Twin Peaks Overview #4: A Tale of Two Lodges
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2019
- What mystery lurks in the woods surrounding Twin Peaks? What do we know, and what can we infer? CPF dives into the mystery surrounding the famous lodges, in its most overdone Peaks video yet. (Incidentally, Major Briggs DOES say he felt his time spent missing to be shorter than it turned out to be, so that goof's on me.)
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Since this question keeps coming up: No, I don't think the 3 and 15 have anything to do with episode numbers. Lynch and Frost wrote the third season as one continuous script, which would be cut into episodes later. At the start, they didn't even know how many episodes they would be able to get-Showtime originally was only going to make 9. I seriously doubt they even knew which episode numbers those events would end up as when shooting occurred, since they planned to cut the 18-hour movie (as they both considered it to be) into separate episodes in editorial (hence the convenience of having many musical performances at the Roadhouse, which could be used whenever needed as episode-enders), and I doubt Lynch would so cheeky as to have the Black Lodge measure time in our world in terms of episodes.
Corn Pone Flicks this channel deserves more attention. Great stuff. Subscribed.
Maybe that is the sort of proof that Lynch is interfacing with some sort of revelation of the Mysteries and Twin Peaks is some sort of initiation in them
In "The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer" she specifically states that she's isolated all the goodness in her and hid it from BOB. That's the angel that escapes to the White Lodge at the end of "FWWM". The Fireman is named Lanternman and the woman who comes into his home when The Log Lady dies is named Margaret, she is his wife and they love each other very much. You can see a plight similar to theirs worked-out through the visit to Jack Rabbit's mansion in "INLAND EMPIRE", which also features Laura Dern seeing another version of herself.
Cooper lived in 315 at the Great Northern. 15 is a 6, probably a bad place.
+zerooskul The Fireman's name is never given, so I don't know where you are getting that. We also never see a woman enter the fireman's home when the Log Lady dies. The woman that is there in episode 8 is named Senorita Dido. I don't know what you are referring to.
The scenes with the Log Lady broke my heart to watch. But I'm so happy she was able to play her iconic character again. May she rest in peace. I love her.
In Room to Dream, it's mentioned that Catherine Coulson hid how sick she was from Lynch so he wouldn't have any reservations about using her in the show. She actually kept the original log with her in the intervening years, so it could be used if the show ever came back. I'm sure it was hard for her, but I can also understand that she wanted one last performance to her name, and the show is all the better for it.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks wow, that's amazing
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks and when she says she was dying of cancer she actually died a short moment later. Even without knowing that I cried when she said goodbye for one final time
@@lRedPosion That did break my heart to hear her say goodbye.
@@tannaeros may she rest in peace 😇
Twin peaks really is like a dream, it seemed so important and profound when I watched it, but as time goes on I forget so much of it, and can't make any sense of it.
Thats a great comparison and you dont hear many people realize or _remember_ that odd aspect of the diminishing abstract profoundness of some dreams soon after having them.
@Eileen Farrar You know what that is? I bet you generated the dream from a part of your brain that is reserved for storing very old or traumatic memories.. so even if it's a good dream, you dont have access once you are awake and conscious. So frustrating!
That feeling that the complete knowing, that you had in the dream, is just fingertips away but it's like clasping at smoke.
Then you snap back to not knowing but knowing only that _something_ was there at the heart of it, at least you were certain at the time.
That's why you can have the pleasure of rewatching it 20 times and never get bored! 😂
You have the best Twin Peaks videos online! Thank you for putting the time/effort into them that you do!!
Wait a minute, wait a minute. You know, this is (excuse me) a damn fine Twin Peaks video analysis essay. I can’t tell you how many Twin Peaks video analysis essays I’ve watched in the last two weeks, but this…this is one of the best.
It isn't. Check out the channel Twin Perfect. There's a 4 1/2 hour video that actually accomplishes with this video claims to.
