The difference between GG drone and LL wolves is that the wolves will only move to another target once the first one is dead. On the other hand the wolves take some time to fly to the enemies while GG drones just teleport.
that probably means lappland will perform worse in IS with attack speed relics because of the travel time of her wolves crippling her actual dps but who knows? maybe they will travel faster with more attack speed but i doubt it's the case
@@kyarumomochi5146 It is M3. They mentioned in the previous video they used the M3 chip. Edit: If you mean the fact sometimes she has 3 wolves and other times 4 wolves, her skill gives her +2 wolves at any MR rank. She starts with 1 and after being deployed for a while she gains a second passively. So S3 takes her from 1-3 or 2-4.
honestly am i the one thay finds the way the wolves track the target very satisfying? like the way it just circles around the area when there are no enemies is definitely something wolves would do lmao
@@farellaksmann8659 Toggle skills would be a negative if we were going for lowstep, afk though is fine. Thorns and Typhon for example are staples in most AFK clears I tend to see and they both have skills that need to be activated twice to be effective.
Wait, i just realized GG drones are more suceptible to trash/another elite enemies with higher taunt if her drone explodes Laptop didnt have that *Bruh, she got that Constant DPS* Oh..and SHE CAN STILL ATTACK unlike GG S3
You guys are forgetting Lapptop's S3 is over 50sp with 40s duration, while GG is 35sp with 30s duration. In one skill activation Lapp deals more damage but GG can spam hers more often. I'd say they're sidegrades to each other
@@AlAyyub-p8t I'll assume she doesn't because Zarro works independantly from her when they are outside her normal range. Maybe her S2 might be better suited for Golden Chalice runs in Integrated Strategies. Or I could be totally wrong and Zarro takes their attack speed from Lappy's stats.
This is true, the problem with GG's global range is that her priority can be fucked very often by lower grade enemies that came nearer to the blue box, which makes her very ineffective at dealing focused damage against certain enemy in her range
@@hua.. well that is hardly a rule maps like annihilation have longer maps were 4-5 skills on units like silver ash are common. I wouldn't say I had to use 3 GG skills on the map therefore she preformed bad it is map dependent just like most of the game. the problem with high skill cycles VS low skill cycles is do the matter or not as longer maps tend to also have long periods of time before you get pressured again so you can wait 40 seconds for a skill to come back. the question becomes how long did I wait between skills and unless you are low oping a stage it literally doesn't matter bc you have other ops to cover your downtime.
I don't really see this as powercreep because for the most they seem to do the jobs equally, though I will say GG had a harder time with horde trash mobs, but Lappy did less to patriot. Also Lappys wolves have travel time and GG gets most of her damage from explosion procs. Best way I can think of it is they are both different types of knives, both cut very well and technically can use them for each other's rolls but for specific situations using the correct one will make it better.
@@ads3047 equally? Lappland literally has same damage to her against 90 res enemies, and gains higher utility on every metric GG wasnt even that insane to begin with, lappland is absolutely higher value
I imagine Lappy can still powercreep if they decide to give her a RES shred mod like they did to GG. Making her even more powerful. Will have to see what kind of mod she'll have
While I do think Lappy is stronger overall, I don't think this was a good showcase and it shows a lot of bias. Nearly every use of GG here (except 1:45) would have her perform better with S1 or S2. The main benefit of GG's S3 is regardless of where she is on the map, she can take out enemies who are close to the blue box, while Lappy's drones target the closest enemy to themselves, and none of these example showcase that aspect (correct me if I'm wrong on the Lappy part here). Also, at 1:08, why did you place GG 1 tile further forward than Lappy? Obviously she would get defeated sooner.
@@Dicaso9 which lappy disabled due to silence? it is in her kit to avoid that mechanic it really isn't that biased they both ended up dying I do think they should have been on the same tile but it doesn't end up mattering lappy avoided the attack down due to kitt not due to someone else baiting it out it is an absolutely fine comparison to make
Note that goldenglow is still waiting on her other module, which will be much better than her current one (probably cause we dont know how the talent upgrade will turn out)
@@slice9597 Judging by their performance against Patriot, it seems that GG is better able to deal with high RES. Probably because of her built in RES pierce and the high damage explosions. Speaking of which, in modes that involve potential ASPD increases like IS and SSS, those explosions cause GG's damage to climb a lot more than usual.
@@ChaosDraguss GG's total damage is RNG and targeting is skewed, so for consistency sake, Lapalt most of the time would be a better choice. And if the enemy res exceeds 90, honestly should just be using someone else and not either of these two.
I think they are well balanced around each other! GG drones individually (with explosions included) do more damage specially to higher Res. Lappland drones have more Aoe potential but actually deal less damage per dones but the reason Lappland does more damage is 1 extra drone and lappland continues attacking while in skill. GG drones will follow conventionally targeting ie. closest to box minus any taunt enemies (Shiledguards) and can switch targets mid attack ie reset target on explosion. allowing you to save/pickoff problems. Lappland drones get "stuck" on what they target first, even when new critical targets come out. But that targetting is so wolflike, pack of wolves roaming the map to hunt more prey. JUST USE BOTH.
