+mike dugan Because that isn't normal drilling, but by melting through the different materials that is listed at below video. Metal drilling is slow process and this is fast, fee seconds per hole. But bad side is that this leaves material around hole so it can't be used so well as normal drill.
+KastaRules right, but this makes use of the existing metal, no need for extra weight (that does matter in some applications), or any more than 2 steps.
For me it seems like very creative and extremely helpful idea for somewhat light jobs. Just imagine, you can have a quick thread from the side of a thin walled pipe !
That would be useful in the shop I used to work at. We worked with lots of stainless HSS with lots of holes drilled and tapped. Often have to tack a nut or extra plate inside or on top to give some thread depth, and it is all food grade so the no filings is a huge bonus as well. With any production tool, longevity is an important question, but the time savings on cleanup and bonus tapping strength is huge.
Check out their website. This isn't a drill and you can't use a drill or drill press. You have to have something a lot more powerfull. A collumn drilling machine or NC or CNC machine. You'll have to click the little British flag to see it in English.
really innovative... excellent for home projects for a very custom/pro look. Agreed that you wouldn't want to use this in the brewing industry, but excellent for many applications.
Might be helpful if in the description they put a URL where to get them or at least a bit more information so people would know what is going on and why. I'll have to see if they have some for 1/4 inch taps and #6 and #8 as I use them frequently.
it's not threading at the same time as the drilling. they still tapped it afterwards to show the benefit of having the extra big burr created by the "drill".
This technique is only useful for a very little spectrum of applications. From the metallographic point of view, as the metal is getting to hot, the crystal structure of the metal is deformed. The "hot drilled" point will have so higher hardness levels than the other part of the metal that the metal Grains near the hole will be so much and small in size than the whole other metal body, that homogeneity is sucked!! ex. A stainless steel pipe at high pressures with a tension using this hole, a ring around the hole will break off like an apple. For sure, for heavy duty applications, further processing is required.
The bits wouldn't last long as they are constantly heated cherry red then slow cooled-this would make them softer.Try doing this with a normal tungsten drill and it would be snafu after the first hole!
* No material is lost. The excess material forms a sleeve that is about 3 times longer than the original thickness of the target material, which makes it possible to make very strong bolt joints in thin material. * It is a clean process because no litter (particles) is produced. * No access needed to back of workpiece, as with rivet nuts. * Tool life span is upwards of 25 times longer than conventional drills. The holder is made to form the sleeve, it is part of the tool.
awesome that would come in handy if it could be used on a drill in the field instead of cutting threading and installing tees on pipes just drill and tap
This melts a tenon on it what could be used to tap stuff into making a larger surface for the screw to hold, this is perfect for certain puposes. I think some central heating companies are very interested for mounting sensors and stuf this way. Making structures for hanging their systems on. And so on. Great saves on production and welding. Just a drill and tap in the process some kind of o-ring and it's water tight.
No metal is lost, which is good, you get more surface to tap and the drill lifetime is somewhere in the realms of 25 times longer than normal cutting drills.
Totally different application. It looks like they want the tenon and the flange for bolting into. A twist bit or a spur bit would only leave the thickness of the wall. Once tapped there would only be a few threads, where this technique leaves many more threads and is much quicker with no chips left to clean up. In a big production this would be much more efficient. The bigger downside is the strength of the threads, they would wear out over repeated use.
Once the metal heats and begins to flow, you must NOT stop the downward movement until you have completed beading over the flange. White hot, is too hot and will drastically shorten the life of the drill.
* No material is lost. The excess material forms a sleeve that is about 3 times longer than the original thickness of the target material, which makes it possible to make very strong bolt joints in thin material. * It is a clean process because no litter (particles) is produced. * No access needed to back of workpiece, as with rivet nuts. * Tool life span is upwards of 25 times longer than conventional drills.
@GeneralG1810 Coolant would only ruin the effect of this kind of drill. This isn't your typical toothed drill bit, Instead it uses friction to melt out the centerpoint
Okay now I got it...it's cutting using pure friction, hence no burrs and really good finish, without loosing any material...but, such are not commonly used...
That would be awsome to own as attaching parts to a motorcycle frame can be hard work at times with drilling and threading or captive nuts this seems to create a perfect base for threads
What's the advantage compared to conventional drilling ? it just create hot spots in the metal parts, create an fat edge which would have to be removed after. Well I can't figure out the purpose of that so called " innovative technique " !
