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  • Опубліковано 29 лип 2023
  • When you play China in Hearts of Iron IV it's pretty much a given that you don't touch the navy and accept Japan will dominate the seas. Today we change that...
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    Hearts of Iron IV is a grand strategy wargame developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. Released on June 6, 2016, it is the sequel to Hearts of Iron III and part of the Hearts of Iron series of grand strategy games focusing on World War II. The player may take control of any nation in the world in either 1936 or 1939 and lead them to victory or defeat against other countries.
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    -HOI4 soundtrack (PDX Interactive, PDX Development studios)
    -Song of Victory
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    #hoi4 #heartsofiron4 #china

КОМЕНТАРІ • 148

  • @abokadohoi4
    @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +28

    subscribe

    • @Septimus_ii
      @Septimus_ii 10 місяців тому +1

      Alright then

    • @kaisercheems2265
      @kaisercheems2265 10 місяців тому

      My comment has been deleted🤕. For the future. You can rebuild your start-game cruisers in carriers. How to spot enemy's fleet ? Radars ( don't use lvl2 radars, they are as same as lvl1 radar ) and aviation ( aviation should have camera to spot ) ( or abuse AI and put 1 destroyer and bait him while second fleet group has a order " Find enemy's fleet " or something like that ( sry, i forget name of the order )).
      If enemy has an order " don't join battles " or he's just sit at the base, use dive bombers. But basically if he has this order you can do naval invasion ( don't forget to put " always join the battle " ) cause enemy hasn't advantage ( due to order " don't join battles " ).

    • @sebastianpuentes8264
      @sebastianpuentes8264 10 місяців тому

      why would you choose to do tis to your self

    • @jorgeigualbonilla9998
      @jorgeigualbonilla9998 6 місяців тому +1

      This video deserves a social credit increase😂

    • @ultimatestuff7111
      @ultimatestuff7111 Місяць тому

      Why did you go women in the workforce as China? With extensive conscription 2% will give you like 7m manpower

  • @ellipse147
    @ellipse147 10 місяців тому +255

    The idea of Chiang Kai-shek at 12:00 on the first of January 1936 suddenly orders Chinese resources to be diverted to shipbuilding is so funny to me

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +78

      ‘It’s not delusional if it works’
      -Sun Tzu probably

    • @pwn3r1
      @pwn3r1 10 місяців тому +54

      "Admiral Sa Zhenbing, I order you to build be a giant navy. Thank you."

    • @shiyian
      @shiyian 6 місяців тому +7

      Basically what china is doing rn

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 2 місяці тому +2

      He kinda tried to build a navy they built a heavy cruiser and was successful in bascially scaring off a small Japanese taskforce, but then they had to scuttle them at the mouth of the river to prevent the Japanese navy entering the river ways and capture their ships.

    • @pendantairplane
      @pendantairplane Місяць тому +3

      Based alternate timeline where Chiang is the Admiralissimo of China

  • @MrCalls1
    @MrCalls1 10 місяців тому +150

    I’m sure this would’ve done wonders for the Japanese Army-Navy rivalry.
    The blame game would’ve been even more spectacular.

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +54

      Pretty sure at the end of my game the national spirit was still navy strengthened… yeah right strengthened 😂

  • @topjoker4207
    @topjoker4207 10 місяців тому +244

    What if china actually did this. The Japanese fleet would have been so confused 😂

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +33

      Huh

    • @DaToast_
      @DaToast_ 9 місяців тому +2

      🤫

    • @Aeiparthenos
      @Aeiparthenos 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@abokadohoi4I don't know if you will see this, but, if you get the continuous bonus (in the focus tree) "Naval Production" or something like that, if you toggle it on, off and on you will get 2 bonuses, I don't know if this has been fixed but it would be cool for you to try.

    • @atari947
      @atari947 5 місяців тому

      I mean the Qing navy was a real threat in the first Sino Japanese war. Well, up until it was destroyed.

    • @IHaveNonames123
      @IHaveNonames123 2 місяці тому +1

      @@abokadohoi4they might not expect china to build wooden ship?

  • @Szajgicism
    @Szajgicism 10 місяців тому +156

    You are one of the few Hoi4 youtubers that actually do fun and unique stuff in this game :).

