I have a 404 mk2 that gathers dust because of a mixture of koala, Cubasis, segments and Sitala on an iPad mini, but something about this is so appealing. The storage limitation is a strange plus.
If you're anything like me (and a lot of other people who seem to gravitate towards Teenage Engineering's wonderful gear), you'll probably find the "restrictions" to be just the thing you need to produce some of your best work. We're overwhelmed with an abundance of choice in most respects of our lives, when you are left with a "limited" (not really, but you know what I mean) set of features/tools to utilize, you work with what you've got.
@@rorz999 I’m treating it like a rumor for now, just for a collective grin. For real though it’s another recent release of a fairly cool compact device. The price isn’t what I expected. That’s for sure.
I was wondering the same thing- are they going to miss the chance for holiday sales keeping the Akai Moc. Mini secret ? Will they just wait till NAMM in January? I do want to see what both machines can do before buying 1 personally
Actually this design is heavily inspired by the household - product company "Braun". Designed by Marcel Breuer, who was an Industrial designer mid 20th century in Germany. Also the apple products adapted this style of design excessively. You can just google "Braun Apple Design" and have a look for yourself, pretty interesting from a design standpoint. TE did the Braun design thing for several years now.
You mean it’s more than a calculator? This one can sample! The calculator Design is useful as a theft deterrent on your office desk. Will CVS be locking these up?
It only holds/has 64mb of data? To me it seems like their plan is to sell each PO in this upgraded form. So $300 for each. I wish they would sell this, but with all the PO sounds on it and make it firmware upgradable
There are so many type of audio device in music world, if I just start out and want just one device to do it all, is this or DirtyWave M8 Tracker better? How about OP-Z, OP-1 Field and many more? Can I use these without the MIDI keyboard and Audio Interface and just connect the Mic with a Zoom, Deity HD-TX, Sony or Tascam recorder? Is XLR mic necessary when I see some UA-camr just make sound to the internal speaker and directly mix it without post process the source first and also use a specialised mic? Is the internal mic omni or cardioid?
I have the M8 and it is better it is an incredible device I have samples that last 6 mins because they are stored on a memory card. I shall still be getting this device though because I have the original po33 and I think these would work well together.
The Dirtywave M8 isn't really comparable to this, its a completely different workflow. Get an M8 if you like the Tracker workflow, get this is you're interested in making more traditional beat-style music. Also, keep in mind that this doesn't have any real sound design capabilitys, it only allows playback of samples.
@@leonzewe- agreed, you really need to be into the tracker workflow to like the M8. Personally, it’s one of the very few types of sequencing that I really dislike.
Hey Pho! te recuerdo desde la epoca que hacias canciones con los fellas, que gran video! Una pregunta, sabes cuanto es el tiempo maximo de sampleo?? crees que sea suficiente para hacer live set como con una SP 404? gracias de antemano!
@@inventanew always been confused as to why there hasn’t been an iPad holder/case midi controller for koala. The self contained hardware/no wires look of that would be very appealing. To the point where people would buy just to permanently hold dedicated new or old iPads. Psychologically the wires are a big deal. Get rid of that and it’s best of both worlds.
So excited for this release..I dreamed a lot about it and finally is here.. What a game changer.. How much is the sample lenght? Does it works as an effect unit for external devices? Thanks a lot for sharing!
@@saren6538 9 projects each with 80,000 notes projects contain 4 groups, each with 99 patterns patterns have 12 TRACKS for samples and MIDI variable pattern length per group (1 to 99 bars) 12 mono / 6 stereo voice polyphony use groups to mix and match patterns on the fly record and automate all 12 fader assignments sequence in free time or quantized with swing assign any pad to one of 16 MIDI channels loop mode from OB-4 with length AND slide 12 pressure and velocity sensitive pads instantaneous timE correction and erase slice samples LIVE OR AUTOmatically stereo / mono sampling at 46.875 kHz / 16-bit punch-in 2.0™ effects (PRESSURE SENSITIVE) arrange quickly using the instant commit feature 32-bit float signal chain, 24-bit ADC / DAC SYNC IO FOR EXT. GEAR. 8TH, 16TH NOTE OR SYNC24 6 built-in send fx and a master compressor drag and drop samples using the sample tool 🤣🤣
Interesting trend in economics circularity here(?). Price something ‘right’ (cheap enough) and it’s actual features, & any of its limitations, become irrelevant. It’s the look, it’s new, so we buy it.
