Subutai: Genghis Khan’s Demon Dog of War
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Can you make a video about Hernan Cortes
How does it say two weeks ago?
Can you make a channel for the history of some countries?
Can you do a video on Attila the Hun
Looooooved it lol anything about the Mongols is fascinating to me and Simon is the best narrator
"Invaded Russia in the winter and won". What an amazing quote. Truly an amazing warrior.
British way of mocking Germans 😂
@@manjunathnr4624 What does this have to with the video?
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial you probably dont know who else tried conquering Russia in winter and lost. Lost without even a fight...
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial pretty sure I do , and I'm a Brit
@@adamjones4606 You're an exception then.
Mongols: Attack Russia in *WINTER*
Mongols: *Are Successful*
Russians: Wait.... That's illegal
Who cares, Russia still won in the end.
@@anonuser4806 They didn't won, they survived Mongol's massacre.
@@komenkhongjiamsiri78 They won in the end, Dmitri Donskoy defeated Mamai.
@ AnonUser , I don’t know if you understand The Mongols had Russia for over 200 years
@@anonuser4806 not before being mongol puppets for hundreds of years.
Subotais ride around the Caspian sea in an age before maps is probably the greatest military feat of all time. In a day before mobile phones, post or telegrams, Genghis really said 'Yeah meet me later' and he went on a 12,000 mile tour of destruction before meeting back up with Genghis is insane to the modern man. The pure loyalty is next level too, he could have lived as a king in Russia if he wanted for the rest of his life but chose loyalty.
this uber-psychopath didnt want to be a king, he wanted war and destruction. NOTHING to do with loyalty. He wanted to set the world on fire and watch it burn, nothign else brought joy to his heart.
maps existed since ancient times, I don't know what you are talking about
Lmfao mass genocide was who mongols dealt with minor infractions, being a king but a traitor would’ve meant total annihilation
@@Chadius_Thundercockthe Mongols were not destructive over the lands they ruled. Quite the opposite.
@@Gongolongothey weren't (?) unless they felt a rebellion, bye 👋
"they placed him under the floorboards and threw their victory party over him, crushed by thousands of dancing Mongols" didn't have to flex that hard but okay....
@hahamacna cty they just had to have that ranch sauce, country music and inability to enjoy spicy food
@@thatpandathing9142 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
According to customs, you were not allowed to shed blood of a noble. Because crushing can pretty much avoid this better than a blade, that's why they did it.
Also left out, he wasn't the only one. Every single noble had that fate, so that party had floorboards reinforced with several dozen people that all died by being danced on.
Lmao 😂 It's not funny, but one has to admit that was a savvy way to murder
@@thatpandathing9142 the long nose tribe made you believe in this
Ironically Subotai crushing the Grand-Prince of Kiev to death was actually an honour. In Mongol culture it was a sin to shed royal blood so the royals and nobility would be killed in ways that prevented bloodshed-for example Genghis had his former blood-brother turned rival Jamukha executed by breaking his back as a fulfilment of his last wish and as a sign of honour. Similarly, by having the Grand-Prince crushed to death where the sky-father couldn't see his blood, Subotai was actually doing him honour and acknowledging his royal status-though I doubt he appreciated the gesture.
I'd say the Grand Prince was ...pressured... into accepting the honour
@Victor Kurske In all fairness neither were the Europeans by any margin. The Mongols were just more efficient at this point in history. Reality was they're all just people and people have different customs and different cruelties.
I’m dreaming of the day I can see this in film.
Jamukha last wish is likely a post fact fiction created to show Genghis in good light. the Mongols took the blood brother bit seriously, and even the great Khan didn't want the disrepute of killing his own brother.
incredible thanks
Genghis Khan had an eye for talent. It was probably his greatest strength. His general Jebe was no slouch, either. Like, three of the top ten generals of all time are just in this one army. Pretty crazy.
Its simple really. His system of pure Merit.
Even in todays armies and politics.
Merit is set aside.
Connections and relations is everything, one can hardly prove themselves to anything theese days, not let alone do anything that helps you gain rank.
Everything boils down to knowing, swaying and bribing the right people rather than being very competent at something.
@@Kameeho Nah, i belive that shitty behaviour is universal.
For me is more of having a reasonable guy that sees you have talent and let you be.
Gengis Khan was really good at handling people with massive egos and let them built their own. Of course that came to bite the mongols when they split...
@@Kameeho pure meritocracy is a beautiful thing
@@Kameeho Not just connections. There are actual laws and regulations on the books that require promotions to be based on sex and race.
That's why Napoleon was successful too, cause of the ' MERIT 'system.
As French historian, Jean Duché once wrote: "If the greatness of conquerors could be measured by the quantity of territory conquered, the Mongolians would be certainly the greatest of them all!"
@Le Naker Indeed!
@tre lol today if he was alive he would not have survived highschool
@Norse Woodman Wrong!, Mongols also established several security checkpoints to guarantee safe commerce throughout their empire.
@@farhadnoori4213 Wrong, you misunderstood me! In no way I expressed anything against them, on the contrary, I started my admiration for the Mongolians since they got the greatest land empire in History. Their military skills and political abilities enabled them to conquer and govern vast quantities of land and men.
Norse Woodman but ... but yes they can
Subutai was exceptional at captilising on his victories by completely annihilating his enemies. Battle of khalka and Mohi had enemy casualty rates of up to 90% which is insane for a medieval battle. In Legnica and Georgia, we don't even know how exactly the battle occurred because no one survived to tell the story. That's how scary he was
I'll agree with this except for: Subutai wasn't at Legnica. Legnica happend the day before Mohi. Subutai was at Mohi. The other half of the army know how to annihilate the enemy partially because the Mongols practiced it in their yearly 'nerge' hunts.