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +45

      Next video: what if Bhutan had a navy
      Oh wait…

    • @justsomeguywholikesdavidbo1085
      @justsomeguywholikesdavidbo1085 10 місяців тому

      @@abokadohoi4💀

    • @enitivy
      @enitivy 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@abokadohoi4we need super heavy battleships for glorious tannu tuva

    • @TheTanveerGaming
      @TheTanveerGaming 10 місяців тому

      what 💀💀 @@abokadohoi4

    • @catfacecat.
      @catfacecat. 8 місяців тому +2

      FUN? ITS LITERALLY sPAIN BUT WORSE

  • @luishenrique320
    @luishenrique320 10 місяців тому +22

    The final act of disrespect of this run would be a ultra high tech chinese carrier.

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +11

      Lmao I should’ve done that and named it ‘Nanjing’

  • @taxman1805
    @taxman1805 10 місяців тому +29

    in this timeline its not generalissimo Chiang kai shek, its admiral president Chiang kai shek

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +11

      Finally someone who can challenge admiral Miklos Horthy 😂

  • @unitedfloridamapper7669
    @unitedfloridamapper7669 10 місяців тому +37

    Japanese battleships just watch as Chinese destroyers and cruisers run laps around them.

  • @Dudewithguns-ww7wc
    @Dudewithguns-ww7wc 10 місяців тому +27

    I know that the Navy game in Hoi4 is often looked upon but I love it so much because it’s so unbelievably satisfying

  • @BobBob-zu2dt
    @BobBob-zu2dt 10 місяців тому +31

    that Shanxi supply hub is actually kinda genius, i wonder if i could be replicated (for a benefit) elsewhere?

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +10

      Probably, just find two countries you wanna fight, and puppet one of them next to the border of the other if you need supply

    • @J7Handle
      @J7Handle 10 місяців тому

      @@abokadohoi4 As Japan, I puppeted Sinkiang in Kashgar to attack Afghanistan, Tibet in the west to fight the Raj, Yunnan in the west for the same reason, and then the other China's all puppeted in the north to fight the Comintern. I believe you can puppet regular China and Communist China anywhere, even in states they didn't own when you capitulated the faction, so long as they core the states you want to puppet each of them in. And of course, those two core all of China, so can puppet Shanxi in the same state you did in this video, Ma in, I think it's Ningxia? In the far northern desert of Ma, and puppet both China and Communist China in northern and western Sinkiang to go alone with the actual Sinkiang puppet in Kashgar.
      In addition, you can get useful free supply hubs by puppeting Indochina, Thailand, Burma, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Central Asian stans, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc. with this trick. Even South America and of course Africa.
      It mainly doesn't do much in Europe because there are so many supply hubs everywhere anyways (maybe puppeting Hungary in the east and a Banat puppet can help attack Romania or something, maybe a Tyrol puppet to hold the alps, a carpathoukraine puppet could be useful?). It also doesn't do much in North America since by the time you can set up any puppets in North America, there's no big enemies to fight there anymore.
      Using the trick in Africa and South America, while possible, begs the question of why? Why fight in those places?
      So yeah, the most useful places to use this trick would be Northern China to fight the Soviets, Southwestern China and Indochina to fight the Raj, along with Afghanistan in Herat and Iran and Azerbaijan in northwest Iran, also to help fight the Soviets.

  • @jarpekulo1925
    @jarpekulo1925 10 місяців тому +96

    The biggest challenge is to learn how navy works in hoi4

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +19

      This is way too true

    • @rebelfriend9006
      @rebelfriend9006 10 місяців тому +18

      Torpedo= good

    • @J7Handle
      @J7Handle 10 місяців тому +22

      Light cruisers dunk on destroyers, destroyers dunk on capital ships, capital ships dunk on light cruisers.
      Caveat, destroyers can't dunk on capital ships until the enemy screen (consisting of light cruisers and destroyers) is neutralized.
      Naval bombers, including those from carriers, also dunk on other capital ships.

    • @rarescevei8268
      @rarescevei8268 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@J7HandleThank you. Anyways what do all the other aspects of navy do?

    • @J7Handle
      @J7Handle 8 місяців тому

      @@rarescevei8268 Heavy cruisers are like cheap battleships. They do well against light cruisers, get torpedoed by destroyers if they don't have a good screen, but heavy cruisers can't stand up to battleships.
      Battlecruisers are more like battleships but they are more vulnerable in general because of less armor.
      Submarines are good at torpedoing capital ships and convoys, but they can't destroy anything else, so they get killed by destroyers really easily.
      Convoy raiding is generally a task for submarines unless you have total naval dominance, in which case you can use heavy cruisers, battlecruisers, or battleships.
      Convoy escort is a task for destroyers, mainly.
      Strike force is a task for big fleets containing lots of destroyers, light cruisers, and capital ships.
      Naval invasion support is for bombarding enemy shores to weaken their army forces, so only capital ships (but not carriers) are good for that, though light cruisers are ok in this role.

