The Eucharist for Divorced and "Remarried" Catholics?

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  • @Eazzy9092
    @Eazzy9092 7 років тому +5

    Thank you for this talk. It needs to be said and heard more often.

  • @MelissaJMJ
    @MelissaJMJ 7 років тому +2

    Thank you.

  • @tesschavit3009
    @tesschavit3009 3 роки тому

    God bless you father

  • @emmettbrown6418
    @emmettbrown6418 3 роки тому

    I really like the Father Gruner and Father Albert videos.

  • @babyangel315
    @babyangel315 9 років тому +9

    God Bless you both! I agree with you both full heartedly! Please pray for my husband he is good but needs to learn how to communicate with me and not run from his responsibilities as a husband who needs to take care of his wife. I pray he wakes up in Jesus' s Holy Name. He shouldn't be communication get with so called friends or my mom or family but listening to his wife. A man will leave his father and mother and cling to his wife is this not what scripture says? Even if they don't really love each other or are in love he agreed to marry in the Catholic Church!

    •  5 років тому

      Sounds exactly like my wife. Praying for you!

    • @JGuti-ko2xe
      @JGuti-ko2xe 4 роки тому

      You posted this 4 years ago. I will make sure to start paying for you both.

  • @celtist7824
    @celtist7824 4 роки тому +2

    My wife and I are both Catholic and married in the Church. We are currently separated due to her having an affair (it’s over) but she wants nothing to do with reconciling and filed for divorce in January. I want to save our marriage as we have children together. I assume she is still in a state of mortal sin. What can I do to get her to go to confession? She is considering going to Mass soon. I am concerned about her salvation.

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  4 роки тому +2

      We would recommend especially that you offer a 54-day Rosary novena for this intention. You can read about Our Lady's miraculous promise associated with this powerful devotion in the links below. The reason for 54 days is that by praying the Joyful, Sorrowful, and Glorious Mysteries in succession, each three days makes a complete 15-decade Rosary. After 27 days (9 X 3 = 27) you will have prayed a "novena" of full Rosaries in petition for your intention. Then immediately praying another such novena over the course of the next 27 days -- this time in thanksgiving for Our Lady's answer to your prayers, even if the favor has not been granted yet -- brings us to 54 days. God bless you.
      fatima.org/about/fatima-the-requests/54-day-rosary-novena/
      fatima.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/LF051_May-2013-web2.pdf
      archive.fatima.org/apostolate/vlarchive/pdf/vl130_novena_chart.pdf

  • @davidfleb
    @davidfleb 6 років тому

    Lex orandi, lex credendi.
    Eternal rest, grant unto them O Lord
    and let perpetual light shine upon them.
    May they rest in peace. Amen.
    May their souls and the souls of all the faithful departed,
    through the mercy of God, rest in peace.
    Amen.

  • @lauraingeorgia5052
    @lauraingeorgia5052 2 роки тому +1

    Knowing that marriage is between one man and one woman from the beginning with Adam and eve, and if we live outside of that we are in mortal sin, I can't help but Wonder what the deal was with King David as while he was in the Lord's favor, he had wives and concubines. Would he not be in the state of mortal sin? Yet God spoke to him. And God favored him. So my question is, what gives? It seems kind of like a double standard to me. And of course that whole thing with Uriah, and Bathsheba.. but I'm talking about well before that.

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for your question which we will submit for reply in our Ask Father video series. God bless you.

  • @onofrerigor3161
    @onofrerigor3161 5 років тому +2

    I believe that a divorced person is qualified to received Holy Communion, if he/she was separated unwillingly or against his will.Also, he/she has to undergo Confession before a priest before the Communion.

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  5 років тому +1

      Are all divorced Catholics necessarily excluded from receiving the Sacraments?
      No. Certainly an innocent party in a divorce, who has accepted the ensuing burden of living celibately, should not allow himself to be troubled by an exaggerated sense of guilt.
      To separate (with the local bishop’s permission) from an unfaithful spouse; to secure one’s immediate safety, or the safety of one’s children, by separating (even before seeking the bishop’s permission); to have been abandoned or divorced by one’s legitimate spouse - these are hardships, not sins. In themselves, they present no reason for a person to consider himself excluded from the Church.
      Any Catholic who has dutifully fulfilled the obligations of marriage, who has extended a willing offer to be reconciled with his or her true spouse (barring serious reasons against a reunion), and who has not taken up cohabiting with some new partner, should have no hesitation about continuing to receive the Sacraments, including Holy Communion, provided only that he first examine his conscience to ensure that he is in the state of grace.
      Even in regard to the guilty party in a divorce, if he or she has made a good Confession of his sins, with true repentance and purpose of amendment, he should take care not to allow his feelings of guilt to go too far. Our Lord instituted the Sacrament of Penance as a means of assuring sinners of God’s forgiveness, and thereby bringing peace to our souls. After making a good Confession and embracing a celibate way of life in harmony with the Commandments, a divorced Catholic should cling to the certainty of God’s forgiveness. For such a person, the mere fact of being divorced is no barrier to the worthy reception of the Sacraments.

