Pro Tip; all "Aerospace grade carbon fiber" means is that is certified to go on an aircraft, so in a shoe sole all that means is... you're gonna have to pay a lot more for it
On paper the aero space carbon fibers flexibility can be 20-50% more than with regular carbon fiber. I have never touched carbon fiber tho so I’m gonna have to see how this translates to real life applications
@Sulk coming from the person who said to trust it because it’s right in front of you? That’s what a scam essentially is. Need to reconsider who’s IQ you are referring to
@Sulk bro they're talking bullshit. And you just proved that you'd believe anything you see, you just need a man saying random words in order without any real explaination😂😂😂 nike has the shoes and soles both included 150$, this company is selling just the soles at 170$ who in the fucking right mind with iq above 20 would buy this? It's pretty ironic that you made an "low IQ" comment lol.
@Sulk maybe do you what you just said you sped your have room temperature iq he didnt show anything in the video his only source was trust me bro and these guys are making reviews on their own product which already should tell you that it’s useless
You’re wrong about the Vaporfly s. They are designed with forefoot/mid foot striking in Mind, when the shoe hits the ground the plate expands towards the ground and it springs Back into its original state and that transition gives a forward push/energy return. So the Nike plate design is superior.
Exactly what I was thinking too - the plate doesn’t need you to input extra energy to bend it like the vktry ones, but it will spring back just the same
Yeah, Nike puts more money into research and design than any other shoe company. If it was as easy as just making a shoe with a slightly convex sheet of carbon fiber they'd have done that decades ago
@@tuamigoyvecinolevi for a non douchebag answer: Elluid Kipchoge is a Nike sponsored runner from Kenya and currently holds the marathon world record of 2:01:09. He also broke the legendary 2 hour barrier (unofficially), with the help of many pacers, which ensured he was going the right speed and to block the wind. On his feet were a version of the alphafly, nike's most advanced running shoe. The shoe utilizes a combination of zoom x foam (pebax tpe), a carbon fiber plate, and zoom air pods (pockets of air and tensile fibers designed for maximum energy return).
This wouldn't even help your jump. There's way too much weight and people can't bend their feet like they bend these soles. It's just a scam to sucker people out of $170
The nike vapor fly carbon plate is NOT designed to transition from heel to toe. That’s why there is a larger width at the toe than the heel and why it is curved upwards at the back. No Nike running shoe or spike is designed to transition from heel to toe while running, that is false. Maybe these soles are good for basketball, but not for track. It is not necessary and the Nike spikes are more adapted and engineered for running and sprinting. These soles will give you no advantage for track and will cost you an extra $200 for a pair of soles. Please do not buy these for track or running, you can much easier get a Nike or other running brand shoe that already has the same if not better technology for much much cheaper.
I would like to see the data on the long-term effects of having a jolt of unnatural energy shoot through your feet every time you take a step. Maybe it's fine, just seems odd to me haha.
Ok, I had my reservations about this product, but decided to give it the benefit of the doubt. That was because the Nike vaporfly existed, a similar product that gave a statistical advantage to runners, backed by data and also banned for this reason in competitions. But seeing how they're now trying to undermine the vaporflys engineering, VKTRY looks highly suspicious. Not to mention the aggressive, buzzword loaded, and weak misleading demonstrations in their advertising. Also it looks painful as hell to use, the vaporflys actually also have foam padding and conforms to your running motion, unlike this rigid hunk of junk that will tear your arches. Your feet aren't meant to absorb that much force directly, whether it's running or jumping,.
“When you pick your heel up” - thats where you lose energy, (or input a lot of energy). And yes you get some back, but not much. On the other hand if you forefoot strike on Nike plate, your heel shoots up “effortless”. Because you convert gravitational potential energy which accumulated during “fly” phase into kinetic energy upon landing.
