EcoFlow PowerStream - 10 Things You Don't Hear
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Some limitations of the EcoFlow PowerStream that many reviewers and probably EcoFlow are less keen to discuss.
Please don't see this as a negative review. The PowerStream is a great product that works well and is incredibly useful. However, I bought this unit so I can cover all these points. There's no way that most reviewers would cover a product this way if it had been sent to them. There would definitely need to be a little more balance. If you're happy with all these limitations, you know you've got a product that you will be 100% happy with!
00:00 - Introduction & Firmware Tested
01:10 - Mains Power Demand & Automation
05:23 - Heat Considerations
07:15 - Solar Input on PowerStream & Battery
08:42 - Lost Battery Port
09:29 - Battery Charging Limitations
10:21 - Solar Input Limitations
11:04 - Short Cables
11:34 - More Power Needed
14:08 - Not for Power Outages
14:43 - Using PowerStream with Expansion Battery Only
15:43 - Conclusion
I'm discussing the UK 800W variant here and all points are correct at the time of recording. Fortunately, EcoFlow are releasing regular firmware updates so hopefully, things will be fixed and improved in the future.
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I am reviewing this as a Delta Max user. My experiences are with that product. If you have any experience with the River or Delta Pro products that are different from my findings, please do post this here so others can find out too. 👍🏻
Hi how have you stop yours from over heating thanks & is it still working
Big thanks for this honest review. I planned to buy POWERSTREAM and you just confirmed the big problem about cable length.
You also put light on other limitations i did not expect. Thank you
Glad you found it useful. 👍🏻
A lot of good info here. I will share the video with my solar class so you get some extra views. I have just subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work.
Thanks.. Very usefull video.
good information, thank you.
Evening, great video. I am enjoying my Powerstream and understand all of these shortfalls. It does have it limits but still think it’s a great system for the price. I have an issue where by, mine will randomly output 600w max from the battery even though base load is only set to 30/50w and smart plugs usage is no where near that, it’s so strange, seems to happen when I add a new smart plug to the mix.
Have you noticed this? Seems to come and go, so frustrating! All my solar generation is going to the neighbours and not me !!!
Thanks
Thanks for the video.
I'm looking at getting a Delta Max (2000) and a transfer switch for the sake of having basic power when an outage occurs - I'm talking lights, 2 routers and TV and fridge. I'll also be getting some EcFlow portable solar panels to help alleviate the constant need to charge the Delta Max with grid power.
Any thoughts on this, being a PowerStream Balcony system user?
Good day. Can you clarify if AC out from power stream could be directly plugged into an outlet supplied from local distribution energy source like a grid? Thanks.
Here's something I couldn't find any info on. Can you have a delta max conected to and running a wave AC as well as charging via powerstream? Any info appreciated, love your videos
Wireless CT clamp for the mains incomer would fix the need for smart plugs. Very simple and safe to install.
Sell you one CT clamp or sell you six smart plugs....
There are several things I don't think are not mentioned here that are important and downsides
1. It's tied to a management server in China, all automation goes via it so if they go away or geopolitical stuff happens - poof you mostly own a brick
2. The moment you want more than maybe 2KWh it's incredibly expensive compared to proper wired in solutions (and except in a small flat you will want more than 2KWh once you dabble ;)) so it's actually not a good beginning as you can't upgrade it to the size you'll want
3. The 12v output of the units is only a bit over 100W. That prevents you using a lot of the camping/caravan style efficient 12v kit to save power
4. The automation is very limited unless you install 3rd party tools (which still all depend on China)
5. The range on the powerstream wifi is dire, and the smartplugs likewise. Fine for the intended small Chinese/European apartment but not good anywhere else
6. Their support is now terribly slow, and returns even slower (big issue as their QA is also iffy - just check how often they have refurb units for sale).
The EPS mode with solar they added in firmware is excellent though if your use case is emergency backup and you want to also get the benefit from solar, as is the ability now to stack solar on the battery and the powerstream.
