It's called climbing the ranks, you don't get to dictate money when your not the main man, so beat them all, become the man and then you own the game, same in any job progression, can't have it all straight away.
@@adrianswanigan8332It’s a business now bro floyd and Oscar set the blueprint these fighters are putting there bodies on the line evertime they step into the ring why shouldn’t they have say so over what they want to be paid ‼️💯
Bc mfs smarter than them old broke fighters. He lose against shaker he not making that money again. Mfs wanna at least make some money first. How I see it
@@typowers101bro fought the boogeyman of 135 michale Ali and stopped him and I’m a fan of Haney tank etc but frank should get just as much out of this fight as pitbull did win lose or draw his stock will go up after the fight
You do know the full story right? When Haney and Stevenson were in talks about making a fight happen, Stevenson disagreed with the percentage he was going to receive. Frank Martin chimed in and said if Shakur believed he can win then money shouldn’t be an issue and take the fight anyway. Frank Martin’s own team agreed to fight Shakur except for Martin and he said the money wasn’t enough. So why would it be enough for Shakur and not for Martin? If Martin loses to Shakur he can still get paid fighting Tank and get paid. But if he fights Tank and loses, he’s not going to get another shot at a 135 as he will have no choice but to leave PBC and settle for way less no matter what. So it’s not about what he felt he deserved to get paid. He chimed in on what he felt another fighter should do.
@battle619 Do you know the difference in money though? Shakur has never sold out a gate, PPV or anything. 25% of nothing is nothing! Haney was offering 25% of tens of millions. If you're gonna offer perspective, give the whole picture. That's what Frank was talking about.
Yal just be talking to talk 💀 they could of offered him a dollar more then the most he ever made in his career he said it wasn't enough he's fighting a bigger name for more money now sounds like a fighter knowing his worth you sound like a company man @@randolphjohnson4958
Gotta give it to Frank and his team. Passing on this fight and staying patient landed him the if not one of the biggest ppv fights of his career. Plus the purse is definitely bigger than a fight with Shakur.
Shakur been on some wild stuff, but people really gonna cut up Shakur for not taking the Haney money cause it was lower than he wanted, but gonna praise Frank for doing the same? Lol, anybody will fight Tank win or lose because he's the biggest draw in the division, their biggest paydays will come from that even if the cut is heavily Tank favored.
So now $1.2 million is “stepping stone” money, even though his own team were satisfied with it as was he and it didn’t go to purse bid. This duck azz mofo course had a world title and several hundred thousand going into this fight. But he knew he couldn’t beat Shakur so his duck azz chickened out.
Let's say he took Stevenson fight won then he could have asked and got more to get knocked out by tank, especially since the winner get the higher percentage.
Respect? Beating Shakur would make me respect the Tank fight more, it just looks like if he’s going to lose he rather get the biggest payday he can. That’s more like playing it safe than a move I should respect
He’s being a hypocrite with that though. Frank has previously said “ What I was asking for wasn’t outrageous. For what he was getting paid, what I asked for was reasonable. The fight could’ve happened, it’s all about the money.”
Like how he said he be able to focus on the fight instead of the money. He got get that squared away and out his mind to fight. I still got my boy TANK!💯💯💯
Stop it.. we don’t know what will happen until they fight.. he’s willing to fight Tank and Tank will stop Shakur.. I don’t think a 🦆 fights Tank in his very next fight lol
This duck had no choice though. Tank ran out of opposition so Haymon pulled him out. Martin’s handlers agreed to the fight and Haymon pulled him off last second knowing that if he loses to Shakur the buyrate for any Tank fight vs anyone will flop under 100k. So why not just keep it in house, keep all the money for Haymon, and stack Tank’s undercard up with hopes it can give Tank good buys. Tank is practically done at 135 if there’s no cross promotion involved
He is three weight class champion, frank martin best achievement is " i train with error Spence" 😂😂😂 u can NEVER say neither tank Davis nor this nobody right here achieved more than Shakur, so stfu.
Mind you he never said Shakur was lying he just said he wanted more in other words make it worth it to catch that L. Talking bout make me leave the fight feeling good. The win plus yo biggest payday what’s not to feel good about 🤦🏾♂️
@@dashundaniel7936 Shakur is experiencing the same problem as the dagestanis in UFC, ppl now how good they're and know they've got very slim chances of beating them, so u have to pay them career high for them to take that risk, he is not powerful but he's extremely skilled.
Sounds like a real straight out guy.. hes correct about the money 💰 absolute 💯 he knows his worth.. he just fought Tank last night and was winning every round until he was KO,d in Rd8 he will cause any 135lbers trouble
Fuck the money? Lmao, everything is about the money. So you would have taken a shakur fight on a lesser platform for 300k or wait 6 months to fight a huge draw in tank on a larger platform for 3 million dollars? These men have to feed their families. They ain't doing this shit just to entertain y'all lol
I’m 54 years old and have made a lot of money. I live a life that most would dream of. But the older I get I’m starting to regret that I didn’t become a professional fighter. Before we called it MMA I had already studied boxing, wrestling and variety of other martial arts. I came a very large family that was athletic and so was the kids in the neighborhood. It’s funny how my daughters are now boxing and one is considering turning pro.
