For any given jetbrains IDE product you can "rent" he software per a monthly basis and if you paid for a year, you'll own the license version of the software you started to pay for it. You also can pay it once. The "yearly" license that is promoted and getting lower till the third year, is for the customer to get updates and upgrades. Which in return finances the development of the products. You don't have to buy every year a new license. If you're happy with the version you got, you don't need to pay for another.
Personally I prefer VS Code but at work I have the benefit of a PHP Storm license (a JetBrains product) and I can say that it also has its charm. For minor changes I work with Code and for something bigger with Storm.
Webstorm basically is a web-focused version of IntelliJ IDE which has been sold by Jetbrains since 2001. Therefore Webstorm has 15 year head start not 5.
I'd love Ania to redo that Webstorm vid after using it for another few months @purpleo1 - the longer you use it the more you uncover little features and the better it gets.
@@harag9 better intellisense and auto-completion, better debugging and testing tools using run configurations, organizing project files in scopes (very handy in large projects where it's easy to get lost in a lot of files and directories), better built-in version control tools that allow devs to analyze and optimize code before committing also provides a nice interface for resolving merge conflicts and more, database integration and intellisense for database tables, functions and everything.
@@harag9 webstorm specifically is about 6 USD / month, but it also offeres a 1 month TRIAL. In Hong Kong, that's the price of 1, mediocre lunch and in Hungary, the price of 3, simple lunches maybe. I think the best is to try it for yourself. My favorite feature is still the version control interface, especially the 3 way merge. The downside is the memory usage, which can be 2-3 times more than VC Code, so the real (initial) cost is RAM cost, unless you want to put up with laggy input and 10-20sec startup times. And putting up with that might still worth it, in exchange for so many features being conveniently included and configured.
I'm really glad you went into this. I started with Sublime, switched to IDEA when I was learning Java, and then tried WebStorm back in 2019 and have loved it ever since. I prefer it to VS Code, not because I think it's better, but because it's what I know. Great video brother.
Great job. I’ve been on webstorm and remember it’s first iteration. Vs code reminds me of that very much. People also forget the reason webstorm has a lot of features is because they where first extensions that got backed in over time as new releases happen. Great video. Either way you look at it it’s awesome to have the options we have now compared to way back when. Great job.
I absolutely love WebStorm because of the classic UI which I greatly prefer over the minimalist VS Code UI. Another fantastic feature of WebStorm - all JetBrains products really - is GIT integration. The UI for GIT operations, especially comparing and cherry picking certain lines of code to commit/not commit is unmatched. I haven't found a plugin for VS Code that does it so well. Not even Visual Studio (the full product) has as good a UI for GIT. Yes I know many (most?) developers use GIT only from the command line, but I prefer a GUI. I don't find WebStorm too expensive at all. Its only 60 in the first year. The second you get 20% off and the third and onwards 40% off. Of course all the best to you anyone who uses and loves VS Code. I don't see why you need to explain yourself. Ultimately its just a matter of preference.
You can also buy EDU accs and get 1 year for 10$ if you use it personally. But I trashed Webstorm because it has issues with MongoSB showing a lot of errors.
I stand with you. I also use WebStorm and don't find it too expensive. I have already saved my amount for my next subscription on Jan 23 for one year. And WebStrom is damn powerful for JavaScript developer that no text editor can be compared. However for small projects I use vscode also. But for larger projects I always prefer WebStorm.
Man! I normally feel so alone in the same sentiment. Everyone wants to use git from the terminal and it's like they're totally missing out on this crazy powerful ability to make single line atomic commits within a file that has a lot of changes, one by one. The git integration with JetBrains IDEs is insanely powerful and it feels like no one ever uses it. I even show people that it's possible and it's like they don't believe it so they revert back to committing entire files in a single commit and writing absolute garbage commit messages because they can't describe everything in a single commit. I love git from the terminal, and most GUI git experiences are total garbage admittedly, but the JetBrains GUI git functionality is like from a different planet of advanced aliens in comparison. I am hyper productive and cleaner using git through their GUI. I don't think it's a matter of preference though. I believe it's a matter of temperament towards finding and utilizing elite level precision tools and decision making.
I like both and use both, and quite likely to keep using both. IMO (and it is only an opinion) Webstorm does 3 basic things much better, which are auto import, code errors and suggestions. All seem considerably better than VSCode counterparts. It is not that VSCode doesn't do all of those but is it just overall better in Webstorm. However, VSCode is far quicker (never seems to bog down), I prefer the Git integration with a couple of extensions, it is infinitely more customisable, and generally feels more familiar (re sorta Microsoft-ish). Both produce code and it is the end result that matters.
VS Code is great lightweight and super customizable, but I do programming for a living and I find IntelliJ to be professional tools, I have no problem paying for them as they are supported and work out of the box, no brainer investment, well worth the money.
4:35 Webstorm is basically IntelliJ IDE with some plugins. And IntelliJ IDE has been there for like 20 years. It's arguably the best IDE for Java. It's from Jetbrains, they make good IDEs for many languages. And Jetbrains open-sourced some parts of IntelliJ IDE, which Microsoft took and built on it VsCode
VSCode and Webstorm is like React and Angular! Angular is a full featured framework rather React is a Library that has a ecosystem very rich that turn it into a framework.
I use both WebStorm and VSCode. When working on large projects, I prefer WebStorm; for smaller projects or single files, I opt for VSCode. VSCode can be compared to the Android OS-an open-source software that offers configurability but tends to be less optimized, resulting in a lack of advanced features and power. In contrast, WebStorm resembles iOS, where everything is tightly integrated and curated for an optimal out-of-the-box experience. Much like the seamless integration between iOS and iPhone hardware, WebStorm achieves a high level of optimization and developer experience by tightly coupling its diverse features. This level of integration is challenging to achieve in VSCode, given that its plugins lack tight cohesion. A notable example is the robust code refactoring features available in WebStorm across all supported languages. While it's true that WebStorm is a paid product, the comparison can be made with the costlier nature of devices running iOS compared to their Android counterparts. Many individuals are willing to invest extra for a superior experience.