    • @boblob2003
      @boblob2003 4 роки тому +2

      @@TheFatimaCenter So if a spouse leaves and divorces, the other person is never to marry? That's not what Matthew 19:9 clearly says. Also, Saint Paul said in 1 Corinthians 7:9, "it is better to marry than to burn with passion".

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  4 роки тому +5

      @@boblob2003 The meaning of that clause in Matthew 19:9, "except it be for fornication," is made absolutely clear in the light of an earlier passage of the same Gospel: "But I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, excepting for the cause of fornication, maketh her to commit adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery." (Mat. 5:32) In the first clause Our Lord affirms that a person may lawfully separate from an unfaithful spouse. In the second clause He insists that the marriage bond is still intact even in such a case, for a "re-marriage" of one of these parties would be nothing less than the sin of adultery. In 1 Cor. 7: 8-9, St. Paul is explicitly addressing widows and unmarried persons (i.e., those who are free to marry), not separated married persons. Note too that he goes on in the following verse to admonish married persons: "But to them that are married, not I but the Lord commandeth, that the wife depart not from her husband." God bless you.

    • @johnjoseph9929
      @johnjoseph9929 2 місяці тому

      ​@TheFatimaCenter Please help me understand? That if a man divorces his wife on himself being unfaithfull , does his seperated wife have the right to marry ?

  • @tracer0017
    @tracer0017 4 роки тому +3

    Well since this is a mortal sin and I am divorced and remarried I was thinking on becoming Catholic. I guess there is no point now? And since I am in a state of mortal sin I guess I am automatically going to hell? So why should I bother reading my bible or trying to be a good person? LOL there goes my faith, great video thanks

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you for your comment. We urge you to discuss the particulars of your situation with a trustworthy priest, and no matter how difficult the right course may appear, to take it with courage and trust in Our Lord. God bless you. sspx.org/en/community/priories

    • @donjon2023
      @donjon2023 3 роки тому

      Tangie Lynne. Breaking marriage vows is breaking the covenant you entered with God. Wich is mortal sin. It’s not mans law, it’s the way God intended it.

  • @johnc.7919
    @johnc.7919 8 років тому +3

    Mr wife just recently upt and left me.. I'm still hurting, does this mean that I have to be alone forever?

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  8 років тому +5

      +John C. A husband and wife are united by God for the remainder of their lifetimes. As long as the two live, they are bound to one another. But the same Lord Who tells us that if one spouse is put away by the other and then attempts to marry again, he or she commits adultery (Mark 10:12), also tells us also to turn to Him in our struggles to obey His law, and He will refresh and support us, and make His burden sweet and light. (Matthew 11:28-30)

    • @johnc.7919
      @johnc.7919 8 років тому +3

      +TheFatimaCenter I agree. scripture is clear on this. I hate to admit it though, but when I got married I hadn't yet reverted... I married a protestant Christian, of course in the Catholic church.
      my wife had stated when we were dating and into early marriage that she would be open to God's plan regarding children.
      unfortunately this was untrue, and she continued to place unreachable goals before she would have children with me . the fact she came into the marriage with this hidden agenda it sounds nullified, no? (although, of course I would still go back to her since I still love her).. what do I do

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  8 років тому +1

      Very possibly there may have been problems present from the beginning which could have rendered the marriage null. However, this is not an assumption that you can act on until the matter has been formally put before the local diocese's marriage tribunal and they have issued a decision. For you to begin dating another woman in the meantime would be a grave sin. As for going back to your present (assumed) wife, please be aware that you must not cooperate in any way in restricting the fertility of your union. The thought, too, that most all of the methods by which a woman independently "prevents" conception are truly abortifacients, might lead you to choose to have no more to do with such a woman, for the sake of your children's souls.

