Why Did Jesus Have to Die on the Cross?
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- One of the most difficult components in the story Christianity is the crucifixion of Jesus on the Cross. Some people don’t like the brutality of it, some people think it shows a weakness in Jesus that is incompatible with an all-powerful God, and some people just don’t get what it has to do with reconciliation with God.
And for me, when I first came to believe in God and was warming up to Christianity, I couldn’t make heads or tails of this idea that Jesus had to die on the cross in order for mankind to be restored to friendship with God.
At that point in my formation I would have found this analogy fitting: imagine if you had wronged somebody or you were indebted to someone and you had to appeal to their mercy because of your inability to pay them back. And their reply was something like, “I forgive you and to demonstrate the sincerity of my forgiveness, I will now murder my beloved dog.”
And you’re like, “thanks for the forgiveness… and all, but we don’t have to kill the dog. You could just forgive me and leave the dog alone.” And they’re like, “No! I cannot forgive you, unless the dog dies!”
This is how the explanations for the formula of Christ’s sacrifice on the cross leading to our forgiveness and salvation appeared to me. Why would an innocent party have to be murdered for us to be restored to God’s favor? That doesn’t seem like “justification” it seems like a further injustice piled on to an already bad situation. If God was prepared to forgive us, why not just forgive us.
But to use this analogy, as a criticism for Christianity, depends on a kind of juvenile formulation of how the Cross leads to salvation and unfortunately, it’s an oft recited formulation. It goes something like, “Jesus paid the price for our sins to satisfy the wrath of God.”
But again, if God was willing to forgive us our debt, he could have just forgiven it. Why does it still need to be paid?
And the longer I’ve followed Christianity, the more that analogy with the dog doesn’t correlate to my experience of being transformed by the sacrifice of Jesus.
The analogy fails in a few ways. First, the two individuals in the exchange are peers. They are both thought of as humans, albeit, one is in a higher position.
The second problem is that forgiveness alone, isn’t what Jesus came to provide for us and while a debt can be forgiven, as in the analogy, it doesn’t necessarily lead to reconciliation and friendship. Imagine if you hurt someone through a flaw in your character, like you were compulsively dishonest. They could forgive you for your transgression, but that doesn’t mean they have to allow you back into a position of confidence from which you could hurt them again. They could forgive you and wish you well as you depart ways.
But that’s not what God wants. He wants us to partake in his divine life and to be fully restored to communion and friendship with him but in order to enjoy that degree of intimacy with him, we must first become morally good.
If we still retain our attachments to compulsive dishonesty, greed, laziness, lust, and pride, then heaven wouldn’t be any different than what we currently have. So mere forgiveness isn’t enough, God has to also see to it that we are transformed into saints.
So how does he transform us? Well, he gives us of himself - Christians call it his Grace. He infuses his goodness, his strength, his will, and his love into us so that we can become more like him.
God’s grace gives us the ability to grow in holiness and to do as we should in life, but there’s one aspect of our experience that God’s grace could not help us with because it was foreign to his nature - that is to suffer and die.
God doesn’t suffer because suffering is a consequence of some deprivation. For example, we suffer when we are hungry because we are deprived of food. But God lacks nothing and is life itself, so suffering and death are unfamiliar to him unless he chooses to experience these things.
And that’s exactly what he did through the incarnation of Jesus. He entered into the fiasco of human existence by becoming one of us and then demonstrating, by his own example and experience, the way back to an existence of harmony with him, ourselves, and each other.
And he didn’t simply enter into one version of life and suffering. He knew full well, that some people would and do suffer in unimaginable ways so he chose a path that would make it so that he experienced the most excruciating suffering available. The etymology of the word excruciating, by the way, is to be crucified. So he literally suffered an excruciating death.
So God forgives us but not only that, he makes a way for our suffering to be redemptive. He tells us to pick up our cross and follow him and that if we embrace that cross the way he did, we will be made new and perfected in his Grace - a grace he can now give us for having suffered as we do.
