Excellent conclusion about it being the support network van Gogh had rather than the suffering that allowed him to flourish creatively. Too many use van Gogh's mental health issues to argue that people are wrong for taking anti-depressants and the like, ignoring that he was at the height of his creativity, both quality and production, when he was best treated, and the 'suffering artist' construct to justify crunch cultures which all evidence indicates creates poorer art.
I've never been a fan of this more recent interpretation. Suffering does not automatically create great art, nor is suffering mandatory for the creation of great art, but a person powering through their suffering to create art, even when it hurts, shows a dedication to create something beautiful and ascend humanity. Regardless, having others who support you is also vital!
When they showed the film at my local library, we were lucky enough to have a Q&A sesh with 1 of the painters who worked on the film, a college art teacher who was recruited for the project via facebook. & yes, it was an extraordinary challenge, & she was clear about that, especially as somebody without an animation background prior to this, but she also took such delight in having been involved with it, & it deepened her appreciation for an artist she had studied, taught, & been inspired by her entire career in a way that no other project ever could have. There's no shame in taking shortcuts when they'll get you to the same place, but there are some places you can only get to the long way.
You're not wrong, but there is actually a Russian animator/filmmaker whose made a number of short films animated entirely by painting on glass. Feel free to look him and his work up, his name is Aleksandr Petrov.
what a lovely way to make your point further by cutting within the "tutorial". I was a bit confused when I saw the title in my sub feed but I'm glad that I clicked on it and checked it out
>Clicked on video expecting silly April Fools joke parodying common video format. >Got a thought-provoking video on the nature of art and UA-cam. Only you, Kyle. Only you.
For anyone who's actually curious how to get the oil painted effect into a video, there's an experimental AI tech called "style transfer" that can do it. It's not ready for production yet though.
Benedict Cumberbatch also played Van Gogh in a documentary/dramatisation called 'Van Gogh: Painted With Words'. It was pretty good and had quite a lot of excerpts from Van Gogh's own letters to his brother.
I get the joke, but you could probably get the effect you're looking for by making the foreground a separate layer from the background and modifying the warping effect a bit to make it look different. Not the same quality as "Loving Vincent" but you'd get an adequate effect.
Or if you want to go the AI route, you can set something up like the Deep Dream AI and have it render every frame of your video in any painter style you want
what you're really looking for, I suspect is an animated texture. Then again... now we're down a route where just painting the darn thing yourself is less of a pain.
I heard somewhere that de-anglicizing a foreign name and trying to pronounce it properly is so un-American that it might just cost you your citizenship
I got to see this movie in an art museum where I live. I found it extremely moving. Honestly, I was in tears by the end of it. I'm not ashamed to say that.
I had a similar effect going to the Norman Rockwell museum. Being a huge fan of Rockwell made seeing the actual paintings an almost religious experience, being able to see every brushstroke and even the texture of the brushes used gave more depth than the highest definition camera.
hey i've always been a fan of your work but lately your videos have just been like. consistently moving. through research and analysis you touch my heart. thank you man
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING HIS NAME PROPERLY. I mean, I never doubted you would, since we both share an expat childhood in the Netherlands, but it just bugs me so much when people say 'Van Go'. Like, in what language is 'gh' silent!? At least 'Van Goff' is an ATTEMPT.
That remark of "For the Month". I just today (March 31st) posted a blog just so I would not break my multi-year streak of posting a blog at least monthly. It was hacked out, made from a comment I had posted to something over on Fark that got enough "Smart" clicks to make me think it could be a blog if I fleshed it out. I barely added anything. It is difficult trying to keep up on something creative when having a full time job that saps all your energy.
Yet the budget of the film was only 5.5 million dollars and had a 42.1 million return; i wonder why ain't there more films like this. Four years doesn't seem that long to me.
Oh man, I recently went back to school to work towards being some kind of art historian/archivist and this is making me so emotional. You've captured exactly what I love about art as objects worth protecting.
Hardly the biggest issue, but you really nailed the tone of one-take extemporaneous UA-cam/podcast narration of someone guessing what they're saying as they say it.
I'm pleased to see you're moving away from that whole 'video essay' format and doing something profitable! Good thinking! *lights cigar* In all seriousness, though, I can only hope more artists get the opportunity to make an impact like Van Gogh did. That they get that support, that love, which can make even the most dire of circumstances bearable. And I hope YOU have that, too, Kyle.
Saw this at the now defunct Lincoln Plaza Cinema on one the smallest theater screens I ever saw. It honestly felt like I was watching the paintings come to life. I loved this film. Ps, I though that after discussing Nightwatching you wouldn’t talk about another art conspiracy film.
