Cafflano Kompresso Review: Can It Make Real Espresso?
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- We tested the most affordable espresso maker on the market: Cafflano Kompresso. Can it make real espresso? What's the best espresso recipe we found? We will share how to make espresso at home with Kompresso!
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If you want to start your dialling with our recipes, try this:
12 - 13g coffee
10 - 13 clicks on Comandante (18 - 27 Red Clix)
60 g of filtered water (94 - 96 °C)
Pre-infusion 10 - 15 seconds
Total brewing time 40 - 60 seconds
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This is an exceptionally well made review - most thorough, concise, and clearly presented by experts.
Thank you from our team! :)
If coffee isn't dripping - you can use pre-infusion next time (force 15kg) for 5-15 seconds. Pre-infusion helps a lot.
Hey! It was meant just as a comment to when the grind is too fine, but definitely a good tip for using saturation to help the flow during extraction! :)
This is the best review and instruction for Kompresso. Thank you very much :-)
Thanks, Sumrit!
Hey I just wanted to say that I went out and bought a Kompresso based on your video and I just made my first real latte and it's just amazing. Maybe I just got lucky with the grind and everything but all in all I'm super happy!
What coffee makers or products should we review next?
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If you want to start your dialling with our recipes, try this:
12 - 13g coffee
10 - 13 clicks on Comandante (18 - 27 Red Clix)
60 g of filtered water (94 - 96 °C)
Pre-infusion 10 - 15 seconds
Total brewing time 40 - 60 seconds
Enjoy, let us know how it works!
Nanopresso
1Zpresso JX-Pro grinder - a review, please?
Joepresso
Cafelat Robot - great manual espresso maker but not cheap - 400€+-
handpresso
I've been using it daily in my office and on all my outdoor trips for few months now
. I also take it with me on bike trips. It's awesome. Tastes great if you have good beans and grinder. I use Cafflano Krinder and its jar fits the basket nicely, so no funnel needed.
Really nice review!
I tried and I get a very dense and syrupy extract using a dark roast. Even if I put more than 60ml I still get less than 30g out and it feels too concentrated. If I reduce grind size then it extract too fast... Any suggestions?
@@assemblywizard8 How much coffee do you use? I use 14-16g and pour more water than 60ml. I get a 32-34g shot. Try changing the grind size and dose size.
I've made a simple stand from wood. Plank with hole in the middle where it fits, and it has two feet so a scale + cup can fit under it.
In other words, I can press consistently and harder with less effort, and I can measure my output. Preheat the water-piston / chamber, and I get consistently good shoots once you are dialled in. That might take some practise though.
You can apply way more pressure with using your hand to push + pull, instead of leaning on it.
The best Kafflano Compresso review out there!
Thank you, glad you liked it :)
So Tomo has fully joined ECT? Sweet! Awesome review 👍
Yeah, Tomo will cover about 2 videos every month. He will also work on his personal projects but you will see him quite a lot on the ECT channel ☕️👊
Excited for your review!!! :D
Great video as always guys! I’m glad to see Tomo joined the team and I’m eager to see what he’ll show to us with his experience and creativity :D Hope you all are doing well! See you
great video and well told, as always friends!!
Simply excellent, overall. I have a Kompresso and couldn't agree more. It's unbeatable for its price. We pitted it against a Kees Van Der Westen Slim Jim (with progressive pre infusion) just for fun and this little beast truly makes 80-90% pro level espresso.
This is the best review on the Kompresso I've seen. Thank you guys!
I always brewed it with 10.7g of coffee and 65ml of water at 92C, but I'll try this recipe tomorrow. Great video!
Thank you! Let us know how you like the recipe once you try it!
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip after the piston reach the bottom, lift it up right a way, or just leave it like that?
Good guide and very nice video review!
great job tomo! keep going! thanks!
Also, too much force can damage thread on basket. So it's crucial to not tighten it much. Otherwise - $10 for new basket.
Where they sell the basket ?
Good to see you Tomo!! 💪
Siemanko :)
I’ve modified the tamping scoop. I removed the cafflano mark and attached an acrilic circle with 2 mm thick and diameter 46,6 mm. I attached it with strong glue. Very satisfying after tamping. I don’t see grounds sticking to the wall of basket and the tamper either. You must try it. It’s cheap also. Hehe
did you cut the circle yourself?
@@assemblywizard8 no, it was laser cut. With laser cutting machine. You can find at the workshop that making letters for office name. Haha i don’t know how to explain it well in english.