Just only refactoring pays for the WS licence, making it cheaper than the free VSC. It's the perfect example that price and cost are not the same thing. That's for professional developers/projects where *time is money*. For simpler projects or beginner developers, VSC with its spectacular extensions eco system is the logical option.
I was laughing my ass off when he said that not many developers can afford 60 bucks a year for an IDE. Yet people find money to go to the movies and buy stuff from the concession stand. Maybe he would have a point for students but Jetbrain probably gives discounted licenses for them. And... some developers actually have employers.
I just wanted to point out you guys that as an university’s student, you can apply for a free license with all functionality that the ide Webstorm gives in the pay version.
As someone who has been using IntelliJ IDEA (superset of WebStorm) for about 4 years now, I find myself most productive in the IDE when starting a new project. The Git integration is amazing, the file watchers for Sass, Less, Typescript or any other pre-processor makes it super easy for me to get coding features rather than setting up a task runner. Plus the access to documentation from within the IDE is one thing that I just can't live without. Yes VS Code can do all the above but I always find myself using VS Code for quick edits to 1 or 2 files rather than use it for the entire project. That being said they are both tools and which one is better is entirely dependent on one's use case.
I tried using Webstorm over a three month period and whilst I liked a lot of its features but it was riddled with bugs and invalidating my cache every few minutes just became to tedious so I'm back with VS Code now.
I am working on the NUXT js app and I cant get class autocompete in VS code. Am PHP dev in first place and am using PHP sotrm. In PHP storm its just pleasure to work... So if someone can help with my problem please share your knowledge, cause I tweaked VS code to work almost the same as PHP storm 'form my use', only the problem with class autocomplete doesn't work, and I don't know how to solve it...
I like both! I used VSCode for years as my primary editor and as of last year i switch between the two. They're both great. Webworm is just ready to go out of the box and had so many great features that were have to set up in VSCode. There's pros and cons for each. For me it's like trying to choose which child is the best. Imo, you simply can't because their different and great in their own ways.
What about project indexing and full project-wide refactoring with vs code? Don't think that comes as an extension. And when you've installed all these extensions, you're already halfway there to an IDE, but it's still never going to be an IDE with the features that make an IDE, well, an IDE, and plus the fact that now all these random extensions can break each other.
I use both VSCode and WS. The only thing that makes me switch back to WS is the tests, seriously. I couldn't find good extensions to run tests, if I use VSCode I usually run them using terminal. However if I need to debug a test case - only WS can save me. I'm sure there is a way to do that somehow, but it requires setup, while in WS you only need to press button. Other than that I would be perfectly fine to use only VSCode.
Never even heard of Webstorm. With the SFTP extension and key commands like cmd + P to search for any file, VSCode is as good as it can possibly get for web dev.
I have problem with Docker Node.js debugging under VS Code, and at the same time under the WebStorm debugging works as expected just out of the box! Without any tricky settings. With VS Code I couldn't setup that debugging even after investigation during many hours.
VSCode is absolutely fantastic. I use it for 80% of all time and for smaller projects. However, in a really massive project, Web Storm can offer unique advantages. What VSCode lacks is the refactoring abilities of Webstorm. Aside from this, there are thousands of extensions that transform vscode into webstorm.
I was wondering if there are some extension which can improve vscode indexing. And the other thing I'm having trouble with is that when I try to search in vscode it doesn't look inside my submodule. Can I fix that with the search configs
The problem with the "it has everything I need", or "it just works for me" model of thinking, is that you tend not to know what other capabilities exists which you don't have with your current tools. If you limit your maximum exposure to tools, then you aren't likely to ve exposed to things that would make you work better. It's better to have a garage full of specialty tools that you might never use, than to have a small toolkit that will restrict keep the scope of your output. This to me is what separates the professionals from the amateurs and hobbiests.
My question is, what is it about Webstorm that justifies the $60 per year price tag? Other than you're already a longtime user and are more used to it, that is.
Vastly prefer the VS Code expand-as-needed 'model'. (I do lament, somewhat, that Sublime Text was so quickly eclipsed; that was a HUGE step forward. Standing on the former giants.)
I just love JetBrains products bought an all product license mostly because it's a pain whenever i have to get out of the ecosystem also i like having different editors for different programming languages , gives me a sort of structure and separation frontend from backend and such things.
Used webstorm with angular for 3 years and PC performance with big projects was bad, I decided to give vscode a try 2 months ago and after finding all the extensions to match webstorm, I uninstalled webstorm.
That in itself is a problem - 50 million extenstions. Do I have time to find the right one? Give me no-brainer out of the box functionality by default every time.
@@PaulGrossmanTheDarkArtsWizard it depends on your tolerance. Our work laptops are top of the line hardware and with the security software that runs on it, it makes it clunky and slow. Using webstorm will make you pull your hair out if you have any hair left. It took me a couple of hours to find all the extensions needed, I use vscode mainly for angular development. I have been using vscode happily for the past 8 months and I don't see myself ever going back to webstorm even on my personal PC.
They'll get you with feature updates too :) As a subscriber you get to enjoy all the new features as they are released but when your subscription runs out, the perpetual licensed version is not for the version you ended with, it is the version you started with.
Integrated means those custom extensions you put yourself together in vscode are working, tested and managed together by default in webstorm. Webstorm identifies needs, problems, optimizations, etc right out of the bat. I have become a better engineer because of webstorm, particularly because it showed me what tools I was missing for better productivity....you can replicate those in vscode if you know about them, but eventually vscode will run slower and buggier.
Great video! I'm surprised this stuff needs to be said though 🤔 A text editor/IDE is a tool... ultimately all that really matters is that it gets the job done
For me it depends on the developer what they should use, for example not all developers out there have a decent PC. some might still be using low end PC and in terms of performance I'll choose VS Code (If you're a low budget developer) because it is lightweight than Webstorm.
