FB-22 | Raptor Stealth Bomber
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Many years ago, the US Military had plans for a F-22 upgrade. This would have been a strike fighter, with an emphasis on bombing. Details surrounding the project remain a mystery, with some suggesting that the project was never really cancelled, but rather postponed for possible future implementation - but this is doubtful.
The project has, by and large, been forgotten. The only discussions online reference video games such as Ace Combat, where enthusiasts have visualised designs. Today, we look at the actual project, and what could have been an upgraded F-22 multirole aircraft.
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With all the AI and UAV buzz going on, someone is probably developing a concept for an unmanned version of such a plane right now.
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The Iranians already shot down the USA's stealth strike drone.
F 35 has a literal drone ai controlled version
something like the X-47b
@@jamesrowlands8971 The U.S. does not have a stealth strike drone.
With the B-21 Raider coming out over the next few years and that it can fly with drone wing man it probably won't come to fruition. As well they have the NGAD in the works. Great video though. I had no idea this was a concept in consideration.
That will be in aunman drome
The star of Ace Combat series.
This is pretty cool review, will you do it on F-15SE Silent Eagle too?
It looks similar to the concept images that I have seen for the NGAD.
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Instead we got the B-21.
"...Has inexplicably fallen off the drawing board..." Too cost effective it would seem, profit margins aren't high enough.
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I really like the concept of the FB-22. I really dislike the idea that the US believes we need a new stealth bomber like the B-21. Too many billions of dollars have already been spent on aircraft that, as it turns out, we didn't need after all. When the F-22 was being developed, it was already years behind the Russians as far as supermanuverability goes. They were still testing the F-22 when the Russians were already demonstrating supermanuverability with the SU-37 TERMINATOR. So then why did we go forth with production on the F-22?? Then, we didn't even use it for anything substantial. Wasted money and time.
LOCKHEED MARTIN is an absolute FAILURE when it comes to producing what they promised, and on time & budget. LOCKHEED MARTIN needs to learn to produce on time and on budget like NORTHROP GRUMMAN!
Thats why most high value planes in the USAF are Lockheed
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NGAD actually an upgraded FB-22???
That'd be in line with the B-21 being a matured/modernised design of the B-2. A good way to bring new aircraft into production.
It does not make much sense to make a small stealth bomber because VHF band radar (the type used in the S-400, S-500, and Chinese Type 346B radars) can see small stealth aircraft like the F-22 and ranges of about 150 nautical miles. To combat this, the airframe has to be much larger than an F-22 or F-35, and that is where the B21 comes it. The B-21 is much less visible to VHF Band radar and could get much closer before being detected, making an intercept difficult. Also, while these radars do not have the resolution to lock on with a more conventional Surface to air missile, the resolution of the VHF band radars is sufficient to get a tactical nuclear missile close enough to destroy or incapacitate an F-35 or F-22. Many commentators live in a world where they think that the only thing that these stealth aircraft have to deal with is other aircraft and the only thing they typically deal with are aircraft of third tier powers. A war with China or Russia will likely be a war that sees the use of tactical nuclear weapons, and the VHF radars have good enough resolution to get a 10 kiloton warhead close enough to down or incapacitate an F-22 of F-35. People are stupid to think that China or Russia would not use this kind of weapon. If we attack China or Russia, they will certainly do so. And just to be clear, no US fighter has shot down a Soviet, Russian, or Chines air force aircraft since 1970. These expensive aircraft are only ever used against low tier combatants.
@shenmisheshou7002 you just spent a whole lot of time and a whole lot of typing just to say something that's absolutely ridiculous. First of all the Chinese will not use tactical nukes or nukes of any kind on a first strike basis. This has been quite consistent and quite clear, and in order to use a nuke against a stealth they would have to do it over their own country highly unlikely😂
Second of all Russia's radar capabilities are an absolute joke at this point in time and probably for the next decade or two. When ukrainians are sending drones in, nonstealthy drones at that, with the Russians sing nothing then what makes you think they can possibly even come close to intercepting anything in our inventory other than a 4th gen?