Never buy their kit except on a special special offer with coupons and all the rest. If you missed the sale just wait a couple of weeks and there will be another one.
As for the battery/solar + powerstream/solar, it works with my river2max. I have 2x100W panels connected to it, and 2x400w panels directly to powerstream. And I've set river2max to turn on 12V plug > Powerstream when it's charged over 80%. So it sends maximum 100W via 12v, which is cool for my purpose.
While Powerstream and 2x400W panels through day sends the maximum it gets from solar to the grid or devices in my house.
Do you wonder if you could add to this Delta 2. And have something like that: Solars > Powersteram that is connected to Delta 2. Then stick 12V plug to River2 and connect it to Delta via XT connector . River connect to solars via free XT port.
This way you could have a dual charging ( 100W but still) from River2 ( connected to solars) and from Powerstream.
Would it work or software would block it and use energy that goes through solars/powersterm???
@@BogdanWiewiorka Ive done it!
2x400w directly via Powerstream and 2x100w via river 2 max to Powerstream and works daily without a problem!
@@vedranart Am I correct in thinking that the energy can only flow in one direction when Powerstream is connected to a River Series battery? i.e. there is no way the Powerstream can send energy into the River via the 12v cigarette lighter connection? So all solar energy going through Powerstream MPPTs must either be fed into home wiring or else it is clipped?
Hey,
do you know if there is a way to connect 2 powerstreams to a single battery? input would be via the first powerstream and the delta pros internal inverter. the second powerstream would be used to outpot 1200W peak from that battery.
BR,
Hey thanks for the video! .. Is it possible to run power stream without any batteries? Like just the solar panel and power stream only directly to the grid
Yes. It will work but what I have found is that it can be a little unreliable coming back on in the morning when it powers back up. Remember that the whole thing naturally turns off when it gets dark and you can’t access it via the app etc.
Power Flex for entire house would require the smart meter (big version of the plug) just before your fuse box. Which is possible with external power draw meters with hoops. Something they might look into if they read this ;)
I wonder if you could have something like that: Solars > Powersteram that is connected to Delta 2. Then stick 12V plug to River2 and connect it to Delta via XT connector . River connect to 200W solars via free XT port.
This way you could have a charging ( 100W but still) from River2 (200W) and from Powerstream (800W solars).
Would it work or software would block it and use energy that goes through powersterm only???
Hi, I really appreciate your videos on the powerstream, Im pretty new to this and was wondering if you or anybody else could help me regarding sizing panels for use with these. I really like the sound of the bifacial panels and have found a few online that say they are 430w, as I understand it with the rear side power gain this is increased to 525w with 16amp at 32v. If I was to use two of these with the powerstream would it be too much power/wattage? And damage the unit? Thanks in advance
You’d think they could make a CT clamp with BT and WiFi to integrate with the other products to allow scalable AC output and zero export.
Thanks a lot for that video! However good is the product, it is also very useful to hear its limitations which other reviewers tend to go rapidly about… I would have one quick question for you: you rapidly mention in the video the limitations as to charging: I would like to plug in 1 solar panel directly into my Delta 2 (not through the Power stream), as well as charge it through AC when I have some solar surplus from other panels (through a simple smartplug), and use the powerstream only to send electricity to my grid. Is there any limitation to that set up? Thanks a lot in advance for your feedback.
That would work fine. One of the great features of the PowerStream is that you don't need a battery at all. Just plug it into solar and mains and it will back feed what it can. If your Delta 2 was connected up, it would be fine but it wouldn't use excess power to charge the battery.
Hi, My EF system works fine: ☀2x480w Bluesun into EF 800W Powerstream &☀ 1x480w Bluesun into EF Delta Pro - XT60 input ... If I have the household power demand set to 800W in the app, the application shows me that 800W goes to the house network. In this case, as the limit charging the house is max 600W, is 200W leaking into the outside grid ?
Do I need to set the household energy demand to 600W max, so that all the excess solar energy above 600W goes into the Delta Pro battery? Our base load is about 200 W a day and under 100W at night? How to set Up power demand???