Yeah right "Just use both" like Silverash/Mlynar, Chen/Irene/Degen, Walter/Rosmon, Bagpipe/Ines/all other vanguards, Texas/Yalter/Phantom, GG/Lapter, Saria/Rice Woman, Zhou le/all other mushas, etc etc Damn, forget there are only 12 slots per squad and most of the time you'll need to prioritize one over another. Can't always just use both you know. Blatant powercreep is just that "blatant powercreep" idk why people so afraid to criticize/acknowledge that
@@signer0001 but I already "just use both" Typhon and Rosa, Logos and Eyja, Pozemka and Schwarz so there's only 1 slot left for one of them, oh no what do I do??? You do WANT only 1 of them especially in something like CC with reduce dp/limited slots, or when you can't field them together most of the time because the stage don't have enough good high tile for 2 casters, or when you need to field other OPs as well not just caster like medic/vanguard, or when I'm broke af so I have to choose 1 of them to roll, or when i'm broke af I don't have enough resources for both of them, or when IS RNG moment and you have to choose 1 caster first. Damn, that's a lot of situations where you need to prioritize one more than NO situation at all. This argument is stupid af.
eh unlike other cases, they really both are sidegrades, you can argue about lappy>gg, but it doesnt change the fact that they both excel in certain situations better than the other. "blatant powercreep" mf lappy did slightly worse than gg, yet lappy did better at rock enemy than gg
Watching GG S3 being used instead of the superior (for the situation) S2 was weird...... That said, the effects for Lappalter S3 are really cool to see 🐺
Unironically the answer is to just use both. I know that's become a meme phrase but the Lappland vs GoldenGlow conversation feels too similiar to Texas vs Yato. You should use both to cover for the other operator when one doesn't have their skill up. I'm really looking forward to being able to sit back and clear out enemies with both Lappland and GoldenGlow before they even reach the defensive line.
I mean lappland covers GGs niche by a large margin, Texas and Yato is legitimate because fast redeploys are broken by nature already and they are good units. There is a reason it isnt "just use phantom and texas" when its "use yato and texas"
@@shadymann9468 Not really? They are comaprable so youd want to bring one over another. No need to have two units covering the same niche Elaborate on how it falls flat.
If the difference between Lappy and GG is a wide margin then the difference between Texas and Phantom is the Grand Canyon. GG is still clearly very strong as she has always been while Phantom was considered just okay even on release. While I would say that yes most people will likely replace GoldenGlow with Lappland, there is real immense value to having both in your squad at the same time.
@@ChuongDang185 The issue is GGs core job had been global damage wich Lappland covers her damage niche while providing metric tons of utility. GG will simply be more damage at that point wich is utterly repleceable But she does have res ignore for harder stuff and scales higher but its not them being good together but rather GGs niche of her own
GG is my most used unit. To have my other favorite unit lappy doing the same thing is amazing. Gonna put them in the same team and just cycle their skills on enemies.
After watching the video i like lappland alter but i like my Rockrock overclock skill more because the skill itself are simple minus the stun. Seeing the operator skill backfire to them....sometimes it's satisfying really. P.s Wish i have 5* Lappland so i can silence enemy and don't need to use my E0 lvl 50 Texas alter to silence enemy anymore.
The bladehelm clip is quite worrying, you can make your wolf fly and lock to another target but then not have it back to finish the original enemy. That would be quite annoying to play around in a cc scenario, but it could also be used intentionally.
Honestly, if the banners to come don't have anything that good, i'll pull in Lap(to)p's Banner more because of reduced cost to buy Rosmontis and because Texas is there as well.
