Got my w800 3 weeks ago. 2nd Kawasaki, and couldn’t be happier. Except the ground clearance. Could use half an inch, coming up steep city ramps can be annoying. Also, though the tires are PRETTY. I do not like the grip.
True, where I live it costs as much if not more than a Triumph Street Twin. I once sat on one and took a good look up close. the engine is a beauty to look at IMO and it really feels well built and felt truly Made In Japan, as it was assembled with pride. If I got the money to buy a new one I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.
Very relaxing and thoughtful video , the 'Itchy-Boots' comment makes total-sense . To add a little-different perspective to the 'W'-bikes (I have a low-mileage w650 ) , they were originally 'Only' intended for the Japanese domestic-market . The retro-bike scene in Japan is very-active with incredible-machines of all-years from around The World , mainly British , American and their own famous models . The sky-rocketing-prices of old bikes , led to the creation of the W650 which emulated a 60's Bonneville with a 40's Manx-Norton bevel-drive camshaft .The vibration some people complain-about , was intentional to make it more 'authentic' ,as the first proto-type-engines were considered 'too-smooth' . Kawasaki Dealerships asked for the w650 World-Wide and after 2-years Kawasaki agreed, releasing-them to the rest of the World . They withdrew the w650 from the US when Triumph entered the Modern-Retro-Market , as they believed it wouldn't compete l with the larger-capacity-twin ,( which it was never designed to do) Kawasaki didn't want any negative-impact on their 'Brand' in their 'Largest-Market' . It was only pressure from US-Distributors that resulted in W800's going to the US , otherwise they-too were not going to be offered there either . While the reviewers umm and aarr over the merits and failings of the 'W' , comparing them to all-manner of other 'offerings' , they remain the only 'True' 360-degree, long-stroke upright-twin in the modern-market . They Do evoke memories of the bikes I grew-up with and are such simple and elegant-machines to own, ride and service . Owners may tire of people commenting on 'The great restoration' , I reply; 'Thanks' . I am now nearly 70 , so it must be time to buy another pre-loved-bargain ! Stay-Upright and smiling . Dave NZ
First, I am biased. I own the 2020 W800 cafe. I did put the black storage rack on and a tail bag. Great addition. Never dropped a bike other then being tired in a garage twice, BMW R1150RT, both in the evening after a long day aforgot to put down the sidestand. Never put on engine guards. Also don't do trail riding in the environment that I have lived in the last 22 years of riding. Your video voice reminds me of being a kid watching educational videos. Makes me feel good. I subscribed, as you are assisting me to try the UA-cam as a creator to expand my education in a hobby that I love. Keep up the great work. I also agree on the right tool for the job. Also own a Concours 14 , 2021 that I use for my 3 hours plus in the saddle. Keep up the great work. I Don sell my stuff, so I buy new and keep it for as long as it wants to run. 2000 Dodge Dakota with 209k miles on it. But she doesn't want to run right now, so I am dependent on my two bikes. I did get my cafe at a very discounted rate. Had to travel, but worth the extra 300 dollars as I got it below 7k 💸
Thank you for commenting! I had an 84' BMW R100RTp that I had 330,000 miles on before I gifted her to a friend. The boxer motor is definitely a workhorse! The dirt/trail riding her is new to me, just started doing that in the last four years, otherwise I was tarmac / paved road only. (with very few exceptions). I encourage you to try the creator thing. I've been doing UA-cam in one form or another for 6 years now, I've never hit "viral" status, more of a hobby for me to share my passions. This channel is the only one that I've done that has seen any real traction, but it's rewarding and exciting either way. Nice to hear from so many others that believe in repairing and keeping vehicles instead of just trading them out every few years. You got a fantastic deal on your W800, I hope you really enjoy it!
I have the 2019 “Cafe”. The only thing I did to it was add a center stand. Great bike, the sensory experience while riding it gives me that “WW2 fighter plane” vibe I used to get from my old A65.
I get your meaning! Thank you for commenting! I absolutely *love* the feeling of riding the W... sliding through space and time... like flying just a few feet off the ground.
Hi Frank, I ordered it from the dealer, the stock one that comes on the standard bike. There are some fitment issues mounting it on the Cafe, I chopped off the passenger boot guard on the left side so the stand could retract all the way. You might not have that issue with thhe Street, I dont know. I like the Street version, if it had been available in the US, Id have bought it. Cheers!
I bought the cafe version of the w800 ( 2019) and other than replacing the clubman handle bars this is my last new bike also. . I too love the feeling of riding in 1970 and it is a fantastic motorcycle. Gotta love the bevel drive look on the engine. I will replace the tires when they are worn with something stickier also. Good Luck and great choice for your last NEW bike.
I ride an early W800 (2011) that has a few simple mods, I've had it for over 3 years now and it's still going strong. I love this thing, I can't see myself getting rid of it anytime soon.
Not much really, I have: - high rise handlebars (instead of fitting risers) - shorter fenders front and rear - aftermarket turn signals and taillight - the seat is re-upholstered with the white piping to make it look like a later Special Edition (2016 onwards) - i also bought a second seat, that I like to fit every now and then to change the look. I had an attempt at posting videos on youtube, but I guess I did not feel like the production quality or my ideas where worthy of continuing. Anyway, if you're curious you should be able to see the handle bars there. I never filmed the rest of the bike. :) Later edit: there is also a tank cover that I like to fit on it from time to time. I like it because it comes with fittings for a tank bag, really handy on longer rides. Later later edit: i forgot about the steel braided brake line on the front - worth every penny, really changes the braking feel (older models come with drum brakes at the back, so nothing to do there).
@@motorcyclebutslow5967 The steel braided lines do make a big difference, I have those on my 2003 BMW R1200CLC, worth every penny, I agree! I'll check out your video(s)!
@@motorcyclebutslow5967 The format you use (video + music) I had a similar channel here: ua-cam.com/channels/ZcaIppZfZfrLJHBw1AY9bQ.html I mean it's still my channel but I don't add to it anymore, LOTS of videos over many years. I experimented with AI narration, but that didn't work out too well either. My wife does a UA-cam channel that's far more popular, so I took her advice and re-launched where I do the narration, has worked out for many more views.
Nothing can beat the W800 for one simple reason... the engine is air cooled! none of the other competitors are! My ride is a Moto Guzzi V11 Le Mans 2004, and I am yet to find anything that can procure the same level of thrill. Currently through my 26th stop of the Motorcycle Grand Tour of Texas. I have been considering the purchase of a second bike, as the Guzzi is sometimes capricious with the details. If you want to be mesmerized with tires, try the Michelin Road Classic. You will be really surprised how good they are. Not only stylish and fitting well with the spirit of the bike, but riding on the gravel will be like a walk in the park!
I went with Bridgestone Battlax bt46 as I couldn't find the Michelin road classic's in stock anywhere and didn't want to wait any longer. So far so good, much better than the Dunlop tires. The Dunlops always felt sketchy to me and I never really trusted them.
@@derangeddwayne5532 - Fortnine has a video on 'brand name' tires that manufacturers use that may not be up to standards for non-manufacturer specific tires from the same vendor (Pirelli was featured I think) - The Dunlops that come with it, get a bit janky at interstate speeds ( > 70mph) IMHO. They seem perfectly adequate for low (city) speeds (25-35 mph) but I do really appreciate the feedback on the BT46 Bridgestones. There are a ton of 'twisties' through the woods on 50mph roads. Would love a tire that I can be completely confident making swerves or other adjustments if need be.