The 2001 movie "Waking Life" was rotoscoped on a computer using a vector based program similar to Adobe Illustrator, but like the movie "Loving Vincent" each frame was drawn by hand. As far as I know there was nothing automatic about it. Each segment was done in a completely differing style. It was one of the most visually striking films I've seen. It's not available on Blu Ray in North America. The director, Richard Linklater, released another film in that technique, "A Scanner Darkly", 2006, but it only used a single style through out. Though now I have this movie to get my hands on.
The painstaking execution of this movie deserved a far, far better script. For all the beauty of the visuals, the only time the movie truly moved me was when they used Van Gogh's own words. I wish they would have made a movie of his artistic life in his words, as far as they are available.
I like that even when you're purposefully trying to make a shitty video, you can't help yourself and sneak some high quality informative art appreciation in there.
I'm a comic artist and all of this really spoke to me because comics usually only exist as reproductions. Automation versus artistry (learning how do it, "suffering" to learn it, "suffering" while you draw the hard things) is also a big point of conflict. Do I paint this autumn forest background manually even though I know my audience will look at it for approximately 1 second and then move on? Or do I use an array of filters and brushes? Will I regress as an artist if I don't paint it? Will other artists look at me with disdain if I use shortcuts? With a painting you can at least count on people being primed to look at the details. Comics get eaten like popcon - which is fine. It just brings up some tough questions if you want to be successful and get things done in a timely fashion AND develop artistically.
I don't know if this is a April Fool's joke, and I should ignore it, or if it is actually some very serious misinformation, which would make it my patriotic duty to correct.
I would use the word "admirer" sparingly. I find that most crowds that flock to famous painting don't actually care about the art. They just want to take a selfie with it and move on. Something to show off that you saw, not something to admire.
It's really nice to see humour return to your videos. I'd kinda dropped off from watching your content because it's been so heavy, and it's great to see you lighten the mood without watering down the substance.
great video about making the attempt at quicky Van Gogh effect - will show my video students that failing is part of creating. - Isn't there a plug in for this one? haha - I recommend Loving Vincent and William Defoe's Vincent as well
I am, sadly, very, very out of practice, but consider lowering the opacity of the effect layer, to make it more subtle. Also consider throwing some "snow static nois" don't remember what the effect is actually called in AR, but think snow from an old TV not too ed to a chanel. Use that effecting conjunction with the palate & paint effects, maybe manipulate the size and shape of the fracture to get that almost static streaking effect van gogh tends to have in some of his more well known paintings. Side note & question: why am I so lazy/inpatient? I know that when I was doing it in school I loved the rendering/composting process. Heck even editing, cause those 3 things are,where it all finally feels like a project is coming to get her. I probably lost all the skill I've learned due to being so out of practice.
First Dan Olsen switches to Fortnite, then HBomberGuy does Transformers and now an Adobe tutorial from Kyle? Also the Adaptation episode from Lessons From The Screenplay?! UA-cam whats happening? So much new creative energy! O right, Internet Comment Ettiquette did a video on wholesome cuteness. Council of Geeks brought Vera out for a whole video. What's next?!
I watched this video without looking at the posting date, and worked out what was going on after only about 10 seconds of "Uh, did I click the right thumbnail?" Was the title only recently (like, since April 2022) changed from one declaring it to be a real tutorial or something? Because there seem to be a lot of genuinely irate comments below - I mean sure, _some_ of them are probably sarcasm, but still...
You do good work, and you can take time if you need. I'm not gonna demand anything. Heck, you name drop EFAP, who I STILL have listed on Patreon in case they ever... ever?... ever want another go at it. Happy Spring.
this effects reminds me of wat the carpet looked like for me on acid lmao now that i think about it i wanna get real creative and try to replicate the things i saw on it and make it into a video
Excellent conclusion about it being the support network van Gogh had rather than the suffering that allowed him to flourish creatively. Too many use van Gogh's mental health issues to argue that people are wrong for taking anti-depressants and the like, ignoring that he was at the height of his creativity, both quality and production, when he was best treated, and the 'suffering artist' construct to justify crunch cultures which all evidence indicates creates poorer art.
I’d like to see more depictions of art coming from a place of joy. I don’t think I know any artists who don’t take pleasure in the act of making art.
Yes, yes and YES. This myth "artist have to suffer to make good art" is just the worst!
"You don't have to suffer to convey suffering!"
- David Lynch
@@kamiladankowska5145 Artists don't have to suffer, but it's likely they do. As any human bean.
