→ The truth about the Common Market 𝗥𝗘𝗠𝗔𝗥𝗞𝗔𝗕𝗟𝗘 𝟭𝟵𝟲𝟮 𝗙𝗜𝗟𝗠 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗘𝗨𝗥𝗢𝗣𝗘𝗔𝗡 𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗠𝗨𝗡𝗜𝗧𝗬 I'm delighted to screen this remarkable film about the European Community produced in 1962. The film, made just five years after the creation of the Community, includes striking shots of Europe in the early 1960s. This must-view documentary demonstrates that the European Community - also known as the Common Market - was never “only about trade” as some Brexiters claim today. The six countries that founded the Community did so to help achieve lasting peace and security between them, following the most devastating war the world had ever known. That world war - the second to originate on our continent - shattered Europe and convinced Europeans that their countries could not remain divided. This archive film showcases some of the impressive early achievements of the Community in implementing the Treaty of Rome, the aspirational accord that still forms the basis of today’s European Union. These included: ▪ the modernisation of Europe’s coal and steel industries; ▪ the creation of a common agricultural market; ▪ the freedom of workers to move from country-to-country inside the Community; ▪ the pooling of resources for the peaceful use of atomic energy. The film starts with footage of Europe ravaged by almost six years of war and includes an excerpt of Winston Churchill’s monumental speech made in Zurich in 1946, just one year after the end of the war. In that speech Churchill called for the continent to be united as the way to achieve lasting peace. “If Europe were once united in the sharing of its common inheritance,” said Churchill, “there would be no limit to the happiness, to the prosperity and the glory which its three or four hundred million people would enjoy.” How shocking and sad that with Brexit, Britain has snubbed Churchill's aspiration to achieve a “united Europe”.
I don't see a unified Europe, but a Europe subjugated under a centralized planned economy. Beneficent at first, it can only lead to the suppression of the people under an unconcerned bureaucracy.
A cute bit of propaganda to make it look like there's an economic benefit, but by taking down their borders they're each surrendering their countries sovereign control to bureaucrats. The modern version of an invading army, without having to resort to boots on the ground.
Yea sounds great but isn't the reality today, the powers that be have decided to give Europe away to Africans, Muslims, Indians, Pakistanis and pretty much every other race on the face of the earth...But never mind, let's all just keep pretending that Europe will still be Europe without Europeans🙄
I read everything you wrote here and I find it incredulous that *TODAY* you seem to believe that *'but for brexit'* the EU would be a Utopia. YOU, sir, are an idiot
Makes me want to weep when I see how local communities were destroyed, wonderful old buildings demolished for concrete blocks of apartments, small farmsteads closed and replaced with massive for profit farms. The intent of the bankers was clear. All for our own good... I don't think so.
@@lotus6560 The law of unintended consequences always applies. If every decision was perfect first time we wouldn't need any governments at all, once they'd made the perfect laws there would be nothing left to do. Circumstances have this habit of changing as people react to different stimuli in different, often unexpected, ways..
@MaximusPennyweather no, CAP is a series of laws devised in order to achieve a Plan.. Elements of which are changed and adjusted as circumstances require. Nobody had ever attempted to enact such a policy before, so there was bound to be an element of trial and error, same as with anything else. We can't even build a fekken railway. Our farming policy seems to be to pay big landowners to do nothing except buy more land from neighbours who are going bust, call it rewilding and buy cheap food from countries with lower standards of production and animal welfare..
Not much left of the coal and steel community as coal mines have closed and most steel making has shifted to Asia. Nuclear energy has been rejected and Europe has a problem of energy supply and the world’s highest cost of energy.
Tony Benn's last 2 questions on power answered regarding the EU Commission. "To whom are you accountable?" = Only ourselves. "And how can we get rid of you? = You can't.
If the “Common Market” was only about trade, it would never have been an issue for millions of people in the UK. When the EU was made up of seven nations of similar economic development, despite some major issues, it worked. Once the deliberate policy of “lowering unit labour costs” was implemented by Tony Blair’s government, millions saw their earnings cut by imported cheap labour from (mainly) Eastern Europe, whole communities changed at an unprecedented pace, more pressure put on social housing etc.. millions of Brits wanted out of the EU. Can’t say I blame them either.
“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.” Jean Monnet
FACT CHECK: Except Monnet doesn’t seem to have ever said this. According to writer Adrian Hilton, the quote actually comes from his 1997 book ‘The Principality and Power of Europe’ in which he summarised his *impression* of Monnet’s intentions. The first line of the supposed quote seems to paraphrase his book, but the second is taken verbatim.
@@inthedenoftigers5702The effect has been precisely as the misquotation allegedly made. The instigators of the grand projet knew perfectly well where their initial steps would end up. It’s why they did it.
Conveniently fails to mention the blueprint for this over bloated extra layer of bureaucracy. In 1942, (when Germany was still sure they’d win the war), there was a symposium held outlining this EECSC. There are many speeches documented where the underlying message is ‘we must emphasise to these countries that joining this organisation will result in their loss of sovereignty, without them realising this”. I’m not sure whether this information is still available on line. It’s a lengthy document but I would urge anyone who has the patience to look it up. It clearly spells out what their version of Europe was going to be like. It’s happening, and is still ongoing. If I remember correctly, the last of these speeches infers that Great Britain would become a travel destination, (no heavy industries, no manufacturing industries, no technical manufacturing capabilities).
Worked fine as trading union, but once it became a political union, the Rot set in, and it just got worse over time, rotton and corrupt to the core....
Politicians can’t reproduce, so always attempt to devolve government or join transnational organisations to get jobs for the boys and make money on the side off lobbyists, what was that number of lobbyists in the Eu alone , 13,000 last I heard.
It was always a political union as this film makes clear. You can not have a trading union without politics. And as the video made clear The Four Pillars were there from the start.
@@timplee WE don't need the EU we need a European Free Trade association like the USA, Mexico and Canada. It's easy to produce conformity of products that are acceptable to all participating members, just as the EU does it, they let the producers decide. Imagine a EFTA with all of Europe and beyond involved, the war between Russia and Ukraine could have been avoided. Germany could have invited all of Africa to come and join them but it would have had no adverse impact on the rest of us they way being EU members has. If Italy wanted to devalue it's Currency that would have been up to them but now they have no control whatsoever.
62 years later the utopian mirage fades away life morning fog before our lying eyes. “ And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.”
@@mikeoglen6848 I’ve always found it difficult to explain that the German term Reich refers to kingdoms and is different from the British empire. The German term for that would be Kolonialreich The Roman bit was selfjustification as was the holy.
@gertkaiser4273 Some time ago there was a big push to beatify some of the founding 'godfathers' of the 4th Reich. Thankfully even the Vatican wouldn't fall for that one as they could attribute even one miracle to any of them.
Lovely propaganda piece. The Soviets made similar films, so did the USA of course. They were made to show a wonderful utopia where everyone would be free, safe, have decent housing and plenty of food. None of them mentioned the enormous corruption of course, nor the loss of self determination of individual nation states. There was no mention either of true diversity; of celebrating and encouraging the distinctly individual and unique national characteristics and customs of the individual countries. Million of people fell for it of course and now find themselves and their children in a new Soviet style area, ruled and governed by corrupt psychopaths. The irony is of course that now, in 2024, Russia is a proud federation of people who enjoy freedom of expression, increasing wealth, plentiful food, meaningful trade with it’s neighbours and a sense of shared history. A place largely at ease with itself where small enterprise exists and its traditional religion is allowed to flourish. Most bizarrely from a western point of view is that it encourages families to exist, doesn’t murder millions of babies in the womb every year, refuses to over promote sexual deviancies, allows small business to flourish and encourages it’s own distinct religion. Europe and the US on the other hand are the complete opposite, and many of its citizens clap like demented seals at their own destruction.
You write this as if there was no corruption before the EU. That is not a very realistic depiction at all. From Egypt, through Rome, the European Empires and so many more 'civilisations'. Corruption in both the physical, moral and spiritual have been rife.
Ireland, for its first 50 years of its independence, was an insular, isolated, inward looking, uneducated, agrarian countr. A country where the Catholic Church had way too much influence. Such was the policy of Eamon De Valera, who wanted people to live in frugal comfort and devote spare time to matters of the soul. It was only when Ireland joined the European Union, that Ireland started to flourish.
And how they flourished!! One of the richest parts of the world right now - go Ireland!! Make use of a young and well-educated population and never allow your position at the fringe of EUrope to be an obstacle!!
Most of the news from Ireland now is of discontent with immigration, one of the 'benefit's of the EU and lack of housing and opportunities but what do I know as an Englishman. At least we are all benefitting in some areas!
The UK's relationship with the EU has been a trainwreck from day one. They acted like a spoiled brat who wanted to be part of the cool kids' club but couldn't stand following the rules once they got in. The government begged to join when they realized they were missing out on the economic party, but they never fully committed to the "European project." Once in, they constantly whined, demanded special treatment, and acted like they were too good for the rest of Europe. They wanted all the benefits without any of the responsibilities. UK politicians used the EU as a convenient scapegoat for decades, blaming Brussels for their own failures and feeding the public a steady diet of bullshit about straight bananas and other nonsense. The British public, meanwhile, couldn't be arsed to actually learn how the EU worked. They swallowed tabloid lies and politician's bullshit hook, line, and sinker. When things got tough, instead of working to reform the EU from within (where they had significant influence), the government helped by Farage threw a massive tantrum and decided to take their ball and go home. The Brexit campaign was a shitshow of lies fueled by xenophobia and delusions of grandeur, led by opportunists who never thought they'd actually win. Now the UK is out, the press media is still bitching about the EU, acting shocked that actions have consequences, and trying to blame everyone but themselves for the mess they've created. It's like watching a decades-long episode of a really bad reality TV show.
You can go right back to the Marshall Plan to find what the goal was. It was about peace, uniting Europe and keeping the Soviets out. The belief was that Europe as a whole would be more prosperous by removing trade barriers between European countries and that in turn would keep communism out.
Wealth creation is always a good way to keep communism out, in fact, it's the biggest issue Putin faces today, as the EU continues to expand and build up the eastern EU countries, it sends a powerful message to none EU countries in that region to want to join the EU, basically, the EU is delivering far more on what matters to the people, whereas Russia uses intimidation and threats to try to get what it wants, which can work at times, but ultimately Russia failed because it's not delivering on what most of the people want, which is freedom, security and prosperous, which is why we don't really see Russia as a threat any more.
The Marshall plan was the largest money laundering scam Earth has ever seen. The confiscated wealth from the populations by the left extremist of Germany, stolen by the Americans. Then handed back on the terms of the globalists! The money had to be used to buy American products. This combined with Hollywood propaganda to project a favorable attitude towards the Judeo-Christian plan of world domination. The cold "war" was promoted even though the same people was ruling both sides. A classic scenario that has been used for more than a thousand years. Sow fear and divide people in hating each other so that they spend their wealth on protection and borrow from banks. Setting up commodity markets and stock exchanges feeding the ruling elite that are not like the common man of Europe, but living their life in gluttony and looking forward to a glorious imaginary afterlife by enslaving the world.
@@paul1979uk2000 oh yea...a bunch of unelected muppets who don't even offer the option to vote NO offer soooo much freedom and prosperity as they force mass immigration from hostile cultures, silencing any dissenting voices, and only allow you to vote yet or abstain from voting on anything that they wish to push through. go back to your bullshit college...you have no place in the real world.