Physics favors nike here. That stored energy will lower life of the insole. The resistance built up will be felt over the top of the shoe laces. It will disrupt natural roll cadence. The Nike is even better for running without heel contact.
it does the same thing and that shape gives you more energy because when you press heel while striking the toe section is even gonna go higher and if you press that angled toe section you will basicly have vktory insole since nike plate not desinged to be flat that shank will pop even more giving you a lot of energy and boost. btw you can not make arguler plate in a insole thats why they cappin about nike
I can't comment on these but I'm curious. I can say that the Saucony endorphin pros make you faster. I bet all of these carbon plates do. You can feel the spring.
The things is where the dip is in the sole that’s where the energy pods are so the energy storage isn’t much needed as the energy pods help on that stride but all together it’s a marathon shoe not sprinting shoe so you don’t need power generating from the back of the shoe you need more in the middle of the shoe, where the energy pods are. The insoles can make you jump higher but not by much. So 150 dollars for 1 inch higher vert is crazy in my opinion.
Looks as if you will encounter resistance while running or walking cause the insert will want to stay flat. Looks like it may be good for jumping but you will use a lot of energy just by walking or running around.
I don't think people's feet bend the way the vktry plate was demonstrated to bend during a run. you either land on your forefoot or your heel but your foot DOES NOT bend as demonstrated(your toes bend at the tarsal joints) but not the foot. if this shoe is going to bend the way it is demonstrated then I am sure there will be alot of injuries just running normally.
Lmao I pity the people who really thinks a freaking carbon plate can give them a “pop” when they use it in the shoe. No amount of tech in a shoe can increase your vertical or speed on the court. It can affect your comfort though.
Both are still not foot shaped. Why do most companies make shoes that aren't foot shaped?! That's like wearing mittens that smash your fingers together...for years.
So they are saying their product stores more energy because it starts out flat. But then again, the runner would have to exert more energy to bend that stiff carbon plate. Science!
There's no way they create enough force to increase someone's vertical tho. Flipping an 8 oz shoe up in the air is one thing, but to flip the body weight up of an athlete wearing them is another. This is such BS.
Thats no a vaporfly carbon plate, and if that was the plate of the vaporfly, it wouldn't be bent like that once it is inside the foam of the shoe. Do better research
You have to be crazy to wear carbon fiber INSOLES when running. Ouch. And I don't see how a FLAT carbon insert propels you forward. Nike's actually makes sense
I have a question. I’m a server in a fine dining restaurant that requires me to be on my feet for many extended hours. Would these reduce foot and leg fatigue from simply walking and standing for long periods of time?
Regular store inserts are the same help without all the extra $$. There are a few factors to determine product. The most important part is start with a supportive shoe that doesn't allow the foot to move too much inside it. High or flat arches, how you roll your foot while stepping and ankle stability during turns and stops will all affect muscle fatigue. Chiropractic treatment can help to even the force applied to each foot while walking. If the Chiro claims they have a product or service that can "cure" anything, including your back pain, tho, run away.
Nike did this so professionallys can wear this without the product getting banned from use in professional games an get batter marketing/sales cause they can't say they cheating by any enhance unnatural advantage but ur soles are cool the snap back action is a basic but very very useful simple way of propulsion
Man at the end of the day its not making you faster or even pick your foot up quicker. Its a scam. They filmed sum ad at my old Hs and ahit was total Bs
Nikes is WEDGED between there misole which is made of patent foam made for running shoes . Those are on your foot its not the same as on the shoe itself
With how easy it was for him to bend the vktry plate shows how little energy it is actually storing. Put a 10-15 stone man on top of that and your vertical will have a neglible difference. If they want to dispute this post the actual amount of stored potential energy at a realistic bend on the plate that is possible with human feet and we can calculate it exactly.
This is bullshit the Nike carbon plate is in combination with zoomxfoam that gives also energy return. Your carbon soles will just be ass for running. Because it is not placed in the shoe foam
@@zepperdepep no really, we play real fast double bass drums. My feetsetup is chuck taylors hitops that are tight, and a 800€ machine aluminum direct drive pedals. Then like some people put these rebound pads on the skin of the drum, i play naked remo ps3 BUT it has to be fresh and tight. So someone here, the sole guys, saying i could have conserved energy for the next stroke: this woul lead to a higher natural frequency of the swivel motion->faster speed with same muscle power input. Random still?
