Why has Boris Johnson who has been divorced twice between allowed to marry a third time with the blessing of the Catholic Church? He was married in Westminster...Is the Catholic CHURCH NOT HYPOCRITICAL YET DEMANDS GAYS BE Celibate..Answer please
ECCLESIASTES 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions. Sin is a choice, that includes homosexuality. Roman's 1:26-27 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Romans 6:23King James Version (KJV) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. DEUTERONOMY 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Turn to Jesus Christ and live.
John G. Every day you have choice. From the beginning Adam & Eve had a choice. They chose to disobey God's clear instruction to not partake of the fruit of knowledge of Good & Evil. You have a choice to make. Life or Death. The two ultimate paths. It is thru Jesus Christ alone that you will find salvation. I hope you turn to Him and choose life. Jesus bless you and your family.
John G. Let God be true & every man a liar. Your view is wrong. You have a choice regardless if God knows what you ultimately will choose. One is a paradise with God Almighty that is everlasting life. The other leads to a Godless hell devoid of love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, or self-control.
And what "lifestyle" is that? Reading my Bible and praying? Trying to save myself for the right man when/if we settle down? Stopping drinking and avoiding drugs? Should I quit praying and just burn my Bible? Maybe go back to hooking up with a different guy as often as possible? Start drinking again, but go further and become the town drunk that is expected? Do as much drugs as possible?
The labels used are misleading. Sodomy is a sin just the same as anyother sin. IF you choose to become Catholic THEN you have abandoned that sin. So how could you still be considered a sodomite? Would someone who is a murderer say; "I am a murdering catholic"? How about "I am a pornographic Catholic", or "I am an adulterist Catholic". You must abandon the label to or what Christ did on the cross means nothing and you leave the wrong impression of sin to the world.
+Berry Catholic Boys The conciliar church of the final apostasy is run by satan,,, they have infiltrated and subverted the true church of GOD and replaced our good men with evil ones,,,,satan plans to destroy the one true church from within and so far he is getting away with it too,,, in order to destroy the church all together he must confuse the minds of catholic people and turn the once holy church into an engine of sin promotion,,,he seeks to destroy the idea of living holy so he comes up with terms like "Gay Catholic" to make people think you can live in sin and still be faithful to GOD ,,,he wants you to believe that you can be a christian who lives in sin,,,notice the pope rarely ever preaches from the bible anymore,,,he never preaches hard against sin like the popes of old,,,I cant think of one pope in my lifetime who ever preached hard from scripture or hard on sin,,,,thats because they are all modernists who dont believe in sin,,,they dont believe the bible,,,they dont believe Jesus did miracles ,,,these men are infiltrators,,,,THEY ARE CHANGE AGENTS OF SATAN ,,,,many devil possessed clerics are operating inside the church working to destroy it,,,plenty of homosexual infiltrators and heretics run amok,,,,, the pope will not excommunicate these men,,,,he only attacks the traditionalists who obey GOD,,,he attacks the people who do honor the timeless traditions of the church,,,,those who preach against sin and revile evil,,so we are dealing with a coup,,,the evil one has taken over complete control of the church and he is trying to run the ship aground,,,be on your guard
The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality. There are only 5 or so references which can be used against gay people: 1) Genesis It's a condemnation of gang rape. 2) & 3) Leviticus This is part of the Holiness Code, and not the Moral Code, which means it has nothing to do with morality and is meant only for the Jews. The term translated to 'as with' means bed every other time it's used in Leviticus and when Paul referred to this passage (see my Corinthians comments) he wrote bed. There's also no way any Hebrew term can be translated to specifically mean "as with" since there are no Hebrew terms for words like "as" nor "with". The term used for abomination can only be found to convey ritual transgressions and the term for a moral transgression was not used. 4) Romans It's a clear cut condemnation of Pagan idolatry. Both gay and straight sex rituals were used in their idol worship. There's a good reason why homophobes only give the "for this reason" part without giving the reason. 5) Corinthians Paul stated "male bed" and "soft" (as in morals or fabric - this term is never used to mean some sort of mannerism.) The meaning of the two terms has been lost to history, all we do know if Paul was referring to that Leviticus passage. This passage was condemning masturbation instead of homosexuality less than 100 years ago. Before that, in the 16th century, it was condemning pedophilia and in the medieval times it was pimping. Jesus mentions homosexuality as least twice, if not three times. He refers to gay men as born eunuchs in Matthew 19, one of the 3 types of men not made for marrying women. When Jesus met a gay man, via the Roman Centurion trying to heal his 'pais', He said of him, "Never have I seen faith greater than this." Neither time does he condemn. There's also research that "raca", when He states "Whomever calls his brother raca..", is the word we have as the f-word today. The greatest, most passionate love story in the Bible also happens to be between two man. At no point in history have two men been alone in private where one takes off all of his clothes and gives it to other as a sign of devotion unless those two men were gay or bisexual.
