I Have Omicron - 2 Week Update (Symptoms, Thoughts, Getting Back At It)
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- We have been putting out a series documenting and sharing my experience as a doctor having Omicron. This is the fourth video in that series. I provide a 2 week update on symptom progression and getting back at it. I discuss the later onset of cough and some persistent headaches. I also go through a detailed overview of everyday including new symptoms, improving symptoms, and trying to get back to my normal routine.
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I Have Omicron - 2 Week Update (Symptoms, Thoughts, Getting Back At It)
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Thanks for the video. Is there a testing strategy to tell when I'm no longer contagious?
I really appreciate your videos. It is nice to have an explanation for my symptoms. I am on day 16. I went for a short walk yesterday and in the evening I had severe pain in my back and extreme fatigue. It came on suddenly. Today I went on a bike ride and tonight I am experiencing fatigue and back pain. I have also experienced night sweats. I wake in the middle of the night hot. Then l can’t fall asleep. I have experienced those headaches you were talking about. I would get random shooting pain. Now they are gone thank goodness. Coughing seems to get worse when I am feeling stress in my body.
Great to hear you’re recovering. Hope it’s complete.
Thank you for giving such objective detail on your experience. I’m on day 5 of my illness and your videos have been invaluable in helping see the light at the end of the tunnel. It’s so cool to have access to an educated perspective instead of the same old regurgitated info about covid on the internet.
I just went through Omicron and am 4 days behind you in the timeline. After discussing everything with my GP he let me know a few interesting things - When you feel better and then worse it's basically you having almost gotten rid of the infection in your throat and the virus attempting to relocate to your upper sinus and bronchia as a last stand. So our immune system drops a gear to fight the virus again. The cough we speculated as a result of ARDS (we are dealing with SARS-CoV-2 after all) where we get more blood in alveoli than usual as a part of our immune response which allows for more fluid to remain in our lungs that we usually clear out. Whether this is linked to mild/unnoticeable Myocarditis or not is undetermined but possible. Now if you have co-morbidities such as being obese or asthmatic you are at a very high risk of pneumonia and secondary infection here. But most healthy people's body's will just spend a few days with a mild cough and a wheeze moving the excess fluid out. But this could be the main reason for the cardio loss, my GP and I expect it to bounce back quicker than when I had double pneumonia 19 months ago. For me it was a month until I was running reasonably and another month until I was at full speed. I'm expecting to be back at full speed within the month.
My symptoms and progression of COVID-19 were almost exactly as yours. Thank you for sharing your experience.
General recommendation from the world of long covid and now your experience: "lay low."
Being athletic is a _very_ common feature in the long covid communities I have visited. (I have not been infected.) Whether cause or effect or just a correlation, nobody knows... but there it is. I never conversed with many marathoners, or half marathon trained people, as I did there. Anyway, for everybody coming out of COVID-19 ramp up slowly afterward lest it cost you a lot of progress. You are not out of reach of the devil yet; ease into it.
I don't know what your odds are if you don't overdo it but if you get too aggressive I would bet they will be worse - and I don't bet except on sure things.
it's a strange manufactured feeling sickness. Symptoms unlike anything else
Glad you are recovering. I got it jan 1st and had 2 days of fatigue and sinus headache (with jaw ache), then 2 days mild sore throat. day 4 I was a bit dizzy but think it was lack of electrolytes due to night sweats. The rest of the time, I just felt a bit less energetic than normal and slept 20 mins mid day for a few days to give things time to heal . I tested again on day 11 and was still pos but it was really faint on the test after about 10 mins as opposed to bold and instant on the test done on the 1st. I am walking for an hour a day to build stamina back up now. Im unvaxxed , female and middle aged.
I appreciate your timeline layout and thank you.
I hope you continue to recover sir. Thank you for trying to help us 👍🏻
Absolutely! Thanks to you for checking out the video and for commenting!
Im glad you are almost back to your normal self. Well I have commented on my experience with covid to you before but I have a couple questions. Do you have or had during recovery increased pulse and elevated blood pressure? Did you lose weight? Did you feel a burning sensation on your lungs inhaling? I had and still have after over 1 year some of those symptoms. (Had original covid no vaccines at the time) I salute to all covid survivors out there!
Mine is a very similar experience to yours. Onset of symptoms the day before you. Currently back to normal for daily activities (walking at the park feels good again!) except hard exercise…I fatigue easily, so I’m making a conscious effort to ease into exercise very gradually. I continue to feel “pressure” (not a full headache) in my head and occasional runny nose, so almost, but not quite normal.
