happy Lunar Year! Mongolia is celebrating right now.
Yes
Oh we doing this? Yeah we’re doing this *throat singing intensifies*
What a wonderful video. As a history buff, I truly love this content
These videos are awesome ,my favourite series from you so far . I really love the Mongol series you make
I would like you to mention the Mongolian-Uighur relationship as well. In the Mongol Empire, bureaucrats were chosen from the Uighurs. They are the steppe people with a well-established writing culture. When the Mongols met the Uighurs, they took advantage of this culture. Uighurs were involved in writing and archiving documents and reports, military mapping, writing orders, and managing the budget and taxes. They made important contributions to the foundation of the Mongol Empire. Later, as the Mongols settled in China and Iran, the indigenous people here began to enter the brocracy
Very glad to see more videos being upload in such a short time👍
I owe you so much your videos help me so much in studies
Great videos . Keep up the great work guys. Also delighted the podcasts are back. 👍
Probably the single most important question to ask to understand the entire concept of field armies before the industrial age.
Cool! Every video about turkic mongol nomads are brilliant!
9:00 for anyone that thinks this was exceptional, this speed was equaled by the japanese invasion of Korea in Imjin War; 30 km per day. Only, by footsoldiers and in often mountainous terrain.
9:10 you can actually do 27 km per day on foot, keep in mind they were carrying light equipment as well...not very fast after all
Keep in mind that it is a scouting and foraging force that has to maintain contact with each other and the main party behind them. They also need to cover wide areas adjacent to where they travel to patrol for enemy scouts or people who might observe them and give a possition away.
Enjoyed learning more about G.Khan’s army.
Mongolian empire, truly one of the greatsest
Thank you , K&G .
Incredible video and incredible Mongols. 😁👍
Another great script by Jack. Nice work!
Where is the obligatory "throat singing intensifies" comment ?
I just read it
Congratulations, you're the obligatory "throat singing intensifies" comment.
Doing a good job !!! Love to watch your channel
Great video as always
Brilliant documentary... and yet we succumb to our sedentary way of thinking in assessing these nomadic cultures by judging them thru our capabilities and needs. Genghis' marched his armies (on campaigns) on half rations because 'a dog doesn't hunt well with a bellyful'. We always disregard the toughness of mongols (nomadic warriors in general) as impossible and rely on calculations and estimations of their deeds by historians and theorists who barely get out of their chairs and the highlight of their physical exercise is to get to the local shop. Yam couriers covered 280 km a day. In order to surprise their enemies mongol army covered 150 km a day for 9 days with soldiers sleeping and eating (and doing their nature calls) in the saddle. Mongol horsemen didn't entirely rely on commanders to gear them up for war apart from arrows.
Thank you so much for making this video!
Yes I love videos about wars battles strategy and tactics, but these things won't happen without the logistics, thank you K&G for that and I hope we have it as a series with different caltures and armies
*"Army marches on its stomach"* Napoleon after his army suffered more from starvation than actual combat.
Subutai Russian campaign is the best one for me. In cold Russian winter they passed easily frozen rivers and lakes on horseback, putting sheep oil over riders skin to protect from cold weather and sustaining only by mare milk and blood they attacked the unexpected Slavic villages when they are staying in houses warming by the fire. They must be thinking that Mongols are actually demons not humans to be attack in such conditions Lol:)
Our winter is even colder than russia
Another fascinating and well informed video
Its a golden rule to like a kings and generals video befor watching , why ? because mongols never killed envoy of their enemy , and its a kings and generals video which entertain you in a way in times of corona nothing else will .
Unlike Vladimir Dracula, who did kill them in a fun way.
*laughs*
@@AlexFlodder why are u laughing
Walking food is a great advantage for an army that travels great distances.
I don't always carry food, but when I do, it carries me.
Gotta love the background music. Epic.
Thats why I studied Logistics and work in Logistics with the military because it is the one profession/job that will never disappear !
Excellent video
Mongols ‘ a gift 🎁 that keeps on giving’.
LOL got an ad for a supply chain management course. Brilliant
Great vid. and it actually shows that you guys are pretty professional in showing that history isn't just tactics and battles.
Logistics is the bane of all armies, such a great vedio kudos
Great work!
very informative video..thanks
Im aware that once the Great Khan died and his sons took over the Mongolian Empire fractured but im honestly still confused how they ultimately became what it is now. I hope there will be further clarification on that in the future.
Ilkhanate and Yuan Dynasty were overthrown by the natives, the Oirats couped Mongolia proper, the Chagatai Khanate fractured and eventually birthed the Timurids before that state too collapsed into squabbling tribes. The Golden Horde were crushed by the Russians.
It always happened most of time see nadir Shah and Ahmed Durrani even taimur empire
Think what happened to Alexanders empire. Some of the Mongol dynasties still remained afterwards as the rulers of the lands they conquered. In Russia you had mongol dynasties that married into the Belozero and eventually the Mongol tax city of Moscow, due to Mongol support, became powerful enough on its own that it was able to overthrow the Mongols.
