Britain's best cheap cars - Dacia vs Hyundai vs MG vs Kia | Autocar
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2023
- It’s hard to buy a cheap new car these days, isn’t it?
In a time of £40,000 Vauxhall Astras and £50,000 Mini Convertibles, you can count the number of new cars on sale for less than £15,000 on your own two hands.
However, although there aren’t many around, it’s still possible to bag yourself something that’s both cheap and cheerful. We’ve gathered four of our favourites - the MG 3, the Dacia Sandero, the Kia Picanto and the Hyundai i10 - with the aim of finding the best affordable car in Britain.
Join Matt Prior and James Disdale as they take a relaxed look at these low-budget legends.
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I remember a time when a Dacia sandero started at around £6500 and a Kia picanto started at £5995. And im only 29
Car prices are getting out of hand at any level, a base golf with a diesel engine and DSG is 30K a mid spec A4 is almost 60k, not long ago with 60k you wold get a nicely equipped 5 series or A6, now an A6 wit a 3.0TDI and with options is A8 money at around 85k
KIA also makes Soul and if is specked in a good value that might be better specially with 7 year warranty or Skoda Citigo (a cheapper VW -UP).. or Skoda Fabia / Seat Ibiza..
But people eventually expect and demand better, more improved cars. And in the case of the Dacia Sandero, moving to the current Renault Clio floor-pan and suspension set-up has hugely improved both the ride quality and the driving experience. It has however meant quite an increase in price. You can't get summat for nowt. Better often costs more.....
@@Brian-om2hh yeah but I don't always want better.
@@4039byrne luckily for you there's a used car market then you pleb. The UK has easily the greatest value UCM in the world
The Dacia deserved the win. Good call!
Just like to point out the madness of these being cheap cars. List price of a mk2 focus st225 was £17k ish. The price of cars is mental
15k isn’t cheap
Shows how screwed the situation is that a massive price like that is considered cheap
Spot on.
Comming from a Romanian guy BTW.
We re also disappointed with the prices new cars have reached.
Cheap is always a comparative. And these hatches don't really have any alternative other than getting a used one. And used, is ... used. You get a cat in a bag for 15k, no warranty, nothing.
With these new ones - you do.
Don't call them cheap cars please . Call them the most affordable cars. Cheap sounds a bit cheap . 😁😁
btw you will never hear "cheap" from sales manager. because, and you're absolutely right, it sounds cheap hehe
They are cheap though. In every aspect.
they are cheap lol
Honestly, cheap would be welcomed
Yeah if you work in Romania on a average wage u will never have enough money to buy one. So for a romanian normal family 15k is already expensive. Having a car in Romania starts to become a luxury now days. Car sales dropping with bout 8 % this year.
Easy win for the Dacia in this one :
- does not matter how good or bad, the MG is a much too old design, needs to be dismissed, period.
- kia/hyundai, mini category, good fun but little room, more vulnerable in a crash, growing old in the tooth now as well.
- dacia, newest, most modern, safest, most capable platform of them all. winner, hands down and by far.
Finally a good car video. Unfortunately these are the type of car most people can actually afford to buy outright so very useful and I like the presenters. More of this sort of thing please.
Affordable really
why unfortunately then
I had an MG3 as a rental recently and was generally impressed with it as a basic car. It feels very late 90s/early 2000s in a good way. Great visibility and fun to drive. It has the stuff you need and not all the gimmicks that make modern cars so insanely expensive. The negatives were that it has a lot of tyre roar so tiring on the motorway, you cannot dim the screen and display enough which is really annoying at night and it is a bit thirsty on fuel. It is definitely built to a price but does a surprisingly good job overall.
Our Stepway , bought new in 2018 for 11 grand, has been utterly reliable. One wiper blade in 5 years. 😊
Dacia badge at the front looks a bit like a Delorean - DMC
Thats why they can get you to the future :P
John DeLorean was of Romanian descent lol
Britain's best value car is the Dacia Jogger! It's not much more money than the Sandero and you get a hell of a lot more car.
If you think 7 grand is not much difference. Plus the higher interest rate on the Jogger as well. Massive difference altogether.
@ridehead8771 was a different story eight months ago when it was considerably less
Can't get my head around the fact the cheapest cars are around £15,000
That used to get a family hatchback 😂😂
I can get you very cheap insurance if you're interested
a hatchback?! a sedan maybe a wagon
@@ykmotorsno point just drive around without insurance mate it's the best thing to do 👍👍
It would have been nice to have included the Fiat Panda in the test. The base model is less than £15,000.
