True but Dame was getting black balled out the business by small hats 😈. Kinda like Kanye is now. And who you see rolling with Kanye right now thats successful? 🤔 👀
Kanye was gonna have the same level of success if he stuck with Dame bc Kanye makes great music and that’s why he’s survived so long in this industry, his music is greater than that of his peers and he keeps up with trends and also begins some so I wouldn’t say he would be less successful.
@@daniscottxo doubt it. Jay was went on to be head of Def jam Dame Dash went bankrupt- can’t see how he could put out records when he spent the Roc money and his new label folded? Everyone who went with Dash left him even dipset,
Absolutely...I concur broze...He would've continued to have producer success, he's sonically super gifted, but I don't think he would have touched the multi-billionaires club..💯.
@@Chris-tq8pqhe touched the billion dollar club with his own endeavors. Marrying Kim and starting his side businesses like fashion. That has nothing to do with rap.
The fact that Dame supported him showed he was more invested in Ye, Dame was who he shoulda gone with he wouldn't be in the predicaments he finds himself in now he would have been happier and stronger but it's not too late Jay betrayed both of them, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Dame discovers you, believes in you, puts you on and how do u thank him? Turning your back on him. "It made more sense for me career wise to roll with Jay" Translation- I stabbed Dame in the back. The guy who had been a true friend who believed in me but I wanted the fame and money more
He said why he followed Jay in the full video. Cos, Dame talked harshly like him, Ye. So, guys leave Ye alone. Stop judging so you guys don't get judged! Nonetheless, he is still in great terms with Dame. Why? Food for thought for you guys!
Yeah chose jay over Dame was like a back stabbed and I agree with that but he was gon be rich regardless and I truly believe Kanye don’t really care much about money like people think though .
Idk if Ye would been more or down money wise but his loyalty would been up. Dame gave Ye the chance to change his life and those around him he loved, you never turn your back on a person like that.
@@triplebeans4159 i feel like that's part of the reason too. yea, jay shouldntve sold the masters, but a lot are prolly just jealous of his wealth and success
Ye and Jay were both artists....so creatively it made sense for momentum career wise....watch the throne etc. That was the immediate thing. Going with dame would have taken some work to figure out the direction. With Jay, it was built in and an easy transition. Not saying that is what was right or wrong. He valued personal success and his career over loyalty.
@@Toya2529 Jay Z dealt with her too, I truly believe that played apart of the fall out too between J and Dame. That definitely wasn't a good look and I don't know what Aaliyah was thinking.
@@ggallintedtalk Trump never went to the island. Trump had Epstein banned from his Mar Lago estate when he sexually assaulted a young girl there. When Epstein was first arrested and indicted, the prosecuting lawyer said Trump out of all the famous people was the only one willing to give testimony against Epstein. All verifiable facts. Whereas Biden is an actual racist and most likely a pedo too
Ye should have know his worth…he would be successful regardless..and he should have realized jayz only using him to stay relevant..if dame was the dude that supported you and believed u could be more than just a producer how can u even go with jay.
For all yall that said Dame, Freeway, Beans, and a few other name artists went with Dame, never to drop another CD afterwards worth mentioning. Wake up!!! The obvious...
@@robertalston793 my point was Dame wouldn't have known how to move how Kanye needed him to as far as business and taking him to the next level with his music. Jay gave not only the space to be more creative and experiment, but put him in rooms with people for him to evolve in to who he has evolved...Dame wouldn't have know what to do with Kanyes eccentricities
if he had went with dame he wouldn't be successful only because dame was trying to do things that the owner of these major record labels didn't like that's why they got jay z away from him they didn't want black men to own anything or even think that way
I think Ye would've continued to have producer success, he's sonically super gifted, but I don't think he would have touched the multi-billionaires club..💯
It's hard to say because the Dame folks seeing now wasn't the same Dame when Jay was making The Roc millions, he was living in the moment, talking to potential business partners like they actually needed him, and last but not least acting very arrogant,Dame speaks like a person that loss it all and he's more humble, so career wise Ye made the right decision, but in the mix he probably lost a real friend.....