$250k more but claims Shakur didn’t offer 25%? Shakur literally offered him 25%. Does he not understand how much tank will make? He is getting much less than 25% now lol duck Edit: To casuals in the comments… Shakur was gonna make 4 mil, 25% of that is 1 mil…. Now Frank is making 1.25 mil.. when Gervonta gets paid much more than 4 mil + the PPV buys. Do the math. He took months and months before getting the Tank fighting. Could’ve fought them back to back literally.
On the smallest stage in a corner against Shakur, versus being on the biggest stage with the most eyes on him at the highest level, marketing branding against tank, make it make sense buddy the Shakoor fight didn’t make sense at all
He’s too early in his career to take a L from a no name like shakur, there’s no benefits to fighting shakur other than having a good fighter on ur resume
@@bazil738he didn’t sign a contract he agreed and then wouldn’t sign the contract that’s different Shakur agreed to fight devin than turned around and flaked and went to go try and claim a mandatory 😂why not put up or shut up for undisputed and cash your own ticket why for the same reason Frank Martin said why take a Shakur who recent fought on F*ckin Thursday homie on cable team and had fans leave the arena and sleeping 😴 why take the fight with the less stylistic opponent who had a smaller name if you ask me Frank is winning bc win/lose/ or draw he a be a better fighter after having tank on his resume
This excuse doesn’t work 😂 before this he said he would’ve just taken the fight shakur had with Devin for the belt and the opportunity questioning Shakur’s decision to negotiate with Devin
Bro he fighting tank He wasn't making no excuse Plus this is a better and bigger stage for him fighting Shakur would have done nothing for his career but gave him a win
Man him fighting Tank can literally change his whole life, if he does good, he will become a star just like pitbull cruz, mario barrios, rolly had his little shine, ryan garcia, fighting Tank is a pay check and a game changer if you do good enough
After the tank fight i can say, im a frank martin fan. Loss or not. I fw bro and the energy he bring. Bro not overconfident but definitely knows he can bang with the best.
RESPECT! Sometimes we dislike a person we don’t even know because we like another person….we don’t even know! Shih is weird like that! Get what you feel you deserve💯💪🏽
What he is saying high risk low reward again Shakur. Where he could lose then won't have the bigger money fight with tank. So with tank it's high risk, high reward 🤷
These guys go in the ring to risk their lives for our entertainment. I definitely understand where he is coming from and making sure he was comfortable with the financial situation.
Frank spot on, as fans we don’t appreciate the business side of things but if I can possibly get knocked out or I’m fighting you better pay me what I’m asking
@@mellemel2247When Haney offered 25% to Shakur, Haney was the undisputed lightweight champ. That's also the same percentage Kambosos offered Haney when they fought. The real question is why didn't Shakur take that 25% and whoop Haney to become the new undisputed lightweight champ? He could have been the boss but his ego got in the way.
His right shakur is a big name He should get at least 300 to 500 thousand.They probably offered him 100k.Shakur gona run too. So he has to look for the fight. I totally understand him.
More people acting like they are behind the scenes cutting the check. learn to STFU You sound so stupid internet promoters making minimum wage talking about boxers making million dollars fight sounds so dumb You wouldn't even know how to sign a check like that
@@robertkramel"Only 200 more" lmaoo he's fighting on ppv vs tank c'mon nah yal can't be this uneducated you think he's only gonna get 1.2 fighting tank ? 💀
Not at all he’s talking about branding you are a business and 25% made sense for Shakur because he would’ve been on the biggest stage of his career also against Devon Haney total different sure the Shakoor fight would’ve been on a small stage for small money that’s why Frank turned it down
Uh In case you haven’t notice 25% against Haney with all 4 belts wrapped up including having Haney in your resume why not if you lose to Haney you could still fight top contenders like tank you aren’t being very smart and thinking outside the box ,understand the boxing business .
@@Imthatguy8797what he’s talking about why fighting Stevenson was a dumb idea ! Not the money you want , dangerous and in front of nobody because Stevenson can’t draw flies to shit
@@MattyOkayhow come can’t no shakur fan seem to grasp this simple fact lol😂 if Frank ducked Shakur than Shakur definitely ducked Haney for undisputed ain’t no fighting for a belt all the marbles or shut up and based on both fighters last 2 fights fate spared that man 😂 Shakur wouldn’t of been able to do devin How he did Edwin.
Frank Martin is another one who is just honest. It’s not a duck. I don’t think any of these guys are scared of anyone. It’s just a lot of posturing and trying to get the right deals. Can’t blame them. Boxers have more control of their careers than in the past especially if they’re around the right people. So can’t blame him for that. Everyone should be about their business.
The excuses are insane. He's full of shit omg!!! Certain fighters today be so wack!!! God boxing is nothing like it once was. You wasn't allowed to be scared. You had to fight.
The opportunity to defeat a signature opponent for the WBC belt holds significant value imo. Perhaps Frank is money first , then the other valuable perks after which is okay.