You forgot the main thing: keeping European nations weak, creating a barrier between Germany and Russia and keep an eye on France. The UK was always seen as part of the duopoly.
Churchills speech at the beginning was a bit ironic seeing the destruction caused by the same European people. 13 minutes. Workers can travel where worker shortages are present. That's been exploited to mean cheaper labour can be bussed in to force down wages of the indigenous population.
People, please stop talking about Democracy as a good thing. Please learn what it is. On itself Democracy is an evil concept. And that is why we dont live in a democratic country, we live in a Republic with democratic elements. “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.”- Aristotle
This film should be made freely available to all educational institutions to counter the lies of UK government and the gutter press. Coincidentally 1962 was the year I visited W Germany on a youth exchange visit, the friendships made then have lasted sixty years. I became a commited European.
It should be accompanied by the following quote. “Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.” Jean Monnet.
@@Sjb-on5xt I think it was Gorbachev who said "The EU is the new Soviet Union" amazing to me the level of ignorance of most of these commenters, I can only explain it as naivety or maybe they just like communism (?) ua-cam.com/video/bM2Ql3wOGcU/v-deo.htmlsi=v_cUoSd7IHuyJb43
@@normanchristie4524 And the propaganda its still embedded since then. Well done you. Imagine your still a committed European. Just tell me the difference between a committed European and a Europeans.
I will comment before listening.Countries signed up thinking it was a club.Its purpose was to control said countries trade etc from Europe.And to charge fees,which would go to Europe.The emission rules were about stopping competition from outside the EU,not about pollution.The Euro standards were increasingly hard to comply with,unless you cheat of course.By signing up,a Countries' laws and rules would be overridden by a Cartel in Europe.And of course the Cartel could flood any member State with refugees.
I find it very interesting that whenever a bureaucrat compares the Common Market to an ideal (demcracry, say) or another, understood aspect of a democratic state ( the US Supreme Court) he has to qualify the analogy, “Mostly a democratic institution”, “essentially like the Supreme Court in the United States”. Even when trying to sell the concept to doubtful citizens the buggers can’t be honest and cover their statements with weasel words.
@@Sjb-on5xt but they didn't join until 1995. Strange how it seemed such a good idea to them compared to the rubbish coming from the foamy-mouthed element among our politicians
@@Sjb-on5xt In which case Cliff Richard is Indian and Nanatte Newman was a Belgian.. I assumed you were referring to Kurt Waldheim, although I don't know any specific quote it wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption
@@kestrel230 Same plan, different methods of applying the plan, both lead to occupation. One occupied by an Austrian using force, the other occupied by technocrats and bureaucrats through treaties, respective European governments surrender sovereign control slice by slice. What better plan is there to occupy and defeat European nations without their people's even being aware, starting by telling them it's just coal and steel industry.
Winston Churchill was a horrible person , as the saying goes "power tends to corrupt , absolute power corrupts absolutely , great men are almost always bad men ..."
Britain joined the EEC, and that was fine. The problem was it was changed into a single power the EU, and this was never voted on. The EU has become an authoritarian state ruled by unelected officials with massive power to attack the 'sovereign' countries of the EU. It should be illegal to deny Hungary the €50 billion, but they used this money to blackmail a country to go against its national interest. The EU enticed with loans and other inducements for over 300 UK factories to relocate to Roumania and Poland. The UK fishing fleets were decimated by EU fishing quotas working against UK national interest. When the Germans wanted to set up an international EU army with all the nationalities that was a major redline destroying national interest. The EU should go back to being a trading organisation and stop trying to be a new United States of Europe, with a European dictator like Ursula Fond of Lying (Ursula Von de Leyen). When the EU countries became proper national entities again, Europe could flourish. Look at the devastating sanctions that the US has imposed on the European economies pushing them into recession. The EU must return to the EEC when the trading system worked alongside National Governments of Europe.
Unelected officials, authoritarian, blah blah blah. Gosh!! You are thick as a brick We've just had an election 2 weeks ago!! to be part of the commission, you have to be an MP, ELECTED in those elections. You keep spreading the LIES you've been told by brexiteers and Murdoch's fake news factories. Don't worry. We don't want the UK back in our great EU, that's for sure. Good riddance.
@@kestrel230nobody watched this film in UK when it was made. There was no non government information around back then. No Internet or cable TV or independent radio. No independent information.
@@crabby7668 so who owned the papers? You seem to be forgetting ITV and even the BBC wasn't being held hostage by the government back then.. Have you forgotten satire was also at its zenith at the time, with TV shows like TW3 getting huge audiences that are unheard of today? If anything the man in the street was better informed politically then.. None of the fake news conspiracy nutjobs would have lasted 5 minutes.. Politicians hadn't learned how to hide in freezers and would blindly walk into interviews with the likes of David Frost who would rip them apart on live TV.. You have a very selective memory
It still boggles my mind how some people seem to think the EU project was about trade only, it was well clear in the early days that the EU project is a political and economic union of further integration, at first it was designed around preventing another major war, but over time, it developed into a union to protect its members interest, none of this was a secret. In fact, when the UK joined the EEC years ago, Labour at the time even pointed out that it is a political and economic union, whereas the Tories were trying to sell it as an economic only union. The simple truth is, it was always a political and economic union, but for some reason, that message has been twisted up by the right wing in politics and the media, especially in some countries like the UK. It's weird to watch how people lose their minds over this, especially when common sense tells us that you can't have true free trade without a political union to balance the laws, rules and regulation among those countries, after all, no country in there right mind would open up there boarders to true free trade unless the rules among those countries are the same, otherwise, it would be very easy for one country or another to change the rules in there favour to undermine the others, knowing they all have free access to each other's markets, that was never going to work, hence why some rules, laws and regulations are needed at the EU level to have such an open market that the EU has, and we should remember, the EU is one of the few true free trade zone, many others say we have a free trade agreement with other countries, but if you look closely, there are a lot of conditions on those deals, the amount of goods that can come and go, the tariffs on certain goods and so on, it's anything but free trade. I understand that no country really wants to give some powers away, but in certain areas it makes sense to do so to have common standards and more efficiency, basically, we in the EU can do far more together as one if we pool our resources together and in the geopolitical world that's changing, we are likely going to have to integrate further to protect our political, economic and social interest, the alternative is that the likes of the US and China will push us Europeans aside, so it's not about seeing the EU as something to want, but something we need, and that's going to be more the case as the decades roll on.
It might be obvious to those who were informed about it, but the British were never told. They were specifically told it wouldn't affect their sovereignty and that it was just a common market (the name it was always referred to in Britain). They were lied to, and there are foreign office documents that tell this, that were declassified a few years ago. Heath and Co had no intention of informing the British citizens of the truth. Labour didn't either or the referendum to stay/leave in 75 might have had a different outcome
Face the facts: Europe has managed to be totally in control by the US. Weak leaders put in place to comply. EU the lapdog of the US including NATO. I remember the 1970s. Different story then. Now it's a (semi fascist) Uniparty with most of the once critical msm in check. One look at the Ukraine conflict is enough.
The emphasis on european cooperation shown explains why the english were not part of it from the start, needed years of whining to be let in and after entering almost imediatly had their first Brexit referendum: The english mindset back then and still today does not allow for true cooperation. The english always must "win" and their winning is only possible if they see others loosing. The english never saw themself as european. That attitude hasnt changed during their membership, always cherrypicking, always denying the existence of an "ever closer union of the people of europe", always blocking, scheming, vetoing and where all that didnt help, securing opt-outs. Now that the saboteurs are out the EU again feels like being able to move forward as shown in this movie. Of course "the english" is a generalisation and as such unfair to those in the UK that indeed have shared and share the european ideals - but they are too few to influence the huge majority of their fellow english. And by huge majority i dont mean the 52% that voted for Brexit but also the many that didnt care to vote and those that voted remain because it benefited the UK to stay in the EU. Im afraid even most of the remainers/rejoiners are not really pro-european but pro-british that want the UK to remain in control of and benefit from the EU. You being in the UK can maybe better evaluate those observations, but sometimes looking from the outside reveals what can not be seen if you are too close to the subject. Anyway , good luck.
Do please remember that the vast majority of Britons did not vote for Brexit (I am one of 50 million in the UK that didn't support Brexit). Half the nations of the UK strongly voted for us to remain in the EU. Today, poll after poll shows that support for Brexit has flatlined. Given the chance (which it seems Labour won't give us) most people have said they would vote to rejoin. Remember too that every British Prime Minister from 1957 to 2016 wanted Britain in the European Community. My video about that at everypm.jondanzig.com Churchill is recognised as one of the 11 founders of today's European Union. Look at my video about that at whyeu.jondanzig.com When in the EU, Britain was a highly regarded member. We helped to design and implement the Single Market (a passionate project of Thatcher) and we encouraged and facilitated the joining of former Communist countries. For most of our five decades in the EU, polling shows that most people in the UK did not want us to leave the EU - reflecting the landslide win for Remain in the 1975 referendum. See my article about that at: eu-rope.ideasoneurope.eu/2023/03/03/britain-is-naturally-pro-eu-read-why/ Yes, it all went wrong in the lead up to the referendum. But only 37% of the electorate gave their support for Brexit, and millions directly affected by the outcome were cruelly, and possibly illegally, denied a vote. See my article about that at: eu-rope.ideasoneurope.eu/2024/03/03/brexit-millions-were-denied-a-vote/ For sure, the EU has far more problems with member Hungary than they ever did with most of our membership of the EU. We need to rejoin. The EU needs us to rejoin. Today every European country is in the EU Single Market or wants to be - apart from Britain and Belarus. That's not the future for Britain.
@@JonDanzig I do remember they didnt vote to leave, but i also remember they didnt vote to remain either. Counting those that didnt vote, allthough they could have, on either side is lying to oneself. And yes, before that referendum they where heavily lied to (it would be an even longer post if i elaborated why the kind of lies they fell for revealed their greedy vile nature) and i also expected some sort of 2nd referendum. Then along came summer 2019 and your (for a long time) last election to the european parliament. And i thought, as you where about to leave, that election serves no other purpose than for those that where lied to and/or denied their 2nd referendum finaly the opportunity to show what the UK electorate really thought about the EU - No FPTP, no "local issues" , none of those excuses usualy used to argue why the people had no choice but to vote Tory. And so the UK voters showed us their thoughts about the EU - and, oh boy, did they show us. Largest Faction by far was UKIP and to consider the vote split 50/50 between anti-EU and pro-EU you would have had to count all Labour as pro-EU, which they where not back then and arent today either. So even before the 2019 GE that was won by a landslide on "get brexit done" it was already clear "UK wants Brexit" While i do understand the urge to see your fellow brits in a better light, you just have to accept that you are desperatly trying to deceive yourself. Now for the flatlining of the brexit support: Yes, more and more see brexit as the selfhurting failure it was warned to be. But again, those brits want back in the EU for economic reasons alone, they dont care for anything beyond the trade benefits. And if we let them in we will see a repetition of the 1970s: UK joins (insisting internaly that it is only joining a trade union), then, when the economy improves, UK pats their own shoulder on a job well done and starts again asking why the pesky EU is having a say in british matters and why they have to pay so much into the EU and why the UK doesnt leave. And to be clear, from the series of PMs to the UK as a whole, the pragmatic majority wanted to stay in the EU because they saw the trade benefits and the UKs political influence as an EU member. I vivdly remember the extreme cherrypicking of PM Thatcher - while excluding the UK from participation in the Euro she insisted that the german D-Mark had to be replaced by Euro, or she would veto german reunification. Such a nice and friendly Lady. A showcase of the most vile manipulative british "diplomacy" - but i hear she wasnt that liked in the UK either or at least some parts. About Churchill being considered a founder of the EU, without looking it up myself but if thats true why wasnt the UK a founding member? Another case of "it should be fine for the europeans, but we are british" ? And for being highly regarded , yes the UK worked hard to improve the trade union they wanted the EU to be, at the same time the UK was highly notorious for their blocking of anything promoting the "closer union of the people of europe" and of course for insisting that their investment in the EU had to be extremly beneficial ("I want my money back" etc) Yes, the EU has even now problematic members but countries like Hungary are way less influential than the UK was, much of the most notorious acts of the UK happend diplomaticaly concealed behind close doors, changing or even canceling proposals because the UK made clear they would oppose or even veto. And while we have our problems with Hungary and others, that will not become any better if we let another problematic country back in. And finaly , i agree with you , the UK needs to rejoin , as in it would be best for the UK. But same as with the Brexit vote you do not think about what is best for the EU. From an EU perspective, Brexit was extremly expensive and put a lot of pressure on EU buissnesses BUT the costs have been payed, the buissnesses adapted or faulted and that happened, is over, a done deal. The UK rejoining wont give any of the costs back, wont safe the companies that already closed down. But the UK will have demands, all the EU institutions that had to be relocated from the UK, the UK will want them back or compensation. So the EU countries that benefited will again have to pay for a british vote ...