I swear people are going to have full on battles over what they drive, like some do in Austrailia. James, I am sorry that people forced you to put a disclaimer out there. Stay strong dude 💪😂
Codes have had battles over the crazy thins over the years... e.g. Spaces vs Tabs.... even with todays IDEs we still have battles over this when it's not needed.
Considering the steep price of Web Storm, organizations probably would not be willing to pay for it if the same things could be achieved using a free alternative.
VSCode for me. I really like to customize my VSCode according to my needs. Sure, an IDE probably has all the functionallity that I want (and don't want), but I really like to have the tools I need.
100% Personal Preference. I use WebStorm and Rider as my daily drivers at work but most of the Front End Devs at my work use VS Code. I also use VS Code but just as a "text editor" when I want to have some JSON model I need to work with. I also use VS Code to keep track of where I'm at in my current project / ticket with it's todo extension for .md files.
Can't beat the price of VS Code, but with great inexpensivisity (wait, is that a word?) comes great complexity. I've got weirdness with line breaks that I just live with rather than trying to first figure out which extension is causing that, and then having to figure out how to properly modify the JSON file to make it go away without causing a whole slew of other issues.
I prefer VS Code personally. Coming from many years of using Visual Studio, Webstorm and Eclipse, I’d say VS Code is extremely fast and much more customizable. In certain areas even better
For whatever reason, IJ Idea/Webstorm are faster in corporate environment, including auto imports. I do JS projects in Vscode and java projects should be done in IJ, not to mention vendor lock in language (sort of) for Kotlin :)
The hardest part of this all is different keymaps or key bindings (whatever it's called). It takes time to get used to new keyboard shortcuts. Some people advise to learn Vim and use Vim plugin on every new IDE I use. Which also takes time.
Well I use the paid intellij ide which includes all the webstorm stuff plus let's me develop java, SQL, has server hooks ...... Basically I'm a contractor and have been for almost 20yrs and there is no contest. If your doing small projects then VS is probably ok but for anything professional well errrr it's a no brainer.
Webstorm is only $60 the first year. The second it's $48 and $36 for the third and subsequent years. That's only expensive it you're living in a cardboard box.
Isn't WebStorm focused on (limited to?) a subset of "web" (JavaScript) languages, whereas VSCode is potentially for any language (given the right extensions)? WebStorm appears to be £99 in the UK (first year), reducing to £59 only after 3 years - is this a similar price structure to the US, or is it just more expensive in the UK? (£59 is $80+ anyway.)
"People who think WebStorm is the only decision, and VS Code is inteferior, 14m other people might disagree with you." If WebStorm was free, that number would say very different things. You cannot compare a free product to a paid product in terms of user counts.
I have three friends who are web developers. They told me they really rarely do any new projects when it comes to enterprise apps it's mostly implementing newer features as well as refactoring code so vscode is mostly out of the picture. Imagine having hundreds of components and having to refactor all that with a text editor not saying can't be done with dedicated extensions but webstorm, rider does this out of the box. I'm really new and just getting my feet wet with web development having used vscode on and off and webstorm for two days I kind of like WS just needed to create a few live templates since I like how vscode just perfectly spits out html tags. I actually spend less time fucking with getting things set up in WS than in vsc. I can get straight to learning
Pretty good explanation. Do you know about some VS Code extension that can let you navigate through the source code of a referenced npm package? Thanks in advance
I like to use webStorm at work because I get a free license. I am so used to it after 5 years use, especially the search functionality, it just seems much more intuitive to me. At home I use vs Code, I don't think it's worth buying a license.
I've also been a great fan of VS Code. It does everything that a developer requires, and too in a highly configurable way. The reason why came to this video, is because for last few months, I've been facing performance issues with VS Code on my MacBook Pro M2. Sometimes it feels like Microsoft just wants developers to switch to Microsoft with their VS Code, GitHub etc. being the primary options for majority of developers/orgs. 😄 Jokes apart, I'm really curios to know the alternatives for VS Code, and so far I've found none with he same set of features and freedom. I'm thinking to try my hands on this new "Zed" which is open source and is only available for MacOS but it's far away in terms of matching the capabilities of VS Code. I just need a performance rich code editor for now.
I have every product from jetbrains all in one bundle, personally I use vs code if I’m going to make a large project and I’ll use vs code for small projects and editing a html document, same thing for rubymine and phpstorm.
100K coming soon😊 Great explanation. I have worked on both & "I" prefer VS Code for my personal work. If my project & teammates requires me to work on some editor/IDE then I switch & work on that because of some requirements. Editor/IDE is a medium for us to write better code. Just like shoes (Nike/Asics/Adidas/Others) for walking **Bad Analogy I know**
i am using VScode for a typescript project. when i am refactoring the project typescript server or VScode is very slow. type inference are loading for 5-10 seconds ,also errors are not loading quickly. how to solve this issue?
I really like VS code and would choose it any day over Webstorm if I had to pay for Webstorm myself. But in my new job I have Webstorm available and I really like the git tool that is integrated. The git tool integrated in VS code, I believe isn't as good.
The problem is webstorm offers only a free trial which is not applicable for all developers who want to use it that's why they love vscode because its free and have good extensions
I never used Webstorm, but I could say that PHPStorm is better for PHP than VS Code. VS Code is great, but PHPStorm is better. I can imagine that the same goes for Webstorm vs VS Code. People from JetBrains know what they're doing.
I agree with most of what is said in this video. However VS Code is not really new -- its ancestor is the old Microsoft Visual Studio IDE which I remember using more than 20 years ago. I definitely consider VS Code to be an IDE. However, it is language-agnostic, so a lot of language-specific features aren't available without extension. This is a strength rather than a weakness. The criticism that "VS Code is not an IDE" doesn't really seem fair.
I feel like most people (myself included) dislike VS Code because it forces a coder to learn the things they don't have to with an IDE. So much of what an IDE does in the background (abstract to the programmer) is taken for granted. Anyone learning to code is robbing themselves of invaluable skills simply by using an IDE to learn to code.
