No, she never spoke to anyone doing research. However she would on occasion be asked to speak in some of my classes in school. Her witness testimony is listed in the Warren Commission Exhibit 1381. Her neme was Judy Johnson. She was standing at the Southeast corner of Elm St. She was standing at the small traffic light in front of the book depository & was so close to the curb that she could have touched the limousine as it passed by. She said Jackie & JFK were beautiful with big smiles. She then heard three explosions just seconds later. The mood of the crowd quickly turned to panic. She was just 20 years old at the time. She never believed Oswald did it. She never recalled ever seeing him at all during her time working there.
The most telling thing is that almost all the people right in front of the TSBD heard shots from the grassy knoll. The ridiculous explanation given are ecbos....that is not how echos work. The sound from the source will be a hundred time louder than echos coming off distant structures.
The cut-off fingers on Oswald’s backyard ‘picture’ wasn’t something I’d paid attention to before, but I’ll be darned. Proof that it was a touched-up photo.
No, it isn't. If I hold a rolled-up newspaper that way, my phalanges point towards my body. Which means that if a picture is taken as in the backyard picture, they aren't visible.
Whoever the host of Ms. Baker's talk is, he is extremely rude indeed. I've been watching City of Allen talks for a long time and haven't seen anything like this. He shouts her down when clearly she is in the midde of a story with a beginning, middle & end and yells, "Audience questions" at her. Later, again when she's in the middle of an interesting, important story, the host sudden yells, "Thank you Judith Baker". What the hell? I've never seen anything like it.
Perhaps he has caught some inconsistencies in her story as I myself have. She claimed in an earlier interview that LHO had driven her to Jackson. LHO did not drive nor own a car..
@@VinylToVideo It's not about inconsistencies or doubting Baker. Quite a few people don't believe Judith Baker. Why would anybody get her on a talk and a video episode just to harangue her because they don't believe her and want to show it this way like some kind of Chaplinesque farce? What do to if you don't believe her is to question her. If there are inconsistencies then you ask her, "Isn't x an inconsistency? What do you have to say about that?" You certainly don't treat someone how this host was treating this woman.
She is a credible witness, and people want to grill her to make sure. In my opinion she has passed the test. She knows too much and confirms a lot of ongoing research.
@@VinylToVideo What you suggest would be the worst possible "explanation" for the rudeness. If the man thinks there are inconsistencies, firstly that will be an opinion, a personal opinion. He is not a divine seer of what is or isn't true, nor a judge of jury over someone invited to speak in their own public talk. Regarding doubts, easily anyone doesn't know any full situation. So where there can seem to be inconsistencies there can also be explanations. There very often are. If you are having personal doubts then about anyone's testimony, properly you can't just shout them off the stage. Secondly, even if there were glaring inconsistencies, agreed in books by many experts, so beyond just personally held ideas, naturally there is still no right to shout anyone off the stage. This is, anyway, the murder of Kennedy we're talking about. The subject has been over decades and remains brim full of utter liars - deep state controller plants, people with fantastical tales (quite a number of people have admitted to be Kennedy's real assassin but they can't all have been), representatives of so-called polite, "positive" American society who desperately want to bury the embarrassment and unseemliness associated with with a shocking murder of an elected president. Whoever it is, including the biggest liars in the world (and God knows some of the most determinedly dishonest people in the world have talked and published a lot on the subject of JFK) - if they've been given a talk that means they talk and should not be be shouted down.
@@VinylToVideo He did so drive, and was a good driver, though he never owned a car or driver's license. In checking out Ms. Baker's story, numerous researchers found witnesses to Lee driving Judith around, in a number of different vehicles. He somehow had access to vehicles in New Orleans. Remember, Lee's family had deep connections to both the mob and the 🥸 agency, as did Lee himself. Read the book.
I think Ruth Payne played more of a part in the plot than has been talked about. She got lee a job at the SBD and again, how many people in the 60’s just wanted to learn Russian?
To understand Ruth Paine and her motivation, it is important to remember she is a Quaker, AKA The Religious Society of Friends. Quakers believe we are all children of God. Quakers value all people equally, and oppose anything that may harm or threaten them, war for example. They place great value in education. Historically they are one of the first religious organizations to officially oppose slavery and embrace Darwin's theory of evolution. They believe peace is reached by understanding ones enemies through dialogue and outreach. Post WWII America considered Russia its greatest threat. The obvious Quaker response was an attempt to understand Russians through outreach and open dialogue. Open dialogue requires the ability to speak and understand Russian, so Ruth tried to learn Russian. It's that simple.
@@akumar7366 yes, wasnt he the guy who was positively identified in the 2nd floor breakroom by his boss Mr Truly and Dallas PD 75-90 seconds after murder of Kennedy while having a coke as they proceeded to the 6th fl. If thats who you mean he didnt fire a single shot. After shooting he went home to get his pistol, he knew he was "it" if he was going to murder the leader of the free world wouldn't you think he would take his pistol too? In summation if LHO thought there was going to be a problem at work on the 22nd he would have brought his pistol, he didnt, that tells me he wasnt anticipating any problems that day, he was low level government he knew the score why else use the term "patsy" which implies a setup. He knew enough to use that term plus no prints on rifle till after death, and on and on.
J Edgar Hoover wanted to know who was impersonating LHO in Mexico at Cuban Conculet while he had him under investigation in New Orleans for running guns for anti Castro Malitia.
I really believe this lady, this is truth because it makes sense for the first time, shame on you America for not listening, this lady deserves a medel for having the guts standing there with her heart in her hands for all to criticize, god bless you, PLEASE stay safe, x
And your proof!!!!!! Are you waking up yet America, !!!!!!! How many more people have to die for your cover-ups, all lies are the basics of evil and that's how the world thinks about your country and the morals of the people in responsible positions, your not the Great US of A anymore, you shouldn't of shot JFK, people who are bourn now judge you America on how you've treated good people of the past!!!!!!!
@@tyoungtara3639 I think there was a conspiracy.by whom I don't know,israel,mafia,cia defense industry? Who knows but jfk may not have been all you think he was,like maybe he was an internatist globalist just like the rest.my proof about her being a con well it's just a feeling I've studied jfk assassin ation since 1980.yes I feel she is not lee oswald's lover.i think that she is very beneficial to getting the truth out about the bad things that our leaders etc do.mist of her info is from other records that I've known about since the 80 s.
@Std Disclaimer She is well versed in all the alternative assassination theories, but my gut tells me she cannot be fully trusted. She may very well be a part of the puzzle, but I am not convinced.
I believe Oswald was totally innocent. A 24 year old man framed and his reputation trashed. A lot of unproven assertions abound on the Internet about him, like he shot Tipet when the fact is that is an unsolved case.
@Dave M Where do I begin? I could write a hundred pages on this topic. Start with the so called evidence against him and the improbability of the existence of that evidence. It is juvenile. Look up the details surrounding the purchase of the rifle, an obvious frame up job.
Way too much evidence against oswald and nothing from you all, only hearsay. The comments are all written by children it appears. CIA would have had her killed. The Mafia were not stupid enough to kill a president. Is it normal that we kill someone we hate? No it is not. This woman is merely another sensation seeker selling books. She has no insight and her evidence is nonsense.
Completely agree. I think he thought he was working for the CIA, as an operative. I think he was duped after he was no longer useful. Dulles and all involved are horrible, horrible people and I think they are still operating today, after their deaths.
The fact is that he gunned down Officer Tippet unless you want to call all the witnesses and evidence liars, he ducked into the Theatre to hide without buying a ticket, he then punched Officer McDonald in the face when he was asked to stand up and then tried to shoot him, all the actions of an innocent man for sure….not!
Remember this woman is 68 who kept her mouth shut for 45 years fearing for her life . At that age she will be a little disoriented but still provided some good facts .
@Robert Panetta: She should have done us all a favor and "kept her mouth shut" even longer, instead of concocting this laughable Oswaldian fantasy narrative 35 years after the fact. Baker has no reason to have ever feared for her life; though she does live in holy terror of the relentless diligence of fact checkers.
@@BAFFLED-u4o You don't believe it because you don't want to believe it. It's disturbing to come to grips with the FACT that our own government played a part in disposing of JFK. I denied it to myself for years til I did the research.
@@BAFFLED-u4oIt's a FACT that they were in N.O. at the same time. It's a Fact that they worked at Reily Coffee Co. At the same time. It's a Fact that they both worked on a research project under Dr. Mary Sherman at the same time. It's a Fact that they both knew David Ferries and Jack Ruby. Why would it be " absurd " for them to have had an affair?
It’s because they know she is full of it…. she didn’t come forward until she saw the movie JFK lol and did a little research. Actually her ex had said it started after she found out Oswald briefly worked at the coffee company in N.O. and didn’t remember him lol
The first time I heard about Judith was in 1959 she was all over the news and in the paper. A senior in high school who they said was a genius that she found a breakthrough in what caused cancer. I was 12 yrs. Old
They say that time heals every pain. But the pain that was caused without explanation, without apology, that is a wound that never really heals. Mrs. Baker has been enduring such a pain for her whole life and she has my deepest sympathy. Respects and thanks for sharing this important part of her life and truth. Writing a book takes a lot of time effort. People who think that you get rich by publishing a book should try it themselves... Thank You, Mrs. Judyth Vary Baker, for giving us additional insight into this officially unresolved murder! You and other brave people like You help us connect the dots and therefore better understand the World we are living in. Greetings from Slovenia.
I believe her. She is the first person I've seen who actually ties in everything, brings all of the info to the front and speaks it out loud. Good on 'ya Judyth!
Where is the 1st part of this video??? It seems as if she had been talking for some time to the audience because of some references she makes during this part of the video. Where is the beginning???
@@psmith9789: She may be the last living person with direct knowledge of players in the event!!! Is it any wonder that she lives in constant fear? No doubt, she has committed her knowledge to some kind of 'living affidavit', to be opened only upon her expiration.
As long as THE SWAMP feels THEY can make/ let YOU APPEAR UNSTABLE/ INSIGNIFICANT..THEY'RE NOT TOO WORRIED WHAT You're SAYING!.. ESPECIALLY DECADES AFTER THE FACT!.. AFTER ALL.. THEY GOT DONE.. WHAT THEY WANTED DONE! IF WHAT SHE SPEAKS IS TRUE .... She wouldn't be the first person 4 THEM to SCRUB (tweek) HER PAST! PS.. Just look around TODAY & see our U S Government's alphabet departments(CIA,FBI,DOJ, SCOTUS etc.) BEHAVIOR towards IT'S CITIZENS!... RULES FOR THEE DON'T APPLY TO ME!... Nothing to see here Folks!... MOVE ALONG!
@@psmith9789 at first your put down of her made sense for a second, but then I thought about (2 seconds later) and realized your reasoning lacking. Don't do anything wrong because if you had to hide I'd give you about 30 minutes at best. If you have information that's bad for your health if it gets out the best way to survive is to get it out! If its out then the damage has been done and there is nothing to silence. Revenge is a whole northern matter!
I used to work in Allen, Texas. Nice town. Great library. Pleased your library is sponsoring these amazingly memorable lectures on the Assassination. Good job!
I think this would have been better if they had sat down and asked her questions that she could answer and kept her on track, she clearly knows what she's talking about and I think she would be fascinating in that setting as opposed to standing up there and jumping from topic to topic.
I read her book, and it is extremely detailed and has the ring of truth. The cancer related parts are in my opinion even more significant than the Oswald information.
@@amandajayne2619 Yes, that was an eye opener. Roswell Park where Judyth Baker was taken to train, is here in WNY. Interesting is that someone I know that has worked there told a researcher there, that was now a patient with cancer: 'Get better doc, so you can find a cure.' The doctor told him wistfully, gesturing to the impressive facility: 'What about all this? They would never let me reveal it if I did.'
@@09rja When she was in high school she was so far advanced in cancer research that the head of the Roswell Park Cancer Institute took her there to help them.
If there is a person who knew Oswald lee the best it is definitely HER....at the beginning was confuse since found records he had a wife, but then I got it. She knew more about his profession than his own wife. The way she easily remembers and connects terms and chronology of past events is Amazing, that is a proof that she was a real confident of Oswald Lee, and the fact that she had to hide her entirely life just to make sure she could spread the word of the true about Oswald lee ( he was only a PATSY definitely), is a huge symbol of true love.
Misogyny rules New Orleans. I believe it is still under Napoleanic Code and women cannot operate without father, husband or brother's signatures in some matters. O'Toole wrote, Confederacy of Dunces, and his mother had great difficulty getting it published after his death due to her gender.
Unless you read Me and Lee, David Ferrie, and Mary's Monkey, you can't fairly assess this woman's point of view. Part of the reason for Ed Haslam writing Mary's Monkey, was to confirm or discredit Judyth Vary's story. Mostly it is confirmed. Granted, she comes across as a little bit nutty. But that is not the point. She has some details a bit mixed up. To be expected, after 50 years. Her opinion of LHO is biased. Also to be expected. Bottom line is. LHO was up to something, but it certainly was not killing JFK.
Edward Haslam wrote Dr. Mary’s Monkey before even knowing about Judyth Vary Baker...The original name of his book was Mary, Ferrie and the Monkey Virus...and it wasn’t written as an inquiry into the assassination but as an investigation of the death of Mary Sherman at the Patio Apartments in New Orleans... He was put in touch with Judy Baker by the news program 60 Minutes...He (Ed Haslam) was questioning whether she had read Mary, Ferrie and the Monkey Virus and was attempting to put herself into the story....