FINALLY! Someone explains this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you
I have no words to describe how important I think your content is. I have always been catholic and most of my life accepted what I was though without fully understand it and therefore I have this feeling that I'm no true christian, I feel if I die tomorrow I would not have the right to be with God but your explanations bring me a step closer to understanding the "Whys" and therefore be more willing to engage actively in the faith and follow Christ example. Thank you so much! May God bless you and my best wishes to you from a little country called Honduras in the heart of America.
May Jesus abundantly bless you Brian! This was like a breath of fresh air, leading to a deeper intimacy with Jesus. Aspiring to create content like you someday.
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Your videos always have a great way of lifting up my spirits and solidifying my faith . Thank you.
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Amen
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@@IdontknowHisname-r2fwhere’d he die?
Wow ….. I watched this over 4 times. Thank you!!!!! This was truly a blessing
Nice content and I agree. I can't remember which saint said that Jesus would have only needed to shed one drop of blood as a sacrifice, and so him going through the rest was to set an example and to demonstrate his love as much as possible - also showing us that he is not asking us to do what he is not willing to do himself
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Great explanation my friend God Bless you🙏🏻
Wow this video is amazing. I was raised catholic and recently returned back to the faith. This topic is always something i accepted but could never fully understand. A beautiful explanation thanks Brian!
@Greg Jacques "catholicism has murdered children" no, it was people that murdered them, catholicism teaches murder is a mortal sin. It is tragic what happened, and you're right they must meet their maker. Don't laugh at that, mourn for their souls and pray that they repented before they died
@Greg Jacques sorry mate my reference for truth is not a movie, in any case that doesnt change the fact the murder is a mortal sin and sadly those souls are in Hell unless they repented. I noticed you've commented on a few comments on this video. The fact is, the catholic church will never be perfect, but as a great saint once said, the church is not a museum of saints, it is a hospital for sinners. As long as there are people in the church, therr will be sinners
@Greg Jacques that verse relates to a woman being found to not be a virgin but nice try. It is not for us to judge whether a sinner repented before their death or not, indeed some sinners have repented on their deathbed. We do not know the limits of God's mercy
@Greg Jacques it is not right for us to judge the limits of God's mercy or where a soul has found itself at its judgement. God bless you in your journey to the truth
@Greg Jacques murder is a mortal sin, if not repented they are in Hell. But we do not know if they repented before they died or the limits of God's mercy.
Sorry for the confusion it is late here in Australia
Very good, you answered my question "Perfectly" Thank The Lord Jesus Christ🙏 Bless you Brian. In The Name Of the Father The Son And The Holy Spirit🙏
This is the best explenation video i could find right now. Thank you so much, god bless u ✝️
This is so powerful and helpful. I have been trying to wrap my head around this to ease my doubts and was so frustrated by the courtroom analogy where someone just pays your debt. Like God wouldn't exploit his own legal loophole to pay the debt to Himself. The idea of reconciliation through sharing our experience that He may show us the way rings so much more true. Thank you!
This was beautiful, I’ve been searching for answers. Not just the same ones I see on UA-cam that explain that “Jesus died because we are all bad people” but this shows me more of the loving nature of God, one of understanding not judgement
This was very informative. I never thought about the etymology of "excruciating". Thanks for sharing!
Contents you shared are very important for me but gonna be important for many through my life
This is one of the best explications of the atonement. Thank you so much for sharing!
no its not, why the music ?? to sound holy, the penalty of sin is death, and we are sinner,so through lord jesus we have eternal life
This explanation is the best one yet. It took over 50 years to finally know this. Your gift of story telling and oral communication is what I've waited for, all of my life. *** Can YOU PLEASE tell me what the "pick up your cross" means? Thank you in advance.
I'm so glad it helped. Here are some relevant videos. I'd also recommend The Problem of Pain by CS Lewis.
ua-cam.com/video/7dXp0z8oFOI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/-C6o5WUsXsY/v-deo.html
LA did jesus die for my sins?
Have a very blessed Easter Brian.
I love the analogy of killing the dog, and your background music
Best description of the need for the life and death of Christ (Imanuel) that I have ever heard! Thank you very much Brian Holdsworth! I just subscribed to your chanel and wish you and your family all the best. I and my husband are followers of Christ in the Quaker tradition and am learning from you a Catholic which really shows how amazing God is because the Quakers started out of a reaction towards how the Catholics were at a certain time in England. God bless you richly! I cannot wait to tell my Quaker friends about your channel!