I did my first oil change on my 2022 w800. So far I have added the factory grab rail and chrome throttle body covers. Like you said the seat is nice looking but for me uncomfortable after about 45 minutes. I'm 6 foot. And find that I have to scoot back to have enough room and I end up sitting on hardest part of the seat. I want to install w800 street handlebars which should help. In Japan these bikes are very popular and they have tons of aftermarket parts. Webike Japan is a great place to buy parts for the new w800.
Also own the W800 albeit a Cafe model. I do believe it is the only current engine with a bevel drive camshaft and I do believe the only classic style retro with a parallel twin (360 degree crank) vs an inline twin.
The new Triumph (water cooled) are in fact not Parallel twins. A Parallel twin has a 360 degree crank, just like a vertical twin has a 180 degree one. The term straight twin or inline would describe the twins from Triumph and Royal Enfield which both have 270. Which to add confusion is a cross plane crank... They incorrectly use the term Parallel as marketing.
@@andrewhannam. Surely the term "parallel twin" refers to the cylinder configuration, to differentiate them from v-twins and horizontally opposed twins, so can equally be applied to engines with various crankshaft designs, as long as the cylinder bores are parallel.
@@rickconstant6106 the engine terms of cylinder attachment is based on piston travel and crank angles. 360 degree parallel twins have the piston in the same parallel position... Like a 180 degree vertical twin has the pistons position vertical from each other (one up at TDC, one down BDC).. inline twin or straight twin is the relative position of a Cross plane 270 degree since one piston is between it's stroke when the other has completed it. I could go on about primary, secondary forces, rotating couple and pumping loses between them.... The fact is that we have forgotten where these names have come from and everything is marketing...
I'm from Sherbrooke, Quebec.... watching your video I thought the scenery look familiar.... I enjoy Vermont, it's so beautiful and people are very nice 😊
I love Quebec, such a beautiful landscape! I am at a disadvantage as I do not speak French, but when I have been to Sherbrooke people were very forgiving of my lack of language skills. Learning French is definitely on my to do list so I'm not such an 'ugly American' when I travel through Quebec. In the summer, we do see a *lot* of license plates from Canada, even as far away as Ontario or Alberta.
If it had tubeless tires I would have a W800. But considering the hell I've been through over a few decades because of tube type tires, I won't go anywhere near a bike with tube type tires. This is 2023, and there is no reason why a bike needs to have tube type tires. Cars went to tubeless tires in the late '40s/early '50s. You could get motorcycles with tubeless tires in the '70s. It just seems insane that we still have these nightmare tires in 2023. I have almost been killed by them, I have been stranded dozens of times by them, I have spent thousands of $$$ on towing bills, motels, and dealer charges for replacing tubes after having the bike towed there. I have missed many days of work. On the other hand, I have a Kawasaki Vulcan 750 with tubeless tires that I have put 128,000 miles on (so far) without a single flat tire, and it has never been on a tow truck. It's decades past time for tube type tires on motorcycles to die.
I suppose one could switch out the rims for a tubeless setup... If you are in the USA I do recommend joining the AMA (American Motorcyclist Association) - part of membership is roadside assistance. Thank you for commenting!
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I have roadside assistance, but it has a 50 mile towing limit, which means I wouldn't ride a bike with tube type tires more than 50 miles from home.
@@geraldscott4302 Yeah 50 miles isn't much is it? I'm not sure what the AMA offers. There are (or I have seen) spoked tubeless rims, but the W definitely uses tubed tires.
Another thoughtful and insightful video on the W800. A few observations, if I may. The modern retro classic market is dominated by RE and Triumph and for them, especially RE, Retro styled bikes are a major source of sales. For Kawasaki Retro seems to be a minor part of their output with very little effort put into marketing and no attempt to cut costs to compete with the RE 650s. Dealers must stock the W reluctantly, it being such a slow seller. And when did you last hear anyone admit to paying full price for one? For anyone who cannot stretch to buying new, albeit discounted, bear in mind that the bike has only undergone minimal upgrades since it was released in 2011, (yes I understand North America did not get it till 2019). From what I can see, many were bought new by older, fastidious owners and only ridden now and again. So if you find the right bike, buying a used W could save you $$$$. Here in Australia I bought a 2015 Black Edition with 2400 klms, (1500 miles) on the clock. For safety I have replaced the nine years old tyres. I have registered and insured the bike for 12 months. Total cost to me is less than half the price of a new one for a bike that looks like new. Stay safe.
I'm not entirely sure why Kawasaki doesn't advertise the W series more, in the states I absolutely advise people buy either used, or new old stock (previous years that hadn't been sold at the dealer) because deals are to be had! It's such a pleasure to ride, I think in part it's that the specs just don't do the bike justice. Keep the shiny side up!
Got my w800 3 weeks ago. 2nd Kawasaki, and couldn’t be happier. Except the ground clearance. Could use half an inch, coming up steep city ramps can be annoying. Also, though the tires are PRETTY. I do not like the grip. Could not find a bike that persisted the vintage look so precisely. The air cooling is so pretty ❤️
How many miles do you have on your W now? What year is yours? Mine is the 2020 W800 (no cafe, no street) - I did put risers on to put the bars where I wanted them (I'm 5'8" so it may be a short guy issue)... tail bag (so I can bring first aid kid, tire kit, tools etc.), the fly screen, visor, and have crash bars on the way. I just don't understand why this bike didn't do well in the sales category. Visually, it's the tops!!
I added the factory rear luggage rack and attached a small Viking tail bag to it. I hadn't heard of the omega flyscreen, going to check into that for sure.
I've added a tail bag to mine also (just on the passenger bit of the seat). Omega Racer: www.omegaracer.com/cat_782642-kawasaki-w650-w800-parts/ I have crash bars on order, will do a video once they come in and I have them mounted and ready to go.
My fave was also a parallel twin (a 1974 TS or TX 500) I ride a 2007 C50 Suzuki now. I had 2 inline 4`s, 1980 GS550 and 1991 Nighthawk 750. These are midsize by today`s standards, but good enough for me.
I'm in my 50s.... and in my head... a small bike is up to 350cc... medsize are between 400 and 650cc, and bike bikes are 700cc and over... I realize that big bikes now are the Rocket III at 2.3 liters, and whatever mondo v-twins HD, Indian, Honda are cranking out, let's not forget Beemers now having an 1800cc boxer... As my beard as gone 'chrome' and my head has gone bald, I realize that for me, it's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast at 50mph than a fast bike slow at 50mph. Just my .02
I think the W800 is the prettiest motorcycle on the road.It is the closest thing to a BSA twin. I love the 360 degree crankshaft and the exhaust note. But unfortunately I have to ride a trike due to my wife's health issues. If I could own W800 I would add a flyscreen and a luggage rack so I could mount a top box. It may look dorky woth a top box, but after owning a couple of HD TriGlides I'm spoiled. I think I will always have a top box instead of saddle bags.