With each day Simon's grip on UA-cam strengthens
😂
The power of his will is unstoppable.
Better than susan
It is too late now. The shine of his head had grown too great.
He’s slowly becoming Vsauce
Napoleon and Hitler: conquering Russia in the wintertime is impossible.
Subutai: bet.
According to my great great great great great grandfather... he actually said..."Hold my goat milk"
Well, Russia was in a state of internal turmoil when he invaded, and he made sure to exploit that. The Germans did that in WWI and were on the cusp of winning when Lenin took control and bought them off, but Napoleon and Hitler faced a united Russia.
Does 24th June sound like winter to you ? That’s when Napoleon began his campaign, he lost far more men on the summer advance than the winter retreat
Gotta come from the east😂😂😂
"Conquering Russia in the winter? Sounds like it'll be impossible."
Subutai: "Actually, it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience."
As a Mongolian, I appreciate people learning about our history.
Don't you think of you guys need political influence on the internet but the general public license plate number one priority mail international signed and dated you know what I mean right???
The Mongolian people have a legendary culture
How did it fall btw? Or its basically China now? I dont recall any usurption of Genghis' heirs.
@@billybigballs9208 I have no clue what you mean. Is English your 19th language?
Your people are all saveges gangis khan butcherd all of Asia and Iran we hate your culture because it's full of saevgnes and blood .
"The Mongols were hiding to the North, The East and the West" ... i'd faint at this point.
and South too :D
they were not hiding tho ahahah
@@braconion ... You just can't see them.
I’ll get the bucket 🤣
Somebody bring me my brown pants!
Anyone interested in Mongol history: 'Dan Carlin's Hardcore History: Wrath of the Khans' is probably the best podcast series I've ever heard.
Thanks for the recommendation, it free to watch?
Unfortunately not anymore, but he has a lot of great free content though
Damn. I’ll see if i can find a free pirated version or something, but still thank you for this man!
I believe its audio only. Bus still fascinating. Highly recommended.
@@YOOT_JJ go on the piratebay and you can download all the episodes for free in 5-10 minutes. best thing ive ever pirated
Subutai and Jebe's campaigns are considered some of the most daring endeavours in military history...
Subatai is the greatest general to have ever lived he won 65 pitches battles never lost a single battle a military genius
@Jojo reference lost a battle & a war. though his genius was more apparent
Hannibal Barca easily the most daring.
I'd say Napoleon too.
Calling what they did a reconnaissance in force would be an understatement.
@Archnid 001 indeed, no one got to the Russians in the winter while we did... Enough said
The word Dog in Ancient Mongolian language has 2 different meanings One A Guardian (which is the actual role of a dog in Nomadic culture, guarding the sheeps and the family in the night) and Friend. Dogs are revered creatures in Nomadic culture as mentioned above. So the actual Title of Subutai would be "Dearest Friend of the Khan" contrasting to "Dog of Khan" .
Dogs are obedient and loyal. In every culture. No need for translation.
@@scottashe984You could say the same of horses having a rather universal meaning but it's a little deeper than "he was an obedient and loyal companion" when talking nomads and animals. If he was "the khans horse" he would probably be their pope lol
It's likely he wasn't particularly either of those things imo, as he was a very cunning and deceitful commander
loyal is right meaning. Never betray like dog.
Subutai (1175-1248) was a Mongol general and the primary military strategist of Genghis Khan and Ögedei Khan. He directed more than 20 campaigns and won 65 pitched battles, during which he conquered or overran more territory than any other commander in history as part of the expansion of the Mongol Empire, the largest contiguous empire in human history.[1] He often gained victory by means of imaginative and sophisticated strategies and routinely coordinated movements of armies that operated hundreds of kilometers apart from each other. Subutai is well known for the geographical diversity and success of his expeditions, which took him from central Asia to the Russian steppe and into Europe. He is widely regarded as one of the greatest military commanders and strategists in history.
How did he died
@@charminanderson6325 age/ilnness
FYI Subutai or Subeedei as hes called in Mongolian, wasn't the only "war dog" of Chingis Khan, there were 4 of them, Subeedei, Zev, Zelme and Muhulai. And the nickname "war dog" was not an insult, it was more of a compliment, meaning these 4 generals were known for their ferocity/cunning. In their primes, these 4 generals commanded more respect, fear and troops than Chingis Khan's own sons.
Chingis haani 4 n nohoi buyu zev,subeedei,zelem,hubilai shu
Chingis lol They mention there was four.
@@serodbat3140 muhulai shuu, khubilai chen ach ni shvvdee ter ued jaahan huuhed bsan
@@khashgerelgandush7873 khubilai gej baigaa.muhulai 4 hulug-n neg.
Subutai achieved the elevated status of War Wolf.
He is still one of the most respected person in Mongolia today. He represents bravery and royalty to all Mongols.
That good to know never heard of him before
Plus Subatai was a genius military planner!
@president camacho well you must be blind if you don't notice the difference between Alexander's and Mongol's approach to conquest.
isnt he turkic?
@@jd749 I bet you admire Alexander the apparently great
Chinggis khan was very wise to choose a loyal and right person. The fact that there are almost no person that betrayed from Chinggis khan is amazing 🖤
Subutai's pal, Zebe, was a skilled archer who wounded Temujin with an arrow in his throat in a battle. After winning the battle, Temujin personally met Zebe (whose name was Zurgaadai then) and convinced Zurgadai to join his army. Then Temujin "renamed" Zurgadai as Zebe, which translates into tip of an arrow.