    • @johnc.7919
      @johnc.7919 8 років тому +5

      +TheFatimaCenter thanks for this advise. long story short, there will be more pain before storm clouds clear... if ever

    • @veronicastewart9927
      @veronicastewart9927 8 років тому +13

      +John C. Hi John, My Husband left me for another woman, and I feel the same as you about being alone for the rest of my life. It has been a long struggle for me to accept what has happened and a spiritual battle to deal with. However after a long time trying to battle with my conscience and praying a lot, I realise I have to let go and let God intervene on my behalf. Putting your total trust and faith only in God to help you works miracles, say "I surrender myself to you Jesus, take care of everything" daily, and watch Him work wonders. God Bless you brother.

  • @tesschavit3009
    @tesschavit3009 3 роки тому

    Amen

  • @patalex7314
    @patalex7314 9 років тому +2

    The proposal of cardinal Kasper is totally uncatholic. it is abominable to say the least. it is false to say catholics can live a life different from their belief. the Sacrament of the holy Eucharist is the center of catholic life, our final submit. The person who lives a life contrary to the churches teachings cannot in good faith receive communion.
    Satan is on the loose to destroy the church of Jesus Christ, and if your Holiness does not protect the seat of St Peter from this Kasperian Heresy, all of Christendom, whether catholic or not, will suffer gravely from this error.
    Furthermore let us not pretend that we do not know our God is a Merciful God, of course even the scriptures and tradition assures us of the tenderness of God's mercy, Nevertheless, we can not over emphasise God's mercy above his justice. while he is a merciful father, he is also a just judge. And a departure from his will (the Kasperian proposal) will attract nothing but condemnation all the perpetrators of this Heresy.
    FINALLY AND VERY IMPORTANTLY: I suppose the church has to consider the consequences of this Kasperian proposal:
    1. on marriage: this will bring a totally collapse of what it means to be in a valid catholic marriage. the Sacrament of marriage will now have, what is called a second chance, and of course this is absolutely abominable. While supporters of Cardinal Kasper may pretend that it will not, we have to look at the consequences of the proposal not just in our generation of church history but also in the light of the church's past and future history. it is unfaithful to the apostolic tradition we have received in the past and it will have an horrendous effects on our future history.
    2. on the sacrament of reconciliation: it will shame the sacrament of reconciliation and will ultimately mock the true meaning of God's mercy. the sacrament will now be a place where a priest will say to a remarried person "Your sins are forgiven, go and continue in your adultery". My gracious goodness! even a one year old can see that this is totally unacceptable under true christian theology.
    3. PAPAL INFALLIBILITY: this is perhaps the most threatening for the future of the church. if the see of St Peter declares this error, the catholic world is in trouble. the implication remains that the teaching authority of the church will be brought into into question, hence all of catholic teachings that flows with it. your Holiness be remained that all of christendom looks at the see of Peter with keen interest ( whether out f spite or good interest), a departure from what even most non catholics perceive to be the true teaching of christ, which the church has upheld for centuries will be devastating on all of christendom.
    4: "it was not so in the beginning,.. it was because of the stubbornness of your ancestors that moses allowed divorce....." you holiness should not make the same mistake moses made which our lord jesus sort to correct. while moses has an excuse that he had not baseline to make his decision on remarriage, your Holiness does not, because God the Son, himself spelt out this teaching clearly without mixing words.
    Most holy father, consider these issues and see the truth of the opposition from the likes of Cardinal Sarah, Burke, Mullër etc. and condemn this Kasperian definition of mercy as a Heresy.

  • @ytsniffer
    @ytsniffer Рік тому

    What if your husband remarries someone else? Are you then free to remarry as well, and worship as usual?

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for this important question. If a man and woman are validly married, it is impossible for either to marry anyone else. For as long as one's spouse is alive, any attempt at remarriage is merely a public declaration of an intention to live in adultery.
      There is a four-part article on this subject on our website, below. God bless you.
      fatima.org/news-views/straight-answers-for-divorced-catholics-part-1/

  • @AJMacDonaldJr
    @AJMacDonaldJr 9 років тому

    Cardinal Burke: Stop Communion debate now

  • @cecimeci4839
    @cecimeci4839 6 років тому +2

    Cardinal Casper decide, stick to our Holy Catholic Church, dont mislead us followers, its Gods Holy Laws and not yours, if u dont like it leave it, dont scatter us like lost sheep, we belong and have to obey the LORDS LAWS and not yours Cardinal Casper.!!!!!

  • @onofrerigor3161
    @onofrerigor3161 5 років тому

    I believe Holy Communion is not permitted to both couple-if a divorce proceeding is willingly initiated and accepted by both couple.

    • @210SAi
      @210SAi 4 роки тому

      It’s your belief but not what the Church teaches.