Jay a hustler and Dame a hustler. I think Jay just laid and will listen. Dame been a boss it’s his way or no way. Probably lost him a lot of money being that way.
Lesson learned, Dame told you what it was; I believe had you went with Dame people would’ve knew exactly who you are instead of being surprised now with your truth you would have been pushed down our throats instead of your authentic self being hidden with J. Dame would’ve wanted you free and paid. We understand better now than never. ❤
A dude like Kanye, don't listen to nobody. It's his own fault. He can't blame Jay or dame. He would have found a problem with both of them. Take responsibility for your own ways, and quit looking for somebody else to blame.
IN ANOTHER INTERVIEW YE SAID JAY DIDNT EVEN WANT YE ON THE TEAM. HE SAID IT WAS ALL DAMES IDEA. HE ALSO SAID JAY THOUGHT DAME WAS MAKING A BAD MOVE BY ADDING YE!! SMH! THAT BUSINESS IS WORST THEN THE STREETS
Funny people say DAME AND Jay is a snake yet Dame has snaked everybody he's done business with. Which is why you see nobody from that Era around him including Jim and Cam
@@HOFMachine this is why I never feel bad for him. Listen we all reap what we sow why do the action of you can’t handle the consequences .I feel this way about most celebrities they are rich and they complain
I think he would've been more successful because JayZ was not about making others more successful then he was. Dame would've guided Ye thru the roof because Dame was more business minded then JayZ.
Sacrificed so you're one of those people wow there's so many different sections and facets of the indoctrinated brainwashed American lifestyle it's like a Christmas tree and you can't find the root
Career wise was best to go with JZ but what the fans don’t know Dame & Ye still hangout still talk dame said so himself. He actually said in a interview that he told him to go with JZ get your money but they never lost contact Kanye said it himself as well dame didn’t want to be apart of what him and jay got going on so there’s no hate between the 2
Look at Dame now and Look at Jay… he made the right the decision… Ye fell off last year and he still worth what a half a billion… Dame acts like a old pissed off uncle
Dame would of atleast had Ye's back and would of told him to be cool in the lime light. Dame would of kept him grounded.Dame would have told him to move forward regardless of Ye'hs insecurities of him feeling like he's trying to live up to being this huge fashion mogul fraud.
He probably wouldn’t have been as famous across the board, BUT his soul would probably be more intact!!!
💯
Man!! "Soul probably would be more intact".
How when dame throwing up the pyramid in the clip
Dame dash being good for someones soul..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wtf are talking about
Never roll with a man that would snake his own man's to get ahead of the game.
Facts say that again dc ♥
♥
True but Dame was getting black balled out the business by small hats 😈. Kinda like Kanye is now. And who you see rolling with Kanye right now thats successful? 🤔 👀
Not listening my choices ♥
Ain't in clubs not my twist that's it ♥ 👋 never was tho ♥ 👋
He would've been a little less successful but way more respected 💯💯💯💯
Kanye was gonna have the same level of success if he stuck with Dame bc Kanye makes great music and that’s why he’s survived so long in this industry, his music is greater than that of his peers and he keeps up with trends and also begins some so I wouldn’t say he would be less successful.
YE would be successful no matter what!
We 💕 YE
It worked out cause Kanye became wealthy and looked out for dame . And when Kanye was in debt jay looked out for him
@@daniscottxo doubt it. Jay was went on to be head of Def jam
Dame Dash went bankrupt- can’t see how he could put out records when he spent the Roc money and his new label folded?
Everyone who went with Dash left him even dipset,
He supported you, so you left him. Karma
He couldnt go with dame
Dame is a fraud
They both supported him🙄
Karma lol. Everybody Buddhist now 😂
Just like the his camera man
I believe he wouldn’t be as successful with Dame but Dame would have looked out for him.
Absolutely...I concur broze...He would've continued to have producer success, he's sonically super gifted, but I don't think he would have touched the multi-billionaires club..💯.
just like he was looking out for jay
@@Chris-tq8pqhe touched the billion dollar club with his own endeavors. Marrying Kim and starting his side businesses like fashion. That has nothing to do with rap.