Im a huge frank martin fan and thats real if shakur wanna troll we can say he ducked Devin if it wasn’t about the money then that fight would have been happened
Shakur is my #2 fighter in the game after Bud! But I didn't see Frank as a duck after I heard it was about the money! He's right, just like Shakur wouldn't fight Devin for 25% I couldn't see Frank taking that fight for only 1mill. After he pays his people and his taxes what would he walk away with! Now weather he beats Tank or not, he can now get a bigger payday against Shakur than what they offered him the first time. Smart move by Frank!
Frank and Ryan are smart. They know it makes more sence to take your first loss from tank and get "probably" the biggest bag they'll ever get. Rather than fight shakur and take the risk in losing for a little bag. It's called doing smart business !!!!
For those who claim he is not avoiding Shakur, I understand your perspective. I don't believe that boxers are afraid of each other, but rather they make calculated decisions based on risks. Please consider Frank's statement that "the money wasn't right, but the money was there." This statement contradicts the idea that he wasn't avoiding the fight. According to boxing insiders, Frank would have earned more money than ever before, even more than in the Tank fight, by facing Shakur. Comparing the opponents Frank is facing (Tank Davis and Shakur), a fight with Shakur might have been easier and more lucrative. In conclusion, Frank chose to fight a perceived tougher opponent for less money. Before claiming he is not avoiding Shakur, consider this. I'm not saying he is ducking, but it's clear he had a reason for not wanting to fight Shakur. If that reason was money it’s an odd reason he would’ve made more fighting a lesser fighter.
Shakur can’t sell fights and that’s evident after his last statement when he said Fu(k the fans, does he realize without the fans there’s no big pay day. Professional athletes need to show more appreciation to the fans in general. He said it meaning don’t slug it out just for the fans stick and move and make the fight boring but again this is why he don’t sell. He is extremely talented but this is why tank gets so much love because you know your going to see a knockout not somebody run around all night
*He ain’t ducking Shakira Stevenson at all. That’s smart business decision. He fought Tank & got the biggest paycheck of his life. So why settle for way less money with Shakur the most boring fighter in the world?? He can’t sell sh!t*
Frank martin not fighting shakur was the best thing to ever happen to him cause he fought tank and gained experience in that fight, frank was showcasing levels even though he lost and its all respect. Tank showed respect to him in the post interview. I believe him vs shakur wouldve been limited cause fighters dont learn anything from fighting shakur. And people want shakur to fight tank, im neither fans of those guys but tank will HURT that kid. Tank isnt going in there to play tag. I dont even think shakur will beat ryan garcia and thats my man. People better wake up. Frank now knows how it feels to lose so hes gonna push himself even harder from here on out. Tank did that.
He reminds me of Bud in a way I hope Derrick James is the right trainer for this kid 😮not sure he is are in fight adjustments 😮 the kid needs a right team that suit his skill set
He smart, nowadays where boxers are afraid to lose their 0 it's important to make sure you're money right. Now he's fighting tank and the money def right🙌🏼
Nobody buying a Shakur (boring) fight. The Tank fight is much better because the money is there and the publicity. He wins in many ways by fighting Tank.
And what really don’t sit well with me is that Haney sent shakur a bs contract for a fight and shakur turned it down and said it wasn’t enough and was mad people said he was ducking Haney but then shakur turned around and did the same thing to Frank Martin 😂
I realized this annoyed me last night when they said tank ducked lomachenko. Tank wasn’t the tank he is at the time . Why take a fight that wouldn’t garner as much money and attention as it can now back then just to satisfy fans. Boxing is a business at the end of the day. It’s not ducking if the bread don’t make sense.
I believe he's the next champ. He's more then a boxer. If you ever played multiple sports, you should know he's an athlete. Boxing is just what he's doing now. Them other guys never trained or compete outside of boxing. Football, wrestling, ect are sports that competing becomes the play ground. He'sore them capable to beat the shit out of all the guys in his weight class. Believe me. Homie is an athlete. He looks at them like lunch time . Gervonta is strong as a person who grow up boxing in his weight class. Frank is strong because all the other sports he played then adapted to boxing. Gervonta haven't met this type of competitor
I feel him, cuz you gotta realize fighters only get paid 1-4 times a year and he not getting crazy money and he still gotta pay taxes, coaches, managers, promoters, bills, and have money to have until he fight again
You can’t say why he worried about what you’re making when previously Martin is quoted as saying “ What I was asking for wasn’t outrageous. For what he was getting paid, what I asked for was reasonable. The fight could’ve happened, it’s all about the money. “
That's how fighters these days NEVER end up getting less major bouts. Take that man's belts and THEN you can set or indicate the money you want. Now the perception you've created is that you're not too confident in your ability to win. THIS IS THE HURT BUSINESS, Bro.