Ruth was cia all the way....mr paine bailed on ruth and one or two young children as soon as maria and Lee showed up. Mr paine worked for Bell helicopter Corp. Completely owned and operated by the feds. I doubt in 63 a man working for such a government owned company could leave a wife and small children. It a security risk .
@@randyjohnson6845 According to Ruth Paine, she and her husband moved back in together after the assassination and did not divorce until 1970. Five people -- eventually six and sometimes seven -- living in a tiny two-bedroom house (Paine and her two children in one bedroom, Marina, June, occasionally Lee and eventually the infant Rachel in the other bedroom), just so that Mrs. Paine could speak Russian with Marina? Give me a break.
Thanks Judith for being So Brave & telling your Story; it proves to us that Lee Oswald was Not the assassin, & he's been wrongly convicted in the news media for so many years, but now, thanks to you, we Finally know the truth about Lee.
Thomas Parnell, So, having the last name as Lee, has its ups and downs. As a young boy, I had no clue who he was until the name was thrust out put in my history class by the teacher. Yeah, every kid in the place turned there eyes my way, lol. There I was with an infamous name and knowing my classmates were going to harass the crap out of me. I enlisted in the Navy between my junior and senior years of high school and was still awaiting y final approval. My physical was good, my test scores were good, and all I needed to leave for boot camp upon my graduation was my swearing in. Something wasn’t right so I called my recruiter as he was trying hard to get me sworn in and off to boot camp upon my graduation. Finally they gave me the green light to do my swearing in. On my way to the Denver MEPS building my recruiter told me why it took so long. Even though he asked y parents many questions, it was because my last name. They had to do a more intense background because of my last name! Because of my last name, I’ve become an avid fan of the whole mess of the assassination. I call it a mess because I think there’s so many layers to this just like an onion. I think if someone had all the real proof, at the center of the onion we’d find a very corrupt government that was in bed with several others players. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth but as we have started peeling the onion, I really think Lee was used as a patsy/pawn. I think they put him the spots/situation that later could be used to point a false finger at him.
I bought her book and her story is amazing. she has documentation on all the events and it goes something like this. she was a remarkable achiever and a brain that by fate was introduced in to the government/ mafia connection to assassinate castro. lee played many roles in line with the government/ maffia and you never really understood who was pulling his chain. bay of pigs happen which was a fiasco for project mongoose. the same hit team used to kill castro has now focused to kill jfk. it seems men died on the beach as kennedy was suppose to provide air support........... and he didnt. so at dallas, it was payback time. she talks about lee oswald at every step weeks before the assassination in dallas. and i believe in her story.
@Std Disclaimer I believe her more than I believe the ,9/11 planes brought down the towers and of course the ongoing trump and his party. Seems like everything is a cover up or cover your ass when just speaking the truth is so simple in that one doesn't have to remember all the lies. Exhausting.
@Std Disclaimer Of all the interest and reading on JFK's assasination I have never heard of this woman and she does not come off to me as credible at all! but rather trying to insert herself into a kind of helpless bystander. Why in the hell didnt she say something if she was that close to the conspiracy? BS on her attempt at immortality.
My dad was born in 1937.. in 1940 he got polio. He was hospitalized for a long time and his after care was long. He’s said he hated going to the doctors that there was always a bunch of doctors touching him to the point he felt like an experiment. 1951 he got bone cancer in the leg he had contracted polio in…His leg was amputated at 13..He as well got prostate cancer. He wouldn’t allow my mother to take us to doctors… the school vaccinated me. They lied about the time line of cancer in the vaccines … they said 1955 to 1964… all lies. I think my dad spent his whole life angry about the lies they told repeatedly through the years!!!
hi,If I rem.correctly the cancer that was in the tainted polio vaccines were in the shots given via the needle and not the sugar cube?So what was the true time line of the cancer in the vaccines?I think all this is written about in the book Doctor Mary's Monkeys?I rem.also Dr.Oschner who was head of the program that Judyth was in gave the shot to his grandchild just to prove it was safe and tragically the child died.
Maybe a book by Ed Haslam - "Dr Mary's Monkey" could shed some light on the affects of polio vaccine given to millions of American children in the 50s.
Two Question I have is: 1)If Lee Osward or whom ever, did do it..Why not shoot Kennedy when he was coming down Houston Street...? No Trees...Light Posts...Road Signs...and it a straight road....plus the motor pool was coming towards the shooter and the Secret Service were behind Kennedy...S.S. couldn't block any shots.... besides, if the shooter miss..then he can always try again for Elm St...in which in my mind..would be a harder target to hit. 2) There was chicken bones and Dr. Pepper Bottle found at the snipers nest. Is this still saved..? and can we get DNA off them..? After all, Oswald still has living daughters. (Oswald was drinking Coke Cola on the 2nd floor) Also to note, Wesley Buell Frazier drove Oswald to work that day and he stated, Oswald had no lunch. 1927 the FBI, U.S. Government poison drinking alcohol during Prohibition. it took 75 years to know that "Truth' 1963 JFK was killed.. We The Pesky Citizens have to wait till 2039 (75 Years) to know the 'Truth" 2001 America was attack... again.. We The Pesky Citizens and the rest of the world have to wait to 2076 (75 years) to know the 'Truth" Thousands of people said that they saw UFO's. Government said.."No You didn't...it was swamp gas". Today Government says.."Yep..There are UFO's." Maybe by 2076... The People just might..."Question Your Government"... Maybe.
Oswald was part of James Jesus Angleton's Returned Defector program. And weirdly enough, two of the other Returned Defectors closely resembled LHO. As Garrison said in one of his noon round table meetings with his investigators, "that makes six Oswalds. And J. Edgar Hoover himself said someone was using his identity while the real Lee Oswald was overseas."
Thank you for letting some of the people here learn this because she was not totally clear on this. I know she cannot answer to save her life so she beat around the bush.
that is very interesting and i did not know or hear of that. they claimed they had photos of LHO in mexico city and people claimed they saw the photos. none of them resembled LHO.
Judith, you are a great lady. I love your book, allow me to say you are a very precious lady. You did deserve his love. I am sorry you two were not allowed to stay together. Life is very strange and can only be understood from a spiritual level. I believe Lee had a good heart. He just got involved with those who every young person needs to make a B line around. I can see he had several bruises on his face before Ruby did this horrible act against Lee. I hope you have received much inner very deep healing from the harm you had to endure. Be blessed !
In 1992, I was one of 1st to get Microsoft set top box. Someone on internet asked if anyone believed Lee was lone gunman, I said only Fools believe that, next thing I was cut off the internet and Microsoft wouldn't answer why?
I think this is common in the JFK conspiracy scene - there's this huge jockeying for truth kind of like paparazzi. So they cut off people, in the chase to be the "first" to find out the truth. hahahaha.
I'm reading her book. I find it fascinating, and although I do not doubt she had a relationship with Oswald I find myself wondering whether, for some reason, Oswald was actually tasked to keep an eye on her.
She is so full of shit, that it's coming out of her Mouth. Shameful and despicable. 100% chance Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in Killing JFK. I hate this horsehshit
Because she arrived earlier than was supposed to in New Orleans, whoever the cia handlers were, put Oswald with Baker to watch and make sure she stayed out of trouble & off the radar. Don't let the movie ''JFK'' ruin everything. Oliver Stone makes it look like Ferrie hated Kennedy & wanted to kill him... David Ferrie may have been gay but like Oswald, he was also a Patriot.. A good book to read is Dr Mary's Monkey by Edward T Haslam. Ed puts a lot of detail in the book. In fact, it was Jim Marrs & the TV Show, 60 Minutes that brought Judyth Vary Baker to the attention of Ed Haslam. That's why his first book was called, Mary, Ferrie & The Monkey Virus. Haslam knew that there was a woman involved with Dr Mary Sherman, David Ferrie & Lee Oswald, he just didn't know who she was, plus all three of those people were killed, leaving Judyth Baker as the only one still alive.... Once she contacted Haslam and proved she was part of everything going on in New Orleans, he knew that he had enough evidence/information to write Dr Mary's Monkey..... It's amazing how all of this unfolded. Once you read Judyth Baker book & Ed Haslam's book, you'll know without a doubt that Lee Oswald was not involved with President Kennedy's assassination.
Jmo: Oswald was a plant and the expendable fall guy. He was part of the assassin ring then hired at the TDSB then brought up the rifle for one of the assassins and was told to go down to the lunch room and wait. When he was reportedly seen in the lunch room holding a soda his hands were not visibly shaking? He just shot at the President he hangs around too and calm and collected too?? I don’t think so. Then the gun is left with shell casings lined up neatly to be found? As well he was not tried and convicted in a proper court of law so him being the lone assassin is speculation.
Hope you are doing well, Judyth. Hope that the expanded book printing has come off without a hitch. Let us know something. We are concerned about you. Today is Nov. 18, 2022.
We bought her book, "Me & Lee" along with Ed Haslam's "Dr Mary's Monkey" as each book confirms/backs up info in the other. Thankful to have them before one or both are scissored if you get my meaning. Get them both while you still can.
You all need to read her books. They are well, very well documented and organized. She's now an older lady with health issues, and jumps from topics to topics...and it can seem unorganized on tape, but it's untrue. She's the real deal.
I believe so. She was a teen age prodigy on the cutting edge of cancer at the time. How many you know of those? Well documented with numerous photos and newspaper articles in Lee And Me. When she gets to New Orleans it is so spooky and bizarre...
Her take on the cancer industry and ochsner is verrryyy interesting.....scary....remember they were going to try to kill castro....maybe by injecting him with cancer....just like ruby when he claimed they injected him with cancer. In prison......too many coincidences regarding ' cancer research'
This lady fought for your country yet some of you are reud and downright incorrigible. I guess your mothers didn't raise you well enough to teach you that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Just bad upbringing, I guess. Shame! Plus you have to know this comment section is full of trolls! Everything she said checks out. Do some research if you don't believe me.
Most people don't believe Judyth. I read her book, and did my own research. Not to get too lengthy, but I also lived in N.O. for a short time. My friends knew some of the people she mentioned (Dr. Ochsner, etc). The thing that made me a believer was a very small, subtle detail. There's a part of her book, I'm not sure exactly where now, but she claims she was in a car, taking a trip with LHO, and someone else, going to Mandeville, or someplace across Lake Pontchartrain. She said they stopped at a house, and her fellow passengers went up to the door to talk to a woman. She couldn't see her face, nor the woman could see hers. Later, there was an interview with that lady, and she confirmed that when LHO came to visit her (I think it was with D. Ferrie) she said that there was a lady in the car with them who just stayed in the car. EXACTLY as she described the situation! That just got the bells ringing in my head. A chance encounter, but clearly and accurately documneted by a 3rd party. The "slam dunk" would've been if she could have taken just ONE picture with her and LHO. Anyway, I think she is a fascinating lady, and I'm a fan of her. Hopefully, one day all the JFK truth will be revealed. Thanks for reading and stay safe.
Yes. The confirmations of just about everything Judyth has said keep coming out. She is for real I think. Even Roger Stone, who wrote a book on the JFK assassination, thinks she is for real.
Yes, but someone as smart (as her promoters profusely like to burnish her credentials) as Judyth would know enough to massively research her topic, including finding the "interview with that lady", and back-engineer the encounter and textually embed herself in the encounter.
The interview with his landlady in New Orleans said the whole time he was there, he only worked for a few weeks and then he was always at home just sitting around and reading. He didn't make calls. When he was at the Payne's he did the same. No one ever called him and he never made calls.
I read the Warren Commission testimony of Oswald's neighbors in New Orleans the other day and there was one couple who had been Ma and Lee's landlords when he was a teen and they met him again when he came down in sixty three. And the husband in this couple said Lee dressed shabby and lived in a very low rent apartment. Not a nice place for his family. So he did not believe stories about Lee getting money from various sources. Unfortunately, the interview did not include what stories he had heard in those early days.
"Now everyone will know I am." Now I know it's been said it was said as a boast, but he wasn't saying it as a boast. It was more like- like when you catch someone in a building at night, and they're angry that they've been caught. Like his cover had been blown. -Roger Craig
Without watching the whole lecture, did jack ruby's cancer have anything to do with their cancer research? No need to apologize to the crowd if it's the truth.
Judyth is a hero! The book is long and detailed . . . . a bit hard to follow at some places. There is a lot of her emotion which comes through clearly . . . . she is very human indeed. But it is well documented and I, for one, believe Judyth. This video makes a lot of sense after reading the book; much easier to follow after the read. I am a long standing JFK investigator and, believe me, this wonderful lady is right on the money. Thank you Judyth!!
Try to understand Marina's situation. A russian immigrant with a very weak grasp of English. Has 2 young daughters, and a husband accused of murdering JFK. The fbi, secret service, Dallas PD. Et al. All questioning her. Probably badgering her. Threatening her with deportation,etc. I think she told them what they wanted (or thought they wanted) to hear. She was petrified I would think.
Man in backyard photo originally was leaning on something. As shown, his posture is unnatural, chin is different plus Lee had about 3 people around him who closely resembled him. Too many things do not add up. Add here different rifle, convenient killing by Ruby, etc.
Yes, I purchased and read her entire book. Judyth Baker's son was interviewed afterwards and said the book was "at best, fictional history." I agree. (While she claims to have been present in many of the historical events, there is no film footage or photo of her. Nor does anyone remember her. Goodness. Did she make the whole thing up?)
