Edge Retention Test: Maxamet Insanity - The Best So Far - Spydeco Manix 2
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
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My experience over the last few months has been like yours. Maxamet is just crazy, crazy stuff. I have yet to have to actually sharpen the knife. If it shows a little dulling, I simply strop it on .5 micron diamond loaded leather and it's back whittling hair in no time. Not just back to serviceable sharp, it's back to hair whittling. Absolutely insane steel.
HAIL TO THE KING!!!
Just sharpened my Sage 1 Maxamet on my Wicked Edge. I used a 15.5 degree angle. The factory angle was slightly higher. My 100 grit took about 30+ minutes to get a burr. About another 10 minutes to refine the apex. I then progressed up through the 1000 grit diamond stones. I stropped with 5 and 3.5 micron paste on balsa.
I am hoping to see improved edge retention because it couldn’t reliably shave from a light 20 degree pass on a ceramic and 4 micron strop. My main work I gave it was pruning fine branches on the many bonsai that I own including up to half inch branches on shrubs. It was still a great working edge after it’s workouts with very light honing and stropping but I like to always have my knives shaving sharp.
Chrono Trigger, nice. I've definitely noticed you have a thing for rpg music (squaresoft RPGs in particular). Im a huge fan myself, and they have some of the best music. Maxamet is crazy stuff, don't own any yet, but what I've seen has certainly impressed me, but S110V is already stupidly difficult to sharpen. I'd be intimidated by something that holds it's edge longer... until I get my KME anyway.
Yes, I love video game music for the memories it rouses in me, plus so much of it just plain rocks!
Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors Right on Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy IX are 2 of my personal favorites.
I believe I got this knife in a raffle on one of the facebook groups I'm in, looked like a worksharp edge on it.
I just reprofiled it on my KME, little bugger took 2 and a half hours, and 10 of my lapping films to get a passable looking edge, this stuff is next level, makes the K390 I sharpened earlier look like 8Cr13MoV.
Insane. May need to upgrade my Manix LW S110V.
Did the Chrono Tirgger music. Best game IMO. 👍🏻
I can just imagine the rope manufacturers "there's a spike demand for rope in SA quick divert some shipments from Vic"
Wow - almost twice that of the Spyderco Police 4 with the Bohler K390. I thought the numbers on one of your graphs looked closer but that may have been different knives.
Love the music selection!
WOW...for once I'm speechless !
Thank you so much for all the testing you do!! So helpful!! I'm really into the super steels because of you and I'm having a ton of fun.
Awesome, I know what you mean about taking a factory edge and unsharpening it! Very very impressive performance too! Huge fan of this serious. Though I'd like some classical music while you do the cutting!
Alyeska Bushcraft heheh I was actually looking for a classical version of the song playing (Cronos theme from the game Chrono Trigger), but when the dude started going all butt rock on his guitar I just had to have it.
CedricAda Gear and Outdoors lol I see.
I for one have learned an absolute heap from these tests and I love the vids. keep up the great work and great music!!
thanks for these videos - it's a useful real world benchmark
the spyderco manix 2 in maxamet is only 169$ us dollars on midway USA with free shipping
Impressive, I'd still like to see something made out of MPL-1/Supracor though those pieces are incredibly rare.
That is the single worst and most painful music I have ever seen put into a video. That's the type of troll I expect from you. Good job!
Yeah woo hoo . Ordered from the red and black sale as a factory second for $79 +$13s&h . Hope a good one comes. The manix 2 maxamet sand s110v were goners super quick
Holy crap. Really. Stropped back. Jesus, what is that some crazy voodoo steel
i want to see a sleipner steel test
ooh. crono cross. you sure love them square music huh. Good taste and love your videos.
Thanks for posting. ..just got the paramilitary 2 in maxamet and the manix 2 in sv110. Also..don't assume there arn't any ladies watching when you sign off with "dudes" ...I know a few female knife nuts.
I'd like to see a test done on cruwear nobody has really done an edge retension test yet.
+Donnie Gray that and K390 are on the 'might near maxamet' list
GRAIL BLADE. thx for this Cedric.
cedric's a dog.
Awesome I watched your video and bought a maxamet manix 2.And now I'm considering a paramilitary 2 or 3 in cruwear.Thank you for the response and keep up the good work!
how's the hand ? wow. just realised you would have cut 563cm minimum of rope . What do you do with all these offcuts?
