The notion of using 3 magnets with different strengths, and starting with the weakest one is brilliant. I really appreciate learning about all the different possible components of black sand since I thought it was just magnetite. Here in Maine the red garnets are the bane of my existence and more prevalent than the black sands.
Me and my mom watched you for the first time and I just have to say, Thank you ! This video is so informative. We are now going to binge watch the rest of your videos !
Just realized a very important aspect that I didn’t realize or understand. Using your fingers to aid in separating black sand from the gold as well as the different strengths of the magnets and how to use them. That is amazing. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Absolutely best prospecting videos on the interweb. The XL ORX arrived today, will be putting it to work in the Bradshaw mountains this weekend with much of the learned advice I've received here.....thanks Chris...!
I'm new but as a thought if you put the magnet into a ziploc or similar the sands will stick through the bag then when you want to clean it just pull the magnet out of the bag to release the sand.
I am going metal detecting tomorrow in the mountains in northeast Colorado. I talked with a guy at the Forest Service today and he said it was OK to go and detect in the forest, just watch out for any claims (that should be posted). New to your channel but have already learned by watching a couple of your videos! Thanks
Hi ralph ,please do share information about gold detecting and surveying ,also the reputable brands of detecting machines.You really enlightening our prospecting expertise. regards
Ha ha i am confident in you too! Just remember the gold weights the same as the black sand..."Hydraulic Equivalent" and that is why it is so hard and takes time to get it all cleaned out.
Great video as always. I use a different technique that works well for me. I dry my material and then sift it through 20,30,50 mesh typically and that helps get things under a bit better control before I get the magnet out. I wonder what a variable electro magnet plate over the pan would do as you slowly cranked it up? Another experiment on my list!
I learned years and years ago to keep your hands/fingers away from your material as you pan, for the simple reason that our fingers/hands are oily, so when you touch your material/gold the oil from your hands can and well make some of your gold float right out of your pan. I use mercury, with all safety and then run it through a retort, and recover the mercury coming out of the retort through a rubber tube that goes under water. so I can recover all the mercury I used in making the amalgam.
It's easy to clean up the magnets if you put them in a baggie - the magnet comes out of the baggie clean and the sand drops off. Great idea, using the weaker magnets first - my big rare earth magnet pulls everything up all at once.
This is the second or third time watching this video sometimes things don't stick in my brain. I look forward to trying this method soon as I can. Im in north east California. So water has not receded. But tomorrow I'm going to run some pans in a spot I found close to home
Max, I am sorry you are having difficulty with this, but more than 13 thousand folks have listened to this video and no one but you thinks there is no sound. I think some of the sound is in mono and you may be listening on the wrong speaker. Give it a try.
Another great video thanks. I just wondered if you could invent some kind of a sluice in reverse to separate some of the black sand. Adjustable magnets underneath a sluice to hold back the sand and then vary the flow of water to push the gold to the end and collect it?
Oh well, another of my great ideas hits the sand. I just wonder if the well known electrostatic attraction of gold could be utilised in combination with magnetism. Say the dry gold/sand mix was gently blown into the air between magnetic and electrostaticly charged surfaces?
What about placing the magnet in a closed zip lock lunch bag? Squeeze the air out. That way you reduce the magnetic pull and the big plus would be that you can clear the magnet easily.
I find just picking them up with tweezers is the easiest. Separate them down with your fingers as much as possible, then spread it on a really wide pan, then just pluck them up.
@@ChrisRalph I'd do it with magnets and some other stuff like you mention but very rarely, only once I'd have like a whole tub of gold dust-laden black sand. I just do this as hobby, and the nearby river I'd do this had dried up since a few months ago so I don't really go out looking for gold anymore, but before it did usually there would be milimeter large pieces that I could just pick out.
Blonde sand is super easy, black sand more difficult the finer it is. Now I get white sands under that and it won't move in the pan and the gold is mixed in, very difficult. Natural in small amounts I get huge amounts from tailings of old timer rock crushers. 👍👍
Chris I just learned something new! I don't own a crusher. I can take my quartz and heat it up, cool it down quickly in cold water, and crush it up easily into a fine powder to be panned to get the gold out. Now I know other people know this trick.. I however did not have a clue it existed. Why is it important and amazing to me? If the power grid ever goes down or when it does?! I can have a way without electricity or gasoline to crush ore to pan out. This was an epiphany to me and I hope others who read this comment will remember it. After the criminals in Washington take out the paper USD the only other thing is gold for those who won't go digital currency.
@@ChrisRalph I don't have money to buy a crusher. Any other suggestions I'd love to hear about it. 👍 I also do not live like others do. I don't have electricity. I do have a generator. I live similar to the 1800's. I just saw heating the quartz one time and cooling it rapidly in water once made it easier to crush and then I can grind it up in a mortar and pestle. I'm all ears and want to find a way to get this gold out of this rock. It tests around 2oz per ton. I could quickly buy equipment if I can ever get that gold out. I'm at wits end if the heating method is a bad thing to do.