Same thing Haney did to Shakur, Shakur didn't accept the offer, can't blame Frank. The money must be right. Frank and Shakur are worthy opponents, even if they don't have the biggest following, pay these brothas
Alao people need to remember that he's signed with pbc and shakur is signed with top rank. Frank vs tank is a in-house fight, im sure a way better contract, and he is fighting a way bigger name
The fact that he’s fighting Tank lets me know HE WAS NOT ducking Shakur 😂
Perfectly said 👍🏾👍🏾
Agreed. Frank was going over to Top Rank and ESPN but I think he could have beat Shakur.
@bazil738 frank a bum, would love every round and I hate shakur
He wasn't duckint shakur, he was ducking those unholy awful p4p shakur buys 😂😂
Facts, concur☝️💯
Fighters may not be satisfied with a loss to Tank on their record, but you never hear them complain about the money.
Bigger pay day
but yet he only making 200,000 fighting tank. was offered a M to fight shakur
@@cedoniaradecke8655lies lol
@@cedoniaradecke8655😂😂😂 alright buddy
@@cedoniaradecke8655sped
That's the realest statement ever he has to be happy with the situation.
It's called climbing the ranks, you don't get to dictate money when your not the main man, so beat them all, become the man and then you own the game, same in any job progression, can't have it all straight away.
@@adanis0197 I agree that's the old school way these new fighters have turned the sport into something else
@@adrianswanigan8332It’s a business now bro floyd and Oscar set the blueprint these fighters are putting there bodies on the line evertime they step into the ring why shouldn’t they have say so over what they want to be paid ‼️💯
@@adrianswanigan8332floyd*
Bc mfs smarter than them old broke fighters. He lose against shaker he not making that money again. Mfs wanna at least make some money first. How I see it
Dude seem cool af I hope his career plays out well…
Its not
@@Chris-29how? He done beat some elite ass fighters tf
@@typowers101 like who
@@typowers101who elite he beat ?
@@typowers101bro fought the boogeyman of 135 michale Ali and stopped him and I’m a fan of Haney tank etc but frank should get just as much out of this fight as pitbull did win lose or draw his stock will go up after the fight
I like what he said. Why they worried about my money for?! Facts!
That part 💯 🥊 💯
You do know the full story right? When Haney and Stevenson were in talks about making a fight happen, Stevenson disagreed with the percentage he was going to receive. Frank Martin chimed in and said if Shakur believed he can win then money shouldn’t be an issue and take the fight anyway. Frank Martin’s own team agreed to fight Shakur except for Martin and he said the money wasn’t enough. So why would it be enough for Shakur and not for Martin? If Martin loses to Shakur he can still get paid fighting Tank and get paid. But if he fights Tank and loses, he’s not going to get another shot at a 135 as he will have no choice but to leave PBC and settle for way less no matter what. So it’s not about what he felt he deserved to get paid. He chimed in on what he felt another fighter should do.
Because he was a hypocrite. He told Shakur to not worry about the money vs Haney. But then did the same thing when offered the Shakur fight
Real shi
@battle619 Do you know the difference in money though? Shakur has never sold out a gate, PPV or anything. 25% of nothing is nothing! Haney was offering 25% of tens of millions. If you're gonna offer perspective, give the whole picture. That's what Frank was talking about.
Nobody ducking its all about the bag clear and simple
Canelo is ducking Benavitez
They offered that man more than all his previous fights and he agreed and then backed out.
Yal just be talking to talk 💀 they could of offered him a dollar more then the most he ever made in his career he said it wasn't enough he's fighting a bigger name for more money now sounds like a fighter knowing his worth you sound like a company man @@randolphjohnson4958
@@randolphjohnson4958he didn’t feel it was worth for the risk. He did at first and then changed his mind.
@@Djuanefacts 💯 boxing is 50% ducking 50% buisness coming from me a fans perspective
People want to control the boxer but don’t want to get punched
There it is 🎯
Facts
Gotta give it to Frank and his team. Passing on this fight and staying patient landed him the if not one of the biggest ppv fights of his career. Plus the purse is definitely bigger than a fight with Shakur.
It’s sad that he even had to go through that to begin with. Smart move bro!
But I feel like if he fought fought and beat Shakur it would have made his fight with Davis even bigger.
Gotta respect it. Shakur has been doing a lot of troll sht lately.
You confusing trolling with being a clown
@@Lockedandgrowindamn, you might be right lol
Trolling has a expiration date
Shakur been on some wild stuff, but people really gonna cut up Shakur for not taking the Haney money cause it was lower than he wanted, but gonna praise Frank for doing the same? Lol, anybody will fight Tank win or lose because he's the biggest draw in the division, their biggest paydays will come from that even if the cut is heavily Tank favored.
Well spoken
He got a good point honestly
Yeah, I feel the brotha. Frank is too talented to settle for stepping stone money. He knows his value and will not compromise.
So now $1.2 million is “stepping stone” money, even though his own team were satisfied with it as was he and it didn’t go to purse bid. This duck azz mofo course had a world title and several hundred thousand going into this fight. But he knew he couldn’t beat Shakur so his duck azz chickened out.
Stepping stones?!? The most he’s ever made was $250k for a fight and was offered a mill by top rank to fight shakur for the wbc
Let's say he took Stevenson fight won then he could have asked and got more to get knocked out by tank, especially since the winner get the higher percentage.