I'm in awe of how your explanation makes so much sense. This video is a blessing... thank you.
Wow. This was a journey of understanding. Thank you
This video was very well articulated, God bless you, bro!!
"God create a circumstance in which HE can experience human suffering"
this statement really open my mind
Great video Brian. This is the part of the Faith I'm still wrapping my head around. I understood that God 'wrote Himself' into the story to suffer with us, but until you mentioned the 'empathy' piece I hadn't fully grasped why. Thank you.
Fr. Thomas Joseph White has a great Thomistic take on Christ's sacrifice by way of book-keeping analogy. There is a debt owed and because Christ's Divine nature possesses an infinite quality, his sacrifice provides enough Grace to cover all debts, now and forever. If we extend this idea to 'empathy' - in suffering with us he gains 'infinite' empathy for our suffering and as such closes the chasm between our fallen nature and His infinite goodness by way of Love and understanding.
I'd never considered that Christ's suffering was the conduit for God's understanding of our suffering. The phrase: "Jesus wept." when Lazarus dies makes far more sense in this context. Am I on the right track or have I lost the plot?
Apologies if that was at all incoherent. Thanks for the great content.
Thanks for your profound insights and the articulate expression of them. God bless you. Though it is 20 minutes til midnight, at the time of this post, I will say in advance: *He is risen!*
Wow this really helps. Thank you, saving this one 🙏
Thank you, brian. You helped me revert back to christianity God bless you
Brilliance in-depth & poignant very important well put
I've pondered on this question for so long.
He didn't really answer the question. Jesus death is in vain.
That was an interesting take on that. I personally don't find this explanation satisfactory but I think the WHY of the crucifixion has puzzled people ever since it happened. I think there must be some additional sense in that but it is hard to find. Maybe it can't be found by thinking about it but only by feeling your way towards it because to me it doesn't make sense. Certainly there are many things in the world that just don't make sense. It probably is important to see that life is an eternal thing and death is but a station. That you can overcome this death on earth. Maybe it'll make more sense to us later. It certainly is meaningful so I'm glad that people are reflecting over it. Thank you for your insights!
By the way, the music was exquisitely beautiful, could you maybe tell me what it was and where I can listen to this version?
Thank you and have a blessed Easter! :)
There are two aspects of it. One, His death, two His death on the cross specifically. The first part is we (gentiles) needed a sacrifice for our sins because only Israel had atonement through the temple, so when Christ took the Kingdom of God away from Israel (Mt 21.43) for disbelief that He was Messiah and gave it to gentiles we needed a sacrifice of which He gave us by His death. So His death opened the door for the world to qualify to enter the KOG. Second, His death had to match prophecy exactly or it was fraudulent because of the sanctity of God's word.
I'm only 1 minute and 20 seconds into this video and already it looks brilliant and I have wondered the same thing myself for a long time.
I have asked priests about it as well as other people and I haven't gotten an answer yet that really I can live with, accept and understand, so I am looking forward to watching the rest of the 6 minutes and 40 seconds of this video.
I'm looking forward to an epiphany........
Wow, this explanation helps so much. Thank you! I also love the track in the background; it's beautiful.
If anyone knows the track playing in the background, please post it . Thx ❤🙏🏾
Not the response I was waiting for but it was the most honest in whole youtube
Thank you. You have a simple way of stating The Truth so that even a cradle Catholic like myself can find peace/solace in it. That is a gift.
Wow finally ! This explanation was great thx
Very well said! This really helped me! God bless you!
Happy Easter !!!
Yeah later Happy Easter 🐣 again!!!
Pls...make a video about your view on the crusades..
It's coming...
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@@BrianHoldsworth Jesus was God in the flesh.Everything he did was righteous , good,and true.
Mankind then and now could never begin to comprehend him,much deal with him.
So to me God's plan all along was not just to have Jesus sacrificed nesiseraly, but to expose the evil of the world,by sending a perfect sinless man into the world, and let Satan show his hand.
We cannot receive the One who bled, died, and conquered death IF THAT ONE DIDN’T EXIST. Due to the cross, He does.