Looking forward to the beach gold video too. I've found all sorts of stuff in terminal moraine deposits in NY, but mostly most black sand. Thinking about running it through a centrifuge, not sure if it'll work but I'll find out LOL
@@ChrisRalph sometimes I shake the Black sand in a large ball Mason jar with soapy water, and a powerful magnet stuck to the metal lid of the jar. That way I can just unscrew the lid after shaking it up, take the lid off and over something, take the magnet off the lid and the stuff just falls right off 🙂
Last night after watching this video I gave myself two things to do today. #1 buy Fists full of gold. Got it on amazon. I will get it monday. I paid $29.95 new, but I can not believe some are selling used ones for more than double. #2 come here and watch your video #2, but I can't find it. Can you give a link? I live in Cali and two miles from the beach. Not a lot of black sand here but about 30 miles north, in Oregon, there is one beach I have named zebra beach. So much black sand, I could fill a gallon bucket in 5 minutes with my very large neo magnet. There is one spot where I do not use a magnet, I can just scoop it up with my hands or a pan.
Sometimes loads of black sand will cover beaches in northern CA after heavy storms. These three videos are all related content: ua-cam.com/video/dZKRTgdZOmA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/oitFuN5TuwQ/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/G3fV0hN8V00/v-deo.html
Chris, two points: First, almost all of my gold is gold dust and I am unable to separate it from the very fine black sand dust. I can see it with a lens, so I have been simply collecting it. And, yes, I have used a variety of surface tension "soaps" and pan "tapping". A magnet doesn't selectively separate the two as this fine black sand dust is poorly magnetic. Second, relatively recent (geologically speaking) volcanic activity brought up the gold where I am in Nevada and the larger particles of black sand that I have to deal with was not mentioned in your video (iron sulfide), which, I think, must be trapping more very fine gold dust. Open air roasting in a cast iron skillet seems to release some of that gold dust but I wonder how much am I missing. Either the iron sulfide is trapping gold dust or I am letting some gold dust get sucked up when I snuffer up these larger pieces of black sand. Any thoughts? I enjoy your videos.
Because I cannot see what you see and see what you've done its really hard for me to know - pyrite - iron sulfide - is not black sand - they are not the same thing. I don't know what magnets you tried, etc. so I am far more in the dark than you think. So I have no guess. I do talk about pyrite in a video I made just on Pyrite - see: ua-cam.com/video/Sjp4aOcqBn4/v-deo.html
Wow I see this black sand on my beaches of the Susitna river here in Alaska. I have picked a few small flakes out bent them to be sure they were gold and not mica. This process could get me out of my car 🚗 there is tons of gold flake in that black sand
There are thousands of copies at the distributor, but sometimes things get messed up between Amazon and the distributor. It will get ironed out. It does this once or twice a year for a few days.
Hi Chris, one of your videos, you mention that black sand has value other than gold. I dont recall if you mentioned where to sell the back sand that has the gold seperated. A few channels I watch say to keep all the black sand. So where do we sell the black sand?
Not really worth doing unless you have tons of it. A few pounds will not pay for the shipping. Its not super valuable stuff. Its iron ore, and may have traces of other metals.
Chris,, First would it be accurate thinking that the product that the 3rd and most powerful magnet removes be that place to harvest Rh ? And from the 1st stage of the final pan, which is kicking out lighter than gold black sand. Secondly, is it in the final pan when you physically push apart the gold from the remaining black sand that we find platinum group?metals (except Rh). . Last Question, Regarding the iron filings from the first pass. Do you melt those to separate the gold and the ferrous material? Or is Thank you in advance for your consideration.
@@ChrisRalph True but I'Ve tested black sand from one of the Sacramento sand and gravel plants and it assayed $12.50/ton in pgm metals. There are new mthods to extrct the platinum but you'd needs tons of black sand to make it worthwhile
I thought you could use a paper towel between the magnet to capture it then double check it before discarding to see if any gold is trapped with the black sands . What about a spiral water wheel . And how effective are they compared to your 3 magnets technique .
If you have chromite or zircon sand could these be added to the graded material and put in a liquefaction bed to speed up the separation? The magnetite is heavier so you would still need to separate the gold from that.
I have just been looking into panning as a hobby and have watched your videos for some time. I am talking about creating vibrations in a saturated mix of placer material and heavy sand. You could use vibrations alone or inject water from below. The purpose being to cause the solids to act like a liquid to facilitate stratification. Since gold comprises the heaviest particles they should sink to the bottom(unless they are small maybe). It seems that it could be made into a continuous processes. I have zircon sand, garnet sand and tungsten granules for testing purposes.
There is a device called a jig that does pretty much what you are saying with a liquefied bed. Google gold jigs and take a good look a the designs. Companies have been making them for over 100 years and they have the design pretty well set. They use a pulse of water coming upward, which is necessary to keep the bed liquid and not have it just settle and pack.
I assume by the term "mustard gold" you mean fine flour gold. That will be dealt with in part 2 with the beach sand as it is gold of a size like flour dust.