When did £15k become cheap?
There all technically the same cars fiat Panda fiat 500 Mazda 1 ford Ka all made in the same factory with the same engines
Oh well, at least Thunberg and her teeny bopper fans will be happy
Totally agree. The Panda is a superb little car, better than the 500 and those tested here
@@norwegianzound when you compare it to an entry level Ford Fiesta
Your absolute need to slag off the Mg3 was so apparent. It has shortcomings but handling and steering are not among them. On roundabout’s it is hard to find anything that will keep up with it. Loads of fun round town and in windy country lanes it’s a ball.
Great little car. I’ve had three of them!
43mpg though. Not for me .
supporting the chinese, communists? start being aware of the parent firm. start knowing more. No need to be overtly positive, also as destructive as being overtly negative......
Loved these two. Great banter. Fully agree that affordable cars engineering is far more impressive than something like a Ferrari. That’s why I’m so impressed with Mazda and the MX-5
I Love Dacia ❤️ All of them
Dad bought a Hello Yellow MG3 Excite brand new in March 2022 for £12,388. I absolutely love it, yes it's very old school in every way - but to me, having well weighted, hydraulically assisted steering, and an engine thats a joy to rev out to extract the power makes for a very, very entertaining drive.
I find the engine a little odd though, in the way that all the power comes in a sudden lump at around 6,000 rpm.
I still don't think they deserve the stick they still get.
Was there not talk of a new engine, possibly a more modern 1.0litre which might have been more frugal but this will presumably come if and when the MG3 is replaced. As it is, it seems good value for money and ideal for, ahem, older drivers like myself!
@@paulphillips9228 I think it was more a case of "They should've put the 1.0T in" rather than anything official - and I do agree to some extent, but the 1.5 really isn't as bad as everyone makes out - yes it's dated, but the only thing to fail on them is the timing chain, but most cars have timing belts that need replaced at certain intervals anyway, so I don't see this as too dissimilar, as such, not a big issue - whereas the 1.0T has a turbo, and a timing chain, and being a 3 cylinder is naturally unbalanced - not to mention how hot the highly strung turbo triples run. They're not for me - simple, proven - if raucous naturally aspirated 4 pot for me every time.
I agree. I have a pre facelift in hello yellow and it’s a great car, always enjoy driving it and no problems. I’d buy another.
After years of driving BMW’s and Mercedes, I recently moved over to Kia. These top end cars are over rated and we’re almost brainwashed to think of them as the only cars available to us.
Just one point on the vid - could you do something about the sound levels? It goes from so quiet as to be almost silent to very loud a few times - especially toward the start.
Sandero Stepway is 15k and probably better able to deal with our third world roads here in the UK.
Great review. Dacia gives you a bigger car AND a turbo to move around the extra weight. So that's the best value in this test.
Great vid - totally agree on small cars being fun. I love my 11 year old 85 bhp Polo runabout - much fun at sensible speeds
More of these two guys please. Hilarious, entertaining and informative.
Always enjoyable. Thanks guys. Just wondered if a VW Up! would have qualified as it starts at £14,620 for a 5-door, although I couldn't see how much it is OTR as the website is garbage (as they all are now).
It's not a bad car but it hasn't really changed since 2011, 12 years ago, some tweaks in 2016 but mainly the same. It started out at something like £7k or £8k and is now RRP just over £15k OTR making it more expensive than the Hyundai i10 and you literally get less tech than the Picanto 1. It might be a good car to drive but it's not good value for money.
You would have to be insane to buy an i10 over a Sandero. I tried an i10, drove nicely but was , spec for spec, much more expensive, much slower, less practical and not capable of out of town commutes. The Sandero was much superior. If your a badge snob get ripped off. Im not and saved thousands.
Well, I would have to contradict you, since I 'm a Romanian national, and first I went to the Dacia stables, and what they offered me, for the top specs, was ... let ' s say unsatisfactory. I left them and went to Hyun, and for the top spected I saved about 1,2 K euros, got more gadgets, better finish, and a more economical, faster, better looking car, and ... five years warrant, that is not something to disconsider !
@@victormarian7889 do you mean the Sandero stepway?
@@samuele5931 Yes, that is the top spec Sandero !