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 10 місяців тому +39

    I always turn the whole chinese coast into dockyards when i play china. When you do so, china can become a naval superpower. I had over 1000 ships as qing, most of them built by me and it included plenty of carriers, battleships and crusiers
    In my recent communist china game, i took down the allies in 1954-5 using an army of amtracs. Though i did need the japanese fleet to compliment my own.

    • @no24385
      @no24385 10 місяців тому +12

      bro how you still running hoi4 on 1954 and your pc hadn't exploded?

    • @OnionIlan
      @OnionIlan 10 місяців тому +25

      @@no24385he borrowed one of NASA’s supercomputers

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@whot98 the qing game lasted until 1962. And both were on laptops lol

    • @OnionIlan
      @OnionIlan 10 місяців тому +4

      @@mappingshaman5280 It’s a miracle that thing is still able to function

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +8

      Call an ambulance call an ambulance, but not for me, for your computer 😂

  • @mathieuguenier3658
    @mathieuguenier3658 10 місяців тому +19

    this video has been a better naval tutorial about the navy of this game than navy tutorial made by so called "pro player" XD
    thanks my minecraft bro !

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +10

      I had so many failed runs following those naval tutorials, apparently capital ships just suck and you only need cruisers and destroyers lol

    • @mathieuguenier3658
      @mathieuguenier3658 10 місяців тому +3

      @@abokadohoi4 yea no you showed everything so now i'm pretty much aware of what's happening in a naval battle (seriously before i refused to engage with the navy and just spammed out naval bomber XD)

  • @Heavenport
    @Heavenport 10 місяців тому +4

    This is the best Hoi4 channel at the moment and im not even exaggarating, every video I watched was good, and that is a talent not many people, have keep up the good content! Its great man!

  • @hydronpowers9014
    @hydronpowers9014 10 місяців тому +26

    _After Japan became occupied, the high command asked the Chinese how they managed to beat them in the navy battles. The Chinese replied "While you beat your meat over lewd drawings, we beat ours over ships"_

    • @animeXcaso
      @animeXcaso 8 місяців тому +5

      Azur Lane: why not both? 😂

  • @MeinungMann
    @MeinungMann 10 місяців тому +9

    i have almost 3000 hours in this game and I have very little idea of what's going on with navy. i can only spam sumbarines, so videos like this are like a breath of fresh air because I never see anything like that happening

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому

      Lol glad you enjoyed. I didn’t know anything about the navy either until this video and I forced myself to learn it. Was an absolute nightmare

    • @MeinungMann
      @MeinungMann 10 місяців тому

      @@abokadohoi4 yeah bro. But sometimes idea of destroying naval power in the sea as maritime "underdog" makes me very exciting. Too bad I'm too lazy to learn anything

    • @i_hate_stupid_username_rules
      @i_hate_stupid_username_rules 26 днів тому

      @@MeinungMann i did that once as tibet, yes, tibet, it was very fun removing america's carrier fleet with battleships

  • @Manu-ke8od
    @Manu-ke8od 10 місяців тому +4

    bro just invented guerilla warfare on water bro just hit and run tactics xd

  • @an_intruder
    @an_intruder 10 місяців тому +1

    enjoyed the video man

  • @kapperboi6452
    @kapperboi6452 10 місяців тому +1

    You are really entertaining, with some natural talent, Some background music would improve this by loads. Really good vid.

  • @omegawonton8749
    @omegawonton8749 7 місяців тому +3

    Imagine being an American admiral preparing your fleet to fight the Imperial Japanese Navy, only to find out its already been sunk by Chinese screens

  • @combrade-t
    @combrade-t 10 місяців тому +5

    Impressive. Surprisingly effective too tbh, like if you could decently replicate this without doing naval production then it's actually a pretty good strategy, which I hate. Naval China Meta time.
    Now doing it as Mao would be even more impressive lmao.

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому

      Honestly surprised me too lol

  • @Septimus_ii
    @Septimus_ii 10 місяців тому +1

    That light attack into torpedo strategy was incredibly effective!

  • @omerfarukgonul1233
    @omerfarukgonul1233 10 місяців тому +7

    very good video my friend

  • @hendersongamer8923
    @hendersongamer8923 10 місяців тому

    love the vid, try to shw stats a bit more tho but imma go and look through ur vids mabye evn sub lol

  • @UnchainedGaruda
    @UnchainedGaruda 10 місяців тому +4

    Love this!