@James Q Quick , when you have to deal with the ones talking smack, just remember this one fact, and think about how they really don't know what they are talking about, because of the SIMPLE fact that one is an IDE & the other is a TEXT/CODE EDITOR lol It's like comparing a 4 CYL Toyota Corolla to a 12 CYL Corvette lolol. Those of us that know what we are doing, know which one to use and when to use it. Good grief tell them to GO FIND AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT AND GIVEBACK TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THAT MAGICAL IDE OR TEXT/CODE EDITOR OF THEIRS INSTEAD OF WASTING YOUR TIME lolol.. Thank you for everything James, You're much appreciated in the community ;-)
I used to use PhpStorm for anything Webdev-ish (got a free university license, so the price tag wasn't an issue 😁) and while it's great and XDebug integration is good as well (and JetBrains IDEs kick ass in general), it's missing one critical feature for me VScode has - editing files directly via SSH. Yes, it _can_ be done, but it's way too quirky and error-prone for my taste (context menu, "edit remote file", blah, re-upload to host, blah blah...). In VScode, I can simply connect to a remote server via SSH (or to a WSL2 instance on my local machine), open a folder there and that's it. No need to synchronize anything, and if you frequently change between machines (desktop and notebook), it's a dream. Extensions like Intelephense, Vetur, ESlint, Python, Laravel Blade, npm, etc. get installed on the server by the VScode server component (sets itself up automatically) and if you switch to another machine, it's all still there and ready to go. No more being in the shit because I messed up the sync process somewhere. 😁 Now I use VScode for practically anything (JS, HTML, (S)CSS, PHP, Python), except for C# (Rider, Visual Studio) or C/C++ (Visual Studio). For quickly editing files I use Sublime Text though, because it's very snappy and loads instantly. And of course good ol' Vim under Linux. :wq!
I use vscode when I’m coding for a decent amount of time so I can take full advantage of all the features that I customized to my liking. If I need to make a quick fix I’ll use vim since it’s so fast.
I have used VS Code for 3years now and I must say it's only transforming for the better, and I feel bad when people shun it down. And actually, on system resources, VS Code is damn light yet powerful. You'd rather use VS Code on an old machine than WebStorm. The power of VS Code is in the hands of the user. I don't see much of a difference between the two apart from IDE vs code editor. VS Code handles all my needs and I use it mostly. So I agree.
I use both of them. i prefer vscode more than webstorm. I think vscode is much smoother than webstorm and you get a good feeling when coding in vscode than webstorm.
One thing I don't like about VS Code is its lack of support for SASS (indented version). Even with plugins it's difficult to get the same level of intellisense VS code give SCSS out of the box. Where webstorm support for scss and sass is great, even providing class code hints in the html even with nested class names. Never really was a big fan of VS Code, I enjoyed Atom's development experience more until I started having performance issues with the software and had to switch to VS Code. One thing VS code gets right is Javascript. I mainly opt to use them for projects that are purely Javascript or that I'm not using any sass for.
I like VS code. As you mentioned, on most of the web programming courses or tutorials, you would likely find VS code. I don't wanna pay for a course and then again pay for an IDE to continue with that course!
I love open source projects. I've tried other editors and IDEs and vscode seems the coolest free editor out there. Been using it on my linux machine for flutter and web dev and I never had any problems. I always recommend it to my friends
For any given jetbrains IDE product you can "rent" he software per a monthly basis and if you paid for a year, you'll own the license version of the software you started to pay for it. You also can pay it once. The "yearly" license that is promoted and getting lower till the third year, is for the customer to get updates and upgrades. Which in return finances the development of the products. You don't have to buy every year a new license. If you're happy with the version you got, you don't need to pay for another.
Personally I prefer VS Code but at work I have the benefit of a PHP Storm license (a JetBrains product) and I can say that it also has its charm. For minor changes I work with Code and for something bigger with Storm.
Webstorm basically is a web-focused version of IntelliJ IDE which has been sold by Jetbrains since 2001. Therefore Webstorm has 15 year head start not 5.
❤️ webstorm
i watched that webstorm video of yours too lol
I'd love Ania to redo that Webstorm vid after using it for another few months @purpleo1 - the longer you use it the more you uncover little features and the better it gets.
Cause your sponsored lol
My team leader always said how wonderful his paid webstorm is compared to my free vscode :))))))
haha whatever works!
I think it's all team lead thing 🤭
But has your team leader said WHY it's wonderful compared to VSCode? What makes it worth $60 a year.
@@harag9 better intellisense and auto-completion, better debugging and testing tools using run configurations, organizing project files in scopes (very handy in large projects where it's easy to get lost in a lot of files and directories), better built-in version control tools that allow devs to analyze and optimize code before committing also provides a nice interface for resolving merge conflicts and more, database integration and intellisense for database tables, functions and everything.
@@harag9 webstorm specifically is about 6 USD / month, but it also offeres a 1 month TRIAL.
In Hong Kong, that's the price of 1, mediocre lunch and in Hungary, the price of 3, simple lunches maybe.
I think the best is to try it for yourself.
My favorite feature is still the version control interface, especially the 3 way merge.
The downside is the memory usage, which can be 2-3 times more than VC Code, so the real (initial) cost is RAM cost, unless you want to put up with laggy input and 10-20sec startup times. And putting up with that might still worth it, in exchange for so many features being conveniently included and configured.
I'm really glad you went into this.
I started with Sublime, switched to IDEA when I was learning Java, and then tried WebStorm back in 2019 and have loved it ever since.
I prefer it to VS Code, not because I think it's better, but because it's what I know.
Great video brother.
Great job. I’ve been on webstorm and remember it’s first iteration. Vs code reminds me of that very much. People also forget the reason webstorm has a lot of features is because they where first extensions that got backed in over time as new releases happen. Great video. Either way you look at it it’s awesome to have the options we have now compared to way back when. Great job.