You seem clueless as to what he was saying.
He'll never get another payday now
Gotta show respect to anybody willing to fight Tank straight up. But thats the way it should be the best fighting the best!
Respect? Beating Shakur would make me respect the Tank fight more, it just looks like if he’s going to lose he rather get the biggest payday he can. That’s more like playing it safe than a move I should respect
Because of the money goofy he don’t give af winning or losing he just wants the bag
Why he's a man like these other fighters he don't know who frank is how u know Frank don't beat em just assume oh it's tank I'm scared lol
He went there scared to death but with money on his mind
Basically what he’s saying is high risk low reward.
I like frank! He’s a cool dude!! Wish him nothing but the best
Frank makes complete sense. I agree. I wish you well with tank
I'm not a fan of Frank but I agree with him. Why are people worried about his pockets.
well, he's training with ryan garcia
He’s being a hypocrite with that though. Frank has previously said “ What I was asking for wasn’t outrageous. For what he was getting paid, what I asked for was reasonable. The fight could’ve happened, it’s all about the money.”
Like how he said he be able to focus on the fight instead of the money. He got get that squared away and out his mind to fight. I still got my boy TANK!💯💯💯
Basicaly said, if im going to take an L, let me at least cash out so I can feel better about it.
Ong 😂😂
Somebody with good brain and sense said it better. Thanks 💯
Basically! 💯
Stop it.. we don’t know what will happen until they fight.. he’s willing to fight Tank and Tank will stop Shakur.. I don’t think a 🦆 fights Tank in his very next fight lol
This duck had no choice though. Tank ran out of opposition so Haymon pulled him out. Martin’s handlers agreed to the fight and Haymon pulled him off last second knowing that if he loses to Shakur the buyrate for any Tank fight vs anyone will flop under 100k. So why not just keep it in house, keep all the money for Haymon, and stack Tank’s undercard up with hopes it can give Tank good buys. Tank is practically done at 135 if there’s no cross promotion involved
Don't sleep on Frank Martin
He going to sleep against Tank
@@calvinjohnson3171 dont seeit happening
Frank Martin a Dawg 👏🏾
I don’t know if either going to sleep but he not beating tank
@@ydksab_1it happened Niggas told you stop goin against the grain 😂👌🏾
Frank whether you win or lose, you're still a true champion my brother. Great boxers in the past took loses and bounced back. I love you and Tank.
He lost before you even commented
Him vs tank finna be a street fight
Not really....
I like martin.
But he gotta be sharp early
Frank is more of a boxer than a straight puncher
He gotta be sharp the whole fight when fighting Tank.
Facts fam...frank cant get lazy with his defense.. i like both fighters thou
Better fight, better purse Frank won Shakur looking crazy now
Shakur only known for tweeting 😂
He is three weight class champion, frank martin best achievement is " i train with error Spence" 😂😂😂 u can NEVER say neither tank Davis nor this nobody right here achieved more than Shakur, so stfu.
Sakira Twitterson lmao
@@HamzeOsmanhe a track star more than a boxer lmaoooo
Mind you he never said Shakur was lying he just said he wanted more in other words make it worth it to catch that L. Talking bout make me leave the fight feeling good. The win plus yo biggest payday what’s not to feel good about 🤦🏾♂️
@@dashundaniel7936 Shakur is experiencing the same problem as the dagestanis in UFC, ppl now how good they're and know they've got very slim chances of beating them, so u have to pay them career high for them to take that risk, he is not powerful but he's extremely skilled.
He’s a dope fighter & a good sport fr. I wish the best for frank in his career, no kizzy
Tank gonna F him up
casual
A tank can't hit a ghost mark my words
Clearly you don't know suit about boxing
You might be surprised my G
@gregwallace213what makes you think he can't? Who tanks best win 😂😂😂😂 Frank gonna be the best Tank has faced
Sounds like a real straight out guy.. hes correct about the money 💰 absolute 💯 he knows his worth.. he just fought Tank last night and was winning every round until he was KO,d in Rd8 he will cause any 135lbers trouble
Fuck the money. You are fighting to establish yourself in the rankings as a true champion. The money will come later.
Fuck the money? Lmao, everything is about the money. So you would have taken a shakur fight on a lesser platform for 300k or wait 6 months to fight a huge draw in tank on a larger platform for 3 million dollars? These men have to feed their families. They ain't doing this shit just to entertain y'all lol
Do you go to work and say forget the money. No!
1. When you see them fight, they are at work.
@@footballguy6418well said
I’m 54 years old and have made a lot of money. I live a life that most would dream of. But the older I get I’m starting to regret that I didn’t become a professional fighter. Before we called it MMA I had already studied boxing, wrestling and variety of other martial arts. I came a very large family that was athletic and so was the kids in the neighborhood. It’s funny how my daughters are now boxing and one is considering turning pro.