Thank you for this review and information.
My guess is it would be wise to not buy this first version, but wait for the Power Steam 2. With the Ecoflow Wave, the second version was significantly a better product.
You're probably right. One would hope that the PS2 (I'm going to steal that name for the purposes of this) would significantly improve on this device. Having it properly certified for use in the UK would be a start. I assume it isn't as it is still pulled from every UK retailer as of September 2023. That said, this is still a great device that has helped me halve my household electricity usage during the 3 main UK solar months.
@TDCatTech hey TD, im having some odd behaviour on my powerstream not sure if you get the same.
Basically whenever I set it to prioritise power supply, it channels all power to the smart plugs + other loads - but other loads is arbitrary and in ridiculous numbers (without sending any to the battery). This is the case even if household power demand is set to 0w.
Do you know whats the cause of this?
No, I’ve never seen this before. Is it connected to main Delta unit (not an extra battery)? I assume you’ve reset the system. By reset, I just mean unplug from everything. I notice that EcoFlow firmware updates are much less frequent now 😢
Czy jest jakieś ograniczenie w dlugości kabla miedzy panelami a powerstimem. Dzieki za dobra robotę 👍
great video man i was actually looking to buy one now I see its way too limited and will not bother
Out of curiosity, which point sways you against it?
@@tdcattech the fact we cannot charge maximum into the battery at the same time supplying the house in the day. I have panels which could easily send 1000watts to battery in the day and another 700 ish into the house as our base load is pretty high. If they had this feature I would definitely still consider it. My needs are basically 700watts constantly 24/7.
Yes, it's a limited device but for higher power applications, you wouldn't use this type of solution. I think there are some legal restrictions on back feeding power this way so they have to cap what goes into the socket. The MPPT controllers are clearly 500W each so I have no idea why they couldn't work as on the Delta Max 2 (2 x 500W). They're probably exactly the same boards so it's odd to cap them to 800W total. Equally, the 600W max into the battery seems just crazy. Not a clue on that.
Hi, I have the delta pro with 700 watts charging to the battery and a 100 watts going to the powerstream directly to the house. So it works for me. The only fault I have is I can only charge the battery from one solar input.
Can I connect the powerstream to my delta pro and use the delta pro solar input and the powerstream solar input at the same time? (to give me extra 800w solar input) . I have an ecoflowsmart home panel so won't be using the power plug on the power stream to feed the house as the smart home panel deals with the whole home demand. I will essentially be using the power stream to give me extra 800w solar input from some spare panels I have lying around.
No you can only use either or
Can you use a powerstream for an off grid house?
Great video. I may be late to the party here but on the "is it legal in the UK"I got this back yesterday from EcoFlow customer service "we are sorry to say that as Powerstream is a Plug & Play product, Plug & Play in the UK is currently not fully compliant with the regulations. Therefore we do not sell Powerstream in the UK at the moment."
A shame as it sounds a great product. Has anyone got any insights on an upgraded product meeting UK regs and/or change from UK end?
Really? That's the first time I've heard Ecoflow openly admit this. Good to hear.
@@tdcattech They've been playing silly games for a while, presumably because they don't want the ones they did sell returned and fined. The issue isn't the product as I understand it from the electrician. He thinks it has to be wired in, and probably with a lockable isolation switch (like any other solar) to meet the BS wiring standards
You can validly use it as a better MPPT for the battery and use the battery outputs to drive a load of stuff. With the newer firmware that makes sense because you can tell the battery to do things like "keep 20% or above and mains on, only charge above 20% using the solar". If you are not getting paid for the power used and you can put enough on it that the battery rarely hits 100% it's not that much of a downer, and you can set whatever %age as you like so it's also a small EPS.
Thank you for your video. I have 2X 410w solar panels with 13A each. Ecoflow powerstream says it can take a maximum of 13A solar input. Does this mean that it can't take 2X 13A 410W solar panels?