Look up "Richard Keith Nagel" and a book, "The Man Who Knew Too Much". This will really, really, confuse things. Nagel was an alleged triple agent (?) and he was tasked with stalking Oswald. He also knew Oswald in the Marines in Japan. Nagel got himself arrested by shooting a bullet into the ceiling of a bank....so he would be in jail on the date of the assassination. He apparently gave a warning about the coming "Big Event" to authorities. This guy is the wild card in the deck.
LHO PASSED the paraffin test was no gun powder residue on him at all and trust me if he shot that rifle he would have had residue all over him! Poorly made highly inaccurate junk Italian rifle , I do believe James E. Files Was the one who took the fatal shot with the Remington XP-100 bolt action pistol in .221 fireball and at the time were only 2 prototypes and the CIA had both of them at that time I watched that interview with Files that some danish guy had out for a while and his body language was quite telling and the ballistics info on that last head shot was spot on the way they head shot hit a carcano in no way could have done that kind of damage from the book suppository angle so I believe his story,and also the “Mary’s Mosiac “ author a story on Mary Pinchot Myers murder and the guy who did Dorthy Kilgarin story they were both whacked no doubt about it never heard of this woman before not that it matters we are never ever going to get the true story ever that’s how the spooks work it’s a jigsaw puzzle within a rubics cube.
It was definitely a rifle not curtain rods - why did he return to his wife's out of town house unusually on the Thursday and not on the normal Friday for a weekend at home - not just for curtain rods surely ? - his rented room in town already had curtains. Plus he was already pissed at FBI agent not returning his call a few days, before when he maybe wrongly thought the guy was harassing his wife The rifle advert shows it was 36", (not 42" as some have said) and stripped down it may have been 29" - and close to the 2 feet his neighbour driver stated after a quick glance over his shoulder in his car that morning, and would fit along the inside of his arm when walking. This is a strange way to carry a long narrow parcel unless you want to hide it. Plus he had plenty time to reassemble it (20 mins? afterwards hiding the screwdriver anywhere inside the huge building or taking it with him for defense), during the 4 hours after he arrived at work at 8 am and on the 6th floor making up orders and sorting a simple sniper nest and long wall using maybe only 30 or more small boxes. If he did not fire then he should have seen the shooter who had no time to sort the boxes, plus why leave quickly and pick up a handgun ? He was a Walter Mitty character, slight links to everyone - mafia, then army, CIA in Japan, Russia, both pro and contra Castro-groups - he was too calm at the police station, patsy or not. UNLESS he was supplying a gun and sniper nest for someone else. - there was at least one other detective or security man wandering about inside before the shooting - and hence the failed call to Raleigh ex CIA man almost 36 hours after the shooting when he realized he had been duped
WHY does this description of this video state that "L. H. Oswald's name will always be shrouded in infamy" ?? Isn't the whole point of posting this video to change that ?? Jeez.
While I doubt the official narrative and I believe the plot to assassinate Castro, Judith’s story isn’t completely credible. In her interview on The Men Who Killed Kennedy, she didn’t manage to squeeze out one tear. She claimed he was the love of her life and at times paused saying she couldn’t go on. Yet, she didn’t cry. Also, she claims that she and Oswald held off on being intimate because of their marriage commitments yet she admitted she wouldn’t have married her husband if she could have married Lee and Lee beat his wife. They didn’t sound like they were all that committed to their spouses. Lastly, the part that didn’t ring true was that they told everyone they hung out with about the plot. If you’re cooking up a plot to kill a foreign head of state, wouldn’t you want to keep the details quiet? I think she met a few of the people and maybe even participated in some experiments. But I think the love affair was fantasy fan fiction. Even her friends said she was a gullible and naive.
The details of how they met doesn't quite ring comfortably with me..both of them just happen to be in line together in the post office, the dropped newspaper, and to top it off, she speaks Russian to a total stranger in New Orleans...Why? And then the guy just happens to speak Russian? This just doesn't pass the smell test. I think she's sincere about her story in general, but that first meeting....
Never heard of that book Deborah, is it a good read & would it tie into what Judyth Baker talked about here? Reason I ask is a lot of this interview gets scrambled up by her jumping around questions...
@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. I have a subscription to C2Cam. I can do a search on it to see when she was interviewed and also any guests that may be associated with her. I should watch this episode here again to refresh my memory. Thanks for the idea...... Although Baker usually sounds like she's telling the truth, from time-to-time she'll jump around a lot, where it could be viewed that she avoids, or dodges answering some of the questions she's asked.... Funny thing is, I just read an article that is 14 years to the day, (when I read it, July 30th, 2007.)By a Dr. Brobson Lutz, an MD out of New Orleans, Louisiana, (of all places.) He talks about Dr Mary Sherman and the book written by Edward Haslam about her. I also recall hearing back in the Mid to Late 1990's about AID's coming out of Africa, and that it jumped from Monkeys to Humans... I could go on & on about Sherman but one thing I do find that makes her death unique is her birth & death. I'm not into numerology but if you subtract her birth date from her death date, you get 51. Same age as she was at the time of death.. Now that's a Rabbit Hole I'm not gonna go down lol.......
There's a lot of consistency in these conspiracy theorists. Dorothy Kilgallen, Mary Meyers and a lot of other people who died in mysterious circumstances or killed themselves in odd ways.
Did anyone bother to ask Marina if she had made curtains for Oswald’s room? Did anyone examine his room to see if there were curtain rods already installed in the room?
Good question. I also wonder about the curtain rod thing. I remember from Judyth's book that Lee knew, after the plot against Castro had failed, that he'd be used as the patsy in Kennedy's murder. "Maybe I can fire off a warning shot and get him to duck," Lee told Judyth. So was there really a firearm in that brown bag for that purpose?
I saw an interview she had done about 25 years ago. She recounted the meeting at the post office with no mention of the Russian aspect. I think that is something she has embellished over the years. I mean who would out of the blue say something in Russian as a pickup line?
I picked up on the same. She said he picked up the papers that she dropped and asked if he could walk her home. Now to give her some benefit of doubt it could be that she left out certain aspects of the story since she probably told it quite a few times, yet I now do feel a but more apprehensive about her claims
No, it was in Ed Haslams work notes for when he wrote Dr. Marys Monkey, and its included in that. That book came out in 2007, and is also in his notes prior to, for that book.
Judyth, be blessed and stay safe all the days of your life. You are so very special. I am sure you know this but it always helps to hear it again from someone else. It is just amazing to hear the evidence of eyewitnesses who were ignored by the Warren Comission. Of course that was not done by accident for sure.
I agree she needs to hear it from her supporters bc she gets more from her detractors. Thank you to Judyth for speaking up. You are brave. You set aside your privacy even your dignity and reputation to bring us the truth.
I was at Lucas B&B Restaurant readomg an assasonation book on JKF in the 70's and a watress asked me what I was reading. After I told her she said very frankly she never forgot faces, and that one evening she had served both Jack Ruby and LH Oswald. I believe her totally,
CT's won't ever answer that question because the answer is that she is a fraud and no one in the government ever gave a shit what she said. At best she is a performance artist, a story teller. More likely a grifter who found her niche hustle and milks it's teat as a lifestyle.@@paulmanly3694
Very interesting lady.She did make a statement that JFK was targeted for assassination at either love field, dealey Plaza or the trade mart. Not disputing the claim but would love to know her source.
Why was Lee working in the Book Depository on the upper floors? Why did he leave after the killing while everyone else stayed? Why did he kill Tippit? Why did he try to hide in the theatre? How could Tippit's murder have been set up when no one knew where he would be dispatched and even if they did, how did they know exactly where he would encounter Lee on the street? Lee was taking an erratic path. And to send in random witnesses from the neighbourhood? How the HELL could that all have been planned and in what timeframe? Come on, people, think about it! These witnesses were longtime residents of the area. If Lee had not killed Kennedy why run and why kill Tippit? Obviously Lee was mixed up with a mess of characters but the plain facts are still there. And there is hard evidence against Lee. This is just clouding an issue that just can't be explained-- namely all the questions I just listed. Smoke and mirrors.
1) It is not at all clearly and without doubt established that there is a link between the Tippit murder and LHO. What is clear is that not only Lee's behaviour and Tippit's behaviour after the murder were strange. Tippit clearly was on the look out for someone, making a car stop, checking the space between front and back seats, trying to phone someone.... To prove Tippit was shot by LHO, a witness had to be found who saw someone running the 9/10th of a mile between the scene of the crime to the theatre where LHO was arrested, otherwise you have a chronology problem. No such witness came forward. Just assuming LHO had to be the murderer is not good enough, as there are also contradicting elements 2) Lee's behaviour after the murder are indeed strange. The conclusions connected to that strange behaviour though can go in very different directions. Either they are a "proof" that he was the murderer, either that he slowly started to piece together things and add 2 and 2 together, either that someone had instructed him to do exactly what he did. I don't know which of the 3 broad possibilities is the right one, there are elements that could pointing to either of these 3. It was odd he remained in the building (being rather in favour of JFK as some people claim he was), it was odd he was sipping a Coke when the first policeman rushed into the TSBD, it was odd he was not curious to see what happened outside, but in stead went to his place, got a revolver, went to a movie, forgetting (?) to pay while he had enough money with him, it was odd he said "This is it" when he was arrested etc etc. It all was very weird behaviour, but it is unclear what that fact really means. He clearly was involved in something, either as an active participant, as the sole participant (but how did he manage the "trick" with the Coke in the TSBD in such a short time ?), as a decoy, a patsy... His odd behaviour in the months prior to the assassination point to him being part of "something bigger". The attention seeking actions as his (staged ?) clash with anti Castro Cubans (and just by coïncidence, someone was there to film it all), his weird radio interview, the did he or didn't he visit the Cuban embassy thing and the did or didn't the CIA camera's caught him or not on film. (Was the 30 something old man leaving the embassy ever identified ?) 3) I tend to think he was part of a conspiracy, either as an active participant, either as an infiltrator. The strongest indication for that is the completely unnecessary, potentially dangerous odd turns on Dealy Plaza that were added to the route the presidential limousine took. This was against all security rules, had no real PR relevance (it is not as if there were thousands of people gathered on Dealey Plaza), was added at the last minute by someone whose powerful brother had been fired by JFK etc etc. If this wouldn't have been added, it would have been even less plausible for LHO to shoot the president with a weapon that sucked in a record time. (Furthermore an easily traceable weapon, while LHO could have bought without trouble one that wasn't traceable). Lee bringing "curtain rods" to the TSBD.... Mausers becoming Mannlicher Carcano's. Palm prints appearing where they weren't there before. Magic bullets.... I mean.... If it would have rained that day, the bubble top would have been on the presidential limousine. If the odd Dealey Plaza curbs wouldn't have been added at the last minute to the route followed by the presidential limousine, killing the president from the TSBD would have needed even more magical bullets. If there would have been Secret Service men on the presidential limousine, that too would have made things more difficult. (One agent who thought it was indeed the intention to give the limousine close protection was seen to retreat in disbelief at the airfield, when his superior asked him to back down, and get into another car in stead) If the normal security procedures would have been followed on Dealey Plaza, there wouldn't have been an open window in the TSBD etc etc. I can understand that one, two, three people didn't do their job 100 % during such an event. Here we get systematically people doing things that are not "normal", and that sum of small or enigmatic "errors" only made the assassination possible. Finally: if LHO was the oddball with confused political ideas and an unlucky marriage, if he really was that disgrunted figure some people have turned him in to, why didn't he proudly shouted that, yes, he, Lee Harvey Oswald had killed the president ? The assassin of Abraham Lincoln would have done so. Here we get someone who says he hasn't been accused of the murder of JFK "YET", and who claims he is a "patsy". Not exactly the proud, well trained or highly motivated communist terrorist. Not a Rote Armee Fraction fanatic, claiming proudly and with high pitched voice, Yes, I killed the most powerful man on Earth. It simply doesn't make sense. There are faaaaaaar too many "coïncidences" to make a lone nut scenario plausible. The way the case was researched by the police, the Secret Service, the FBI etc afterwards also points to something far bigger. The way LHO was killed afterwards too. I admit we still don't know who were the real shooters, that it is not possible to bring a "case closed" scenario that prooves beyond any doubt whatsoever who killed JFK. But simple gut feeling and arithmetics are enough to make a lone nut theory far less credible than a double conspiracy: the assassination and the cover up afterwards. The Dealey Plaza last minute changes alone are a terribly strong indication. Which leads to who could add these changes, and to the question why. The changes only made sense for one very specific goal: to frame Oswald. All other reasons make no sense whatsoever.