Wow! Wow! Wow! I just love this young man!!!!!!
Brian, you need to make videos for the Catholic youth. With all of this crazy wishy washy stuff (corruption ) going on nowadays, our youth are getting so lost! I cry for my children. Their CATHOLIC school IS Suffering! They are being taught that God rejoices in other religions and belief systems. We do not need to worry about going to hell,..... I will not even start, I think you know where I'm coming from. Please try to get on the speaking circuit like Scott Hahn, Brandt Pitre , Edward Sri, and many others. Your explanations are so current and easy to understand. Your love and expression of our Catholic Faith is beyond measurable joy for me and many others, to have you at the touch of a button. Please create some talks for our struggling teens and early twenty somethings and maybe put said talks on the Catholic Lighthouse CDs!
I pray for you and your family!
Thank you so much for this insightful video. We tend to forget that Jesus was a man and not just an avatar. I very much enjoyed the stories of Jesus life as a man and especially a child. He was still a child with immaturity but had Devine powers so that is interesting to me.
This was an absolutely brilliant way of explaining why God had to become human and be crucified. Amen brother Amen!
This is the gospel message through and through! Terrific presentation
Hope you all have a great easter
Best! Explanation! Ever!
No salvation outside the church. Beautiful. Thank you.
You explain it better tham others do, cool.
Happy Easter everyone!!!! ☦☧✝️
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Thank you so much. 🙏
Thank you I learned my lesson god please forgive for my behavior
Thank you so much for the eternal message ~
By the way, what was the uplifting music?
Jesus having to die is definitely rough. I see it in the way that Jesus HAD to die for us to be forgiven as an example a "I love you all so much that my son will die for your sins so you wont have to die for them". An example to us to be grateful that we are loved and forgiven. Forgiving and forgiving for no reason is just like saying im sorry when you dont mean it.
Thank you Brian, God bless you
Your videos are usually too intellectual for me, but this video was extremely good! Being a Catholic from birth, I never suffered what you describe at the beginning of the video. I never asked myself question of why God died on the Cross. I already knew why and I never second-guessed it. I received such a good religious education from my mother and my school that I never spent time wondering what you wondered. I accepted from early on that the Jews sacrificed animals for God, therefore it was clear to me why we call Jesus the Lamb of God who takes the sins of the world.
Thank you for this video. It made me realize how lucky I was to have such a Catholic entourage and especially a very good Catholic mother! Merci Mom! Que son âme repose en paix!
Daniel: Lambs did not have to be sacrificed either. Why would an invisible entity need animal to be sacrificed to him anyway? It was all about ritual. Jesus did not have to be sacrificed either, god could have just forgiven us, if there is a god.
@@anonymousjohnson976 How can you look at a newborn baby's little toe, how perfect it is and actually say "if" there is a God? How can any intelligent human being believe that the complexity of the univers and everything in it, including the complexity of the human body and actually say "if" there is a God? How can an intelligent person think this is all an accident.
I have a severely mentally handicapped 35 year old son who, when mass is over says "Mass is beautiful" because he doesn't have the veil that "normal" people have. He sees the beauty of God and the sacrement of the Eucharist. He is always so happy to receive Holy Communion.
Two separate priests have told me (without either one knowing the other said it) that my son is closer to God than we poor people because we "normal" people have a veil of sin that my son doesn't have.
Daniel: First of all, you were not born a Catholic. You were born an atheist and you were brainwashed by your parents to be Catholic. We are all the product of our upbringing and environment; that is a fact. You and others are just parroting what they have learned and what they have been told - being gullible and naïve. I do not believe that everything came about by "accident." Actually, I do not know how everything came about, but evolution and abiogenesis is the best answer so far. When we don't know or understand something, why insert that a "god" did it, Daniel? If you want to stay sane, I say question everything and live in the light of knowledge rather than the dimness of self delusion. Science = evidence without certainty, religion = certainty without evidence. I feel also that since my mind has been expanded, it would be quite impossible to return it to its original dimensions. Obtain some critical thinking skills and be free of the dogma of religion. Don't worry - be happy.