I was 9 when that film was made. I then recall the many disappointments when De Gaul kept saying NO!!! Tabloid headlines I know but we finally joined. I believe the legislation for joining required a check with the people by way of a referendum, which was by no means a brexit vote but a 'Do You Want To Stay' vote. I still have the two pamphlets (and a stay-in badge!) issued by the new Labour government, who were not exactly pro europe, that were remarkably honest and even handed. It seems we chose to stay with the largest electural turn out of all time (so no apathy then) and a large majority. I am inclined to agree with some of your inferred negative comments from the UK during the following period, however I cannot help but feel many of those were also tabloid headlines hiding the real nuances of what was actually being agreed. So we then get to 2016 and a referendum to appease the Tory party. No even handedness, no concise facts, just political bull shit and partsan rhetoric. We get a very poor turnout where some 63% of the population emphatically said they wanted to leave or could be said to be 'content with the status quo, so what's the fuss'! Many of those people know what the fuss was about! How can we not be part of the worlds 3rd largest trading community that is on our doorstep. Instead we feed ourselves cheap food from Australia whilst our farmers goes to the wall. We haven't just shot ourselves in the foot, we've nailed our feet to the floor.
@@Ooze-cl5tx Neither Remain nor Leave achieved a true majority in the referendum. That should have given pause for thought, rather than going ahead with Brexit - and quite a hard Brexit at that. I argue that the 2019 general did not give a mandate for Brexit. In the general election of 2019, most voters did not vote for the Tories; most voters voted for parties that wanted another referendum on Brexit. The Tories only won their landslide 80-seat majority with just 1% more votes than they got in the 2017 general election, in which the Tories lost their majority entirely. Johnson got his 80-seat majority with the votes of less than 30% of those eligible to vote. Something is very wrong with our archaic system of voting, that returned a result not representative of the nation. Don't blame voters. Blame the system of voting. Our democracy is broken. Being in the EU was hugely profitable for Britain, as my video linked here demonstrated. busmoney.jondanzig.com
@@JonDanzig If the exceptional english had tried to learn from e.g. the swiss or the irish, for such an important and irreversible decision it would not have been a 50%+1 treshhold but more like a 2/3 requirement, it would have required a minimum of cast votes (like 75% of the voters) and under no circumstance would it have been possible to change it from advisory to TheWillOfThePeople(TM) AFTER the vote was cast. But in no election system is it viable to count those that declined to use their right to vote to any of the sides. I have seen people claim that only 25% voted for brexit because those abstaining didnt, but those abstainig didnt vote to remain either. I agree, the referendum was set up not only incompetent it was set up to be twisted any way the Tory government wanted. A government that was elected to rule britannia under the flawed FPTP system, a system that the 2 largest parties, standing for about 75% of the voters, were and are very content with and even the voters wanted to keep it in a referendum with large participation and a high approval. So under your current "democratic" system the 2019 GE did give an 80 seat majorty to a pro-brexit party. And about those voters that wanted "another referendum" i will keep arguing that the 2019 european parliament election was the perfect moment for those people to make their voice heard. Had the result been clearly pro-EU it could have been argued that Brexit didnt have the majority support and people could have made a very reasonable demand for a 2nd referendum. But it was pro-brexit and so all could see a 2nd referendum would have been a waste of time and money. "Don't blame voters. Blame the system of voting." Yes , feel free to further endorse all your friends, family and neighbours that gifted you Brexit and 14 years of Tory corruption. Imagine you critised them for voting for NHS privatisation and crumbling infrastructure - they might get mad at you and vote Tory next - oh, they do that anyway right? No matter how bad or good your voting system, it cant change the fact that the average british voter is rather right wing than center right.
So cooperation helps 😅😅😅 who would have thought. Britain committed horrible horrific crimes here in Ireland when Britain occupied Ireland. Now I certainly hold British public responsible but it's important to realise that cooperation works 💪 not committing horrific crimes against any country or anyone. I was born well before Ireland 🇮🇪 joined the EU and I'll always remember my teacher telling us in school that most of us will leave Ireland 🇮🇪 a country that I love so much. But no matter where everyone who left Ireland went, they are still part of our families, and yes, I'm including our families in Britain too . But I thank God that Ireland is part of the EU. For me, it's completely about cooperation helping each other, thank you to each member of the EU
I wouldn't say the British public were responsible. They were largely ignorant and I don't mean that in a rude way. When you have every news outlet telling you the same story, you tend to believe that story. There was no internet to fact check. Similarly, branding anyone to the left Roy Jenkins, as the loony left, ensured that working class people would vote tory, even though it was against their interests. Or the British Empire was a fantastic thing for the people of India, or Kenya. It's harder to contain the truth in the internet age.
@@skasteve6528 The Brexit referendum was well within the internet age. Granted, the young (if the voted at all) voted primarily anti Brexit. But still, many of them did not vote.
@@ronaldderooij1774 To be fair, the British were quick to give us a 'dig~out' (or bail~out, if you like) of their own following the financial crisis and banking collapse. There were plenty of conditions that came with it, I'm sure, but I don't remember any _British_ 'Troika' goons larging it around Dublin dictating the paring back of public services until the bones were showing scrape marks! None of this is to deny, of course, that while Ireland was left badly exposed by the US financial crisis (Enron, Fannie Mae, etc.) like everybody else, what _really_ did for us here was a thoroughly corrupt banking sector and years of balefully incompetent government(s) who not only promulgated but believed their own 'Celtic Tiger' bullsh1+!
I voted against the Common Market in the first referendum. I suspected greater political control was the aim, supported with economic control, but most people were deceived about this. Especially the democratic aspect, which was never explained.
Thank God we got out. I was part of a tender evaluation committee, employed by the EU Commission, sitting in Brussels. It was corrupt. The tenders had already been awarded before we even opened the offer envelopes. The food was good though - and all "Free".
Now we just run around in circles, whereas we use to walk. Why do we need speed? Where are we going? All I see is circles. This world, Earth, has a lot of circles. Shouldn't we be on Mars by now, or even leaving the Solar system? Our leaders are completely bonkers. We have polluted Earth, and have made little progress to populate the stars. Mind you, we have created 4600 religions, and everyone of them is the right one. The Supreme Being must be very proud of his creation. I suspect that a large rock will be coming our way, to end the human experiment. 300,000 years of our development, for what? Circles. Amen.
To the tune of Dire Straits ... "I want my Asteroid Tea" Right there with you, pal ! Bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. Part of me believes in The Secret Space Program if only to convince myself that we ARE out there, doing things. I say we...i of coarse mean "Them". ;) >picks up a 1958 copy of Astounding Science Fiction and Fact and gets back to reading / dreaming
Makes for nostalgic viewing, seeing Brussels as a fountain of ideas and innovation, when did it take a turn to become the authoritarian idiot factory that it is today?
Thanks for the great feature from the early days of the EU. And as they told then it still is valid today: Europe is and will ever be a work in progress. It needs people who work together and have a mindset of sharing for the benefit of everyone. This mindset has diminished over time and needs to be rebuilt again. I'm still sorry the UK is out, but to be fair, they never really committed to the core ideas of a united Europe.
This was the first time I voted, and I believed it was primarily about opening better international trading activities throughout Europe. Obviously to quiet unveiling of a European parliamentary control crept up, on us unsuspecting public. It was certainly not an organisation for which I voted.
@@kestrel230 It was a problem for us when we were part of the EU. World trade barriers and no ability to make any trade agreements. Most countries in the world has a problem with Fortress Europe.
@@robinwhitebeam4386 yeh cos we've made such a roaring success of that since Brexit.. Just as the EU signed a deal with Japan, we got Liz Truss selling out our farmers in desperation to get deals signed with countries like Australia.
To be fair - not towards Brexiters, whose true motives have conveniently always been hidden, but to historical truth - both Churchill, who believed Britain would remain a Colonial Empire, and De Gaulle, who had seen the British from close up, didn’t expect or want Britain to join. This wish originated in the British experience of losing world power status and falling behind the economic development of its neighbours during the 1950s and 1960s, while the founding fathers who were responsible for the preamble to the treaty of Rome were driven by the experience of the world wars and the economic consequences of segregated markets in the 1920s and 1930s. Both had been experienced quite differently in Britain. One could say that all European nations on the continent had vast experience with military defeat and occupation by neighbours, that’s why the idea of integration to prevent future conflict was so appealing. Britain, being an island, has to resort to self-defeating to learn the lesson.
Churchill brought about the destruction of the empire, he systemically sold off every asset and colony we had. He was of course following orders, but the British were handed a peace offer so sweet in 1940 with her empire and assets still intact. This fact still alludes the British public who generally think Churchill was a great man, when he was the key war monger. Starting the civilian bombing campaign for political ends, to kill the peace movement. Post war Britain is Churchill's legacy.
When Churchill & Eisenhower Thought up the EEC it was to stop the Kids Fighting Between Themselves,, Give them a Trading Post in Central Europe To help occupy their time, get their minds of War & geared more toward internal Trade Deals , of Course UK was never meant to be Members,, Our Constitution Prevented That.. that's Why WE Never Joined . Heath Joined & became a Criminal Instantly committing High Treason & as Criminals Can't Occupy Positions of Trust in UK He immediately Ceased to be Recognised as Prime Minister @ Law of UK..
Britain was a participant of the drafting of the Treaty of Rome. The governance of the EU mirrors ours, with its beurocracy and civil servants. Much of the early EEC law was lifted straight from ours. Britain had a huge influence in the formation. There never was any secret, the long term goal was always a United States of Europe but too many of our politicians clung on to their memories of trips the Festival of Britain and all Johnny Foreigners were weird
The ship.has sailed as regards Brexit. Economically, the EU has a declining share of Global GDP. Obsessed with regulating with its precautionary principle
You can sleep at night, the UK is not welcome in the EU anymore, even if you apply to rejoin. We're done with british excepcionalism and expoiled brat syndrome. Enjoy your dirty grey island
Ah those were the days...before greedy paws started to dip into the pot and fffked it up . do we really need corrupt politicians to run things surely any honest person could do a better job
I can't help but wonder what the makers of this film would think of the EU 60 years on. Did they anticipate former-Soviet states being part of it ? Did they anticipate a Europe rammed with Muslims and Africans ? Did they antcipate the rise of China ? Oh yes, and where is the DEI in this ?????