It seems to be not easy to compare these two since they have 99% different mechanisms. Gg's drone explode(more damage) and sometimes changes targets(closest to the blue box) Laptop's wolves lock on to one enemy(does not explode+ targets enemies closest to them) Conclusion=I'll just be using both :D
It's funny to see such a bias video. I can say that GG is still a good unit. They have different ways to work, just like Mudrock and Penance. Now I'm waiting for a guy to reply my comment to show their bias for Lappy. That guy's account name starts with kya 🐧
... Equal? Compare the healthbars again lol And then remember that GG's skill is a much shorter duration, so even if the damage is equal the DPS is significant. And then factor in enemies being spread out and spawning from the edges of the map and Lappland's damage suffers while GG is a vacuum cleaner
the only time that I can even think that you would want to use GG over lappy alter is SSS. and that is mainly bc attack speed buffs are way cheaper than 5 stack tactician vanguards/casters. mainly because there aren't enough VGs to consistently stack lappy alter up. not that GG s3 is that good for the mode when things go right she can technically solo most of the mode but SP cost doesn't really matter in that mode the main appeal of GG was you could spawn kill some mobs so you could advance the stage faster but due to there now being stat caps in SSS you tend to want really high range and DPS skills put 4 in your roster and mull for one of them and the buffs you slowly draw through your deck till you get 3 DPS to cycle and kill everything and you don't have to worry about massive stat inflation anyways due to the cap being way lower than before. so basically the only mode I could see there being a difference lappy having super relevant CC for the mode kills her s3 usage. and for example S2 of GG is also fine in SSS but it isn't really comparable to lappy s3 we are comparing global ranges here. SSS could also theoretically increase res of enemies which could make GG better but most of the time it is HP def atk that increases per level it has happened before that res and move speed etc does increase by level but it doesn't matter. not that I am like the only one who actually likes playing SSS so not that people will care about in SSS GG might have a situation where she is more practical to use. I dislike GG comps in the mode already you can get fucked by starting hands and it is RNG based damage too. tldr: schizoposting about a mode nobody else likes
For people complaining about "just use both" supposedly being a poor argument: people arent telling you to use both in the same lineup. Use both. For different scenarios. It shouldnt be that hard to grasp.
Imo GG is design to 1v1 an elite/boss enemies while Laptop(prop to the guy who come up with this name lmao) is designed to clear a bunch of medium res enemies together
Lappland still deals more damage if the enemy has 90 RES, Lappland still doesn't lose much to GG in damage, but at the same time has silence and fear, which is more useful than a small difference in damage. Not to mention that enemies with RES above 90 can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
Both the damage gap not that huge but just Lappland have more utilities ,the silence and Fear combo is crazy ,especially with enemies who can dodge or have problem ability like teleport ...etc Goldenglow still best at killing drones
So, Goldenglow was my 3rd 6 star ever, I have had her as my assistant ever since her l2d skin came out, she's my comfort character for when I don't wanst to figure out mechanics and I love her to bits, that said, she got powercrept hard and it's not even close, this is a real Ch'en vs Irene situation, so the way drone casters work, getting more drones means basically having another caster with the same skill stats and talent hitting the enemy, lappland has 1 more drone than GG and she doesn't stop attacking, so that's 5 casters vs 3 casters hitting the enemy, GG has a crit and some res ignore, but that's not enought to get ahead of 2 other 6 star caster drones hitting an enemy, with the way that res works, GG needs an enemy with ridiculous levels of res, the type you wouldn't pit her alone against, sorry to say, my girl got powercrept hard. TL;DR : Lappland alter's damage floor and celing are just straight up above goldenglow because drone caster trait is very broken and arts damage scales great with multi-hit.
I’d love to see the kit scaling What makes GG so great in my team is that alongside Sora (now Theresa s2, I have no skalter 😢) She does an insanely increased amount of damage, only possible with champs that “crit” like chongyue or Ray From what I’ve read seems like lappland does a stable and high ceiling of dps with own attack increase To summarise I think it’ll be unbuffed win for LL and a buffed win for GG If you can spare the slot for a dammage up support you should take GG otherwise take the one slot LL
GG might be powercrept here for general use The trash clearing power of S3 is way too good that it makes the drones target a more high priority target faster which GG has a lot of trouble with and the duration of the skill is longer than my girl Susie... The only comparable thing here is: -Clearing power (GG can too but very RNG) -Skill duration/uptime whick makes either of them good in specific stages -damage vs High res units (+RNG i guess) -The CC can be debatable, Slow or Fear, pick your poison
The best? The best is Golden Glow in team with Lappy (and Ambriel) so one use his skill while the other reload, or... you just make fall the sky litterally on the face on the ennemies, wherever they are hidding in the map.... With Wis'adel and Logos waiting on the back to finish anyone who would dare to survive...
i'm not sure how much of a difference it'll make but vs single target gg's got more dps on s1 than s3 simple answer is use both and destroy everything :)
So GG outperforms LL in when enemies have insane res like Patriot since her Res Shred will actually make a dent, but in almost every other case, even with enemies with decent amount of res, like from 50-60, LL still wins simply because she attacks more and faster than GG. The showcase with the two knights is probably the best showcase of LL's weakness. Her drone can't change their target until their target is dead, unlike GG's drone, that can explode to allow for retargeting. It can be a problem since the wolf can fly off to target a near unkillable idle enemy while LL is stuck, unable to deal with incoming mob due to her drone being gone. Still, in most case, LL is just better.
@@kyarumomochi5146 untrue. GG did slightly more damage to LL in this showcase. That being said, GG's performance is highly rng, so yeah, in most cases, just use LL unless you need GG's ability to retarget her drone.
In cases like Patriot (boss with high RES) where he's the only enemy in the map, instead of GG, most players would opt to a Single-target core caster instead, or any other casters that deals more damage than GG, or use her S2 instead. In most cases, there would be other enemies in the map, trash enemies or slightly stronger enemies, or even boss with not-so-high resistance. GG will struggle clearing them with her S3. Yeah. Powercreep is real.