***** Back up. The FACT is that Hebrew term used for 'abomination' is NEVER found to convey a moral sin. It's always about ritually impure transgressions. The Hebrew term to convey a moral transgression was NOT used. And "natural law"? You mean the law that states homosexuality is 100% natural or are we coming up with our own definition of 'natural' these days??? btw, and these "Catholic teachings"... You mean the one coming from the institution that is made up of closet to 80% self hating closeted gay men? The one that made damn sure they covered up child sex abuse and allowed it to thrive and fester? That one??? btw, stop talking about crap you don't know about. You obvioulsy have NO CLUE to what that Hebrew term, to'evah to be exact, means. Why don't you go online and find some Bible tool that will let you look up every time that Hebrew word is used. Here's a hint: IT IS NEVER USED TO CONVEY A MORAL SIN. It's EXACTLY why it's used to mean stuff like eating shellfish and getting tattoos.
***** There you go again, talking about crap as if you know WTF you're actually talking about. Homosexuality has been documented in THOUSANDS of species of animals in nature and therefor is not only part of "natural law" but is 100% NATURAL.
***** No, what you meant is to keep talking out of your ass without being called out for the crap talk it is. First you insist on saying the 'abomionation' is this or that WHEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA ON REALLY WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT and then go on and on and on about "natrual law" while ignoring homosexuality is as natural as ANYTHING gets. Do you know why gay rights keeps progressing at such an exponential rate? Because ANYONE can look up FACTUAL INFORMATION and call your crap out for the complete bullsh$t it really is. In .0002 seconds or less. Piss off.
***** well considering many of the most famous men in any particular field in our world's history were either gay or bisexual men then I'd say there's quite a bit of an advantage for the world's progress when a man isn't burden down with having to take care of a wife and his kids.
Wow, i just cant manage to wrap my head around people so willingly accepting life as a second class citizen, just because some old book with an unknown number of authors from centuries past, that has been subjected to countless translations and interpretations, says it is wrong or immoral. Sin, like deities, are a construct of the human mind to try and understand the things that we can not control and/or explain.
It's not as a second class citizen. Everyone just has their own calling. If being in a relationship with someone is more important than your relationship with God, you just don't get it.
It's an allegorical tale that means you apply that to many different things. Not just reproduction. But, in your every action. You "multiply" as a child of god by being kind as well. Being discriminatory, on the other hand, no.
How can someone "be fruitful and multiply" if he is turned off by women? I think you just don't want to understand what the word gay means. You seem to imply humans are equally wired to a common necessity of sexual intimacy with the opposite sex. I'm sorry to tell but the world is not that schematic and perfect.
Thank you for helping us meet these brothers and sisters in Christ, CNS. Much appreciated!!
These people are heroes and future saints!!! Saying yes to God, despite the tremendous cross they have to bear.
Blessed be ! God is love 2 all man and women bless this temple at the highest !
So true, thank you.
When the Son Saves You, AJ Benjamin.
Yes David Morrison said that family is when someone will pick you up when your car breaks down.