The UK has just elected a new Prime Minister who, not that long ago, directly ruled out any attempt to rejoin the EU's Single Market and Customs Union - and continues to do so. Even as his Chancellor attempts to extricate anything of value from the resultant economic wreckage, he just doesn't get it. What his predecessor rightly conceded to Northern Ireland (and boasted of the fact) should be available to the remaining nations of the UK. I fear we (and particularly England) have failed to learn the lessons of recent history (as with the pandemic).
Labour didn't want to lose any votes, so was telling the people what they think they wanted to hear, in truth, we really don't know what Labours policies on the EU are and probably won't for at least a year or so after the election. But now the election is open and they won by a landslide, Labour can be more open on its policies with the EU, but don't expect any radical change in policies any time soon, the UK doesn't really have the power to do that as it's really up to the EU to decide on that, which anything like rejoining the EU or the single market and custom union, well it's at least a decade away but probably many decades away, so no point in Labour pushing on EU membership as it's out of their hands, but what they can do is create warmer ties with the EU, maybe even join the single market and custom union over the next decade.
Well he is right. UK cannot join the EU´s single market and customs union. No third country can do that. It can apply to join EU and the criteria for a succesful application need to be complied with. I leave out the other way through applying for EFTA membership and then applying to be a signatory of the EEA agreement since Norway and Iceland oppose UK joining EFTA.
@@paul1979uk2000 unfortunately at the time Labour was led by a Corbyn who has always been staunchly to the left wing of the party and the extremist on both left and right have always been anti EU. The Labour Party as a whole is more pro-Europe but Corbyn would have been savaged by the left if he openly supported Remain but darent support Leave either - so they tried to sit on the fence. A perfect storm, the mess from which we're going to be clearing up for decades
A very good time to make this film available - even better would've been in early 2016 (if it ever got a chance to be aired). I don't think the UK was ever integrated with the EU, except for the obvious benefits of the worlds largest tariiff free market. Being an island, protectionism is in it’s DNA - helped on by past nostalgia which, as the world can see , are the useless residuals of a Post Imperial Masturbation.
This is an antibrexit film. It uses the argument of post war European unity in a way that doesn’t exist today. The Common Market we voted for doesn’t exist anymore. This was just a step towards federalism that has been rejected in the UK polls. World trade is much more integrated than it ever was then such that the EU is no longer relevant. Why should we follow a model that contrary to it’s inception is holding back economic development in Europe?
Europe was developed long before they invaded the shithole of Africa. But please...keep pretending like you have any substance to your idiotic argument... "we wuz kangs"
- and furthermore, forget all this brexit bullshit about sovereignty - as Sir Ivan Rogers (Liverpool 2018 speech) said, and to paraphrase - “ don’t think that that the majority of countries in the EU feel their sovereignty dimminished - but, more enhanced by being part of a union"
He would say that wouldn't he as the UK permanent representative to the EU bureaucrat. However not speaking for most of the people, who have always had very little interest in being part of the Union.
Try telling that BS to Hungary and Poland, who are being ostracised and heavily fined by Brussels on a daily basis, because they refuse to let let marauding Turd Worlders into their respective Countries ! Is that what that guy Rodgers meant by 'enhancement' ! ? I think not. Good for Hungary and Poland for not allowing their Countries to be invaded by these economic parasites, to give them their correct title !
Looks really good. Do you think that the UK should join? The government of the day thought so and understood the project. De Gaul keeper kept us out for another 10 years, maybe a member state may well keep the UK out when it wishes to join? Hope not.
Just like all the defeated 6 countries of Europe who joined it originally, they were coerced, blackmailed and badgered to join by the USA and then British politicians too had the US treatment. Under UK constitutional law it's forbidden to allow a foreign organisation and its court to have binding power preeminent supreme authority inside the undefeated UK.
As with Trump, Brexit has destroyed families. Being Brexiled in France with a forrin wife, I can no longer 'pop over to Wales' to see my elderly parents; it's more of an administrative nightmare now. My father voted for bendy bananas and mainly "against Brussels, not against Europe." Deeply held personal beliefs, formed from briefly scanned headlines at the supermarket. (BTW: France is FABULOUS and I highly recommend leaving the Island at the nearest opportunity. It's like being reborn in a totally different and modern society with different and progressive attitudes. They can even tell the difference between The Last Supper and Greek Mythology. Most speak AT LEAST two languages. Which is nice)
Divided Rome, the ten toes of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, head of gold, chest & arms of silver, midsection of bronze, legs of iron, feet of iron and clay. 42And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Daniel 2:42-44 KJV. We are living in the ten toes of divided Rome, the end times. Jesus is coming back soon … very soon! Amen!
We have to remember that worker's parties/ Labour were mostly highly sceptical about both the EU and NATO. Immigration, foreign workers, all plans by the right to keep wages low and competition high. Oh how times have changed. We have the Uniparty everywhere now. Progress, right?!😆
Sounds very utopian and an old , local viewpoint. The science of land management and ecology has changed a lot since this film was made. Large scale industrial methods of production and governance is not welcomed any more.
It's a lovely piece of of-the-time aspirational reporting. The motivation of "we're not as big as other countries" seems now like utterly backwards fear-mongering. That's before the mother-of-all-reasons "we have to drive a lot of paperwork around" - those were the days! We'll all always be European, I think we can get along just fine without One World Order fantasists lining their nests on the backs of our fears. We gave it a shot - it's time to let it go in favour of something new.
Isnt it wonderful? All sunny skies, not a cloud in the sky. And Europe is of course sailing its own course, away from the big power players like the USA...oh wait!
Ok timeout. Churchill in 1946 saying noble Europe, the fairest on earth. After killing the shit out of each other for the previous six years. Without Europe the world would have a lot more people living peacefully
Just had elections 2 weeks ago. To be a commissioner you have to be an ELECTED MP. That's the way it has been for decades. You've been conned by the Murdoch's fake news factory all along
I'm old enough to remember the 60s. This EU, 6 countries, would have worked. It had a very strong eastern border and a very strong West Germany. Even in those days the 2 southern countries benefited more than the other 4 countries, but OK - no big deal. To me the best EU would have been: West Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Scandinavia and Finland. I have worked in all these countries and the cultures are not too different, the French speaking part of Belgium being the exception. I believe cultural similarity is a pre requisite for building unity.
If only, from the beginning, European nations had differentiated between pasports of the motherland, and passports of the empire, imagine if Europeans had free movement, yet europes boarders were safe from the waves of desperate migrants! We might have avoided Brexit and continued with this noble project. "We will defend our Island, no mater what the cost may be" (W, Churchill)
→ The truth about the Common Market
𝗥𝗘𝗠𝗔𝗥𝗞𝗔𝗕𝗟𝗘 𝟭𝟵𝟲𝟮 𝗙𝗜𝗟𝗠 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗘𝗨𝗥𝗢𝗣𝗘𝗔𝗡 𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗠𝗨𝗡𝗜𝗧𝗬
I'm delighted to screen this remarkable film about the European Community produced in 1962.
The film, made just five years after the creation of the Community, includes striking shots of Europe in the early 1960s.
This must-view documentary demonstrates that the European Community - also known as the Common Market - was never “only about trade” as some Brexiters claim today.
The six countries that founded the Community did so to help achieve lasting peace and security between them, following the most devastating war the world had ever known.
That world war - the second to originate on our continent - shattered Europe and convinced Europeans that their countries could not remain divided.
This archive film showcases some of the impressive early achievements of the Community in implementing the Treaty of Rome, the aspirational accord that still forms the basis of today’s European Union.
These included:
▪ the modernisation of Europe’s coal and steel industries;
▪ the creation of a common agricultural market;
▪ the freedom of workers to move from country-to-country inside the Community;
▪ the pooling of resources for the peaceful use of atomic energy.
The film starts with footage of Europe ravaged by almost six years of war and includes an excerpt of Winston Churchill’s monumental speech made in Zurich in 1946, just one year after the end of the war.
In that speech Churchill called for the continent to be united as the way to achieve lasting peace.
“If Europe were once united in the sharing of its common inheritance,” said Churchill, “there would be no limit to the happiness, to the prosperity and the glory which its three or four hundred million people would enjoy.”
How shocking and sad that with Brexit, Britain has snubbed Churchill's aspiration to achieve a “united Europe”.
Thank you for making this easily available.
I don't see a unified Europe, but a Europe subjugated under a centralized planned economy. Beneficent at first, it can only lead to the suppression of the people under an unconcerned bureaucracy.
A cute bit of propaganda to make it look like there's an economic benefit, but by taking down their borders they're each surrendering their countries sovereign control to bureaucrats. The modern version of an invading army, without having to resort to boots on the ground.
Yea sounds great but isn't the reality today, the powers that be have decided to give Europe away to Africans, Muslims, Indians, Pakistanis and pretty much every other race on the face of the earth...But never mind, let's all just keep pretending that Europe will still be Europe without Europeans🙄
I read everything you wrote here and I find it incredulous that *TODAY* you seem to believe that *'but for brexit'* the EU would be a Utopia. YOU, sir, are an idiot
Makes me want to weep when I see how local communities were destroyed, wonderful old buildings demolished for concrete blocks of apartments, small farmsteads closed and replaced with massive for profit farms. The intent of the bankers was clear. All for our own good... I don't think so.
Small farms are "for profit" too.
I like profit, don't you too?
European Central planning, socialist and failed like all socialist states
@@kf5hcr176It was all about control from the centre. It’s modern expression is called “Stakeholder capitalism”, though I see it as technocracy.
Anyone remember the CAP? Surplus food was destroyed to protect prices and farmers. Meanwhile Africa and Asia starved
Yes!
And it got changed
@@lotus6560 The law of unintended consequences always applies. If every decision was perfect first time we wouldn't need any governments at all, once they'd made the perfect laws there would be nothing left to do. Circumstances have this habit of changing as people react to different stimuli in different, often unexpected, ways..
@MaximusPennyweather no, CAP is a series of laws devised in order to achieve a Plan.. Elements of which are changed and adjusted as circumstances require. Nobody had ever attempted to enact such a policy before, so there was bound to be an element of trial and error, same as with anything else. We can't even build a fekken railway.
Our farming policy seems to be to pay big landowners to do nothing except buy more land from neighbours who are going bust, call it rewilding and buy cheap food from countries with lower standards of production and animal welfare..
And we paid over the odds for it
This is the theory,
Ursula von der Leyen is the reality.
Brexit is also a reality. Seems to be going very well. Enjoy your none freedom of movement, and riots on your streets. Brexit for ever!
She is using Stalin's version of regional unions
Her family was the biggest slave owners in Europe .
Anything changed ?
Not to mention that it follows the Nazi post-war plan for Europe almost perfectly, including the German leader!
@@TavistockLiesBrainwashing It's more Hitler than Stalin, especially given her family's history😏
Not much left of the coal and steel community as coal mines have closed and most steel making has shifted to Asia. Nuclear energy has been rejected and Europe has a problem of energy supply and the world’s highest cost of energy.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 Coal n Steel community has morphed into the European Union.