Thanks for sharing. It's helpful to hear another persons experience with Omicrom. I had similar experience in Dec/Jan. Tested neg twice with Rapid, 3rd PCR test came back positive. Most of my symptoms were gone around 2 weeks in, then ENT congestion came back. I'm 4 weeks in and some days/nights are great, some not so much. All vitals have remained good, chest X-ray normal. But just moments where anxiety and short breath kick in. Moments when mild ENT congestion kick up. I too have tried to get back to cardio and working out, but not ready. Focusing on nutrition, rest, stress management, recovery. Wish you well in your recovery!
Thanks for checking out the video and for sharing! We wish you a complete recovery!
Why do people keep getting tested? Lol. 😂the inventor of the PCR test (Kerry Mullis) said it was not to be used to diagnose viruses. We should listen to him and stop all of this testing. Stay home, rest, drink fluids take some ivermectin etc. mucinex is great for the ENT symptoms. We took it 2x a day starting on day 1 and we were over all of it in 10 days. Also took hydroxycloroquine
Quite similar symptoms to my own. I also felt as though I was done with it when an annoying cough appeared. Nothing scary or debilitating, just annoying. I am on the 3rd day of the cough and feel really good outside of that. Compared to bouts with the flu over the years, this has been quite mild. The worst part of it was 2 days of chills and body aches.
Take the regular Mucinex in the red/blue box. 1200 mg 2x a day. We hardly had a cough with ours.
The fatigue aches and headaches were worse than anything I had ever felt
Thanks for the detailed experience, mentally makes it better to prepare
Thanks for the update good you are feeling better. Very similar for me. Age 63 living northern England with one vax in March and taking high strength Vit D, Zinc and NAC. I was tested with positive LF and PCR early December had symptoms similar to you with some loss of taste also. Unusual for me I had very limited sore throat followed by tight chesty, tickly cough affecting sleep. Most symptoms gone after 12 days and feeling OK until mid Jan when chesty cough and heavy sinus affects returned. Its still lingering at the moment. Probably one of the most persistent colds I've had for 10 years
Could it be possible you had Delta beginning of Dec and have now got Omicron? My aunt and uncle both had Covid Dec. 3. Got better. Became sick again on Jan 8. Got tested and they were again positive but not as ill this time around.
I started on the 6th two days after you , I then discovered you here on u tube, I tried each and every day to stay up out of bed and be productive it was nice to hv you here to compare too -
I am glad you are feeling better back to life as normal - I am back at it as well -I am curious what my new normal will be I suppose it takes time to get full strength back
one day at a time …. It’s cold here in Pa. that doesn’t help the achy bones ha ha 😃
Great, useful information. Knowledge is power.
Thank you for sharing.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for checking it out
My reaction were almost identical and we tested positive on the same day! Triple vaccinated and symptoms were mild overall but did start to clear and then resurface with extreme nasal congestion and slight taste loss. My GP prescribed a Medrol pack on my request… being a nurse sometimes works in my favor! Returned to work on 1/10 and still had some fatigue towards the end of my shift as well as a sore neck/headache. Thankfully, this week has been much better-let’s hope this is it for us!
I also tested positive. Do we now have hopefully natural immunity?
I have had almost no symptoms (age almost 73; Moderna vaccinations and booster) and would not have known I had covid if my daughter (with whom I traveled out of state) hadn't gotten it. Like you, I had a negative rapid test one day and a positive PCR the next, even with no symptoms. However, I do have very, very mild symptoms: congestion up in my head, tickle in my chest and a sense of increased congestion there. I will have a day when I feel great, I am quite physically active, and then these symptoms increase. Rest more and they decrease. So your video is very helpful to me. Thank you!
My resting heart rate has increased since my recovery, and I am now beginning to get back to my 35-40+ miles of walking per week. Cardio definitely took a hit while quarantining in the basement, watching TV ... I guess that is not too surprising when one goes from doing 35-40 miles per week to 4 total the next week.
Thanks for the detailed rundown of symptoms. My 14 year old currently is on day 5 of Covid and this will give us good info on what to expect. She will want to immediately jump back into her rigorous dance/tennis commitments at the end of 1 week. I will now monitor much closer for longer. Thank you!
Sounds like a good plan. Jumping back in makes my hair stand on end, easing back in over a week or two would make more sense. The "long tail" of COVID has a wicked stinger that can lay people low for a very long time. Some people who were infected in early 2020 are still not recovered, and athletes are remarkably common in long covid communities.
We are glad to hear the video was helpful and hope they have a speedy recovery!
I started back doing some cardio within a week. She’s a kid. Let her do what she feels like doing. Covid not as bad on kids.