I think you definitely hit on something between 16:34 and 17:06, when you point out that, while the Black Lodge first appears in Cooper's dream and is interpreted by Cooper as "a collection of clues that will help him solve the Palmer murder case," nevertheless, "some of the components of the dream he took as being clues to the case... turned out to reflect the reality of the Black Lodge." This, in my view, is a really important part of _Twin Peaks._
The first time Cooper comes into contact with the Black Lodge is during a dream; Cooper believes that the environment in this dream consists of symbols and representations that can be decoded with reference to phenomena in the "real," waking world. In other words, Cooper initially assumes that the goings-on in the Black Lodge are essentially symbols, and that those symbols _stand for_ or represent certain _referents_ in the "real" world (that is, the world that Cooper lives in and experiences when he's awake, as opposed to the world that he enters into when he dreams).
For example, Cooper believes that the dancing man in his dream is a _symbol,_ and that Leland Palmer's obsession with dancing is the _referent_ of this symbol; thus, or so at least Cooper believes, the _meaning_ of the dancing man is Leland Palmer's obsession with dancing. To take another example, in Cooper's dream, Laura Palmer tells Cooper that "Sometimes, [her] arms bend back." Again, Cooper interprets this as a _symbol,_ and eventually concludes that the _referent_ of this symbol is the fact that Laura Palmer's arms were bound behind her back shortly before her murder in the "real" world. In other words, Cooper seems to subscribe to a _referential theory of meaning:_ the meaning of a symbol is _the thing it refers to_ in the world (i.e. the meaning of a symbol is its _referent_ ).
The climax of the second season occurs precisely when Cooper's referential conception of meaning is shattered. In short, Cooper's efforts to "decode" the representations in his dreams ultimately lead him _into_ the Black Lodge itself. And the Black Lodge, it turns out, isn't just a place that exists in a dream--it's a real place, in the real world, and the various phenomena therein are _real_ phenomena. That is to say, Cooper sought to unravel the world of symbols by searching for the ultimate _meanings_ of those symbols, but all he discovers at the end of his search is _more symbols._ Symbols and representations are not defined by their relationship to concrete things, but by their relationship to _other symbols and representations._ Indeed, reality is itself _just a collection of symbols and representations,_ whose ultimate meanings are eternally subject to interpretation and ambiguity. This is what Cooper finally comes to realise, all too late, when he first enters the Black Lodge, during that climatic scene in which Jimmy Scott performs _Sycamore Trees._
And this, I feel, is what Cooper is referring to at the end of season 3 when he says that "We live inside a dream." Seen in this way, _Twin Peaks_ is, partly, a kind of cinematic treatise on semiotics, epistemology, and even metaphysics.
I could go on and on, about the dual nature of human beings, Monica Bellucci, and all that jazz. But this comment is already overly long, and I need to look for a job.
How’s jobbie?
What I love most about Lynch's work in general, and Twin Peaks in particular, is that it invites and sustains deep analysis and discussion for years... the man is a genius.
a lot of tv series and movies do that though..
CPF: The KING of Twin Peaks related content! Some interesting speculation to chew on here!
I'm really glad to see new videos from fans even after 2 years of season 3. Twin Peaks is by far the best thing Iv ever seen. It's really not something you forget after few days.
I've watched this video multiple times yet I find myself returning to it. There should be a term for UA-cam explainer videos that are simply so well made that they're like favorite music tracks for people. like returning to the shaman or storyteller who gathers you around the fire again to tell you the same story you've heard but you still want to hear it.
The closest word is something Tolkien wrote: sub-creation. In the telling, your videos grew and became works of art in themselves.
After all these years, I am bored of twin peaks theories. But this, Sir, was so well produced and your clear knowledge and professionalism in presenting your views is outright excellent. Well done.
As a rabid TP fan who's read the books and consumed as many UA-cam analyses as possible, these ones are head and shoulders above the rest, both in production value and insight. I am chomping at the goddamn bit to hear your thoughts on Judy!