So next, lets start an argument the the main energy supplier. Oh, sorry, was I too late on that one lol
Tony Benn's last 2 questions on power answered regarding the EU Commission. "To whom are you accountable?" = Only ourselves. "And how can we get rid of you? = You can't.
If the “Common Market”
was only about trade, it would never have been an issue for millions of people in the UK. When the EU was made up of seven nations of similar economic development, despite some major issues, it worked. Once the deliberate policy of “lowering unit labour costs” was implemented by Tony Blair’s government, millions saw their earnings cut by imported cheap labour from (mainly) Eastern Europe, whole communities changed at an unprecedented pace, more pressure put on social housing etc.. millions of Brits wanted out of the EU. Can’t say I blame them either.
Ideology always sounds perfect - and always hides the agenda of the profiteers.
Except this is not ideology. It is an idea put into practice and constantly reshaped in the light of reality to increase democracy.
@@timplee where's our democracy now??
Free movement of money and peoples.
Small hat: *rubs hands vigorously*
Where are you from? Where I live, it is alive and well.
@@timpleeYou fool.
“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.” Jean Monnet
Which he never said. That's a made-up quote by Europhobes
FACT CHECK: Except Monnet doesn’t seem to have ever said this.
According to writer Adrian Hilton, the quote actually comes from his 1997 book ‘The Principality and Power of Europe’ in which he summarised his *impression* of Monnet’s intentions. The first line of the supposed quote seems to paraphrase his book, but the second is taken verbatim.
@@inthedenoftigers5702
That's the purpose of quotes, to disimminate intent.
Stalin's quote on regional unions is applicable
@@inthedenoftigers5702The effect has been precisely as the misquotation allegedly made.
The instigators of the grand projet knew perfectly well where their initial steps would end up. It’s why they did it.
Conveniently fails to mention the blueprint for this over bloated extra layer of bureaucracy. In 1942, (when Germany was still sure they’d win the war), there was a symposium held outlining this EECSC. There are many speeches documented where the underlying message is ‘we must emphasise to these countries that joining this organisation will result in their loss of sovereignty, without them realising this”.
I’m not sure whether this information is still available on line. It’s a lengthy document but I would urge anyone who has the patience to look it up. It clearly spells out what their version of Europe was going to be like. It’s happening, and is still ongoing. If I remember correctly, the last of these speeches infers that Great Britain would become a travel destination, (no heavy industries, no manufacturing industries, no technical manufacturing capabilities).
Britain is not even a travel destination except for the ex-pats in the dinghies. It has become a sewage filled decaying kip.
There is greater sovereignty in making rules in partnership with others than having to take the rules.
Worked fine as trading union, but once it became a political union, the Rot set in, and it just got worse over time, rotton and corrupt to the core....
Politicians can’t reproduce, so always attempt to devolve government or join transnational organisations to get jobs for the boys and make money on the side off lobbyists, what was that number of lobbyists in the Eu alone , 13,000 last I heard.
It was always a political union as this film makes clear. You can not have a trading union without politics. And as the video made clear The Four Pillars were there from the start.
@@timplee
WE don't need the EU we need a European Free Trade association like the USA, Mexico and Canada. It's easy to produce conformity of products that are acceptable to all participating members, just as the EU does it, they let the producers decide.
Imagine a EFTA with all of Europe and beyond involved, the war between Russia and Ukraine could have been avoided. Germany could have invited all of Africa to come and join them but it would have had no adverse impact on the rest of us they way being EU members has. If Italy wanted to devalue it's Currency that would have been up to them but now they have no control whatsoever.
62 years later the utopian mirage fades away life morning fog before our lying eyes. “ And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.”
The name (common-market) was used in Britain..as it sounded like (common-wealth) which lulled people into its acceptance!!
The map showing the six countries. If you take off Italy below Rome and add Switzerland and Austria you get Charlemagne’s Holy Roman Empire.
I would only point out that this entity was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor, indeed, an Empire...
@@mikeoglen6848 I’ve always found it difficult to explain that the German term Reich refers to kingdoms and is different from the British empire.
The German term for that would be Kolonialreich
The Roman bit was selfjustification as was the holy.
@gertkaiser4273
Some time ago there was a big push to beatify some of the founding 'godfathers' of the 4th Reich. Thankfully even the Vatican wouldn't fall for that one as they could attribute even one miracle to any of them.
Lovely propaganda piece. The Soviets made similar films, so did the USA of course. They were made to show a wonderful utopia where everyone would be free, safe, have decent housing and plenty of food. None of them mentioned the enormous corruption of course, nor the loss of self determination of individual nation states. There was no mention either of true diversity; of celebrating and encouraging the distinctly individual and unique national characteristics and customs of the individual countries. Million of people fell for it of course and now find themselves and their children in a new Soviet style area, ruled and governed by corrupt psychopaths.
The irony is of course that now, in 2024, Russia is a proud federation of people who enjoy freedom of expression, increasing wealth, plentiful food, meaningful trade with it’s neighbours and a sense of shared history. A place largely at ease with itself where small enterprise exists and its traditional religion is allowed to flourish. Most bizarrely from a western point of view is that it encourages families to exist, doesn’t murder millions of babies in the womb every year, refuses to over promote sexual deviancies, allows small business to flourish and encourages it’s own distinct religion.
Europe and the US on the other hand are the complete opposite, and many of its citizens clap like demented seals at their own destruction.
You write this as if there was no corruption before the EU. That is not a very realistic depiction at all. From Egypt, through Rome, the European Empires and so many more 'civilisations'. Corruption in both the physical, moral and spiritual have been rife.
Great post with many valid points that most can’t grasp today .
Lol the bots are out in strong numbers today. Russia is anything but free.
That’s because we have been enriched with subversive communism in a twist of irony🥸
IMHO
A truly sinister film.
Propaganda from a non-democratic organisation.
That just had elections 2 weeks ago. You've been conned
As Nigel Farage is finally learning - the EU is much more democratic than Westminster.
@@timplee the irony is the EU set up is actually based on Westminster
EUSSR
@@kestrel230 With improvements! :)
Excellent .Thank you Jon .
Ireland, for its first 50 years of its independence, was an insular, isolated, inward looking, uneducated, agrarian countr. A country where the Catholic Church had way too much influence.
Such was the policy of Eamon De Valera, who wanted people to live in frugal comfort and devote spare time to matters of the soul.
It was only when Ireland joined the European Union, that Ireland started to flourish.
Totally agree, Ireland looks forward, England looks back. 🇮🇪🇪🇺
And how they flourished!! One of the richest parts of the world right now - go Ireland!! Make use of a young and well-educated population and never allow your position at the fringe of EUrope to be an obstacle!!
You sound like you are blissfully unaware of the protests in Ireland right now against the tidal wave of immigration...
Most of the news from Ireland now is of discontent with immigration, one of the 'benefit's of the EU and lack of housing and opportunities but what do I know as an Englishman. At least we are all benefitting in some areas!
@@terenceretter5049The Irish are now calling for irexit , because of immigration forced on them by eu loving traitors.
The UK's relationship with the EU has been a trainwreck from day one.
They acted like a spoiled brat who wanted to be part of the cool kids' club but couldn't stand following the rules once they got in.
The government begged to join when they realized they were missing out on the economic party, but they never fully committed to the "European project."
Once in, they constantly whined, demanded special treatment, and acted like they were too good for the rest of Europe. They wanted all the benefits without any of the responsibilities.
UK politicians used the EU as a convenient scapegoat for decades, blaming Brussels for their own failures and feeding the public a steady diet of bullshit about straight bananas and other nonsense.
The British public, meanwhile, couldn't be arsed to actually learn how the EU worked.
They swallowed tabloid lies and politician's bullshit hook, line, and sinker.
When things got tough, instead of working to reform the EU from within (where they had significant influence), the government helped by Farage threw a massive tantrum and decided to take their ball and go home.
The Brexit campaign was a shitshow of lies fueled by xenophobia and delusions of grandeur, led by opportunists who never thought they'd actually win.
Now the UK is out, the press media is still bitching about the EU, acting shocked that actions have consequences, and trying to blame everyone but themselves for the mess they've created.
It's like watching a decades-long episode of a really bad reality TV show.
This comment should be pinned.
Spot on
@@ronaldderooij1774Every UK MOP should be obliged to read this comment and watch the video
Good old tories, eh? BJ and the crew have a lot to answer for. Lying bastards.
Cope
You can go right back to the Marshall Plan to find what the goal was.
It was about peace, uniting Europe and keeping the Soviets out.
The belief was that Europe as a whole would be more prosperous by removing trade barriers between European countries and that in turn would keep communism out.
Wealth creation is always a good way to keep communism out, in fact, it's the biggest issue Putin faces today, as the EU continues to expand and build up the eastern EU countries, it sends a powerful message to none EU countries in that region to want to join the EU, basically, the EU is delivering far more on what matters to the people, whereas Russia uses intimidation and threats to try to get what it wants, which can work at times, but ultimately Russia failed because it's not delivering on what most of the people want, which is freedom, security and prosperous, which is why we don't really see Russia as a threat any more.
The Marshall plan was the largest money laundering scam Earth has ever seen. The confiscated wealth from the populations by the left extremist of Germany, stolen by the Americans. Then handed back on the terms of the globalists! The money had to be used to buy American products. This combined with Hollywood propaganda to project a favorable attitude towards the Judeo-Christian plan of world domination. The cold "war" was promoted even though the same people was ruling both sides. A classic scenario that has been used for more than a thousand years. Sow fear and divide people in hating each other so that they spend their wealth on protection and borrow from banks. Setting up commodity markets and stock exchanges feeding the ruling elite that are not like the common man of Europe, but living their life in gluttony and looking forward to a glorious imaginary afterlife by enslaving the world.
@MaximusPennyweather
Where is the communism then?
@@paul1979uk2000 oh yea...a bunch of unelected muppets who don't even offer the option to vote NO offer soooo much freedom and prosperity as they force mass immigration from hostile cultures, silencing any dissenting voices, and only allow you to vote yet or abstain from voting on anything that they wish to push through. go back to your bullshit college...you have no place in the real world.
You forgot the main thing: keeping European nations weak, creating a barrier between Germany and Russia and keep an eye on France. The UK was always seen as part of the duopoly.
A good lesson in propaganda. Thanks for sharing.
Where were Mr Cumleigh-Warner and Grayson? Lol, seriously, though, thanks for posting this, Jon.
thank you for this reminder. It should not be shown in the UK only, in Germany as well.
Churchills speech at the beginning was a bit ironic seeing the destruction caused by the same European people. 13 minutes. Workers can travel where worker shortages are present. That's been exploited to mean cheaper labour can be bussed in to force down wages of the indigenous population.
He was busy ki,lling Ba,ngladeshis in 1946
We're seeing it on a global scale in Europe now
Whatever, this is only a problem for dumb uneducated people
Not told that were all to be replaced by enriched cultures.
People, please stop talking about Democracy as a good thing. Please learn what it is. On itself Democracy is an evil concept. And that is why we dont live in a democratic country, we live in a Republic with democratic elements. “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.”- Aristotle
This film should be made freely available to all educational institutions to counter the lies of UK government and the gutter press. Coincidentally 1962 was the year I visited W Germany on a youth exchange visit, the friendships made then have lasted sixty years. I became a commited European.
It should be accompanied by the following quote.
“Europe’s nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.” Jean Monnet.