Thank you very much for this video. I have mine from KS campaign and really like what this inexpensive tool can produce ! I think its worth it to spread the information, because with good grinder and Kompresso one can start learning to make great espresso for very low entry price - without spending thousands of euros/usd - which is great IMO. I am not sure though aboutz method of pushing that is presented, because if I remember it well, the makers did not recommend this for safety reasons - but maybe this has changed in the meantime? Not sure.
Also, I actually think its a good starting point for a beginner, if he/she wants to learn fast and is able to look for recomendations, watch some video and so on .... due to being fully manual tool all parameters are exposed to the user and its really fast way to learn :)) I would say from my experience that its actually easier to learn than a manual lever machine like Gaggia Achille ...
Awesome tutorial. Thanks
Very interesting. Thanks for the video.
Very nice review!
Tomo was great! Hope to see more of him soon
Thank you from our team! :)
Where did you get those plastic coloured grind bins for the comandante? @ 1:53
We are lucky to partner with Comandante so we get some new products before the release. They should start selling them later this year!
They are not plastic though. They are very hard glass
@@Aa-nk8qb thanks for clarifying.
I came across your video in May 2021 (a few months after it was made) but as UA-cam always do, it automatically recommend similar videos and the one following yours was one made by James Hoffman more than 2 years ago. In his video, the coffee made from the Kompresso did NOT look like espresso at all (it might taste somewhat like espresso as James pointed out). There's no creme at all. I wonder:
- was the product improved over the last two years?
- James didn't seem to apply as much pressure as you were showing in this video (bro, you are like 1.5x or maybe twice the size of James). Is that the main reason for the difference?
- with the pressure you were exerting, will the Kompresso break easily? can you use it like once a day to see how long it will survive?
Thanks for the video! If you were to make a cappuccino from a 30gm shot extracted this, how much milk would you use? And do you think it’s better to use two shots (60gm) instead of 1?
I was thinking about getting rid of my Gaggia Classic and buying a smaller espresso maker. This could be it. I also pre-ordered tbe Seven and Me moka pot and milk frother. This combo should declutter my kitchen space but we'll see haha.
I will never buy espresso machine ever again... Too much hassle. Only manual. Now cafflano is good
@@martinkulik9466 yeah it's a huge hassle. Unless you really love it or LOVE espresso there is just too much going on with it. Maintenance alone is a hassle.
@@LumiLunar I was getting sick from espresso. not many people realize the water inside these machines travels through all kinds of plastic iron metal chrome and copper....no thank you. I won't buy another espresso machine ever. only manutal and stainless steel only contact with water
@Ursh KHARBANDA my cafflano broke...I have aeropress 2 years made thousands of coffees. 2-4x day and still strong. cafflano broke after 2 weeks. and I am supposed to buy new part plus 50$ shipping
@Ursh KHARBANDA I didn't say aetopress makes espresso, but my technique is solid witg fellow filter. Plus my body tolerates better weaker less oily less particles coffee from aetopress while still enough caffein than thick espresso that's taxing on my kidneys
Great review
Nice review. Any solution for the tamper ? I mean what is the diameter ?
We haven't tried them but try to google Kompresso 3D tamper there are some cool free models from other users :)
46,6 mm.
Hello!
Would you create a tutorial about turbo shots in CAFFLANO KOMPRESSO please ?
When I press with my palms I feel no resistance and I end the brewing in just 3 seconds or so and getting no crema. Even if the grinding is fine. Should I press with less power? And does it have to be longer as 30 seconds by maintaining constant power? Please explain me the right method because I'm sure that I do it wrong.
Hello, I think you probably still need to grind finer. Do you have a grinder that can grind for espresso?
@@tomol5785 Yes, I have the bialetti 1-6 cup grinder. I have grinding as fine as I can and there is some improvement, but only when I use 14-15 grams of coffee.
Do you know this grinder and know if it is good enough?
Nice! Thanks for these videos. I've been loathe to even try espresso at home, as it's never been good enough, and hard to make consistently. This looks promising. I use a Baratza Encore - have you got a rough number equivalent for that grind? I'm guessing it'll be down around 10 or 8, for example.