Subutai never gets the credit that he should, glad that Simon did that.
Yes he does, had he never gotten credit this guy wouldn't have heard of him
self explanatory
Who is the judge of credit anyways
Credit for someone that slaughtered countless people?
@@chrismcteggart2100 well, that's probably not how he meant it. Credit for helping genghis khan in his conquest over hundreds of empires, i guess?
One of the greatest generals in history. Imagine if the mongols did continue into Europe if the fortunes of fate had been otherwise.
Mongols vs the Empire. That would've been a sight to see
There's a possibility that they wouldn't have been successful in western Europe though. There was a much larger density of castles in western Europe and the Mongols were absolutely terrible at besieging castles. In fact after the first Mongol invasion of Hungary in 1241 the Hungarians built a network of castles/fortifications on the northeastern border, because they worked (supposedly none of the Hungarian castles fell to the Mongols during the first invasion). The second Mongol invasion in 1285 was a complete disaster, mostly due to the network of castles the Hungarians built. Close to their entire invasion force was killed or captured. I would personally guess that the Mongols would've been repelled in western Germany and France due to the high density of castles there.
@ Vandal Creed , Yes he was one of the GREATEST GENERALS to ever live ! Sadly he’s forgotten a bit
It would be really cool to see an Alt History show of this. What the world would have looked like if they had been successful and pushed all the way to the Atlantic. 🤯
@ Mammel248 , 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ At the time Chinese and Mongols were sooooo much more advanced then Europe
Russians: nobody attacks us in winter
Mongols: *hold my raw horsemeat and watch*
We never ate anything raw but OK...
@@dorjjodvo1992 alot of the dangerous mongols and turks ate bloody or raw meat. İt was an act of cruelty and ignorance for weak and unimportant matters
@@dorjjodvo1992 Not entirely raw. The Mongols put raw meat under the saddle of their horses, and as they traveled the pressure from the saddle and heat from the horseback made the meat tender and edible.
He deserves a television series to describe his truly historic life. His tactics and strategy are worthy of being taught to people of all types for their educational value in my opinion.
Many times he was literally out number by everyone, but his strategies always saved him.
Armchair warrior tactics.
Mongol tactics were light years away compared to Kievan Rus and Europe. It's not really that surprising.
It was literally like trolling to them. Literally everyone was tactically and strategically inferior, even Napoleon was a slower version with an edge in raw firepower, he might not have done well in a campaign against this Mongol army from 500 years earlier.
@@eoinsweetman9263 whoa. The Mongols were a horde and usually vastly outnumbered their opponents. To think a horde could beat an army of comparable numbers but with much better tactics and weapons is delusional. I'm sure Ceaser or Alezxander the Great would easily destroy the Mongols.
That is where you are very wrong mate. The mongol army was far from being a simple nomadic horde that enjoyed war, they were a professional seasoned and ruthless army. In open field I doubt any pre gun powder could compare. Their use of mounted archers and their tactics had no match in the ancient world. I highly recommend you listen to Dan Carlin's wrath of the khans.
Simon, you forgot how the Rus and other enemies of the Horde killed emissaries and that was one sin that was unforgivable. That sin is why such harsh tactics were taken.
That was primarily the Kwaresh or whatever they were called. Gjenghis gave them the option to stay a kingdom and become his allies and trading partners. They decided he was a joke and killed off his emissaries and took all the valuables they were carrying. Wrong move, as not a single of their cities have ever been erected again, after their destruction and their ruins can still be visited in the middle east
That's the official reason, you should know Mongols themselves killed representatives too (regardless of what changhes Khan muttered about killing them).
You have to understand they are smart and brilliant, still genocidal psychopaths.
Its amazing how many rulers killed Mongol envoys despite most likely hearing of the terror and destruction that followed the previous envoy murders.
If you've seen the documentaries it was surprisingly common for any country they crossed in that period.. for just their emissaries.
Which means the terms were often outrageous and/or insulting for people who often knew little or nothing about Mongol force.
Not all their enemies killed their emissaries, that was a big no no in their traditions and a direct reason whole populations got put to the sword. I've studied this extensively and you's may watch about it almost any other UA-cam documentary on them.
*Russia being conquered in Winter
Napoleon & Hitler: *IMPOSSIBLE*
Actually Napoleon did take Moscow as the Russians were scared and Hitler with an army 3 times smaller were 2 warm weeks away from getting Moscow, really Russians not very good at war unless they have many more numbers on the field..
@@geesun2007 thats the definition of being good at war. What a silly thing to say. Russias use of the land is one of the strengths they have used for centuries
I mean successful battle but didnt really make it to russia let alone conquered.
@@geesun2007 aswell Napoleon pushed into moscow because they let him. They have done it many times in history. He failed like so many others.
And during the German invasion led by Hitler. Mongols sent 500,000 horses and lots of wool so Russian Army can make winter clothes and to have enough food to feed their soldiers. That time Hitler knew he made a grave mistake.
I’m a long time fan of Subetai. His record is unmatched and he showed genuine military genius.
00:35 That is an incomplete translation. The more complete one goes like
"They have foreheads of brass
Their tongues like blade of grass
Possessing heart of steel
and an iron spike for a mouth
That four mad dogs
Comes to slaugther thousands
Unleashed from their iron chains
They come drooling
To devour the enemy whole.