I've never been a fan of this more recent interpretation. Suffering does not automatically create great art, nor is suffering mandatory for the creation of great art, but a person powering through their suffering to create art, even when it hurts, shows a dedication to create something beautiful and ascend humanity. Regardless, having others who support you is also vital!
When they showed the film at my local library, we were lucky enough to have a Q&A sesh with 1 of the painters who worked on the film, a college art teacher who was recruited for the project via facebook. & yes, it was an extraordinary challenge, & she was clear about that, especially as somebody without an animation background prior to this, but she also took such delight in having been involved with it, & it deepened her appreciation for an artist she had studied, taught, & been inspired by her entire career in a way that no other project ever could have. There's no shame in taking shortcuts when they'll get you to the same place, but there are some places you can only get to the long way.
Always excited to see an upload.
Hope you’re feeling okay, man. You’re seen.
come to my channel see my stuff too
“Can you guys hear the motorcycle? I’m not gonna do a second take.” Too perfect
Those absolute madmen. They created a film where every frame was _literally_ a painting.
* Slow Clap *
2:30
@@IJVin Yes, I heard.
You're not wrong, but there is actually a Russian animator/filmmaker whose made a number of short films animated entirely by painting on glass. Feel free to look him and his work up, his name is Aleksandr Petrov.
and there's also like, anime
@@beflygelt anime is not oil painting
I started watching your videos way back years ago, and in one way or another you inspired me to study film. I'm graduating this summer.
Peace!
Good for you
Congratulations!
Your recreation of Adobe video tutorials is spot on. The bland delivery, the lack of production, I love it.
I was actually convinced this was really just gonna be a tutorial at first. I was like, cool, Kyle is branching out.
I thought it was an April fool's joke
He actually did tweet about how to do the effect months ago
@@mixmastermind Was it a serious tweet, or was it like this video where it didn't look good?
@@einootspork It was him I think trying the effect out unsuccessfully.
spoilers
what a lovely way to make your point further by cutting within the "tutorial". I was a bit confused when I saw the title in my sub feed but I'm glad that I clicked on it and checked it out
*'Artists, unlike art, don't get an afterlife'* _damn, Kyle_
>Clicked on video expecting silly April Fools joke parodying common video format.
>Got a thought-provoking video on the nature of art and UA-cam.
Only you, Kyle. Only you.
Other breadtubers did this as well, for one reason or another. Sincerity is the best humor of all.
Okay Martin Scorsese actor filmography include both Kurosawa and Shark tales
PUFF DADDY
For anyone who's actually curious how to get the oil painted effect into a video, there's an experimental AI tech called "style transfer" that can do it. It's not ready for production yet though.
Tbh that “tutorial” is still better than most Adobe anything tutorials. For starters, you don’t sound like you’re talking through a potato
**Notification comes up**
**Eyes narrow**
What are you up to Kyle?
*Slowly scratches chin*
Kyle, you clever dog.
Awesomeness. As usual, he is up to awesomeness.
The "make video good" is a tool that I really need in my pc
I really don't know why but him saying "yes I would like the garlic knots." made me chuckle
Benedict Cumberbatch also played Van Gogh in a documentary/dramatisation called 'Van Gogh: Painted With Words'. It was pretty good and had quite a lot of excerpts from Van Gogh's own letters to his brother.
Saw the notification and thought the channel was just headed in a completely different direction....And Kyle delivers brilliantly as always.
Redline from 2009 use 100,000 hand-made drawings for its 102 minutes, it took 7 years to make them.
Contrapoints and Kyle all in one weekend! Joy!
It’s the “last day of the month” effect
I would like some Garlic Knots too please.
we appreciate all you do! Big vids or small vids, or even taking some 'me time'! You are really awesome!
Preeeeeetty. Seriously, I have mad respect for all the work you put into these videos, Kyle. You are a treasure of UA-cam.
This was extraordinarily touching. Thank you
I get the joke, but you could probably get the effect you're looking for by making the foreground a separate layer from the background and modifying the warping effect a bit to make it look different. Not the same quality as "Loving Vincent" but you'd get an adequate effect.
Or if you want to go the AI route, you can set something up like the Deep Dream AI and have it render every frame of your video in any painter style you want
@@Johnny-vi7oq Google 2022
what you're really looking for, I suspect is an animated texture. Then again... now we're down a route where just painting the darn thing yourself is less of a pain.
I heard somewhere that de-anglicizing a foreign name and trying to pronounce it properly is so un-American that it might just cost you your citizenship
I got to see this movie in an art museum where I live. I found it extremely moving. Honestly, I was in tears by the end of it. I'm not ashamed to say that.