  • @UpNorthDere
    @UpNorthDere 5 місяців тому

    love the edits when your invading japan XD

  • @colonelreb2688
    @colonelreb2688 10 місяців тому +5

    Plan Z Germany, no trash ships, can do case Anton , must capitulate Britain after USSR.
    Have an air force and a balanced army as well, (this is entirely possible I’ve done it many times)

    • @Septimus_ii
      @Septimus_ii 10 місяців тому

      Is leaving Britain until after the USSR just to add to the challenge? It seems natural to take the UK and maybe US early with that strat

  • @veteran_dino
    @veteran_dino 4 місяці тому

    this is a beautiful video

  • @riko_z9962
    @riko_z9962 10 місяців тому +2

    The things Chang Kai Shek can do when he actually demolished the communists

  • @musicismypassion9246
    @musicismypassion9246 10 місяців тому +5

    Sub from Lebanon

  • @Laza10426
    @Laza10426 10 місяців тому +9

    Very creative idea and a fun challenge. I wonder in what year you had a navy large enough that you could just invade and capitulate Japan and if the strategy of building a navy would actually be better than pushing through Manchuria?

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +3

      Pushing on land and sneaking a naval invasion is still probably better, this is just funny

    • @Laza10426
      @Laza10426 10 місяців тому +3

      @@abokadohoi4 Yeah, I can imagine how funny would be to see Japanese admirals explaining who actually sunk their whole navy. Reminds me of the movie "Downfall", the bunker scene

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +3

      @@Laza10426 ‘Yamamoto couldn’t carry out his attack. His carriers were sunk by the Chinese navy’
      Tojo: 🤬🤬🤬

    • @RandooGaming
      @RandooGaming 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Laza10426Mein emperor... Yamato could not amass enough men to counter attack the Chinese navy...
      Hirohito: THAT WAS AN ORDER! YAMATOS COUNTER ATTACK WAS AN ORDER

  • @Torantes
    @Torantes 8 місяців тому +1

    incredible

  • @1Baris_
    @1Baris_ 10 місяців тому

    A new Nice hoi Channel 😂

  • @aomsinzana
    @aomsinzana 10 місяців тому +1

    Real man do Tuva Navy

  • @TheRedBaronBird
    @TheRedBaronBird 10 місяців тому

    Naval China is sooo cursed... i love it

  • @Teal182
    @Teal182 3 місяці тому

    You couldve used that version where you could use the ultimate shipbuilding bonus glitch

  • @valerio5571
    @valerio5571 10 місяців тому +1

    Your content is amazing but please just get a better mic and some throat spray but otherwise amazing content, ill def. Subscribe

  • @user-jf1eo9wx7r
    @user-jf1eo9wx7r 10 місяців тому

    I really need a navy tutorial

  • @royalwolf7115
    @royalwolf7115 10 місяців тому

    I'm getting some ISP vibes from this.

  • @3bi9a.ae.
    @3bi9a.ae. 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video (i have 700 hour and i dont know how navy works)

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +1

      I had no idea how it worked until I came up with this idea and I had to go learn it (was not nice) lol

  • @democraticpeoplesrepublico3494
    @democraticpeoplesrepublico3494 10 місяців тому

    This is actually fire lol

  • @umutluanimator3873
    @umutluanimator3873 8 місяців тому

    do brazil navy gameplay is fun af its basicly amerika vs japan if japan was brazil

  • @AmYisraelChai10
    @AmYisraelChai10 10 місяців тому +1

    Do 2 widths only as Japan or Germany

  • @abod_yt5742
    @abod_yt5742 9 місяців тому +1

    my ear hurts

  • @YungIsyan
    @YungIsyan 3 місяці тому

    is he the guy which understands navy?

  • @thenewme_Pal
    @thenewme_Pal 8 місяців тому

    Does this increase or decrease one's social credits?

  • @Lubnut
    @Lubnut 5 місяців тому

    9:46 lmao

  • @FiveMissiles
    @FiveMissiles 10 місяців тому

    what about a naval bomber strat as china

  • @samiiiyusufff
    @samiiiyusufff 10 місяців тому

    i dare you to survive as 1939 luxembourg

  • @mrididnt1631
    @mrididnt1631 10 місяців тому

    Believe ot or not I actually once sank the entire Japanese navy with some old submarine as China. 1 submarine took out the entire Japanese fleet

  • @diegofernandezdeeribe7190
    @diegofernandezdeeribe7190 10 місяців тому

    BASED

  • @Harrison147789
    @Harrison147789 7 місяців тому

    Oh my GOD!
    I never think we can use CL and DD to destroy JP navy.