Have you been living under a rock? The cia & fbi were the first to start spreading misinformation & disinformation around. Oswald didn't kill anyone. He had a cia handler, just like David Ferrie did. Oswald knew he was already in trouble for calling in the Chicago fbi office telling them about an assassination that was planned there. The cia had a list of people who probably called the fbi & Oswald was probably on the top of the list.. That's old news now anyway. Oswald was never on an upper floor. He even Passed a Paraffin Test, which means He Didn't Fire A Weapon. And that Mauser they found on the 6th floor, it came from Argentina. They were licensed to make the model Mauser found there. No one fired that shitty Carcano Model 38 infantry carbine that was planted there. The one Oswald supposedly bought. **Why would someone order a carbine, through the mail, have it shipped to a Local Post Office, Then go & pick it up & the whole time, leave a gigantic paper trail while living in the same state, where you could walk into any gun shop, buy any type of semi automatic rifle without any ID & then, just walk out the door. No one is that stupid, However- **The only people Dumber than that, are the people who believe Oswald actually did that.... *Remember The Bay Of Pigs, the cia operation? The cia bought Argentinian made Mausers to arm the Cuban's that defected/actually Fled to Miami & were willing to go back to Cuba & fight Fidel Castro & his troops..... The cia used those type of carbines so if any of the Cuban's that the cia trained were caught, Cuba couldn't trace them back to the US/cia.... Just Argentina..... Why from Argentina? Because the main doctor in New Orleans that Dr Mary Sherman worked under. His name was Alton Oschner, and he had an office in New Orleans setup so Leaders from Central & South America could be seen by a Top-Notch Doctor. They came to new Orleans because the medical treatment was so much better/advanced. A South American Leader could get to New Orleans faster than most Americans could. There was a Dallas Police car that stopped at Lee Oswald's house, honked the horn 2 times. That meant, ''Go To The Theater'' which was a rally point. His New Orleans cia handler was supposed to have him picked up so he could leave. The only problem was, they decided to make him the fall-guy for the assassination & with the help of crocked cops, they went there, beat the shit out of him, arrested him & without any legal assistance, questioned Oswald But Kept No Record of what was said. Then even when they knew he had nothing to do with shooting Officer Tippett, they pinned on him, along with President Kennedy's death. Talk about clearing a Court Docket Fast... Oswald: Lee Oswald was in the Marines. He spent time in Japan on a US Base, where U-2 Spy Planes were based. When the cia came looking for men that wanted to serve their country by doing work for the cia, Oswald said yes he would do that. He Learned Russian. He worked with cia for about 5-6 years. Don't listen to all the misinformation. Read Ed Haslam's book, ''Dr Mary's Monkey''. Once you read it, then you'll be able to see, Lee Oswald was a Patriot, not a ''Real'' Russian Sympathizer, or an Assassin....
@cobar53 Interesting theory I've never heard before. If LHO was the designated patsy it's plausible they would have a plan to eliminate him before he could escape the TSBD.
She seems very legit but I have one big question and that is didn't her husband or ex husband say that she was lying? I heard that he said that she saw LHO on the tv and she said I know that guy I used to work with him. She does seem like she's telling the truth but I know scammers can be talented at lying and making everything seem legit. Very interesting though.
She went into hiding and married a Mormon out in the boondocks, and changed her name. It is probably likely that her husband knew very little of this for years, if at all. It wasn't until years later that she thought it was safe to talk about all of this.
This brave woman and her incredible story. She is a wealth of knowledge and some of the people in the audience were walking out. People have been so brainwashed by the government and the media it's truly pathetic.
At all the JFK forums, they panned Judyth. Not successfully, no matter how hard they tried to pull some string of confusion that didn't matter. Pathetic display of gate keeping. Only me and Jim Fetzer felt Judyth's video testimony was as authentic as any witness could be. But, when dealing with Gov shills and operatives...you're dealing with boneheads and liars being paid handsomly. Believe me, when morons get paid way too much money by the government, they will always be loyal to their own self interest protecting their punk ego so they can feel righteous in service to Commie Community Gang Stalking. The dumbest most rigid and most defensive punks, were always Commie gang stalking filth.
I'm not brainwashed by the govt--look at today, however, she should have alerted all authorities. They all couldnt have been in concert on what was planned. I believe it was the CIA and mafia. Both had huge reasons to be pissed.
I like the question. What did you add in to the history. She really didn't have anything new If you're riding a book on a historic subject, you're supposed to be adding something new, not rewriting whatever else wrote.
@Std Disclaimer I only knew her of being one of the best investigators from college and DID work with these people she said she did for CIA was doing work on fast acting Cancer--If Fact Killed Gen Hollis that way-He died with left eye cancer- a very quick death. Again I knew her(knew someone was doing this not her name or anything) She came up with the story and it proved right with the right DR, involved the deaths and ALL..SO I believe for I Knew the story and found it out many years ago when I saw it on TV..Then just the other day-Saw it again but missed first part...LIKE I said KNEW the story Before her story(perhaps she stole it--does not seem practical) NOW you know my info.CIA was working on way to develop a Quick Cancer---they are always doing shit like that. A polygraph would work for me although Poly's can be beaten just like Thane Cesar after many years passed poly that he did not shoot Bobby---I KNOW BETTER.You can train if a long enough time frame to beat Poly but he could have had a bad or deceived poly examiner. 9/11 was a very big day--and Thane Died on that very big day 18nyears after 6+6+6 is 18.. SEE all my videos and you can claim I'm an Idiot also---that does not Mean I am.. and say I beat my poly's also. Had that vid about Judyth up but took it off. LEE was MK-Ultra but broke it and refused to shoot John. and was in door way CIA is great at twisting everything-good photo perversion..Again I have said here what I posted many days ago. I have no proof of knowing LEE and the only proof of me knowing John is buried in a grave.
@Std Disclaimer and look what they crossed out. Thanks for your info--you have mine and the Gen. Hollis I knew did die of Cancer--so why cross out?? How many crossed out comment have you ever seen--I get them all the time lets see this Go (artdugan.com) and see my genealogy--do Trowbridge History and see the three men's family tree.
@Std Disclaimer WHY do you think I told you that. YOU were SO stupid Not to look at anything I had on the utube,In ESSENCE a complete IDIOT for Not knowing how to RESEARCH anything. I also Knew how FUCKED up you were with your first comment and have led you quite successfully into the TRAP that you wanted to be a part of.(without Knowing) NOW I can Show the whole world what Kind of IDIOTS we have on Planet EARTH. You have been HAD young Man(if that is what you are) I am Far more experienced than YOU--YOU took the BAIT and even went Over my Expectations. MY Genealogy is great and was Done by the President of the Genealogical Society 1908 when people were far more intelligent than they are Now.. I also have ample proof to prove many a thing besides what I showed you or anybody else. It is I laughing at YOU but also somewhat dismayed at the FOOLS whom roam our World---You are a dead man and know it Not-The FATHER will not let you be apart of the next Level(Not because HE doesn't want you to be BUT because you JUST Can't be--your mind(if you have one is Fried). Satan is your father for he is THE liar as you are--you are quit perverted but think you're cool. The Pit will be your end. AGAIN you were LEAD into a TRAP that you so willingly deserved--you could have meditated on what you read and you would have said WOW-how can that be. BUT you desired the TRAP. You will REAP your reward--it just will not be what you hope it to be.. Have a nice Forever-how ever SHORT that will be. Congratulations for taking the bait Sucker-the great disclaimer.
Thank you for standing up for Lee and yourself in loving and writing your truth. I believed at the time of the JFK's murderer was certainly not Oswald, simply because the media's speedy delivery of the news often nullifies its credibility from the start. I heard Mark Lane speak at SF State College right after the assassination, who further convinced me that this Oswald was framed. What became of Mark Lane, who wrote "Rush to Judgment" regarding this tragic event? Is he still alive? Lee's great gift to you and us all was keeping silent about his love for you. He knew the world quite well.
I dont think it was Oswald. He told us so. It was the mafia and the CIA. Why did Bobby end up dead next? Who the hell was Sirhan Sirhan? What was his beef?
and over a group of boys in the civil air patrol. man,talk about the fox in the hen house. then he yearned to be a catholic priest and do you see where this is going.
I had never noticed before how the end of Lee's fingertips are cut off in the backyard photo. I did know it was fake because of shadow problems and his square chin in it, but that is just more confirmation.
My Mom witnessed the assassination to JFK, she worked at the Dallas School Book Depository. It was easily the most traumatic moment of her life.
Has she ever spoken to any researchers about what she saw and heard? Did she share any memories of it?
No, she never spoke to anyone doing research. However she would on occasion be asked to speak in some of my classes in school. Her witness testimony is listed in the Warren Commission Exhibit 1381. Her neme was Judy Johnson. She was standing at the Southeast corner of Elm St. She was standing at the small traffic light in front of the book depository & was so close to the curb that she could have touched the limousine as it passed by. She said Jackie & JFK were beautiful with big smiles. She then heard three explosions just seconds later. The mood of the crowd quickly turned to panic. She was just 20 years old at the time. She never believed Oswald did it. She never recalled ever seeing him at all during her time working there.
@@tonyakay286 That is so fascinating, did she ever say who she thought did it? Also, thank you for sharing about your Mother.
The most telling thing is that almost all the people right in front of the TSBD heard shots from the grassy knoll. The ridiculous explanation given are ecbos....that is not how echos work. The sound from the source will be a hundred time louder than echos coming off distant structures.
That is amazing! I hope your mother considers writing and recording everything
The cut-off fingers on Oswald’s backyard ‘picture’ wasn’t something I’d paid attention to before, but I’ll be darned. Proof that it was a touched-up photo.
No, it isn't. If I hold a rolled-up newspaper that way, my phalanges point towards my body. Which means that if a picture is taken as in the backyard picture, they aren't visible.
@@CanalPSG Keep tellin yourself that buddy. If you wanna fool yourself, you're entitled. But you sure as hell won't fool me.
@@kevinbrennan-ji1so Well, if you want to pick someone else to really fool you, then that is all right with me.
@@CanalPSGyour CIA
@@warrentalbot329 No. Just someone who rolled up a newspaper to test a theory.
Whoever the host of Ms. Baker's talk is, he is extremely rude indeed. I've been watching City of Allen talks for a long time and haven't seen anything like this.
He shouts her down when clearly she is in the midde of a story with a beginning, middle & end and yells, "Audience questions" at her. Later, again when she's in the middle of an interesting, important story, the host sudden yells, "Thank you Judith Baker".
What the hell? I've never seen anything like it.
Perhaps he has caught some inconsistencies in her story as I myself have. She claimed in an earlier interview that LHO had driven her to Jackson. LHO did not drive nor own a car..
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It's not about inconsistencies or doubting Baker. Quite a few people don't believe Judith Baker. Why would anybody get her on a talk and a video episode just to harangue her because they don't believe her and want to show it this way like some kind of Chaplinesque farce?
What do to if you don't believe her is to question her. If there are inconsistencies then you ask her, "Isn't x an inconsistency? What do you have to say about that?"
You certainly don't treat someone how this host was treating this woman.
She is a credible witness, and people want to grill her to make sure. In my opinion she has passed the test. She knows too much and confirms a lot of ongoing research.
@@VinylToVideo
What you suggest would be the worst possible "explanation" for the rudeness.
If the man thinks there are inconsistencies, firstly that will be an opinion, a personal opinion. He is not a divine seer of what is or isn't true, nor a judge of jury over someone invited to speak in their own public talk. Regarding doubts, easily anyone doesn't know any full situation. So where there can seem to be inconsistencies there can also be explanations. There very often are. If you are having personal doubts then about anyone's testimony, properly you can't just shout them off the stage.
Secondly, even if there were glaring inconsistencies, agreed in books by many experts, so beyond just personally held ideas, naturally there is still no right to shout anyone off the stage.
This is, anyway, the murder of Kennedy we're talking about. The subject has been over decades and remains brim full of utter liars - deep state controller plants, people with fantastical tales (quite a number of people have admitted to be Kennedy's real assassin but they can't all have been), representatives of so-called polite, "positive" American society who desperately want to bury the embarrassment and unseemliness associated with with a shocking murder of an elected president.
Whoever it is, including the biggest liars in the world (and God knows some of the most determinedly dishonest people in the world have talked and published a lot on the subject of JFK) - if they've been given a talk that means they talk and should not be be shouted down.
@@VinylToVideo He did so drive, and was a good driver, though he never owned a car or driver's license.
In checking out Ms. Baker's story, numerous researchers found witnesses to Lee driving Judith around, in a number of different vehicles. He somehow had access to vehicles in New Orleans. Remember, Lee's family had deep connections to both the mob and the 🥸 agency, as did Lee himself. Read the book.
I think Ruth Payne played more of a part in the plot than has been talked about. She got lee a job at the SBD and again, how many people in the 60’s just wanted to learn Russian?
To understand Ruth Paine and her motivation, it is important to remember she is a Quaker, AKA The Religious Society of Friends. Quakers believe we are all children of God. Quakers value all people equally, and oppose anything that may harm or threaten them, war for example. They place great value in education. Historically they are one of the first religious organizations to officially oppose slavery and embrace Darwin's theory of evolution. They believe peace is reached by understanding ones enemies through dialogue and outreach. Post WWII America considered Russia its greatest threat. The obvious Quaker response was an attempt to understand Russians through outreach and open dialogue. Open dialogue requires the ability to speak and understand Russian, so Ruth tried to learn Russian. It's that simple.
@@mkconner9324 no its not, in new 2020 docs Ruth Payne and her father both CIA, look it up.
Oswald .
@@akumar7366 yes, wasnt he the guy who was positively identified in the 2nd floor breakroom by his boss Mr Truly and Dallas PD 75-90 seconds after murder of Kennedy while having a coke as they proceeded to the 6th fl. If thats who you mean he didnt fire a single shot. After shooting he went home to get his pistol, he knew he was "it" if he was going to murder the leader of the free world wouldn't you think he would take his pistol too? In summation if LHO thought there was going to be a problem at work on the 22nd he would have brought his pistol, he didnt, that tells me he wasnt anticipating any problems that day, he was low level government he knew the score why else use the term "patsy" which implies a setup. He knew enough to use that term plus no prints on rifle till after death, and on and on.