Thank you for commenting! My wife rides a CanAm Ryker Rally Edition (3 wheeled, two in front, one in rear) and absolutely loves it. There's a kit for certain bikes that I always thought was the coolest thing: www.tiltingmotorworks.com/
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I taught my wife to ride a motorcycle many years ago, but after she has battled cancer eight times, had 12 surgeries in ten years, maxed out on chemo, radiation and cyber knife treatments she rides on back with me. She is currently on Immunotherapy treatments and will be every 28 days for the rest of her life. When the cancer went to her brain it caused seizures and that is when we went to a trike. Our thoughts were if she had a seizure on back of a two wheeled bike it might cause an accident injuring both of us and possibly others. On back of a trike I think I will be able to pull over and tend to her needs. I rode a Ryker 100 miles last Christmas when we bought one for our son. He had a crippling stroke and can no longer operate a hand clutch or foot shifter, so we thought the Ryker would be the perfect ride for him. When I rode the Ryker home it was at night, in the rain and 52 degrees (F). Not the ideal conditions, but I had a ball riding the Ryker. So much fun might even be illegal. A Ryker handles so much better than a Harley trike I've thought about a Ryker for us. But now I am looking at a CanAm Spyder F3 Limited in red and silver. I test drove the Spyder RT a couple of times in the past but didn't like the way they handled. They say the F3's handle much better.
@@genegoodwin8925 Oh my gosh... your family has had more than it's share of health challenges! I do admire the enduring spirit and tenacity to keep going through all the hardships! I've heard great things about the CanAm Spyder F3, and see quite a bit of them around. I've never ridden the Spyder, and I agree with you that the Ryker (I've only ridden the Rally edition) is a complete kick - feels like a 3 wheeled rocket sled. Super fun off tarmac as well. I'm curious which direction you go in for your next motorbike, and I wish you and your family every grace and positive wish for the future. Thank you for commenting!
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I'll probably go with the Can Am Spder F3 Limited in red with silver trim. I've had four Harleys and had trouble with two of them. I don't buy motorcycles to have trouble. I've never had any trouble with Honda, Suzuki, or Kawasakis. I've owned four Yamahas and had trouble with all four of them. I really don't know the quality of a Can Am, or how much trouble others have had with them, so I'll really be taking a chance on a Can Am, but I'm SICK of Harleys. We have to stay with three wheels due to the health issues.
A good way to get a good price on the kawi, is shop for the enfield (5k-6k) and bring it to the kawi dealership. I got mine for 8K, a good price for the area I’m in.
Big Blue Motorbike Dog - You are so RIGHT! I was a great fan of the Bonnevlle Triumph 650 in the 60 ties. Buit it had wrong sides - Hardcore Triumph drivers knows: Then cam Yam 650 twinn and Yam before the twin 750 I mean. There was trouble with theese bikes too. But I loved theese machines because of their looks and sound. But they had their failouts. Now I drive BMW r100/7 scrambler customised and a orig Triumph Thruxton 900 carb 2006 model and - A GREAT KAWA W 650 1999 model. The BMW is great to drive and handle and a beauty - BUT the Triumph is not for a short leg man like mee - and it is too heavy because of the motorplacearrangement! But it is mine. But now we come to the Kawasaki W 650 - THIS IS PURE AND CLEAN MOTORCYCLEDRIVING ALL DAY LONG - Low weight, great track from 1000 rpm - goes fine up to 120 and a beautifull relaxing sound. Great done KAWASAKI and thank you for the a better classic Triumph than Triump could have done!! Because they have not done it!!!!
@@martinrea8548 On the W800 my riding consists of in town riding, and two lane highway (50mph) for up to 4 hours per ride. It does great in both of these conditions. Do you solely drive now or do you currently have a motorbike?
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I ride a Honda CB500f. I go out at the weekend and ride country roads, or mini tours during holidays. It and the W800 are roughly powered the same which might be a reason for me to look at the Z650rs. Both Kawasakis are lovely looking bikes.
@@martinrea8548 The W800 is super focused on the retro crowd who wants to be trasnported back in time to their youth and it rides exactly like that.... if you are looking for performance and something you can do interstates with, I might even recommend the Z900RS, it has a lot of go! It is more of a lean forward stance, but can do higher speeds without sweating.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I have a 2020 and I swapped out the red side covers for black ones. Also, put an Omega Racer seat. The bike is a Japanese work of art. 🤙🏻
@@SteveBlancoMusicianWarrior I have ordered the comfort seat (05) in black with pressed diamond pattern. I should get it over the winter and have it ready and sorted by first ride 2023.
Thank you for commenting! I agree with your assessment - Vermont is a very small state overall. Less than 700,000 population in the entire state. Makes for easy traveling on some really great motorbike roads (just have to watch speeds as wild life on the road is not so rare)
As bikers we all have a little peccadilloes for our taste in bikes; mine are reliability, simplicity and over engineering. Not for love nor money can I find an after market fully enclosed chain case, one could find then in the 70's. I don't want radiators, water pumps, fuel pumps etc. I am willing to accept after market electronic ignition, and carry a spare set of points just incase. My ideal bike should be able to let me to change a set of piston rings at the side of the road, and to run the bike with a flat battery. I know this sounds like fantasy, but the bikes I have been riding over the last 20 years fit into this category. Those of you who are interested my bike is a 63 year old, BMW r60/2. major work simply consist of a set of new rings when tired. I can honestly say it has never let me down, magneto never needs attention and the timing has stayed true for years. The r60/2 is over engineered, it has a built up crank splash lubrication, and shaft drive, all ultra high tech for the 1950's. I get a heady 26 bhp out of it and with a heavy flywheel once spinning takes off pretty smartly, top speed is about 80mph can be the cruising speed if I wish but I prefer 60mph. The Reason I mention my peccadilloes is that I too considered the beautiful engineered w800, well the 650 actually, and it was a very close thing, but in the end I went for a 1970's Yamaha xs650 mainly because of the over engineering of the engine; But up crank, camshaft running in bearing instead of directly in the cylinder-head. But as I say these are my own personal biases. thanks for the video.
Thank you for commenting! I agree that personal biases weigh heavily in motorbike preferences, the way I see it; if a certain type of bike is what someone is happy with and they have it, more power to them!
I believe most motorbike manufacturers round (up or even down in some cases) their claimed CCs, Ducati tends to be bang on, Husqvarna now too... I think replacing / reprogramming / fooling the ECU (power commander type technology) does a bit to boost what power is generated from stock motors for those who would rather not take on a big bore kit. Great information tho. Do you have a link for the kit?
I would ask what kind of things are important for you on a long trip? and how long is a long trip - I can regularly go 5 hours on the W - but on back roads averaging 30mph that's only 150 miles. Whereas on my big touring bike I can go interstates for 6 to 8 hours, averaging 50 mph (including stops/breaks) that's 300 to 400 miles. That being said I have a friend who absolutely uses his W800 for touring, so it's all up to the individual.
😅I Own a 2019 W800 and have equipped it with a sidecar given i reached the ripe old age of seventy and want to continue riding I do love the bike except for a few aggravations, The main one is access to the battery. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to burry it deep in the frame so easy access is impossible Second is the cheap tires (maybe not price wise but rather durability wise) Costing over one thousand dollars to change the tires.
The W has a seriously dedicatd fan base, of course there are those who don't feel that connection, but those of us who do, big fans. If you haven't taken a test ride on one, I'd definitely recommend it!
We have similar tastes. I currently own a 2014 g650gs (my second one, the first being a 2008) and am drooling over a blue Kawasaki w800. Did you end up changing the seat on your g650gs? If so, what direction did you go? Thanks.