@@redbone9553 ngl if u use caster on 90 res enemies, then its on u. Heck how about buffing them with virtuosa, which is a practical solution for caster vs res on IS difficulty 15
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The difference between GG drone and LL wolves is that the wolves will only move to another target once the first one is dead. On the other hand the wolves take some time to fly to the enemies while GG drones just teleport.
in maria nearl, lappland wolves got stuck on the boss instead of going back to the elites
I think showcase isnt even m3 yet
@@kyarumomochi5146 i think he bought the m3 chip
that probably means lappland will perform worse in IS with attack speed relics because of the travel time of her wolves crippling her actual dps but who knows? maybe they will travel faster with more attack speed but i doubt it's the case
@@kyarumomochi5146 It is M3. They mentioned in the previous video they used the M3 chip.
Edit: If you mean the fact sometimes she has 3 wolves and other times 4 wolves, her skill gives her +2 wolves at any MR rank. She starts with 1 and after being deployed for a while she gains a second passively. So S3 takes her from 1-3 or 2-4.
honestly am i the one thay finds the way the wolves track the target very satisfying? like the way it just circles around the area when there are no enemies is definitely something wolves would do lmao
I think because they rendered them to be 3D
It's literally the fucking coolest
🐺🐺🐺
they are tracking for texas
A Pack circling their prey.
im an s2 gg user... AFK knights rise up
Lappy S1 is AFK.
@@farellaksmann8659it has a passive effect but is still an active skill iirc
@@KommandantAegis your point is...? Are we starting to not count toggle skills like Mountain, Lin, and Narantuya as an AFKnights anymore?
@@KommandantAegis Still included in afknights
@@farellaksmann8659 Toggle skills would be a negative if we were going for lowstep, afk though is fine. Thorns and Typhon for example are staples in most AFK clears I tend to see and they both have skills that need to be activated twice to be effective.
Wait, i just realized
GG drones are more suceptible to trash/another elite enemies with higher taunt if her drone explodes
Laptop didnt have that
*Bruh, she got that Constant DPS*
Oh..and SHE CAN STILL ATTACK unlike GG S3
Laptop
Laptop💀
calling her laptop from now
Man I love laptop
Why lapptop 💀
People: LappAlt powercreep GG
Me: Anticipating +1 member on global range team, the sniping will be glorious
We got... Ambriel (an actual sniper) GG, Laper. And any other?
@@sgtmarshall1515 Lemuen for global sniper 6* copium
skalter for global worm
Seeing Patriot get frightened is just something else
Yes, he is the most respected enemy, but that thing makes him scared.😂
"Rhodes Island, I Advance... Backwards😣"
Bro saw the wolves and was, "RETREAT!!'
Don't worry GG, I will still love you all the same.
gg iS best good game :>
Same❤
You guys are forgetting Lapptop's S3 is over 50sp with 40s duration, while GG is 35sp with 30s duration. In one skill activation Lapp deals more damage but GG can spam hers more often. I'd say they're sidegrades to each other
That’s the comment I was looking for, you can’t simply directly compare both without taking in account SP costs.
gg rng blast is really an issue to compare, sometimes it explodes 4 times in a row sometimes in 10s it didn't explode even once
Can you please tell me if Lappland will be a limited character?
@@kitiket2231 yes, her alter is a limited character
Imma use both cause I got both, sit them next to skadi alter and watch them kill everything
I love that we now call her Laptop. Doesnt matter who is stronger, the only thing that matters is who is cooler and Lappy has that in spades.
Laper
Idk, for me it always was "who is cuter" and gg still wins here
Laptop is referring to her being on top plattform as a ranged operator.
I don't know about "we" sir. That sounds yikes.
For some ppl cuteness>coolness
It's pretty much a side grade, I think GG just scales better with attack speed while Lappy scales better with attack boosts.
Lappy doesn't benefit atk speed?
@@AlAyyub-p8twe'll know soon.
Lappland only lacks the resistance shred. She's better in every way except that, but if she did have it, she would be insanely broken.
@@AlAyyub-p8t I'll assume she doesn't because Zarro works independantly from her when they are outside her normal range. Maybe her S2 might be better suited for Golden Chalice runs in Integrated Strategies. Or I could be totally wrong and Zarro takes their attack speed from Lappy's stats.
@@Muzakr_Halfdan her 2nd talent could've had res shred, but it seems devs thought she'll become too strong.
i object, several of these situations are goldenglow s1 situations
Very true and real
i object, logos clears these frauds
That's very true
This is true, the problem with GG's global range is that her priority can be fucked very often by lower grade enemies that came nearer to the blue box, which makes her very ineffective at dealing focused damage against certain enemy in her range
GG in SSS is one hell of a firepower and I will keep using her since I use S2 in normal stages anyway.