Refreshing only on dew
Subsisting on their saliva
Riding the winds
Having quiver as companion
Lead by Jeb and Hubilai
Followed by Zelme and Subetai
That four dogs
Come with determination." Said by Chingis's friend and rival Jamuha to khan of Naiman tribe to scare him during the battle of Nahu Gun, 1204.
@ Zero G , 🇲🇳🇲🇳🇲🇳
Kinda funny everyday people like you add in cool facts when the people making the video is making bank on an hour or two of research, of which an additional hour would've produced what you had mentioned. Gotta get that UA-cam $$$ I guess.
@@JohnDoe-vf2yo Yeah, so stuff like that mostly winds up getting cut due to time constraints. I mean, do you really think it takes an extra hour of research to scroll down and see the second half of a quote?
@thefeatheredsnake This was psychological warfare at its finest.
Thanks for correctly spelling Chinggis' name :)
When you invade Russia in the winter and WIN...
Because, you know, Chinggis KHAN.
Well to fair they did invade from behind where as Napoleon and co attacked from the front.
What winter :)
It’s such a crazy thought. But hey Mongolia is pretty bloody cold right? Hahahaha.
@@emilypatricia6324 Yes! And keep in mind, back at this time, Mongolia also included much of Siberia and Kamchatka. So if anything, it was the Mongols who were better prepared for cold weather fighting. They weren't some fair weathered Europeans: they actually lived and worked outside during the Siberian winters.
Lmfao who else been searching up mongols and samurai history after playing ghost of Tsushima
Listen to Wrath of the Khans by Dan Carlin. You might have to buy it but its the best podcast about the Mongolians under Ghengis Khan
Not exactly looking them up but UA-cam's algorithm has been clutch.
@@joshuapannell8131 I second that recommendation, Dan Carlin is the man! I've listened to many hours of his epic podcast. From the Romans to the Mongols to the World Wars, hes the best thing for a history nut that doesn't have time to read 100s of books. I agree the Mongols episodes were awesome.. I actually clicked on this video because of his mention of Temujin and Subutai and I wanted to learn more.. Ive also been playing Ghost of Tsushima and I think thats why this video was recommended to me in the first place. That game is incredible. If your into history and video games, then give Kingdom Come: Deliverance a try. Its probably really cheap right now and its about the Cumans invasion of medieval Europe. The Cumans are essentially Mongols, but this comment is long enough already! Point is, history is awesome.. To predict the future, just look to the past! Happy gaming and learning my friends!
Guilty
Joey III
Probably just you and a handful of millennials 😃 The rest of us knew about mongols before w video game shed light on them. Lol
One of the greatest military leaders of all time. And he deserves to be FAR better known than he is.
Hope not, he was as cruel as any nazi general, it’s good to remember it for military purpose but those mongols generals were responsible for killing almost 10% of the humans population, they deserve no respect at all
He is not mostly forgotten, he is regarded as one of the greatest generals of all time...
only army personell who study tactics and strategies learn about hiim now. In history class etc lots of BIAS information...
Well, maybe for how important he truly was he doesn’t get the same level of popular recognition that Genghis or Kublai get
@@aslof1069 not surprised. foreign countries have a big bias against us mongolians when it comes to history. but in mongolia the name "Subutai" is still very well known. even i, who used to sleep thru classes i didnt care about such as history, somehow know his name and his exploits
And one of the most evil man, cameras were just not there yet for them to receive the same treatment as nazis
@@user-xg6sx5ev9u famous generals are not angels
I could listen to this guy read a phone book lol.
I think you mean Audio Book
This was a stolen comment.
@@phillipdavidson5621 do you not know what a phone book is?
Gay.
@@boogityhoo7452 🤣🤣
This man is probably the most underrated general of History
Thank you for giving Sabutai his just due. He gets forgotten, especially in western history books.
You left out the most important part: he met Conan while being left as dinner for wolves outside a witches hut
Hahaha, not a lot of people got that joke
What is best in life?!
Yes and it was Subati that rescued Conan from the “Tree of Woe”.
Ah yes the missing 6 months of his life after pursuing the Iranian prince.
Subutai’s check list:
1) see his enemies scattered before him
2) hear the lamentations of the women
DMX: Where my dogs at.
Subutai: Right here.
Yes! Subutai! A true artist in the battlefield!
Ghengis khan was so smart in the alliances and the way he ruled and battled, it's honestly unbelievable
To add a little detail to the battle between the Rus: During the Rus Army's pursuit of Subutai the Rus cavalry kept getting further and further ahead of the main army. Once they were too far away for the main army to support them is the moment he chose to turn.
Yes !!! Thanks for making one on the GREATEST GENERAL to ever live, Mongolia 🇲🇳🇲🇳🇲🇳
I think he's the greatest Asian general along with Khalid Ibn Al Walid and Cyrus the Great.
@@DC-zi6se Hz. Ali was the best general
Yes. The biggest killer of women and children in History. He should not be admired.
@ Vladimir Kraus , LoL you actually believe that non sense and yes it is partially true but you have to see he was AMAZING he was great and honorable. He only killed those that refused to surrender and fought and only killed women and children when he had, you have to do such thing if you wanna do great things
@@vladimirkraus1438 doesn't mean he wasnt a good general lol
One of the finest videos on Subutai on UA-cam! Great work Simon 👏
Hi I would like to let you know that "Dogs" in Mongolian is "Nohod" and "Companions" is "Nuhud". These two words sound almost exactly the same to foreigners in which many people now calling those famous Mongol warlords as dogs. Many historians confused the words or misused them intentionally out of hate. Therefore, I would like you to look at it again.