The GS is a fantastic bike, super easy to ride and does dirt / gravel roads with ease! I highly recommend going on test rides with the W800, you may even fall in love with it! Thank you for commenting!
@@Theophilus1968 I have a tourmaster seat on the G650GS, but am on the original stock seat on the R1200CLC. The CLC's seat is pretty comfortable for long hauls, and it's heated. My previous BMWs (k1200rs) had a Sargent seat, and the R100RTp had a Corbin seat.
I am cracking up at your review. You should be known as the Dick Cavett of Moto-Word ! Your take on your bike/bikes was very refreshing. Get those crashbars ! They've saved my legs, twice ! Really. The other issues are all the time, aren't they ? Seat, luggage space, wind protection, risers....
Thank you for commenting! Crash bars are being ordered! I think I'm going to go with Chrome, definitely fits the W800. I agree with you, for me (I'm 5'8") it's always a thing , bar risers and seat specifically, I am not sure of any stock seat that I was super happy with unless it was their 'comfort' seat.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog My 2022 W800 came with the Kawasaki chrome crash bars, chrome tail light bracket, chrome throttle body covers and chrome grab rail as it had already been fitted up for another customer who's deal fell through for some reason. Chrome is the way to go on the standard version of the W. That's what they would have done in the sixties. Mine also came with the regular seat and the reduced height seat. I like that the reduced height seat does not say Kawasaki on the back but the regular seat is more comfortable for me as it does not give me as much knee flex. (old Knees)
@@bigbluemotorbikedog Yes. I had a sensitive tail bone for a little while last year and it didn't like being on to W for too long. We'll see how it goes this year now that the tail bone seems to have settled down.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog yep. Im hearin ya! Lots of things on youtube showing the removal of the baffles. I was wondering if it does any harm in relation to making the engine run lean, or whether the fuel injection adjusts for it? Seems to sound nice, but once youve cut them out, you cant put them back. Haha.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog Saw ours brand new at a show in 2015 here in UK. Gorgeous. IT bought us on the spot we did not buy it, it was so good looking. Kept it inside until 2016 and riding weather came. Bought 4 year extended warranty. Loved everything when riding (and still do) except very tame exhaust noise. Researched removing baffles ad nauseam mainly on UA-cam but also motorcycle press. Decided that when warranty expired baffles were coming out. Watched eBay for 3 years until I found and bought another complete exhaust system with under 2000 miles to have ready in case it all went horribly wrong. Baffles out in less than 5 minutes per side. Bike has now done 9200 miles without them. No ill effects apparent and EM system seems to have compensated well. Two sets of plugs changed and checked. Lovely light straw colour on both. Spare exhaust system still in storage. Sounds wonderful with slight popping and burble on the overrun. Louder all round but nowhere near hooligan levels or anti social, but much better than original sewing machine sound and volume. It now sounds like a British twin from the 60’s or 70’s.
I'm not sure how to address the fear of other motorists vehicles, but I've always found that taking a safety course helps, if it's your first time, and the intro/beginner course, they may even provide the bikes and some safety gear.
I think you have to ride more defensively as you would in a car just because when we ride we are so much more exposed, a good reason to have great safety gear. But, as someone once said, "You have to live", meaning we cant/shouldnt live in a cave and miss the experience of some fun and happiness doing what we enjoy. Living itself is a risk and it comes down to how much risk our spirits and the life in us can endure.
When riding a motorcycle you become a more attentive, observant driver and you develop the ability to anticipate situations in advance or you won't be riding long. These enhanced abilities and techniques make you a better car driver as well. Yes, motorcycles are inherently riskier to drive than a car but only you can ride in a manner that minimizes those risks. Other drivers are not accustomed to seeing motorcycles in traffic so their unconscious minds don't see you or acknowledge your existence. Be alert , visible and don't spend more time than necessary in other drivers blind spots. Go for a good training course.
I *think* its the homage to the W1 / Maguro, re-creating the sensation of riding the bike. Another good Kawasaki retro with more horsepower is the Z900RS.
Thank you for commenting, any suggestions for topics to include in a following review? Are you looking for 0-60 times? 60-stop distance meaurements, specs on bike, that type of thing?
@@robmarsh2217 I do have the crash bars in Chrome, just need to get them installed and will put out a video showing and explaining my reasoning for the changes I've made, and the changes that are planned. Thank you for commenting!
I would ask what kind of things are important for you on a long trip? and how long is a long trip - I can regularly go 5 hours on the W - but on back roads averaging 30mph that's only 150 miles. Whereas on my big touring bike I can go interstates for 6 to 8 hours, averaging 50 mph (including stops/breaks) that's 300 to 400 miles. That being said I have a friend who absolutely uses his W800 for touring, so it's all up to the individual.
One of the reasons the w800 is relatively more expensive to other comparable bikes is the fact it is still manufactured in Japan.
Excellent point! Thank you for commenting!
Got my w800 3 weeks ago. 2nd Kawasaki, and couldn’t be happier.
Except the ground clearance. Could use half an inch, coming up steep city ramps can be annoying.
Also, though the tires are PRETTY. I do not like the grip.
True, where I live it costs as much if not more than a Triumph Street Twin. I once sat on one and took a good look up close. the engine is a beauty to look at IMO and it really feels well built and felt truly Made In Japan, as it was assembled with pride. If I got the money to buy a new one I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.
So is the Z650rs and it is cheaper and has more HP
Very relaxing and thoughtful video , the 'Itchy-Boots' comment makes total-sense . To add a little-different perspective to the 'W'-bikes (I have a low-mileage w650 ) , they were originally 'Only' intended for the Japanese domestic-market . The retro-bike scene in Japan is very-active with incredible-machines of all-years from around The World , mainly British , American and their own famous models . The sky-rocketing-prices of old bikes , led to the creation of the W650 which emulated a 60's Bonneville with a 40's Manx-Norton bevel-drive camshaft .The vibration some people complain-about , was intentional to make it more 'authentic' ,as the first proto-type-engines were considered 'too-smooth' . Kawasaki Dealerships asked for the w650 World-Wide and after 2-years Kawasaki agreed, releasing-them to the rest of the World . They withdrew the w650 from the US when Triumph entered the Modern-Retro-Market , as they believed it wouldn't compete l with the larger-capacity-twin ,( which it was never designed to do) Kawasaki didn't want any negative-impact on their 'Brand' in their 'Largest-Market' . It was only pressure from US-Distributors that resulted in W800's going to the US , otherwise they-too were not going to be offered there either . While the reviewers umm and aarr over the merits and failings of the 'W' , comparing them to all-manner of other 'offerings' , they remain the only 'True' 360-degree, long-stroke upright-twin in the modern-market . They Do evoke memories of the bikes I grew-up with and are such simple and elegant-machines to own, ride and service . Owners may tire of people commenting on 'The great restoration' , I reply; 'Thanks' . I am now nearly 70 , so it must be time to buy another pre-loved-bargain ! Stay-Upright and smiling . Dave NZ
Thank you so much for the comment and information! I love learning new things!