It'll happen. This one is, for various reasons, taking a bit longer to make than the last ones.
I am 3.5 minutes into this and already I can see this guy is a genius
I made it about that far before looking to make a similar comment. This guy gets it.
1st I thought "good" then a bit more of it "Very good" then "wonderful"
David Lynch needs to hire him as an editor. He can do Lynch style directing with a fraction of the budget. Amazing
First time viewer who just wants to say you did an exceptional job with the homages and the self-insertions into scenes from the show. The attention to detail with the lighting, color grade and framing of tea time with the Log Lady is great.
I fricking love your casts. being a huuuuuge Twin Peaks fan I love it all but you clearly put a huge amount of effort into your production for each episode and I would just like to say a specific thank you from myself in New Zealand (and no doubt many other NZ residents and the rest of the world) for taking the time to do the great videos you do. can't wait for the next one. I'm so glad you are still dissecting this and creating discussion so long after The Return. there must be many fans like myself who still ponder, discuss and dissect that which we have been given from the wonderful world of Twin Peaks and I am so glad to be part of it...in my own way. keep it up and thank you again.
Did not expect the Judy-Batman signal. I spit my coffee through my nose. Well done 👍
That got me too x)
The later half of season two is ICONIC and low key the best part, screw the basics man lmao
You mean the part where Lynch was scrapped for time AND had to drag the series out for more episodes, so he created a shit antagonist and love interest storyline? Man, I don’t know how you vapid cretins operate, you genuinely only like that half because “Hurrrr durrr it’s so surrealist... it’s like nothing I’ve ever seeeeeen....”
@@Zach-bt2ky The fuck is wrong with you? He liked those episodes, so what? Grow up, chump. 😐
You don't have to be a dick about it, Zack. You have no idea why people like what they like. I should also point out that Windom Earle, apart from being in no way a shit antagonist, was first mentioned in the second episode of season 2, so don't pretend he was shoehorned in at the last second.
@@Zach-bt2kyah Zach, it's okay to just admit you don't like something because you can't understand it. David's work isn't really for the weak minded or people avoiding themselves.
@cancerthecrab The fact that you think you're special or unique for liking David Lynch is absolutely comical. You're about as basic as they come. Piercings, bright makeup, dirty bongs, tapestry, David Lynch. It's almost as if someone wrote a "Not Like The Other Girls" character to be as stereotypical and trite as humanly possible.
By the way, when you're posturing as if some sort of media is edifying only to the enlightened few who "truly understand it," you should try to display a level of reading comprehension greater than a 10 year old's. I never said I disliked all Lynch, I implied that the second half of S2 was rushed, underdeveloped, and childish. And that's BECAUSE IT WAS.
Guess what, you utter clown, Lynch himself said that the second season of twin peaks "absolutely sucked." THOSE ARE HIS OWN WORDS. He didn't want the series to be that long, but he had contractual obligations, and spit out some half-baked garbage. Embarrassing, cretinous clown.
I think I've spent more time collectively watching critique videos about twin peaks than the show itself. Very informative vids btw.
It was my understanding that the pool is scorched engine oil; an opening to a gateway. And I believe the scene in FWWM is assumed to be above the convenient store, but it's the house at Dead Dog farms that Cooper purchases. Both have the formica table and when Cooper enters the house, he does sense, "There was a meeting here.", although in the natural world the current plot points to the meeting between Hank Jennings, Jean Renault, Ernie Niles and the Mountie. This is still great. Thirty years and I still have a ball descronstructing the lore. Great videos!
These videos for me are like having a season 4 for TP. Great narrative, great composition. I wait the new episodes like I used to wait the next TP episodes for season 3. And that’s huge.
You do a phenomenal job of explaining things in a simple way! It also seems you mostly just stick to most straightforward interpretation of the story, and not some far-out ideas like other places. Thank you very much!