In many ways its amazing, two of the world's most powerful cities (Moscow and Beijing) owe their existence basically to the Mongols
@@luxborealis the golden horse didn't got crushed by the russians, it was crushed by timur
I love these mini history lessons , keep them coming 😉🥃
Great work big fan
I wished so much information to be avaibable on the Bulgars who were also nomadic or semi nomadic people
I had read somewhere that most of hulegu's troops were actually troops collected from sedentary dominions of mongol empire. In that case they would move as any other european army
true he startes with 1 tumen troop after touring iran he got 5-6 tumen troops.
Yes at least 1k han chinese engineers. This campaign lured christians and they watched this in great enthusiasm like it was a crusader against saladin
Me reading title: Always interesting.
Me seeing thumbnail preview clip: I didn't know Mongols rode rhinos into battle.
Awesome video!!! This is a must-watch for all Mongol admirers and military history buffs. Very informative and educational. Kings and Generals has done well again. Thanks.
I love it when a video is up and the ad adds more context to the actual stuff. This is gold!
Very informative video thanks! 👏
Nobody:
Everyone: Genghis Khan is My grandfather
@@rj5848 *COMMMMMIIIIIIIEEEEEE*
Maybe Stalin's grandfather is Чингис хаан.
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@@onestar8796 Yes Comrade
Maybe u can add another savage strategy using "Hashar" to move the whole Horde logistic, thus enabling them even to move entire fortress from one city to another. I mean real fortress, no joking.
This tactic was so effective on their marching to attack, annex cities without harming their major forces, ie elite units. Everything was on the move constantly, and can be assembled when ever they needed without much problem. (Assembly armoury, catapults, heavy range units etc). The feat that was impossible without this "Hashar" unit.
Maybe u guys can explain more in another episode.
Try to read book, Rashid AdDin on the struggle of the Mongols with Timur Malik. There was lots of Mongol tactics discussed there.
Excellent, as usual. Thank you.
Thanks for this.
Yaay more mongol videos 😍🤩
No army ever fought several enemies over multiple theaters, thousands of miles apart on the globe at the same time, like the Mongols until Americans and British entered WWII
Amazing how they fought against Japanese, Europeans, Egyptians, Vietnamese and Indonesians at the same time while governing China and Persia.
@@cem4376 I know, the Mongols were ahead of their own time
@@theawesomeman9821 I'd call it the blitzkrieg of the medieval times. I wonder if they could have conquered Europe if they send a huge invasion force. They did conquer China and burned almost all of Rus so they could have probably succeeded pretty good.
@@cem4376 they stopped trying to expand into Europe cause the continent was poor in profitable resources
Good video 👍🏻
I see a Kings and Generals Mongol video, I click.
Every expeditionary force needs great logistics.
Another useful resource from the horses & other animals, was the animal dung fuel. The stepps area has limited fuel resources.
The Nirun Mongols included the following tribes: Adarkin, Artakan, Arulat, Baarin, Barlas, Borjigin, Bugunut, Budaat, Belgunut, Besut, Geniges, Jadaran, Joureid, Dzhurkin, Duglat, Durben, Kilingut (incl. Kilingut-Tarkhan) , Kingiyat, Kiyat, Kunjin, Mangut, Nir-khoyin, Noyokhon, Oronar, Saljiut, Sijiut, Sukan, Sukanut, Sunit, Tayzhiut, Ujiet, Urut, Khabturkhas, Khatagin, Khonkhotan, Chanshiut, Chonos, Yasar, etc. Darlekin group Mongols consisted of such tribes as Arulat[19], Bayat, Bugunut[20], Belgunut[20], Gorlos, Jalair, Ikires, Ildurkin, Kilingut[19] (including Kilingut-Tarkhan[19]), Kingit (Geniges)[ 19], kunjin[19], kunkliut, nokhos, olkhonut, suldus, uryankhai, uryaut (oronar)[19], ushin, haranut, khongirat, khonkhotan[19], eljigin, etc.
The empire of Genghis Khan included not only the indigenous Mongols, but also all the other Mongol-speaking tribes of the region: Bargut, Bekrin, Bulagachin, Dzhungurkin, Karakitai, Kereit, Kurlaut, Kem-Kemdzhiut, Kushtemi, Keremuchin, Merkit, Naiman, Oirat, Ongut, Sakait, Tangut, Tatars, Telengut, Tulas, Uymakut, Urasut, Khoyin-Irgen, Khoyin-Urianka, Khori-Tumat (Khori and Tumat), etc.
Great video
The video is excellent as usual..
I was just wandering why don’t you do something focusing on other steppe people, as Volga Bulgars, Cumans, Rouran, Magyars, or even the Alans
Because their history is boring
That would be awesome. That region has great history
Great stuff !!!!!
When can you guys do a doc on the battle of Blenheim and the campaigns of The Duke of Marlborough?
Just about shagan sar was beginning this great video was born