I absolutely love WebStorm because of the classic UI which I greatly prefer over the minimalist VS Code UI. Another fantastic feature of WebStorm - all JetBrains products really - is GIT integration. The UI for GIT operations, especially comparing and cherry picking certain lines of code to commit/not commit is unmatched. I haven't found a plugin for VS Code that does it so well. Not even Visual Studio (the full product) has as good a UI for GIT. Yes I know many (most?) developers use GIT only from the command line, but I prefer a GUI.
I don't find WebStorm too expensive at all. Its only 60 in the first year. The second you get 20% off and the third and onwards 40% off.
Of course all the best to you anyone who uses and loves VS Code. I don't see why you need to explain yourself. Ultimately its just a matter of preference.
You can also buy EDU accs and get 1 year for 10$ if you use it personally. But I trashed Webstorm because it has issues with MongoSB showing a lot of errors.
I stand with you. I also use WebStorm and don't find it too expensive. I have already saved my amount for my next subscription on Jan 23 for one year. And WebStrom is damn powerful for JavaScript developer that no text editor can be compared. However for small projects I use vscode also. But for larger projects I always prefer WebStorm.
Man! I normally feel so alone in the same sentiment. Everyone wants to use git from the terminal and it's like they're totally missing out on this crazy powerful ability to make single line atomic commits within a file that has a lot of changes, one by one. The git integration with JetBrains IDEs is insanely powerful and it feels like no one ever uses it. I even show people that it's possible and it's like they don't believe it so they revert back to committing entire files in a single commit and writing absolute garbage commit messages because they can't describe everything in a single commit.
I love git from the terminal, and most GUI git experiences are total garbage admittedly, but the JetBrains GUI git functionality is like from a different planet of advanced aliens in comparison. I am hyper productive and cleaner using git through their GUI.
I don't think it's a matter of preference though. I believe it's a matter of temperament towards finding and utilizing elite level precision tools and decision making.
I like both and use both, and quite likely to keep using both. IMO (and it is only an opinion) Webstorm does 3 basic things much better, which are auto import, code errors and suggestions. All seem considerably better than VSCode counterparts. It is not that VSCode doesn't do all of those but is it just overall better in Webstorm. However, VSCode is far quicker (never seems to bog down), I prefer the Git integration with a couple of extensions, it is infinitely more customisable, and generally feels more familiar (re sorta Microsoft-ish). Both produce code and it is the end result that matters.
The 4th thing that WS does better, is refactoring. I couldn’t find any extension for VSC that can do refactoring like in WS.
VS Code is great lightweight and super customizable, but I do programming for a living and I find IntelliJ to be professional tools, I have no problem paying for them as they are supported and work out of the box, no brainer investment, well worth the money.
4:35 Webstorm is basically IntelliJ IDE with some plugins. And IntelliJ IDE has been there for like 20 years. It's arguably the best IDE for Java. It's from Jetbrains, they make good IDEs for many languages. And Jetbrains open-sourced some parts of IntelliJ IDE, which Microsoft took and built on it VsCode
I was wrong. Android Studio is built on IntelliJ IDE, not VSCode.
@@micoberss5579 it was made by Google and Jetbrains both
Jet brains also developed Kotlin which is a great language
Netbeans from Apache is the best
VSCode and Webstorm is like React and Angular! Angular is a full featured framework rather React is a Library that has a ecosystem very rich that turn it into a framework.
What's vue? Chopped liver?
@@micahgmiranda the metaphor goes on. Could be like sublime or atom. Never heard about chopped liver
@@denilsoncosta9837 chopped liver is a saying. It's just about being left out.
@@micahgmiranda ok! I thought was another js framework!
So what is Emacs?
I use both WebStorm and VSCode. When working on large projects, I prefer WebStorm; for smaller projects or single files, I opt for VSCode.
VSCode can be compared to the Android OS-an open-source software that offers configurability but tends to be less optimized, resulting in a lack of advanced features and power. In contrast, WebStorm resembles iOS, where everything is tightly integrated and curated for an optimal out-of-the-box experience. Much like the seamless integration between iOS and iPhone hardware, WebStorm achieves a high level of optimization and developer experience by tightly coupling its diverse features. This level of integration is challenging to achieve in VSCode, given that its plugins lack tight cohesion. A notable example is the robust code refactoring features available in WebStorm across all supported languages.
While it's true that WebStorm is a paid product, the comparison can be made with the costlier nature of devices running iOS compared to their Android counterparts. Many individuals are willing to invest extra for a superior experience.
If only jetbrains release a webstorm community edition... :(
I was trying to switch from phpstorm to vscode but couldn't get symfony plugin working
The only thing i really miss in vscode is a free ai autocomplete, i tried the free version of tabnine but it's trash , any one can help me?
Try GitHub copilot. I’ve fallen in love
@@JamesQQuick waiting for more than a month to accept me, till now no chance
@@Aoubaker ahhh no. Hope it happens soon!
Speaking only about my experience:
Get work done: Webstorm
Light editing: VS Code
I went from Notepad++ to VS Code and never looked back
Me too
Just only refactoring pays for the WS licence, making it cheaper than the free VSC. It's the perfect example that price and cost are not the same thing. That's for professional developers/projects where *time is money*. For simpler projects or beginner developers, VSC with its spectacular extensions eco system is the logical option.
I was laughing my ass off when he said that not many developers can afford 60 bucks a year for an IDE. Yet people find money to go to the movies and buy stuff from the concession stand. Maybe he would have a point for students but Jetbrain probably gives discounted licenses for them. And... some developers actually have employers.
I just wanted to point out you guys that as an university’s student, you can apply for a free license with all functionality that the ide Webstorm gives in the pay version.
It's now free for non-commercial use
Tailwind dark class autocompletion doesn't work on IntelliJ IDEA (their main IDE that encapsulates Webstorm). Don't know why
As someone who has been using IntelliJ IDEA (superset of WebStorm) for about 4 years now, I find myself most productive in the IDE when starting a new project. The Git integration is amazing, the file watchers for Sass, Less, Typescript or any other pre-processor makes it super easy for me to get coding features rather than setting up a task runner. Plus the access to documentation from within the IDE is one thing that I just can't live without.