@@Sjb-on5xtRuski bot
1968. The year I moved to New Zealand. Could see the writing on the wall then. Went back for the first time last year. A great reminder why I left.
@@Sjb-on5xt
I think it was Gorbachev who said "The EU is the new Soviet Union" amazing to me the level of ignorance of most of these commenters, I can only explain it as naivety or maybe they just like communism (?)
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@@normanchristie4524 And the propaganda its still embedded since then. Well done you. Imagine your still a committed European. Just tell me the difference between a committed European and a Europeans.
I will comment before listening.Countries signed up thinking it was a club.Its purpose was to control said countries trade etc from Europe.And to charge fees,which would go to Europe.The emission rules were about stopping competition from outside the EU,not about pollution.The Euro standards were increasingly hard to comply with,unless you cheat of course.By signing up,a Countries' laws and rules would be overridden by a Cartel in Europe.And of course the Cartel could flood any member State with refugees.
I find it very interesting that whenever a bureaucrat compares the Common Market to an ideal (demcracry, say) or another, understood aspect of a democratic state ( the US Supreme Court) he has to qualify the analogy, “Mostly a democratic institution”, “essentially like the Supreme Court in the United States”. Even when trying to sell the concept to doubtful citizens the buggers can’t be honest and cover their statements with weasel words.
Didn't an Austrian have the same plan?
@@Sjb-on5xt but they didn't join until 1995. Strange how it seemed such a good idea to them compared to the rubbish coming from the foamy-mouthed element among our politicians
@@kestrel230 I wasn't talking about the Austrians, but an Austrian who went onto lead Germany.
@@Sjb-on5xt In which case Cliff Richard is Indian and Nanatte Newman was a Belgian.. I assumed you were referring to Kurt Waldheim, although I don't know any specific quote it wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption
@@kestrel230 Same plan, different methods of applying the plan, both lead to occupation. One occupied by an Austrian using force, the other occupied by technocrats and bureaucrats through treaties, respective European governments surrender sovereign control slice by slice. What better plan is there to occupy and defeat European nations without their people's even being aware, starting by telling them it's just coal and steel industry.
No.
This should be shown in schools across the UK.
Exactly, should be part of the National Curriculum.
@@patrickyorke3028 School children are ignorant about Churchill or any of the 2 world wars history & causes.
@@patrickyorke3028 Not only schools - all institutions. Perhaps one day the UK will join this wonderful union.
As both a history lesson and a warning. Then afterwards show 1984..
Winston Churchill was a horrible person , as the saying goes "power tends to corrupt , absolute power corrupts absolutely , great men are almost always bad men ..."
Britain joined the EEC, and that was fine. The problem was it was changed into a single power the EU, and this was never voted on.
The EU has become an authoritarian state ruled by unelected officials with massive power to attack the 'sovereign' countries of the EU. It should be illegal to deny Hungary the €50 billion, but they used this money to blackmail a country to go against its national interest. The EU enticed with loans and other inducements for over 300 UK factories to relocate to Roumania and Poland. The UK fishing fleets were decimated by EU fishing quotas working against UK national interest. When the Germans wanted to set up an international EU army with all the nationalities that was a major redline destroying national interest.
The EU should go back to being a trading organisation and stop trying to be a new United States of Europe, with a European dictator like Ursula Fond of Lying (Ursula Von de Leyen).
When the EU countries became proper national entities again, Europe could flourish. Look at the devastating sanctions that the US has imposed on the European economies pushing them into recession.
The EU must return to the EEC when the trading system worked alongside National Governments of Europe.
Unelected officials, authoritarian, blah blah blah. Gosh!! You are thick as a brick We've just had an election 2 weeks ago!! to be part of the commission, you have to be an MP, ELECTED in those elections. You keep spreading the LIES you've been told by brexiteers and Murdoch's fake news factories. Don't worry. We don't want the UK back in our great EU, that's for sure. Good riddance.
@brianmaloney-cc2kt ................and that is why people voted for Brexit
@@brianmaloney-cc2kt it didn't need to be voted on. The EU was always the intention - did you actually watch this film?
@@kestrel230nobody watched this film in UK when it was made. There was no non government information around back then. No Internet or cable TV or independent radio. No independent information.
@@crabby7668 so who owned the papers? You seem to be forgetting ITV and even the BBC wasn't being held hostage by the government back then.. Have you forgotten satire was also at its zenith at the time, with TV shows like TW3 getting huge audiences that are unheard of today? If anything the man in the street was better informed politically then.. None of the fake news conspiracy nutjobs would have lasted 5 minutes.. Politicians hadn't learned how to hide in freezers and would blindly walk into interviews with the likes of David Frost who would rip them apart on live TV.. You have a very selective memory
Incredible, such optimism - thanks for sharing this Jon.
The Club of Rome. You can stop right there..
It still boggles my mind how some people seem to think the EU project was about trade only, it was well clear in the early days that the EU project is a political and economic union of further integration, at first it was designed around preventing another major war, but over time, it developed into a union to protect its members interest, none of this was a secret.
In fact, when the UK joined the EEC years ago, Labour at the time even pointed out that it is a political and economic union, whereas the Tories were trying to sell it as an economic only union.
The simple truth is, it was always a political and economic union, but for some reason, that message has been twisted up by the right wing in politics and the media, especially in some countries like the UK.
It's weird to watch how people lose their minds over this, especially when common sense tells us that you can't have true free trade without a political union to balance the laws, rules and regulation among those countries, after all, no country in there right mind would open up there boarders to true free trade unless the rules among those countries are the same, otherwise, it would be very easy for one country or another to change the rules in there favour to undermine the others, knowing they all have free access to each other's markets, that was never going to work, hence why some rules, laws and regulations are needed at the EU level to have such an open market that the EU has, and we should remember, the EU is one of the few true free trade zone, many others say we have a free trade agreement with other countries, but if you look closely, there are a lot of conditions on those deals, the amount of goods that can come and go, the tariffs on certain goods and so on, it's anything but free trade.
I understand that no country really wants to give some powers away, but in certain areas it makes sense to do so to have common standards and more efficiency, basically, we in the EU can do far more together as one if we pool our resources together and in the geopolitical world that's changing, we are likely going to have to integrate further to protect our political, economic and social interest, the alternative is that the likes of the US and China will push us Europeans aside, so it's not about seeing the EU as something to want, but something we need, and that's going to be more the case as the decades roll on.
US blew up NordStream not China or Russia
It might be obvious to those who were informed about it, but the British were never told. They were specifically told it wouldn't affect their sovereignty and that it was just a common market (the name it was always referred to in Britain).
They were lied to, and there are foreign office documents that tell this, that were declassified a few years ago. Heath and Co had no intention of informing the British citizens of the truth. Labour didn't either or the referendum to stay/leave in 75 might have had a different outcome
Face the facts: Europe has managed to be totally in control by the US. Weak leaders put in place to comply. EU the lapdog of the US including NATO. I remember the 1970s. Different story then. Now it's a (semi fascist) Uniparty with most of the once critical msm in check. One look at the Ukraine conflict is enough.
The emphasis on european cooperation shown explains why the english were not part of it from the start, needed years of whining to be let in and after entering almost imediatly had their first Brexit referendum:
The english mindset back then and still today does not allow for true cooperation.
The english always must "win" and their winning is only possible if they see others loosing.
The english never saw themself as european.
That attitude hasnt changed during their membership,
always cherrypicking,
always denying the existence of an "ever closer union of the people of europe",
always blocking, scheming, vetoing and where all that didnt help, securing opt-outs.
Now that the saboteurs are out the EU again feels like being able to move forward as shown in this movie.
Of course "the english" is a generalisation and as such unfair to those in the UK that indeed have shared and share
the european ideals - but they are too few to influence the huge majority of their fellow english.
And by huge majority i dont mean the 52% that voted for Brexit but also the many
that didnt care to vote and those that voted remain because it benefited the UK to stay in the EU.
Im afraid even most of the remainers/rejoiners are not really pro-european
but pro-british that want the UK to remain in control of and benefit from the EU.
You being in the UK can maybe better evaluate those observations, but sometimes looking from the outside reveals what can not be seen if you are too close to the subject.
Anyway , good luck.
Do please remember that the vast majority of Britons did not vote for Brexit (I am one of 50 million in the UK that didn't support Brexit). Half the nations of the UK strongly voted for us to remain in the EU. Today, poll after poll shows that support for Brexit has flatlined. Given the chance (which it seems Labour won't give us) most people have said they would vote to rejoin.
Remember too that every British Prime Minister from 1957 to 2016 wanted Britain in the European Community. My video about that at everypm.jondanzig.com
Churchill is recognised as one of the 11 founders of today's European Union. Look at my video about that at whyeu.jondanzig.com
When in the EU, Britain was a highly regarded member. We helped to design and implement the Single Market (a passionate project of Thatcher) and we encouraged and facilitated the joining of former Communist countries.
For most of our five decades in the EU, polling shows that most people in the UK did not want us to leave the EU - reflecting the landslide win for Remain in the 1975 referendum. See my article about that at: eu-rope.ideasoneurope.eu/2023/03/03/britain-is-naturally-pro-eu-read-why/
Yes, it all went wrong in the lead up to the referendum. But only 37% of the electorate gave their support for Brexit, and millions directly affected by the outcome were cruelly, and possibly illegally, denied a vote. See my article about that at: eu-rope.ideasoneurope.eu/2024/03/03/brexit-millions-were-denied-a-vote/
For sure, the EU has far more problems with member Hungary than they ever did with most of our membership of the EU.
We need to rejoin. The EU needs us to rejoin. Today every European country is in the EU Single Market or wants to be - apart from Britain and Belarus. That's not the future for Britain.
@@JonDanzig
I do remember they didnt vote to leave, but i also remember they didnt vote to remain either. Counting those that didnt vote, allthough they could have, on either side is lying to oneself.
And yes, before that referendum they where heavily lied to (it would be an even longer post if i elaborated why the kind of lies they fell for revealed their greedy vile nature)
and i also expected some sort of 2nd referendum.
Then along came summer 2019 and your (for a long time) last election to the european parliament.
And i thought, as you where about to leave, that election serves no other purpose than for those
that where lied to and/or denied their 2nd referendum finaly the opportunity to show what
the UK electorate really thought about the EU - No FPTP, no "local issues" , none of those
excuses usualy used to argue why the people had no choice but to vote Tory.
And so the UK voters showed us their thoughts about the EU - and, oh boy, did they show us.
Largest Faction by far was UKIP and to consider the vote split 50/50 between anti-EU and pro-EU
you would have had to count all Labour as pro-EU, which they where not back then and arent today either.
So even before the 2019 GE that was won by a landslide on "get brexit done" it was already clear "UK wants Brexit"
While i do understand the urge to see your fellow brits in a better light, you just have to accept that you are desperatly trying to deceive yourself.
Now for the flatlining of the brexit support:
Yes, more and more see brexit as the selfhurting failure it was warned to be.
But again, those brits want back in the EU for economic reasons alone, they dont care for anything beyond the trade benefits.
And if we let them in we will see a repetition of the 1970s:
UK joins (insisting internaly that it is only joining a trade union),
then, when the economy improves, UK pats their own shoulder on a job well done and
starts again asking why the pesky EU is having a say in british matters and why they have to pay so much into the EU
and why the UK doesnt leave.
And to be clear, from the series of PMs to the UK as a whole, the pragmatic majority wanted
to stay in the EU because they saw the trade benefits and the UKs political influence as an EU member.