Chris, What am I missing ? Not just your video's but all of them advocate jet dry or soap in the water to stop the Gold from floating. That don't make any sense, I would much rather suck up the flour Gold off the surface where I can see it than let it fall into all that sand. The only panning I've done so far is sampling and not caring about amounts yet. But when I do go to mine placer, I wish all of it would float. How come I'm the only one that thinks that ? What did I miss ?
If it all floated with perfect reliability, yep that would be the way to go. But only some floats, and a lot floats for a while then sinks - a lot depends on the size and shape of the gold particle. Scientists have tried floating gold to recover it, but it just does not work reliably. Flotation is actually a common method to collect sulfide minerals which float better than gold. So great idea, its been tested and does not work very well for gold. But its used all the time for collecting sulfides.
Yes, I have seen his and a number of ones similar to his. The problem is that even gold screened to the same size won't necessarily settle at the same rate. You only get great recovery if all your gold is the same shape. Flat flakes settle at a different rate from rounded spheres - even when the same mesh size.
No, its not smarter - there is a reason why no one does it your way, because it wont work. You have to concentrate the gold down to the point where its mostly gold. If you smelt raw black sand the gold will not come together onto a single piece, it will be stuck between the particles of solid black sand as a mess.
Unless you have a 20l bucket full of black sand, just pan the black sands down. If you only have 6 table spoons of black sand, you need the panning experience. A pan and a snuffer bottle and that would have been clean in 5min.
@@ChrisRalph nice assumption, but no. I don't need to play with magnets, I have a ball mill, classifiers and a shaker table! But that's for buckets not pans of sand.
float it, I just processed 2 and a half ounceses of gold dust, the ending will astound you, inadverdently I was trying tor emove the black sand from the gold dust, not working good, very slow process, whenI started floating my gold off, I thought this is cool, hours later when i got to the bottem, my material started looking redish, that was the color the camera was giving me, the platinium metals would not pike up nor would the black sand, 100 persent recovery of gold, no garabge, what I was left with in the pan, platinium and largrer pieces of gold very impressive
Chris, I like your videos but I have to say the fact there is only audio in the left ear or speaker (in all of your non webcam videos) makes it very difficult to listen to. I almost dropped your videos within the first few seconds because of this but I am glad I stuck it out. I use headphones for 99% of all my audio and video use. For your videos I have to physically move my left speaker into the center of my setup and take off my headphones in order to not feel like you are speaking at me from the side or yelling in my ear. Your presentation would improve significantly with either some audio editing, or microphone cleanout or something... maybe a new camera, heck even a cell phone has way better audio these days. Anyway, thanks for the tips.
Until very recently I got paid nothing from Google for these videos, and I have been hesitant to invest a wad of cash for the privilege of making videos for free. I just got a new camera, and the technical quality will improve over time. However the value of these videos is not the pretty sound track, but the verbal content.
I agree with Chris. I noticed the audio thing right away but got over it quick because there's so much info. Looking forward to the beach sand video, as I'm planning a trip to that beach this fall.
@@ChrisRalph The cost of a camera isn't really a "wad of cash" in 2019. I just bought a great camera g pro knockoff for 50 cad. That's less than one gram of gold! They give out cell phones with amazing cameras for free and the monthly cost is very modest and part of the upkeep of having a device to make calls. You could also make a Patreon page in a few minutes and have your subscribers pay for whatever you want and probably also fund prospecting adventures you wouldn't be able to do otherwise that would benefit your channel in the long term. Saying the value of your work is in the verbal content and not the presentation is like playing really obnoxious sounding music and then being like: "It's all in the lyrics, man." That may very well be the case, but you will find a much larger audience and more success if you take a slightly more balanced approach. And yes, I agree it is a privilege to speak to your audience from your platform and spread the ideas you think are important while selling your books. Even from a strictly financial perspective, I think if you put in a few bucks you will probably make more sales. I hope this gives you some ideas.
I dont waste the time. When I get a gallon jug full of cons I pour all of it in my crucible with some crushed glass, fire it to 2750 degrees in my blast furnace and dump it into a conical slag mold. When it's cool the next day I break the big piece of precious metal off the tip and the rest goes into my sidewalk/patio as bricks.
I will give a little secrete away, when processing black sand to clean your gold, have two pans at hand, 1 with the material your are working, the other for retriavial, put very little water in the pan, wet the material, slowly tip your pan to let water flow over the contents and back off, tipping the pan into the second one, using a snuffer bottle put a little water back into the first pan tipping it back an forth to cover the materiel, keep the area of your pan wet at all times, it took me about 6 hours to process 2 1'2 ounces, my bad, Your beach sands may look goldish, but when I got finished and could not float any more fines, I was left with platinium in my pan, I should have sold at gold prices, but , they would have keep the platinium as overburden I would have lost
@@ChrisRalph I found it quite unique in the process of a small gold pan with my material in it and a larger one toopoor the float off one little pad at a time it was time consuming the very effective I recovered almost all pure gold dust without any platinum or Black sands make sure you keep your pan wet if you're gold that you're floating hits a dry spot it will automatically stick to it it was interesting to see the outcome I will use that system again I do a lot of beach mining southern Oregon
It is recorded in mono and you are listening to the other channel in stereo. SO you are listening to the channel with nothing when the sound is on the other channel.