Hey Just Tex. He should dip them all in a bit of heated wax, and package them to sell. As Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors tinder fire-starter packs for campers, and outdoor enthusiasts. Support this Channel! Get you fire-starter packs here!
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@@SteveKluver man that's a good idea
God damn! Yeah that's just insanity I'm getting one!
insane. gotta try out my strider in cts40cp next 😉
Mad Man Yes! I will send you an email!
Hearing you recount the wear it put on your grinding belt makes me wonder where the sweet spot is between edge retention and ease of sharpening.
Impressive as they are, I don't think some of these extremely wear-resistant super steels are for me, as I often love to reprofile blades, not just maintain them. I might max out at ZDP-189... but even that might be wearisome to work on without resorting to power grinding.
CSGraves I think with a high tech automated system you'd do okay, but I think it would test the patience of a manual user. I think XHP, S35VN and their ill are in the sweet spot for retention/sharpenability
Ahh, thanks for the heads up on those steels!
Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors what's the easiest super steel to sharpen on a basic sharpening system??
.308or5.56? oooh... S35VN or Laminated CoS in my experience so far.
Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors I'll try to make the my first expensive steel. since I only have the worksharp field sharpener
Unstoppable! Until it needs sharpening - then it's YOU that are stopped.
Maxamet is actually easier to sharpen than s110v for me, but I have alot of money tied up with bonded diamond edge pro stones.
Bullshit lol
I put a new edge on my maxamet with my old DMT stones in seconds
Did you record the music coming from your cell phone? Jeez that’s bad
I can sharpen my knives decently well on several different sharpening platforms, but when I tried out the work sharp I ended up ruining a couple of knives. I didn't practice on any knife I cared about but after watching a UA-cam tutorial it seemed simple. Well I pretty much grinded the knife down to nothing after just a few passes. Any advice would be nice.
+Jmuk35 never use the green belt on anything other than an axe or a lawnmover blade. Brown and blue 4 life. Very quick pull throughs, 6 on each side (20 for maxamet) with brown then blue. Watch the tips - it'll eat them.
Hahaha dang, I dulled a sr1 coldsteel s35 and ruined it on my sharpening stones brand new too lol.
Please find XYR7 steel. (Made Japanese)
I guess the Rex 121 outperforms the Maxamet, any folder with it? Your video is from 2017 but I have right now (june 2020) purchased the same knife from Canada, still available new. Greetings from the antipodes aussie, from Spain.
Nice! Now I'm really glad I bought a Native 5 Maxamet. Thank You Sir!
You need to tape off the part of the blade not under test.
New to the channel got sent over from Nick Shabazz edc channel!
Really awesome channel!! Thanks for this awesome testing!! Really opens your eyes to different steels!
Nice video man. I love the breakdown at the end, I actually screenshot it for future reference. Lol at the butter knife steel getting 3 cuts :)
Dude. I love the music you use on your channel! I'm a huge Square fan too!
i absolutely love you're tests one thing I would change is to do a test with factory edge then worksharp edge just to see what the true factory performance is! thank you for all you're hard work.
So I'm going to pick up a manix 2 but I'm torn between s110v and maxamet....please help.
Hi, you'll be able to get a job working for Rockstead doing their videos if you keep this up, lol,, hey, there's a thought,,, try getting your hands on one of those to test, .. Cheers, John,,
John Waddington now thats a steel nerds grail knife!
1,000 cuts Jesus CRIST!
Chrono trigger theme for cutting rope haha
Christ, safe to say this is one of those knives you can buy and not ever have to sharpen....ever.
Great!! But I would recommend to put labels by marker at the beginning and the end of the used edge. This makes the test's accuracy is better
Why did you get the manix instead? The pinned handle is a dealbreaker for me... Also, do the liner-less scales flex a fair bit? I love you edge retention tests btw :)
looloolama i always found the native handle a little less comfy - truth be told neither are absolutely ideal knives for it, would love to see them in the endura and delica, but I think they needed to do it at the Colorado factory
I'll get the Para 3 in Maxamet once its available on Lamnia (the only shop in Europe with good prices and enough variety). I like the ergonomics on that knife way better than the LW manix.
Holy crap, that steel is AMAZBALLS!
I'd like to see you tape off the hole blade except for say like the first 2 inches. Just so we know your only cutting with the same amount of blade on every knife to not throw the test. Grate cutting test best on UA-cam
Sharpen knives free hand take it up to 8k stone that will split hairs for $15
May I ask why the audio sounds like someone shit right into my speakers?