I ask only that anyone putting out a theory of what's going on indicate the scene or conversation or whatever that supports it. There's a lot of interpretations that just invent plot elements out of whole cloth and don't even try to anchor it to what we see (particularly all the ones who claim that certain episodes have to be watched side-by-side in sync, as if that's how directors work).
I LOVE the creativity and humor in these videos! Thanks for scratching our Twin Peaks itch!
Man this is the most excellent Twin Peaks discussion video I've ever seen,just brilliant!
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This series is by far the most rational and logical take on the mystery of twin peaks I have ever seen. I highly praise your work as well as editing.
This is pretty fantastic stuff! I'm really blown away by the incorporation of yourself into footage from the show.
I think your first three videos were the best (or among the best) Twin Peaks analyses I've heard. This was really good too.
Ive never left a comment on a youtube video before and all i wanna say is: thanks! what a catchy funny rewatchable bunch of explicating youve done! now im in for a rewatch!
Can't believe your channel didn't find its way to me sooner, considering I've been a Lynch fan since the 1990s. Awesome content and I love your unique editing style. Subbed!
Ahhh yessss! I love this channel so much these are such a joy to watch 😍
The best and only Twin Peaks videos I look out for these days. Punchy, funny and very interesting content. 👍
Your twin peaks videos are amazing! Really great analysis and gets you thinking! Please keep making them! 👍
Looking forward to your #5 mate , your videos make the best sense of anyone I have heard and I’ve heard so many
you earned my sub from the first minute of this. Masterful. Hilarious. So eager to dig through your backlog.
Excellent work.
I saw this in my recommended vids and had to watch. Then I had to go back to the beginning of your overview series and watch em all the way through. Keep em up!
Seeing video #4 made me happy. Your videos are awesome. Keep it up!
Thank you for keeping the Twin Peaks community alive with your videos. I watched the whole series over 3 months ago but I never even knew about it when The Return initially came out so its great to be able to participate in the discussion.
I love your content and analysis. It's making me see it all in a new light. Thanks 😊
I was so glad to see new Twin Peaks content, from you!
I'm just stumbling upon your channel now and WOW these are incredibly well made videos!!! Analytically, and production wise. Great stuff.
LOVE you reaching for the portal in your backyard. I lol’d! Also, your perspective is thoughtful and cogent, and the vids are totally entertaining.
I can't wait for the next video. This has been a great watch so far. You are my favourite UA-cam discovery of the past months!
It will be a few more weeks before the next one is done, as there have been some complications, but it's written and shooting /editing has started.
I just found your videos! I hadn’t thought about Twin Peaks for a bit since the last season aired almost two years ago. But your videos clarify things more than any others I have seen. And your theories are not ridiculous or overly complex. They seem to be based on actual signals that Lynch put in the series. Thanks!
I prefer the approach of drawing lines between the dots, rather than adding a bunch of new dots, which is what I've seen in many other places.
I absolutely loved this. So much thought and work put in, really I applaud you! More more more!
Thank you, I appreciated the massive effort that went into this video production!
Your videos are really well thought out, expertly produced and extremely enjoyable. Just watched your Secret History of CPF and I’m definitely going to check out your other content. Thanks for all your efforts!
Always my favourite Twin Peaks analysis videos! I'm always blown away by your thoughts and visuals (seriously cool that you can put yourself right into the world). Thank you for the amazing content, keep up the spooky work.
I love all these Twin Peaks Lore videos! Great to watch with nice cup of fine coffee!
This is the best Twin Peaks shit I've seen since the Nyx Fears video. You're doing an AMAZING job.
I'm really excited for the next part, keep it up.
This is fantastic. The bits between the analysis were the best. Can't wait for he next!
I dig all the love and effort that went into this!!
Really enjoyed this series so far. Very well put together.
incredible man, stumbled upon this is not only incredibly smart but also watchable. Can't wait to see more.