Right. I see heat fatigued material the square stock started to warp and blue is burn damaged material which is radiating out past the drill hole. Maybe if anything a faster technique and a bit that lasts longer, but if you have to debur you way passed lost the extra time gained. I'm not a machinist so I could be missing something.
***** "Yeah. You go ahead and try to tap threads into that steel that's been heated red hot and cooled and see what happens." You can see 2 holes being threaded at the end of the video.... Heating steel to cherry red and allowing it cool slowly is known as normalizing or annealing, this process strips the steel of any heat treatment properties, and leaves it soft.
It is for small wall Sizes of pipes, when you need to screw something in. The material melts into the pipe and you have more space for cutting the screw thread.
flo drill video. watching work stuff. new low. only time it's fun is when a chunk of red hot steel spits off at your face. the paste is sticky as hell too.
thats a minor market relative to the hole making industry. most hole making results in clean and burr-less holes. Need threads? Many ways to accomplish that. This isn't the only way.
this is a technic not for drilling holes but for getting more material for threading ok you get a hole allso :-) and you can du this on any drill press
Can someone explain why this is preferable to just a drill+center drill? I don't quite understand. Kinda looks like it will start a fire, too (I know it won't really)
That is the drill that will take you to the heaven. Don´t beleave in me that believes in you, dont believe in yourself that believes in me, believe in you that believes in yourself... Who the fuck do you think i am?!?
LOL did I piss you off by by saying its sloppy? ha. I have been going all my life thinking a drill makes a round hole. Maybe I will try the square bit next time. And if your going to thread that hole, fine, this system works. If you dont, just a huge burr to me.
+_404_Error before this, one had to drill a hole, place a rivet, set the rivet, thread the rivet (or pay more for threaded rivets), then secure the rivet in place either with adhesive or a tack weld. rivet and ashesive/weld add extra weight and weak spots. creating the rivet from the existing metal and then threading it creates a perfect bond without the need for any extra weight or work. TL;DR: It takes a 3-5 step process down to 2. That saves LOADS of time, energy, and resources over the span of a project.
+_404_Error Well, fucker, those fucking rivets are fucking necessary, because fucking otherwise there would be fucking nothing to fucking hold the fucking thread. Fucker.
i guess it doest because of the speed it heats up.. I've never seen something like this before and i bet the reason is it isnt very productive in some way
This process is not to merely drill a hole. Thermal drilling is almost always employed to provide an extended surface for threading, in thinner material, eliminating the need to weld a threaded nut, for fastening.
S235J2G3 image looked dangerus whit the flying peces of metal going every were and also i agree whit organicdrew a bout the bacteria and also the pece that comes down from the drill will be very week be cose of the manipulation of the steel i would rather velt it to the metal to give the fastener some suport if it´s important for thad kind of work
How does the drill bit survive all that friction heating? Does it have a cutting edge, or does it work entirely from friction? Being able to add a tapped hole is nifty. What are the applications of this process?
The bit is made of tugsten carbide. Since it is a sintered ceramic of sorts, it can withstand incredibly high heat without any affect to itself. No cutting edge, but they tend to be shaped like a very rounded square rather than a circle down the axis of rotation. Applications are mainly to allow more than just a few threads to be cut into thin wall material.
Ignorance is believing twist drills dont make round hole. What shape do they make guy? Triangular? Hexagonal? They (holes) might need to be bored out to make a finer finish.. Take a drill, drill a hole and ask anyone what shape that is. And the answer you will get every time is round. Thank you!
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wtf am i doing here i have a exam tommorrow
+quirijn van Wingen same hahahahha
+100ignacio100 oooooooooooooooo, aburn.
+quirijn van Wingen me too...
same as the rest of us...
did you pass?
I'm at the weird part of UA-cam...Again..
yeah, this isn't even close to bordering the weird part of UA-cam.
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Lol how is drilling metal weird
+mike dugan Because that isn't normal drilling, but by melting through the different materials that is listed at below video. Metal drilling is slow process and this is fast, fee seconds per hole. But bad side is that this leaves material around hole so it can't be used so well as normal drill.
Did I seriously just sit here and watch things getting drilled for 3 minutes?
ThundertonTV Did you learn that from Call of Duty?