@@Sp_acecowboy have you studied even high school physics? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elastic_energy . So it’s not creating the energy, rather every downstroke(step) you preload a spring, that bounces ones foot up when downwards pressure is stopped. Double bass pedals use springs, so all you in actuality have to do is stepping on the pedal, then the skin and spring rebounds it. With those converse, if theyre brand new they help. And after some 3 months the sole starts seperating for the forces it has recieved…
The difference:
Nike: shoes and soles for $169
This product: only soles for $169
it’s 500
This product also minus slave labour.
@@hamoodstaryg1176 what is?
And it's illegal in all sports, and they're selling it as sports product😂😂😂 how idiotic can someone be
You can order from Ali baba or spenco one for Way cheaper.
Pro Tip; all "Aerospace grade carbon fiber" means is that is certified to go on an aircraft, so in a shoe sole all that means is... you're gonna have to pay a lot more for it
“Aerospace grade” one of the best selling words for some products
On paper the aero space carbon fibers flexibility can be 20-50% more than with regular carbon fiber. I have never touched carbon fiber tho so I’m gonna have to see how this translates to real life applications
Aircraft grade aluminium 🔥
@@user-wn6pb3tu6xaircraft grade plastic 😩
I prefer military-grade carbon fiber. 😂
A flat plate means you're going to be fighting the plate every time you flex your foot. It's really gonna mess with your biomechanics.
Man, this company really paying out the ass to get in the youtube algorith
Source: trust me bro
@Sulk quit sulking
@Sulk coming from the person who said to trust it because it’s right in front of you? That’s what a scam essentially is. Need to reconsider who’s IQ you are referring to
@Sulk can you explain to me what you saw?
@Sulk bro they're talking bullshit. And you just proved that you'd believe anything you see, you just need a man saying random words in order without any real explaination😂😂😂 nike has the shoes and soles both included 150$, this company is selling just the soles at 170$ who in the fucking right mind with iq above 20 would buy this?
It's pretty ironic that you made an "low IQ" comment lol.
@Sulk maybe do you what you just said you sped your have room temperature iq he didnt show anything in the video his only source was trust me bro and these guys are making reviews on their own product which already should tell you that it’s useless
You’re wrong about the Vaporfly s. They are designed with forefoot/mid foot striking in Mind, when the shoe hits the ground the plate expands towards the ground and it springs Back into its original state and that transition gives a forward push/energy return. So the Nike plate design is superior.
Yeah boi said "smooth heel to toe transition" like cmon tell me you know nothing about running.
Exactly what I was thinking too - the plate doesn’t need you to input extra energy to bend it like the vktry ones, but it will spring back just the same
This
Yeah, Nike puts more money into research and design than any other shoe company. If it was as easy as just making a shoe with a slightly convex sheet of carbon fiber they'd have done that decades ago
Lol you really have no clue what the Alphafly is or who Eliot’s Kepchoge is…
@@Devil_Dog_Ultra I don't, care to elaborate?
@@tuamigoyvecinolevi the alphafly is the best carbon shoe. If you don’t know Kipchoge you have no reason to watch this video
@@Devil_Dog_Ultra what an “elitist” reply 😂
@@tuamigoyvecinolevi for a non douchebag answer:
Elluid Kipchoge is a Nike sponsored runner from Kenya and currently holds the marathon world record of 2:01:09.
He also broke the legendary 2 hour barrier (unofficially), with the help of many pacers, which ensured he was going the right speed and to block the wind. On his feet were a version of the alphafly, nike's most advanced running shoe. The shoe utilizes a combination of zoom x foam (pebax tpe), a carbon fiber plate, and zoom air pods (pockets of air and tensile fibers designed for maximum energy return).
Wouldn’t it take more energy to bend your foot??? Is this just for jumping? Because I feel like it would make you a slower runner.