J Edgar Hoover wanted to know who was impersonating LHO in Mexico at Cuban Conculet while he had him under investigation in New Orleans for running guns for anti Castro Malitia.
very rude audience.
Stupid first, they can't even keep track of their own questions and answers, THEN they, or at least the guy I keep hearing so fae, is rude.
All lone nut gunman adherent's
@@timetravellerregisteredtra850 they don't like to be lied to. That's why they were mad at her. She lied all the time she was there
I really believe this lady, this is truth because it makes sense for the first time, shame on you America for not listening, this lady deserves a medel for having the guts standing there with her heart in her hands for all to criticize, god bless you, PLEASE stay safe, x
I think you just got suckered into by a con woman
And your proof!!!!!! Are you waking up yet America, !!!!!!! How many more people have to die for your cover-ups, all lies are the basics of evil and that's how the world thinks about your country and the morals of the people in responsible positions, your not the Great US of A anymore, you shouldn't of shot JFK, people who are bourn now judge you America on how you've treated good people of the past!!!!!!!
@@tyoungtara3639 I think there was a conspiracy.by whom I don't know,israel,mafia,cia defense industry? Who knows but jfk may not have been all you think he was,like maybe he was an internatist globalist just like the rest.my proof about her being a con well it's just a feeling I've studied jfk assassin ation since 1980.yes I feel she is not lee oswald's lover.i think that she is very beneficial to getting the truth out about the bad things that our leaders etc do.mist of her info is from other records that I've known about since the 80 s.
@Std Disclaimer She is well versed in all the alternative assassination theories, but my gut tells me she cannot be fully trusted. She may very well be a part of the puzzle, but I am not convinced.
HAHA HOHO
She’s not a good speaker but her testimony is flowing naturally and genuinely credible. She is a genuine witness.
She is a complete fraud
I believe LHO was innocent, I believe he was set up to take the fall.
She once claimed LHO drove her to Jackson. LHO did not drive, and did not own a car..
I believe Oswald was totally innocent. A 24 year old man framed and his reputation trashed. A lot of unproven assertions abound on the Internet about him, like he shot Tipet when the fact is that is an unsolved case.
@Dave M Where do I begin? I could write a hundred pages on this topic. Start with the so called evidence against him and the improbability of the existence of that evidence. It is juvenile. Look up the details surrounding the purchase of the rifle, an obvious frame up job.
@@Firearcher4 Innocent man killed by his own government
Way too much evidence against oswald and nothing from you all, only hearsay. The comments are all written by children it appears. CIA would have had her killed. The Mafia were not stupid enough to kill a president. Is it normal that we kill someone we hate? No it is not. This woman is merely another sensation seeker selling books. She has no insight and her evidence is nonsense.
Completely agree. I think he thought he was working for the CIA, as an operative. I think he was duped after he was no longer useful. Dulles and all involved are horrible, horrible people and I think they are still operating today, after their deaths.
The fact is that he gunned down Officer Tippet unless you want to call all the witnesses and evidence liars, he ducked into the Theatre to hide without buying a ticket, he then punched Officer McDonald in the face when he was asked to stand up and then tried to shoot him, all the actions of an innocent man for sure….not!
Remember this woman is 68 who kept her mouth shut for 45 years fearing for her life . At that age she will be a little disoriented but still provided some good facts .
@Robert Panetta: She should have done us all a favor and "kept her mouth shut" even longer, instead of concocting this laughable Oswaldian fantasy narrative 35 years after the fact. Baker has no reason to have ever feared for her life; though she does live in holy terror of the relentless diligence of fact checkers.
You believe it because you want to believe it.
@@BAFFLED-u4o You don't believe it because you don't want to believe it. It's disturbing to come to grips with the FACT that our own government played a part in disposing of JFK. I denied it to myself for years til I did the research.
@@howieduin915 I don't believe this woman had an affair with Oswald. It's absurd.
@@BAFFLED-u4oIt's a FACT that they were in N.O. at the same time. It's a Fact that they worked at Reily Coffee Co. At the same time. It's a Fact that they both worked on a research project under Dr. Mary Sherman at the same time. It's a Fact that they both knew David Ferries and Jack Ruby. Why would it be " absurd " for them to have had an affair?
Moving the “X” or even lamppost is irrelevant, the concrete platform is still there where Zapruder filmed the killing.
God bless you Judith stay safe much love from Melbourne Australia 😢❤😢
What a stuffy, snotty audience... they keep cutting off her fascinating stories, and act so hostile...I would have told all of them to pound sand
It's Texas. They are god's chosen people.
It’s because they know she is full of it…. she didn’t come forward until she saw the movie JFK lol and did a little research. Actually her ex had said it started after she found out Oswald briefly worked at the coffee company in N.O. and didn’t remember him lol
The first time I heard about Judith was in 1959 she was all over the news and in the paper. A senior in high school who they said was a genius that she found a breakthrough in what caused cancer. I was 12 yrs. Old
i mean even Ms.Kilgallen didn't believe it was Lee Oswald who did it and thats what got her killed.
No way!!!
She claims LHO drove her to Jackson (in another, earlier video). LHO did not drive nor own a car..
She's absolutely crazy
He probably drove her car - back that the dude did the driving if he was with a woman.
They say that time heals every pain. But the pain that was caused without explanation, without apology, that is a wound that never really heals. Mrs. Baker has been enduring such a pain for her whole life and she has my deepest sympathy. Respects and thanks for sharing this important part of her life and truth. Writing a book takes a lot of time effort. People who think that you get rich by publishing a book should try it themselves... Thank You, Mrs. Judyth Vary Baker, for giving us additional insight into this officially unresolved murder! You and other brave people like You help us connect the dots and therefore better understand the World we are living in. Greetings from Slovenia.
You actually bought her bullshit story?
Colonel Reb The only bullshit is You! She is real, Her story is real and the warren commission and you are a joke
What a thoughtful and respectful comment! God bless your kind heart
Lol what a croc
@@jameskinney9725 lol yea sure Oswalds girlfriend my ass
I believe her. She is the first person I've seen who actually ties in everything, brings all of the info to the front and speaks it out loud. Good on 'ya Judyth!
thats because swhes spinning a story absurd things and using well known people in assasination research
I don't. She claims in another, earlier interview that LHO drove her to Jackson. LHO did not drive nor own a car.
@@VinylToVideo She is obviously a mental case. They have delusions
Lol
She's a liar
Where is the 1st part of this video??? It seems as if she had been talking for some time to the audience because of some references she makes during this part of the video. Where is the beginning???
I believe her.
Ms. Baker has been on the run for decades because of what she knows.
I wish her continued good fortune.
For someone on the run writing a book isn't the best way.
@@psmith9789:
She may be the last living person with direct knowledge of players in the event!!!
Is it any wonder that she lives in constant fear?
No doubt, she has committed her knowledge to some kind of 'living affidavit',
to be opened only upon her expiration.
As long as THE SWAMP feels THEY can make/ let YOU APPEAR UNSTABLE/ INSIGNIFICANT..THEY'RE NOT TOO WORRIED WHAT You're SAYING!.. ESPECIALLY DECADES AFTER THE FACT!..
AFTER ALL.. THEY GOT DONE.. WHAT THEY WANTED DONE!
IF WHAT SHE SPEAKS IS TRUE .... She wouldn't be the first person 4 THEM to SCRUB (tweek) HER PAST!
PS.. Just look around TODAY & see our U S Government's alphabet departments(CIA,FBI,DOJ, SCOTUS etc.) BEHAVIOR towards IT'S CITIZENS!... RULES FOR THEE DON'T APPLY TO ME!...
Nothing to see here Folks!... MOVE ALONG!
@@psmith9789 at first your put down of her made sense for a second, but then I thought about (2 seconds later) and realized your reasoning lacking. Don't do anything wrong because if you had to hide I'd give you about 30 minutes at best.
If you have information that's bad for your health if it gets out the best way to survive is to get it out!
If its out then the damage has been done and there is nothing to silence.
Revenge is a whole northern matter!
@@johnsonhunglo1993 she still alive
I used to work in Allen, Texas. Nice town. Great library. Pleased your library is sponsoring these amazingly memorable lectures on the Assassination. Good job!
I wish I could go there as well:)
Thank you for sharing this true crime story.
I think this would have been better if they had sat down and asked her questions that she could answer and kept her on track, she clearly knows what she's talking about and I think she would be fascinating in that setting as opposed to standing up there and jumping from topic to topic.
If Oswald had lived and she were his lawyer.....he would be free today.
I read her book, and it is extremely detailed and has the ring of truth. The cancer related parts are in my opinion even more significant than the Oswald information.
You might like the book 'Dr. Mary's Monkey'
@@amandajayne2619 Yes, that was an eye opener. Roswell Park where Judyth Baker was taken to train, is here in WNY. Interesting is that someone I know that has worked there told a researcher there, that was now a patient with cancer: 'Get better doc, so you can find a cure.' The doctor told him wistfully, gesturing to the impressive facility: 'What about all this? They would never let me reveal it if I did.'
@@saabtech3510 , crazy and utterly believable.
Doesn't make much sense to have this woman doing any sort of research when she has no educational background for it at all.
@@09rja When she was in high school she was so far advanced in cancer research that the head of the Roswell Park Cancer Institute took her there to help them.
If there is a person who knew Oswald lee the best it is definitely HER....at the beginning was confuse since found records he had a wife, but then I got it. She knew more about his profession than his own wife. The way she easily remembers and connects terms and chronology of past events is Amazing, that is a proof that she was a real confident of Oswald Lee, and the fact that she had to hide her entirely life just to make sure she could spread the word of the true about Oswald lee ( he was only a PATSY definitely), is a huge symbol of true love.
Not one single photo to back up her claim. No evidence at all.
Oswald one of three patsys two others given jobs near area where attempt to shoot pres but both called off in Chicago&Tampa
Kinda rude how people keep interrupting her. Save your questions to the end!
I agree
Misogyny rules New Orleans. I believe it is still under Napoleanic Code and women cannot operate without father, husband or brother's signatures in some matters. O'Toole wrote, Confederacy of Dunces, and his mother had great difficulty getting it published after his death due to her gender.
It’s the same guy lol sounds like he’s autistic
They know she is lying her ass off
How could she possibly know what David Ferrie was doing if you believe this you got a screw loose
Unless you read Me and Lee, David Ferrie, and Mary's Monkey, you can't fairly assess this woman's point of view. Part of the reason for Ed Haslam writing Mary's Monkey, was to confirm or discredit Judyth Vary's story. Mostly it is confirmed. Granted, she comes across as a little bit nutty. But that is not the point. She has some details a bit mixed up. To be expected, after 50 years. Her opinion of LHO is biased. Also to be expected. Bottom line is. LHO was up to something, but it certainly was not killing JFK.
Edward Haslam wrote Dr. Mary’s Monkey before even knowing about Judyth Vary Baker...The original name of his book was Mary, Ferrie and the Monkey Virus...and it wasn’t written as an inquiry into the assassination but as an investigation of the death of Mary Sherman at the Patio Apartments in New Orleans... He was put in touch with Judy Baker by the news program 60 Minutes...He (Ed Haslam) was questioning whether she had read Mary, Ferrie and the Monkey Virus and was attempting to put herself into the story....
No question.
Yes, agreed 💯.
This is the first time I’ve heard anyone say that Michael Paine looked just like Oswald. They absolutely look nearly identical.
Similar, but nowhere near identical.
Paine could easily pose as Oswald's double.
Ruth was cia all the way....mr paine bailed on ruth and one or two young children as soon as maria and Lee showed up. Mr paine worked for Bell helicopter Corp. Completely owned and operated by the feds. I doubt in 63 a man working for such a government owned company could leave a wife and small children. It a security risk .
No they dont
@@randyjohnson6845 According to Ruth Paine, she and her husband moved back in together after the assassination and did not divorce until 1970. Five people -- eventually six and sometimes seven -- living in a tiny two-bedroom house (Paine and her two children in one bedroom, Marina, June, occasionally Lee and eventually the infant Rachel in the other bedroom), just so that Mrs. Paine could speak Russian with Marina? Give me a break.
I think this lady is a telling the Truth... I've listened to her many times... and that's my thoughts..
DJ Mcdee h
How do you know bitch.
@James Passmore Can you give a few examples and the evidence you have that shows them as untrue ?
@James Passmore I followed your advice and remain unconvinced. You must have a few specific examples which convinced you. Why not share them ?
@James Passmore you are a fake . I don't believe hyou
Thanks Judith for being So Brave & telling your Story; it proves to us that Lee Oswald was Not the assassin, & he's been wrongly convicted in the news media for so many years, but now, thanks to you, we Finally know the truth about Lee.
this lady is a fraud probably disinfo person working for certain groups
yup . love ya sister
She couldn't even prove she was Oswald's mistress, much less address or explain away all the evidence of his guilt.
Thomas Parnell,
So, having the last name as Lee, has its ups and downs. As a young boy, I had no clue who he was until the name was thrust out put in my history class by the teacher. Yeah, every kid in the place turned there eyes my way, lol. There I was with an infamous name and knowing my classmates were going to harass the crap out of me. I enlisted in the Navy between my junior and senior years of high school and was still awaiting y final approval. My physical was good, my test scores were good, and all I needed to leave for boot camp upon my graduation was my swearing in. Something wasn’t right so I called my recruiter as he was trying hard to get me sworn in and off to boot camp upon my graduation. Finally they gave me the green light to do my swearing in. On my way to the Denver MEPS building my recruiter told me why it took so long. Even though he asked y parents many questions, it was because my last name. They had to do a more intense background because of my last name!
