It is the best violin sonata and one of the greatest instrumental dialogues ever written. I bought a vynil in the 80s with Kremer and Argerich playing it. I even wanted to start learning violin because of this magnificent masterpiece. You can truly hear a conversation without words in it.
Me, too. It resurrected my interest in the violin after 40 years of not playing. It's a bit harder, but if I can play even 1/3 of this piece I will consider it a success.
Schumann wrote three sonatas for violin and piano, the third one having been discarded by Clara, Brahms and Joachim and exhumed recently. The first one op. 105 is in my opinion a masterwork, but Schumann seemed not to be happy with it, so he wrote this impressive second sonata in d minor. This sonata shows how stupid it is to despise the last compositions by Schumann, who was depressive and ill at that time. This sonata has the strength of the first opus of the composer. Indeed, this is one of the greatest sonatas for violn and piano ever written.
@@joshscores3360 I know, you can even hear a beatiful version of this sonata on "UA-cam", posted by Bartje Bartmans . This is why I wrote " the third one having been discarded by Clara, Brahms and Joachim and exhumed recently".
@@Piero1809 You are fully right. This trio is also an absolute masterwork. The whole chamber music of Schumann deserves to be known. It is a pity that most music lovers know only the piano quintet - indeed a masterpiece of the genre, the greatest one with Franck's. Listen to the piano quartet: it is also an absolute masterpiece, in my modest opinion greater than Brahms', and equal only to the two by Mozart and Fauré's second one op. 45.
An unusual performance of Schumann's best work. Some pauses thrown in, and a lot of dynamics thrown out, but still interesting. This composition above all of his, shows him as the compositional virtuoso he was.
Las sonatas para violín de Schumann son de un gran valor estético tienen un mensaje hacia lo alto del ser humano y me revelan el carácter suave y enérgico de este gran compositor
I can assure you that none of these three violin sonatas gets played much on our local classical music stations. Such stations have a bias against chamber music anyhow, it seems to me.
Mosaic Classics Maybe it is the other way around. Maybe devastation is the cause of true greatness. It's sad to think that genius requires sacrifice but that seems to be the case with many greats.
The opening to the second movement Scherzo is extremely Brahmsian, or should I say I see where Brahms got his inspiration for lively syncopated triplet figures (and penchant for unusual harmonic transitions.) The rich long lines that Brahms became known for are also seen in the contemplative third movement. (I notice these things well as I'm currently studying the Sonatansatz.). The more I hear of this piece, I'm actually kind of convinced this piece must have influenced Brahms for the finale in his own D minor sonata, the meter and resulting rhythm is totally different, but there are striking harmonic similarities. Dmin, E7 amaj cadence, pause then back to dmin then immediate B-flatmaj (this last change: d-min B-flat happens in the Scherzo of Brahms Famous B-flat piano concerto as well) Also there are the same abrupt pauses led to by dramatic harmonic changes seen throughout this finale especially, that are probably the single easiest way to ID a Brahms composition. Anyway, please, share this work to all your classical music appreciating friends, it is a masterpiece!! Edit: I just realized also, that playful figure in the last minute including the light piano accompaniment provides the same feel and effect as a similar figure at the close of Grieg's second violin sonata (composed 16 years later!) although in that piece the figure is triplets.
Marcos Vinicios Ribeiro yes, especially those runs from "9:06"- "9:13" in the violin, and the angular rhythm and harmony created by using the major 7ths in the piano there makes the music sound more like Astor Piazola, or improv between Grappelli and Rheinhardt than Schumann. I'm shocked this piece is not well known. It definitely stands on it's own with the 2 other great D minor violin sonatas (Brahms and Saint-Saens). I can't think of any others in the same key. Amazing writing, don't great things often come In threes, what's wrong with people this got snubbed for so long.
It is an ambiguous situation, because from a pure analysis, it does not end with an inverted harmony: the D in the bass from the first and second beats sustains through with the pedal. You might say that he is thinking orchestrally--the basses and cellos and bassoons are holding that low D, while another chunk of the orchestra plays the "inverted" chord above it. However, you are right in observing that in real time, it can be difficult to ascertain this distinction. Because the low D will already be decaying in sound (even with the pedal), it will sound as though the piece suddenly finishes with an inverted harmony, even if it actually isn't. You might say it's the difference between a harmony and a sonority: strictly speaking, the piece ends with a HARMONY that is a tonic in root position (conventional), but at the same time ends with a SONORITY that suggests a tonic in second inversion (unconventional). Yet another of the million fascinating things about Schumann's visionary approach to composition.
Excellent performance and a seriously underrated violin sonata; however, I have just one thing to complain about. In the third movement, the pizzicatos are way too separated. Not separated as in not legato, but the notes of one chord are not plucked in unison, creating no harmony and making it sound not beautiful at all.
Well, you can love this sonata and dislike the pianist's performance - especially in the first movement. I wouldn't call it stupid, then. That being said, being a Schumann interpret's being so damn hard - he has such a specific style - that I wouldn't dislike it, just for that reason. Plus the violinist's renders well the intimate style of Schumann's chamber music, so it kinda compensates. But agreeing with you on the fact that this sonata is absolutely gorgeous !