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in Philippines we are using magnet since 1980 but we wrapped it cellophane so that we can clean the magnet easy
very good.
Brilliant!!!!
san ka sa pinas boss
Hahaha.... Magnet attracts iron not gold, whom you are making fool
@@MotivationShorts-4u I think you never work as a gold miner
The notion of using 3 magnets with different strengths, and starting with the weakest one is brilliant. I really appreciate learning about all the different possible components of black sand since I thought it was just magnetite. Here in Maine the red garnets are the bane of my existence and more prevalent than the black sands.
What makes up the heavy sand concentrates does vary from place to place....Glad you enjoyed the video.
Here in Canada I am struggling with Diamonds. Microscopic heavy greasy blobs of indestructible-ness. DOH!
I watched this last night. Got me some gold today. Tried this worked well!
Excellent! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Me and my mom watched you for the first time and I just have to say, Thank you ! This video is so informative. We are now going to binge watch the rest of your videos !
Glad it was helpful! Feel free to comment as I do respond to them.
Just realized a very important aspect that I didn’t realize or understand. Using your fingers to aid in separating black sand from the gold as well as the different strengths of the magnets and how to use them. That is amazing. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
No problem, glad it was helpful .
Absolutely best prospecting videos on the interweb.
The XL ORX arrived today, will be putting it to work in the Bradshaw mountains this weekend with much of the learned advice I've received here.....thanks Chris...!
Glad you enjoyed the video.
Ralph, you're an excellent teacher! Thank you, buddy.
Thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
#1 on youtube!
Everyone else dose not take the time to explain in mass details
Only pro i am following
Thanks man
Hey thanks for the kind words.
I'm new but as a thought if you put the magnet into a ziploc or similar the sands will stick through the bag then when you want to clean it just pull the magnet out of the bag to release the sand.
I usually use a plastic bag but didn't for this video. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Yes I have a big land full of gold
I am going metal detecting tomorrow in the mountains in northeast Colorado. I talked with a guy at the Forest Service today and he said it was OK to go and detect in the forest, just watch out for any claims (that should be posted). New to your channel but have already learned by watching a couple of your videos! Thanks
Glad you enjoyed the video.
Hi ralph ,please do share information about gold detecting and surveying ,also the reputable brands of detecting machines.You really enlightening our prospecting expertise.
regards
Please look at the other videos on my channel. There is lots of information about gold detecting.
Most informative from the land down under. 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Well Chris, i wish you luck with the blue bowl. Make sure to pan "your way" when the done with the cons. Looking forward to the next video!
There will definitely be some trial and error in working with your black sands, but I am confident I can make it come out one way or another.
Ha ha i am confident in you too! Just remember the gold weights the same as the black sand..."Hydraulic Equivalent" and that is why it is so hard and takes time to get it all cleaned out.
Really useful video. You answered so many questions I had in the past thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I have learned soooo much from your videos. Thank you keep up the good work
glad it was helpful.
Great video as always. I use a different technique that works well for me. I dry my material and then sift it through 20,30,50 mesh typically and that helps get things under a bit better control before I get the magnet out. I wonder what a variable electro magnet plate over the pan would do as you slowly cranked it up? Another experiment on my list!
Thanks for sharing and that's an interesting idea!
Such a helpful and informative video .keep making more informative videos about gold.Thanks a lot
Thank you, I will
I learned years and years ago to keep your hands/fingers away from your material as you pan, for the simple reason that our fingers/hands are oily, so when you touch your material/gold the oil from your hands can and well make some of your gold float right out of your pan.
I use mercury, with all safety and then run it through a retort, and recover the mercury coming out of the retort through a rubber tube that goes under water. so I can recover all the mercury I used in making the amalgam.
OK.
It's easy to clean up the magnets if you put them in a baggie - the magnet comes out of the baggie clean and the sand drops off. Great idea, using the weaker magnets first - my big rare earth magnet pulls everything up all at once.
The plastic bag thing is a good idea. I do that sometimes.
I use windex to reduce surface tension. Works great and is easy to use. Just a tiny amount is all that's needed.
OK.
Finding Black Sand is a Great Gold Indicator. Separating Black Sand is a Major Pain!
Yep. Very true.
Thank you for taking the time to shiw this.
Glad it was helpful!
This is the greatest tutorial ever
Thanks. Glad you liked the video.
This is the second or third time watching this video sometimes things don't stick in my brain. I look forward to trying this method soon as I can. Im in north east California. So water has not receded. But tomorrow I'm going to run some pans in a spot I found close to home
glad it was helpful! Best of luck to you.
I think you should check your settings! I watch you tube all t time and you are the only one that has no sound!