I had a similar effect going to the Norman Rockwell museum. Being a huge fan of Rockwell made seeing the actual paintings an almost religious experience, being able to see every brushstroke and even the texture of the brushes used gave more depth than the highest definition camera.
I drop my hat to the only person who could make a video tutorial a class about art history and philosophy.
Bravo! 👏 Ya did it again, Kyle.
Now I must see every version of a movie about Vincent Van Gogh!
Thanks Kyle. ☺
I also recommend the Doctor Who episode "Vincent and the Doctor" (season 5 I think). Seriously, it's genuinely touching and quite moving.
Oh man, now I can make loving Vincent, myself!
I want to go look at some oil painting.
There is so much to be said on these topics.
Um, Hey Kyle, this video is a metamodern masterpiece
You're giving me the feels again.
Sometimes I need that. Thank you.
dude I love how you cut this tutorial absolutely hilarious
hey i've always been a fan of your work but lately your videos have just been like. consistently moving. through research and analysis you touch my heart. thank you man
Why I never thought of doing this while in digital art class at SCAD is beyond me. Congrats on learning something new.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING HIS NAME PROPERLY. I mean, I never doubted you would, since we both share an expat childhood in the Netherlands, but it just bugs me so much when people say 'Van Go'. Like, in what language is 'gh' silent!? At least 'Van Goff' is an ATTEMPT.
That remark of "For the Month".
I just today (March 31st) posted a blog just so I would not break my multi-year streak of posting a blog at least monthly.
It was hacked out, made from a comment I had posted to something over on Fark that got enough "Smart" clicks to make me think it could be a blog if I fleshed it out.
I barely added anything.
It is difficult trying to keep up on something creative when having a full time job that saps all your energy.
Does this count as an April Fool's Day video?
Yet the budget of the film was only 5.5 million dollars and had a 42.1 million return; i wonder why ain't there more films like this. Four years doesn't seem that long to me.
Kyle, how dare you make me weep openly in my own house over my artistic integrity. I thought last Time was the last.
Oh man, I recently went back to school to work towards being some kind of art historian/archivist and this is making me so emotional. You've captured exactly what I love about art as objects worth protecting.
Disappointed you didn't mention Hannah Gadsby.
Her stand-up rant on Van Gogh and the idea that "art is suffering" is legendary.
Wow thank you. The most entertaining Tutorial I've ever seen!
Hardly the biggest issue, but you really nailed the tone of one-take extemporaneous UA-cam/podcast narration of someone guessing what they're saying as they say it.
Literally just watched the movie for the first time last week thank you for posting this.
I just watched this movie and loved and every second of it. Such a masterpiece.
No, I am not gonna do another take!!!! Love it!
I'm pleased to see you're moving away from that whole 'video essay' format and doing something profitable! Good thinking! *lights cigar*
In all seriousness, though, I can only hope more artists get the opportunity to make an impact like Van Gogh did. That they get that support, that love, which can make even the most dire of circumstances bearable. And I hope YOU have that, too, Kyle.
Came here for a normal tutorial but this guy’s also just hilarious
It's also a very sweet movie. I watched it several times, not just for its beauty. It's very affecting.
Saw this at the now defunct Lincoln Plaza Cinema on one the smallest theater screens I ever saw. It honestly felt like I was watching the paintings come to life. I loved this film.
Ps, I though that after discussing Nightwatching you wouldn’t talk about another art conspiracy film.
The romanticizing of the suffering artist hits real close to home.
The 2001 movie "Waking Life" was rotoscoped on a computer using a vector based program similar to Adobe Illustrator, but like the movie "Loving Vincent" each frame was drawn by hand. As far as I know there was nothing automatic about it. Each segment was done in a completely differing style. It was one of the most visually striking films I've seen. It's not available on Blu Ray in North America. The director, Richard Linklater, released another film in that technique, "A Scanner Darkly", 2006, but it only used a single style through out. Though now I have this movie to get my hands on.
There’s a documentary called The Power of Art where Andy Serkis plays Van Gogh in a few scenes. He eats paint. It’s a lot. Fun though.
My favorite tutorial on youtube!!
The painstaking execution of this movie deserved a far, far better script. For all the beauty of the visuals, the only time the movie truly moved me was when they used Van Gogh's own words. I wish they would have made a movie of his artistic life in his words, as far as they are available.
I like that even when you're purposefully trying to make a shitty video, you can't help yourself and sneak some high quality informative art appreciation in there.