Because of my last name, I’ve become an avid fan of the whole mess of the assassination. I call it a mess because I think there’s so many layers to this just like an onion. I think if someone had all the real proof, at the center of the onion we’d find a very corrupt government that was in bed with several others players. I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth but as we have started peeling the onion, I really think Lee was used as a patsy/pawn. I think they put him the spots/situation that later could be used to point a false finger at him.
Ooop! I meant the last name of “Oswald”
I bought her book and her story is amazing. she has documentation on all the events and it goes something like this. she was a remarkable achiever and a brain that by fate was introduced in to the government/ mafia connection to assassinate castro. lee played many roles in line with the government/ maffia and you never really understood who was pulling his chain. bay of pigs happen which was a fiasco for project mongoose. the same hit team used to kill castro has now focused to kill jfk. it seems men died on the beach as kennedy was suppose to provide air support........... and he didnt. so at dallas, it was payback time. she talks about lee oswald at every step weeks before the assassination in dallas. and i believe in her story.
@Std Disclaimer I believe her more than I believe the ,9/11 planes brought down the towers and of course the ongoing trump and his party. Seems like everything is a cover up or cover your ass when just speaking the truth is so simple in that one doesn't have to remember all the lies. Exhausting.
@Std Disclaimer Of all the interest and reading on JFK's assasination I have never heard of this woman and she does not come off to me as credible at all! but rather trying to insert herself into a kind of helpless bystander. Why in the hell didnt she say something if she was that close to the conspiracy? BS on her attempt at immortality.
@@taroman7100 She would have been murdered.
@@KennethPoole-y7z yes, like she says David Ferry saved her life and took her to Florida unlike the fate of Dr.Mary Sherman which she mentions.
@@larciabella WHO is Dr. Mary Sherman ?
She comes off as knowledgeable and sincere.
She refuses to take a lie detector test. That's all you need to know about that woman
@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES lie detector tests have a lot of false positives - just drink too much coffee.
What an odd format. I have no idea if this is a speech, a seminar, an interview or an interrogation
How rude.
@@firstculpa9239 I thought it was rude how they kept interrupting her
@@jamesnope8666 well then I misunderstood you and I apologize bro. Peace
She is in total denial.
My dad was born in 1937.. in 1940 he got polio. He was hospitalized for a long time and his after care was long. He’s said he hated going to the doctors that there was always a bunch of doctors touching him to the point he felt like an experiment. 1951 he got bone cancer in the leg he had contracted polio in…His leg was amputated at 13..He as well got prostate cancer. He wouldn’t allow my mother to take us to doctors… the school vaccinated me. They lied about the time line of cancer in the vaccines … they said 1955 to 1964… all lies. I think my dad spent his whole life angry about the lies they told repeatedly through the years!!!
hi,If I rem.correctly the cancer that was in the tainted polio vaccines were in the shots given via the needle and not the sugar cube?So what was the true time line of the cancer in the vaccines?I think all this is written about in the book Doctor Mary's Monkeys?I rem.also Dr.Oschner who was head of the program that Judyth was in gave the shot to his grandchild just to prove it was safe and tragically the child died.
@@larciabella … I Don’t think we’ll ever know the truth… could have been in both.
@@suzanbrowning3980 yes it was both up until 1963.
Maybe a book by Ed Haslam - "Dr Mary's Monkey" could shed some light on the affects of polio vaccine given to millions of American children in the 50s.
Two Question I have is: 1)If Lee Osward or whom ever, did do it..Why not shoot Kennedy when he was coming down Houston Street...? No Trees...Light Posts...Road Signs...and it a straight road....plus the motor pool was coming towards the shooter and the Secret Service were behind Kennedy...S.S. couldn't block any shots.... besides, if the shooter miss..then he can always try again for Elm St...in which in my mind..would be a harder target to hit.
2) There was chicken bones and Dr. Pepper Bottle found at the snipers nest. Is this still saved..? and can we get DNA off them..? After all, Oswald still has living daughters. (Oswald was drinking Coke Cola on the 2nd floor)
Also to note, Wesley Buell Frazier drove Oswald to work that day and he stated, Oswald had no lunch.
1927 the FBI, U.S. Government poison drinking alcohol during Prohibition. it took 75 years to know that "Truth'
1963 JFK was killed.. We The Pesky Citizens have to wait till 2039 (75 Years) to know the 'Truth"
2001 America was attack... again.. We The Pesky Citizens and the rest of the world have to wait to 2076 (75 years) to know the 'Truth"
Thousands of people said that they saw UFO's. Government said.."No You didn't...it was swamp gas". Today Government says.."Yep..There are UFO's."
Maybe by 2076... The People just might..."Question Your Government"... Maybe.
The shots from the TSBD were not
for shooting JFK.
All shots on him were from the front and sides.
Oswald was part of James Jesus Angleton's Returned Defector program. And weirdly enough, two of the other Returned Defectors closely resembled LHO. As Garrison said in one of his noon round table meetings with his investigators, "that makes six Oswalds. And J. Edgar Hoover himself said someone was using his identity while the real Lee Oswald was overseas."
They wasted time on six Oswald's when they could have had six Marilyn Monroe's fuck him to death.
Thank you for letting some of the people here learn this because she was not totally clear on this. I know she cannot answer to save her life so she beat around the bush.
that is very interesting and i did not know or hear of that. they claimed they had photos of LHO in mexico city and people claimed they saw the photos. none of them resembled LHO.
Bullshut stop reading conspiracy theories.
@@jodyguilbeaux8225 That's bullshit it was a misunderstanding.
Judith, you are a great lady. I love your book, allow me to say you are a very precious lady. You did deserve his love. I am sorry you two were not allowed to stay together. Life is very strange and can only be understood from a spiritual level. I believe Lee had a good heart. He just got involved with those who every young person needs to make a B line around.
I can see he had several bruises on his face before Ruby did this horrible act against Lee.
I hope you have received much inner very deep healing from the harm you had to endure.
Be blessed !
Judy, you and Lee will be together for eternity. He is waiting for you.....
Beautiful comment 👏🏻✨
In 1992, I was one of 1st to get Microsoft set top box. Someone on internet asked if anyone believed Lee was lone gunman, I said only Fools believe that, next thing I was cut off the internet and Microsoft wouldn't answer why?
The host was ridiculously rude. Almost like he didnt want her to speak.
I think this is common in the JFK conspiracy scene - there's this huge jockeying for truth kind of like paparazzi. So they cut off people, in the chase to be the "first" to find out the truth. hahahaha.
I'm reading her book. I find it fascinating, and although I do not doubt she had a relationship with Oswald I find myself wondering whether, for some reason, Oswald was actually tasked to keep an eye on her.
In the updated version of the book there is a passage that indicates that Lee was, in fact, initially told to essentially keep an eye on her.
It would be too much of a coincidence for him to happen to show up at the Post Office after she had told Dr. Mary she was headed there.
I think he definitely was supposed to watch her. But I think he started to like her.
She is so full of shit, that it's coming out of her Mouth. Shameful and despicable. 100% chance Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in Killing JFK. I hate this horsehshit
Because she arrived earlier than was supposed to in New Orleans, whoever the cia handlers were, put Oswald with Baker to watch and make sure she stayed out of trouble & off the radar. Don't let the movie ''JFK'' ruin everything. Oliver Stone makes it look like Ferrie hated Kennedy & wanted to kill him... David Ferrie may have been gay but like Oswald, he was also a Patriot..
A good book to read is Dr Mary's Monkey by Edward T Haslam. Ed puts a lot of detail in the book. In fact, it was Jim Marrs & the TV Show, 60 Minutes that brought Judyth Vary Baker to the attention of Ed Haslam. That's why his first book was called, Mary, Ferrie & The Monkey Virus. Haslam knew that there was a woman involved with Dr Mary Sherman, David Ferrie & Lee Oswald, he just didn't know who she was, plus all three of those people were killed, leaving Judyth Baker as the only one still alive....
Once she contacted Haslam and proved she was part of everything going on in New Orleans, he knew that he had enough evidence/information to write Dr Mary's Monkey.....
It's amazing how all of this unfolded. Once you read Judyth Baker book & Ed Haslam's book, you'll know without a doubt that Lee Oswald was not involved with President Kennedy's assassination.
Jmo: Oswald was a plant and the expendable fall guy. He was part of the assassin ring then hired at the TDSB then brought up the rifle for one of the assassins and was told to go down to the lunch room and wait. When he was reportedly seen in the lunch room holding a soda his hands were not visibly shaking? He just shot at the President he hangs around too and calm and collected too?? I don’t think so. Then the gun is left with shell casings lined up neatly to be found? As well he was not tried and convicted in a proper court of law so him being the lone assassin is speculation.
Hope you are doing well, Judyth. Hope that the expanded book printing has come off without a hitch. Let us know something. We are concerned about you. Today is Nov. 18, 2022.
Thank you for your bravery and making it right for your boyfriend Lee Harvey Oswald he was a beautiful man
Most of the people who knew Oswald didn't like him at all, including his own wife.
We bought her book, "Me & Lee" along with Ed Haslam's "Dr Mary's Monkey" as each book confirms/backs up info in the other. Thankful to have them before one or both are scissored if you get my meaning. Get them both while you still can.
You all need to read her books. They are well, very well documented and organized. She's now an older lady with health issues, and jumps from topics to topics...and it can seem unorganized on tape, but it's untrue. She's the real deal.
I believe so. She was a teen age prodigy on the cutting edge of cancer at the time. How many you know of those? Well documented with numerous photos and newspaper articles in Lee And Me. When she gets to New Orleans it is so spooky and bizarre...
Her take on the cancer industry and ochsner is verrryyy interesting.....scary....remember they were going to try to kill castro....maybe by injecting him with cancer....just like ruby when he claimed they injected him with cancer. In prison......too many coincidences regarding ' cancer research'
@@herbpetrillo163 Yes, and it explains a lot of the Cover Up in New Orleans.
@@herbpetrillo163 Remember the Cancer Industrial Complex is a multi-billion dollar business.
ok,,yes its not a straight line time story,,, and thats why i cant follow it,
This lady fought for your country yet some of you are reud and downright incorrigible. I guess your mothers didn't raise you well enough to teach you that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Just bad upbringing, I guess. Shame! Plus you have to know this comment section is full of trolls! Everything she said checks out. Do some research if you don't believe me.
She's a lot more credible than any mindless idiots saying Oswald Acted Alone!
Most people don't believe Judyth. I read her book, and did my own research. Not to get too lengthy, but I also lived in N.O. for a short time. My friends knew some of the people she mentioned (Dr. Ochsner, etc). The thing that made me a believer was a very small, subtle detail. There's a part of her book, I'm not sure exactly where now, but she claims she was in a car, taking a trip with LHO, and someone else, going to Mandeville, or someplace across Lake Pontchartrain. She said they stopped at a house, and her fellow passengers went up to the door to talk to a woman. She couldn't see her face, nor the woman could see hers. Later, there was an interview with that lady, and she confirmed that when LHO came to visit her (I think it was with D. Ferrie) she said that there was a lady in the car with them who just stayed in the car. EXACTLY as she described the situation! That just got the bells ringing in my head. A chance encounter, but clearly and accurately documneted by a 3rd party. The "slam dunk" would've been if she could have taken just ONE picture with her and LHO. Anyway, I think she is a fascinating lady, and I'm a fan of her. Hopefully, one day all the JFK truth will be revealed. Thanks for reading and stay safe.
Yes. The confirmations of just about everything Judyth has said keep coming out. She is for real I think. Even Roger Stone, who wrote a book on the JFK assassination, thinks she is for real.
Yes, but someone as smart (as her promoters profusely like to burnish her credentials) as Judyth would know enough to massively research her topic, including finding the "interview with that lady", and back-engineer the encounter and textually embed herself in the encounter.
Tie this together with Ed haslams ....Dr Mary's Monkey .......
The story fits .
This book is a Must Read!
The interview with his landlady in New Orleans said the whole time he was there, he only worked for a few weeks and then he was always at home just sitting around and reading. He didn't make calls. When he was at the Payne's he did the same. No one ever called him and he never made calls.
I read the Warren Commission testimony of Oswald's neighbors in New Orleans the other day and there was one couple who had been Ma and Lee's landlords when he was a teen and they met him again when he came down in sixty three. And the husband in this couple said Lee dressed shabby and lived in a very low rent apartment. Not a nice place for his family. So he did not believe stories about Lee getting money from various sources. Unfortunately, the interview did not include what stories he had heard in those early days.
"Now everyone will know I am."
Now I know it's been said it was said as a boast, but he wasn't saying it as a boast. It was more like- like when you catch someone in a building at night, and they're angry that they've been caught. Like his cover had been blown.
-Roger Craig
Where is the first part of this video? This looks like it should be Part 2.
Without watching the whole lecture, did jack ruby's cancer have anything to do with their cancer research? No need to apologize to the crowd if it's the truth.
I've had that very same thought.