ThundertonTV You don't even spell either. Fucking loser.
yes, and i bet you tried to think of how you can justify getting one too. everyone needs more tools!!!!
fitztheviking not gonna lie, I kinda tried.
Actually quite handy if you want to tap thin metal it will give you a little extra meat to grip onto.
Thats cool
+Robert Ritchie there's threaded rivets for that...
+KastaRules right, but this makes use of the existing metal, no need for extra weight (that does matter in some applications), or any more than 2 steps.
For me it seems like very creative and extremely helpful idea for somewhat light jobs.
Just imagine, you can have a quick thread from the side of a thin walled pipe !
That would be useful in the shop I used to work at. We worked with lots of stainless HSS with lots of holes drilled and tapped. Often have to tack a nut or extra plate inside or on top to give some thread depth, and it is all food grade so the no filings is a huge bonus as well. With any production tool, longevity is an important question, but the time savings on cleanup and bonus tapping strength is huge.
These holes don't need to be deburred or cleaned up. The intent is leave more material to tap for a stronger threaded hole.
Check out their website. This isn't a drill and you can't use a drill or drill press. You have to have something a lot more powerfull. A collumn drilling machine or NC or CNC machine. You'll have to click the little British flag to see it in English.
really innovative... excellent for home projects for a very custom/pro look. Agreed that you wouldn't want to use this in the brewing industry, but excellent for many applications.
Im a welder/fabricator by trade, i can see many uses for this system on the race car chassis i build.
Might be helpful if in the description they put a URL where to get them or at least a bit more information so people would know what is going on and why. I'll have to see if they have some for 1/4 inch taps and #6 and #8 as I use them frequently.
Did you see how red that drill bit got? The power of friction is incredible!
Who all are recommended this after 12 years
That it does not cut through but push aside, leaving enough material to thread.
No waste, no inserts, no nuts. Nice.
It all becomes clear...fantastic.
neat bit....would have been nice to get some voice over...but I got the point.
This is sooo awesome, i wish more people to understand why.
Looks like a great way to create bosses, no swarf and maximised length of thread! Far stronger than conventional drilling and tapping!
drilling and treading at desame time,no hand tapping,super Excellent.
it's not threading at the same time as the drilling. they still tapped it afterwards to show the benefit of having the extra big burr created by the "drill".
This technique is only useful for a very little spectrum of applications. From the metallographic point of view, as the metal is getting to hot, the crystal structure of the metal is deformed. The "hot drilled" point will have so higher hardness levels than the other part of the metal that the metal Grains near the hole will be so much and small in size than the whole other metal body, that homogeneity is sucked!! ex. A stainless steel pipe at high pressures with a tension using this hole, a ring around the hole will break off like an apple. For sure, for heavy duty applications, further processing is required.
Dont use it on items sensitive to specific harness. Other than that, this is brilliant, and has a multitude of uses!!
The bits wouldn't last long as they are constantly heated cherry red then slow cooled-this would make them softer.Try doing this with a normal tungsten drill and it would be snafu
after the first hole!
Neat! I'd be concerned about introducing weak points from heat stress.
* No material is lost. The excess material forms a sleeve that is about 3 times longer than the original thickness of the target material, which makes it possible to make very strong bolt joints in thin material.
* It is a clean process because no litter (particles) is produced.
* No access needed to back of workpiece, as with rivet nuts.
* Tool life span is upwards of 25 times longer than conventional drills.
The holder is made to form the sleeve, it is part of the tool.
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awesome that would come in handy if it could be used on a drill in the field instead of cutting threading and installing tees on pipes just drill and tap
This melts a tenon on it what could be used to tap stuff into making a larger surface for the screw to hold, this is perfect for certain puposes. I think some central heating companies are very interested for mounting sensors and stuf this way. Making structures for hanging their systems on. And so on. Great saves on production and welding. Just a drill and tap in the process some kind of o-ring and it's water tight.
No metal is lost, which is good, you get more surface to tap and the drill lifetime is somewhere in the realms of 25 times longer than normal cutting drills.
I thought it was useless until they started threading it, then it made sense.
Wow, that's impressive and very handy.
burr is the point of this kind of drilling, its so you can have a thinner plate while using the consistent burr to tap the hole you made.
Totally different application. It looks like they want the tenon and the flange for bolting into. A twist bit or a spur bit would only leave the thickness of the wall. Once tapped there would only be a few threads, where this technique leaves many more threads and is much quicker with no chips left to clean up. In a big production this would be much more efficient. The bigger downside is the strength of the threads, they would wear out over repeated use.