I am a critic of TE, as I feel their toys are over priced but I think they may have at last got things, right judging by the very fair price of this sampler. the KOOL factor is without question.
Yeah, and u can also crap in the woods instead of a toilet. Some people just like to do things with style and class. Not everybody wants to sit on a computer clicking on a mouse all day.
But do they have batteries and a speaker? This is important for me. I found one that does - the MPC Live II, but the price is 1,299 - and it is probably more complex to make and edit simple songs on the fly
@@maxwelljosephson5900 i have the mpc live 2 and it’s super fast and easy, of course had the batteries and speaker - and more. it’s really 50 times this machine and just as fast with work flow
@@RootinrPootine But it's not 1995 when MPC's had floppy disks for storage. And they did that out of necessity because it's all they had. TE's doing this to be like cool Hipsters "ohhh look at us, we have a sampler with the same amount of storage as a fully loaded MPC2000XL from almost 25 damn years ago" If producers in 1999 could have put more than 64MB in an MPC2000XL they would have. I could only imagine how long they spent constantly swapping floppy disks because they had so little space to work with. I'm not saying this needs a TB, but 64MB seems very anemic. even 256 would have been a huge bump.
absolutely wicked mate
Love the startrek sounds in thus, very apt as the device looks straight out of the show!
I have a 404 mk2 that gathers dust because of a mixture of koala, Cubasis, segments and Sitala on an iPad mini, but something about this is so appealing. The storage limitation is a strange plus.
If you're anything like me (and a lot of other people who seem to gravitate towards Teenage Engineering's wonderful gear), you'll probably find the "restrictions" to be just the thing you need to produce some of your best work. We're overwhelmed with an abundance of choice in most respects of our lives, when you are left with a "limited" (not really, but you know what I mean) set of features/tools to utilize, you work with what you've got.
looks like a fun middle ground between the pocket operators and the 404 mk ii/kaoss replay/mpc/etc tier of samplers
Every demo so far from everyone on UA-cam SOUNDS GOOD ! Everyone says its FUN. FUN 'cus the MUSIC SOUNDS GOOD !
Akai is watching TE eat their lunch ahead of the MPC mini announcement. Even I’ll be picking this up.
Is MPC Mini confirmed? Or just a rumour? I'm out of the loop
I see nothing for a MPC mini, where u see that at?
@@rorz999 I’m treating it like a rumor for now, just for a collective grin. For real though it’s another recent release of a fairly cool compact device. The price isn’t what I expected. That’s for sure.
I don’t think a Mini is ever coming. If it does it will be 3 hours battery life, and just be a remix with existing without anything creative.
I was wondering the same thing- are they going to miss the chance for holiday sales keeping the Akai Moc. Mini secret ? Will they just wait till NAMM in January? I do want to see what both machines can do before buying 1 personally
Sold. Incredible demo. Beautiful pacing. Thank you!
I'm absolutely a TE hater usually but I love this thing. Picking one up right away.
This KO will calculate your spirit and deem you worthy or not.
It's good for finger drumming? The pad are responsive enugh?
I like how you used the delay to create a drone type sound.
Self oscillating delay looks fun. I'd like the delay to be able to be time synced, but I guess you can do that by ear.
Sweet Nintendo came out with their own pocket operator!
Actually this design is heavily inspired by the household - product company "Braun". Designed by Marcel Breuer, who was an Industrial designer mid 20th century in Germany. Also the apple products adapted this style of design excessively. You can just google "Braun Apple Design" and have a look for yourself, pretty interesting from a design standpoint. TE did the Braun design thing for several years now.
Was this done compeletly w/o a DAW?
Yeah everything was done live on that unit as you see it in the video.
Seems awsome! Can we do Chord with it?
Yes.
@@gadblatz4841 how ??? Manually or you need to made them with multiple pad ? Or u can assign it to a pad ? Or record them and sample them ?
That sounds good I wonder how to handles 808s
TE says a factory reset will wipe the factory sounds. Is there a way to back those up and restore later?
new update apparently allows you to back up/restore.
Can it be used without a PC?
Im sure it *can* be used with a computer.
But does it *require* a computer?
Nope, it doesn’t
You mean it’s more than a calculator? This one can sample!
The calculator Design is useful as a theft deterrent on your office desk.