Aw, bless you dude. I didn't know that I expect it's a mistake that one person made and others just assumed was correct but it's a pretty daft mistake all the same. Trying to personify Subatai and his army as war dogs I think does them a massive injustice.
Could be a pun
According to the Mongols' own historical records Subutai was the one who demanded Batu return because all princes had to obey the Yaksa and Batu had to cast his vote but Batu tried to stay because he and his brothers from the Jochid line were being sidelined and alienated by the rest of the imperial family. Batu's fears proved true because the first thing Guyuk did on his ascension was to strip Batu of Subutai and his Chinese military engineers. This was the real reason the Mongol conquest of Europe halted. They had simply lost the ability to take down cities with their engineers withdrawn. The Hungarians were the first to realize this and the two next kings of Hungary quickly built castles all over their domain and fortified all their cities, completely halting the Mongol advance. If the experienced city destroyers and their engineers had stayed, this strategy would have been utterly useless. Across the world in China Subutai's engineers were busy bringing down far larger and more heavily fortified cities and fortresses that dwarfed any Hungarian castle.
@ Andrew Suryali , 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ As a Mongolian I don’t like Guyuk for that, and Then later Monghke didn’t exactly go for Europe
@B Whit Mongol's horses were female. They ate grass, and the Mongols drank their milk mixed with some blood, along with anything else they could find. And China was so powerful militarily compared to Europe that for the Mongols, it was like beating the final boss and going back to the first campaign.
@B Whit hahaah, dont change the topic girl. By the way, i am not from Mongolia. In addition, i dont live in peasant. As i can see, you want to be my fields peasant. Interestingly , but i dont want you baby. Unfortunately, i already have enough workers like you. As for Eurasian steps, you are totally wrong. Kazakhstan, Mongolia and even Hungary have step.
@B Whit the mongols could have easily conquered europe, if they had really put the effort.
Interesting with my little knowledge of the time .I find your comments interesting.
Greatest military commander in history. Finally someone gives him the credit he deserves..
If he only defended his country then yes, he would deserve credit. But he attacked and killed millions for nothing. A kind of Hitler he was.
@@vladimirkraus1438 so what? He still defeated large armies with brilliant tactics
@Saifuzzaman Dipto he almost always was outnumbered. So Persia, kievan rus and Hungary were weak?
He has won far more battles than Alexander and conquered far more land .
He is untouchable
@Saifuzzaman Dipto achaemenids were on a brink of ruin also Darius iii was shockingly awful especially is the battle of gaugamela.
Subutai tactics are probably the closest thing to a modern espionage warfare which is often planned for many many years prior and involves destabilize the intended regions alienating them diplomatically using natural resources such as rivers and forests and of course psychological warfare
@Saifuzzaman Dipto
_ 20 military campaigns(often across multiple nations)
_ 32 nations defeated
_ 65 pitched battles ( often against forces double or more his forces size)
_ conquered more territory than any military leader in HISTORY
It is fair to say that although genghis khan would have had a truly successful career alone , without subutai the mongol empire would not have reached the scale it did
Videos are class mate. Some of the best content I’ve found for a while.
The concept of “Europe” is based on 8th century Greek mythology. It is an idea with no tangible substance.
“Europe” & “Asia” were separated ideologically, largely based on who they were at war with.
The continent is Eurasia.
Fidus Achates Not really. The idea of civilized Europe, barbaric non-Europeans was an idea that had existed since Ancient Greece, though that was just classic tribalistic mentality where only Greeks are civilized. The Romans had similar ideas, but they expanded that idea by bringing Latin culture to all parts of their empire. Of this, they found great success in Gaul, Britannia, Hispania, or to put it simply, in their European territories (save for the Greeks entrenched in the traditional Greek spheres of influence). The Latinization process by the Romans has made Gaul and Hispania less of a barbarian province and more of a new Rome overseas. They are more attached to mother Rome more than the Syrians, Egyptians, North Africans, and other provincials in the other parts of the Roman Empire. As a result, they saw themselves more as a separate entity even amidst of Rome’s Mediterranean empire. In short, culturally, you got the Latins in Italy and the Latinized provinces who followed after Rome, the Greeks, and the traditional cultures of the provincials that has been not fully embraced either the Greeks or the Latins.
The division of the empire into two, a process that already began in the 4th century AD but formalized by Constantine’s decision to move the empire’s capital eastward, solidified this divide even further. The lost of provinces in Egypt, Syria, and Africa to the Muslims discounted the provincials there from ever fully embracing the Greek or Latin way. But in areas where Greeks and Latins had been established, the people there still didn’t lose their culture and faith even after a change in management. When the Germanic barbarian tribes invaded the western Roman Empire, they carve up new kingdoms in Gaul, Hispania, Britannia, and Italia. However, Latin culture wasn’t lost, but rather persevere and got mixed into the local Germanic culture. These are the Romantic cultures like Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, and French. Given their similarities, the idea of European distinction with the other people outside of their traditional domain lingers on. When Spin was lost to the Moors, the people there sill didn’t lose their Visigothic culture in favor of adopting the Moorish way of life, but they persevere instead.
Christian Europe only saw the expansion of this idea of European distinction to cover new lands until it reached what we today consider as Europe. Both the Holy Roman Empire (under Charlemagne) and the Eastern Roman Empire (under the Orthodox emperors) are active in promoting their culture and religion to neighboring pagan tribes (either diplomatically or by force). As a result, this idea of Europe, by then already restricted away from the south and east of the former Roman Empire by the Muslims, began to be received in central Europe and even in Eastern Europe (in what was the former Soviet Union). The Bulgars and Serbs were converted and later called Constantinople their overlord, thus bringing them to the fold of Europe. The Holy Roman Empire, under the blessing of the Pope in Rome, brought in the former Germanic frontier to adopt Christianity and incorporated them as new lands for the HRE. Further conquests and diplomacy against the people of the Baltic region later brought in Poland and the Baltic states.