He's hurting so bad.
The fact that Dame supported him showed he was more invested in Ye, Dame was who he shoulda gone with he wouldn't be in the predicaments he finds himself in now he would have been happier and stronger but it's not too late
Jay betrayed both of them, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Dame discovers you, believes in you, puts you on and how do u thank him? Turning your back on him. "It made more sense for me career wise to roll with Jay" Translation- I stabbed Dame in the back. The guy who had been a true friend who believed in me but I wanted the fame and money more
life created to be unfair..money came first
Facts 💯
He said why he followed Jay in the full video. Cos, Dame talked harshly like him, Ye.
So, guys leave Ye alone. Stop judging so you guys don't get judged!
Nonetheless, he is still in great terms with Dame. Why? Food for thought for you guys!
Yeah chose jay over Dame was like a back stabbed and I agree with that but he was gon be rich regardless and I truly believe Kanye don’t really care much about money like people think though .
Music is a business you taking this too personal 😂😂😂 he wouldn’t be who he is with Dame. How come Dame didn’t make another superstar ? The End !
It's not To Late to work with Dame.
Ye and Dame would be a force to reckon with..Life is still undefeated..
The moment he knew he fuck up 💯
How? Ye became a billionaire. How he fucked up
@@spenser6353 involving himself with debilz
@@GODsCHILD-lm6dfY'all just dumb with that mess
All 3 are successful! 💯 They rolled through the rough spots 👑 Growth requires division at some point
Idk if Ye would been more or down money wise but his loyalty would been up. Dame gave Ye the chance to change his life and those around him he loved, you never turn your back on a person like that.
Dame was too real that’s why that snake jayz had to split
i'm interested as to why people call jayz a snake...i'm honestly out of the loop, why do people call him that? what did he do?
@@HOFMachine oh, dang. wasn't it like he sold kanye's masters to get his back? that's a dick move
@@andrewgj8 nothing just envy and resentment because Jay is what their favorite rapper should've been.
@@triplebeans4159 i feel like that's part of the reason too. yea, jay shouldntve sold the masters, but a lot are prolly just jealous of his wealth and success
@@andrewgj8They are just dumb people
Ye and Jay were both artists....so creatively it made sense for momentum career wise....watch the throne etc. That was the immediate thing. Going with dame would have taken some work to figure out the direction. With Jay, it was built in and an easy transition. Not saying that is what was right or wrong. He valued personal success and his career over loyalty.
he’s so sweet and going thru a transformation. Gods still in the miracle working business. he’s gonna be alright
He did what was best for his career
Definitely shouldve rolled with Dame. But like he said, it made more sense career wise to roll with Jay
Never wonder about things in the past forward we go . 🙏
Bingooooo!!
Jay z wasn't the guy he was busy Dippin to epsteins Island can't imagine dame was flying out there
Dame had R kelly's main chic, Allyiah , and other R. Kelly leftovers
@@Toya2529 never knew that every day's a school day
@@Toya2529 Jay Z dealt with her too, I truly believe that played apart of the fall out too between J and Dame. That definitely wasn't a good look and I don't know what Aaliyah was thinking.
@@specialops9710 Trump saw Epstein too
@@ggallintedtalk Trump never went to the island. Trump had Epstein banned from his Mar Lago estate when he sexually assaulted a young girl there. When Epstein was first arrested and indicted, the prosecuting lawyer said Trump out of all the famous people was the only one willing to give testimony against Epstein. All verifiable facts.
Whereas Biden is an actual racist and most likely a pedo too
Jay Z would have sabotaged him out of envy.
You can't get more successful than Kanye
With Dame we would've found out Ye was crazy sooner.
That's crazy..... Kanye IS Not Crazy
Ye should have know his worth…he would be successful regardless..and he should have realized jayz only using him to stay relevant..if dame was the dude that supported you and believed u could be more than just a producer how can u even go with jay.
Ye made a right business decision. What has dame done since rocafella broke up?