On the other side, the GG cycle is 65 sec while Lapp is 94, so there will be 3 GG skill activations for 2 Lapp skill activations
I will point out most maps don't last that long and the few that do tend to have longer downtimes between skill activation requirements.
If you need 3 GG activations, she already failed her job
@@hua.. well that is hardly a rule maps like annihilation have longer maps were 4-5 skills on units like silver ash are common. I wouldn't say I had to use 3 GG skills on the map therefore she preformed bad it is map dependent just like most of the game. the problem with high skill cycles VS low skill cycles is do the matter or not as longer maps tend to also have long periods of time before you get pressured again so you can wait 40 seconds for a skill to come back. the question becomes how long did I wait between skills and unless you are low oping a stage it literally doesn't matter bc you have other ops to cover your downtime.
1:44 I like how when lappalter faints she just shrugs and says BYEEE lol love that for her
I don't really see this as powercreep because for the most they seem to do the jobs equally, though I will say GG had a harder time with horde trash mobs, but Lappy did less to patriot. Also Lappys wolves have travel time and GG gets most of her damage from explosion procs.
Best way I can think of it is they are both different types of knives, both cut very well and technically can use them for each other's rolls but for specific situations using the correct one will make it better.
Must be Namie
@@ads3047 equally? Lappland literally has same damage to her against 90 res enemies, and gains higher utility on every metric
GG wasnt even that insane to begin with, lappland is absolutely higher value
@@kyarumomochi5146i agree with you, the dmg difference on pariot is not that big while lappy has more ultility to offer
I imagine Lappy can still powercreep if they decide to give her a RES shred mod like they did to GG. Making her even more powerful. Will have to see what kind of mod she'll have
at 90 res, elemental damage is far more appropriate than res shred.
While I do think Lappy is stronger overall, I don't think this was a good showcase and it shows a lot of bias.
Nearly every use of GG here (except 1:45) would have her perform better with S1 or S2. The main benefit of GG's S3 is regardless of where she is on the map, she can take out enemies who are close to the blue box, while Lappy's drones target the closest enemy to themselves, and none of these example showcase that aspect (correct me if I'm wrong on the Lappy part here).
Also, at 1:08, why did you place GG 1 tile further forward than Lappy? Obviously she would get defeated sooner.
I noticed that too XD, it feels bias
Storn has literally always been like that, every one of his videos are like this.
1:18 Gg has attack down debuff too
@@R0wlio-z2s she definitely did kill them faster, however the difference is increased by GG getting the atk debuff and being further up
@@Dicaso9 which lappy disabled due to silence? it is in her kit to avoid that mechanic it really isn't that biased they both ended up dying I do think they should have been on the same tile but it doesn't end up mattering lappy avoided the attack down due to kitt not due to someone else baiting it out it is an absolutely fine comparison to make
Note that goldenglow is still waiting on her other module, which will be much better than her current one (probably cause we dont know how the talent upgrade will turn out)
Putting aside Goldenglow swapping targets, her highest single-target DPS skill is S1. It would deal massively more than S3.
No one really use GG S1 though, for ST Arts damagge Logos and Ceobe S2 are much better.
Neither. It’s like comparing Penance to Murdock. They are sidegrades to each other that covers the other’s weaknesses.
Sure looks like there isn't anything GG does that Lapp doesn't do better going by this video and some other data I've seen...
@@slice9597 Judging by their performance against Patriot, it seems that GG is better able to deal with high RES. Probably because of her built in RES pierce and the high damage explosions. Speaking of which, in modes that involve potential ASPD increases like IS and SSS, those explosions cause GG's damage to climb a lot more than usual.
@@ChaosDraguss GG's total damage is RNG and targeting is skewed, so for consistency sake, Lapalt most of the time would be a better choice. And if the enemy res exceeds 90, honestly should just be using someone else and not either of these two.
logos
Yup. Just Logos.
"Heh heh delta module go BRRRRRRRRR."
sir, we don't think bringing a fighter jet in list of commercials plane are appropriate
1:34 lapp : HEYYY, TO WHERE YOU ALL GOING!!!
Strongest Drone Caster of History vs The Strongest Drone Caster of Today
I think they are well balanced around each other!
GG drones individually (with explosions included) do more damage specially to higher Res. Lappland drones have more Aoe potential but actually deal less damage per dones but the reason Lappland does more damage is 1 extra drone and lappland continues attacking while in skill.
GG drones will follow conventionally targeting ie. closest to box minus any taunt enemies (Shiledguards) and can switch targets mid attack ie reset target on explosion. allowing you to save/pickoff problems.
Lappland drones get "stuck" on what they target first, even when new critical targets come out. But that targetting is so wolflike, pack of wolves roaming the map to hunt more prey.
JUST USE BOTH.