@@victormarian7889 sandero stepway is not value for money: i prefer the Sandero streetway but the i10 is better if you go around town a lot.
i20 and sandero are the ones to compare not i10 the i10 more panda and twingo class of small cars so it will have less power, its like comparing a Renault Megane to clio
A 12k -15k car is not cheap at all
How is £15,000 cheap? Half the average salary in the UK before anything is taken off. As a society, we've all just come to accept several years of finance as normal for a half decent car.
I agree, salaries are too low indeed. Everything becomes unaccessible.
Great video, the Dacia would br my choice. What happened to the Citroen C3 that was featured in the print version?
Barely over a year ago you could have had that Sandero (in white) for £9995 otr....I do not really class Dacia's as particularly cheap anymore - only cheap in comparison to the even more ridiculous pricing of all the other brands.
Yeah like £20k for a Vauxhall Corsa ! Well I guess cows can't drive so they got to milk us humans 😭
Considering the amount of kit, interior quality and the engine you get in the MG3 (a proper engine, not a vacuum cleaner), something had to give for that price. Really good value for money, which is rare nowadays.
I love the show. You guys are engaging and I like your camaraderie. Keep up the good work.
All of these cars have doubled in price nobody in their right mind will pay these prices.
It would be nice to have stats on screen graphics.
Had to sell my wife's (mine really ) MX5 as she could no longer get out of it, knee/hip probs.
Bought an A10 and went from the worlds greatest gear change to, surprise surprise the worlds greatest gear change.
not cheap anymore
I ordered my Dacia Sandero Stepway CVT back in January, I should pick it up at the end of this month.
I went for top of the range and auto as I am fed up with manual gears with turbo engines (coming from a Duster 1.3l TCE 150 bhp)
In my neck of the woods an auto makes a lot of sense.
The Duster Automatic is a whopping £22K and thats into Honda Jazz teritory. too expensive for a Dacia.
Make no mistake, a Dacia will always be cheaper than a direct rival from another brand. A Duster is bigger than a Jazz and logically has some attributes that the Jazz does not have. The models must be compared by segments, not by price. Sandero with Clio, 208, Corsa, C3, Ibiza Polo... a Duster with an Autral, 3008, C5Aircross...
But a full spec Duster comes with 4x4, and it can do some off-roading. Do not compare a Duster with the Jazz, the Duster can be used on tarmac as well as on forest roads and light off-road. The Honda Jazz is just a cross-over, and I find the design boring, more like a mom car, the hybrid tech is the only nice thing about it.
@@samidobrin8210 the top spec duster with an auto box in the UK is not 4x4
Drives horrible, don't know what you like about that ,my Mazda 2008 1.6 petrol feels faster in acceleration than that crap 1.0 Cvt from Sandero 😅
@Adrián Romero yes ,Duster is bigger but thats it , a Duster doesn't have the same built quality, fit and finish and reliability of the Honda .
Duster is a big lump of unrefined plastic and cheap thin steel ,when Honda is quality overall, no terms of comparison, being bigger doesn't mean is better quality or that its better 🤷♂️
Dacia, all the way. Modern 1.0 tce Renault engine.
MG is a close second. The mpg from the old school engine is the main issue.
The rest are almost micro cars in size comparison with low output engines.
You try owning one they are crap.
I own one Dacia. Pretty good. :) 😊
@@zog97xy BS.
@@zog97xy Rubbish, we've owned a Sandero of that style for 2 years now. It's really pretty decent to drive, economical and had no problems.
@@zog97xyI have for almost two years the Hyundai i - 10 N Line, and it's a great little car !
The 'runaround' car is due a replacement and I think that Sandero would fit the bill. No thrills, cheap, gets the job done - it's exactly what so many people want out of a car anyway.
Did I miss how tall these guys are? Difficult to gauge rear room if we don’t know how tall they are. Apologies if I missed that crucial bit of info 🤪
I have a 2010 Piccanto and have had it from new. Very reliable and didn't need its 7 year warranty. However, although it has four doors and seats but it really is a two person car. I have no toys in it and didn.t want them but it cost £6200 cash. How stuff has gone up. I will keep it till it falls to bits. I got a spare wheel too.
11:00 - 11:13: revving...hold conversation....revving....wincing....keep the throttle on....change. I miss my Saxo 1.1 LX (fondly remembered as 'Yellow peril' being zest yellow....the last car I got done for speeding in).
Top work guys 👍
Car prices in the UK always surprise me. My idea of a ‘cheap’ car is a Mazda 2, about GBP9500 in Japan.
Ireland is 50% more than UK prices.