Dame wouldn't have let Ye be a boss to him you just a rapper probably stealing from him to 😫😫😭😭😁😁✌✌
He made the wrong choice, he sold his soul with Jay-z
@@Kory368 oh yea as if your billion will go to the grave with you and help you after you're gone from this world
@@grump9283 it will support his family when he’s dead. That’s why it’s called generational wealth
😂 we All know the answer to that question by Now.
Jay z was your vehicle. With jay z as your transportation I’m quite Sure it was a bumpy ride
For all yall that said Dame, Freeway, Beans, and a few other name artists went with Dame, never to drop another CD afterwards worth mentioning. Wake up!!! The obvious...
Kanye is more talented than everybody you mentioned. I believe he would have been GOOD if he rolled with Dame.
@@robertalston793 my point was Dame wouldn't have known how to move how Kanye needed him to as far as business and taking him to the next level with his music. Jay gave not only the space to be more creative and experiment, but put him in rooms with people for him to evolve in to who he has evolved...Dame wouldn't have know what to do with Kanyes eccentricities
if he had went with dame he wouldn't be successful only because dame was trying to do things that the owner of these major record labels didn't like that's why they got jay z away from him they didn't want black men to own anything or even think that way
Dame eagle way to big that’s why a lot of people don’t fuck with him when it comes to business
He did the right thing jay protected him through multiple beefs including 50 cent. 50 even think that was a smart move.
After at that we get know who he really is...
If ye would've went with dame, adidas wouldn't own yezzy
It’s amazing because Dame pushed for jz so he would have done the same for Ye now he’s fighting for his life and uh… yeah
It is common for artist to split from their record label or they split from their artist.
Kinda what happened with EPMD, also same goes when NWA broke up.
He made the right move
First it was all about the benjamins now it's about life
Dame knows what the hell he's doing in that game, you made a bad decision young man! Where's your boy Jay-Z at now y'all don't even talk no more.
Nobody ever tell you that when you sell your Soul when you young.Smh.That you might want it back when you older.Smh.Regrets.Smh
Unrelated: Ye’s skin looks Amazingly perfect!!! 👌🏽
I think Ye would've continued to have producer success, he's sonically super gifted, but I don't think he would have touched the multi-billionaires club..💯
Where would he be far as happiness yea wit jay he found the success but not the happiness
It's hard to say because the Dame folks seeing now wasn't the same Dame when Jay was making The Roc millions, he was living in the moment, talking to potential business partners like they actually needed him, and last but not least acting very arrogant,Dame speaks like a person that loss it all and he's more humble, so career wise Ye made the right decision, but in the mix he probably lost a real friend.....
He should have went with dame, he made j so why not go with the creator over the art.
Where's another Jay?it's been 27 years.
Ye didn’t need Jay needed Ye.
Jay was bigger than Ye when Rocafella broke up
He provided the best beat!..& lay-z came up on it!…
This business is tricky. Lots more people than we think are behind the Scenes than we think
All i want is the money fvck thr fame im a simple man.
2pac
I don't think it's possible to be more successful than he has been
Jay a hustler and Dame a hustler. I think Jay just laid and will listen. Dame been a boss it’s his way or no way. Probably lost him a lot of money being that way.
Lesson learned, Dame told you what it was; I believe had you went with Dame people would’ve knew exactly who you are instead of being surprised now with your truth you would have been pushed down our throats instead of your authentic self being hidden with J. Dame would’ve wanted you free and paid. We understand better now than never. ❤
Brothers can't work together for ah billion dollar business 💯 smh
A dude like Kanye, don't listen to nobody. It's his own fault. He can't blame Jay or dame. He would have found a problem with both of them. Take responsibility for your own ways, and quit looking for somebody else to blame.
Listen to last call youll hear why it really wasnt his fault and his choise
@@fazouf7339 he clearly states this is after roc-a-fella split
Its tough either decision
Jay loves kayne more then anyone in the industry
😢😢😢😢😂😂😂
That's absolute 🧢. Jay only came to kanye when it benefitted him.
Jay-Z only loves Jay-Z
I remember when this happened and I was pissed off that He went. Now look how Jayz treats him...