Yeah right "Just use both" like Silverash/Mlynar, Chen/Irene/Degen, Walter/Rosmon, Bagpipe/Ines/all other vanguards, Texas/Yalter/Phantom, GG/Lapter, Saria/Rice Woman, Zhou le/all other mushas, etc etc
Damn, forget there are only 12 slots per squad and most of the time you'll need to prioritize one over another. Can't always just use both you know. Blatant powercreep is just that "blatant powercreep" idk why people so afraid to criticize/acknowledge that
But you CAN have both.
There's literally NO situation where you DONT want two global range casters.
@@schmushschroom3873 What in the world???
@@signer0001 Lappland covers it perfectly, why have another units thats worse in every metric for the same job???
@@signer0001 but I already "just use both" Typhon and Rosa, Logos and Eyja, Pozemka and Schwarz so there's only 1 slot left for one of them, oh no what do I do???
You do WANT only 1 of them especially in something like CC with reduce dp/limited slots, or when you can't field them together most of the time because the stage don't have enough good high tile for 2 casters, or when you need to field other OPs as well not just caster like medic/vanguard, or when I'm broke af so I have to choose 1 of them to roll, or when i'm broke af I don't have enough resources for both of them, or when IS RNG moment and you have to choose 1 caster first.
Damn, that's a lot of situations where you need to prioritize one more than NO situation at all. This argument is stupid af.
eh unlike other cases, they really both are sidegrades, you can argue about lappy>gg, but it doesnt change the fact that they both excel in certain situations better than the other. "blatant powercreep" mf lappy did slightly worse than gg, yet lappy did better at rock enemy than gg
I would just use GG and Laughter together, Global erasers
Now I want to see a comparison with like +100 aspd
Watching GG S3 being used instead of the superior (for the situation) S2 was weird...... That said, the effects for Lappalter S3 are really cool to see 🐺
Ambriel, GG, Lapalter... Are we seeing the roots of a new nicheknights genre? Globalnights assemble!
I didn't have GG, so instead of a normal banner, I might invested on Lappy banner starting now.
Both on the battlefield will be devastating!
18 RES ignore keeping GG on life support
If u use them both at the same time with the Global skills the moment u press it every enemy in the map disappears
Unironically the answer is to just use both. I know that's become a meme phrase but the Lappland vs GoldenGlow conversation feels too similiar to Texas vs Yato. You should use both to cover for the other operator when one doesn't have their skill up. I'm really looking forward to being able to sit back and clear out enemies with both Lappland and GoldenGlow before they even reach the defensive line.
I mean lappland covers GGs niche by a large margin, Texas and Yato is legitimate because fast redeploys are broken by nature already and they are good units. There is a reason it isnt "just use phantom and texas" when its "use yato and texas"
@@kyarumomochi5146 that argument falls flat when they're actually comparable units
@@shadymann9468 Not really? They are comaprable so youd want to bring one over another. No need to have two units covering the same niche
Elaborate on how it falls flat.
If the difference between Lappy and GG is a wide margin then the difference between Texas and Phantom is the Grand Canyon. GG is still clearly very strong as she has always been while Phantom was considered just okay even on release. While I would say that yes most people will likely replace GoldenGlow with Lappland, there is real immense value to having both in your squad at the same time.
@@ChuongDang185 The issue is GGs core job had been global damage wich Lappland covers her damage niche while providing metric tons of utility. GG will simply be more damage at that point wich is utterly repleceable
But she does have res ignore for harder stuff and scales higher but its not them being good together but rather GGs niche of her own
This is basically Penance vs Mudrock, both are good in their own ways, GG for bigger damage(with good RNG) and Lappland for better crowd control
Where are you seeing GG have bigger damage? The only instance was Patriot, and it was only by a tiny bit...
@slice9597 "(with good RNG)"
@@slice9597Lapp cant do shit to enemies with high RES lmao. Logos clear the entire caster class
GG is my most used unit. To have my other favorite unit lappy doing the same thing is amazing. Gonna put them in the same team and just cycle their skills on enemies.
oh god my ocd noticed how her vortex spins on the wrong direction
it's funny seeing lappland vs patriot. its like adc vs fed top laner in league.
After watching the video i like lappland alter but i like my Rockrock overclock skill more because the skill itself are simple minus the stun. Seeing the operator skill backfire to them....sometimes it's satisfying really.
P.s
Wish i have 5* Lappland so i can silence enemy and don't need to use my E0 lvl 50 Texas alter to silence enemy anymore.
The bladehelm clip is quite worrying, you can make your wolf fly and lock to another target but then not have it back to finish the original enemy. That would be quite annoying to play around in a cc scenario, but it could also be used intentionally.
Lappland looks cooler therefore shes better
GG can deal high dmg (Rng) while lapp only deal constantly small but better uptime and crowd control
omg yay im thinkin of the odd pathing n heavy push tactics possible with lapipi's fear thing
Honestly, if the banners to come don't have anything that good, i'll pull in Lap(to)p's Banner more because of reduced cost to buy Rosmontis and because Texas is there as well.
It seems to be not easy to compare these two since they have 99% different mechanisms.