@@docastrov9013so the Hyundai i10 SE connect (now Advance) is £22k in Ireland is it ? 🤔
I have an old i10 with over 120k miles and it’s utterly reliable, nice to drive and so easy to drive / park in town.
We bought a new Picanto for 11300 punds with an auto, manual a/c, touchscreen with wireless apple carplay/rearview camera and 15 inch alloy wheels incl a spare (price converted from Swedish krona, yes we live in Sweden) with almost every option beside led front and rear light, automatic climate and keyless entry and start. The i10 was a little cheaper but we all liked the Picanto (design) more, and we have not regrettet our choise at all, a great little car!
Seems a lot cheaper in Sweden than UK then
Basically the same cars, but the H is slightly bigger, so I took it, but two years ago, in the top spec, and it's a beauty and akmost sporty !
A really entertaining and truly useful car test, as this price range probably represents 50% of the purchased used or new car market. Real world motoring. Manufacturers hope buyers will lease more expensive models. I like simple, cheap, honest cars, so Kia/Hyundai & Dacia deserves special credit.
Thanks for the video
If you put reliability into the test, Hyundai and Kia will win hands down. Drive these 4 cars for 10 years and do the test again to prove me wrong. You 2 are awesome. Loved this vid. You've got yourselfs a Dutch fan!
What. Dacia is equally reliable. Have had a number. Flat tire only thing ever problem. 300 k km’s no prob.
Check reliability tests of several brands. Renault and all brands using R stuff are not the best most of the time...Japanese and Koreans are
@@Brokmod Check Dacia tests. And again. Personal experience.
I am happy that Romania is popular because of the success of Dacia cars.😉🙂
Most people don't know the car is Romanian though in fact I used to think it was French lol 🤣
All of these cars are perfect for our roads. Supple ride, sensible tyres and nicely analogue for driver interaction. Id be happy in any of them but the description of the gear change on the i10 redrawing me to that of the Kia. A great manual gearbox make A such a difference in a daily runabout. A great feature autocar. So much more relevant than the 2 ton EVs you seem obsessed with of late.....
dacia does it have also auto transmission please
how do you think vw up compared to i10 and pikanto? Thank you!
the up, panda, twingo, i10 are in one class, med city cars sandero, i20, mg, clio,208 both different classes even tho they all city cars
I own a Hyundai i10 SE Connect and agree with you that it is a superb car for the price.
should compared i20 with mg / sandero same size sort cars, i10 fall in to twingo, panda, that city car. small , med , large city cars
I do like the Hyundai, but the Dacia is far more practical and faster, so I’d go for that personally
Have a '17 i10 and love it
Do you have tariffs or something on imports. Here in NZ you can buy a new Suzuki swift for less than 12000 pounds and the Swift sport for under 15000 pound.
UK is a total ripoff these days: rampant inflation but price gouging too.
Idk man Brexit really fucked everything up. Everything is more expensive than our European neighbours...
Europe is crazy expensive for cars due to very high labour costs for the domestic manufacturers which pushes up prices for the whole market. In Oz and NZ all our cars come from Asia.
@@person.X. The UK has good prices on second hand cars though...on the Continent and North America they cost way more...
bit more journalism req'd chaps: Sandero in France is £10,100, it's £13K here. Why? is it RHD conversion vs market size? Brexit and import duties? Who knows, but would be useful to understand why it's 30% more.
The basic spec in France is even less than in the UK where buyers demand more, even on big standard models. Same goes for German cars in Germany and Italian cars in France.
@@Olliebobalong do they really demand more on the most basic Dacia? I'm not convinced. It might be the dealers speccing them like that to get more greedy margins.
I know that there are two types of Sandero. one for southern europe (comes with Sunroof) and the northern europe spec that has heated seats (on the top of the range).
The UK gets the northern europe spec.
Maybe that could explain the price difference ?
I'm Romanian and don't know much about cars (I don't own one), but you make me curious to check how much these models cost in Romania.
So I accessed the Romanian Dacia website, so Sandero Streetway (standard version) starts from €13,900, while the Sandero Stepway starts from €14,400.
But keep in mind that the Sandero standard is assembled in Morocco, while the Sandero Stepway is made in Romania.
It's the rhd conversion. Requires a second line of production just for that but most of the time once set up doesn't need any extra work.
Get the Stepway version of the Sandero, because as I found out today it is a little mountain goat in the snow.