Once the metal heats and begins to flow, you must NOT stop the downward movement until you have completed beading over the flange. White hot, is too hot and will drastically shorten the life of the drill.
* No material is lost. The excess material forms a sleeve that is about 3 times longer than the original thickness of the target material, which makes it possible to make very strong bolt joints in thin material.
* It is a clean process because no litter (particles) is produced.
* No access needed to back of workpiece, as with rivet nuts.
* Tool life span is upwards of 25 times longer than conventional drills.
It would muck up any temper etc OK for mild steel though
Exactly what I was thinking.... that and the quality of the holes. That said it is fast.
Think this is called flow drilling, haven't tried it yet but looks cool.
Im pretty sure you just do maximum speed for most friction and the "feed" is done by hand just push as hard as you can.
Now how do you get rid of the excess metal? Grinder? Additional work!
Leo Moralina You can usually clean that up with an old pocket knife pretty quickly
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Leo Moralina It is not intended for boring a clean hole. It is intended to produce excess material for extra thread surface.
exactly
+BurnerProducts RocketStoves I wonder if the metal around the hole become harder to tap, because it effectively gets heat treated.
@GeneralG1810 Coolant would only ruin the effect of this kind of drill. This isn't your typical toothed drill bit, Instead it uses friction to melt out the centerpoint
By my understanding, the tip applies heat that softens the metal, and pressure is applied to move away the material.. I like it.
Ei näyttäisi tulevan kovin kummoista katkolastua... i see some loosen edge, perhaps some coolant wanted. Best regards Swedish Machinist
Okay now I got it...it's cutting using pure friction, hence no burrs and really good finish, without loosing any material...but, such are not commonly used...
That would be awsome to own as attaching parts to a motorcycle frame can be hard work at times with drilling and threading or captive nuts this seems to create a perfect base for threads
I finally understood the concept. Please excuse my ignorance.
This drill is nuclear just like those secret ones that make all the tunnels and area51 like places.
What's the advantage compared to conventional drilling ? it just create hot spots in the metal parts, create an fat edge which would have to be removed after. Well I can't figure out the purpose of that so called " innovative technique " !
it leaves no chips so it's easy to cleanup and those flat edges on round stock can be exactly what you want and then this is a good solution
you've got something longer than just the tube's wall thickness to tap threads
Right. I see heat fatigued material the square stock started to warp and blue is burn damaged material which is radiating out past the drill hole. Maybe if anything a faster technique and a bit that lasts longer, but if you have to debur you way passed lost the extra time gained. I'm not a machinist so I could be missing something.
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Umm considering they tap it in the video I'm going to say that it works....
***** "Yeah. You go ahead and try to tap threads into that steel that's been heated red hot and cooled and see what happens."
You can see 2 holes being threaded at the end of the video....
Heating steel to cherry red and allowing it cool slowly is known as normalizing or annealing, this process strips the steel of any heat treatment properties, and leaves it soft.
You could just use a riv nut, but I guess this looks cooler.
how long do you have to let it cool down before you drill the next hole?
At first I was like what, that's totally dumb then I kept thinking about how you could thread more in your already limited space. I like it.
I do this at work, its called flowdrill. It's a pain in the ass.
Its so lovely to watch it turn into 'red' slowly at 0:48
Is your point that the material doesn't flex as much as it would normally? I guess I still don't get it.
Some material dose leave litter you can see it in the video but that being said this thing works amazing is it the bit or is the drill press different
the "burr" is intentional, this way you have extra material to thread as shown in the video.
It is very fine tool, I never seen this before.
It is for small wall Sizes of pipes, when you need to screw something in.
The material melts into the pipe and you have more space for cutting the screw thread.
awesome!!
Much appreciated :)
Next task : Drill to the Center of the Earth
she said, "that's a hard drill"
That's how they want them...if they want a clean hole they would use a regular drll bit and countersinking bit,...
flo drill video. watching work stuff. new low. only time it's fun is when a chunk of red hot steel spits off at your face. the paste is sticky as hell too.
I think this way you won't end up with a crack developing at the drilled hole, but I don't see many practical uses of the end result.