I'm a comic artist and all of this really spoke to me because comics usually only exist as reproductions. Automation versus artistry (learning how do it, "suffering" to learn it, "suffering" while you draw the hard things) is also a big point of conflict. Do I paint this autumn forest background manually even though I know my audience will look at it for approximately 1 second and then move on? Or do I use an array of filters and brushes? Will I regress as an artist if I don't paint it? Will other artists look at me with disdain if I use shortcuts? With a painting you can at least count on people being primed to look at the details. Comics get eaten like popcon - which is fine. It just brings up some tough questions if you want to be successful and get things done in a timely fashion AND develop artistically.
I still get a little proud tingle whenever I hear your pretty Dutch :)
Beautiful commentary on the artistic process
Kudos for trying to get the pronounciation correct, but the first letter in "Gogh" is a regular english "g" like in "globule".
I don't know if this is a April Fool's joke, and I should ignore it, or if it is actually some very serious misinformation, which would make it my patriotic duty to correct.
Great film.
YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN
Kyle, I really wanna see you do a video on Harmony Korine
*gets notified that KKBHH uploaded again*
*drops everything to watch my favorite distinguished bi again*
*cue heart eyes emoji*
its super helpful to use photoshop prior to after effects with this kinda thing
I really like this video. This was good.
I would use the word "admirer" sparingly. I find that most crowds that flock to famous painting don't actually care about the art. They just want to take a selfie with it and move on. Something to show off that you saw, not something to admire.
It's really nice to see humour return to your videos. I'd kinda dropped off from watching your content because it's been so heavy, and it's great to see you lighten the mood without watering down the substance.
great video about making the attempt at quicky Van Gogh effect - will show my video students that failing is part of creating. - Isn't there a plug in for this one? haha - I recommend Loving Vincent and William Defoe's Vincent as well
I am, sadly, very, very out of practice, but consider lowering the opacity of the effect layer, to make it more subtle. Also consider throwing some "snow static nois" don't remember what the effect is actually called in AR, but think snow from an old TV not too ed to a chanel. Use that effecting conjunction with the palate & paint effects, maybe manipulate the size and shape of the fracture to get that almost static streaking effect van gogh tends to have in some of his more well known paintings.
Side note & question: why am I so lazy/inpatient? I know that when I was doing it in school I loved the rendering/composting process. Heck even editing, cause those 3 things are,where it all finally feels like a project is coming to get her. I probably lost all the skill I've learned due to being so out of practice.
want to do it properly? create a reference image with your actor using a neural network and make the rest of the animation with EbSynth
wow great , thanks mate . Where can I get those textures you were showing ?
Absolutely loved this video😂
First Dan Olsen switches to Fortnite, then HBomberGuy does Transformers and now an Adobe tutorial from Kyle? Also the Adaptation episode from Lessons From The Screenplay?! UA-cam whats happening? So much new creative energy! O right, Internet Comment Ettiquette did a video on wholesome cuteness. Council of Geeks brought Vera out for a whole video. What's next?!
It's a shame it didn't win an Academy award :(
Man, that was such a good movie.
The movie and this video are wonderful
I watched this video without looking at the posting date, and worked out what was going on after only about 10 seconds of "Uh, did I click the right thumbnail?"
Was the title only recently (like, since April 2022) changed from one declaring it to be a real tutorial or something? Because there seem to be a lot of genuinely irate comments below - I mean sure, _some_ of them are probably sarcasm, but still...
Wow kyle becomes an auteur
hi, where can I get those textures?
did you find it?
Got me there good, kyle!
You do good work, and you can take time if you need. I'm not gonna demand anything. Heck, you name drop EFAP, who I STILL have listed on Patreon in case they ever... ever?... ever want another go at it. Happy Spring.
I suppose that the frames are the one that makes the big difference?
Please provide the link to the textures you used please!!
Great tutorial~!!!I love it~! How do I get SAME texture images for free?
did you find it?
ahhh so good
Can't wait for next month when you become an oil painting channel
And now Kyle is an SFX channel
Fantastic, I loved this vid!
this effects reminds me of wat the carpet looked like for me on acid lmao now that i think about it i wanna get real creative and try to replicate the things i saw on it and make it into a video
I appreciate your pronounciation of his name. Goed werk.
shoutout to all artist of any kind for your suffering.
I know we can't comment and leave likes all the time, but remember you are being seen.
Thanks.
Kyle, are you okay? Do you need a hug?
DAMN BRO I JUST EARNED 200 $ WITH YOUR TUTORIAL
The Green Goblin played Vincent Van Gogh... Why was I not informed of this earlier???
I was convinced this was going to be a bad april fools joke and almost didn't watch it. Thankfully I did.
You gonna share those garlic knots with the rest of the class, Kyle?