First, I am biased. I own the 2020 W800 cafe. I did put the black storage rack on and a tail bag. Great addition. Never dropped a bike other then being tired in a garage twice, BMW R1150RT, both in the evening after a long day aforgot to put down the sidestand. Never put on engine guards. Also don't do trail riding in the environment that I have lived in the last 22 years of riding. Your video voice reminds me of being a kid watching educational videos. Makes me feel good. I subscribed, as you are assisting me to try the UA-cam as a creator to expand my education in a hobby that I love. Keep up the great work. I also agree on the right tool for the job. Also own a Concours 14 , 2021 that I use for my 3 hours plus in the saddle. Keep up the great work. I Don sell my stuff, so I buy new and keep it for as long as it wants to run. 2000 Dodge Dakota with 209k miles on it. But she doesn't want to run right now, so I am dependent on my two bikes. I did get my cafe at a very discounted rate. Had to travel, but worth the extra 300 dollars as I got it below 7k 💸
Thank you for commenting! I had an 84' BMW R100RTp that I had 330,000 miles on before I gifted her to a friend. The boxer motor is definitely a workhorse! The dirt/trail riding her is new to me, just started doing that in the last four years, otherwise I was tarmac / paved road only. (with very few exceptions). I encourage you to try the creator thing. I've been doing UA-cam in one form or another for 6 years now, I've never hit "viral" status, more of a hobby for me to share my passions. This channel is the only one that I've done that has seen any real traction, but it's rewarding and exciting either way. Nice to hear from so many others that believe in repairing and keeping vehicles instead of just trading them out every few years. You got a fantastic deal on your W800, I hope you really enjoy it!
I have a 2020 W800Cafe. 2500 miles of flawless sophistication. Beautiful bike. Have a KTM RC390 for when I want to go fast, but the W is a keeper!
@@hatchetjack1031 thank you for commenting!
I have the 2019 “Cafe”. The only thing I did to it was add a center stand. Great bike, the sensory experience while riding it gives me that “WW2 fighter plane” vibe I used to get from my old A65.
I get your meaning! Thank you for commenting! I absolutely *love* the feeling of riding the W... sliding through space and time... like flying just a few feet off the ground.
Where did you score a centre stand from ? I have the 2019 street version and been looking for 1
Hi Frank, I ordered it from the dealer, the stock one that comes on the standard bike. There are some fitment issues mounting it on the Cafe, I chopped off the passenger boot guard on the left side so the stand could retract all the way. You might not have that issue with thhe Street, I dont know. I like the Street version, if it had been available in the US, Id have bought it. Cheers!
The W800 is a gorgeous looking bike....
I completely agree! Thank you for commenting!
I bought the cafe version of the w800 ( 2019) and other than replacing the clubman handle bars this is my last new bike also. . I too love the feeling of riding in 1970 and it is a fantastic motorcycle. Gotta love the bevel drive look on the engine. I will replace the tires when they are worn with something stickier also. Good Luck and great choice for your last NEW bike.
Thank you so much for your thoughts and for commenting on the video! How do you like the seat on the cafe?
The cafe seat is comfortable for my 70 year old ass, but I love the look of the seat on the standard street model like yours.@@bigbluemotorbikedog
what habdle bar did you replace it with? Would love to see the cafe model with a different handle bar..
@@fatesteyneit2990 I used the kawasaki regular version street model bars , insatalled by the dealership.
I ride an early W800 (2011) that has a few simple mods, I've had it for over 3 years now and it's still going strong. I love this thing, I can't see myself getting rid of it anytime soon.
I'm so glad to read this! Thank you for commenting! Which mods have you done to it?
Not much really, I have:
- high rise handlebars (instead of fitting risers)
- shorter fenders front and rear
- aftermarket turn signals and taillight
- the seat is re-upholstered with the white piping to make it look like a later Special Edition (2016 onwards)
- i also bought a second seat, that I like to fit every now and then to change the look.
I had an attempt at posting videos on youtube, but I guess I did not feel like the production quality or my ideas where worthy of continuing. Anyway, if you're curious you should be able to see the handle bars there. I never filmed the rest of the bike. :)
Later edit: there is also a tank cover that I like to fit on it from time to time. I like it because it comes with fittings for a tank bag, really handy on longer rides.
Later later edit: i forgot about the steel braided brake line on the front - worth every penny, really changes the braking feel (older models come with drum brakes at the back, so nothing to do there).
@@motorcyclebutslow5967 The steel braided lines do make a big difference, I have those on my 2003 BMW R1200CLC, worth every penny, I agree! I'll check out your video(s)!
Not much to see unfortunately, but thanks. :)
@@motorcyclebutslow5967 The format you use (video + music) I had a similar channel here:
ua-cam.com/channels/ZcaIppZfZfrLJHBw1AY9bQ.html
I mean it's still my channel but I don't add to it anymore, LOTS of videos over many years. I experimented with AI narration, but that didn't work out too well either. My wife does a UA-cam channel that's far more popular, so I took her advice and re-launched where I do the narration, has worked out for many more views.
Nothing can beat the W800 for one simple reason... the engine is air cooled! none of the other competitors are!
My ride is a Moto Guzzi V11 Le Mans 2004, and I am yet to find anything that can procure the same level of thrill.
Currently through my 26th stop of the Motorcycle Grand Tour of Texas.
I have been considering the purchase of a second bike, as the Guzzi is sometimes capricious with the details.
If you want to be mesmerized with tires, try the Michelin Road Classic. You will be really surprised how good they are. Not only stylish and fitting well with the spirit of the bike, but riding on the gravel will be like a walk in the park!
Thank you for the comment!! I will definitely check out the Road Classic tires!
Did you test ride the moto guzzi v7 850cc, its just a perfect mid-range air cooled modern classic
@@tekircelebi I did not, I live rural and I don't have a Moto Guzzi dealership within 140 miles.
I went with Bridgestone Battlax bt46 as I couldn't find the Michelin road classic's in stock anywhere and didn't want to wait any longer. So far so good, much better than the Dunlop tires. The Dunlops always felt sketchy to me and I never really trusted them.
@@derangeddwayne5532 - Fortnine has a video on 'brand name' tires that manufacturers use that may not be up to standards for non-manufacturer specific tires from the same vendor (Pirelli was featured I think) - The Dunlops that come with it, get a bit janky at interstate speeds ( > 70mph) IMHO. They seem perfectly adequate for low (city) speeds (25-35 mph) but I do really appreciate the feedback on the BT46 Bridgestones. There are a ton of 'twisties' through the woods on 50mph roads. Would love a tire that I can be completely confident making swerves or other adjustments if need be.
I did my first oil change on my 2022 w800. So far I have added the factory grab rail and chrome throttle body covers. Like you said the seat is nice looking but for me uncomfortable after about 45 minutes. I'm 6 foot. And find that I have to scoot back to have enough room and I end up sitting on hardest part of the seat. I want to install w800 street handlebars which should help. In Japan these bikes are very popular and they have tons of aftermarket parts. Webike Japan is a great place to buy parts for the new w800.
Thank you so much for commenting! I super appreciate the recommendation for webike! I will check it out!
Also own the W800 albeit a Cafe model. I do believe it is the only current engine with a bevel drive camshaft and I do believe the only classic style retro with a parallel twin (360 degree crank) vs an inline twin.
Thank you for commenting! I do believe Triumph uses a 270 degree on their parallel twins. I love the bevel drive, such a cool feature of this motor!
The new Triumph (water cooled) are in fact not Parallel twins. A Parallel twin has a 360 degree crank, just like a vertical twin has a 180 degree one. The term straight twin or inline would describe the twins from Triumph and Royal Enfield which both have 270. Which to add confusion is a cross plane crank... They incorrectly use the term Parallel as marketing.