  • @boblob2003
    @boblob2003 4 роки тому +2

    Many years ago I was married in another church. My spouse cheated on me for at least a year and it was their decision to leave despite my efforts to keep things together. (Matthew 19:9 )
    Years later, I have gotten remarried to a wonderful Catholic woman and I am now seriously considering joining the Catholic Church myself. Am I not allowed to join the church because of this?
    Jesus clearly says in Matthew 19:9: "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, *except for sexual immorality*, and marries another woman commits adultery.”.
    Also, Saint Paul said in 1 Corinthians 7:9, to widows "it is better to marry than to burn with passion".
    Several people in these comments have been in similar situations and are trying to follow God's path for their lives, but yet it seems like "You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces." - Matt 23:13

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you for your question. We would encourage you to present the details of your situation in a full and honest manner to a trustworthy traditional Catholic priest such as of the Society of St. Pius X. He will want to ascertain numerous details of the circumstances of your earlier attempt to marry, such as whether you or that woman had already been married, or if either of you explicitly purposed to exclude children from your union, or if either of you had been baptized at that time. We urge you also to pursue this matter above all with a mind to discover the truth in orcer that you may be able to serve Our Lord in your lifetime with sincerity and a true hope for an eternal reward. God bless you. sspx.org/en/community/priories

  • @clivejames5058
    @clivejames5058 8 років тому +3

    Apostasy starts from the top they said - well, today the Pope has now changed this! wish Father Gruner was still alive as it would be good to hear his opinion.

  • @onofrerigor3161
    @onofrerigor3161 5 років тому

    This Priest is not qualified for a good preacher. I can't understand him. Listen, Jesus said that "What God had united in marriage, no one can separate them." Hence, if they divorce and recieve the Holy Eucharist in communion, clearly, they commited sin against the law of God - because he received Communion under the guilt of disobedience to God's Law.

  • @babyangel315
    @babyangel315 9 років тому +1

    Do you mean Saint John the Baptist? Who's Saint John Fisher?

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  9 років тому +6

      Patricia Megbuniwe Saint John Fisher was the only Catholic bishop in England who stood up to King Henry VIII. He was martyred about two weeks before St. Thomas More. See a brief account of both saints' lives here: books.google.com/books?id=ZHnM1a1NTugC&pg=PA285&dq=lives+of+the+saints,+john+fisher,+these+two+great+english+martyrs+did+not+both+die+on+the+same+day,+but+they+were+canonized+together+in+1935&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cUg-VYb8Bu3fsASH_oAI&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=lives%20of%20the%20saints%2C%20john%20fisher%2C%20these%20two%20great%20english%20martyrs%20did%20not%20both%20die%20on%20the%20same%20day%2C%20but%20they%20were%20canonized%20together%20in%201935&f=false

  • @imacoop588
    @imacoop588 9 років тому

    Did anyone else notice the 'graven image' they are sitting in front of while dictating what others are to do and not to do?

    • @veronicastewart9927
      @veronicastewart9927 8 років тому

      +imacoop What do you mean?

    • @imacoop588
      @imacoop588 8 років тому

      Veronica- Definition of 'Graven Image': A carved idol or representation of God to be used as an object of worship.
      . .the 2nd Commandment: Thou shalt not make any 'graven image' or any likeness of any thing that is in Heaven above, or that is in the Earth.
      . . How is that not a 'graven image' sitting on the table between them? Is Jesus not in Heaven above, as well as in the Earth? Is violating the 2nd Commandment any less a sin as violating the 7th?
      . . Hypocracy ..that my only point.
      (A 'graven image' of Jesus, who is a God in heaven, is still a 'graven image'. If the Commandment is not about Jesus, ..which God in heaven is the Commandment refering to?)

    • @Nan13711
      @Nan13711 8 років тому +3

      +imacoop Read this please: www.catholic.com/quickquestions/how-do-crucifixes-fit-in-with-the-old-testament-prohibition-of-graven-images

    • @imacoop588
      @imacoop588 8 років тому

      Nan13711- Merely a prime example of the many contradictions in the Bible. (Yes, I went to the link you provided) Please do not ask me to 'list' other cotradictions, just Google it for yourself : ''Contradictions in the Bible'' ....argue with those folks instead.

    • @clivejames5058
      @clivejames5058 8 років тому +9

      Read Exodus 25: 18-22, Numbers 21: 8-9 and Ezekiel 41: 17-20. Don't worry about statues/images as they themselves are never worshipped. The crucifix reminds us of the HUGE sacrifice Our Lord made for us. False idols are things like money, power, status. Those are the things you should be guarding against.