Why has Boris Johnson who has been divorced twice between allowed to marry a third time with the blessing of the Catholic Church? He was married in Westminster...Is the Catholic CHURCH NOT HYPOCRITICAL YET DEMANDS GAYS BE Celibate..Answer please
Chaste through obedience.
What a beautiful bloke.
ECCLESIASTES 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
Sin is a choice, that includes homosexuality.
Roman's 1:26-27
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 6:23King James Version (KJV)
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
DEUTERONOMY 30:19
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Turn to Jesus Christ and live.
John G. Every day you have choice. From the beginning Adam & Eve had a choice. They chose to disobey God's clear instruction to not partake of the fruit of knowledge of Good & Evil.
You have a choice to make.
Life or Death.
The two ultimate paths.
It is thru Jesus Christ alone that you will find salvation. I hope you turn to Him and choose life. Jesus bless you and your family.
John G. Let God be true & every man a liar. Your view is wrong. You have a choice regardless if God knows what you ultimately will choose.
One is a paradise with God Almighty that is everlasting life.
The other leads to a Godless hell devoid of love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, or self-control.
Beyond Gay, David Morrison.
Romans chapter 1 clearly condemns the homosexual lifestyle. Read your bibles, folks.
And what "lifestyle" is that? Reading my Bible and praying? Trying to save myself for the right man when/if we settle down? Stopping drinking and avoiding drugs? Should I quit praying and just burn my Bible? Maybe go back to hooking up with a different guy as often as possible? Start drinking again, but go further and become the town drunk that is expected? Do as much drugs as possible?
The labels used are misleading. Sodomy is a sin just the same as anyother sin. IF you choose to become Catholic THEN you have abandoned that sin. So how could you still be considered a sodomite? Would someone who is a murderer say; "I am a murdering catholic"? How about "I am a pornographic Catholic", or "I am an adulterist Catholic". You must abandon the label to or what Christ did on the cross means nothing and you leave the wrong impression of sin to the world.
Both said they were celibate...
+Berry Catholic Boys The conciliar church of the final apostasy is run by satan,,, they have infiltrated and subverted the true church of GOD and replaced our good men with evil ones,,,,satan plans to destroy the one true church from within and so far he is getting away with it too,,, in order to destroy the church all together he must confuse the minds of catholic people and turn the once holy church into an engine of sin promotion,,,he seeks to destroy the idea of living holy so he comes up with terms like "Gay Catholic" to make people think you can live in sin and still be faithful to GOD ,,,he wants you to believe that you can be a christian who lives in sin,,,notice the pope rarely ever preaches from the bible anymore,,,he never preaches hard against sin like the popes of old,,,I cant think of one pope in my lifetime who ever preached hard from scripture or hard on sin,,,,thats because they are all modernists who dont believe in sin,,,they dont believe the bible,,,they dont believe Jesus did miracles ,,,these men are infiltrators,,,,THEY ARE CHANGE AGENTS OF SATAN ,,,,many devil possessed clerics are operating inside the church working to destroy it,,,plenty of homosexual infiltrators and heretics run amok,,,,, the pope will not excommunicate these men,,,,he only attacks the traditionalists who obey GOD,,,he attacks the people who do honor the timeless traditions of the church,,,,those who preach against sin and revile evil,,so we are dealing with a coup,,,the evil one has taken over complete control of the church and he is trying to run the ship aground,,,be on your guard
8ElionAdvancing8 I agree. I have seen much of what you are saying myself.
***** No jon. You don't get it.
Having the gay flag on a Catholic Church is sacrilege.
The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality. There are only 5 or so references which can be used against gay people:
1) Genesis
It's a condemnation of gang rape.
2) & 3) Leviticus
This is part of the Holiness Code, and not the Moral Code, which means it has nothing to do with morality and is meant only for the Jews. The term translated to 'as with' means bed every other time it's used in Leviticus and when Paul referred to this passage (see my Corinthians comments) he wrote bed. There's also no way any Hebrew term can be translated to specifically mean "as with" since there are no Hebrew terms for words like "as" nor "with". The term used for abomination can only be found to convey ritual transgressions and the term for a moral transgression was not used.