You’ll be fine. They actually sound nicely specced for this product. The only thing you have to watch is voltage. My guess would be these are 36V? If so, they’ll be perfect.
@@tdcattechThank you for your speedy reply. Yes they are 410w Lungi solar panels with the voltage of 36v. Ecoflow should release CT clamp based power management rather than smart plug based.
Can you feed let's sat delta pro with 1600w solar then feed back 800 w to home with this ?? Ignoring solar input of power stream
Maybe a bit late of a response but....Yes, you can feed energy into your home without having any solar input into the Powerstream MPPTs. But bear in mind that the connection between the Powerstream and a baterry such as Max or Pro is limited to 600W in either direction, so the only way to backfeed the full 800W that the Powerstream is capable of is to have at least 200W also going into the Powerstream through its solar inputs.
It says right on mind to press and hold it is that west broken
Hi, Living in BE, I have this at this moment without a battery running at max AC output 800W all the time but I'm wondering.... If i connect a delta max 2 or pro can I charge this with another set of solar panels with the XT60 connection of the battery its self? Second, can I daisy chain with 2 delta 2 max and an extra battery. You connect the powerstream to port 1 to port 1 of the extra delta 2 max and from the second max port 2 to just an extra battery? Support have this issue at technical now, but waiting for an aswer now for almost 1 month. I had issue with the new smart plugs, after lattest firmware they enabled mesh but i got random shutdowns and support provided me with an non public firmare resolving this issue within the week.
Your first solution will technically work but it's not practical because the battery would discharge to fill the gap between your solar production and 800W so you could be dumping hundreds of watts from battery into your grid but not using it.
As far as connecting one Delta Max to another, I don't believe this is possible. I'm not sure which one would provide the control in this case. I do have a Delta Max and a Delta Max 2 but I haven't tried it like this yet. Let me know if you hear any differently from EcoFlow because this would be excellent!
@@tdcattech Because I dont have a digital meter at this moment, dumping on the grid is no problem, the grid acts as an extra battery for now :)
I have already got 5 smart plugs, getting 5 more next month, so all devices will get connected, then for lights I will give the PowerStream a baseload of 150W, that was the plan
Hello. Another question from 🇺🇦 here.
What will happen if I power my house during a blackout from a separate hybrid inverter + main battery?
It looks like Powerstream in this case should have baseload setting equal to zero and it will only feed the load required by smart plugs. In other case if baseload setting is above zero and the load disspapears the Powerstream will backfeed the main hybrid inverter and it will simply burn in the garage.
Does Powerstream have any circuitry to prevent this? Socket-to-socket connection looks very straightforward. I also do not think Ecoflow doesn't know about scenario when the house goes off-grid, the infinite sink disspapears but the baring frequency is still generated by a third party inverter.
I would have similar question:
- What if EcoFlow Delta Pro is serving as a "mains" provider?
- What if that EcoFlow Delta Pro is connected with EcoFlow Smart Home Panel Combo?
@@MyroslavOpyrQG if Ecoflow power station does not make a frequency shift during a power outage or does not talk PLC to the microinverter then their design with a wall connector simply gives you no choice, you should consider It is safe to use it when the grid is formed by other Ecoflow device.
But the problem is *they will never officially confirm this*.
Actually it is logic to consider it safe. Powerstream generates only that power which is requested by their smart plugs + baseload, so the system is in balance. But will you risk your device to check it before blackout season starts?
Hey TDcat, I can confirm that the Delta 2 Battery works with Powerstream both ways!
Do you mean as a standalone power source without any need for an actual power station?
Yes. It will now backfeed power in just like the Delta 2. Mustve been a firmware update.@@tdcattech
Thanks for confirming. I will have to retest that one and see if it works now with the original Delta Max extra battery (I don't currently have a Delta 2 Max extra battery)
great video but why cant you buy the power stream in the UK ? plus back feed does not work ?
Back feed definitely works but the consensus seems to be that UK regulations require approval before something like this can be used which may be the reason that they're being held from the UK market. I'm only repeating others here though. I have not investigated this at all.