Thanks for your great videos. I was wondering how your illness compared to other colds you have had in your life
I’ve been looking for something like this. Thank you for posting. Vaxed and boosted. Started with sore throat and cold symptoms which lasted about 6 days. Now at day 16 and it’s sitting in my chest. At night I get a slightly sore throat, runny nose and have a dry cough. Problem is that I can’t really exercise as I don’t feel well if I do and my chest hurts after. It’s frustrating as exercise is my hobby and my stress relief. In a way its good to hear that my experience isn’t uncommon.
Glad to hear the video was helpful! Hang in there and wishing you a full recovery! If interested, we posted a most recent 2.5 month update video linked below.
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My case is exactly like yours .. thanks for sharing!
This is valuable information from a health professional. Did you have further tests either RATest or PCR, just wondering with the late return of symptoms and people here in Aus leaving isolation day 5-7 if asymptomatic if this is best practice.
Very similar and I got COVID on Jan 4th also so the timeline is almost the same. The wax and wan of symptoms in your timeline match with mine also. I did not have very bad headaches though. I did have a later onset but very productive cough where there was a lot coming up, I also had the fevers and night sweats, those were pretty bad. I feel pretty good now although I still feel a bit fatigued. I am doing light cardio, not pushing myself, using light weights at home. I will recovery my fitness when I am feeling 100. I am not a professional athlete or runner, I was working up to running in the gym using the treadmill when I got sick. One day at a time I guess.
Almost identical symptoms for me. 71 year old man. I'm un vaxed. I can honestly say that I never felt sick. I've had much worse colds, but they didn't last as long. Felt great at 18 days past positive test.
Forgot to mention that I lost smell and taste for a week. Not common with omicron.
Way to go 👏 🙌
Glad you are feeling better!!
I am still having to use my inhaler or nebulizer about once a day now. I’m asthmatic who tested positive on Jan 3rd after 7 days of being sick. Some days I’m absolutely exhausted also feeling like a wet dish rag.
Im on day 8 im asthmatic too still very chesty and still testing positive feel horrible some days
As a fellow asthmatic I’m sorry you are going through this. Hope this clears up soon. Are you doing any steroid treatments to help at all?
@@VermilionCandles yeah had a steriod inhalers using some steam therapy but just chesty still
@@GameWithViiP3R Hope you saw a Doctor, and if you catch Covid19 again please see your Pulmonary doctor for a course of corticosteroid pills in addition to your steroid inhaler, and rescue inhaler. Stay well.
Thanks. More valuable than an hour of reading random articles on the web.
We are so glad to hear that! Always our pleasure!
Hello Doc, do you have a video/perspective that talks about antibody development (duration/range/level of antibodies/testing for the same etc.)? Additionally, is there a point of view on how long one should wait for Booster after infection? Thanks for al the Awsome work and sharing knowledge.
March 1, woke up with nausea and vomiting. 1x. Diarrhea 3xin one hour. Stopped. Body aches, headache! Chills, fever for 3 days, no appetite . Felt better in 5 th day. Didn’t last. Tested neg. Then cough and congestion and headaches. On day 14 still so tired and cough continues.
Thank you. Very informative.
Our pleasure! Thanks for checking it out! We actually put out a several video series on having Omicron on our home page if interested!
Yep just about had the same feeling as you . I am on day 7 . I have always been a keep fit person just because I like it.now am 70 .did a bit of weightlifting ! . But could not do a lot . Head ache and a few other symptoms came back . Stop ed my work out and felt better . Now I still have some symptoms but feeling better . It's a bummer but will keep resting for a bit longer 🙄
Same thing happened to me. Day 14-16 I thought I was good enough to start weight training again 🙄 big mistake. After the third day of training I had massive headaches and palpitations. It’s like it can roaring back. I stopped again this is day 18 now. Still light headaches back pain that comes and goes.
How many days out are you? Symptoms still going?
With my longtime (40 years) post-viral fatigue syndrome experience (ME/CFS), I beg you, please do not exercise or push yourself in any way at all. This is how ME/CFS develops, with its common PEM, Post-Exertional Malaise, which it looks like you are experiencing. Resuming a walking or jogging routine is not the way back to health.
I will go so far as to say that the Omicron variant seems to set up a pattern similar to ME/CFS, which is a devastating condition. Check out Whitney Defoe's story.
Please, do not jog, walk for exercise, or go to the gym.
That is what I hear from many ME/CFS sufferers. Stay active but be aware that overdoing it can be a very low threshold.
Walking is awesome. That’s what I’ll do as I recover. Thanks.
Hi. Thank you for the update. I've been following along to see how you recover from Omicron. Myself I am day 8 of symptoms, day 6 from a positive RAT. I've experienced the same symptoms but in different order. To me it's the fatigue. I can barely get food ready and eat before I'm needing another sleep. Still have on/off cough, congestion and headache.
Thanks for following along! We are sorry you’re still feeling crummy and wish you a speedy recovery!