Personally don't have experience with the Encore, but for Espresso you want it really fine, like the texture of sea sand (that's how I learned it at least)
I have to grind little finer than for espresso otherwise water will flow easy... So you have to grind very fine almost powder
the only cons that I have with cafflano kompresso after quite some time of ownership is the yield, no matter how many grounds you put in, the max volume u'll get is around 27g. the pressing part and fine grind size part my exiting grip and electric/hand grinder can do the job, just the yield u can't get more then 27g. hence, i got myself a flair. :D
Good point! You could get more Yield but you would have to sacrifice the fine grinding :/ but for 12-14 grams of coffee 25 - 29g yield works pretty good!
@@tomol5785 it seems like the best strategy for dialing in would to aim to get a grind size that works 12-14 grams of coffee right? Since yield is pretty much limited to 25-29g. Tamping pressure is something maybe that can be played with influence puck resistance then? and only if for some reason we want the brew ration to be different do we think about changing dosage. Yes?
@@gandharvchawla9043 Yes to 12 - 14g of coffee. I don't usually try to change tamping, just keeping it stable so I don't think you can change here anything much. To last question yes, but you can also change the volume of water! :)
Several years late to comment, but it will be great if someone responds.. i just bought mine, but I think there is something wrong with the rubber piston. It's too loose until it hit around 60ml text on the chamber, but after that I feel the pressure when pushing it. My question, is it normal? Or mine has defect on the water chamber so the piston will hit the water first before creating pressure with air
Sorry in my English is not too good
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It would be nice to compare Wacaco Picopresso with Cafflano Kompresso
What is the difference in taste between this and the Mona pot?
Can you compare it with picopresso? it's available in Czech Republic already now
Now I can see all the camper channels will be raving on this product . LMAO 🤣👌
But I need 💯 percent manual espresso maker that is the truth.
Do you recommend this machine? This make a good espresso?
Mine keep tripping when I poured the hot water in. Any idea how to fix it?
Awsome machine lattes come out consistently great
Thanks a lot for the Video...but 13 clicks on Comandante could not be right it's lot too rough
Is it possible to use pre ground coffee which is available in supermarkets with cafflano kompresso? Because buying a grinder will be an additional money spending, kindly give me a feedback.
I would suggest to buy coffee in your favorite cafe (or you can check out our coffee guides on our website and pick any other coffee shop near you) and ask a barista to grind it for you for espresso. Buy only as much coffee as you are able to drink within ~1 month. That way you’ll be able to brew fresh coffee and get the most out of it ☕️ Radek
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip thank you so much for the suggestion, I will definitely try this.
Mine come with the shower screen stuck by default to the water chamber, how do I take it off? I'm scared I'll break something
Grind size with kinu?
What is maximum capacity of the basket?
I cant get a decent crema, what am I doing wrong? I am using your recipe. Any ideas?
hey! When was your coffee roasted? It might be because of "older" coffee. Option b) would be the grind setting. Did you feel the resistence when you were pushing the piston? Perhaps try to grind finer :)
@@tomol5785 coffee is 2 weeks old (roasted 14.1.2021), I believe its because of wrong grind settings, because the resistance is not big. I will try grind more finer. Thanks :)
How is this compares to nanopresso?
When they have version 2.0, i might buy it!
search 1zpresso, results are very good
Been waiting for a review like this one. This is great content. I own one and kompresso has been my first coffee gadget. I'm quite new to drinking coffee due to previous health reasons and boy I can say that I missed half of my life. I will try your recipe but I need to buy a scale to measure the coffee. Thanks a lot
Thanks for nice comment, I hope you will enjoy it! :)
How's the durability on the cup of the kompresso?
I wonder if they could make a glass receptacle for just the brewed coffee, to avoid the negative plastic experience.
You can press it directly into a (robust) cup.
I heard it from an employee from cafflano in korea and she told me that they used the material safe for hot beverages approved by KFDA
I'm not able to generate enough pressure as you got in your video. I'm using expresso grind, but I'm easily able to press (less than Aeropress) so my extract is not concentrated as expected. Not sure where I'm doing it wrong. Could there be a problem with the red piston gasket? Any tip would really help.
What is "expresso grind"? If you're using pre-ground coffee (or terrifying supermarket coffee 😨) you will most likely never get the pressure you need since that won't ever be fine enough.
Unfortunately for espresso a very decent grinder is absolutely necessary and they are typically quite expensive.
@@MaruelZain yes pre-grounded coffee. It might not be very fine but as I'm about to press just little the coffee starts dripping. Are there ways to test if the equipment is fine?