Yes VS Code can do all the above but I always find myself using VS Code for quick edits to 1 or 2 files rather than use it for the entire project.
That being said they are both tools and which one is better is entirely dependent on one's use case.
I tried using Webstorm over a three month period and whilst I liked a lot of its features but it was riddled with bugs and invalidating my cache every few minutes just became to tedious so I'm back with VS Code now.
I am working on the NUXT js app and I cant get class autocompete in VS code. Am PHP dev in first place and am using PHP sotrm. In PHP storm its just pleasure to work...
So if someone can help with my problem please share your knowledge, cause I tweaked VS code to work almost the same as PHP storm 'form my use', only the problem with class autocomplete doesn't work, and I don't know how to solve it...
I like both! I used VSCode for years as my primary editor and as of last year i switch between the two. They're both great. Webworm is just ready to go out of the box and had so many great features that were have to set up in VSCode. There's pros and cons for each. For me it's like trying to choose which child is the best. Imo, you simply can't because their different and great in their own ways.
What about project indexing and full project-wide refactoring with vs code? Don't think that comes as an extension. And when you've installed all these extensions, you're already halfway there to an IDE, but it's still never going to be an IDE with the features that make an IDE, well, an IDE, and plus the fact that now all these random extensions can break each other.
This was a real nice comparison
I use both VSCode and WS. The only thing that makes me switch back to WS is the tests, seriously. I couldn't find good extensions to run tests, if I use VSCode I usually run them using terminal. However if I need to debug a test case - only WS can save me. I'm sure there is a way to do that somehow, but it requires setup, while in WS you only need to press button. Other than that I would be perfectly fine to use only VSCode.
Never even heard of Webstorm. With the SFTP extension and key commands like cmd + P to search for any file, VSCode is as good as it can possibly get for web dev.
I have problem with Docker Node.js debugging under VS Code, and at the same time under the WebStorm debugging works as expected just out of the box! Without any tricky settings. With VS Code I couldn't setup that debugging even after investigation during many hours.
I'm using PHP Storm, but it is freezing sometimes and is slower than VSCode. :(
the editor isnt slow, your pc is ass
But does VS Code have Nyan Progress Bar?
I didn't find a satisfying dependency graph visualizer for VSCode. 😔
VSCode is absolutely fantastic. I use it for 80% of all time and for smaller projects. However, in a really massive project, Web Storm can offer unique advantages. What VSCode lacks is the refactoring abilities of Webstorm. Aside from this, there are thousands of extensions that transform vscode into webstorm.
and learning and trying all those extensions rarely cheaper than the 6 USD/month personal license price (which is legal to use at work too).
I will try to use WebStorm from now on, since I have university licence.
Definitely worth a shot!
Don't forget the Github student pack.
I was wondering if there are some extension which can improve vscode indexing. And the other thing I'm having trouble with is that when I try to search in vscode it doesn't look inside my submodule. Can I fix that with the search configs
For me Webstorm is better because it saves me more time when resolving conflicts and has better git integration than the vs code plugins
The problem with the "it has everything I need", or "it just works for me" model of thinking, is that you tend not to know what other capabilities exists which you don't have with your current tools. If you limit your maximum exposure to tools, then you aren't likely to ve exposed to things that would make you work better. It's better to have a garage full of specialty tools that you might never use, than to have a small toolkit that will restrict keep the scope of your output. This to me is what separates the professionals from the amateurs and hobbiests.
Great thoughts. Thanks for sharing!
vscode is my favorite, because I can customize it how I want for my needs.
What i miss the most in VSCode is the extensive refactoring actions you get with webstorm
My question is, what is it about Webstorm that justifies the $60 per year price tag? Other than you're already a longtime user and are more used to it, that is.
Vastly prefer the VS Code expand-as-needed 'model'. (I do lament, somewhat, that Sublime Text was so quickly eclipsed; that was a HUGE step forward. Standing on the former giants.)
I just love JetBrains products bought an all product license mostly because it's a pain whenever i have to get out of the ecosystem also i like having different editors for different programming languages , gives me a sort of structure and separation frontend from backend and such things.
Used webstorm with angular for 3 years and PC performance with big projects was bad, I decided to give vscode a try 2 months ago and after finding all the extensions to match webstorm, I uninstalled webstorm.
Can you list the extensions for us! It will be really helpful!
@@ashwingupta7222 I second this!
That in itself is a problem - 50 million extenstions. Do I have time to find the right one? Give me no-brainer out of the box functionality by default every time.
@@PaulGrossmanTheDarkArtsWizard it depends on your tolerance. Our work laptops are top of the line hardware and with the security software that runs on it, it makes it clunky and slow. Using webstorm will make you pull your hair out if you have any hair left.
It took me a couple of hours to find all the extensions needed, I use vscode mainly for angular development.
I have been using vscode happily for the past 8 months and I don't see myself ever going back to webstorm even on my personal PC.
buy a better computer
i tryed to use VSC its like swollen virus - plugins fall off works every other time = if IDE -only WStorm if text editor- only Sublime 4
Ive been using webstorm as a student since highschool and now i cant escape the ecosystem! They are really smart with the student license
They'll get you with feature updates too :) As a subscriber you get to enjoy all the new features as they are released but when your subscription runs out, the perpetual licensed version is not for the version you ended with, it is the version you started with.
Integrated means those custom extensions you put yourself together in vscode are working, tested and managed together by default in webstorm. Webstorm identifies needs, problems, optimizations, etc right out of the bat. I have become a better engineer because of webstorm, particularly because it showed me what tools I was missing for better productivity....you can replicate those in vscode if you know about them, but eventually vscode will run slower and buggier.