Will CVS be locking these up?
So I have put kick pattern 1 just to lower volume?
What about resampling options?
It only holds/has 64mb of data? To me it seems like their plan is to sell each PO in this upgraded form. So $300 for each. I wish they would sell this, but with all the PO sounds on it and make it firmware upgradable
Load PO samples and you're set.
Highly doubt they will be doing this for every po
@@1of500 I hope not
An insane amount of top 40 hits were made with 64mb or less, it's plenty of space.
Brah... Korg's Drumlogue for 7 hundreds have 32 megs...
Do you have mute groups when you sample so samples cut each other off??
Can’t wait
Can it be usb powered ?
Hi, are the punch fx available for the live input, so I can process external audio with them?
Definitely getting one
What is the internal memory amount ?
64mb, 999 sample slots. More than enough! You'd be fine. I think there is compression, hopefully lossless. 👍
*VERY NICE !* 😀🔥👍
I wish they made this in black!
I want it.
Only $300. Finally, Teenage engineering was like, "not everyone is a millionaire that can justify an OP-1 Field for $2k"
Who doesn't?
bought it!
I ordered it.
Lol sure blows the Korg Kaoss Replay out of the universe
ずっとあなたの新型を待ってましたよ…！
This have midi out?
Yes
There are so many type of audio device in music world, if I just start out and want just one device to do it all, is this or DirtyWave M8 Tracker better? How about OP-Z, OP-1 Field and many more? Can I use these without the MIDI keyboard and Audio Interface and just connect the Mic with a Zoom, Deity HD-TX, Sony or Tascam recorder? Is XLR mic necessary when I see some UA-camr just make sound to the internal speaker and directly mix it without post process the source first and also use a specialised mic? Is the internal mic omni or cardioid?
I have the M8 and it is better it is an incredible device I have samples that last 6 mins because they are stored on a memory card. I shall still be getting this device though because I have the original po33 and I think these would work well together.
The Dirtywave M8 isn't really comparable to this, its a completely different workflow. Get an M8 if you like the Tracker workflow, get this is you're interested in making more traditional beat-style music. Also, keep in mind that this doesn't have any real sound design capabilitys, it only allows playback of samples.
@@leonzewe- agreed, you really need to be into the tracker workflow to like the M8.
Personally, it’s one of the very few types of sequencing that I really dislike.
I own two Dirtywave M8’s and I also ordered the EP-133 yesterday. I can’t wait to use them together
Can I pan anything left to right?
Do it in a daw or get their mixer and pair it with this.
@@robertjamesonmusic but why can't it do simple pan so kick snare left and instrument to right SO I can add mix in daw
GO PHO!!! Hope you're well brother.
Bro! Good to hear from you, I didn't know you had this YT channel.
Cant wait to have monry to buy this thing
How much sample time?!?
immediate Yes!
Hey Pho! te recuerdo desde la epoca que hacias canciones con los fellas, que gran video! Una pregunta, sabes cuanto es el tiempo maximo de sampleo?? crees que sea suficiente para hacer live set como con una SP 404? gracias de antemano!
I need this
Wait till Koala steps in the ring!!!!!
if they make a hardware to compliment thats a game over
@@inventanew always been confused as to why there hasn’t been an iPad holder/case midi controller for koala. The self contained hardware/no wires look of that would be very appealing. To the point where people would buy just to permanently hold dedicated new or old iPads. Psychologically the wires are a big deal. Get rid of that and it’s best of both worlds.
Guess that’s what 3D printers are for tho too
Beautiful
probably cost as much as a push 3?
$USD299.
So excited for this release..I dreamed a lot about it and finally is here..
What a game changer..
How much is the sample lenght?
Does it works as an effect unit for external devices?
Thanks a lot for sharing!
looks like 20sec per sample
@@markbennett4316 Thanks for the reply
gamechanger ? in what way ?