@@andrewhannam. Thank you for the clarification! Now I know!
@@andrewhannam. Surely the term "parallel twin" refers to the cylinder configuration, to differentiate them from v-twins and horizontally opposed twins, so can equally be applied to engines with various crankshaft designs, as long as the cylinder bores are parallel.
@@rickconstant6106 the engine terms of cylinder attachment is based on piston travel and crank angles. 360 degree parallel twins have the piston in the same parallel position... Like a 180 degree vertical twin has the pistons position vertical from each other (one up at TDC, one down BDC).. inline twin or straight twin is the relative position of a Cross plane 270 degree since one piston is between it's stroke when the other has completed it. I could go on about primary, secondary forces, rotating couple and pumping loses between them.... The fact is that we have forgotten where these names have come from and everything is marketing...
I'm from Sherbrooke, Quebec.... watching your video I thought the scenery look familiar.... I enjoy Vermont, it's so beautiful and people are very nice 😊
I love Quebec, such a beautiful landscape! I am at a disadvantage as I do not speak French, but when I have been to Sherbrooke people were very forgiving of my lack of language skills. Learning French is definitely on my to do list so I'm not such an 'ugly American' when I travel through Quebec. In the summer, we do see a *lot* of license plates from Canada, even as far away as Ontario or Alberta.
If it had tubeless tires I would have a W800. But considering the hell I've been through over a few decades because of tube type tires, I won't go anywhere near a bike with tube type tires. This is 2023, and there is no reason why a bike needs to have tube type tires. Cars went to tubeless tires in the late '40s/early '50s. You could get motorcycles with tubeless tires in the '70s. It just seems insane that we still have these nightmare tires in 2023. I have almost been killed by them, I have been stranded dozens of times by them, I have spent thousands of $$$ on towing bills, motels, and dealer charges for replacing tubes after having the bike towed there. I have missed many days of work. On the other hand, I have a Kawasaki Vulcan 750 with tubeless tires that I have put 128,000 miles on (so far) without a single flat tire, and it has never been on a tow truck. It's decades past time for tube type tires on motorcycles to die.
I suppose one could switch out the rims for a tubeless setup... If you are in the USA I do recommend joining the AMA (American Motorcyclist Association) - part of membership is roadside assistance. Thank you for commenting!
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I have roadside assistance, but it has a 50 mile towing limit, which means I wouldn't ride a bike with tube type tires more than 50 miles from home.
@@geraldscott4302 Yeah 50 miles isn't much is it? I'm not sure what the AMA offers. There are (or I have seen) spoked tubeless rims, but the W definitely uses tubed tires.
Another thoughtful and insightful video on the W800. A few observations, if I may. The modern retro classic market is dominated by RE and Triumph and for them, especially RE, Retro styled bikes are a major source of sales. For Kawasaki Retro seems to be a minor part of their output with very little effort put into marketing and no attempt to cut costs to compete with the RE 650s. Dealers must stock the W reluctantly, it being such a slow seller. And when did you last hear anyone admit to paying full price for one? For anyone who cannot stretch to buying new, albeit discounted, bear in mind that the bike has only undergone minimal upgrades since it was released in 2011, (yes I understand North America did not get it till 2019). From what I can see, many were bought new by older, fastidious owners and only ridden now and again. So if you find the right bike, buying a used W could save you $$$$. Here in Australia I bought a 2015 Black Edition with 2400 klms, (1500 miles) on the clock. For safety I have replaced the nine years old tyres. I have registered and insured the bike for 12 months. Total cost to me is less than half the price of a new one for a bike that looks like new. Stay safe.
I'm not entirely sure why Kawasaki doesn't advertise the W series more, in the states I absolutely advise people buy either used, or new old stock (previous years that hadn't been sold at the dealer) because deals are to be had! It's such a pleasure to ride, I think in part it's that the specs just don't do the bike justice.
Keep the shiny side up!
Got my w800 3 weeks ago. 2nd Kawasaki, and couldn’t be happier.
Except the ground clearance. Could use half an inch, coming up steep city ramps can be annoying.
Also, though the tires are PRETTY. I do not like the grip.
Could not find a bike that persisted the vintage look so precisely.
The air cooling is so pretty ❤️
How many miles do you have on your W now? What year is yours?
Mine is the 2020 W800 (no cafe, no street) - I did put risers on to put the bars where I wanted them (I'm 5'8" so it may be a short guy issue)... tail bag (so I can bring first aid kid, tire kit, tools etc.), the fly screen, visor, and have crash bars on the way.
I just don't understand why this bike didn't do well in the sales category. Visually, it's the tops!!
I added the factory rear luggage rack and attached a small Viking tail bag to it. I hadn't heard of the omega flyscreen, going to check into that for sure.
I've added a tail bag to mine also (just on the passenger bit of the seat).
Omega Racer:
www.omegaracer.com/cat_782642-kawasaki-w650-w800-parts/
I have crash bars on order, will do a video once they come in and I have them mounted and ready to go.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog Thanks for the link! 👍👍
Glad you're enjoying it. Sounds great.
I love it! Thank you for commenting!
My fave was also a parallel twin (a 1974 TS or TX 500) I ride a 2007 C50 Suzuki now. I had 2 inline 4`s, 1980 GS550 and 1991 Nighthawk 750. These are midsize by today`s standards, but good enough for me.
I'm in my 50s.... and in my head... a small bike is up to 350cc... medsize are between 400 and 650cc, and bike bikes are 700cc and over... I realize that big bikes now are the Rocket III at 2.3 liters, and whatever mondo v-twins HD, Indian, Honda are cranking out, let's not forget Beemers now having an 1800cc boxer... As my beard as gone 'chrome' and my head has gone bald, I realize that for me, it's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast at 50mph than a fast bike slow at 50mph. Just my .02
I love the inline fours.
The fly screen from Omega-Racer looks fantastic!
Thank you for commenting! I really like it too!
I think the W800 is the prettiest motorcycle on the road.It is the closest thing to a BSA twin. I love the 360 degree crankshaft and the exhaust note. But unfortunately I have to ride a trike due to my wife's health issues. If I could own W800 I would add a flyscreen and a luggage rack so I could mount a top box. It may look dorky woth a top box, but after owning a couple of HD TriGlides I'm spoiled. I think I will always have a top box instead of saddle bags.
Thank you for commenting! My wife rides a CanAm Ryker Rally Edition (3 wheeled, two in front, one in rear) and absolutely loves it. There's a kit for certain bikes that I always thought was the coolest thing: www.tiltingmotorworks.com/
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I taught my wife to ride a motorcycle many years ago, but after she has battled cancer eight times, had 12 surgeries in ten years, maxed out on chemo, radiation and cyber knife treatments she rides on back with me. She is currently on Immunotherapy treatments and will be every 28 days for the rest of her life. When the cancer went to her brain it caused seizures and that is when we went to a trike. Our thoughts were if she had a seizure on back of a two wheeled bike it might cause an accident injuring both of us and possibly others. On back of a trike I think I will be able to pull over and tend to her needs.