@@anonymousjohnson976 I've heard what your wrote a thousand times. Just because I was given faith does not mean I don't have a mind and I don't think! You can't prove that God does NOT exist. but I can prove that He DOES. There have been multitudes of miracles throughout history, and one of them in my own family.
My own grandmother had tuberculosis, a communicable disease where patients were imprisoned in sanatoriums (hospitals). One of her lungs was so bad doctors were about to remove it completely. But she had a flew and they decided to operate when she recovered from the flew. She, along with a priest, prayed for nine days (called a novena). Afterwards my grandmother was totally cured. Her lung was good as new.
You cannot cure of tuberculosis in nine days! It is medically impossible. She had been in sanatoriums on three different occasions for a total period of five years while raising 11 kids. After the novena she never had any signs of tuberculosis the rest of her life! Miracles DO exist and they PROVE God's existence!
Daniel: We as atheists, freethinkers, and humanists have also what you say a million times, but it does not prove that an invisible entity exists. A negative cannot be proven, so it is up to the religious to prove their extraordinary claims. I'm so happy that your grandmother recovered, but it does not prove that a "god" did it. I would have to have more evidence, however, regarding all the facts of the case. Did the Catholic church say that this was a miracle? Are you absolutely positive that the diagnosis was correct? How competent were the physicians and the testing? When you have a headache and you say a prayer to take the headache away, do you thank god for removing the headache or do you think logically and say that it was the aspirin that helped? Also, as far as miracles are concerned, why doesn't god help little children who are being raped, tortured, and murdered? I think a miracle could be given to them as well. Daniel, you sound like you have had a hard life, so have I, but I am at the point in my life where I cannot be gullible and naïve anymore. I am searching for knowledge and real truth. Civility, decency, and compassion are the answers. We agree to disagree, but good luck to you.
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER.THANKS
This was excellent....
Thank you...
I’m not Catholic, but this explains well what I believe to be true about God, Jesus, the cross and the Trinitarian aspect of it.....
They must relinquish my work. And give it to me and give me oversight over every single action they make using those ideas I've given them.
Beautiful!!! Thank you!!!
Please, can you share with us the source of this teaching? Is this something Catholics are required to believe?
Thank you! God's inability to suffer in his normal state was a huge missing piece in my understanding of it all!
This was super informative thank you!
That beginning explanation is how many Protestants explains the crucifixion...
Which Protestant?
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This is such a complicated but fascinating topic! Thanks for tackling it. Question though : you said God couldn't suffer because he didn't lack anything, but doesn't God suffer when we don't choose Him, or choose evil (as a consequence of our free will)? I hope this isn't a childish view of it all, but it seems to me that by giving us free will, God is "missing" the opportunity to have all his children believe and respect him
Excellent content as always.
Excellent video. Really helped.
Thank u sir absolutely awesome
Does any know the name of the music playing in the background
ua-cam.com/video/E8Mf-1A6YtE/v-deo.html
@@juanjoseph2879 Thank you so much!
The analogy about the dog is hilarious
Brian, can I ask you a question? Do we have to forgive - and can we forgive - someone who wronged us and is not sorry: he or she simply does not care at all? Or can we - and must we - only forgive someone if he or she comes to us and offers us his or her apologies? This question has kept me busy since long time...
This video reflection might help: ua-cam.com/video/7OQHmg0KSPQ/v-deo.html
I greatly appreciate your videos. Jesus suffering was not only physical. He suffered so much more in his soul than in his body. He died in cross to open the closed heaven for us. Until Jesus died all good people where told to be in the " bossom of Abraham " In a place of waiting . Jesus paid the debt of "first sin" with his blood to open the closed paradise for us ,so that if follow his words , we can join him in paradise.
Outstanding
Great video! From a Protestant :)
Awesome video
amazing explanation!
To be in heaven, with God, is to live.
The price of sin is death (to be without God).
And those who die on a tree are cursed.
The significance of the dying upon the cross and resurrecting was that he defeated the curse and thus death. To defeat death is to defeat sin which means a reuniting with the father in heaven. It allows followers of God to inter into heaven (obtain eternal life).
The humility and suffering comes from it being the opposite of the sin. All sin originates with pride. With believing one can be like God. That they can live purely by their own will. Since sin entered the world by one attempting to lift themselves up to God's level, God had to lower Himself to our level in all humility and suffering.