@@luckyb56 that early dripping is a sign the grind is not fine enough, the tamp is not enough, the amount of coffee is not enough, etc. If it's pre-ground from supermarket I can guarantee it won't be fine enough. If it's from a coffee roastery (not coffee store, that's sometimes the same stuff as a supermarket) then check with them what grind setting they are using, you can tell them what device you have, you want fine enough for unpressurized baskets. From what you're saying there's no indication your equipment has any problem whatsoever. Good luck!
As James Hoffman pointed out there is water left in the chamber after you were done pressing and with 60ml in you got 27ml out? So is there any way to control the input/output ratio?
I wouldn't care much. Output is like ristretto/espresso. Also don't forget the water didn't reach the coffee there is sure bubble. After you make coffee there is water you can push again but it will not taste good/. Will add harsh bitter.
James hoffman is more concerned how his video will be interesting than actually reviewing the product. But he is right, it's almost espresso... But you can taste the pressure is not as high as with machine...
You can control it. As you pointed out correctly, not all the water will get through the coffee puck. So the final Yield depends on the volume of coffee, grind setting and how much water you pour into the chamber. You have to play a bit to get it right :)
Tested elbow style. Unstable force. 30-41kg (for 85kg human). Quite hard to find perfect spot for pressing.
Do whatever works for you buddy! :) I managed to create 55kg force (my bodyweight is 90kg) and found it the easiest and most effortless. I think it's about personal preference as well. I simply enjoyed the elbow the most.
Just picked one up for £44. Very impressed at the price
Where did you buy it from? I cannot find much UK stock right now, let alone for that price. Cheers!
@@MaruelZain The company I got it from took it off their store. Mine broke, I contacted the company I got it from and they tried to get it sorted by the manufacture via replacement or refund.
Long story short the manufacture wouldn't accept it was their fault and the company I got it from took all their products off there website because of how poorly cafflano dealt with the issue.
Its wasn't great tbh, i'd save the money and buy something like a "Flair Espresso Maker"
@@DevArts Thanks for the info! Did you get the filter screen failure? I read about it online. Seems like a design issue but some people suggest it won't fail if you don't use too much pressure (which I guess it's very easy to get wrong since there's no way to gauge the pressure as you go...)
I was interested in this device because of how portable it is, for example to take it to work and make good coffee there. Unfortunately the flair would be a bit too much for the office and not really practical for vacations (and definitely not for bringing in a suitcase).
@@MaruelZain The one of the red handles on mine just snapped off while I was squeezing it.
Thought about an areopress go? It won't be able to make espresso like coffee but does make a great cup of normal coffee. Plus is packs away into a cup
@@DevArts I have the aeropress :) Thanks for the response, it's discouraging but good to know the machine is probably not very sturdy and yeah it seems their customer service is not great. Cheers!
How many clicks on comamdante did you suggest for starting point on kompresso?
Try to start at 11 clicks :) you might end up somewhere between 10 - 13 clicks.
❤❤❤❤thank you very much
How is your shot so creamy, mine was bleh even though i used great espresso beans and grind setting
Great video and I will try it! But dont you think that 13 clicks is a bit too much for espresso? I though that 6-10 clicks is okay for espresso grinding.
Hey Crovenko! We used precisely 27 clicks on Comandante with Red Clix (which is about 13 clicks with the original axle). Of course, it depends on your coffee a lot! Definitely brewed some coffees on about 18-20 clicks with Red Clix (circa 9-10 clicks with standard axle).
@@tomol5785 thank you :)
@@tomol5785 where is 0 on the Comandante for your guys?
I have to grind finer for this than for espresso machine.... It's almost powder because otherwise bigger grind it flows too easy
@@TheOwlol for us grind setting: 1 click means when axle starts "falling" by itself. 0 click is when the gravity does not move the axle - therefore the burrs are touching.
mileage may vary but at least for me it was mostly yes, but since it has no mechanical leverage or pressure gauge, there's a learning curve like drip coffee
one of the most important keys is to utilize your gripping power! (talking about gripping, damn thumbnail is a textbook 😎)
and don't press it gradually, go for full throttle!
can't wait for your vid and insights from it ;)
You're right! It's quite difficult to press consistently but when we tried pressing with an elbow we managed to maintain the pressure :)
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip I'm okay with a gripping method but I def gotta try the elbow method too! haven't thought about that
thx and nice vid!
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip I am using my sternum for a while its easier to maintain pressure imho.
Make a review of rok presso please, and flair
How does it compare to Fellow Prismo?