Judyth is a hero! The book is long and detailed . . . . a bit hard to follow at some places. There is a lot of her emotion which comes through clearly . . . . she is very human indeed. But it is well documented and I, for one, believe Judyth. This video makes a lot of sense after reading the book; much easier to follow after the read. I am a long standing JFK investigator and, believe me, this wonderful lady is right on the money. Thank you Judyth!!
You aren't the only one wo believes Judyth. She wrote a great book.
"a BIT HARD to follow" ????.... WHO WOULD WANT TO TAG ALONG ????
@@jb-vb8un It's a really good book and Lee should have listened to her, but I think he was more enamored with his Intelligence career.
A hero? she could have prevented the whole thing.
I totally agree
What was the "stuff" that escaped. 30:07
I wouldn't have walked out on this event. Fascinating information & the host could have been more polite
Did someone say why people walked out? I know someone spoke up, but I could not understand what they said. Does anyone know? Thanks
Why does Google ( UA-cam) insist on inserted contextual opinion as if their opinion provides universal clarity that is beyond reproach? 🤔
I can't understand more than half of what she is sying. i wish there were subtitles.
Marina said that she took the photos of Oswald with his rifle in their back yard. Was she lying?
Try to understand Marina's situation. A russian immigrant with a very weak grasp of English. Has 2 young daughters, and a husband accused of murdering JFK. The fbi, secret service, Dallas PD. Et al. All questioning her. Probably badgering her. Threatening her with deportation,etc. I think she told them what they wanted (or thought they wanted) to hear. She was petrified I would think.
Yes. Hey whole family was k g B.
Man in backyard photo originally was leaning on something. As shown, his posture is unnatural, chin is different plus Lee had about 3 people around him who closely resembled him. Too many things do not add up. Add here different rifle, convenient killing by Ruby, etc.
Yes, I purchased and read her entire book. Judyth Baker's son was interviewed afterwards and said the book was "at best, fictional history." I agree. (While she claims to have been present in many of the historical events, there is no film footage or photo of her. Nor does anyone remember her. Goodness. Did she make the whole thing up?)
Are there any photos of Judyth Baker with Lee Oswald ?
OF COURSE NOT. SHE NEVER MET THE GUY.
@@superchitownhustler I don't believe you. Are you saying they didn't both work at the Reilly Coffee Company at the same time ?
Nothing she says is true.@@johnbellingham9067
@@superchitownhustler Can you give a few examples and the evidence you have that shows them as untrue ?
I won't bother to try. She is a fraud. You are gullible and foolish to believe any thing she says.@@johnbellingham9067
Extremely thought provoking!
There are certain facets of her story that I do believe but there’s a lot of grey area as well .
Look up "Richard Keith Nagel" and a book, "The Man Who Knew Too Much". This will really, really, confuse things. Nagel was an alleged triple agent (?) and he was tasked with stalking Oswald. He also knew Oswald in the Marines in Japan. Nagel got himself arrested by shooting a bullet into the ceiling of a bank....so he would be in jail on the date of the assassination. He apparently gave a warning about the coming "Big Event" to authorities. This guy is the wild card in the deck.
LHO PASSED the paraffin test was no gun powder residue on him at all and trust me if he shot that rifle he would have had residue all over him! Poorly made highly inaccurate junk Italian rifle , I do believe James E. Files Was the one who took the fatal shot with the Remington XP-100 bolt action pistol in .221 fireball and at the time were only 2 prototypes and the CIA had both of them at that time I watched that interview with Files that some danish guy had out for a while and his body language was quite telling and the ballistics info on that last head shot was spot on the way they head shot hit a carcano in no way could have done that kind of damage from the book suppository angle so I believe his story,and also the “Mary’s Mosiac “ author a story on Mary Pinchot Myers murder and the guy who did Dorthy Kilgarin story they were both whacked no doubt about it never heard of this woman before not that it matters we are never ever going to get the true story ever that’s how the spooks work it’s a jigsaw puzzle within a rubics cube.
It was definitely a rifle not curtain rods - why did he return to his wife's out of town house unusually on the Thursday and not on the normal Friday for a weekend at home - not just for curtain rods surely ? - his rented room in town already had curtains. Plus he was already pissed at FBI agent not returning his call a few days, before when he maybe wrongly thought the guy was harassing his wife
The rifle advert shows it was 36", (not 42" as some have said) and stripped down it may have been 29" - and close to the 2 feet his neighbour driver stated after a quick glance over his shoulder in his car that morning, and would fit along the inside of his arm when walking. This is a strange way to carry a long narrow parcel unless you want to hide it.
Plus he had plenty time to reassemble it (20 mins? afterwards hiding the screwdriver anywhere inside the huge building or taking it with him for defense), during the 4 hours after he arrived at work at 8 am and on the 6th floor making up orders and sorting a simple sniper nest and long wall using maybe only 30 or more small boxes.
If he did not fire then he should have seen the shooter who had no time to sort the boxes, plus why leave quickly and pick up a handgun ?
He was a Walter Mitty character, slight links to everyone - mafia, then army, CIA in Japan, Russia, both pro and contra Castro-groups - he was too calm at the police station, patsy or not.
UNLESS he was supplying a gun and sniper nest for someone else. - there was at least one other detective or security man wandering about inside before the shooting - and hence the failed call to Raleigh ex CIA man almost 36 hours after the shooting when he realized he had been duped
I think you are a very brave lady to come forward !🙏
God bless her for this.
She never would take a lie detector test. What does that tell you?
read "The MOnkey and Me" - corroborates her crazy cancer weapons claims. Ed Haslam's "Dr Mary's Monkey"
WHY does this description of this video state that "L. H. Oswald's name will always be shrouded in infamy" ?? Isn't the whole point of posting this video to change that ?? Jeez.
While I doubt the official narrative and I believe the plot to assassinate Castro, Judith’s story isn’t completely credible. In her interview on The Men Who Killed Kennedy, she didn’t manage to squeeze out one tear. She claimed he was the love of her life and at times paused saying she couldn’t go on. Yet, she didn’t cry. Also, she claims that she and Oswald held off on being intimate because of their marriage commitments yet she admitted she wouldn’t have married her husband if she could have married Lee and Lee beat his wife. They didn’t sound like they were all that committed to their spouses. Lastly, the part that didn’t ring true was that they told everyone they hung out with about the plot. If you’re cooking up a plot to kill a foreign head of state, wouldn’t you want to keep the details quiet? I think she met a few of the people and maybe even participated in some experiments. But I think the love affair was fantasy fan fiction. Even her friends said she was a gullible and naive.
they didn't know each other that long and it's been a long time since.
In 2012, Saw Judy speak here in Los Angeles. She’s great, & in my eyes a hero - so are both Ed Haslam & Lee Oswald
She's not telling the truth and she refuses to take a lie detector test. Not one single photo of her and Lee together ever
Have not read her book. But with my on research I find this post more than creditable
The details of how they met doesn't quite ring comfortably with me..both of them just happen to be in line together in the post office, the dropped newspaper, and to top it off, she speaks Russian to a total stranger in New Orleans...Why? And then the guy just happens to speak Russian? This just doesn't pass the smell test.
I think she's sincere about her story in general, but that first meeting....
He was sent and assigned as her handler. If you know how the system worked, that was quite normal.
Lee was Innocent., he saved himself at the Texas Theater., he acted like a skilled operative., brave to say he was a patsy.
You mention that Lee Oswald attempted to take a cancer cocktail to kill Fidel Castro. Could that have this been given to Jack Ruby?
I'd bet everything I own that this was so. Granted, that's not much but, I would.
Yes.
Read Dr. Mary's Monkey by Ed Haslam. This book will give you more info too.
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Never heard of that book Deborah, is it a good read & would it tie into what Judyth Baker talked about here? Reason I ask is a lot of this interview gets scrambled up by her jumping around questions...
@@montydaniels1054 read The Virus And The Vaccine by Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher, besides Dr. Mary's Monkey by Edward Haslam.
That book focuses more on Dr. Mary Sherman, Me + Lee is a better read.
@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. I have a subscription to C2Cam. I can do a search on it to see when she was interviewed and also any guests that may be associated with her. I should watch this episode here again to refresh my memory. Thanks for the idea...... Although Baker usually sounds like she's telling the truth, from time-to-time she'll jump around a lot, where it could be viewed that she avoids, or dodges answering some of the questions she's asked....
Funny thing is, I just read an article that is 14 years to the day, (when I read it, July 30th, 2007.)By a Dr. Brobson Lutz, an MD out of New Orleans, Louisiana, (of all places.) He talks about Dr Mary Sherman and the book written by Edward Haslam about her.
I also recall hearing back in the Mid to Late 1990's about AID's coming out of Africa, and that it jumped from Monkeys to Humans... I could go on & on about Sherman but one thing I do find that makes her death unique is her birth & death. I'm not into numerology but if you subtract her birth date from her death date, you get 51. Same age as she was at the time of death.. Now that's a Rabbit Hole I'm not gonna go down lol.......
There's a lot of consistency in these conspiracy theorists. Dorothy Kilgallen, Mary Meyers and a lot of other people who died in mysterious circumstances or killed themselves in odd ways.
They didn't kill themselves, they were "suicided"
HAHAHAHA I'M DYING
Only two other topics caused weird death too. UFO's and 9/11.
Did anyone bother to ask Marina if she had made curtains for Oswald’s room? Did anyone examine his room to see if there were curtain rods already installed in the room?
Good question. I also wonder about the curtain rod thing. I remember from Judyth's book that Lee knew, after the plot against Castro had failed, that he'd be used as the patsy in Kennedy's murder. "Maybe I can fire off a warning shot and get him to duck," Lee told Judyth. So was there really a firearm in that brown bag for that purpose?
I wish I could contact her I have information
What information can you say.
Lezlie Alabaster I would tell her I what I personal heard Carlos tell my Uncle George Piazza
Lezlie Alabaster I would say what I heard
She’s got a Facebook page
@@arthur623 and you're going to boast about here on youtube? ..smh
What information has the US government just released about him?
I saw an interview she had done about 25 years ago. She recounted the meeting at the post office with no mention of the Russian aspect. I think that is something she has embellished over the years. I mean who would out of the blue say something in Russian as a pickup line?
It’s all BS. All.
Right. She’s full of chit.
who cares if she can't recall the same details as 25 years ago? her points about lee and cia activities at that time are what's relevant.
I picked up on the same. She said he picked up the papers that she dropped and asked if he could walk her home. Now to give her some benefit of doubt it could be that she left out certain aspects of the story since she probably told it quite a few times, yet I now do feel a but more apprehensive about her claims
No, it was in Ed Haslams work notes for when he wrote Dr. Marys Monkey, and its included in that. That book came out in 2007, and is also in his notes prior to, for that book.
Judyth, be blessed and stay safe all the days of your life. You are so very special. I am sure you know this but it always helps to hear it again from someone else. It is just amazing to hear the evidence of eyewitnesses who were ignored by the Warren Comission. Of course that was not done by accident for sure.
I agree she needs to hear it from her supporters bc she gets more from her detractors. Thank you to Judyth for speaking up. You are brave. You set aside your privacy even your dignity and reputation to bring us the truth.
She held off all these years though? That's because why?
He was a patsy
Wondered if Jack Ruby was injected with a cancer causing drug
Ruby was checked on by a CIA MKULTRA doctor LOuis "Jolly" West - read "A Secret Order" by H.P. Albarelli for details
I was at Lucas B&B Restaurant readomg an assasonation book on JKF in the 70's and a watress asked me what I was reading. After I told her she said very frankly she never forgot faces, and that one evening she had served both Jack Ruby and LH Oswald. I believe her totally,
she is telling the truth , a lot of people have told the truth , and we know lee did not do it
he did it alright.
@@superchitownhustler what did he do ? tell us. give us the details. didn't think so
So how come she was allowed to live?
CT's won't ever answer that question because the answer is that she is a fraud and no one in the government ever gave a shit what she said. At best she is a performance artist, a story teller. More likely a grifter who found her niche hustle and milks it's teat as a lifestyle.@@paulmanly3694
Yes you are a very smart man to not believe that bull crap
I'm just here to listen to the mediator cut off the speaker
it would be better without the constant interruptions. Just let her tell her story.
Very interesting lady.She did make a statement that JFK was targeted for assassination at either love field, dealey Plaza or the trade mart.
Not disputing the claim but would love to know her source.
Why was Lee working in the Book Depository on the upper floors? Why did he leave after the killing while everyone else stayed? Why did he kill Tippit? Why did he try to hide in the theatre? How could Tippit's murder have been set up when no one knew where he would be dispatched and even if they did, how did they know exactly where he would encounter Lee on the street? Lee was taking an erratic path. And to send in random witnesses from the neighbourhood? How the HELL could that all have been planned and in what timeframe? Come on, people, think about it! These witnesses were longtime residents of the area. If Lee had not killed Kennedy why run and why kill Tippit? Obviously Lee was mixed up with a mess of characters but the plain facts are still there. And there is hard evidence against Lee. This is just clouding an issue that just can't be explained-- namely all the questions I just listed. Smoke and mirrors.