Gg's drone explode(more damage) and sometimes changes targets(closest to the blue box)
Laptop's wolves lock on to one enemy(does not explode+ targets enemies closest to them)
Conclusion=I'll just be using both :D
wolf travel time is less of a dps loss than target switching from gg
This could've been single target vs. aoe, but those wolfheads seem to have aoe, crumpling that advantage.
"The strongest drone in history versus the strongest drone of today" ahh video
It's funny to see such a bias video. I can say that GG is still a good unit. They have different ways to work, just like Mudrock and Penance. Now I'm waiting for a guy to reply my comment to show their bias for Lappy. That guy's account name starts with kya 🐧
Not me watching this video to justify my lack of GG since day 1
Now the real question is does laptop scale with atk spd if so then i found a new duo to anihlate is
Pretty clear powercreep showcase if it took patriot (90 res) to make both of them equal in total damage
... Equal? Compare the healthbars again lol And then remember that GG's skill is a much shorter duration, so even if the damage is equal the DPS is significant.
And then factor in enemies being spread out and spawning from the edges of the map and Lappland's damage suffers while GG is a vacuum cleaner
@@Nazuikofine, gg deals slightly more damage on 90 (ninety) RES enemies
Note to self, use GG and Lapalter in same squad
So…Lappland alter is mostly on constant dps with debuff while GG is burst damage…honestly, they both are slightly on par with each other
Conclusion use both lappi alter and goldenglow... that's what I'm gonna do
Do you even have enough slot left in your squad
@amb6676 I can compromise 😎😎😎
@@amb6676 oh so that's your worry about? Pathetic we can adjust ourselves
the only time that I can even think that you would want to use GG over lappy alter is SSS. and that is mainly bc attack speed buffs are way cheaper than 5 stack tactician vanguards/casters. mainly because there aren't enough VGs to consistently stack lappy alter up. not that GG s3 is that good for the mode when things go right she can technically solo most of the mode but SP cost doesn't really matter in that mode the main appeal of GG was you could spawn kill some mobs so you could advance the stage faster but due to there now being stat caps in SSS you tend to want really high range and DPS skills put 4 in your roster and mull for one of them and the buffs you slowly draw through your deck till you get 3 DPS to cycle and kill everything and you don't have to worry about massive stat inflation anyways due to the cap being way lower than before. so basically the only mode I could see there being a difference lappy having super relevant CC for the mode kills her s3 usage. and for example S2 of GG is also fine in SSS but it isn't really comparable to lappy s3 we are comparing global ranges here. SSS could also theoretically increase res of enemies which could make GG better but most of the time it is HP def atk that increases per level it has happened before that res and move speed etc does increase by level but it doesn't matter. not that I am like the only one who actually likes playing SSS so not that people will care about in SSS GG might have a situation where she is more practical to use. I dislike GG comps in the mode already you can get fucked by starting hands and it is RNG based damage too.
tldr: schizoposting about a mode nobody else likes
I choose two of them 🤧 best archetype ever! (For me hehe)
For people complaining about "just use both" supposedly being a poor argument: people arent telling you to use both in the same lineup. Use both. For different scenarios. It shouldnt be that hard to grasp.
Lappland's skill kinda reminds me of Kratos's Army of Hades from God of War 1
y'know it's wild that mudmud's colossus has more hp than patriot
My only question is how ASPD affects Lapp2's wolves.
I think what makes GG shine is her S2 no?
nah, i use her S3 more
for AFK. Logos will replace it though
The wolf animation did downs Lapland capability
Imo GG is design to 1v1 an elite/boss enemies while Laptop(prop to the guy who come up with this name lmao) is designed to clear a bunch of medium res enemies together
Lappland still deals more damage if the enemy has 90 RES, Lappland still doesn't lose much to GG in damage, but at the same time has silence and fear, which is more useful than a small difference in damage. Not to mention that enemies with RES above 90 can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
to me looks like GG still have it uses like really highres ST and consistent targeting, but laptop definitely have more feature and general use case
What a mess they can do together?!
Good ole lapland with silence.
Both the damage gap not that huge but just Lappland have more utilities ,the silence and Fear combo is crazy ,especially with enemies who can dodge or have problem ability like teleport ...etc Goldenglow still best at killing drones
man i love this bambinata theme song so much
So, Goldenglow was my 3rd 6 star ever, I have had her as my assistant ever since her l2d skin came out, she's my comfort character for when I don't wanst to figure out mechanics and I love her to bits, that said, she got powercrept hard and it's not even close, this is a real Ch'en vs Irene situation, so the way drone casters work, getting more drones means basically having another caster with the same skill stats and talent hitting the enemy, lappland has 1 more drone than GG and she doesn't stop attacking, so that's 5 casters vs 3 casters hitting the enemy, GG has a crit and some res ignore, but that's not enought to get ahead of 2 other 6 star caster drones hitting an enemy, with the way that res works, GG needs an enemy with ridiculous levels of res, the type you wouldn't pit her alone against, sorry to say, my girl got powercrept hard.