Great video! I'm surprised this stuff needs to be said though 🤔 A text editor/IDE is a tool... ultimately all that really matters is that it gets the job done
For me it depends on the developer what they should use, for example not all developers out there have a decent PC. some might still be using low end PC and in terms of performance I'll choose VS Code (If you're a low budget developer) because it is lightweight than Webstorm.
Which theme do u use for vs code? @James Q Quick
I swear people are going to have full on battles over what they drive, like some do in Austrailia.
James, I am sorry that people forced you to put a disclaimer out there. Stay strong dude 💪😂
lol it's not big deal. Just wanted to share a few things to consider :)
Codes have had battles over the crazy thins over the years... e.g. Spaces vs Tabs.... even with todays IDEs we still have battles over this when it's not needed.
Just getting started in Web Dev, will personally use webstorm because I'm already used to JetBrains IDEs.
Webstorm died for me at 3:14 lol, but still just was in here to check the differences, glad to know my heavily modified vscode is as good but free :D
webstorm is free now for comercial use and rider is too
@@ryangregoire-rc6zx I will have to rewatch the video again I guess :P
As a text editor and light IDE, VSCode is the king.
As a serious IDE and productive tool, VSCode is garbage when compared with Intellij or Webstorm.
vscode was my first editor, but then switched to jetBrains products and I don't use vscode anymore, except for small changes
Considering the steep price of Web Storm, organizations probably would not be willing to pay for it if the same things could be achieved using a free alternative.
VSCode for me. I really like to customize my VSCode according to my needs. Sure, an IDE probably has all the functionallity that I want (and don't want), but I really like to have the tools I need.
100% Personal Preference. I use WebStorm and Rider as my daily drivers at work but most of the Front End Devs at my work use VS Code. I also use VS Code but just as a "text editor" when I want to have some JSON model I need to work with. I also use VS Code to keep track of where I'm at in my current project / ticket with it's todo extension for .md files.
Love it!
Can't beat the price of VS Code, but with great inexpensivisity (wait, is that a word?) comes great complexity. I've got weirdness with line breaks that I just live with rather than trying to first figure out which extension is causing that, and then having to figure out how to properly modify the JSON file to make it go away without causing a whole slew of other issues.
Devs aren't smart
I prefer VS Code personally. Coming from many years of using Visual Studio, Webstorm and Eclipse, I’d say VS Code is extremely fast and much more customizable. In certain areas even better
So, this IDE is for JavaScript projects only?
Yes . Jetbrains has separate ides for lots of programming languages riders=c# IntelliJ=Java Goland=Go and so on
what about macromedia dreamweaver 8 ? :D
ahh frames!
VS code! Doesn’t slow down my computer with functionality I don’t need and is more accessible without a financial commitment
For whatever reason, IJ Idea/Webstorm are faster in corporate environment, including auto imports. I do JS projects in Vscode and java projects should be done in IJ, not to mention vendor lock in language (sort of) for Kotlin :)
The hardest part of this all is different keymaps or key bindings (whatever it's called). It takes time to get used to new keyboard shortcuts. Some people advise to learn Vim and use Vim plugin on every new IDE I use. Which also takes time.
dont learn vim hahaha, i can barely use anything that doesnt have vim keybindnings installed now
i use vscode keymap on webstorm and it works alright
Well I use the paid intellij ide which includes all the webstorm stuff plus let's me develop java, SQL, has server hooks ...... Basically I'm a contractor and have been for almost 20yrs and there is no contest. If your doing small projects then VS is probably ok but for anything professional well errrr it's a no brainer.
Webstorm is only $60 the first year. The second it's $48 and $36 for the third and subsequent years. That's only expensive it you're living in a cardboard box.
Isn't WebStorm focused on (limited to?) a subset of "web" (JavaScript) languages, whereas VSCode is potentially for any language (given the right extensions)? WebStorm appears to be £99 in the UK (first year), reducing to £59 only after 3 years - is this a similar price structure to the US, or is it just more expensive in the UK? (£59 is $80+ anyway.)
"People who think WebStorm is the only decision, and VS Code is inteferior, 14m other people might disagree with you."
If WebStorm was free, that number would say very different things. You cannot compare a free product to a paid product in terms of user counts.
If $60 a year is breaking the bank of developer, it says something more about their skill level or salary negotiating skills. Not the product.
Honestly I have worked with both and Webstorm for me just clicks better!
I have three friends who are web developers. They told me they really rarely do any new projects when it comes to enterprise apps it's mostly implementing newer features as well as refactoring code so vscode is mostly out of the picture. Imagine having hundreds of components and having to refactor all that with a text editor not saying can't be done with dedicated extensions but webstorm, rider does this out of the box. I'm really new and just getting my feet wet with web development having used vscode on and off and webstorm for two days I kind of like WS just needed to create a few live templates since I like how vscode just perfectly spits out html tags. I actually spend less time fucking with getting things set up in WS than in vsc. I can get straight to learning
Pretty good explanation. Do you know about some VS Code extension that can let you navigate through the source code of a referenced npm package? Thanks in advance
Ctrl click on a module's function, field or whatever
I like to use webStorm at work because I get a free license. I am so used to it after 5 years use, especially the search functionality, it just seems much more intuitive to me. At home I use vs Code, I don't think it's worth buying a license.
I've also been a great fan of VS Code. It does everything that a developer requires, and too in a highly configurable way.
The reason why came to this video, is because for last few months, I've been facing performance issues with VS Code on my MacBook Pro M2. Sometimes it feels like Microsoft just wants developers to switch to Microsoft with their VS Code, GitHub etc. being the primary options for majority of developers/orgs. 😄
Jokes apart, I'm really curios to know the alternatives for VS Code, and so far I've found none with he same set of features and freedom. I'm thinking to try my hands on this new "Zed" which is open source and is only available for MacOS but it's far away in terms of matching the capabilities of VS Code. I just need a performance rich code editor for now.
I agree!
But I found Angular projects in webstrom is next level
Could u pls share more in detail? I’m using vscode Angular TS and nearly pissed off 🤣
@@torrestam8527 you give it a try !