@@tdcattech thank you we will wait until the inverter becomes available in the UK
If this thing cannot be used off-grid anyway, then what is the reason of having a battery? Can I use with no battery at all? I just want a photovoltaic in my balcony providing kWh to my house which will lower the demand of kWh coming from the grid. Is that possible?
Solar powers the mains and charges the battery in the day and the battery powers the mains at night. 🔋 Yes, you can just use this with solar where you dump whatever you generate into your mains to offset usage (800W max). There’s a lot of potentially wasted energy doing it that way but it works great. 👍🏻
Would power stream work in US?
Can you use x2 800watt systems meaning smart plugs can configure to one or other or would they conflict..
I have two 800s installed along with 6 plugs,and two max 2 batteries on a separate 30a mains circuit,to the house in my garage ,they can be configured as if separate systems in the app,also if you put a load on any plug say like my heatgun at 1300w the two powerstreams work together to cover the load.
This setup is temporary as I brought second one for family member,just thought I would try both together,works with
No conflictions occurring,when you are in the "Space Tab" double tapping the Solar tab shows you the two sets of panel inputs.
Battery info show average battery percentage of both batteries plus combined watts back feeding,tapping on battery shows individual levels.
Tapping on Powerstream icon shows you both units displayed separately giving you Solar,Home, Battery in/output data,and access to settings.
I don't own an extra battery for my Delta 2 Max, so with a single Powerstream attached I still have the second expansion port free. I'm wondering whether a second Powerstream could be connected into that. Did you try connecting two Powerstreams into a single Delta 2 Max?
I was thinking about it again, ordered one from Germany, someone in Eco flow Group said use a smart plug to Charge from Mains he said you can do automation and setting so not to waste any Sun, Its very scare after all. Make a good video. At last getting my own so , Can leave you in Peace mate.
Hi Mine is now in the UK going to pay the tax & going to fit a heat sink with fans to keep it cool
EcoFlow needs to develop a smart wireless ct clamp that measure at your meter then uses that to deal with the demand
The real shame is rhat you cant have 2x400w panels connected to both the powerstream and the delta2 max
I am east west facing, so its either power in the morning, or the afternoon.
Was hoping to have one east and obe west facing panel on each device
Latest update on my max2/powerstream allows this now.
Someone must have listened to TDcat
@@dangerman7408 waiting for the update to hit mine, got the d2m update a couple of days ago
Thank you for your video. You have mentioned that it can be possible to use 500 W solar panel for one input. Are you sure with that ? P.s. greetings from Ukraine 🇺🇦
Yes, you can use any rating you want as long as it doesn't exceed 55V (I imagine a 500W panel will be around 36V). In my experience, each input is capable of 500W even though the two together cannot do more than 800W so yes, if you attached two 500W panels at different angles to the sun, you'd have nice coverage.
@@tdcattech thank you for your reply. I will be definitely use 450 W panels. We might have a hard winter in Kyiv so preparation has started since last year. :)
I wish you well and hope that the winter is good for Kyiv and Ukraine as a whole.
@@tdcattechthank you
The Version 2 is coming out. Has ENA approval. So hoping to get paid for exporting energy...I was hoping not to buy the Power station, Saw a video with 1 guy using 2rd party power station with a Cigarette lighter Battery cable from Ecoflo uses an All-Powers station instead. Difficult to see if I could just use 12v batteries without owning or getting a demonstration Model. Thanks for your Video. Not sure if Octopus will even approve it without a Flexiorb certificate... But thinking if I get am Export MPN myself octopus would agree the export tariff.
Ecoflow exchanged the dead powerstream. Back in business 🤞
why has this not got a fan? to keep it cool
I guess the whole thing is one big heat sink and, given the environment this is designed to be used in, you wouldn’t want a fan running 24/7 or intermittently. It’s amazing that it’s quiet but it does get hot!!