Max, I am sorry you are having difficulty with this, but more than 13 thousand folks have listened to this video and no one but you thinks there is no sound. I think some of the sound is in mono and you may be listening on the wrong speaker. Give it a try.
Yup, half video has no sound, mostly the sitting outside with the black tub.
Very interesting would of like to seen a close up of your work maybe next time
Good idea. I will do that. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Another great video thanks.
I just wondered if you could invent some kind of a sluice in reverse to separate some of the black sand. Adjustable magnets underneath a sluice to hold back the sand and then vary the flow of water to push the gold to the end and collect it?
Its been done, but the gold gets caught in the black sand. Not that the gold is magnetic but the shape of the magnetized sand catches the gold too.
Oh well, another of my great ideas hits the sand.
I just wonder if the well known electrostatic attraction of gold could be utilised in combination with magnetism.
Say the dry gold/sand mix was gently blown into the air between magnetic and electrostaticly charged surfaces?
Im new to this but been doing my homework. Going to order a sluice soon. I'll experiment with the magnet installed in the sluice. Cool! 😉
What about placing the magnet in a closed zip lock lunch bag? Squeeze the air out. That way you reduce the magnetic pull and the big plus would be that you can clear the magnet easily.
that would work.
I find just picking them up with tweezers is the easiest. Separate them down with your fingers as much as possible, then spread it on a really wide pan, then just pluck them up.
What about the stuff the size of dust? just wash that gold back into the stream?
@@ChrisRalph I'd do it with magnets and some other stuff like you mention but very rarely, only once I'd have like a whole tub of gold dust-laden black sand. I just do this as hobby, and the nearby river I'd do this had dried up since a few months ago so I don't really go out looking for gold anymore, but before it did usually there would be milimeter large pieces that I could just pick out.
Thank you. I keep running into that problem and you helped me Big time.
Glad to help
I learn a lot your videos sir good job 👍 thanks
Glad you enjoyed the video.
You answered all my questions. Thank you!!!!
Happy to help!
Nice job on the video and cleaning up those cons
Glad you enjoyed the video.
just out of curiosity, what are the Cons You speak of?
much love sir ♥️ please sir What are the chemicals needed to process the gold finally
We have a language problem. What is the "gold finally"
Blonde sand is super easy, black sand more difficult the finer it is. Now I get white sands under that and it won't move in the pan and the gold is mixed in, very difficult. Natural in small amounts I get huge amounts from tailings of old timer rock crushers. 👍👍
There are some light colored minerals that are heavy.
Chris I just learned something new! I don't own a crusher. I can take my quartz and heat it up, cool it down quickly in cold water, and crush it up easily into a fine powder to be panned to get the gold out.
Now I know other people know this trick.. I however did not have a clue it existed.
Why is it important and amazing to me? If the power grid ever goes down or when it does?! I can have a way without electricity or gasoline to crush ore to pan out.
This was an epiphany to me and I hope others who read this comment will remember it.
After the criminals in Washington take out the paper USD the only other thing is gold for those who won't go digital currency.
Repeatedly heating and cooling the ore will not do a good job of crushing the rock. You will be disappointed in the results.
@@ChrisRalph I don't have money to buy a crusher. Any other suggestions I'd love to hear about it. 👍 I also do not live like others do. I don't have electricity. I do have a generator. I live similar to the 1800's. I just saw heating the quartz one time and cooling it rapidly in water once made it easier to crush and then I can grind it up in a mortar and pestle. I'm all ears and want to find a way to get this gold out of this rock. It tests around 2oz per ton. I could quickly buy equipment if I can ever get that gold out. I'm at wits end if the heating method is a bad thing to do.
Looking forward to the beach gold video too. I've found all sorts of stuff in terminal moraine deposits in NY, but mostly most black sand. Thinking about running it through a centrifuge, not sure if it'll work but I'll find out LOL
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@@ChrisRalph sometimes I shake the Black sand in a large ball Mason jar with soapy water, and a powerful magnet stuck to the metal lid of the jar. That way I can just unscrew the lid after shaking it up, take the lid off and over something, take the magnet off the lid and the stuff just falls right off 🙂
@@SunTzuLao Fantastic idea!
Last night after watching this video I gave myself two things to do today.
#1 buy Fists full of gold. Got it on amazon. I will get it monday. I paid $29.95 new, but I can not believe some are selling used ones for more than double.
#2 come here and watch your video #2, but I can't find it. Can you give a link? I live in Cali and two miles from the beach. Not a lot of black sand here but about 30 miles north, in Oregon, there is one beach I have named zebra beach. So much black sand, I could fill a gallon bucket in 5 minutes with my very large neo magnet. There is one spot where I do not use a magnet, I can just scoop it up with my hands or a pan.