4) Romans
It's a clear cut condemnation of Pagan idolatry. Both gay and straight sex rituals were used in their idol worship. There's a good reason why homophobes only give the "for this reason" part without giving the reason.
5) Corinthians
Paul stated "male bed" and "soft" (as in morals or fabric - this term is never used to mean some sort of mannerism.) The meaning of the two terms has been lost to history, all we do know if Paul was referring to that Leviticus passage. This passage was condemning masturbation instead of homosexuality less than 100 years ago. Before that, in the 16th century, it was condemning pedophilia and in the medieval times it was pimping.
Jesus mentions homosexuality as least twice, if not three times. He refers to gay men as born eunuchs in Matthew 19, one of the 3 types of men not made for marrying women. When Jesus met a gay man, via the Roman Centurion trying to heal his 'pais', He said of him, "Never have I seen faith greater than this." Neither time does he condemn. There's also research that "raca", when He states "Whomever calls his brother raca..", is the word we have as the f-word today.
The greatest, most passionate love story in the Bible also happens to be between two man. At no point in history have two men been alone in private where one takes off all of his clothes and gives it to other as a sign of devotion unless those two men were gay or bisexual.
***** Back up. The FACT is that Hebrew term used for 'abomination' is NEVER found to convey a moral sin. It's always about ritually impure transgressions. The Hebrew term to convey a moral transgression was NOT used.
And "natural law"? You mean the law that states homosexuality is 100% natural or are we coming up with our own definition of 'natural' these days???
btw, and these "Catholic teachings"... You mean the one coming from the institution that is made up of closet to 80% self hating closeted gay men? The one that made damn sure they covered up child sex abuse and allowed it to thrive and fester? That one???
btw, stop talking about crap you don't know about. You obvioulsy have NO CLUE to what that Hebrew term, to'evah to be exact, means. Why don't you go online and find some Bible tool that will let you look up every time that Hebrew word is used. Here's a hint: IT IS NEVER USED TO CONVEY A MORAL SIN. It's EXACTLY why it's used to mean stuff like eating shellfish and getting tattoos.
***** There you go again, talking about crap as if you know WTF you're actually talking about.
Homosexuality has been documented in THOUSANDS of species of animals in nature and therefor is not only part of "natural law" but is 100% NATURAL.
***** No, what you meant is to keep talking out of your ass without being called out for the crap talk it is.
First you insist on saying the 'abomionation' is this or that WHEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA ON REALLY WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT and then go on and on and on about "natrual law" while ignoring homosexuality is as natural as ANYTHING gets.
Do you know why gay rights keeps progressing at such an exponential rate? Because ANYONE can look up FACTUAL INFORMATION and call your crap out for the complete bullsh$t it really is. In .0002 seconds or less.
Piss off.
***** well considering many of the most famous men in any particular field in our world's history were either gay or bisexual men then I'd say there's quite a bit of an advantage for the world's progress when a man isn't burden down with having to take care of a wife and his kids.
Charistoff how are you defining natural law?
Wow, i just cant manage to wrap my head around people so willingly accepting life as a second class citizen, just because some old book with an unknown number of authors from centuries past, that has been subjected to countless translations and interpretations, says it is wrong or immoral. Sin, like deities, are a construct of the human mind to try and understand the things that we can not control and/or explain.
It's not as a second class citizen. Everyone just has their own calling. If being in a relationship with someone is more important than your relationship with God, you just don't get it.
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soooooo be fruitful and multiply mean nothing to you??
It's an allegorical tale that means you apply that to many different things. Not just reproduction. But, in your every action. You "multiply" as a child of god by being kind as well. Being discriminatory, on the other hand, no.
How can someone "be fruitful and multiply" if he is turned off by women? I think you just don't want to understand what the word gay means. You seem to imply humans are equally wired to a common necessity of sexual intimacy with the opposite sex. I'm sorry to tell but the world is not that schematic and perfect.
This is why you can be Gay and Catholic -
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Kith and kin.