Also you really have no clue on how stealth works, you don't get stealthier by getting larger like the B21.😂
There is a reason that the mature bomber platform the B21 has gotten smaller.
@@shenmisheshou7002as far as the rest of your claims, particularly the nuclear and tactical nuke claims, they're absolutely hilarious and I'm not even going to justify answering them
@@HenryKlausEsq.I'm sure it'll borrow a lot from the F-22 program, but it'll be basically a clean slate design. It's going to focus more on stealth, then on any kind of maneuverability
I disappeared because the B-21 program was starting to be developed about that time, in the "black" budget, so no money could be allotted to an FB-22 derivative.
Those pods were developed back in the 90s! They even put them on superhornets multiple times! There are rly good cad models of them you can find pictures of online too 😊
This is basically the NGAD
I was thinking the same thing when he said "the concept is still on the table or has seeded something new we are yet to see"
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The NGAD program was born in this study
With modern technology, it's cheaper to just invest in extra long-range air to ground attack stealth missles that turn onto glide bombs near their ground targets so there is no IR ( its not like this tech doesn't already exist)
With modern tech, you dont have to actually fly into and invade another countries air defences to bomb ground targets these days ( when you can just send in a heap of extra long-range stealth missles/ bombs 💣 )
Stealth is a 3 tier system :
- Shapes.
- Radar absorbent coating.
- Electronic Radar Jaming from within the missle or aircraft itself .
These, of course, wouldn't be dropped on low value targets in sand land it would be too expensive.
Rule number 1 in military warfare = Never reveal your full hand because your opponents can then anticipate your moves and restrictions based on what you have told them about the capabilities and range of your hi tech weaponry.
An F-16XL would be cheaper. Wouldn’t need stealth fighter/bomber if we already had stealth fighters clear the skies and SAMs.
I call bull. "Near equal payload" to a B2..???!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 me think you need better fact checking and research.
Sadly the Chinese have the capability to detect this, maybe that's why most of them is discontinued.
Speaking of the FB-22, does anybody know the F-35 has been certified with nuclear warheads
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The FB-22 would have used to the avionics of the f-35, had superior range, Superior payload, and also been a better fighter. That was the first problem. The second problem was that in the early 2000s, we were completely focused on the global war on terror where something like the F-16 XL would have made more sense.
15 years later, the FB-22 would have been useful, but it has been supplanted by the next generation air dominance fighter
the F22 walked so the F-35 could run same will happen with the next generations of fighter/bomber/do it all air craft
So technically this could have done what the f35 does ..but cheaper since it's not a whole new airframe and probably be more capable.. except for vtol
Whatever it may have cost, the military has already spent that much on botched programs.
The video was great, until the minute 8. From theres was just self bias . No dude, that thing wont fool the russian nor chines for long
Imagine this with the new mako hypersonic missile from Lockheed. Be able to carry 6-12 missiles in full stealth instead of the F-35’s respectable 2
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There is no reason for the FB-22 with the B-21 Raider existing. The B-21 Raider claims to have all aspect stealth, making it the only stealth aircraft known to the public to be invisible to radar at every angle.
Stealth does NOT mean invisible to radar
There is no such thing as being invisible to radar.
You guys are really that dumb to take the word literally... but please continue to be dumb with the gotcha attempts. Also, if something was invisible to radar, how would you even know it existed? Oh.. you wouldn't.. guess we should also ignore all those weird ass UAPs that don't show up on radar either.
First off, don't be dumb... you know exactly what I mean. Secondly, how would do you explain UAPs that seemingly are invisible to radar? Aliens, am I right...
You'd never know if there was true radar invisibility if you can't detect the thing or see it cruising at 40,000 ft+.
@@jamesrowlands8971 If said Radar cannot get meaningful signal returns, then the target is effectively radar-invisible.