It's no more a mountain goat than any other Sandero tbf, it only has a fraction higher suspension
@@jontallon73sandero has 160mm which is high and stepway has 200mm thats like a jeep its very up
Working in the trade I can tell everyone that MG might be cheap but try getting anything more then an oil filter and see what happens, you'll learn the word "backorder" , there are no spare part for those shitboxes at all , I had one of those new mg in for a service and everything I could find was an oil filter nothis else and no timeframe for when I could get some parts for it , this is ridiculous I mean it's a Chinese clamped out vehicle but no spare parts available !
Chinese junk.
It might be my equipment, but the sound level was a bit too low on this video for me. Could have done with it being a bit louder. Otherwise, good reviews.
Let's just say that if the dacia sandero had been around 25 years ago there might have been a daciasport v6!!.
The best cheap car is the bus. Even cheaper still, a bicycle.
do you know how much a bus costs??and parking it is nightmare
Wish we had Dacia in Australia often admired that Sandero online a solid little well balanced driving car from Romania..
Sell well as lowest priced car against MG3 here in Australia..
The kia picanto is too basic and overpriced and fat too small inside.
Might happen in 2024 or 2025. Dacia is interested to get on Australian market.
Basically it's a cheap variant for Renault Clio.
In september I drove dad i10, it indeed struck me how pleasant in each n every way the gearbox was. just a feel of blissful driving, almost wanting oneself to get rid of one car , ie trading one automatic for summat like dads i10, that gearbox just has summat. shall i say tasty
What happened to the £8,000 basic Sandero which was launched in September 2020 on the same platform as the Renault Clio launched just 18 months earlier? Now they seem to start at about £13,000. Was it dropped because today's buyers want more bells and whistles and it was not selling, or was it that Dacia thought that having such a cheap model gave their brand a poor image?.
Greed.Just like Skoda started out too...
Prices have increased since 2022 for exactly same model with 2000€ …..even more for some brands. Also, because of environmental and safety regulation (all new cars must have brake assist sensors, a number of airbags, ESP…..) prices have increased. It’s a bummer, same Dacia Sandero was cheaper in 2022. I bought a city EV, the Dacia Spring, at launch time and with government grants it was 8500€. Same model now but with the new badge and 20cp more(just a software upgrade, has same drivetrain) is almost 12000 € (government grant included as well) and waiting time is minimum 6 months…..This is the result of war, inflation and greed.
all cars prices increased by 5000£ in the last one or two years(the cheap ones cuz the big expensive cars have increased in price by tens of thousands
I tried to buy a Hyundai I20 in 2015. When I went to the dealership on a Saturday morning, there was only 1 junior 'Saturday guy' there who was able to take me for a test drive, but couldn't talk to me about actually buying one. So I bought a Citroen C4 1.2 instead. Then in 2022 I needed a new car VERY quickly. I wanted a Dacia Sandero, and duly drove to the local dealership (after checking on the website that it was open). I arrived to find a closed dealership with a sign saying they'd 'moved'. So I bought a Ssangyong Tivoli instead. Haven't regretted either purchase.
lot less power in the french, i20 1.2 121 Nm. Torque. 89 lb-ft. 88bhp, the c3 at the time a bigger engine 1.4 70bhp/70nm you be working those gears a lot more that little torque, some newer ones they learnt and are more more powerful, but the age my i20 and citroën same sorta size were way under powered and fat heavy. i know in the hills and mountains in Wales i know i can be a work out up down gears so i dread to think how much more work with less torque, also i20 with me in car it 1.1 ton so very chuck-able car fun through the corners and left cars behind in the right conditions with 3 times the engine
@@stevekenilworth Never had any problems with a 1.2 C4 and best of all it was only £20 road tax. Even new C4's with 1.2 engines are way more than that on road tax. Only cars registered between 2015 and 2017 qualified. Crazy. The C4 was much more fun to drive than the Tivoli. Tivoli is 1.6 but has 6 gears and as I don't drive that much (less than 2000 miles yearly) I preferred the simplicity of the 5 speed. The C4 used to almost float along. I used to say it felt more like steering a boat than driving a car. Alas rats got under the engine bay during lockdown and DESTROYED it. Was written off by the insurers, hence the Tivoli as it was one of few cars available anywhere near me or my parents. I had no courtesy car from the insurers so getting to dealerships was a problem. My dad saw the Tivoli as the dealership was down the road from where he walked the dog and he'd bought a larger Tivoli from there a few years earlier. He saw a 2021 reg ex demo with only 500 miles on it going for a song. Anything new was on a LONG waiting list (I think they wanted the demo gone to make space for new cars and higher margin). So I bought on his recommendation (after the aborted attempt at a Dacia) and haven't regretted it. Leather seats, aircon etc etc. It had 600 on it by the time I picked it up in Feb 2022 and it's only now just broken 3000 in Nov 2023.