I rode a Ryker 100 miles last Christmas when we bought one for our son. He had a crippling stroke and can no longer operate a hand clutch or foot shifter, so we thought the Ryker would be the perfect ride for him. When I rode the Ryker home it was at night, in the rain and 52 degrees (F). Not the ideal conditions, but I had a ball riding the Ryker. So much fun might even be illegal. A Ryker handles so much better than a Harley trike I've thought about a Ryker for us. But now I am looking at a CanAm Spyder F3 Limited in red and silver. I test drove the Spyder RT a couple of times in the past but didn't like the way they handled. They say the F3's handle much better.
@@genegoodwin8925 Oh my gosh... your family has had more than it's share of health challenges! I do admire the enduring spirit and tenacity to keep going through all the hardships! I've heard great things about the CanAm Spyder F3, and see quite a bit of them around. I've never ridden the Spyder, and I agree with you that the Ryker (I've only ridden the Rally edition) is a complete kick - feels like a 3 wheeled rocket sled. Super fun off tarmac as well.
I'm curious which direction you go in for your next motorbike, and I wish you and your family every grace and positive wish for the future.
Thank you for commenting!
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I'll probably go with the Can Am Spder F3 Limited in red with silver trim. I've had four Harleys and had trouble with two of them. I don't buy motorcycles to have trouble. I've never had any trouble with Honda, Suzuki, or Kawasakis. I've owned four Yamahas and had trouble with all four of them.
I really don't know the quality of a Can Am, or how much trouble others have had with them, so I'll really be taking a chance on a Can Am, but I'm SICK of Harleys. We have to stay with three wheels due to the health issues.
@@genegoodwin8925 I'm curious on what your experience will be, please keep me in the loop!
A good way to get a good price on the kawi, is shop for the enfield (5k-6k) and bring it to the kawi dealership.
I got mine for 8K, a good price for the area I’m in.
Great advice!
Great review. Thank you for posting!
Thank you for the comment!
Big Blue Motorbike Dog - You are so RIGHT! I was a great fan of the Bonnevlle Triumph 650 in the 60 ties. Buit it had wrong sides - Hardcore Triumph drivers knows: Then cam Yam 650 twinn and Yam before the twin 750 I mean. There was trouble with theese bikes too. But I loved theese machines because of their looks and sound. But they had their failouts. Now I drive BMW r100/7 scrambler customised and a orig Triumph Thruxton 900 carb 2006 model and - A GREAT KAWA W 650 1999 model. The BMW is great to drive and handle and a beauty - BUT the Triumph is not for a short leg man like mee - and it is too heavy because of the motorplacearrangement! But it is mine. But now we come to the Kawasaki W 650 - THIS IS PURE AND CLEAN MOTORCYCLEDRIVING ALL DAY LONG - Low weight, great track from 1000 rpm - goes fine up to 120 and a beautifull relaxing sound. Great done KAWASAKI and thank you for the a better classic Triumph than Triump could have done!! Because they have not done it!!!!
I appreciate all kinds of Motorbikes too, and love the Kawasaki W series! Thank you so much for commenting!
Currently justifying the Meguro K3 to myself (Rebadged w800). It is perfect for my style of riding.
What made the final decision for me was taking it for a test ride! Thank you for commenting!
What, may I ask, is your style of riding? I'm seriously looking at this bike as my sole all purpose bike.
@@martinrea8548 On the W800 my riding consists of in town riding, and two lane highway (50mph) for up to 4 hours per ride. It does great in both of these conditions.
Do you solely drive now or do you currently have a motorbike?
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I ride a Honda CB500f. I go out at the weekend and ride country roads, or mini tours during holidays. It and the W800 are roughly powered the same which might be a reason for me to look at the Z650rs. Both Kawasakis are lovely looking bikes.
@@martinrea8548 The W800 is super focused on the retro crowd who wants to be trasnported back in time to their youth and it rides exactly like that.... if you are looking for performance and something you can do interstates with, I might even recommend the Z900RS, it has a lot of go! It is more of a lean forward stance, but can do higher speeds without sweating.
Love my W800 so much! Enjoyed your video. Thanks.
Thank you so much for commenting! Which year of the W800 do you have?
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I have a 2020 and I swapped out the red side covers for black ones. Also, put an Omega Racer seat. The bike is a Japanese work of art. 🤙🏻
@@SteveBlancoMusicianWarrior I've been looking at the Comfort Seat from Omega Racer, which seat did you pick?
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I went with the flat bench in black.
@@SteveBlancoMusicianWarrior I have ordered the comfort seat (05) in black with pressed diamond pattern. I should get it over the winter and have it ready and sorted by first ride 2023.
Excellent video, by the way. Not many cars up in Vermont, it seems.
Thank you for commenting! I agree with your assessment - Vermont is a very small state overall. Less than 700,000 population in the entire state. Makes for easy traveling on some really great motorbike roads (just have to watch speeds as wild life on the road is not so rare)
As bikers we all have a little peccadilloes for our taste in bikes; mine are reliability, simplicity and over engineering.
Not for love nor money can I find an after market fully enclosed chain case, one could find then in the 70's. I don't want radiators, water pumps, fuel pumps etc. I am willing to accept after market electronic ignition, and carry a spare set of points just incase. My ideal bike should be able to let me to change a set of piston rings at the side of the road, and to run the bike with a flat battery. I know this sounds like fantasy, but the bikes I have been riding over the last 20 years fit into this category. Those of you who are interested my bike is a 63 year old, BMW r60/2. major work simply consist of a set of new rings when tired. I can honestly say it has never let me down, magneto never needs attention and the timing has stayed true for years. The r60/2 is over engineered, it has a built up crank splash lubrication, and shaft drive, all ultra high tech for the 1950's. I get a heady 26 bhp out of it and with a heavy flywheel once spinning takes off pretty smartly, top speed is about 80mph can be the cruising speed if I wish but I prefer 60mph.
The Reason I mention my peccadilloes is that I too considered the beautiful engineered w800, well the 650 actually, and it was a very close thing, but in the end I went for a 1970's Yamaha xs650 mainly because of the over engineering of the engine; But up crank, camshaft running in bearing instead of directly in the cylinder-head. But as I say these are my own personal biases. thanks for the video.
Thank you for commenting! I agree that personal biases weigh heavily in motorbike preferences, the way I see it; if a certain type of bike is what someone is happy with and they have it, more power to them!
Only 773cc actually, but still larger than a T140 from the 1970's. You can buy a big bore kit for these though which pushes them out to 840cc.
I believe most motorbike manufacturers round (up or even down in some cases) their claimed CCs, Ducati tends to be bang on, Husqvarna now too... I think replacing / reprogramming / fooling the ECU (power commander type technology) does a bit to boost what power is generated from stock motors for those who would rather not take on a big bore kit. Great information tho. Do you have a link for the kit?
@@bigbluemotorbikedog Yeah I'd like info on the big bore kit
Love to have one that's a 1200 and a bobber setup.
I think the Triumph bobber is your closest match, no bevel cam drive, but is a 1200...
Nice video man!
What are service periods if you buy it new?? How often???
maintenanceschedule.com/kawasaki-w800-maintenance-schedule/
I like it..beautiful bike.
Thank you for commenting!
Is it good for long drive trip ? And thx for the video
I would ask what kind of things are important for you on a long trip? and how long is a long trip - I can regularly go 5 hours on the W - but on back roads averaging 30mph that's only 150 miles. Whereas on my big touring bike I can go interstates for 6 to 8 hours, averaging 50 mph (including stops/breaks) that's 300 to 400 miles.