When Christianity was first adopted by the Romans, it led to the blending of Christianity with Roman and Greek culture. Ideas, traditions, and thought processes that was exclusively Roman or Greek at the time has now already been baptized and fully supported by the Church. The Church did removed many Latin and Greek forms of paganism, but for the large part it preserved and even incorporated Roman and Greek ideas as Christian ones, including the idea of European exclusivity. Now, you got missionaries to even further lands that helped spread this idea of European exclusivity even to Scandinavia and Ireland, only rebranded as Christian fellowship amongst nations. The fact that Christian missionaries at this time failed at penetrating even further than the boundaries of Europe means that this concept would remain a very Euro-centric idea until the Age of Exploration. Even during the Age of Exploration, such missionary efforts were heavily tied to European imperialism and exploration due to old habits, which would continue well into the 18th-20th century, where Europeans finally were able to have more freedom in sending missionaries to the Muslim world, even to areas that used to be a part of the Roman Empire.
Pretty sure it's based on the ancient divide between Greek-Roman civilization in the west and Persians, Parthians and others in the East. Europe is a peninsula. A very large one, but to pretend it isn't there is rather silly. South America is connected to North America. That does not mean it doesn't exist either.
@Fishslap 33 North America & South America are on two separate tectonic plates. This is what makes them two separate continents.
A continent is defined by its plate tectonics, studied through scientific fields known as geology & geography.
The reason India is known as a subcontinent is because it occupies a separate continental shelf, which merged with Eurasia approx 35 million years ago.
Christianity came from the “middle east”, predating Islam. There are ancient Christian communities still present in the “middle east” today. This fact might give you food for thought concerning the spread of people & their ideas throughout history. Migrations of people are well documented in historical records & archeological discoveries.
The division between Europe and Asia as two different continents is a historical social construct, with no clear physical separation between them.
There is no “European” race or place. “Europe” doesn’t exist as a defined landmass or a political entity. It exists solely in the realm of belief.
There is no general consensus on where “Europe” ends, or where “Asia” begins. Its borders are geologically arbitrary. Your back garden has a boundary, a perimeter, & thus is more legitimate than “Europe”.
Some think Russia is in “Europe”, some do not. Some think Turkey is in “Europe”, others do not. If Turkey is in “Europe”, why not Syria? Or Iraq? Or Iran?... If Russia, then why not Mongolia? The “European” model does not hold water. The continent is *Eurasia*
Google: How many continents are there in geology? (General scientific consensus says six)
Have you ever done a DNA test? If you consider yourself European, then you might be surprised to find some “Asian” ancestry in your bloodline.
I’m not saying you can’t identify as a “European”. We have whole communities identifying as all sorts of things. Be a Jedi, if you want.
But I think there is a need to have some consensus on the physical nature of things.
@@You-Got-Served Continents were defined long before anyone knew that there were tectonic plates. Also, by that definition, North America is two continents because it sits on two separate tectonic plates, So is Africa. And of course India isn't a part of Eurasia now, if we go by your definition. So it is a terrible definition. Continents were defined by geography, not tectonics.
Geographically Europe is a subcontinent. It was for a very long time also completely isolated from anything to the east, only connecting to it at all through the Middle East and much later through Russia. That's why it was considered a separate continent, because it might as well have been. So it also has cultural, religious, philosophical and political aspects. Western, European culture was completely different from Asian culture.
There is absolutely zero need to redefine things to conform to some weird notion of scientific truth in labeling. Particularly one that makes North America and Africa two continents when they obviously are not.
Greatest militairy genius ever.
He dwarfs all kings,emperors and generals.
I would rate Hannibal Barca slightly above him as a military strategist
@@PauloAlexoliveira
Good choice👍
However not mine.
I have Khaleed in high regard however Alexander doesn't even get close to him.
Khaleed and Subutai died of old age and are known for winning most battles as a general.
Where Khaleed fought mostely in the Middle East.
Subutai invaded kingdoms in Asia,Middle East,Caucasus,Russia and Eastern Europe conquering the largest amount teritory as a general (difference of enviroment and climate)
In the militairy he's recognized for it as well.
Advice:starting a dialogue with lmoa isn't the way.
@Saifuzzaman Dipto
Subutai (Classical Mongolian: Sübügätäi or Sübü'ätäi; Tuvan: Сүбэдэй, [sybɛˈdɛj]; Modern Mongolian: Сүбээдэй, Sübeedei. [sʊbeːˈdɛ]; Chinese: 速不台; 1175-1248) was a Mongolian general and the primary military strategist of Genghis Khan and Ögedei Khan. He directed more than 20 campaigns and won 65 pitched battles, during which he conquered or overran more territory than any other commander in history as part of the expansion of the Mongol Empire.[1] He often gained victory by means of imaginative and sophisticated strategies and routinely coordinated movements of armies that operated hundreds of kilometers apart from each other. Subutai is well known for the geographical diversity and success of his expeditions, which took him from central Asia to the Russian steppe and into Europe.
@Saifuzzaman Dipto
Your opinion is clearly based on litteraly knowing nothing about Subutai.
Simon's output, given the quality of the writing, is simply incredible. I will look back on lockdown and basically remember him and his team keeping me sane and getting me through it.