2nd question (sorry) How did you see that powerstream can only feed 600w of solar to the battery ?
Just through using it. Any more than 600W has to either be fed into the mains circuit or the device will cap the solar input to 600W.
@@tdcattech ok thats a bit annoying since they say 800w…
It brings 800W in on solar and 800W will back feed into the main circuit but just not into the battery. Disappointing but more odd than anything else as I'm positive it's capable.
Actually you can do a lot more with this, but you have to be a bit handy with scripting and API's...
With the delta max 2 you can input 800w from one plug I believe, no need to separate it in 2 cables right ?
Do you mean on solar? If so, 500W per port.
Thank you !@@tdcattech
So they don't include a battery cable. So you buy this and a delta 2 max and a spare battery. Powerstream caps 550 watts to around 100 watts. I know I should have looked into this more but quite honestly it went back and I am happy with 4kw and two separate panel arrays going into the two xt60 sockets on the one delta 2 max unit. I need to watch your video a few times as I have 3 of the smart sockets sat here. Do I have another go? Buy the battery cable and stick some more panels up with a separate feed to powerstream? Addictive but I threw my toys out the pram when there was no battery cable included and it all went to shit lol
No, you're right. This does need to be ordered separately as I guess they don't know which variant you need and won't provide all three. In this video, I'm talking about the Delta Max cable. It's stupidly short!
@@tdcattech I was holding back on going to 6kw and ordering a final battery and thought I could powerstream to the spare socket I have on the delta 2 max. My strop came when I invested all that cash and had no £50 cable to get the kit running. My fault though but I still copped a strop
@@tdcattech would you know if both xt60's pulling in about 550 watts total, if powerstream was in the mix with a couple of panels attached and connected to the second battery port on the side of the delta 2 max with said illusive and short cable.... would that actually give me more charge capability? Or do you think it would conflict and end up reducing what's coming through my existing set up? I want to improve it, not spend more and end up with less
Bs7671 chapter 55, no generator used in parallel with the grid can be connected via a plug and socket. In short it breaches UK wiring regulations by being plugged in, also section 712 it should be on it own dedicated circuit. Also no ENA aproval for connection to the grid. In short the power stream in the UK falls short of meeting basic regulations and shouldn't be for sale. Oh hang in you can't buy one as there all "sold out" 🤔
Many thanks for the clarity on this item. I'm trying to find a full copy of BS7671 to verify but I'm definitely not going to go down the legal implications of using a device like this. That's definitely not in the remit of my channel and equally not my expertise. 🙂 This device is listed in places like B&Q here in the UK (though not available). I wonder if it's being pulled?
@@tdcattech I have copies of the relevant section is the BS 7671,, altho I don't know how to post them as images in UA-cam, chapter 55 section 551.7.2 subsection (ii) is the part that says it cannot be on a plug and socket. 551.1.1 specifically mentions photovoltaic sources of generation are included (one of the argument was that the chapter 55 was for backup generators, when in fact it's for ant generation in parallel with the grid and a back up generator would be run seperate to the grid via a change over switch)
There's other issues round rcd type aproval and turn of times, as well as the fact the EcoFlow CE declaration calls it a fixed install and not a portable one.
It hasnt received ENA aproval yet and aproval was only sort after the product was launched, so shouldn't be connected to the grid u till aproval and then requires G98 notification to the DNO.
It's a bit of a shame EcoFlow ignored people on this as it will give them a bad name in the long run. But I suspect the reason you can buy it in Germany but not in the UK is because they've finally cottoned onto the fact the product dosnt comply in the manor they have sold and advertised it.
It would be great if you could email them over. My email address is on the channel 'About' tab under Business Enquiries.
Omg Rob Osborne so negative and stop spreading lies about ecoflow and the moderators
Your making looking stupid
I understood that they weren't legal in the UK, hence why they are unavailable everywhere?
Wow, well that would be a pretty poor show by EcoFlow if they were to sell a product in the UK which cannot be legally used. Of course this happens all the time but you wouldn't expect it from a more established name without it being made very clear. Anyway, this is not something I've heard but equally not something I've researched. Do you have any sources or is it more opinions of people on forums etc.