the tax i the same an if i went diesel says free in Hyundai, my 12 year old car £35 go for the same engine new shape £20 so same tax biggest difference is less weak engine a lot less work to maintain speed in the hill and mountains of wales, also steering as a lot more feel you feel what front wheel are doing the Citroen i driven electric steering very little to no feel what the front wheels are up to, only things positive i feel from Citroen is seats nice soft same as suspension good for bad back. @@caeserromero3013
I’m sick of hearing about over the air updates. If something as well designed in the first place, why would it need updating?
Because it can gain new features over time? And yes, for fixes, because if something is wrong, over the air updates saves you a trip to the service.
I assume you've never used any technology made in the last 30 years then?
The over the air updates are to get us used to future technology when we all have to subscribe and pay monthly fees for things like heated seats (Yes I am thinking of BMW and Tesla).
Because it is very hard and expensive to write software that’s bug free so it is better to have updates. What’s not convincing you?
How you guys didnt include a ignis is beyond me
Suzuki ignis should have been here.
Suzuki Swift £14999 on Autotrader today.?
Baffles me why people buy cars like these, 14k roughly for a car with very basic features, you can get a 2-3 year old with much better features for the same money, which will still last a very long time
I still drive my 13 years old Sandero, we also have a recent MCV, the later is better but all and all it's not a punishment for daily drive, and in France you can't find something cheaper to repair and reliability is good. Except tce 1.2 motors.
Lots of good points made here. My female friend recently had to decide between the i10 and the Picanto (2 variant) and went for the Picanto, simply because the KIA service was miles better than Hyundai. Hyundai didn't seem to give a monkeys, leaving her lingering around, despite having an appointment, then giving her literally no detail, handed her the key and told her to drive it. They lost the sale, regardless of whether the car was good. KIA, loads of time, loads of attention, loads of information, job done.
They are basically the exact same car anyway
Heard this aplenty about hyundai dealerships. I had a clutch problem on a new i10. SERVICE MANAGER told me clutch slave cylinder had gone need it for a week. I said it’s a cable this no hydraulics. I took the car away and reported the dealer to hyundai who did not even respond. A fake warranty claim by the hyundai dealer. No thanks
0:18 it's inflation, which is a less direct way of pointing out profit.
I'd never buy a car in this class, but if I was, it would be the Dacia for me. Far better all rounder.
why not Daniel?
@@Thecarman1994 Too small for my preference I'm afraid. I like executive saloons, rarity these days
@@Edvard.Munchkin ok fine. I feel that we are getting carried away with buying/leasing way beyond our actual needs. If you can afford it, then it's your preference. However, Joe Public might be better off with a simple, less expensive car, and then be able to pay his mortgage. By the way, what luxury car ? If I was still driving to the south of France, I might look at the panamara.
@@Thecarman1994 For me, my favourite would be an S class. However, a simple Passat is what I currently drive, a 2018 model, dsg. Currently on the look out for a well specced 530d g30. I'm only 25, so I'm working my way up. First car was a 2010 Passat 1.6 tdi, back in 2017, had two Insignias, a 2014 and 2016, both 2 litres and now the 2018 2 litre Passat. Just hoping to find a nice red 530d now. What do you drive yourself?
@@Edvard.Munchkin Hello Daniel. 5 series BM a brilliant choice. We hired one 6 years ago and I was really impressed. I haven't driven a recent s class, but fancied the SELs.
I'm a few years ahead of you at 70, so our tastes are bound to differ.
We have our second Fiat Coupe, a 1999 model. My dream car.
We also have a a Fiat 500L, 10 years old. It is a bus, a truck as well as a car. That's why I was interested in the video.
Good luck with your car plan.
Buy carefully with your brain, not your heart.
Do a lot of cleaning and day to day maintenance.
Also have a go at DIY. Some of it isn't too hard if you take your time.
Best wishes
Paul
The only car I like out of the four Is the MG because the other three has a tablet stuck on top of the dashboard. I prefer the infotainment where it is in the MG.
the more basic dacias are like that too i think, that one seems a higher spec
I prefer a car that doesn't earn the Chinese Communist party money. MG is fully Chinese nowadays. At least Dacia is french and manufactured in Romania.