17:50 love the Zoom in. Just to emphasise the point that something was done which is considered impossible even today. (Thank you BIO this is the one I was waiting for)
Thank you for all you do man. Love this channel
Oh Man the mongol war machine him self. I swear subotai was a force of nature when it came to battlefield stragedy.
And a logistical genius. He knew when he had enough, how long it'd take for supplies to come and when they were in danger for a campaign.
@@michaellejeune7715 one would think he was a time traveller ore something he was just so ahead of everything.
Jihadi Sultans 2 they weren’t human ? What?
TheMetalHeadbangger tactics, not strategy.
Jihadi Sultans 2 the Turkic tribes were also the enemies of the Mongols
Guy wiped out probably millions just for the sake of war and conquest and we view him today with such admiration and awe, same as Napoleon, Alexander the Great, etc... Do you think in another hundred years Hitler might be studied as a dashing, awe-inspiring conqueror who nearly brought the world to it's knees ?
Of course, it's not that controversial, as time goes on, we put greatness over ethics, because all victims, who can influence our perception, pass away due old age.
Eh, Hitler had too many personal flaws that his conquests can't cover up, plus he wasn't much of a military genius either. And as his world went down in flames, he bitched and whined about how everyone else was at fault for his rotten luck.
Hitler is remembered as evil because of the Holocaust. If Hitler kept his war crimes to the battlefield, I would say maybe. As it stands, no, he will he seen as history’s super villain
@sa Uh, no. He was a lazy, pompous man whose method of fixing the German economy was by shoring it up for a war that it could never win. He and his buddies made numerous mistakes that worsened the situation, which he would always blame someone else for. When it became clear the war was lost, he and his inner circle decided to just live in luxury while ordering the soldiers and civilians to die for them so they could delay their appointment with the hangman's noose for as long as possible. Operation Barbarossa was littered with logistics problems, but he and his generals ignored them out of racism.
Imagine trying to use modern emotions on past. Like it is almost 1000 years now and we have grown as humans. Don't get me wrong he was a cruel man but so was everyone in those time
All hail great khaan
Love your videos Mr. Whistler. Well done in all areas. And very informative.
Thank you so much for doing this biography. The mongols were incredibly powerful and my absolute favourite subject when it comes too history because of all the mystery. I've been waiting for a video about him and Jebe's conquest of Eastern Europe and middle east. Thanks alot!
Subutai always interested me ever since age of empires 2, I swear that game made me love history!
Same here chief
Russia: no one invades russia during winter and won
Mongolia: laughs
Kaiser Willhelm: Laughs in Brest Listovsk
Casper, They did not invade Russia, they invaded Russian princes. They were routed when the first time the Russians came together by Dimitriy Donskoy and after they ended up much worse by the hand of Ivan the terrible.
@deliverence You are stupid because did not understand what I wrote. Again....
The mongols controlled the Russian princes and as long as they payed tribut to them left them alone.
If they did not then the mongols interfered. Ordidary Russian peasants were conducting their ordinary life without mongol control.
Brutally written and smoothly read, as always, bravo!
Can u guys do Cesare Borgia please, he is a very charismatic person who lived in interesting times.
And he was also a freemason
Isnt that the guy who DAD was a pope
The guy that Ezio threw off a wall?
I second this. He's an utterly fascinating guy and a great case for so many historical "What if..."s
He was also Jesus
Simon you're an underrated youtube workhouse. You make our days less horrible in such dark times. thank you :)
Subotai was about 55 years when he road 5000 miles to raid into Europe .
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I love your channel! One of my favourites. I always look forward to your videos the most and always learning something new everyday! ❤
Glad you finally got to feature this important historical figure, I've read quite a bit about him over the years and even named my dog after him.
11:30 Mongols have the rule of not spill blood of the royalty, so they found alternative ways to killing them
Didnt they slice one of their heads off though
@ Dante monterey , Well not exactly
Were is subotai 😂
And then there were the vikings who did the exact opposite as the blood eagle was reserved only for noblemen and royalty. Everyone else had to make due with getting their heads cut off.
Seems like if you slowly crush a dude some of the blood will leak out but I suppose it's the effort that counts.
It's the videos like these that have me addicted to this channel. I've always known that Genghis Khan built the largest empire in history, but I find it amazing to see this video covering the man who made that possible. These are the things that the average history textbook doesn't tell you.
The Mongol army under Subutai was well led but more importantly it was well organised with good communications, almost like modern armies. Historical records showed Genghis Khan had his army organised into ten-man units, hundred-man units, thousand-man units and ten-thousand-man units. Each was commanded by an experienced officer chosen for ability and not nobility. This suited the Mongols well because their way of battle had always favored outmaneuvering their foes and tight organisation was necessary to achieve that.
Well said. And it's precisely because of that structure that the Mongol army were often never flanked nor cut off from support. They all travelled as units, teams and that self sustainability allowed for the Mongol army not to rely on supply lines from a home base as you'd see with MANY other former Dynasty's. I am so glad that the history of these events has been preserved and recovered though it does make me wonder... what more we don't know of the Mongol Empire's history.
Was hoping this would be an episode when he was recommended on a video awhile back. I'd never known about him. This is great.
The fact we can keep people’s names alive throughout time for so long and learn from the mistakes of people almost alien to us now is amazing! Incredible stuff 😁👍
Yeah...we've been able to do that long before the internet came along..😐
If it wasn’t for Ogotai Khans death, ( 2nd Khan after death of Ghingis Khan)Europe would of been Devastated, Subutai massacred Tuton Crusaders( most famous european force). And there was no challenge in Europe
True Europe was nothing!
Türk from western Balkan!