TL;DR : Lappland alter's damage floor and celing are just straight up above goldenglow because drone caster trait is very broken and arts damage scales great with multi-hit.
Thank you for the explanation. I never used drone casters, so it is very helpful
Another thing is that Lapp actually keeps her auto on global skill, which GG does not.
just use both at the same time you don't have to choose
For utility I say Lappland better but for damage both are equal. GG will be slightly better than lappland if she can proc her drone explode more
Lappy wolf dmg is a fixed interval? I think I still gonna use GG more but who knows
I’d love to see the kit scaling
What makes GG so great in my team is that alongside Sora (now Theresa s2, I have no skalter 😢)
She does an insanely increased amount of damage, only possible with champs that “crit” like chongyue or Ray
From what I’ve read seems like lappland does a stable and high ceiling of dps with own attack increase
To summarise
I think it’ll be unbuffed win for LL and a buffed win for GG
If you can spare the slot for a dammage up support you should take GG otherwise take the one slot LL
Main difference is : time of release.
New operators tend to be wayy OP than old ones
GG might be powercrept here for general use
The trash clearing power of S3 is way too good that it makes the drones target a more high priority target faster which GG has a lot of trouble with and the duration of the skill is longer than my girl Susie...
The only comparable thing here is:
-Clearing power (GG can too but very RNG)
-Skill duration/uptime whick makes either of them good in specific stages
-damage vs High res units (+RNG i guess)
-The CC can be debatable, Slow or Fear, pick your poison
because GG is one target only while Lappy is multi target
How they work will determine when best to use either. Logos is probably superior to both.
Laptop looks so fun though.
GG "wait till i become alter wolf" 😂😂😂
I feel like gg is better against more tough enemies while lapalter is better for swarm clearing
The best? The best is Golden Glow in team with Lappy (and Ambriel) so one use his skill while the other reload, or... you just make fall the sky litterally on the face on the ennemies, wherever they are hidding in the map.... With Wis'adel and Logos waiting on the back to finish anyone who would dare to survive...
i'm not sure how much of a difference it'll make but vs single target gg's got more dps on s1 than s3
simple answer is use both and destroy everything :)
For a non limited character gg is better imo but lappy has a slight edge over gg with ai
IMO LL its better bcs she have like fear debuff, so can buy time to kill the mobs
Nah, i just bring them both. Double global attack double the fun
She's pretty broken. Between her and Logos I couldn't decide who's better
It's Goldengl-over :(
peak pgr music jumpscare
Strongest caster of all time vs strongest caster of today
Oh thank god I don't have Goldenglow and I so did not want her
Banger OST
So should I slot both of them in if I get LL? or is it too redundant for both?
(I’m new to this game btw)
welcome to global range gang
ザーロの生首ファンネル強すぎやろw
澄闪有法穿，对于法抗高的敌人使用会很舒服😌
Where do you even get an HD version if their splash art?
It’s upscaled
@Storn_ what do you mean upscaled? You can adjust the resolution when you view it?
Who is better I don't know, but I like cuddly cat more than crazy wolf
So GG outperforms LL in when enemies have insane res like Patriot since her Res Shred will actually make a dent, but in almost every other case, even with enemies with decent amount of res, like from 50-60, LL still wins simply because she attacks more and faster than GG.
The showcase with the two knights is probably the best showcase of LL's weakness. Her drone can't change their target until their target is dead, unlike GG's drone, that can explode to allow for retargeting. It can be a problem since the wolf can fly off to target a near unkillable idle enemy while LL is stuck, unable to deal with incoming mob due to her drone being gone.
Still, in most case, LL is just better.
@@redbone9553 except Lappland literally has same performance to GG solo against patriot...
@@kyarumomochi5146 untrue. GG did slightly more damage to LL in this showcase. That being said, GG's performance is highly rng, so yeah, in most cases, just use LL unless you need GG's ability to retarget her drone.
In cases like Patriot (boss with high RES) where he's the only enemy in the map, instead of GG, most players would opt to a Single-target core caster instead, or any other casters that deals more damage than GG, or use her S2 instead.
In most cases, there would be other enemies in the map, trash enemies or slightly stronger enemies, or even boss with not-so-high resistance. GG will struggle clearing them with her S3. Yeah. Powercreep is real.
@@redbone9553 Slightly more... to a 90 res target lol
@@redbone9553 ngl if u use caster on 90 res enemies, then its on u. Heck how about buffing them with virtuosa, which is a practical solution for caster vs res on IS difficulty 15
Ngl, Lapp's wolves are so satisfying
I kinda love her's more
though I love them both because who wouldn't love a Golem melting waifu
gg still rly good, and isnt powercrept
but if u are a new player that doesnt have a caster of this class lap is way to go
Sukuna vs gojo meme?