What does God being omniscient have to do with anything?
The word became flesh means he became man. It is not saying that God's divine nature underwent a change, but rather that it formed a special union with a human nature. Forming a hypostasis between the divine and human nature of Jesus Christ. There is no mixing, confusion or over powering of one nature over the other. To say such is to fall into heresy. Such as to say he did not become a 'God man' is to deny either his humanity or his divinity. To deny either is to deny him completely.
so He wanted to have an empathy for our sufferings because he wouldnt be able to experience it as God. That's how He saved us?..
Jesus is the devil
Repent accept jahovah and do good works
what a blessing, praise God! 🤍
so you're saying that Jesus' death doesn't do much apart from teaching us that we have to be good people?
What is that beautiful music playing in the background?
ua-cam.com/video/E8Mf-1A6YtE/v-deo.html
Why did Jesus died on the cross? In Jesus name Amen Alleluia. Love in Christ from Jesus and Sylvia Nazareth.
Great video! I have so many questions, but my main one is this - do Catholics not believe in atonement theology (ie Jesus needing to die on the cross for our sins in order to pay our debt)? I know you talked about it in the video, just checking!
Yes, Catholics do believe in atonement. Paragraph 1992 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church says:
"Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men."
@@BrianHoldsworth Ok thank you!
@@BrianHoldsworth I was wondering if you could please make a video on Catholic parenting (specifically when and how you share the gospel with your children). I've heard a couple different philosophies from Catholic parents - some utilize evangelical Christian books and resources to share the gospel message with their young children, while others focus only on God's loving and merciful nature (without touching on the topic of humans' sinful nature or Original Sin) with their children until the age of seven, when they're ready for their first communion. My oldest child is almost 3, I just want to make sure that I'm raising her in a way where she is engaged the faith. Thanks!
@@lightgoldenlight I'll give it some thought, but in case I don't, here are some thoughts. We "evangelize" our children from day 1. Obviously, we aren't catechizing them in a formal way, but we immerse them in a Christian culture. Culture is embodied religion. It's the way of life that proceeds from a sincere faith in Jesus. In our case, that means, from the time they are babies, they are with us as a family when we are praying, singing, celebrating feast days, and going to mass. We don't send them away to a youth group or a "children's liturgy". They are with us participating to whatever degree they can. An example I like to share with people who ask us why we go to the Latin mass because the concern is that children won't understand what's going on. I reply by explaining, firstly, that children don't understand what's going on in English either. Most adults don't understand the sophisticated ecclesial vernacular. But what children do understand is kneeling, closing eyes, icons, singing, benediction, incense, candles, bells, oils, water, etc. One day we were at mass, and my 3 year old was restless, so I picked him up and he suddenly went still and noticed a plume of incense floating over us and catching the light of a window and he said, "prayers, prayers!", pointing at the smoke. Which is exactly what that is supposed to signify - our prayers rising to heaven as in Revelation 8:4. They have an intuitive appreciation for a sensory experience of the faith embodied in culture. This is why culture, true culture that expresses the true religion (not multi culture or secular culture) is essential to the acceptance of a creed. A creed of doctrines is not enough to form the personal relationship with those doctrines. For that, you need culture. And as they get older, they will have questions and opportunities for more formal formation in the creed itself, which we, of course, offer to them. I hope that helps.
@@BrianHoldsworth Yes, thank you so much! I really appreciate your response. I'm a recent revert to Christianity and my husband is agnostic, so I'm really trying to find ways to incorporate faith into our home. I have to say that one of the things that brought me back to my faith is remembering the beautiful ways that my grandparents incorporated Catholic faith into our home growing up. Thanks again for sharing!
Beautiful video, but I have a lot of questions. I have had some discussions with my priest about the idea that God has no potency, and the idea that God never changes yet God came down in the form of Jesus (seemingly a change at face value) and now seems to have a temporal difference where at one point He had no suffering (according to the video) and now does (Colossians 1:20 which seems to agree with your video).
This subject is so confusing, then of course (in contradiction to your video and possibly seemingly Colossians 1:20, Genesis 6:6 where God appears to be sad or suffer), even if God "takes a nature unto himself" it is still confusing, especially if through that nature He now has something He did not before (and he never changes).