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I believe some within the RAAF expressed interest in this as a top notch replacement for our F111's at that time. 🤔
B-21 Raider + loyal wingman Killed FB-22
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It's a great deal of fun in Ace7. The first time I saw it was in Ace Combat X when I was a kid, and was bewildered by the thing.
It also makes an appearance in HAWX as well although it takes up a different wing shape; more akin to the regular Raptor but merging the wings and elevators.
the GhostBat design team should have a crack at it.
a F-111 replacement should have had equal or superior range, not just longer range weapons.
while the f-35 is good, it dose not have the range, speed or payload to replace it.
6,759 km, Mach 2.5, 14,300 kgs. vs... 2,800 km, Mach 1.6, 8,160 kgs. build the FB-22 i say!
The reason it was cancelled is that the US decided to become Team America World Police instead of maintaining a peer focused military - they had no need for fancy stealth planes to take out gun mounted Toyotas in the dessert.
was this written by an AI? seems to be completely unaware the last few years of stealth bomber developments or procurement timelines
Fanboying rn... I named my wifi roters F-22 Raptor, and extenders are named F-22+ and F-22++
We definitely should have had the thing! It would have been most useful as a Chinese and/or Russian deterrent for the present day.
I like it
I gotta guess that they never made it because they never actually needed it. We already have stealth bombers and the Raptor can do air to ground.
Never even heard about the FB-22 before. Thanks for this vid, very informative. It makes sense they dumped the idea in the early/mid 2000's, with the focus on the Middle East. It's too bad, had they not, we might not have seen F-22 production shut down.
Tooling.
Ace combat for PlayStation. I used to play that with my two brothers.
Would have been a wonderful replacement for the RAAF F-111c/g.
Es similar ala última versión del f16 q no llego a producción?
F117 never went off the service.
Officially, it's "not in service", despite people spotting a few F-117s operating out of Tonopah Air Base with speculation ranging from drone tech testing, to covert operations.
They already have flown and test the next fighter and its competitors
Is "bomber" the right term for F-22? I thought it was air-to-air
lol, that's GTA:V at 3:53. Specifically, heading East over Great Chaparral just North of the Vinewood Hills.
flip wings up in right and down in left when turning design multiple up and down or not
3:33 amazing design stealth bomber ... nice video
A stealth f-14 would have been amazing
Why lie,we still don't know what the F22 Can or not do
The Fighter stealth bomber is called F-35 lmao
I like this powerful stealth bomber
The problem with a stealth bomber the size of a stealth fighter is that it can be seen by S band radar at great ranges, just as the F-22 and F-35 can be. These radars cannot lock on, but they can vector interceptors to the oncoming stealth aircraft. The S band radar can't see larger bombers like the B1 and the new B2. The wavelength of the S Band is good on smaller objects, but does not work well against the large stealth bombers.
I don't think you know how radar works.
I do know how radar works. I was an F4J Radio Intercept officer in the Marines and my collateral duty was Avionics Maintenance Chief. But none of that matters to you. If you look around the internet, you will find a great deal of technical papers on VHF radar and its ability to detect small stealth aircraft at great range. It is the wavelength that allows it to detect smaller aircraft. The antennas are too big to be mounted on airplanes so an enemy fighter would have difficult detecting and locking a stealth fighter BVR, but the VHF radar could see it from a great distance and vector an intercept. These radars take very large antenna arrays, and you can see these on the AGEIS destroyers and the Chinese 054 using the type 346B. But I am sure that you won't bother taking the time to do some reading about it and that is OK with me. Enjoy your day.
Sorry mate. I read a lot of comments about/ from people that don't. My apologies. Thanks for the greater explanation 👍
Full respect to you, Sir. Thankyou.
(I did a tiny bit of material integration in composites for the new'ish thingos at one point, so yeah. My bad. Old timey blokes talking about "stuff" I guess...)