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for taping and drill longevity, good point.
thats a minor market relative to the hole making industry. most hole making results in clean and burr-less holes. Need threads? Many ways to accomplish that. This isn't the only way.
this is a technic not for drilling holes but for getting more material for threading ok you get a hole
allso :-) and you can du this on any drill press
Can someone explain why this is preferable to just a drill+center drill? I don't quite understand. Kinda looks like it will start a fire, too (I know it won't really)
the drill produces too much heat and doesn't really remove muck material. the bit mostly pushes the extra material t the side
That is the drill that will take you to the heaven. Don´t beleave in me that believes in you, dont believe in yourself that believes in me, believe in you that believes in yourself...
Who the fuck do you think i am?!?
+Nacho Franc Oh, OH! I know!
Nacho Franc?
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Yes!
+Nacho Franc i am ashamed that i know, bro.
LOL did I piss you off by by saying its sloppy? ha. I have been going all my life thinking a drill makes a round hole. Maybe I will try the square bit next time. And if your going to thread that hole, fine, this system works. If you dont, just a huge burr to me.
this is how i feel when i stretch my ears
Alright I understand why this would be preferable in that case. Thanks for your time.
that's genius
Does anyone know the metal of the tip,tungsten?
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I want one!
what the hell are the bits made from?
What's the benefit of this? Creating a bigger contact area for the screw?
yes.
is that a dril bit or a grinder pleas respond
How noisy is this? Is it inexpensive and portable? Will it work on bank vaults? Asking for a friend...
No. Bank vaults are way too thick. But the process is as quiet as the machine driving the bit. They are expensive, though.
Of course any heat treatment would need to be after this operation, or at least take it into account.
and whats the inovational part of this?
+Christoph Schneider You can make room for a screw into a thin metal sheet without welding a nut!
+Rodolfo Agustinho But how is that innovative?
+_404_Error
before this, one had to drill a hole, place a rivet, set the rivet, thread the rivet (or pay more for threaded rivets), then secure the rivet in place either with adhesive or a tack weld. rivet and ashesive/weld add extra weight and weak spots.
creating the rivet from the existing metal and then threading it creates a perfect bond without the need for any extra weight or work.
TL;DR: It takes a 3-5 step process down to 2. That saves LOADS of time, energy, and resources over the span of a project.
I-Love-CO Mountains Then don't use fucking rivets.
+_404_Error Well, fucker, those fucking rivets are fucking necessary, because fucking otherwise there would be fucking nothing to fucking hold the fucking thread. Fucker.
ну и для чего эта шняга такая, резьбу резать???
i dont like the drill it leaves a tiny metal inside and you will still need to remove it with a pencil grinder
Looks like the RPG impact with slow motion camera.
i guess it doest because of the speed it heats up.. I've never seen something like this before and i bet the reason is it isnt very productive in some way
It's not really drilling is it? If there's no cutting shouldn't it be called something else entirely?
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Two seconds to drill, two hours to clean up the hole... lol
This process is not to merely drill a hole. Thermal drilling is almost always employed to provide an extended surface for threading, in thinner material, eliminating the need to weld a threaded nut, for fastening.
OK lets say I am interested, how do I buy these ? website ?
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where Ican bye that tool?
what does it do to wood
S235J2G3 image looked dangerus whit the flying peces of metal going every were and also i agree whit organicdrew a bout the bacteria and also the pece that comes down from the drill will be very week be cose of the manipulation of the steel i would rather velt it to the metal to give the fastener some suport if it´s important for thad kind of work
Beautiful
The flow drilling bit is made for high temperature, as it is ceramic.
ok i might have used too strong of a word. but that was my first reaction. now after thinking about it, shit, its so crazy that it might just work.
How does the drill bit survive all that friction heating?
Does it have a cutting edge, or does it work entirely from friction?
Being able to add a tapped hole is nifty. What are the applications of this process?
I think its made of industrial diamond or ceramic
this is a DC current shortage as like in spot welding
The bit is made of tugsten carbide. Since it is a sintered ceramic of sorts, it can withstand incredibly high heat without any affect to itself.
No cutting edge, but they tend to be shaped like a very rounded square rather than a circle down the axis of rotation.
Applications are mainly to allow more than just a few threads to be cut into thin wall material.
Ignorance is believing twist drills dont make round hole. What shape do they make guy? Triangular? Hexagonal? They (holes) might need to be bored out to make a finer finish.. Take a drill, drill a hole and ask anyone what shape that is. And the answer you will get every time is round. Thank you!