@@Jerrysnow45 Thank you I corrected it!😊🤦🏽♀️
@@Kory368 Duh
@@Kory368 I can tell by your last name that you are miserable and your life sucks!😉
The way to find out if someone is a genius is NOT an IQ test. Just ask them
The industry, People! “TheChef”
That's a cry out to Jay-Z to support him as a friend...or is there no real friendship between them outside of money?
What about dehaven irby?
He made the right choice
Wrong choice
Only for a moment...
Dame burned a lot of bridges in the industry and that would have effected Kanyes business. At the end of the day it's about business not friendships.
Dame was a great business man..
Definitely less
Kanye is one of those Dudes that think his Enemies are his Friends.Smh.
They did that album : Watch the Throne
More successful
IN ANOTHER INTERVIEW YE SAID JAY DIDNT EVEN WANT YE ON THE TEAM. HE SAID IT WAS ALL DAMES IDEA. HE ALSO SAID JAY THOUGHT DAME WAS MAKING A BAD MOVE BY ADDING YE!! SMH! THAT BUSINESS IS WORST THEN THE STREETS
You made the right 👍
Dame discovered Kanye but the gate keepers started whispering& implanting thoughts in Jay-Z' s ear to question Rocafella and to help dismantle it.
Funny people say DAME AND Jay is a snake yet Dame has snaked everybody he's done business with. Which is why you see nobody from that Era around him including Jim and Cam
*_That’s a good question!!_*
Wild out = off my meds
That’s what you call betrayal but you did it for your career you made your choice
@@HOFMachine this is why I never feel bad for him. Listen we all reap what we sow why do the action of you can’t handle the consequences .I feel this way about most celebrities they are rich and they complain
Sam Phillips knew Elvis outgrew Sun Records. RCA bought Elvis' contract and everyone was happy.
Didn't Dame disrespect him throughout the entire documentary.
With every body else that rolled with dame in the same spot every one that stuck with jay is billionaire’s period
I think he would've been more successful because JayZ was not about making others more successful then he was. Dame would've guided Ye thru the roof because Dame was more business minded then JayZ.
He felt it when those in charge turned on HIM.
Jay nor Dame was a factor in this man's success. What is meant for you is meant for you.
I think Dame would had him more successful because Dame was the one who supported him, buy also broadened his horizons with fashion, etc.
He wouldn’t be as big as he is today if he went with Dame.
He sacrificed his mother and went luny toons…dame and ass but his mother would still be alive
Sacrificed so you're one of those people wow there's so many different sections and facets of the indoctrinated brainwashed American lifestyle it's like a Christmas tree and you can't find the root
3.box.🤔4
Box
I think he would have been farther in the game
DAME HAD THE SMARTS
Oh it would’ve so much better for you . 🙏🙏 praying for you
He made the wrong choice should've choose Dame
But then he later got problems with Jay 🙄
He know he would of been on God side rolling with dame
Less.. Definitely less..
I don't think you would be as big as you are if you went with dame . You did the the right thing at that time !!!!
Career wise was best to go with JZ but what the fans don’t know Dame & Ye still hangout still talk dame said so himself. He actually said in a interview that he told him to go with JZ get your money but they never lost contact Kanye said it himself as well dame didn’t want to be apart of what him and jay got going on so there’s no hate between the 2
Just don’t watch it .
Way to pay him back LOFL
He made the right move financially
Support? Or Put on??
Ye ,you will still be successful because you very Talented,one thing I can say you would have more Royalty and that's Everything.
He is not crazy, this guy knows things, LOTS of things
Look at Dame now and Look at Jay… he made the right the decision… Ye fell off last year and he still worth what a half a billion… Dame acts like a old pissed off uncle
Shouldve rolled dolo
He can’t even get it out
He would be broke, Dame is broke. Jay managed Riri and Riri is a billionaire. Dame had not managed anyone successfully on his own.
Dame would of atleast had Ye's back and would of told him to be cool in the lime light. Dame would of kept him grounded.Dame would have told him to move forward regardless of Ye'hs insecurities of him feeling like he's trying to live up to being this huge fashion mogul fraud.