  • @speedracer1004
    @speedracer1004 7 місяців тому

    You see this video automatically proves that navy in this game makes absolutely no sense at at all.

  • @Dornana
    @Dornana 10 місяців тому

    how... just how

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому

      Chinese naval might ☠️

  • @Thegoldenaerobar2
    @Thegoldenaerobar2 8 місяців тому

    How get light battery l2 by July third

  • @user-sy6bx9lc3l
    @user-sy6bx9lc3l 10 місяців тому +2

    WTF did I just witness

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому

      The National Revolutionary Army I mean navy

  • @student9621
    @student9621 10 місяців тому

    Wait for China tank build

  • @zxihauntedixz_boy
    @zxihauntedixz_boy 10 місяців тому

    Yo I'm the owner of a relatively big hoi4 server. If you don't already have one or are in one I would be happy to send you an invite

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212 10 місяців тому

    Lore of I built a NAVY as CHINA (challenge) | HOI4 momentum 100

  • @lukalolleonardo4797
    @lukalolleonardo4797 10 місяців тому

    I love the navy in hoi4 so I made a full fleet as comunist China in 1942 and then went on and blew up the americans

  • @royalwolf7115
    @royalwolf7115 10 місяців тому +1

    Since when does the navy report to the army? 13:04

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому

      Since the military was also the government ig

    • @royalwolf7115
      @royalwolf7115 10 місяців тому +1

      @@abokadohoi4 The military IS the government.
      edit: for a bit of context, the Japanese government was pretty much ruled by the navy and the army up until they got nuked. Then came the big man MacArthur who became the emperor of Japan for a few years. Hence, why you have the options for prioritising which branch of the military as an option when you play as Japan.

  • @whatsup8583
    @whatsup8583 10 місяців тому +1

    Chinese cursed gameplay I've ever seen 💀💀💀

  • @ovca410
    @ovca410 10 місяців тому

    I stole a navy as china

  • @PolinaDrugova
    @PolinaDrugova 10 місяців тому

    Hi! How can we contact you to discuss cooperation?

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому

      What is exactly do you mean

    • @PolinaDrugova
      @PolinaDrugova 10 місяців тому

      We'd like to order advertising from you)

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому

      I cannot leave any details at the moment would you like to give contact information

  • @tenanaciouz
    @tenanaciouz 10 місяців тому +1

    actual good hoi4 content thank gods. Would you consider palying chna in R56? They have a huge tree and can become a digusting monster of a nation

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому +1

      I will play China again some time in the future, not sure whether it will be RT56 or 8 years war of resistance yet though

    • @skyninjaslayer337
      @skyninjaslayer337 10 місяців тому

      @@abokadohoi48 years seems better for this

  • @OnionIlan
    @OnionIlan 10 місяців тому

    Im still never doing navy

    • @abokadohoi4
      @abokadohoi4  10 місяців тому

      I learnt the navy just for this idea lol

    • @OnionIlan
      @OnionIlan 10 місяців тому

      @@abokadohoi4 hope my subscription helps you with the suffering

  • @arandomwatcher8174
    @arandomwatcher8174 10 місяців тому +2

    A bit weird that you don't use light medium batteries even if they are better ( and more expensive)

    • @fancytea8748
      @fancytea8748 10 місяців тому

      prob cuz they're more expensive

  • @kristiyan.b
    @kristiyan.b 10 місяців тому

    3:30

  • @sword_god8438
    @sword_god8438 10 місяців тому +1

    Now, try to build a proper navy and not just destroyer spam. (AKA a combination of all the ship types).

    • @skyninjaslayer337
      @skyninjaslayer337 10 місяців тому

      💪 dew it

    • @democraticpeoplesrepublico3494
      @democraticpeoplesrepublico3494 10 місяців тому +3

      Its possible but that would take years and everything the country has - building capitals as a minor / weak nation is kinda pointless when you can do this strat

  • @kristiyan.b
    @kristiyan.b 10 місяців тому

    8:42

  • @hunterbg6651
    @hunterbg6651 7 місяців тому

    Should have navaly invaded Taiwan smh.

  • @Toasthero99
    @Toasthero99 5 місяців тому +1

    Why do you bleep the swears? Its a little distracting when you swear all the time