I'm a solid 10-20yrs out of knowing how radars work myself, so my apologies. It boggles the mind these days.
@@sambojinbojin-sam6550 Sorry for being snippy. There is a lot of material there and even Chinese papers on topics like range and velocity gate jamming, and the Chinese have managed to steal a lot of information about the F-35 itself so I have some confidence that they have also stolen AGEIS data, but that being said, VHF Radars are not technically complicated because they typically only do detection with bearing, altitude and speed, and this info is passed to the AN/SPG-62 fire-control radar, which does the terminal guidance. The AGEIS AN/SPY-1 itself does not actually lock the target and does not have the necessary resolution to do so, but at a distance, you just need to know they are coming and as it turns out, if you make the antenna array big enough, it can see a stealth fighter size target at great distances, however, it cannot see larger aircraft like the B2 or B21 due to the wavelength. I have read several published Chinese papers from universities and I would say that their level of sophistication at the college level is on par with US college level, meaning that once they graduate, the have a ready supply of engineers to go to work for their own defense contractors, and frankly, the Chinese produce more advanced Science and Engineering degrees than the US does (they passed us in 2019). Overall, I have the sense that many in the US and the west cannot fully grasp the rate of acceleration that is occurring in the Chinese defense industry. China has their issues, but having done business in China 20 years ago, and as an 8 year Marine vet, I would say that underestimating your enemy is a rookie mistake. If the Chinese say the Type 346B can see a stealth fighter at great range, knowing it is technically possible, I have little reason to be skeptical.
@@shenmisheshou7002 all I can say, is the current and future air power of the US, has taken that into account. Mission planning and outcomes, for all factors and future planning, be they Air, Army, Naval, Marines or even Reserves, are taken into account.
Current US air power will piss all over both Russia and China, on a two-front war. That is what they are designed to do, if needed and necessary.
With the F-22 production line long since discontinued, we'd be better off making an FB-23. The YB-23 was stealthier and faster than the YF-22, but less agile. Agility isn't a key requirement for a medium bomber, but stealth and speed are exactly what's needed.
people still crying about YF23 and X32 😪
Parts interchangeability is the key here for using a derivative of the F22.
@@drewski5730: But parts aren't being made for the F-22 anymore, so if they have to start from scratch they might as well use the model best suited to being a medium bomber.
@@pahtar7189 but making new parts will extend the service life of the F-22’s. The F-22 would make a great bomber platform.
We don’t even know if the yf23 was even better than the 22. Ppl seats hype up the loser fighter
The thing looks majorly bad-ass.
Doomed like the F-16XL.
It's too costly to purchase and keep in the air full stop, that's it so stop the nonsense
At that time it was too costly and unserviceable due to the lack of sustainable stealth technology. Today however, it’s totally possible.
FB-22 has already resurrected as a program called GCAP.
What are you talking about?
@@jaydenle1000 The performance and layout required for the GCAP are substantially the same as FB-22.
Good video thanks
"Only this incredibly expensive wunderwaffe could be used in these modern complex wars, where all our other wunderwaffe has proven to be ineffectual. Ignore the fact that the Serbs shot down a stealth bomber in the 90s, with Soviet missiles from the 70s."
You mean that incident where a particularly competent battery commander was able to capitalise on a litany of operator errors on the part of the coalition?
Yeah... not something that's going to be easily repeated since it was incredibly situational...
@@FallenPhoenix86 so what you're saying is that you believe that propaganda made for idiots that the Russians and Chinese are incompetent at the form of warfare they train for most of the time, while the West is competent at it despite not having any recent experience or training in it?
Sandbox news had a good video on what they are doing with the F22 the other week.
What are the odds that the FB-22 program was developed as a black op program, much like the F-117 was - the US had the F-117 for years before it came to light that the US had these stealth mini bombers.
You live in unreality.
Nil.
The FB-22 LOOKS REAL NICE.GREAT VIDEO.