Sometimes loads of black sand will cover beaches in northern CA after heavy storms. These three videos are all related content:
ua-cam.com/video/dZKRTgdZOmA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/oitFuN5TuwQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/G3fV0hN8V00/v-deo.html
You are a great teacher
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Chris, two points: First, almost all of my gold is gold dust and I am unable to separate it from the very fine black sand dust. I can see it with a lens, so I have been simply collecting it. And, yes, I have used a variety of surface tension "soaps" and pan "tapping". A magnet doesn't selectively separate the two as this fine black sand dust is poorly magnetic. Second, relatively recent (geologically speaking) volcanic activity brought up the gold where I am in Nevada and the larger particles of black sand that I have to deal with was not mentioned in your video (iron sulfide), which, I think, must be trapping more very fine gold dust. Open air roasting in a cast iron skillet seems to release some of that gold dust but I wonder how much am I missing. Either the iron sulfide is trapping gold dust or I am letting some gold dust get sucked up when I snuffer up these larger pieces of black sand. Any thoughts? I enjoy your videos.
Because I cannot see what you see and see what you've done its really hard for me to know - pyrite - iron sulfide - is not black sand - they are not the same thing. I don't know what magnets you tried, etc. so I am far more in the dark than you think. So I have no guess. I do talk about pyrite in a video I made just on Pyrite - see: ua-cam.com/video/Sjp4aOcqBn4/v-deo.html
Thanks! Another tool in my toolbox.
You're welcome! I'm glad to hear it was helpful.
Thank you sir very Helpful video.
Glad to help, check out my other videos too, I am sure you will find them just as valuable. and I have more to come in the future.
Thanks a lot ,prof.by ur sharing knowledges thats really precious than gold
It's my pleasure!
After you have extracted the gold,can you sell it in that powder form or does it need to be made into gold bars/buttons first?
It can be sold either way, but I prefer to melt it down as it's just easier to handle in bar form.
@@ChrisRalph I see. Thank you sir for the great content 👍🏼
Wow I see this black sand on my beaches of the Susitna river here in Alaska. I have picked a few small flakes out bent them to be sure they were gold and not mica. This process could get me out of my car 🚗 there is tons of gold flake in that black sand
OK. Best of luck to you.
Question : How can we find deposits from glaciers ?
Where are you located (what state?)
Nice video, Ralph!
Thanks!
When I go to purchase your book online, it says "sold out" but Im sure Ill get it eventually.
There are thousands of copies at the distributor, but sometimes things get messed up between Amazon and the distributor. It will get ironed out. It does this once or twice a year for a few days.
Hey Chris, I recieved the book today. Lots of reading to go thru for me. Thanks again for it and signing it as well. HH and more Gold Luck to come
Glad you are enjoying it.
Hi Chris, one of your videos, you mention that black sand has value other than gold. I dont recall if you mentioned where to sell the back sand that has the gold seperated. A few channels I watch say to keep all the black sand. So where do we sell the black sand?
Not really worth doing unless you have tons of it. A few pounds will not pay for the shipping. Its not super valuable stuff. Its iron ore, and may have traces of other metals.
Put a bag over the magnet so when you pull it away you have a clean magnet
OK.
I have a black sand separator sold by Sluicefox. How would this best be used on the technique you are talking about?
The guys at Sluicefox who make the product would be a lot more familiar with their own product......
@@ChrisRalph okay thank you for the information.
Chris,, First would it be accurate thinking that the product that the 3rd and most powerful magnet removes be that place to harvest Rh ? And from the 1st stage of the final pan, which is kicking out lighter than gold black sand.
Secondly, is it in the final pan when you physically push apart the gold from the remaining black sand that we find platinum group?metals (except Rh). .
Last Question, Regarding the iron filings from the first pass. Do you melt those to separate the gold and the ferrous material? Or is
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
No, that will not work, most black sand has no RH or only tiny, tiny traces. You will spend $100 to get $1 worth of PGM.
@@ChrisRalph True but I'Ve tested black sand from one of the Sacramento sand and gravel plants and it assayed $12.50/ton in pgm metals. There are new mthods to extrct the platinum but you'd needs tons of black sand to make it worthwhile
I thought you could use a paper towel between the magnet to capture it then double check it before discarding to see if any gold is trapped with the black sands . What about a spiral water wheel . And how effective are they compared to your 3 magnets technique .
paper tears when it gets wet, but you can use a plastic bag for the same purpose.
fantastic video,,,
looking forward to using this interesting information in the near future,,
like next week!
thanks!
👍
Glad you enjoyed the video. Part two will be soon, but I do have a life beyond UA-cam.
Would it be easier to run the magnets over dry material?
The water helps to minimize the amount of free gold collected by the magnet.
I like your videos. Keep it up!
If you have chromite or zircon sand could these be added to the graded material and put in a liquefaction bed to speed up the separation? The magnetite is heavier so you would still need to separate the gold from that.
I am taking it that you mean the liquefaction bed in a jig. Jigs use steel shot and that is the best to use.