Very interesting. I'll take a look at that. Surely EcoFlow would come back with something to advise customers??!
@@tdcattech they issued a statement on the group, saying they had recognised issues and we're working to get the required certificate and and approvals, and any one that wanted to return the product could do for a refund, but that's all we've heard since then. The annoying thing is it was all raised before the launch, but fell on deaf ears
Issues?! A product not being legal for use in the country of sale is more than an 'issue' in my opinion! As I say, this happens all the time with products on Amazon, EBay etc. but, if accurate, this is disappointing. My video discusses technical limitations that people might not be aware of. This is a whole other level. I'll take a look at the FB group this evening.
@@tdcattech the "legal to use" is the wrong phrase. Technically I don't know of a law they've broken, the BS wiring Regs are a standard to prove a safe install, it's not a legal requirement but it's what they use to nail you to the wall should you not follow it, so all good electricians do, same with the failure to get ENA aproval, technically it's your responsibility to check it's listed and to notify the DNO, but no law as far as I can see has been broken, other than maybe miss selling and consumer rights laws (I'm no expert) it's just the product dosnt comply to regulation, meaning potentially insurance is invalid should anything happen, it's also not necessarily unsafe. It's disappointing but I think they thought we were aligned with the EU who have different requirements, but we arnt.
free solar and a free heater? bonkers!
If only EcoFlow would make a p1 meter that does the same as the powerplug but now for the whole house.
Zendure SolarFlow ...not a spokesman of this but the things you rised about ecoflow seems to be solved but who am i
I’ll have to investigate. 👍🏻
My experience of EcoFlow products is that they work on improving the firmware and app. I’ve been quite impressed by the improvements they have made so I feel confident that the same will be true with this product. I’ll be keeping an eye on this they may even release a better version like they did with the EcoFlow Wave, the Wave 2 is a big improvement over the original Wave oh and what to do with that spare battery because you can’t have two batteries plugged in well you can use it to power the Wave 2 and because it’s DC to DC it’s more energy efficient plus the Wave 2 can charge the battery if you plug DC solar into it.
3.5 months and starts tripping the fuse box knocking the power out red light and dead. 10 Yr warranty?! 10 months would have been nice. Don't bother
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BRO YOU CHATT FOR 90% STILL DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ACTION WHILE YOU TALK
In the UK it is illegal to backfeed into your home circuit this would be obvious to anyone who knows what their talking about. This entire product is highly dubious. Remember the power loss through any inverter is at least 30,% . This inverter is tiny it has no fan cooling either . The whole system has no reasonable safety accreditation the savings in electricity will modest in the extreme . And it's potentially lethal . Do you have ANY qualifications in electrical engineering??
No one is forcing YOU to buy it!
Power loss on modern inverters is well under 30%. The unit has all the required accreditations for a load of countries (just not grid tie in the UK). As to power savings - in the countries it is legal to do grid feed in via a socket it most definitely saves enough electricity to pay for itself. If you can't grid tie (eg the UK) then it's less of a benefit but works for some loads, especially if you automate stuff like 2am-5am Octopus charging, and also gives you a really good EPS setup.
@@alistairlambert3275 correct but it's illegall to connect to homes in the UK it has no EU or UK accreditation and it's breaches code requirements in the USA . It's a piece of crap I am afraid and possibly a dangerous piece of crap that fortunately no longer for sale in the UK . Fortunately regulations and consumer laws are there to to protect innocent dupes and morons
@@etchedpixelsit breaches electricity codes in the USA the UK where is the accreditation show me or point me to the place I can find it . The company do NOT reply to emails regarding this product and there is no published accreditation or independent reviews WHY?
@@ianfossett4482 It's fully approved in lots of EU countries, and just got approval in South africa for example. Lots of the EU permits plug in solar up to 800W (not all - Denmark for example has UK like rules).