I have every product from jetbrains all in one bundle, personally I use vs code if I’m going to make a large project and I’ll use vs code for small projects and editing a html document, same thing for rubymine and phpstorm.
100K coming soon😊 Great explanation. I have worked on both & "I" prefer VS Code for my personal work.
If my project & teammates requires me to work on some editor/IDE then I switch & work on that because of some requirements. Editor/IDE is a medium for us to write better code.
Just like shoes (Nike/Asics/Adidas/Others) for walking **Bad Analogy I know**
Vscode for my flutter, webstorm for my js/typescript (angular, vue)
i am using VScode for a typescript project. when i am refactoring the project typescript server or VScode is very slow.
type inference are loading for 5-10 seconds ,also errors are not loading quickly.
how to solve this issue?
I really like VS code and would choose it any day over Webstorm if I had to pay for Webstorm myself. But in my new job I have Webstorm available and I really like the git tool that is integrated. The git tool integrated in VS code, I believe isn't as good.
The problem is webstorm offers only a free trial which is not applicable for all developers who want to use it that's why they love vscode because its free and have good extensions
I never used Webstorm, but I could say that PHPStorm is better for PHP than VS Code. VS Code is great, but PHPStorm is better. I can imagine that the same goes for Webstorm vs VS Code. People from JetBrains know what they're doing.
VSCode vs Webstorm, Vim vs Emacs, PC vs Mac, Xbox vs Playstation . . .
May as well be arguing about your favorite color.
I agree with most of what is said in this video. However VS Code is not really new -- its ancestor is the old Microsoft Visual Studio IDE which I remember using more than 20 years ago. I definitely consider VS Code to be an IDE. However, it is language-agnostic, so a lot of language-specific features aren't available without extension. This is a strength rather than a weakness. The criticism that "VS Code is not an IDE" doesn't really seem fair.
I feel like most people (myself included) dislike VS Code because it forces a coder to learn the things they don't have to with an IDE. So much of what an IDE does in the background (abstract to the programmer) is taken for granted. Anyone learning to code is robbing themselves of invaluable skills simply by using an IDE to learn to code.
What's the alternative approach? VIM?
@@JamesQQuick LOL, exactly!
@James Q Quick , when you have to deal with the ones talking smack, just remember this one fact, and think about how they really don't know what they are talking about, because of the SIMPLE fact that one is an IDE & the other is a TEXT/CODE EDITOR lol It's like comparing a 4 CYL Toyota Corolla to a 12 CYL Corvette lolol. Those of us that know what we are doing, know which one to use and when to use it. Good grief tell them to GO FIND AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT AND GIVEBACK TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THAT MAGICAL IDE OR TEXT/CODE EDITOR OF THEIRS INSTEAD OF WASTING YOUR TIME lolol.. Thank you for everything James, You're much appreciated in the community ;-)
I used to use PhpStorm for anything Webdev-ish (got a free university license, so the price tag wasn't an issue 😁) and while it's great and XDebug integration is good as well (and JetBrains IDEs kick ass in general), it's missing one critical feature for me VScode has - editing files directly via SSH. Yes, it _can_ be done, but it's way too quirky and error-prone for my taste (context menu, "edit remote file", blah, re-upload to host, blah blah...).
In VScode, I can simply connect to a remote server via SSH (or to a WSL2 instance on my local machine), open a folder there and that's it. No need to synchronize anything, and if you frequently change between machines (desktop and notebook), it's a dream. Extensions like Intelephense, Vetur, ESlint, Python, Laravel Blade, npm, etc. get installed on the server by the VScode server component (sets itself up automatically) and if you switch to another machine, it's all still there and ready to go. No more being in the shit because I messed up the sync process somewhere. 😁 Now I use VScode for practically anything (JS, HTML, (S)CSS, PHP, Python), except for C# (Rider, Visual Studio) or C/C++ (Visual Studio). For quickly editing files I use Sublime Text though, because it's very snappy and loads instantly. And of course good ol' Vim under Linux. :wq!
For remote developmet try Jetbrains Projector. You can thank me later.
I started to use ZED :)
I use vscode when I’m coding for a decent amount of time so I can take full advantage of all the features that I customized to my liking. If I need to make a quick fix I’ll use vim since it’s so fast.
in my company, most of our Senior devs use WebStorm and They say, you get what you pay for
Why does this sound like Linux vs Windows in my mind too haha either way I’m over here with my notepad++
I have used VS Code for 3years now and I must say it's only transforming for the better, and I feel bad when people shun it down. And actually, on system resources, VS Code is damn light yet powerful. You'd rather use VS Code on an old machine than WebStorm. The power of VS Code is in the hands of the user. I don't see much of a difference between the two apart from IDE vs code editor. VS Code handles all my needs and I use it mostly. So I agree.
I use both of them. i prefer vscode more than webstorm. I think vscode is much smoother than webstorm and you get a good feeling when coding in vscode than webstorm.
One thing I don't like about VS Code is its lack of support for SASS (indented version). Even with plugins it's difficult to get the same level of intellisense VS code give SCSS out of the box. Where webstorm support for scss and sass is great, even providing class code hints in the html even with nested class names.
Never really was a big fan of VS Code, I enjoyed Atom's development experience more until I started having performance issues with the software and had to switch to VS Code.
One thing VS code gets right is Javascript. I mainly opt to use them for projects that are purely Javascript or that I'm not using any sass for.
I moved from VS code to Webstorm and oh god it made my life easier !
I like VS code. As you mentioned, on most of the web programming courses or tutorials, you would likely find VS code. I don't wanna pay for a course and then again pay for an IDE to continue with that course!
I love open source projects. I've tried other editors and IDEs and vscode seems the coolest free editor out there. Been using it on my linux machine for flutter and web dev and I never had any problems. I always recommend it to my friends
VS Code is an Electron app though... I don't have required 128GB of RAM to run it. ;-)
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