@@mihnealazar7039 as long as any car has a tablet glued to the top of the dashboard I don't like it. I don't care what country its from I don't care if the MG is Chinese I still rather it over the other three cars.
The mg is literally from 2013 😂😂😂😂, the sandero is built on the most modern platform
@@SebastianStephanStan I don't care if the mg is from 2013 😂😂😂😂 I still prefer it. If it was the year 0 I would like it more than the other cars.
The Dacia Sandero looks the best of all, the Hyundai and Kia look like toy cars, super tiny cars. The MG îs chinese, so no, from my point of view.
Best bang for the buck, without questions, is the Sandero. Good looking, spacious, turbo engine and cheaper than the other ones. Dont tell me you prefer the tiny koreans or the chinese car over this!
More importantly which is safest?
The only car of the three with a recent NCAP test is the Sandero(2 star). The other two or tested in 2017(kia) and 2014(mg) and scored 3 star each. By 2017 standard the Sandero was rated 4 star but now with more demanding safety requirements despite being safer than the previous model only scores 2 star. A lot of car makers today simply don't test their cars to avoid bad advertising if they know their cars will not meat criteria for 5 or at least 4 star rating. In simple words by today standards none is safe of the three.
@@UA-camnonesense Wow, I'm surprised with such a low score and no scores it wasn't mentioned. In the US Kelly blue book videos usually they talk about IIHS safety which is an independent insurance company sponsored testing for vehicle safety that is reputable.
@@MBisFrenchy I don't know much about the safety tests in the US and how would they compare with the European one. Totally different markets US and Europe. At the end of the day the driver is more important than the car. A safer driver in an unsafe car is better than a safe car driven by a careless driver. Ideally both the car and the driver should be safe. In Europe the engine power of the cars is reduced because of the emission regulation and fuel prices on average three times more expensive than the US and the downside is that not everyone in Europe can afford a 200+ hp with a heavy body car with 5 star rating.
Probably i10 if you go around cities a lot, Sandero otherwise (better passive protection) maybe.
The pre-facelift MG3 is definitely a better drive than the newer ones, that’s my secondhand sensible supermini choice. I’d probably go for a Sandero, Picanto or Swift if I was choosing brand new.
In what way is it better? I've only driven the facelift, so I'm curious.
@@IfInDoubt.. It's not. They handle the same, both extremely well. The face-lift just has a better interior and more refined running gear (just minor improvement).
Circa £15k isn't cheap. Not when the average UK wage is probably only double that. Can most people afford to spend half their annual income on a car? I doubt it.
I can get you very cheap insurance if you're interested
Sadly true
Where is the Up! ?
Aren't Kia pulling the Picanto out of the UK market soon?
No it's too good a seller 👍
A basic new Skoda Fabia north of £20,000? A base model POLO must be £23,000. Therefore, buy secondhand, or lease them! I would choose the DACIA. The new model MG3 is out soon, way better than the MG3 shown here.
true
So, it was the Dacia, or was it ?
Dacia for reason, Kia for pleasure I understood. Dacia is more for family bigger, spacious.
Base Sandero doesn't have the turbo
I do not buy brand new cars anymore I buy good used after all they were top of fashion a few years before and you do not need lots of toys to go wrong in the future
In the past I would have looked at 3 year old cars that had depreciated to an affordable level but were next best thing to new, but now with PCP deals etc, I'd be worried that I was getting the equivalent of a 3 year old hire car that had been ragged about and had the minimum of care, then shifted through a trade auction after 3 years and be impossible to find out if buying until the bills started coming in.
@@lawrenceholden5716I agree but I think conditions of these PCP deals are they have to be maintained on time though at dealers, so you’d think they don’t have the chance to be properly neglected in that time. But they could definitely be ragged though, especially leaded performance cars like Polo GTIs etc
Car manufacturers are reporting huge profit increases of late. I guess there is room for sizeable price cutting.
Demand will dry up for overpriced cars soon as real incomes continue to decline. It will be interesting to see if manufacturers cut prices to keep their factories busy or if they are preparing for the end of the mass market and permanently lower sales (with growing markets in Asia and LDCs as an alternative outlet).
Good news!
I can't help thinking that if you are in the market for this sort of car, you'd probably get more for your money with a used car? The poverty spec supermini category has always bewildered me slightly.
I can get you very cheap insurance if you're interested
Right now new car on sale are not well maintained and overpriced. The gap justify to buy new IMHO
Yes, but that applies to ALL cars. And they all have to start off as brand new.