$250k more but claims Shakur didn’t offer 25%? Shakur literally offered him 25%. Does he not understand how much tank will make? He is getting much less than 25% now lol duck
Edit: To casuals in the comments… Shakur was gonna make 4 mil, 25% of that is 1 mil…. Now Frank is making 1.25 mil.. when Gervonta gets paid much more than 4 mil + the PPV buys. Do the math. He took months and months before getting the Tank fighting. Could’ve fought them back to back literally.
On the smallest stage in a corner against Shakur, versus being on the biggest stage with the most eyes on him at the highest level, marketing branding against tank, make it make sense buddy the Shakoor fight didn’t make sense at all
He’s too early in his career to take a L from a no name like shakur, there’s no benefits to fighting shakur other than having a good fighter on ur resume
Frank could have been WBC champ if he gave himself a chance. Why sign a contract to fight in the first place?
@@bazil738he didn’t sign a contract he agreed and then wouldn’t sign the contract that’s different Shakur agreed to fight devin than turned around and flaked and went to go try and claim a mandatory 😂why not put up or shut up for undisputed and cash your own ticket why for the same reason Frank Martin said why take a Shakur who recent fought on F*ckin Thursday homie on cable team and had fans leave the arena and sleeping 😴 why take the fight with the less stylistic opponent who had a smaller name if you ask me Frank is winning bc win/lose/ or draw he a be a better fighter after having tank on his resume
These dudes calling Shakur a no name are wilding. Dudes a 3 division champ. Might as well tape the word casual on top of their four head
He’s right. Can’t call it a duck if he’s fighting someone better for more money. More than reasonable 🤷🏾♂️
This excuse doesn’t work 😂 before this he said he would’ve just taken the fight shakur had with Devin for the belt and the opportunity questioning Shakur’s decision to negotiate with Devin
Bro he fighting tank He wasn't making no excuse Plus this is a better and bigger stage for him fighting Shakur would have done nothing for his career but gave him a win
@@Poppa_Reed he didn’t refuse Shakur for tank. He refuse Shakur because he wanted more % He said it himself.
Exactly nobody is Duck Shakur!! Fighting him won’t bring enough money!! Point blank period!
@@S22hi10 then he shouldn’t speak on Shakurs situation
@@GgCashh451 you don't make sense 🤣
Man him fighting Tank can literally change his whole life, if he does good, he will become a star just like pitbull cruz, mario barrios, rolly had his little shine, ryan garcia, fighting Tank is a pay check and a game changer if you do good enough
Man! These fighters these days bro smh lol
IKR lol
What’s wrong with what he said?
@@tofamous13exactly
The titles and legacy don’t matter anymore bruh
@@DABIGHIM it does. That’s why Crawford, inoue, and Devin is pound for pound. You prolly don’t care. But legacy will always matter
After the tank fight i can say, im a frank martin fan. Loss or not. I fw bro and the energy he bring. Bro not overconfident but definitely knows he can bang with the best.
money talks 🤷🏽♂️ high risk low reward is never the motion tbh
RESPECT! Sometimes we dislike a person we don’t even know because we like another person….we don’t even know! Shih is weird like that! Get what you feel you deserve💯💪🏽
So basically he's saying he's doing this all for the money and doesn't care if he wins or loses against Tank
What he is saying high risk low reward again Shakur. Where he could lose then won't have the bigger money fight with tank. So with tank it's high risk, high reward 🤷
You can die in the ring I would hope he’s doing it for $
See u made sense just now he don't care about boxing he only cares about what he gets paid to win or lose
Basically some shit Errol told him. “If you going to lose, lose to the best & cash out.” That’s what this sounds like
Remember, it's called PRIZE FIGHTING!!! The money 💰 is the Prize.
These guys go in the ring to risk their lives for our entertainment. I definitely understand where he is coming from and making sure he was comfortable with the financial situation.
Basically saying it wasn't enough money to lose
Frank spot on, as fans we don’t appreciate the business side of things but if I can possibly get knocked out or I’m fighting you better pay me what I’m asking
Same reason Shakerun declined Haney’s 25% offer
Why Haney offered Shakur 25% but gives Ryan 55%? When Shakur is a more accomplished fighter than Ryan
@@mellemel2247for the money. Reason why Haney wants 25% is because if Haney lose he'll get paid more.
@@mellemel2247not really tbh. Shakur has ducked multiple top fighters
@@mellemel2247When Haney offered 25% to Shakur, Haney was the undisputed lightweight champ. That's also the same percentage Kambosos offered Haney when they fought.
The real question is why didn't Shakur take that 25% and whoop Haney to become the new undisputed lightweight champ? He could have been the boss but his ego got in the way.
@@bshdokkan2252 what top fighters are you talking about?
People always forget first and foremost this is a business. If it don't make cents then it don't make sense.
His right shakur is a big name
He should get at least 300 to 500 thousand.They probably offered
him 100k.Shakur gona run too.
So he has to look for the fight.
I totally understand him.