Exactly and that’s why it’s bs
This wouldn't even help your jump. There's way too much weight and people can't bend their feet like they bend these soles. It's just a scam to sucker people out of $170
Can someone please explain to these guys how conservation of energy works.
The nike vapor fly carbon plate is NOT designed to transition from heel to toe. That’s why there is a larger width at the toe than the heel and why it is curved upwards at the back. No Nike running shoe or spike is designed to transition from heel to toe while running, that is false. Maybe these soles are good for basketball, but not for track. It is not necessary and the Nike spikes are more adapted and engineered for running and sprinting. These soles will give you no advantage for track and will cost you an extra $200 for a pair of soles. Please do not buy these for track or running, you can much easier get a Nike or other running brand shoe that already has the same if not better technology for much much cheaper.
I would like to see the data on the long-term effects of having a jolt of unnatural energy shoot through your feet every time you take a step. Maybe it's fine, just seems odd to me haha.
Personally i never even thought that far ahead but your way of thinking will save you from many headaches in life
I would only use it in races or games not practice
I have a theory it might have a chance to increase the risk of stress fractures on your bones, but I'm honestly not sure there.
@@Kevinpbryant69999 your feet may be sore if you don't get used to use. Break it in and then save it for game day.
Carbon go brrr
What about the energy it takes to bend it..
Ok, I had my reservations about this product, but decided to give it the benefit of the doubt. That was because the Nike vaporfly existed, a similar product that gave a statistical advantage to runners, backed by data and also banned for this reason in competitions. But seeing how they're now trying to undermine the vaporflys engineering, VKTRY looks highly suspicious.
Not to mention the aggressive, buzzword loaded, and weak misleading demonstrations in their advertising. Also it looks painful as hell to use, the vaporflys actually also have foam padding and conforms to your running motion, unlike this rigid hunk of junk that will tear your arches. Your feet aren't meant to absorb that much force directly, whether it's running or jumping,.
When you pick your heel up is when you lose energy. It should store max energy when you land.
“When you pick your heel up” - thats where you lose energy, (or input a lot of energy). And yes you get some back, but not much. On the other hand if you forefoot strike on Nike plate, your heel shoots up “effortless”. Because you convert gravitational potential energy which accumulated during “fly” phase into kinetic energy upon landing.
This is why you put them both together
Bc the Nike plate is in the actual shoe right ?
As a snowboarder totally makes sense vktry is a camber which allows more pop takes more to load weight on camber though but worth it
Physics favors nike here.
That stored energy will lower life of the insole.
The resistance built up will be felt over the top of the shoe laces.
It will disrupt natural roll cadence.
The Nike is even better for running without heel contact.
it does the same thing and that shape gives you more energy because when you press heel while striking the toe section is even gonna go higher and if you press that angled toe section you will basicly have vktory insole since nike plate not desinged to be flat that shank will pop even more giving you a lot of energy and boost. btw you can not make arguler plate in a insole thats why they cappin about nike
Bro I am not paying 160 bucks for insoles ☠️
Ikr😢
So, one is designed for running, the other for jumping. Except the vapor fly actually does its job and is worth the price
I can't comment on these but I'm curious. I can say that the Saucony endorphin pros make you faster. I bet all of these carbon plates do. You can feel the spring.
That’s bs, the vaporfly plate is not flat with the heel, it does have energy return
It’s funny how they never showed how springy the vapor fly plate is
Bro, its just an elastic piece of carbon fibre 💀
The things is where the dip is in the sole that’s where the energy pods are so the energy storage isn’t much needed as the energy pods help on that stride but all together it’s a marathon shoe not sprinting shoe so you don’t need power generating from the back of the shoe you need more in the middle of the shoe, where the energy pods are. The insoles can make you jump higher but not by much. So 150 dollars for 1 inch higher vert is crazy in my opinion.
Vaporfly doesn’t have air pockets mate
Looks as if you will encounter resistance while running or walking cause the insert will want to stay flat. Looks like it may be good for jumping but you will use a lot of energy just by walking or running around.
Use both at the same time🔥
I would love to try them but that price is insane
No one running like heel to toe on alphafly bruhhh 😂
So... What is happening with back of your foot? Your shoes drop from back :).