@@saren6538 9 projects each with 80,000 notes
projects contain 4 groups, each with 99 patterns
patterns have 12 TRACKS for samples and MIDI
variable pattern length per group (1 to 99 bars)
12 mono / 6 stereo voice polyphony
use groups to mix and match patterns on the fly
record and automate all 12 fader assignments
sequence in free time or quantized with swing
assign any pad to one of 16 MIDI channels
loop mode from OB-4 with length AND slide
12 pressure and velocity sensitive pads
instantaneous timE correction and erase
slice samples LIVE OR AUTOmatically
stereo / mono sampling at 46.875 kHz / 16-bit
punch-in 2.0™ effects (PRESSURE SENSITIVE)
arrange quickly using the instant commit feature
32-bit float signal chain, 24-bit ADC / DAC
SYNC IO FOR EXT. GEAR. 8TH, 16TH NOTE OR SYNC24
6 built-in send fx and a master compressor
drag and drop samples using the sample tool
🤣🤣
@hellf.o stop lying
I wanted it even before knowing what it is.
I wanted it before I knew it existed!
@@Gazmatron82 I wanted it before I was born!
They’ve nailed the looks on this.
Bought!!!
It's a $300 calculator
Does it have note repeat?
Yes
Wait Is this polyphonic and stereo?
Yes
@@tothefxckinmoon4540 That's actually crazy, I don't think that's been done before at this price range
Need that
Looks like an desktop calculator but it sounds really cool! Thanx!
Bomba
Nice
Still only 4 voice polyphony?
12 mono (or 6 stereo)
TE > MPC
Is it really 299?... Purchase on sight!!!
What the pho?
glad its spacious for non teenager fingers
T H I C C NUBS
Interesting trend in economics circularity here(?). Price something ‘right’ (cheap enough) and it’s actual features, & any of its limitations, become irrelevant. It’s the look, it’s new, so we buy it.
Fcking awesome, I love Teenage Engineering
Can this calculator help me with my taxes?
They made it this way so you can write it off as an expense ; )
Really reminds me of casino vs japan
404 Likes when I got here 😆👍
wowowow
This a gem yo 🎉🎉🎉
I generally hate on te for their exploiting price point and very limited products. But for $300? I actually want it.
I am a critic of TE, as I feel their toys are over priced but I think they may have at last got things, right judging by the very fair price of this sampler.
the KOOL factor is without question.
Three hundo....yep
MPC + Nintendo NES
Has nothing on Native Instruments
Is there anyone who use this kind of instruments for creating other music instead off hip hop and related ….
why everybody who haves this instrument just make lo fi
You can also do this with a laptop.
Urgh, there's always one
Yeah, and u can also crap in the woods instead of a toilet. Some people just like to do things with style and class. Not everybody wants to sit on a computer clicking on a mouse all day.
@@Mar.Escobar24 I don't think your response had class, but what do I know.
@@tubeMonger welp 🤷🏽♂️
Looks like a calculator and sounds like a calculator and made by calculators. Lol.
It’s cool but if you have one of the modern MPC’s you have 20 times this capability and everything is easier
But do they have batteries and a speaker? This is important for me. I found one that does - the MPC Live II, but the price is 1,299 - and it is probably more complex to make and edit simple songs on the fly
@@maxwelljosephson5900 i have the mpc live 2 and it’s super fast and easy, of course had the batteries and speaker - and more. it’s really 50 times this machine and just as fast with work flow
This Casio calculator got bump...🤔
Seriously, just buy koala sampler 🤦🏽
only 3000 dollars and your first born
299 usd !
So, a more expensive Roland SP-404SX
Roland is for geeky peasants, this is a beautiful inviting object.
How so? Used SP-404SX costs around 300 dollars. This thing is 299 USD brand new on TE official website.
cheaper
Bro...what?
This cheaper new and looks very inviting
Waste of cash, I’ll keep my POa33 get a used portstudio and still have chang
64 Mb y all are a joke
That's just, like, your opinion man
(Nobody tell him how much memory the samplers had on countless of his favorite classic recordings 🤫)
that's several times the memory of say, a volca sample for a little over half. it ain't that bad.
I wouldn't brag about pocketing chang crumbs. Enjoy that free coffee.
@@RootinrPootine But it's not 1995 when MPC's had floppy disks for storage. And they did that out of necessity because it's all they had. TE's doing this to be like cool Hipsters
"ohhh look at us, we have a sampler with the same amount of storage as a fully loaded MPC2000XL from almost 25 damn years ago" If producers in 1999 could have put more than 64MB in an MPC2000XL they would have. I could only imagine how long they spent constantly swapping floppy disks because they had so little space to work with. I'm not saying this needs a TB, but 64MB seems very anemic. even 256 would have been a huge bump.
this has to be one of the most underwhelming beats ever made.
No thanks.🙂
Nice