This is a very strange interpretation of this masterpiece, with totally wrong phrasing and peculiar accents which sounds very unmusical! Both violinsonates of Schumann are the work of a genius. The best ever recording on disc of both sonates are with Christian Ferras and Pierre Barbizet on DG. These accounts were never surpassed and the only one who got out the ' Leidenschaft', which belongs to Schumann. I would also like to mention for the first sonata Perlman and Argerich on EMI.
I upload works which are available to me. If I for every single one of my 2000 videos have to search for the "best" performance my channel wouldn't exist. Some recordings are eccentric and a bit off the beaten path which also has appeal to me. BTW there are plenty of videos I think are in a league by themselves but you can bet on it some won't like them. Thanks for you comment though, I especially love Ferras performance of Sibelius Violin Concerto I was thinking about that for a near future project.
@@marensavino -- No reason. This happens every time that Mahler Maniac starts breaking his Prozacs in half....he starts to suppurate with gratuitous malice......
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It is the best violin sonata and one of the greatest instrumental dialogues ever written. I bought a vynil in the 80s with Kremer and Argerich playing it. I even wanted to start learning violin because of this magnificent masterpiece. You can truly hear a conversation without words in it.
Me, too. It resurrected my interest in the violin after 40 years of not playing. It's a bit harder, but if I can play even 1/3 of this piece I will consider it a success.
Schumann wrote three sonatas for violin and piano, the third one having been discarded by Clara, Brahms and Joachim and exhumed recently. The first one op. 105 is in my opinion a masterwork, but Schumann seemed not to be happy with it, so he wrote this impressive second sonata in d minor. This sonata shows how stupid it is to despise the last compositions by Schumann, who was depressive and ill at that time. This sonata has the strength of the first opus of the composer. Indeed, this is one of the greatest sonatas for violn and piano ever written.
No, the 3rd violin sonata (woo 2) still survives.
Thanks for fixing
I totally agree with you. The first movement is extraordinary and resembles that of the first trio opus 63.
@@joshscores3360 I know, you can even hear a beatiful version of this sonata on "UA-cam", posted by Bartje Bartmans . This is why I wrote " the third one having been discarded by Clara, Brahms and Joachim and exhumed recently".
@@Piero1809 You are fully right. This trio is also an absolute masterwork. The whole chamber music of Schumann deserves to be known. It is a pity that most music lovers know only the piano quintet - indeed a masterpiece of the genre, the greatest one with Franck's. Listen to the piano quartet: it is also an absolute masterpiece, in my modest opinion greater than Brahms', and equal only to the two by Mozart and Fauré's second one op. 45.
First time listening to this. Amazing.
Thank you.
Schumann's best composition, showing him as a muscle-flexing compositional virtuoso.
Bartmans does the best performance I have heard of the Third and I think now of the Second also. Truly wonderful.
Great work and performance! I particularly love the third movement.
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An unusual performance of Schumann's best work. Some pauses thrown in, and a lot of dynamics thrown out, but still interesting. This composition above all of his, shows him as the compositional virtuoso he was.
9:04 Anyone else getting Piazzolla vibes from this?
You ruined the whole thing for me!
Is it a common chord progression that many composers use?
Las sonatas para violín de Schumann son de un gran valor estético tienen un mensaje hacia lo alto del ser humano y me revelan el carácter suave y enérgico de este gran compositor
Completamente de acuerdo
가을의 끝에서 봄 햇살을 만나는 느낌!
참 좋다.
I can assure you that none of these three violin sonatas gets played much on our local classical music stations. Such stations have a bias against chamber music anyhow, it seems to me.
i heard this just this evening on KBACH in Phoenix AZ...a great station...you can listen online...
Thanks for the tip :)
No había tenido la oportunidad de escuchar es una genialidad..
Exacto, una genialidad
Desde que fuí al conciertode aspiracion de Schumann esta sonata me pareció EXTRAORDINARIA
Passionate! So this was written near the end of his life. Why are the true greats subject to such devastation?
Mosaic Classics Maybe it is the other way around. Maybe devastation is the cause of true greatness. It's sad to think that genius requires sacrifice but that seems to be the case with many greats.
Will Ravel take inspiration for his Blues from Schumann’s third movement of this sonata? (17:41)
Ravel’s second violin sonata link: ua-cam.com/video/OFbffshku0k/v-deo.html
Go to 7:57 of the Ravel, to compare
I think Ravel probably was just inspired by actual blues guitar, but it's a cool coincidence since it's the exact same voicing and in the same key!
Splendid performance ! Thank you so much :)
Thanks so much for posting; really wonderful stuff!
Thanks for uploading!
Can someone tell me why they are playing a D sharp at 15:10?