I vivdly remember the extreme cherrypicking of PM Thatcher - while excluding the UK from participation in the Euro
she insisted that the german D-Mark had to be replaced by Euro, or she would veto german reunification.
Such a nice and friendly Lady. A showcase of the most vile manipulative british "diplomacy" - but i hear she wasnt
that liked in the UK either or at least some parts.
About Churchill being considered a founder of the EU, without looking it up myself but if thats true why wasnt the UK a founding member?
Another case of "it should be fine for the europeans, but we are british" ?
And for being highly regarded , yes the UK worked hard to improve the trade union they wanted the EU to be, at the same time
the UK was highly notorious for their blocking of anything promoting the "closer union of the people of europe"
and of course for insisting that their investment in the EU had to be extremly beneficial ("I want my money back" etc)
Yes, the EU has even now problematic members but countries like Hungary are way less influential than the UK was,
much of the most notorious acts of the UK happend diplomaticaly concealed behind close doors, changing or even canceling
proposals because the UK made clear they would oppose or even veto.
And while we have our problems with Hungary and others, that will not become any better if we let another problematic country back in.
And finaly , i agree with you , the UK needs to rejoin , as in it would be best for the UK.
But same as with the Brexit vote you do not think about what is best for the EU.
From an EU perspective, Brexit was extremly expensive and put a lot of pressure on EU buissnesses
BUT the costs have been payed, the buissnesses adapted or faulted and that happened, is over, a done deal.
The UK rejoining wont give any of the costs back, wont safe the companies that already closed down.
But the UK will have demands, all the EU institutions that had to be relocated from the UK, the UK will want them back or compensation.
So the EU countries that benefited will again have to pay for a british vote ...
I was 9 when that film was made. I then recall the many disappointments when De Gaul kept saying NO!!! Tabloid headlines I know but we finally joined. I believe the legislation for joining required a check with the people by way of a referendum, which was by no means a brexit vote but a 'Do You Want To Stay' vote. I still have the two pamphlets (and a stay-in badge!) issued by the new Labour government, who were not exactly pro europe, that were remarkably honest and even handed. It seems we chose to stay with the largest electural turn out of all time (so no apathy then) and a large majority.
I am inclined to agree with some of your inferred negative comments from the UK during the following period, however I cannot help but feel many of those were also tabloid headlines hiding the real nuances of what was actually being agreed.
So we then get to 2016 and a referendum to appease the Tory party. No even handedness, no concise facts, just political bull shit and partsan rhetoric. We get a very poor turnout where some 63% of the population emphatically said they wanted to leave or could be said to be 'content with the status quo, so what's the fuss'! Many of those people know what the fuss was about!
How can we not be part of the worlds 3rd largest trading community that is on our doorstep. Instead we feed ourselves cheap food from Australia whilst our farmers goes to the wall. We haven't just shot ourselves in the foot, we've nailed our feet to the floor.
@@Ooze-cl5tx Neither Remain nor Leave achieved a true majority in the referendum. That should have given pause for thought, rather than going ahead with Brexit - and quite a hard Brexit at that.
I argue that the 2019 general did not give a mandate for Brexit.
In the general election of 2019, most voters did not vote for the Tories; most voters voted for parties that wanted another referendum on Brexit. The Tories only won their landslide 80-seat majority with just 1% more votes than they got in the 2017 general election, in which the Tories lost their majority entirely.
Johnson got his 80-seat majority with the votes of less than 30% of those eligible to vote.
Something is very wrong with our archaic system of voting, that returned a result not representative of the nation. Don't blame voters. Blame the system of voting. Our democracy is broken.
Being in the EU was hugely profitable for Britain, as my video linked here demonstrated. busmoney.jondanzig.com
@@JonDanzig
If the exceptional english had tried to learn from e.g. the swiss or the irish,
for such an important and irreversible decision it would not have been a 50%+1 treshhold
but more like a 2/3 requirement,
it would have required a minimum of cast votes (like 75% of the voters) and under no
circumstance would it have been possible to change it from
advisory to TheWillOfThePeople(TM) AFTER the vote was cast.
But in no election system is it viable to count those that declined to use
their right to vote to any of the sides.
I have seen people claim that only 25% voted for brexit because those abstaining didnt,
but those abstainig didnt vote to remain either.
I agree, the referendum was set up not only incompetent
it was set up to be twisted any way the Tory government wanted.
A government that was elected to rule britannia under the flawed FPTP system,
a system that the 2 largest parties, standing for about 75% of the voters,
were and are very content with and even the voters wanted to keep it in a
referendum with large participation and a high approval.
So under your current "democratic" system the 2019 GE did
give an 80 seat majorty to a pro-brexit party.
And about those voters that wanted "another referendum" i will keep arguing
that the 2019 european parliament election was the perfect moment for those
people to make their voice heard. Had the result been clearly pro-EU it could have
been argued that Brexit didnt have the majority support and people could
have made a very reasonable demand for a 2nd referendum.
But it was pro-brexit and so all could see a 2nd referendum
would have been a waste of time and money.
"Don't blame voters. Blame the system of voting."
Yes , feel free to further endorse all your friends, family and neighbours that
gifted you Brexit and 14 years of Tory corruption.
Imagine you critised them for voting for NHS privatisation and crumbling infrastructure -
they might get mad at you and vote Tory next - oh, they do that anyway right?
No matter how bad or good your voting system, it cant change the fact that the average
british voter is rather right wing than center right.
So cooperation helps 😅😅😅 who would have thought.
Britain committed horrible horrific crimes here in Ireland when Britain occupied Ireland.
Now I certainly hold British public responsible but it's important to realise that cooperation works 💪 not committing horrific crimes against any country or anyone.
I was born well before Ireland 🇮🇪 joined the EU and I'll always remember my teacher telling us in school that most of us will leave Ireland 🇮🇪 a country that I love so much.
But no matter where everyone who left Ireland went, they are still part of our families, and yes, I'm including our families in Britain too .
But I thank God that Ireland is part of the EU. For me, it's completely about cooperation helping each other, thank you to each member of the EU
I wouldn't say the British public were responsible. They were largely ignorant and I don't mean that in a rude way. When you have every news outlet telling you the same story, you tend to believe that story. There was no internet to fact check. Similarly, branding anyone to the left Roy Jenkins, as the loony left, ensured that working class people would vote tory, even though it was against their interests. Or the British Empire was a fantastic thing for the people of India, or Kenya. It's harder to contain the truth in the internet age.
@@skasteve6528 The Brexit referendum was well within the internet age. Granted, the young (if the voted at all) voted primarily anti Brexit. But still, many of them did not vote.
I think Ireland was not let down by the EU after the banking crisis, and also not let down after Brexit. Of course not. You are one of us.
"hold British public responsible" sounds like licence to be a bigot.
@@ronaldderooij1774 To be fair, the British were quick to give us a 'dig~out' (or bail~out, if you like) of their own following the financial crisis and banking collapse. There were plenty of conditions that came with it, I'm sure, but I don't remember any _British_ 'Troika' goons larging it around Dublin
dictating the paring back of public services until the bones were showing scrape marks!
None of this is to deny, of course, that while Ireland was left badly exposed by the US financial crisis (Enron, Fannie Mae, etc.) like everybody else, what _really_ did for us here was a thoroughly corrupt banking sector and years of balefully incompetent government(s) who not only promulgated but believed their own 'Celtic Tiger' bullsh1+!
Ironic since Churchill helped to destroy.
@davidbrims5825
If he hadn't we would now be in a union we could leave. Did you ever think of that?
I voted against the Common Market in the first referendum. I suspected greater political control was the aim, supported with economic control, but most people were deceived about this. Especially the democratic aspect, which was never explained.
Thank God we got out. I was part of a tender evaluation committee, employed by the EU Commission, sitting in Brussels. It was corrupt. The tenders had already been awarded before we even opened the offer envelopes. The food was good though - and all "Free".
Now we just run around in circles, whereas we use to walk. Why do we need speed? Where are we going? All I see is circles. This world, Earth, has a lot of circles. Shouldn't we be on Mars by now, or even leaving the Solar system? Our leaders are completely bonkers. We have polluted Earth, and have made little progress to populate the stars. Mind you, we have created 4600 religions, and everyone of them is the right one. The Supreme Being must be very proud of his creation. I suspect that a large rock will be coming our way, to end the human experiment. 300,000 years of our development, for what? Circles. Amen.
To the tune of Dire Straits ...
"I want my Asteroid Tea"
Right there with you, pal !
Bonkers.
Absolutely bonkers.
Part of me believes in The Secret Space Program if only to convince myself that we ARE out there, doing things.
I say we...i of coarse mean "Them".
;)
>picks up a 1958 copy of Astounding Science Fiction and Fact and gets back to reading / dreaming
This film didn't age well. All the early reasons have all but ended coal, steel nuclear. Just the mass bureaucracy left.
Thank you.
Makes for nostalgic viewing, seeing Brussels as a fountain of ideas and innovation, when did it take a turn to become the authoritarian idiot factory that it is today?
Thanks for the great feature from the early days of the EU. And as they told then it still is valid today: Europe is and will ever be a work in progress. It needs people who work together and have a mindset of sharing for the benefit of everyone. This mindset has diminished over time and needs to be rebuilt again. I'm still sorry the UK is out, but to be fair, they never really committed to the core ideas of a united Europe.
Good comment Peter - but if I may add, I doubt that many in the EU want to lose their sovereign powers either with more countries looking to leave.
Whose truth?
This was the first time I voted, and I believed it was primarily about opening better international trading activities throughout Europe.
Obviously to quiet unveiling of a European parliamentary control crept up, on us unsuspecting public.
It was certainly not an organisation for which I voted.
Notice the walls around the EEC , that is the trade problem that we ( the world) still has.
Yes.. Because we're on the other side of them again
And those walls are a problem that you will continue to have for decades to come. The Brits voted for those walls.
@@kestrel230 It was a problem for us when we were part of the EU. World trade barriers
and no ability to make any trade agreements. Most countries in the world has a problem with Fortress Europe.
@@robinwhitebeam4386 yeh cos we've made such a roaring success of that since Brexit.. Just as the EU signed a deal with Japan, we got Liz Truss selling out our farmers in desperation to get deals signed with countries like Australia.
@@kestrel230 What has your comment to do with what I posted ? What is 'That'?
To be fair - not towards Brexiters, whose true motives have conveniently always been hidden, but to historical truth - both Churchill, who believed Britain would remain a Colonial Empire, and De Gaulle, who had seen the British from close up, didn’t expect or want Britain to join. This wish originated in the British experience of losing world power status and falling behind the economic development of its neighbours during the 1950s and 1960s, while the founding fathers who were responsible for the preamble to the treaty of Rome were driven by the experience of the world wars and the economic consequences of segregated markets in the 1920s and 1930s. Both had been experienced quite differently in Britain.
One could say that all European nations on the continent had vast experience with military defeat and occupation by neighbours, that’s why the idea of integration to prevent future conflict was so appealing. Britain, being an island, has to resort to self-defeating to learn the lesson.
Churchill brought about the destruction of the empire, he systemically sold off every asset and colony we had. He was of course following orders, but the British were handed a peace offer so sweet in 1940 with her empire and assets still intact. This fact still alludes the British public who generally think Churchill was a great man, when he was the key war monger. Starting the civilian bombing campaign for political ends, to kill the peace movement.