Try 1 mill and tank only gave him 200 more
More people acting like they are behind the scenes cutting the check. learn to STFU You sound so stupid internet promoters making minimum wage talking about boxers making million dollars fight sounds so dumb You wouldn't even know how to sign a check like that
@@robertkramel"Only 200 more" lmaoo he's fighting on ppv vs tank c'mon nah yal can't be this uneducated you think he's only gonna get 1.2 fighting tank ? 💀
They are PRIZE fighters, Shakur is a bad man he should feel he’s being compensated appropriately for him to take a fight
but he was on shakur ass for not taking the 25% against haney. hypocrite
Not at all he’s talking about branding you are a business and 25% made sense for Shakur because he would’ve been on the biggest stage of his career also against Devon Haney total different sure the Shakoor fight would’ve been on a small stage for small money that’s why Frank turned it down
Uh In case you haven’t notice 25% against Haney with all 4 belts wrapped up including having Haney in your resume why not if you lose to Haney you could still fight top contenders like tank you aren’t being very smart and thinking outside the box ,understand the boxing business .
@@Imthatguy8797what he’s talking about why fighting Stevenson was a dumb idea ! Not the money you want , dangerous and in front of nobody because Stevenson can’t draw flies to shit
Fighting Shakur for a single VACANT belt wehile being the B-side is not the same as fighting Devin Haney for ALL OF THE BELTS and wayyy more money.
@@MattyOkayhow come can’t no shakur fan seem to grasp this simple fact lol😂 if Frank ducked Shakur than Shakur definitely ducked Haney for undisputed ain’t no fighting for a belt all the marbles or shut up and based on both fighters last 2 fights fate spared that man 😂 Shakur wouldn’t of been able to do devin
How he did Edwin.
He makes a good point.
I respect it, imagine going in and risking ya confidence just to still feel underpaid after the fight win or lose
Frank Martin is another one who is just honest. It’s not a duck. I don’t think any of these guys are scared of anyone. It’s just a lot of posturing and trying to get the right deals. Can’t blame them. Boxers have more control of their careers than in the past especially if they’re around the right people. So can’t blame him for that. Everyone should be about their business.
I actually respect his explanation and his view on the fact that people shouldnt be worried about his money.
The excuses are insane. He's full of shit omg!!! Certain fighters today be so wack!!! God boxing is nothing like it once was. You wasn't allowed to be scared. You had to fight.
How was he scared of shakur if he's now fighting tank a guy with a 95% knockout rate lmfao
He find tank Davis next so he definitely wasn't ducking
@@Poppa_Reedhe was tho
Outside the ring it’s a win/win for Frank Martin because even if he loses to Tank, it’ll be his biggest payday AND no one can say he ducked tank.
Duck
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The opportunity to defeat a signature opponent for the WBC belt holds significant value imo. Perhaps Frank is money first , then the other valuable perks after which is okay.
Im a huge frank martin fan and thats real if shakur wanna troll we can say he ducked Devin if it wasn’t about the money then that fight would have been happened
Devin vs shakur would be a banger
I enjoy watching all these black boxer dominate the game in all weight classes
How u ducking somebody when u fighting someone better than them😂
Shakur is my #2 fighter in the game after Bud! But I didn't see Frank as a duck after I heard it was about the money! He's right, just like Shakur wouldn't fight Devin for 25% I couldn't see Frank taking that fight for only 1mill. After he pays his people and his taxes what would he walk away with! Now weather he beats Tank or not, he can now get a bigger payday against Shakur than what they offered him the first time. Smart move by Frank!
He cnt sell fights bro I feel u
Frank and Ryan are smart. They know it makes more sence to take your first loss from tank and get "probably" the biggest bag they'll ever get. Rather than fight shakur and take the risk in losing for a little bag. It's called doing smart business !!!!
For those who claim he is not avoiding Shakur, I understand your perspective. I don't believe that boxers are afraid of each other, but rather they make calculated decisions based on risks. Please consider Frank's statement that "the money wasn't right, but the money was there." This statement contradicts the idea that he wasn't avoiding the fight. According to boxing insiders, Frank would have earned more money than ever before, even more than in the Tank fight, by facing Shakur. Comparing the opponents Frank is facing (Tank Davis and Shakur), a fight with Shakur might have been easier and more lucrative. In conclusion, Frank chose to fight a perceived tougher opponent for less money. Before claiming he is not avoiding Shakur, consider this. I'm not saying he is ducking, but it's clear he had a reason for not wanting to fight Shakur. If that reason was money it’s an odd reason he would’ve made more fighting a lesser fighter.
Shakur can’t sell fights and that’s evident after his last statement when he said Fu(k the fans, does he realize without the fans there’s no big pay day. Professional athletes need to show more appreciation to the fans in general. He said it meaning don’t slug it out just for the fans stick and move and make the fight boring but again this is why he don’t sell. He is extremely talented but this is why tank gets so much love because you know your going to see a knockout not somebody run around all night
Basically some shit Errol told him. “If you going to lose, lose to the best & cash out.” That’s what this sounds like
This explains boxings problem right here… promoters need to force these dudes to fight rankings not biggest paycheck
*He ain’t ducking Shakira Stevenson at all. That’s smart business decision. He fought Tank & got the biggest paycheck of his life. So why settle for way less money with Shakur the most boring fighter in the world?? He can’t sell sh!t*
Exactly, Good effort last night
Frank training camp for a Shakur 🥊🏃🏿🚴🏾🏃🏿... Frank training camp for TANK🥊👨🏾🦼👨🏿🦽🧐⚰🪦
I understand that 💯! He’s the one that’s gonna be fighting. This guy is using mind and muscle 💪🏽! But I wouldn’t bet him over Tank come June!