Thank you, well said
Great insight Brian!
Wouldn't a more obvious explanation of the WHY of the death of Jesus be taken from the Jewish practice of sin offering? I've been going through this throughout Holy Week, and my opinion of the "mechanics" of our salvation point me back to Judaism, since all of this happened within a Jewish context, before being exported to us gentiles.
What translation is your 1 Cor 1:18? I believe you missed out “but us who are being saved...”. It makes a difference.
God incarnated so he can experience suffering? Can you help me understand this? Since God does not change, and cannot have a before and after he’s experience with suffering..
yes... god is out of time.. but in the incarnation hes in time.
john peters that doesn’t make any sense, God still has no before and after. Just because he entered time doesn’t mean he can defy his nature which is being immutability.
@@LoveLove-jk9kz when the Word of God took on flesh, the was truly man and truly God.. he had both. hypostatic union. in man he, became what he created. (thats all i have. ) it could take all night and day to go on.. one must be a believer 1st.. there is a God . that created and inter act's with what he created. it would take someone with a greater ability then mine to explain it. stay well .in this odd time we find ourselves in. 👍
God bless you
WOW. Just wow ❤
Wow very enriching
Yup. I like how Catholics essentially leave it at a mystery at the end of the day.
I don't understand either. Either that or it's just so hard to believe that sin had to be paid for in such a brutal manner. Death is understandable. The passover lamb, as far as I understand, had its neck slit simply and bled out. A faaaaar cry from what Jesus endured, the absolute agony and humiliation. Why???
But it is empowering to know our leader suffered, when we suffer. And that he overcame the worst, and so therefore so can we.
I loved that statement 🤧
Excellent!!!
I still dont get it
Why?
Jesus is the devil
Repent accept jahovah and do good works
Jesus is the devil
Repent accept jahovah and do good works
Exactly why I stopped believing in penal substitutionary atonement. Which wasn't popular in the church until 1 thousand years ago by Calvin and others. They made popular the idea of retribution, but the early church widely believed the gospel and God was restorative, not retributive. "Pray for those who persecute you, THEN you will be like your Father in Heaven"
Penal substitution is a poor interpretation portraying God as angry and self righteous.
Why were Adam and Eve kicked out? Cause God was an angry just Holy judge? No! It literally says in Genesis they were banished so they wouldn't then eat from the tree of life and stay in a state of shame and sin-consciousness forever. Sin was not something that offended God because he's holy, but because it attacked us. The cross was not a court case, but a rescue mission. The idea of penal substitutionary atonement wasn't made popular until a thousand years ago by Calvin and some others.
"For God so loved..."
Not "for God is wrath..."
Hi Brain, it still does not make sense, how would we become saints if God sacrifies himself? Do not you still sin even though you believed that Jesus died for you? so whats the point? God can directly forgive you because he is All forgiving All Loving. You just have to keep doing good and repent from your sins. “All the sons of Adam are sinners, but the best of sinners are those who repent often.”
Brian saw Bishop Barron´s video before posting this; he uses some similar ideas. God love you, Brian.
@Catholic Spaniard Do you also follow this guy?
@@mariab.774 Do birds fly?
@@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard Haha, so you follow every Catholic youtuber? That's great :) Happy Easter, by the way
@@mariab.774 I follow the best ones: Church Militant, Bishop Barron, Ascension Presents, Brian, Pattrick Coffin, Taylor Marshall, Remnant, Return to Tradition, etc. Feliz día de Resurrección, mujer; que no se diga que los españoles nos hablamos en inglés, lenguaje para caballos según el ilustre Carlos V.
@@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard Jaja, más que caballo, tú estás como una cabra :) Algunos de los canales que nombras no me gustan demasiado... Ya hablaremos algún día, si nos llegamos a ver. Un abrazo
Two things. What learning resources did you use for this video? Any specific books you might recommend. Also, what’s the name of the image you use at 6:19.
Great video. Thanks!
God bless you.
This is stunning
There is nothing we can do to repay Lord Jesus for what He had done for us...dieing for our sins.
Thank you