Tie your shoes 😂
Probably not the best soles for your crocs.
That’s like saying who has better shoes Nike or Vktry
I don't think people's feet bend the way the vktry plate was demonstrated to bend during a run. you either land on your forefoot or your heel but your foot DOES NOT bend as demonstrated(your toes bend at the tarsal joints) but not the foot. if this shoe is going to bend the way it is demonstrated then I am sure there will be alot of injuries just running normally.
Lmao I pity the people who really thinks a freaking carbon plate can give them a “pop” when they use it in the shoe. No amount of tech in a shoe can increase your vertical or speed on the court. It can affect your comfort though.
Is is allowed in Olympic sprinting?
Here’s a good idea: put them both together
Aerospace grade means it has type certification approved by the FAA. This product definitely does not!
Thanks for this 😅🎉😂❤
Wouldnt it take energy to bend it in the first place?
Yeah and you would have to break your foot to bend your foot like that
So the new soles actually help with accurate jumping instead of higher jumping
Did they burn the Nike olate
Both are still not foot shaped. Why do most companies make shoes that aren't foot shaped?! That's like wearing mittens that smash your fingers together...for years.
So they are saying their product stores more energy because it starts out flat. But then again, the runner would have to exert more energy to bend that stiff carbon plate. Science!
So its a cheat for 100 meter run?
There's no way they create enough force to increase someone's vertical tho. Flipping an 8 oz shoe up in the air is one thing, but to flip the body weight up of an athlete wearing them is another. This is such BS.
You haven't tried those new landmine shoes huh?
Insert :
Bending to much my foot to jump like that
When ur distance running yoy dont want that stiff of a plate, and if yoy have correct running form you should not be landing on your heel
Most people aren’t bending their feet that far when running
I don't have extra fingers to lift the plate
This isn’t factual at all
Why not just put literal Springs in there? LOL
Theres a reason why nobody has done that 😂 and if a brand has theres a reason you dont see them in stores
In skiing we call the shape that the vktry sole has a camber
Didn't the Nike plate demolish the Boston Marathon record?
My feet is not gonna bend in half when jumping lmao. Shoes barely bend when jumping so this insole is just piece of shit that is 200 bucks
Your supposed to strike on fore foot not on heel when running 💀
Thats no a vaporfly carbon plate, and if that was the plate of the vaporfly, it wouldn't be bent like that once it is inside the foam of the shoe. Do better research
You have to be crazy to wear carbon fiber INSOLES when running. Ouch. And I don't see how a FLAT carbon insert propels you forward. Nike's actually makes sense
Just made a bigger whooooosh noise for the other one 😂😂😂😂
This will cause over exhaustion when comes to training.
no that's not how it would work
How to order sir?
I have a question. I’m a server in a fine dining restaurant that requires me to be on my feet for many extended hours. Would these reduce foot and leg fatigue from simply walking and standing for long periods of time?
Im 99% sure this doesnt do anything at all if it was such a game changer they wouldnt be the only ones talking about their product
Regular store inserts are the same help without all the extra $$. There are a few factors to determine product. The most important part is start with a supportive shoe that doesn't allow the foot to move too much inside it. High or flat arches, how you roll your foot while stepping and ankle stability during turns and stops will all affect muscle fatigue. Chiropractic treatment can help to even the force applied to each foot while walking. If the Chiro claims they have a product or service that can "cure" anything, including your back pain, tho, run away.
probably not, maybe even make it worse
get proper custom insoles and work on strength training for your feet
It would probably hurt ur feet slamming on a carbon insole rather than one smushed inbetween foam
Can I add these to my Reebok Legacy Lifters 2s and would these be something I need to acknowledge in a USAW competition?
no, don't try Vktry Insole. It is jugglery
@@Andre72495 I bought them, they are great. I recommend. Have 3 pairs as well, 1 for cleats as well.