THANK YOU..your Twin Peaks Series is a Masterwork...and unlike most similar content, the inclusion of yourself in some of the scenes u comment on are Fabulous and Flawless
This was absolutely the best interpretive breakdown of Twin Peaks I have seen anywhere. This is my second time pouring through these videos and I am so ashamed that I haven’t subscribed until now. Corn Pone Flicks knows film and lore like no one else!
This video popped up randomly on my homepage and I am so glad that it did. Watched all your TP videos with rapt attention. Cannot WAIT for Judy. Thank you so much.
You'll have to wait a least a little. It's coming, but it'll be a few weeks due to it being a bit complicated. When you see it, you'll know why.
Your mind, your style, your voice is the guide that leads me through the woods to uncover the secrets covered by night.
Thanks...I actually kind of hate the sound of my voice, so I'm glad you don't find it too annoying.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Me too. I sometimes inwardly cringe when I talk. 😆
These episodes are brilliant and I can't believe this channel doesn't have more subscribers.
Yeah I know right they're sooooo good so glad you showed me this channel. Also I always maintained that I liked the final episodes of season 2 because of all the owl cave/black lodge stuff I'm so glad he pointed that out LOL :p
Incredibly entertaining and insightful, and amazingly edited. Kudos.
about Laura declining the invite from Bob to become a evil and cruel person ,this is a great metaphor to anylize the concept of moral,also i think is one of the things Lyinch care the most because Cooper say to agent Andy that he's a good and virtuos man and that's a very uncommon quality nowdays,turning back on the argue that human's nature is to overpower other creature ,even other human ,and fighting against our true nature is something extremely hard and it take a lot of willpower.
I absolutely love your twin peaks analysis videos. Thank you!
Just listened to your Twin Peaks episodes. You have done an excellent job.
How good these videos are, I‘m really impressed! i hope you keep doing these!
If by "these" you mean videos on Twin Peaks in particular, I finished about two years ago. I'm always working on something, though.
I wish you good fortune and all your future endeavors and I love this series on twin peaks rewatched them multiple times
We need some more Twin Peaks content from you. These are fantastic and a lot of fun!
Just binge watching all your twin peaks content. You are true hero with these amazing theories and explenations.
Glad you enjoy the video, but there's nothing heroic involved. Being a hero involves personal risk. I just edited some stuff.
Another excellent analysis. Thank you for doing these. Looking forward to your take on Judy.
Definitely my favorite Twin Peaks videos. Informative and funny. Its not as easy to do both as people think
I love how interactive you make your videos!
This the best Twin Peaks video I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot.
I always look forward to your videos! Keep up the awesome work!
the editing and delievery is stellar cant wait for the next vid
Best TP analysis vids I’ve seen! Thanks!!
Vastly underrated channel.
I'm late to Twin Peaks and apparently late to your channel. And I'm loving both. Thank you sir.
I'm really enjoying these video essays on twin peaks and other movies. Keep up the good work!
These videos are really helping me peice together twin peaks. Thank you.
This is fantastic! Not only is your Twin Peaks analysis intelligent and original, but your videos are a real pleasure to watch in their own right. Looking forward to the next episode, and may there be many more!
I definitely plan on three more, but after that, I really do need to get back to other projects. Twin Peaks isn't my only interest, and I've got a huge backlog of other reviews to do.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks if they are made with the same talent and enthusiasm as your Twin Peaks content, I would happily watch videos on pretty much anything to which you might turn your attention :)
Well, there's plenty of them already here, if you want to take a look.
The Production and content of your videos are amazing, good job ! ♥
I'm having a nerdgasm. Seriously. Twin Peaks is, in many ways, what Star Wars is to other middle-aged fat guys who work in IT. I like Star Wars, don't get me wrong. I watch all the films, the UA-cam critiques, and speculate as much as anyone on Disney's ongoing commoditization. But I have no desire to read the novels, collect all the toys, and argue over canon. Not like Peaks. Peaks is special. Not sure how you have the time and budget to do what you do, but I'm glad you're out there. Like Batman. Watching the skies for a signal. Hoping for something to do as the hours slip by. Cape rustling in the wind. Wondering how you're you're going to slip out of that form-fitting latex suit if the Taco Bell you had earlier wants to make a quick exit...