That being said I have a friend who absolutely uses his W800 for touring, so it's all up to the individual.
😅I Own a 2019 W800 and have equipped it with a sidecar given i reached the ripe old age of seventy and want to continue riding I do love the bike except for a few aggravations, The main one is access to the battery. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to burry it deep in the frame so easy access is impossible Second is the cheap tires (maybe not price wise but rather durability wise) Costing over one thousand dollars to change the tires.
I would love to see a W800 with a sidecar! I agree that the tires from factory do need to be replaced. Thank you for commenting!
@@bigbluemotorbikedog well i posted a video of it. Your free to look it up.
Thousand dollars is a total scam dude, get smart quickly !
I need to look closer at one of these. z650RS is losing my interest
The W has a seriously dedicatd fan base, of course there are those who don't feel that connection, but those of us who do, big fans. If you haven't taken a test ride on one, I'd definitely recommend it!
We have similar tastes. I currently own a 2014 g650gs (my second one, the first being a 2008) and am drooling over a blue Kawasaki w800.
Did you end up changing the seat on your g650gs? If so, what direction did you go? Thanks.
The GS is a fantastic bike, super easy to ride and does dirt / gravel roads with ease! I highly recommend going on test rides with the W800, you may even fall in love with it!
Thank you for commenting!
@@bigbluemotorbikedog are you still rocking the stock seat on your bmw? Thanks.
@@Theophilus1968 I have a tourmaster seat on the G650GS, but am on the original stock seat on the R1200CLC. The CLC's seat is pretty comfortable for long hauls, and it's heated. My previous BMWs (k1200rs) had a Sargent seat, and the R100RTp had a Corbin seat.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog I just bought a Rich’s seat. 🤞🏻
@@Theophilus1968 Do you have a link for Rich's?
I am cracking up at your review. You should be known as the Dick Cavett of Moto-Word ! Your take on your bike/bikes was very refreshing. Get those crashbars ! They've saved my legs, twice ! Really. The other issues are all the time, aren't they ? Seat, luggage space, wind protection, risers....
Thank you for commenting! Crash bars are being ordered! I think I'm going to go with Chrome, definitely fits the W800. I agree with you, for me (I'm 5'8") it's always a thing , bar risers and seat specifically, I am not sure of any stock seat that I was super happy with unless it was their 'comfort' seat.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog My 2022 W800 came with the Kawasaki chrome crash bars, chrome tail light bracket, chrome throttle body covers and chrome grab rail as it had already been fitted up for another customer who's deal fell through for some reason. Chrome is the way to go on the standard version of the W. That's what they would have done in the sixties. Mine also came with the regular seat and the reduced height seat. I like that the reduced height seat does not say Kawasaki on the back but the regular seat is more comfortable for me as it does not give me as much knee flex. (old Knees)
@@Bob-xc2us I hear you on old knees.... I went with the Omega Racer comfort seat, old tail bone injury didn't like the stock Kawi seat.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog Yes. I had a sensitive tail bone for a little while last year and it didn't like being on to W for too long. We'll see how it goes this year now that the tail bone seems to have settled down.
Nice post. Do you intend to drill the mufflers with the 32mm holesaw? Sounds like you wont be doing that!
I do not plan to modify the mufflers at all. I really enjoy the sound of the bike from factory! Does seem quite popular tho to remove the baffles.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog yep. Im hearin ya! Lots of things on youtube showing the removal of the baffles. I was wondering if it does any harm in relation to making the engine run lean, or whether the fuel injection adjusts for it? Seems to sound nice, but once youve cut them out, you cant put them back. Haha.
@@stuartstibbs2069 my guess is that fuel injection remaps pretty well.... but not an authority on the subject.
@@bigbluemotorbikedog Saw ours brand new at a show in 2015 here in UK. Gorgeous. IT bought us on the spot we did not buy it, it was so good looking. Kept it inside until 2016 and riding weather came. Bought 4 year extended warranty. Loved everything when riding (and still do) except very tame exhaust noise. Researched removing baffles ad nauseam mainly on UA-cam but also motorcycle press. Decided that when warranty expired baffles were coming out. Watched eBay for 3 years until I found and bought another complete exhaust system with under 2000 miles to have ready in case it all went horribly wrong. Baffles out in less than 5 minutes per side. Bike has now done 9200 miles without them. No ill effects apparent and EM system seems to have compensated well. Two sets of plugs changed and checked. Lovely light straw colour on both. Spare exhaust system still in storage. Sounds wonderful with slight popping and burble on the overrun. Louder all round but nowhere near hooligan levels or anti social, but much better than original sewing machine sound and volume. It now sounds like a British twin from the 60’s or 70’s.
@@VillageBobby thank for all the information! Fantastic comment!
If I weren't so damned scared of cars, trucks, and other automo9biles, I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat. This is the bike I like best.
I'm not sure how to address the fear of other motorists vehicles, but I've always found that taking a safety course helps, if it's your first time, and the intro/beginner course, they may even provide the bikes and some safety gear.
I think you have to ride more defensively as you would in a car just because when we ride we are so much more exposed, a good reason to have great safety gear. But, as someone once said, "You have to live", meaning we cant/shouldnt live in a cave and miss the experience of some fun and happiness doing what we enjoy. Living itself is a risk and it comes down to how much risk our spirits and the life in us can endure.
When riding a motorcycle you become a more attentive, observant driver and you develop the ability to anticipate situations in advance or you won't be riding long. These enhanced abilities and techniques make you a better car driver as well. Yes, motorcycles are inherently riskier to drive than a car but only you can ride in a manner that minimizes those risks. Other drivers are not accustomed to seeing motorcycles in traffic so their unconscious minds don't see you or acknowledge your existence. Be alert , visible and don't spend more time than necessary in other drivers blind spots.
Go for a good training course.
Love the look of them but why don't they have more horse power
I *think* its the homage to the W1 / Maguro, re-creating the sensation of riding the bike. Another good Kawasaki retro with more horsepower is the Z900RS.
P.S. thank you for commenting!
Air cooled. The low power output is the exact reason that liquid cooled engines now dominate.
"Dear....may I please have permission to buy a motorcycle?" hahaha Sad.
That's pretty dang funny, and you're right - I made financial decisions with my wife because we were a team. good one tho.
Oh gosh
Thank you for commenting!
do you seriously just ride around a 45 mph on a 800 kwaker and you call that a review, may as well be on a 125 not impressed
Thank you for commenting, any suggestions for topics to include in a following review? Are you looking for 0-60 times? 60-stop distance meaurements, specs on bike, that type of thing?
Chrome! The blacked out look is really getting old and boring .
Thank you for commenting! I prefer chrome as well!
100% chrome is classic.
@@robmarsh2217 I do have the crash bars in Chrome, just need to get them installed and will put out a video showing and explaining my reasoning for the changes I've made, and the changes that are planned. Thank you for commenting!
Is it good for long drive trip ? And thx for the video
I would ask what kind of things are important for you on a long trip? and how long is a long trip - I can regularly go 5 hours on the W - but on back roads averaging 30mph that's only 150 miles. Whereas on my big touring bike I can go interstates for 6 to 8 hours, averaging 50 mph (including stops/breaks) that's 300 to 400 miles.
That being said I have a friend who absolutely uses his W800 for touring, so it's all up to the individual.