Frank martin not fighting shakur was the best thing to ever happen to him cause he fought tank and gained experience in that fight, frank was showcasing levels even though he lost and its all respect. Tank showed respect to him in the post interview. I believe him vs shakur wouldve been limited cause fighters dont learn anything from fighting shakur. And people want shakur to fight tank, im neither fans of those guys but tank will HURT that kid. Tank isnt going in there to play tag. I dont even think shakur will beat ryan garcia and thats my man. People better wake up. Frank now knows how it feels to lose so hes gonna push himself even harder from here on out. Tank did that.
He reminds me of Bud in a way I hope Derrick James is the right trainer for this kid 😮not sure he is are in fight adjustments 😮 the kid needs a right team that suit his skill set
Even tho I’m a tank fan I can honestly say I fw Frank Martin he don’t talk to much and actually seems cool
He smart, nowadays where boxers are afraid to lose their 0 it's important to make sure you're money right. Now he's fighting tank and the money def right🙌🏼
He did the same thing Shakur did to Haney. A spade is a spade.
Nobody buying a Shakur (boring) fight. The Tank fight is much better because the money is there and the publicity. He wins in many ways by fighting Tank.
And what really don’t sit well with me is that Haney sent shakur a bs contract for a fight and shakur turned it down and said it wasn’t enough and was mad people said he was ducking Haney but then shakur turned around and did the same thing to Frank Martin 😂
He saying the same thing shakur was saying vs dev 🤷🏾♂️💯
Tank is seen as the face of boxing no matter how u wanna put it he chose right
I realized this annoyed me last night when they said tank ducked lomachenko. Tank wasn’t the tank he is at the time . Why take a fight that wouldn’t garner as much money and attention as it can now back then just to satisfy fans. Boxing is a business at the end of the day. It’s not ducking if the bread don’t make sense.
Exactly and the promotional company I work for gets to keep the fight in-house rather than split the revenue with Top Rank.
What he saying is make the money make sense💯
I am feeling Frank Martin, he is right, Sincerely, Freddy Blue: El Nuevo Estilo de la Musica Urbana 💪🥊💎
I believe he's the next champ. He's more then a boxer. If you ever played multiple sports, you should know he's an athlete. Boxing is just what he's doing now. Them other guys never trained or compete outside of boxing. Football, wrestling, ect are sports that competing becomes the play ground. He'sore them capable to beat the shit out of all the guys in his weight class. Believe me. Homie is an athlete. He looks at them like lunch time
. Gervonta is strong as a person who grow up boxing in his weight class. Frank is strong because all the other sports he played then adapted to boxing. Gervonta haven't met this type of competitor
I been saying this for a long time Ghost is him; don't be surprised when he on top.
The money aight,You work right😂,ain't nothing like a happy worker 💯💪🏾😂
This is an example of the difference between these boxes and the boxers of old.
That's y most of boxers of the past broke 💯
Word that's what's up bro you did a good job.stay with it bro.
Value yourself dawg that’s what’s up 💪
Facts always said this ! why people always worried about other peoples money, and or business
Ain't nobody puttin their life on the line but Him. He worked to paid. He's at that level, and it's His business
he didnt want shakur to box his ears
That's how you progress though, take the fights, win, become the man and dictate the money.
As a Baltimore native I’m hoping tank wins but this dude has a lot of talent and skills so it should be a hell of a fight
I think Martin would've whooped him! Like he would've beat Davis, had he stayed out the corner 🤦🏿♀️
I feel him, cuz you gotta realize fighters only get paid 1-4 times a year and he not getting crazy money and he still gotta pay taxes, coaches, managers, promoters, bills, and have money to have until he fight again
Duck it would’ve made the Tank fight bigger had he won period
Ey Tank said it" you just fighting for a check"...
You can’t say why he worried about what you’re making when previously Martin is quoted as saying “ What I was asking for wasn’t outrageous. For what he was getting paid, what I asked for was reasonable. The fight could’ve happened, it’s all about the money. “
That's how fighters these days NEVER end up getting less major bouts.
Take that man's belts and THEN you can set or indicate the money you want.
Now the perception you've created is that you're not too confident in your ability to win.
THIS IS THE HURT BUSINESS, Bro.
Same thing Haney did to Shakur, Shakur didn't accept the offer, can't blame Frank. The money must be right. Frank and Shakur are worthy opponents, even if they don't have the biggest following, pay these brothas
Alao people need to remember that he's signed with pbc and shakur is signed with top rank. Frank vs tank is a in-house fight, im sure a way better contract, and he is fighting a way bigger name
Smart man !!