1) It is not at all clearly and without doubt established that there is a link between the Tippit murder and LHO. What is clear is that not only Lee's behaviour and Tippit's behaviour after the murder were strange. Tippit clearly was on the look out for someone, making a car stop, checking the space between front and back seats, trying to phone someone.... To prove Tippit was shot by LHO, a witness had to be found who saw someone running the 9/10th of a mile between the scene of the crime to the theatre where LHO was arrested, otherwise you have a chronology problem. No such witness came forward. Just assuming LHO had to be the murderer is not good enough, as there are also contradicting elements
2) Lee's behaviour after the murder are indeed strange. The conclusions connected to that strange behaviour though can go in very different directions. Either they are a "proof" that he was the murderer, either that he slowly started to piece together things and add 2 and 2 together, either that someone had instructed him to do exactly what he did. I don't know which of the 3 broad possibilities is the right one, there are elements that could pointing to either of these 3. It was odd he remained in the building (being rather in favour of JFK as some people claim he was), it was odd he was sipping a Coke when the first policeman rushed into the TSBD, it was odd he was not curious to see what happened outside, but in stead went to his place, got a revolver, went to a movie, forgetting (?) to pay while he had enough money with him, it was odd he said "This is it" when he was arrested etc etc. It all was very weird behaviour, but it is unclear what that fact really means. He clearly was involved in something, either as an active participant, as the sole participant (but how did he manage the "trick" with the Coke in the TSBD in such a short time ?), as a decoy, a patsy... His odd behaviour in the months prior to the assassination point to him being part of "something bigger". The attention seeking actions as his (staged ?) clash with anti Castro Cubans (and just by coïncidence, someone was there to film it all), his weird radio interview, the did he or didn't he visit the Cuban embassy thing and the did or didn't the CIA camera's caught him or not on film. (Was the 30 something old man leaving the embassy ever identified ?)
3) I tend to think he was part of a conspiracy, either as an active participant, either as an infiltrator. The strongest indication for that is the completely unnecessary, potentially dangerous odd turns on Dealy Plaza that were added to the route the presidential limousine took. This was against all security rules, had no real PR relevance (it is not as if there were thousands of people gathered on Dealey Plaza), was added at the last minute by someone whose powerful brother had been fired by JFK etc etc. If this wouldn't have been added, it would have been even less plausible for LHO to shoot the president with a weapon that sucked in a record time. (Furthermore an easily traceable weapon, while LHO could have bought without trouble one that wasn't traceable). Lee bringing "curtain rods" to the TSBD.... Mausers becoming Mannlicher Carcano's. Palm prints appearing where they weren't there before. Magic bullets.... I mean....
If it would have rained that day, the bubble top would have been on the presidential limousine. If the odd Dealey Plaza curbs wouldn't have been added at the last minute to the route followed by the presidential limousine, killing the president from the TSBD would have needed even more magical bullets. If there would have been Secret Service men on the presidential limousine, that too would have made things more difficult. (One agent who thought it was indeed the intention to give the limousine close protection was seen to retreat in disbelief at the airfield, when his superior asked him to back down, and get into another car in stead) If the normal security procedures would have been followed on Dealey Plaza, there wouldn't have been an open window in the TSBD etc etc. I can understand that one, two, three people didn't do their job 100 % during such an event. Here we get systematically people doing things that are not "normal", and that sum of small or enigmatic "errors" only made the assassination possible.
Finally: if LHO was the oddball with confused political ideas and an unlucky marriage, if he really was that disgrunted figure some people have turned him in to, why didn't he proudly shouted that, yes, he, Lee Harvey Oswald had killed the president ? The assassin of Abraham Lincoln would have done so. Here we get someone who says he hasn't been accused of the murder of JFK "YET", and who claims he is a "patsy". Not exactly the proud, well trained or highly motivated communist terrorist. Not a Rote Armee Fraction fanatic, claiming proudly and with high pitched voice, Yes, I killed the most powerful man on Earth. It simply doesn't make sense. There are faaaaaaar too many "coïncidences" to make a lone nut scenario plausible. The way the case was researched by the police, the Secret Service, the FBI etc afterwards also points to something far bigger. The way LHO was killed afterwards too.
I admit we still don't know who were the real shooters, that it is not possible to bring a "case closed" scenario that prooves beyond any doubt whatsoever who killed JFK. But simple gut feeling and arithmetics are enough to make a lone nut theory far less credible than a double conspiracy: the assassination and the cover up afterwards. The Dealey Plaza last minute changes alone are a terribly strong indication. Which leads to who could add these changes, and to the question why. The changes only made sense for one very specific goal: to frame Oswald. All other reasons make no sense whatsoever.
Have you been living under a rock? The cia & fbi were the first to start spreading misinformation & disinformation around. Oswald didn't kill anyone. He had a cia handler, just like David Ferrie did. Oswald knew he was already in trouble for calling in the Chicago fbi office telling them about an assassination that was planned there. The cia had a list of people who probably called the fbi & Oswald was probably on the top of the list.. That's old news now anyway.
Oswald was never on an upper floor. He even Passed a Paraffin Test, which means He Didn't Fire A Weapon. And that Mauser they found on the 6th floor, it came from Argentina. They were licensed to make the model Mauser found there. No one fired that shitty Carcano Model 38 infantry carbine that was planted there. The one Oswald supposedly bought. **Why would someone order a carbine, through the mail, have it shipped to a Local Post Office, Then go & pick it up & the whole time, leave a gigantic paper trail while living in the same state, where you could walk into any gun shop, buy any type of semi automatic rifle without any ID & then, just walk out the door. No one is that stupid, However-
**The only people Dumber than that, are the people who believe Oswald actually did that....
*Remember The Bay Of Pigs, the cia operation? The cia bought Argentinian made Mausers to arm the Cuban's that defected/actually Fled to Miami & were willing to go back to Cuba & fight Fidel Castro & his troops..... The cia used those type of carbines so if any of the Cuban's that the cia trained were caught, Cuba couldn't trace them back to the US/cia.... Just Argentina.....
Why from Argentina? Because the main doctor in New Orleans that Dr Mary Sherman worked under. His name was Alton Oschner, and he had an office in New Orleans setup so Leaders from Central & South America could be seen by a Top-Notch Doctor. They came to new Orleans because the medical treatment was so much better/advanced. A South American Leader could get to New Orleans faster than most Americans could.
There was a Dallas Police car that stopped at Lee Oswald's house, honked the horn 2 times. That meant, ''Go To The Theater'' which was a rally point. His New Orleans cia handler was supposed to have him picked up so he could leave. The only problem was, they decided to make him the fall-guy for the assassination & with the help of crocked cops, they went there, beat the shit out of him, arrested him & without any legal assistance, questioned Oswald But Kept No Record of what was said. Then even when they knew he had nothing to do with shooting Officer Tippett, they pinned on him, along with President Kennedy's death. Talk about clearing a Court Docket Fast...
Oswald: Lee Oswald was in the Marines. He spent time in Japan on a US Base, where U-2 Spy Planes were based. When the cia came looking for men that wanted to serve their country by doing work for the cia, Oswald said yes he would do that. He Learned Russian. He worked with cia for about 5-6 years.
Don't listen to all the misinformation. Read Ed Haslam's book, ''Dr Mary's Monkey''. Once you read it, then you'll be able to see, Lee Oswald was a Patriot, not a ''Real'' Russian Sympathizer, or an Assassin....
@cobar53 Interesting theory I've never heard before. If LHO was the designated patsy it's plausible they would have a plan to eliminate him before he could escape the TSBD.
You have a few more years of research to do grasshopper 😂
She seems very legit but I have one big question and that is didn't her husband or ex husband say that she was lying? I heard that he said that she saw LHO on the tv and she said I know that guy I used to work with him. She does seem like she's telling the truth but I know scammers can be talented at lying and making everything seem legit. Very interesting though.
She went into hiding and married a Mormon out in the boondocks, and changed her name. It is probably likely that her husband knew very little of this for years, if at all. It wasn't until years later that she thought it was safe to talk about all of this.
This brave woman and her incredible story. She is a wealth of knowledge and some of the people in the audience were walking out. People have been so brainwashed by the government and the media it's truly pathetic.
shes part of disinfo crowd shes is lying about everything leading people in wrong direstion not helping
INCREDIBLE is right !
At all the JFK forums, they panned Judyth. Not successfully, no matter how hard they tried to pull some string of confusion that didn't matter. Pathetic display of gate keeping. Only me and Jim Fetzer felt Judyth's video testimony was as authentic as any witness could be. But, when dealing with Gov shills and operatives...you're dealing with boneheads and liars being paid handsomly. Believe me, when morons get paid way too much money by the government, they will always be loyal to their own self interest protecting their punk ego so they can feel righteous in service to Commie Community Gang Stalking. The dumbest most rigid and most defensive punks, were always Commie gang stalking filth.
I'm not brainwashed by the govt--look at today, however, she should have alerted all authorities. They all couldnt have been in concert on what was planned. I believe it was the CIA and mafia. Both had huge reasons to be pissed.
Those that walked out were sellouts from the start.....
I like the question. What did you add in to the history. She really didn't have anything new If you're riding a book on a historic subject, you're supposed to be adding something new, not rewriting whatever else wrote.
THANK YOU JUDYTH for being so BRAVE and TRUE. The Greatest of RESPECT and HONOR goes to YOU..... I AM real for I have always been REAL...
@Std Disclaimer a disclaimer with No Content--Like you know something--like what a joke??
@Std Disclaimer I only knew her of being one of the best investigators from college and DID work with these people she said she did for CIA was doing work on fast acting Cancer--If Fact Killed Gen Hollis that way-He died with left eye cancer- a very quick death. Again I knew her(knew someone was doing this not her name or anything) She came up with the story and it proved right with the right DR, involved the deaths and ALL..SO I believe for I Knew the story and found it out many years ago when I saw it on TV..Then just the other day-Saw it again but missed first part...LIKE I said KNEW the story Before her story(perhaps she stole it--does not seem practical) NOW you know my info.CIA was working on way to develop a Quick Cancer---they are always doing shit like that. A polygraph would work for me although Poly's can be beaten just like Thane Cesar after many years passed poly that he did not shoot Bobby---I KNOW BETTER.You can train if a long enough time frame to beat Poly but he could have had a bad or deceived poly examiner. 9/11 was a very big day--and Thane Died on that very big day 18nyears after 6+6+6 is 18.. SEE all my videos and you can claim I'm an Idiot also---that does not Mean I am.. and say I beat my poly's also. Had that vid about Judyth up but took it off. LEE was MK-Ultra but broke it and refused to shoot John. and was in door way CIA is great at twisting everything-good photo perversion..Again I have said here what I posted many days ago. I have no proof of knowing LEE and the only proof of me knowing John is buried in a grave.
@Std Disclaimer and look what they crossed out. Thanks for your info--you have mine and the Gen. Hollis I knew did die of Cancer--so why cross out?? How many crossed out comment have you ever seen--I get them all the time lets see this Go (artdugan.com) and see my genealogy--do Trowbridge History and see the three men's family tree.
@Std Disclaimer WHY do you think I told you that. YOU were SO stupid Not to look at anything I had on the utube,In ESSENCE a complete IDIOT for Not knowing how to RESEARCH anything. I also Knew how FUCKED up you were with your first comment and have led you quite successfully into the TRAP that you wanted to be a part of.(without Knowing) NOW I can Show the whole world what Kind of IDIOTS we have on Planet EARTH.
You have been HAD young Man(if that is what you are) I am Far more experienced than YOU--YOU took the BAIT and even went Over my Expectations. MY Genealogy is great and was Done by the President of the Genealogical Society 1908 when people were far more intelligent than they are Now.. I also have ample proof to prove many a thing besides what I showed you or anybody else. It is I laughing at YOU but also somewhat dismayed at the FOOLS whom roam our World---You are a dead man and know it Not-The FATHER will not let you be apart of the next Level(Not because HE doesn't want you to be BUT because you JUST Can't be--your mind(if you have one is Fried).
Satan is your father for he is THE liar as you are--you are quit perverted but think you're cool. The Pit will be your end. AGAIN you were LEAD into a TRAP that you so willingly deserved--you could have meditated on what you read and you would have said WOW-how can that be. BUT you desired the TRAP. You will REAP your reward--it just will not be what you hope it to be.. Have a nice Forever-how ever SHORT that will be. Congratulations for taking the bait Sucker-the great disclaimer.
@Std Disclaimer You make too much sense for this gullible fools .You’re exactly right .
Oh man..... could this woman be believed?
Thank you for standing up for Lee and yourself in loving and writing your truth. I believed at the time of the JFK's murderer was certainly not Oswald,
simply because the media's speedy delivery of the news often nullifies its credibility from the start. I heard Mark Lane speak at SF State College right
after the assassination, who further convinced me that this Oswald was framed. What became of Mark Lane, who wrote "Rush to Judgment" regarding
this tragic event? Is he still alive? Lee's great gift to you and us all was keeping silent about his love for you. He knew the world quite well.
Mark Lane passed away although you'd have to look it up to find out when.
I dont think it was Oswald. He told us so. It was the mafia and the CIA. Why did Bobby end up dead next? Who the hell was Sirhan Sirhan? What was his beef?
So David Ferry was a fairy??
And J. Edgar Hoover sucked...
But aren't you one?
yeah, the fairy was ferry.
I think there's a grammatical term for that, but I can't recall what it is....homonym?
and over a group of boys in the civil air patrol. man,talk about the fox in the hen house. then he yearned to be a catholic priest and do you see where this is going.
The smirk was on movie film live too
I had never noticed before how the end of Lee's fingertips are cut off in the backyard photo. I did know it was fake because of shadow problems and his square chin in it, but that is just more confirmation.
Look hard...goggle...find jack whites investigation on that background ph6
Did she ever say anything about any of this at the time?