Aerospace grade 😂😂😂
I can bring gum on an airplane just fine
Nike did this so professionallys can wear this without the product getting banned from use in professional games an get batter marketing/sales cause they can't say they cheating by any enhance unnatural advantage but ur soles are cool the snap back action is a basic but very very useful simple way of propulsion
Damn. You read that after you typed it and said, " yeah , this looks good and makes sense"
And that's wild af. 😆 🤣
How many stats add when you equip this item
+10 placebo
+5 weight
+1 agility
-160 money
Man at the end of the day its not making you faster or even pick your foot up quicker. Its a scam. They filmed sum ad at my old Hs and ahit was total Bs
Nikes is WEDGED between there misole which is made of patent foam made for running shoes . Those are on your foot its not the same as on the shoe itself
I just ordered mine today! Cant wait to try them out! 🏀
I hope not, if so you got ripped off 😂
cancel ur order asap you bouta get scammed
Okay I canceled guys, shouldve done my research beforehand. Good looking out
POV: 250 AUD plus shipping for a pair of insoles that make you jump only about half an inch higher
Me: Nah imma do my own thing
Everything carbon fiber sheet start flat
There're many reason why Nike choose not to do so
Let’s be honest, who heal strikes anyway
can i get a VKTRY sole for 50$
then i will buy it but not for 169$
With how easy it was for him to bend the vktry plate shows how little energy it is actually storing. Put a 10-15 stone man on top of that and your vertical will have a neglible difference. If they want to dispute this post the actual amount of stored potential energy at a realistic bend on the plate that is possible with human feet and we can calculate it exactly.
Goodluck with the comfort in long runs 😂. Also stop the aerospace carbon gimmick.
Vapor fly’s are designed for marathons vktrys aren’t
But you can't push off of your shoe that is attached to you to get more momentum. That makes no sense
🤣
They call that rocker vs camber
I need this soundtrack.
Will you guys give me some insolesplz
This is bullshit the Nike carbon plate is in combination with zoomxfoam that gives also energy return. Your carbon soles will just be ass for running. Because it is not placed in the shoe foam
ah shit, space carbon
Tell me it’s a scam with out telling me it’s a scam
Save your money. Do lots of foot exercises. Google
kenyan barefoot runners. Our feet are natural meant to be springs.
I wanna see someone skate with them
You would lose your board. Guarantee.
Stop the cap he used one hand for the Nike one and 2 hands for the overrated Viktory
Why do I care about aerospace grade?
Yo last time I check some feet it can't bend that much
This is a scam. Youre better of buying good running racing shoes, like Vaporfly.
This do not help you at All. Every single person promoting them are paid and sent free shit. Their support chat tells you they don’t work if you ask
Where can I get these
the trash bin
This is very expensive. So you should work on your plyometrics man
Heel to toe really?
I need that
Put them both on a scale
As a death metal drummer i am interested in this product and did follow this page
So random
@@zepperdepep no really, we play real fast double bass drums. My feetsetup is chuck taylors hitops that are tight, and a 800€ machine aluminum direct drive pedals. Then like some people put these rebound pads on the skin of the drum, i play naked remo ps3 BUT it has to be fresh and tight.
So someone here, the sole guys, saying i could have conserved energy for the next stroke: this woul lead to a higher natural frequency of the swivel motion->faster speed with same muscle power input.
Random still?
@@JerryCrow you do realize it's just a scam right 🤣 lmk when you can invert your foot for the extra energy and have that energy lift up your weight 🤣
@@Sp_acecowboy have you studied even high school physics? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elastic_energy .
So it’s not creating the energy, rather every downstroke(step) you preload a spring, that bounces ones foot up when downwards pressure is stopped.
Double bass pedals use springs, so all you in actuality have to do is stepping on the pedal, then the skin and spring rebounds it. With those converse, if theyre brand new they help. And after some 3 months the sole starts seperating for the forces it has recieved…
@@JerryCrow spend ya money then 🤣I ain't the one that finna be butthurt
lower the prices then u will get alot more sales
Bro keep it up you are going to build this company into a billion dollar company 🎉
negative billion
Not bias at all
Carbon? ._.