Post war Britain is Churchill's legacy.
Nothing wrong with being an independent country, why did europe surrender to bureaucracy.
When Churchill & Eisenhower Thought up the EEC it was to stop the Kids Fighting Between Themselves,, Give them a Trading Post in Central Europe To help occupy their time, get their minds of War & geared more toward internal Trade Deals , of Course UK was never meant to be Members,, Our Constitution Prevented That.. that's Why WE Never Joined . Heath Joined & became a Criminal Instantly committing High Treason & as Criminals Can't Occupy Positions of Trust in UK He immediately Ceased to be Recognised as Prime Minister @ Law of UK..
Britain was a participant of the drafting of the Treaty of Rome. The governance of the EU mirrors ours, with its beurocracy and civil servants. Much of the early EEC law was lifted straight from ours. Britain had a huge influence in the formation.
There never was any secret, the long term goal was always a United States of Europe but too many of our politicians clung on to their memories of trips the Festival of Britain and all Johnny Foreigners were weird
The Brits cannot accept that they’ve lost WW2.
Nice idea that turned into a huge & corrupt gravy train.
And here we are …
funny to hear one of the greatest warmongers of all times. churchill, talk about peace and happiness
The ship.has sailed as regards Brexit. Economically, the EU has a declining share of Global GDP. Obsessed with regulating with its precautionary principle
You can sleep at night, the UK is not welcome in the EU anymore, even if you apply to rejoin. We're done with british excepcionalism and expoiled brat syndrome. Enjoy your dirty grey island
Ah those were the days...before greedy paws started to dip into the pot and fffked it up . do we really need corrupt politicians to run things surely any honest person could do a better job
0:50. Actually, "the home of all the great parent races of the western world" would've been Ukraine and areas around the black sea
Thanks, that gave me a good laugh .
EU worst thing that ever happened to Europeans
Yep
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I can't help but wonder what the makers of this film would think of the EU 60 years on. Did they anticipate former-Soviet states being part of it ? Did they anticipate a Europe rammed with Muslims and Africans ? Did they antcipate the rise of China ? Oh yes, and where is the DEI in this ?????
One can imagine Churchill's reply. It wouldnt be pretty.
Nothing about the great replacement , nothing about the " great " Kalergi ?
Tinfoil hat idiots like you make my day
An interesting, historical , blue sky film that has little relevance to any country's world wide trade and political policies.
Common market, single market, European union..
Excellent. It shows the essentials when joining the EU which got stronger and generous out of the war in Ukraine.
The UK has just elected a new Prime Minister who, not that long ago, directly ruled out any attempt to rejoin the EU's Single Market and Customs Union - and continues to do so. Even as his Chancellor attempts to extricate anything of value from the resultant economic wreckage, he just doesn't get it. What his predecessor rightly conceded to Northern Ireland (and boasted of the fact) should be available to the remaining nations of the UK. I fear we (and particularly England) have failed to learn the lessons of recent history (as with the pandemic).
Labour didn't want to lose any votes, so was telling the people what they think they wanted to hear, in truth, we really don't know what Labours policies on the EU are and probably won't for at least a year or so after the election.
But now the election is open and they won by a landslide, Labour can be more open on its policies with the EU, but don't expect any radical change in policies any time soon, the UK doesn't really have the power to do that as it's really up to the EU to decide on that, which anything like rejoining the EU or the single market and custom union, well it's at least a decade away but probably many decades away, so no point in Labour pushing on EU membership as it's out of their hands, but what they can do is create warmer ties with the EU, maybe even join the single market and custom union over the next decade.
Well he is right. UK cannot join the EU´s single market and customs union. No third country can do that. It can apply to join EU and the criteria for a succesful application need to be complied with. I leave out the other way through applying for EFTA membership and then applying to be a signatory of the EEA agreement since Norway and Iceland oppose UK joining EFTA.
@@paul1979uk2000 It was no landslide 1 in 5 votes.
@@paul1979uk2000 unfortunately at the time Labour was led by a Corbyn who has always been staunchly to the left wing of the party and the extremist on both left and right have always been anti EU. The Labour Party as a whole is more pro-Europe but Corbyn would have been savaged by the left if he openly supported Remain but darent support Leave either - so they tried to sit on the fence. A perfect storm, the mess from which we're going to be clearing up for decades
Churchills comments about the tragedy of Europe, wonder what he’d say about the Europe of today ?
A very good time to make this film available - even better would've been in early 2016 (if it ever got a chance to be aired). I don't think the UK was ever integrated with the EU, except for the obvious benefits of the worlds largest tariiff free market. Being an island, protectionism is in it’s DNA - helped on by past nostalgia which, as the world can see , are the useless residuals of a Post Imperial Masturbation.
This is an antibrexit film. It uses the argument of post war European unity in a way that doesn’t exist today. The Common Market we voted for doesn’t exist anymore. This was just a step towards federalism that has been rejected in the UK polls. World trade is much more integrated than it ever was then such that the EU is no longer relevant. Why should we follow a model that contrary to it’s inception is holding back economic development in Europe?
What would Europe be without Africa (the minerals of Africa/the colonization of Africa).
It would be like East Europe, undeveloped.
Europe was developed long before they invaded the shithole of Africa. But please...keep pretending like you have any substance to your idiotic argument... "we wuz kangs"
- and furthermore, forget all this brexit bullshit about sovereignty - as Sir Ivan Rogers (Liverpool 2018 speech) said, and to paraphrase - “ don’t think that that the majority of countries in the EU feel their sovereignty dimminished - but, more enhanced by being part of a union"
He would say that wouldn't he as the UK permanent representative to the EU bureaucrat. However not speaking for most of the people, who have always had very little interest in being part of the Union.
Try telling that BS to Hungary and Poland, who are being ostracised and heavily fined by Brussels on a daily basis, because they refuse to let let marauding Turd Worlders into their respective Countries !
Is that what that guy Rodgers meant by 'enhancement' ! ? I think not. Good for Hungary and Poland for not allowing their Countries to be invaded by these economic parasites, to give them their correct title !
How about: 'sovereignty' is now considered a dirty word, even by the Irish politicians. Shameful.
Good video, wish my parents had watched this before they voted for a load of oven-ready bollocks.
A 1960's film which dispels the lies and exposes the true situation, albeit too late.
Too late to change the past, Andy, but not too late to change the future. On that, we must work together if we are to achieve the change we want.
@@JonDanzig True.
Looks really good. Do you think that the UK should join? The government of the day thought so and understood the project. De Gaul keeper kept us out for another 10 years, maybe a member state may well keep the UK out when it wishes to join? Hope not.
Just like all the defeated 6 countries of Europe who joined it originally, they were coerced, blackmailed and badgered to join by the USA and then British politicians too had the US treatment. Under UK constitutional law it's forbidden to allow a foreign organisation and its court to have binding power preeminent supreme authority inside the undefeated UK.
This should be compulsory viewing for all. How on earth have we managed to get to the position that we find ourselves in today 😢
Easy to see how you got where you are today by watching this film. Europe accepted a Bolshevik revolution with a happy face on it.
As with Trump, Brexit has destroyed families.
Being Brexiled in France with a forrin wife, I can no longer 'pop over to Wales' to see my elderly parents; it's more of an administrative nightmare now.
My father voted for bendy bananas and mainly "against Brussels, not against Europe."
Deeply held personal beliefs, formed from briefly scanned headlines at the supermarket.
(BTW: France is FABULOUS and I highly recommend leaving the Island at the nearest opportunity.
It's like being reborn in a totally different and modern society with different and progressive attitudes.
They can even tell the difference between The Last Supper and Greek Mythology.
Most speak AT LEAST two languages.
Which is nice)
He keeps saying "compete" instead of "co-operate". Every competition is a race to the bottom.
Divided Rome, the ten toes of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, head of gold, chest & arms of silver, midsection of bronze, legs of iron, feet of iron and clay. 42And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Daniel 2:42-44 KJV. We are living in the ten toes of divided Rome, the end times. Jesus is coming back soon … very soon! Amen!
When this video was made-and for a long time afterwards, The Uk still had the worst slums in europe. It is still under-developed. Love Europe though!!
Should have been part of the 2016 Remain campaign. Ah, well.
We have to remember that worker's parties/ Labour were mostly highly sceptical about both the EU and NATO. Immigration, foreign workers, all plans by the right to keep wages low and competition high. Oh how times have changed. We have the Uniparty everywhere now. Progress, right?!😆
It started as a peace project, with the steel production
Sounds very utopian and an old , local viewpoint. The science of land management and ecology has changed a lot since this film was made. Large scale industrial methods of production and governance is not welcomed any more.
And then, 62 years later... ua-cam.com/video/v-cnZWboyrY/v-deo.html . You may need translated subtitles if you are not fluent in French.
Cheers.
It's a lovely piece of of-the-time aspirational reporting. The motivation of "we're not as big as other countries" seems now like utterly backwards fear-mongering. That's before the mother-of-all-reasons "we have to drive a lot of paperwork around" - those were the days!
We'll all always be European, I think we can get along just fine without One World Order fantasists lining their nests on the backs of our fears. We gave it a shot - it's time to let it go in favour of something new.
Nah.
The year that my dad was born in Greece.
Makes you realise the small mindedness of the Brexiteers.
Isnt it wonderful? All sunny skies, not a cloud in the sky. And Europe is of course sailing its own course, away from the big power players like the USA...oh wait!
Not to mention King Leopold of Belgien talkin jesus, speaking of movement of people.
Amuses me still that the people who happily voted us into the Common Market were all too happy to vote us out again.
No one voted us into the Common Market. No one asked us if we wanted to be in the Common Market. Is that amusing as well?
When I see films like this I feel a bit sorry that UK left the EEC.
It’ll only hurt a little bit but after a while you’ll start to enjoy it (but not as much as me..!) Mwahahahahaha haah!!!…
Ok timeout. Churchill in 1946 saying noble Europe, the fairest on earth. After killing the shit out of each other for the previous six years. Without Europe the world would have a lot more people living peacefully
It is not democratic never was.
Just had elections 2 weeks ago. To be a commissioner you have to be an ELECTED MP. That's the way it has been for decades. You've been conned by the Murdoch's fake news factory all along
Lies don't become true by repeating.
Indeed, so it would be better for the UK to dissolve itself.
Bunk
I'm old enough to remember the 60s. This EU, 6 countries, would have worked. It had a very strong eastern border and a very strong West Germany. Even in those days the 2 southern countries benefited more than the other 4 countries, but OK - no big deal. To me the best EU would have been: West Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Scandinavia and Finland. I have worked in all these countries and the cultures are not too different, the French speaking part of Belgium being the exception. I believe cultural similarity is a pre requisite for building unity.
So basically. germanic europe, save england
As a dutchman i agree.
Mission creep has been its downfall..
Churchill handed us on a plate to this agenda..
So reminiscent of the soviet propaganda films.
When Sweden joined the EU in 1994 half of all agriculture land was shut down. Farmers were payed to not farm.
Well the European Schools didn’t always have the desired effect.
Boris Johnson went to one.😊
If only, from the beginning, European nations had differentiated between pasports of the motherland, and passports of the empire, imagine if Europeans had free movement, yet europes boarders were safe from the waves of desperate migrants! We might have avoided Brexit and continued with this noble project.
"We will defend our Island, no mater what the cost may be" (W, Churchill)
And then the Ang£o-$axon empire struck back....with Nord $tream.