Mongolia included / Yuan dinasty / China, / Golden horde / Russia, / Moghul empire/ India, / Ilkhanate / Persia and Iran
And Chagatai khanate/central asia.
"Did the impossible... He invaded Russia... in winter... and won" wow.
There was no Russia yet
@Devilman_ nope it didn't. Comparing modern day Russia to Kievan Rus is a fool's errand to run.
it is Rus Principalities :)
actually, winter was easier for the mongol horse than the spring marshiness. (rivers were frozen and hence passable).
Subotai is snowman so it’s easy for him in winter won Russia
Everyone reading this, I highly, HIGHLY reccomend listening to the 5 part series by Dan Carlin. It is called Wrath Of The Khans.
thanks for the recommendation. Ill definitely listen while riding my motorcycle today
Short, on target, enough to give you that good base of knowledge and to open that appetite for more.
Excellent video. I love all this history stuff that public schools never go into any kind of detail about.
The greatest general of all time .
Khalid would have defeated them both
Saifuzzaman Dipto Alexander is not a general
Saifuzzaman Dipto “he conquered or overran more territory than any other commander in history as part of the expansion of the Mongol Empire.”
Saifuzzaman Dipto ok ..but Alexander has generals too !
Saifuzzaman Dipto 🤝
Marco pollo was a great show that shouldn’t have been cancelled :/
Polo spoke of kublai khan and of bayan of the hundred eyes, but it is by no means clear whether he actually met them or whether he just embellished stories he had heard of. There is no historical evidence to place marco polo at the great khans court or as coleridge called it Zanadu ( where alf the sacred river ran through caverns unknown to man down to a sunless sea).
Odoreater ahh yes but through the eyes of a dog would be better! Perhaps you could host
@@kevi152 Main reason is that Mongols Hate Khubilai because he actually developer China and created the capital city in Beijing. Build 20,000 schools etc. But left Mongolia as to be a nation of warriors. For that Mongols hate him and consider him as Chinese.
Netflix lost many millions on that show. That's why it was canceled.
I absolutely loved those series and even re-watched them... such absolute quality master piece, I have no idea how they could loose money on it.
Your best video yet. Loved the narration
Keep up the good work man 👊💪
"I will show the boy why Tsubotai Baidur was general to Genghis Khan" possibly the best line historical fiction.
What book is that from
@@UnknownSend3r Conn Iggulden's Conqueror series, I believe its book three. This first book is called Wolf of the Plains.
@@eoinsweetman9263 An excellent series of books.
Great. Well presented (perfect skeaking pace). Clear content well organised.
Great video! So much interesting info I had to rewatch immediately after my first viewing! Well done
Me to
*Genghis Khan is a busy man*
*He had lot of kids*
Yep, got his genes.
They didn't have youtube to occupy their evenings back then...
@Skunk Ape Wait, I thought it was 2% of people have his genes, closer to 10% that had Mongol genes, and the 1/3 thing was only applicable to the Eurasian Steppe. Impressive nonetheless.
Idk why this made me think of the Monty Python "Genghis sitcom" sketch...
Skunk Ape well I did the math and actually everybody on earth is descended from genghis due to him having at least a 1000 kids.
Great content - might have mentioned the encounter with the Venetian merchants where they traded maps to the mongols for leaving them alone and in-turn attacking their competition. Also the first Mongol expedition to Europe is to this day the longest cavalry reconnaissance mission ever undertook.
Love history like this. I could listen to the history of Subutai every day....
keep up the amazing work love this channel
That was, perhaps, the greatest story I’ve ever heard on UA-cam. Thank you for an incredibly educational and informative video. I was aware of Genghis Khan and the great Mongolian land empire, but not his War Dog. What a horrible and amazing man.
Not to justify his actions, but the demon war dog would only massacre everyone in a city he conquered if they murdered the emissaries he sent first to demand their surrender, vassalage or alliance. I'm not sure why murdering of diplomats was so frequent back then, a simple "NO" would have suffice?
How about your roman empire then , why do you always point on others.
Subutai: You've fallen for one of the two classic blunders! The first being never get involved in a land war in Asia but only slightly lesser known: never go in against a mongolian when DEATH is on the line!
Rene ....I see what you did there👍
My favorite video, so far. Great job!
Thank you! I’ve read books on the Mongols and they barely ever go in depth on his Generals. Fascinating
Conan: "who are you?"
Subutai: "I am Subutai, thief and archer!"
Conan: "what are you doing here!"
Subutai: "dinner for wolves!"
Conan and subutai: "hahahaha!"
Napoleon and Hitler: lose a war in Rusia on winter........
SUBUTAI: Old My Horse......
It wasn't even "Russia" back then.
It was quite easy to conquer bunch of often unorganized princes armies rather than fully unified Russia under strong centralized authoritarian despot/autocrat.
@fireson23 Its much much much harder to invade from the east. *Siberia* cough
@fireson23 they lost,and thats it
@fireson23 excuses
Another great video, as always educational and very interesting. Thanks.
I love your channel and I’m going to watch every single video. Keep up the good work. Your work is inspiring ❤
This guy is the definition of hustle, grind, and conquer.
And evil
1:50 - Chapter 1 - The cur
5:40 - Chapter 2 - War pigs
9:05 - Chapter 3 - From russia with bloodlust
12:40 - Mid roll ads
14:20 - Chapter 4 - The dog of war
18:10 - Chapter 5 - Apocalypse europa
21:50 - Chapter 6 - The last war lord
Amazingly accurate and lucid!!!!!A big thumbs up!
It was awesome, great job, my compliments