Fellow is strong coffee this is almost espresso... It's about 3-5 bars in reality from cafflano. It taste like smooth espresso
How about Prismo vs. Cafflano? 😅
Glad to know that Tomo joined you guys, I think he's a great addition to your team!
I haven't used either products but as far as i know the prismo can't really make real espresso, i think joepresso is better than prismo if you want espresso styled brew with aeropress. Kompresso on the other hand does not use pressurized filter, so the coffee puck provides the pressure.
Thanks Marianne! :) PS Haven't tested Prismo yet personally.
I think James hoffman has a video on this
1st comment here! Can't wait to watch this video.
Hope you will like it!
@@EuropeanCoffeeTrip I watched it and yes I like it so much.
It can make a good espresso, but you've got to find the best variable of grind size, water temp, roasting profile etc and yes it is challenging.
One tip, using directly to C40 grinder is so easy and practice, but this may scratch your filter basket. C40 has 3 tightening screw on its burr set that can scratch the filter basket.
Thanks. Going to get a Wacaco Picpresso instead. I would like as much metal construction as possible (hate plastic)
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I hope there was a metal version of this instead of plastic
Metal isn’t recommended for most of these. The metal will suck out all the heat from your brew making it sour
A Big "G" clamp also works
I think AeroPress with JOEPRESSO attachment is more versatile.
what I hate about it, the basket have poor quality, yes you can give it 9 bar of pressure but the basket cant take that, it will bend, and the edge side will be cracked open so the water will escape from the edge of the basket
They sell basket? You can say this to manufacturer maybe they upgrade
@@martinkulik9466 they sell it, actually its ok if you dont push it to much
@@SAMUEL-zc2mv I push it maximum I can with squeezing in hands. someone said you can generate easier 50kg than only pushing down....just made a coffee, but again I made minimal possible grind it was hard to squeeze and you can taste that it is not 9 bar espresso. maybe 4-5bar espresso, but it's ok with me. I sold my italian espresso machine, too much hassle and don't need perfect espresso, but again maybe if you suggest manufacturer to build stronger part maybe they will
Any female users getting crema with Kompresso? Many reviews are from men and I want to know if women can generate enough pressure.
Okay, I’m not really strong but by grinding really fine and using freshly roasted beans and pushing with my elbow and body weight (like shown in the video), I managed to get crema!
I use my whole body weight to push on pressing handle, and get beautiful crema (using 1zpresso Jx pro 17 click setting) … #I always slip when using my elbow
I already sold mine after failed many times
Ha ha ha --
I'm afraid that tiny plastic recipient at the bottom will explode with the weight put on it. :-)
It won’t. I’ve been using it 3 months now, on a daily basis. As long as u don’t use a hammer, cafflano says all plastic on a daily usage basis will last about one year
Unlike your worry, I have been reported zero case of breaking it and it's rather stable than any other cup you usually have. Unfortunately, I heard a lot of buldging the bottom shower screen of extraction chamber by asserting too much force on it.
It won’t. I’ve been using it almost 2 years now. It can hold up our body weight. I always use body weight when used it. But becareful if you put too much pressure, you can damage the metal filter of the basket. It will bend like mine.
It’s better to use the plastic cup than other cup. Trust me. I’ve tried other cups too.
So it's basically an Aeropress with a Joespresso attachment and by the looks of it neither can actually make espresso.
Better to watch the James Hoffman video where he nails the conclusion.
Not really, by design it's different. This device allows for way more pressure. With aeropress you will be at 1-2 bars, with cafflano you can reliably get 7 bars which is often recommended on manual espresso devices. So it actually does make espresso, it's just a bit worky and fuzzy. It's for people that can't live without espresso to carry around, imo. For home it's way better to have a flair for example.
Joepresso has a pressurized basket so it makes it easier to get it right, you don't have to dial in the grind so much and can use pre-ground coffee.
It's like smooth espresso. It's rich but more like concentrated coffee and you have to grind almost powder, it tastes good but the pressure is not there in reality....maybe 3-5 bars... But it might be better than coffee in some bar or restaurant ...but again you can taste the pressure is not the same as from espresso machine , but still tastes good. I sold italian coffee espresso machine e61 head because hassle with water heating filter time bullshit.. this is satisfactory. But you have to have good grinder
Honestly, wouldn't pay mor then 5 euros for this nonsense
Why do you think its nonsense?
My Kompresso doesn't make any crema, and I don't feel that resistance I can see on all of reviews. Any idea, what I'm doing wrong?