Holy cow!
Now you'll be needing some SM100 or Stellite or something
Yeah, the search will continue!
...Wow...
Now i am curious how long it takes to put an edge back on for that point.
olmmedic stropped back to paper gliding sharp. I think you would very rarely have to put this to a stone
olmmedic I figured at least one Lord Of The Rings special edition.
Pete how many meters in total have you cut throughout these tests.
holy crap....
Damn
That's insane. Definitely going to look into getting a knife with some of that. Although still nowhere near as good as the godly bear grylls survival knife.
I’ve been looking at this knife but I want the lock style that you have. All I can find are the lock back designs
The music was great, just dramatic enough! I enjoyed the video and found the sympathetic shoulder pain very tolerable
Australia ?
Hanging to see spydiechef review
sam henderson should be up tomorrow!
563 cuts...
Some other video of yours i saw 1050 cuts?
Erm im slightly confused 🤣
my sharpening methods changes drastically, i shifted from a worksharp automatic belt type tool to a stone system. has been in interesting ride
@@CedricAda I would love to see you test this again after the stone edge.
witch hard use knife maxamet manixs or 110v pm2
Thomas Nardelli Out of those two? Probably the Manix, just a little less fragile in the tip than the Pm2, but between the endura, manix, pm2, stretch and Police, Spyderco has some great raw user blades
Thanks heeps
this knife or a standers pm2
Thomas Nardelli this knife. The steel is crazy compared to S30v
Please state the model number of the knife tested. There appears to be two different models of MANIX 2 in Maxamet
will be nightmare when you sharpening it lol
Not. Sharpen very easily on diamonds after about 30 minutes of reprofiling with 100grit. I expect that subsequent sharpenings should only take maybe 30 minutes max through a 8 plate progression. Diamonds cut it easily because the steel does not drag or smear across the bevel. The diamonds just abrade the steel away like dust.
20 if u want me to use the edge pro
Hello do you take email questions i dont want to start an entire conversation on a youtube comment section plus hard to send pics lol
+goodshepardknives sure man, cedric.ada@gmail.com
That steel is gonna make that rope in to a "sissy". Get it? Sisal rope.
First and impressed.
if you want a knife that you only have to sharpen once a year then this knife is for you lol good luck resharpening by hand on a stone though lol
Not that difficult actually.
Simon's Discoveries sure
if u want to sharpen it properly and have it stay sharp yea u need some skill and diamond stones/strops.. maxamet is pretty much ceramic steel lol
natsyrt m nah, I think it’s 3% less vanadium than s110v, so it’s easier to sharpen than s110v for sure, should be like m390. Just that low as hell chromium (4.75%) scares me. I’ll wait to see how that plays out for the stains and/or corrosion before I pick one up to replace my s110 v Spyderco or m390 benchmade.
10% cobalt 13% tungsten... thats why i said closer to ceramic... not just the vanadium to think about when those two are in there in that high of amounts. although yea the vanadium carbides are a little bit harder than them. tungsten still has a 9 mohs hardness vanadium around 9.5 s110v only has 0.2% tungsten...
stop farking up factory edges!!!!!!!!!
2,5 minute of video cutting rope. You can do that in 10 sec. Good testing btw, but keep it compact.
+ChannelBOZ101 I have to make a choice between being able to show the complete uncut test but keeping it speedy enough. If I edit it to be super quick, I worry people will claim I am altering results when they dont like the numbers. Remember, this one was so long because the steel is really long lasting.
Once again: you are not purely testing steels, you are testing steels under specific heat treatment protocols and formed into different blades geometries! As long as these variables aren't known and/or controled, the results are of limited value (limited doesn't mean zero). Especially for the knives that exhibit somewhat close perfs. There's no debate in between the butter knife and the maxamet of course.
+chibraxial yep. theres no one test that will answer these questions - but my cut numbers seem to generally line up with peoples experiences and expectations. Use the or do not, up to you.
On the other hand, there's only one production knife with maxamet that isn't spyderco, and the folders with maxamet have pretty similar edge geometry.
chibraxial stated many times their not scientific. Sheeesh
Why don’t you publish testing of your own that meets your criteria.
If this knife looked good I would consider it, can nobody see what I’m seeing,plastic tacky scales.. too much hype over Spyderco