I have just been looking into panning as a hobby and have watched your videos for some time. I am talking about creating vibrations in a saturated mix of placer material and heavy sand. You could use vibrations alone or inject water from below. The purpose being to cause the solids to act like a liquid to facilitate stratification. Since gold comprises the heaviest particles they should sink to the bottom(unless they are small maybe). It seems that it could be made into a continuous processes. I have zircon sand, garnet sand and tungsten granules for testing purposes.
There is a device called a jig that does pretty much what you are saying with a liquefied bed. Google gold jigs and take a good look a the designs. Companies have been making them for over 100 years and they have the design pretty well set. They use a pulse of water coming upward, which is necessary to keep the bed liquid and not have it just settle and pack.
Yes that is the idea. Thank you
I look forward to the beach sand. I have a green finishing pan like that if I can just find it...
Gotta say I really like mine! Glad you enjoyed the video.
thx Chris for the info n demo me thinks its appreciated by may. one question how does mustard gold go?
I assume by the term "mustard gold" you mean fine flour gold. That will be dealt with in part 2 with the beach sand as it is gold of a size like flour dust.
Chris, What am I missing ? Not just your video's but all of them advocate jet dry or soap in the water to stop the Gold from floating. That don't make any sense, I would much rather suck up the flour Gold off the surface where I can see it than let it fall into all that sand. The only panning I've done so far is sampling and not caring about amounts yet. But when I do go to mine placer, I wish all of it would float. How come I'm the only one that thinks that ? What did I miss ?
If it all floated with perfect reliability, yep that would be the way to go. But only some floats, and a lot floats for a while then sinks - a lot depends on the size and shape of the gold particle. Scientists have tried floating gold to recover it, but it just does not work reliably. Flotation is actually a common method to collect sulfide minerals which float better than gold. So great idea, its been tested and does not work very well for gold. But its used all the time for collecting sulfides.
I used to run a magnet through the school sandbox when I was a kid, and I would always get black sand.
black sand is iron minerals and iron is common, gold is very rare.
What would happen if I put magnets in a Sluice?
The black sand clogs up on the magnets.
You are talking about black sand and I want to question the soft black conclusion that resembles shiny iron. The remaining in the dish is very few
We have a language problem.
Love your video, thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful and you enjoyed the video.
Very informative and interesting..
Glad it was helpful!
I boght the gold drop
from john richmond have you seen the machine he invented ?
Yes, I have seen his and a number of ones similar to his. The problem is that even gold screened to the same size won't necessarily settle at the same rate. You only get great recovery if all your gold is the same shape. Flat flakes settle at a different rate from rounded spheres - even when the same mesh size.
All my black sands are tin oxide not magnetic lol! But a good video
That's unusual. Can you do much with screening? Glad you enjoyed the video.
Could static electricity be somehow used to do the seperation?
Its been tried and does not work very well.
Do you know the chemical process
Which process are you talking about? I did a video on cyanide - it can be viewed at: ua-cam.com/video/EegTQuCEQlk/v-deo.html
very informative thanks for the info!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
So are you actually getting paid for this gold?
yes, when I send it to the refiner I use.
Nice video bud!
What? Are you asking me to use English slang, gov'ner?
@@ChrisRalph This is IRS did you file taxes on you last years gold nugget blacks sands extraction finds!
I think ill buy your book.
Its available on Amazon.
Have you ever tried using a centrifuge to concentrate gold in black sand?
Part 2 of this will be using the blue bowl centrifuge to catch really fine sized gold. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I was thinking of more like a medical centrifuge. Put the black sand in a heavy fluid like oil so it's suspended.
because of the density of the black sand, you find it almost impossible to get a fluid that dense. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Is it not smarter to have someone to smelt the black sand concentrates to determine the exact amount of precious metals.
No, its not smarter - there is a reason why no one does it your way, because it wont work. You have to concentrate the gold down to the point where its mostly gold. If you smelt raw black sand the gold will not come together onto a single piece, it will be stuck between the particles of solid black sand as a mess.
Unless you have a 20l bucket full of black sand, just pan the black sands down.
If you only have 6 table spoons of black sand, you need the panning experience.
A pan and a snuffer bottle and that would have been clean in 5min.
So says the man who has never panned super fine gold before and just dumps the fines on the ground.
@@ChrisRalph nice assumption, but no.
I don't need to play with magnets, I have a ball mill, classifiers and a shaker table!
But that's for buckets not pans of sand.
float it, I just processed 2 and a half ounceses of gold dust, the ending will astound you, inadverdently I was trying tor emove the black sand from the gold dust, not working good, very slow process, whenI started floating my gold off, I thought this is cool, hours later when i got to the bottem, my material started looking redish, that was the color the camera was giving me, the platinium metals would not pike up nor would the black sand, 100 persent recovery of gold, no garabge, what I was left with in the pan, platinium and largrer pieces of gold very impressive
Tiny gold particles will float, but also easily sink. Hard to recover the gold that way.