As far as the time is concerned, I do all my scriptwriting at work when I can sneak it in. As far as budget goes, there isn't one. All I need is a camera, a computer, and copies of Twin Peaks, and I already had all those things anyway.
Mindblown rn. Your channel deserves more recognition man ❤❤
Thank you for sharing your analysis and creativity. I enjoy your videos immensely.
Absolutely brilliant! Keep 'em coming x
I really hope these videos get a second wind on the old algorithm. They are so, so well done. Thanks
You're welcome, though I'm perfectly happy with the wind they've gotten already. I'd far prefer my non-Peaks material get around to catching their first wind.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I vote both then. Kudos and will go give those interactions
I've been a committed peaks fan for years... And i just saw this video. Best analysis I've seen! You just earned yourself a subscriber from one video! Now to check 1-3... :)
I always find myself coming back to these series of videos. How cool would it have been to see Major Briggs try to save Coop!?!
Outstanding, elaborate analysis. Well done, friend.
Dude I love your videos! Keep up the great work
Please make more, I love these videos
Great job as always! Keep em coming!!
Love your episodes. Great work. Good job man.
god damn thats some good production for a YT channel let alone one with 10k subs!! Not to mention this video is very enlightening on the story of s3 and entire series
Please don’t ever stop making videos about Twin Peaks! I watch your videos over and over!🤪
There will be another three, but after that there's dozens of other things I want to get on with.
Keep making these videos, these are the only way i can understand my favorite show
This is probably the best "Twin Peaks explained" video I have ever seen. Thank you. I love you
I really don’t understand the purpose of destroying the world in this context. Death is the only way to get out of this world. Jack was there and he said it is going well for him and you.
@@alexsavage8351... Wat?
I was thinking about watching Twin Peaks Season 3 again then decided to watch your videos instead. I think your Twin Peaks Videos are masterful. You are a Rock Star. You are like Eddie Vedder at the Roadhouse. Thanks.
I missed Twin Peaks originally (I didn't have a TV!). But I saw one episode at a friends house in 1990. I was intrigued. In 98 I watched Fire 🔥 Walk with me on Tv and loved it. Then in 2005 I got series 1 on DVD. Although I knew who killed Laura already, it didn't ruin my enjoyment. Clever video man. I'm still hooked. I want a 4th series. Can't get enough of Twin Peaks!
Awesome video, I love the editing, so much effort
Thumbs up even before I've watched this, already knows its gonna be great!
I really admire your dedication to Twin Peaks. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, though be aware that I finished this series years ago.
Not sure if this was mentioned elsewhere, but the socket numbers also correspond with the episode numbers. In episode 3, Coop switches places with Dougie after coming through the socket. In episode 15, he sticks a fork in a socket, setting up the return of Original Coop.
Yes, it's been mentioned multiple times. However, Lynch and Frost wrote one long script and didn't even know how many episodes Showtime was going to give them, so I doubt seriously if they had any clue which episodes would contain those events when it was written.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicksum, considering that David Lynch just notoriously films ad hoc regardless of script, I'm gonna say that of course they "knew" how many episodes they had by the time of production, because you know, Showtime have other productions, and they don't just say "yeah, everyone, take all the time you want. Don't worry about a filming schedule, we'll just get everyone to work to your schedule Mr. Lynch." and lynch made the appropriate changes being the good transcendental boy scout he is.
As for mark frost, it's well known that Lynch doesn't even really consider half his contribution as part of his "canon" for lack of a better term.
People need to actually see Lunch at work. Yea he is an artist. He is also a producer however IYK... YK .