I know two owners of the mg and both hate it
In Australia we only get the Kia pecarto and the MG3 and they are the cheapest cars available in Australia at about aud$20000 but up until Suzuki Australia stopped bringing them into the country it was the Suzuki Baleno GL and they were under aud$20000 but l did see a second Baleno GL sell for aud$22000 second hand and we bought a 2021 Suzuki Baleno GLX and we paid aud$25000 for it drive away they must be good because the Baleno has been rebadged the Toyota Starlet not sold in Australia so they must be a very good car if Toyota put there badge on them and we all know about Toyota's reputation for reliability my 1997 Toyota Hilux is a classic example of that
Managed to obtain some sense of a comparison between the cars. Overall, it came over as a chat between a couple of blokes rather than a customer-orientated evaluation. I don't really want to know about tea flasks and bags, it smacks of a lack of preparation and focus on the needs of the viewer, just wastes time.
I don't think the MG was a good choice. C3 or Fiat Panda would have been better, of course IMHO
The sad fact that none of these cheap cars are available as hybrids or EVs. They can be. It's just "cheap" cars have to have slim profit margins.
Cost of manufacture and the cost to ensure profit growth are two different things that affect EVs etv
I have had my 2016 i10 from new and in all that time have only had to have a new battery fitted. The best small car i have ever owned. I am now waiting for my new i10. PS. This will be my fourth Huyndai.
I can get you very cheap insurance if you're interested
had mine coming 4 years, i20 just the wear tare items like brakes , disks an d pads a new belt, brake censor what turned of abs/esp/tc and tires not bad for a car 2011 and last 3 mot clean pass no advisory's so car has been good yes plus a battery. only recently this week clutch finally screwed it might get me to the garage but not bad 100k miles on clutch, seen face lift one with new clutch at 80k miles. just the same issues most cars get at around 100k mark. next week new clutch a service and full check over and mot going for another clean mot pass with no advisory's, i say to my local garage if i doubt fix it i do not want silly advisory. Hyundai for my ownership so far nothing out the norm been very reliable never failed to start just wear tear items, and i do drive it pretty hard at times so it expected extra wear, like front disks over heated and warped, country lanes hard on brakes of trying to have higher average speed so flat out on the straight hard on brakes before you get to next corner and could be on roads like that for few hours at a time they get bit less responsive they get hot, so what ive needed replaced been very affordable even if it gets driven hard at times
10 minutes review of a Luxury bmw suv or Rolls Royce or bentleys, Nah
30 min video of affordable cars, Hell yeah
How about doing this again at £20k? There is a big jump in the amount of cars available and since most people just look at the monthly cost there isn't a great deal of difference.
It is shocking how we're being ripped off though. I'm not interested in the excuses of emissions and equipment because the general cost to manufacture has either stagnated or changed very little depending on which company/model.
When you look at spec for spec its around a 50% increase on a lot of cars over just a few years with little justification past the usual excuses.
Truth is when people started buying on pcp/lease the makers got greedy. Now you pay a lease/payments/etc for three years or so then the second owner pays what the car should have cost new.
Selling the car new twice in effect - genius marketing and morally bankrupt behaviour as usual.
The Cars are very affordable 😊
Are you having a laugh?
No they arent.The last Sandero was under 6 grand,that was cheap.....
Britains worst car review in my opinion, too much digressing. They wasted half of the time talking about other cars and a lot of the rest about things that are irrelevant. Missing was information such as trim options, storage and proper running costs, personally I don't care about steering wheel weights, rather what the view is out the back window.
MG is owned by chinese govt - not proxy ownership - direct.
They probably would never even notice the £15,000 from a supermini in the UK thsts come into the bank account.
@@H.K_R it's not about the money. more about the data - as more and more connected tech is in these cars and no one will ever know what data flow is happening on the car. Unlike smartphones, which has a very large crowd who take apart lines of code to track data flow to china - I believe same is not true for cars.
@@p.sethia1830 Your phone knows who you are and where you are, same for CCTV cameras, ISPs, the UK Government does a fair amount of tapping into people’s data now. All new cars do that. So why can’t your car know that?
@@H.K_R my concern is that the Chinese govt. might have access to the data. granted western govts. can have access to this data, but implications of that might not be as severe as maybe russia/china having that info. An argument can be made that what use is this info - it is when there's a conflict situation.
@@p.sethia1830 Ok, but why would the Chinese government want to know for example who’s driving a mid size crossover in Lincoln?
I get what you are saying although unless this can be proven it isn’t really relevant yet.