Chris, I like your videos but I have to say the fact there is only audio in the left ear or speaker (in all of your non webcam videos) makes it very difficult to listen to. I almost dropped your videos within the first few seconds because of this but I am glad I stuck it out. I use headphones for 99% of all my audio and video use. For your videos I have to physically move my left speaker into the center of my setup and take off my headphones in order to not feel like you are speaking at me from the side or yelling in my ear. Your presentation would improve significantly with either some audio editing, or microphone cleanout or something... maybe a new camera, heck even a cell phone has way better audio these days. Anyway, thanks for the tips.
Until very recently I got paid nothing from Google for these videos, and I have been hesitant to invest a wad of cash for the privilege of making videos for free. I just got a new camera, and the technical quality will improve over time. However the value of these videos is not the pretty sound track, but the verbal content.
I agree with Chris. I noticed the audio thing right away but got over it quick because there's so much info. Looking forward to the beach sand video, as I'm planning a trip to that beach this fall.
@@ChrisRalph The cost of a camera isn't really a "wad of cash" in 2019. I just bought a great camera g pro knockoff for 50 cad. That's less than one gram of gold! They give out cell phones with amazing cameras for free and the monthly cost is very modest and part of the upkeep of having a device to make calls. You could also make a Patreon page in a few minutes and have your subscribers pay for whatever you want and probably also fund prospecting adventures you wouldn't be able to do otherwise that would benefit your channel in the long term. Saying the value of your work is in the verbal content and not the presentation is like playing really obnoxious sounding music and then being like: "It's all in the lyrics, man." That may very well be the case, but you will find a much larger audience and more success if you take a slightly more balanced approach. And yes, I agree it is a privilege to speak to your audience from your platform and spread the ideas you think are important while selling your books. Even from a strictly financial perspective, I think if you put in a few bucks you will probably make more sales. I hope this gives you some ideas.
thank you sir...can i ask help
Sorry, no, I get many, many requests.
I dont waste the time. When I get a gallon jug full of cons I pour all of it in my crucible with some crushed glass, fire it to 2750 degrees in my blast furnace and dump it into a conical slag mold. When it's cool the next day I break the big piece of precious metal off the tip and the rest goes into my sidewalk/patio as bricks.
Sure you do...
@@ChrisRalph somehow I don't think you believe her ;)
Thank you 😊
You are welcome.
I don't have a black sand issue I have fine gold and dirt issue
You probably dont lack for dirt, just gold and gold in dirt.
Why don’t you just smelt the last bit, instead of continuing to mess with it?
the black sand will not smelt.
Magnet?
That is what I show in the video.
Very nice..enjoyable...👍 thx
Glad you enjoyed the video.
An excellent demonstration of fine gold recovery. I like nuggets better :).
Which weighs more - a pound of fine gold or a pound of nuggets?
@@ChrisRalph neither but the fine gold often has a greater purity.
I thougt I was a freak cleaning black sand like thatT
Worth cleaning up black sand if you get some nice gold.
I will give a little secrete away, when processing black sand to clean your gold, have two pans at hand, 1 with the material your are working, the other for retriavial, put very little water in the pan, wet the material, slowly tip your pan to let water flow over the contents and back off, tipping the pan into the second one, using a snuffer bottle put a little water back into the first pan tipping it back an forth to cover the materiel, keep the area of your pan wet at all times, it took me about 6 hours to process 2 1'2 ounces, my bad, Your beach sands may look goldish, but when I got finished and could not float any more fines, I was left with platinium in my pan, I should have sold at gold prices, but , they would have keep the platinium as overburden I would have lost
Tiny gold particles will float, but also easily sink. Hard to recover the gold that way.
@@ChrisRalph I found it quite unique in the process of a small gold pan with my material in it and a larger one toopoor the float off one little pad at a time it was time consuming the very effective I recovered almost all pure gold dust without any platinum or Black sands make sure you keep your pan wet if you're gold that you're floating hits a dry spot it will automatically stick to it it was interesting to see the outcome I will use that system again I do a lot of beach mining southern Oregon
I can't hear the outdoor portion of your videos.....all of the several I've watched. ????
It is recorded in mono and you are listening to the other channel in stereo. SO you are listening to the channel with nothing when the sound is on the other channel.
Rob Roy,I'll drink to that,lol.:-) :-) :-) :-)
Rob Roy....
صديقي العزيز
هل يوجد نسخة من كتابك باللغة العربية
Sorry, but I do not speak Arabic.
your personality worths more than Gold .
I am trying to be more dynamic in the videos and less deadpan. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I need this plate
Yes, best of luck to you.
Can I get u books in Africa please
I am sorry my friend that I do not have any dealer in Africa, and if Amazon will not deliver, I cannot get one to you.
put your magnet in a ziplock bag, super easy to clean off
right.
Garnet can be magnetic.
Yes, garnet can be weakly magnetic, but normally not strongly magnetic enough that you can pick it up. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Awesome
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
@22:15 I’m thinking..Tap it, just tap it a few times,,, give it a little tap,tap,taparoo...
Glad you enjoyed the video.
where is the sound??
check your system settings. Thousands have listened to this with sound.
I got piles of it...
Congratulations.