The opening to the second movement Scherzo is extremely Brahmsian, or should I say I see where Brahms got his inspiration for lively syncopated triplet figures (and penchant for unusual harmonic transitions.) The rich long lines that Brahms became known for are also seen in the contemplative third movement. (I notice these things well as I'm currently studying the Sonatansatz.). The more I hear of this piece, I'm actually kind of convinced this piece must have influenced Brahms for the finale in his own D minor sonata, the meter and resulting rhythm is totally different, but there are striking harmonic similarities. Dmin, E7 amaj cadence, pause then back to dmin then immediate B-flatmaj (this last change: d-min B-flat happens in the Scherzo of Brahms Famous B-flat piano concerto as well)
Also there are the same abrupt pauses led to by dramatic harmonic changes seen throughout this finale especially, that are probably the single easiest way to ID a Brahms composition.
Anyway, please, share this work to all your classical music appreciating friends, it is a masterpiece!!
Edit: I just realized also, that playful figure in the last minute including the light piano accompaniment provides the same feel and effect as a similar figure at the close of Grieg's second violin sonata (composed 16 years later!) although in that piece the figure is triplets.
Actually, the work this piece influenced the Op. 60, a work which, by the way, also shows Brahms as a compositional virtuoso.
I'd never heard this sonata, it's full of mesmerizing melodies!
Are you sure?
8:21 - 10:27...Schumann invented the TANGO, In the first movement !!!!
Marcos Vinicios Ribeiro yes, especially those runs from "9:06"- "9:13" in the violin, and the angular rhythm and harmony created by using the major 7ths in the piano there makes the music sound more like Astor Piazola, or improv between Grappelli and Rheinhardt than Schumann. I'm shocked this piece is not well known. It definitely stands on it's own with the 2 other great D minor violin sonatas (Brahms and Saint-Saens). I can't think of any others in the same key. Amazing writing, don't great things often come In threes, what's wrong with people this got snubbed for so long.
Interesting that the piece ends on a suspended chord, how often is that found in music from this time?
EDIT: Meant inverted chord
It doesn't, but it does end on a chord in second inversion, which is indeed unusual.
The D bass is obviously held with the pedal
@@hghg2185 I'm talking from a musical standpoint, not technical
ThaSchwab musically, the D remains. Schumann had notoriously written things that weren’t always logical but in his head made sense.
It is an ambiguous situation, because from a pure analysis, it does not end with an inverted harmony: the D in the bass from the first and second beats sustains through with the pedal. You might say that he is thinking orchestrally--the basses and cellos and bassoons are holding that low D, while another chunk of the orchestra plays the "inverted" chord above it.
However, you are right in observing that in real time, it can be difficult to ascertain this distinction. Because the low D will already be decaying in sound (even with the pedal), it will sound as though the piece suddenly finishes with an inverted harmony, even if it actually isn't. You might say it's the difference between a harmony and a sonority: strictly speaking, the piece ends with a HARMONY that is a tonic in root position (conventional), but at the same time ends with a SONORITY that suggests a tonic in second inversion (unconventional). Yet another of the million fascinating things about Schumann's visionary approach to composition.
The best.
love it
en suivant la partition j'ai Impression de savoir jouer du violon
et avec quel brio!
Bellísimo!!
Excellent performance and a seriously underrated violin sonata; however, I have just one thing to complain about. In the third movement, the pizzicatos are way too separated. Not separated as in not legato, but the notes of one chord are not plucked in unison, creating no harmony and making it sound not beautiful at all.
Which pizzicatos?
Sol Kim "Separated" = arpeggiated. Mandolin style. A legitimate choice, if not to everyone's taste. 😊
Very Well!!!!!Schumann is fantastic!!!Who dislikes this sonata is a stupid
Well, you can love this sonata and dislike the pianist's performance - especially in the first movement. I wouldn't call it stupid, then. That being said, being a Schumann interpret's being so damn hard - he has such a specific style - that I wouldn't dislike it, just for that reason.
Plus the violinist's renders well the intimate style of Schumann's chamber music, so it kinda compensates. But agreeing with you on the fact that this sonata is absolutely gorgeous !
well said
How can you put ads in this video?
UA-cam puts those in. Not me. How could I, I don't own the copyright obviously.
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Variations on selected works by Brahms :)
14:05 - Tchaikovsky
By the way, try the Faust perforrmance.
좋다..
This is a very strange interpretation of this masterpiece, with totally wrong phrasing and peculiar accents which sounds very unmusical! Both violinsonates of Schumann are the work of a genius.
The best ever recording on disc of both sonates are with Christian Ferras and Pierre Barbizet on DG. These accounts were never surpassed and the only one who got out the ' Leidenschaft', which belongs to Schumann. I would also like to mention for the first sonata Perlman and Argerich on EMI.
I upload works which are available to me. If I for every single one of my 2000 videos have to search for the "best" performance my channel wouldn't exist. Some recordings are eccentric and a bit off the beaten path which also has appeal to me. BTW there are plenty of videos I think are in a league by themselves but you can bet on it some won't like them. Thanks for you comment though, I especially love Ferras performance of Sibelius Violin Concerto I was thinking about that for a near future project.
@@bartjebartmans Thanks for the very sympathetic reaction !
"Pretty slow"? That's played very fast!
unsatisfactory & lament of Schumann
@@marensavino -- No reason. This happens every time that Mahler Maniac starts breaking his Prozacs in half....he starts to suppurate with gratuitous malice......
Don't criticize Mahler! He admired Chabrier!
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