I am five days with the Omicron I feel grand today, I am enjoying eating again at last just a little weak. The first three days were rough terrible headache and fever sleeping all the time all I took was paracetamol, I am grand now and I am not vaccinated.
@@annbarron7415 there is nothing better than our wonderful natural immune system.
How are you feeling now?
Listening to your voice there is still congestion. You might consider Pepcid, 40mg or more twice or three times a day, to reduce mast cell activation, which is really the primary effect of covid.
Thank you .. ive experienced similar with the cough. I dont know if I've had omicron or not .. but u definitely felt better on day 4 .. well I'd only had very mild symptoms and didn't realise what it was at first .. but then days 5 to 14 the cough was and still is very annoying and quite challenging to manage .. and awful fatigue some days
This is my exact same situation. Triple vaccinated here. My symptoms were exactly like yours, and funny enough same dates, too. Better some days, worse some days. The congestion was terrible in the morning. I tested positive on rapid test for 11 days. I’m now almost back to normal but strangely, I started getting panic attacks which never happened to me before. It happened after I attempted to play tennis again. Heart was at 164bpm and I started having a panic attack for some reason. Going to visit a cardio next week to make sure nothing is wrong with my heart.
I suffer from panic attacks for years
Panic attacks dont really raise your bpm, It just Feels like it does; (that said, being “Scared” during the panic attack, like your mind thinking it’s something else; heart condition etc.. can elevate it) resting bpm of 164 is quite high tho. Elevated bpm has bn a sar-cov symptom since the start; I would still get it chked to be safe. Get well soon ~✌️💕☺️
Also, I see your comment/post was 9days ago.. please let us know what doc said
Psychosomatic immune response is a thing. Happened to me after recovering from a bad dengue fever infection. Highly recommend throwing in a daily low grade yoga practice to keep your nervous system relaxed more than anything else...It just fought a real nasty battle and is on edge at a DEEP level.
@@Bridgez777 panic attacks most definitely raise your bpm...you trippin
You just explained my EVERYDAY life exact days and all… I am 60 years old I have EVERY CO-morbidity I am vaccinated Pfizer and boosted I will return to work on Monday January 24th. I still have a very stuffy nose and dry cough fatigue I am a teacher and will try to see how my first day back goes. This is my third week just trying to get back into daily routines I get winded and can’t get my Pulse Ox oxygen number to get passed 93. I am trying to get my sleep back but am struggling STILL …I Pray to get WELL as I get back to work and work routines…please keep your very informative videos coming …Thank you!
It is recommended to take a melatonin every night to help sleep that way the body heals faster.
Every comorbidity?
It took me a little longer than you for my resting state to get back to normal, but definitely get winded very easily even with house chores some days. I was a swimmer, lung capacity at the top of my bracket, really hoping I get back to normal. I wonder if the extra capillaries and all that that get built up from having good cardio previous to covid actually make it worse by delivering spike protein to the area more effectively.
Thank you for your timeline. I'm on day 12. Had positive rapid tests on day 3 and again on day 10. I haven't had any headaches but have fatigue, sore throat and cough, congestion and back pain.
How are you feeling today? Are you taking anything
@@agag4866 Feeling fine except for slightly runny nose and cough which is usually worse in the evenings and at night. Taking Vit C, Vit D3 and Zinc.
Rapid tests do not give accurate readings. Get a PCR test, its more sensitive in detecting Covid
I'm on my day 9th for testing positive and day 11 for symptoms. I am getting a bit of headaches and coughs just like you. However my coughs has a little phlegm. Energy is OK. Hopefully nothing bad
I think I had Covid in March 2020. It was a mild flulike illness. I was definitely exposed. I went from fit to wrecked - some days just getting up and dressed left me sucking for air. I had a full workup - lungs and heart looked fine, but every time I got on the treadmill, the technician stopped the test within two minutes. My medical team decided I had long-term post-viral fatigue.
Roll on 2021. First vaccination - a week later I was feeling pretty damned good. Second shot and I was bouncing about, back to long uphill walks and doing strength training with an x-band. 6 months later, I started Emgality shots for chronic migraine. The headaches were brought under very good control but I gained 5 lb in the first week after the first shot, 5 lb within a week of the third shot. The third shot set off a horrible allergic reaction, and back came the fatigue and general malaise. Got the booster shot and started improving again.
Three weeks ago I got a mild flulike illness! Headaches, body aches, runny nose, sore throat, overwhelming exhaustion. One day of low fever on the third day. Next morning, all symptoms gone - but I'm again struggling to get enough air if I walk and talk, go up the stairs, or move too fast. Negative raid test but the wait was so long it took 10 days to get it done.
I don't know if these incidents are due to Covid. Circumstantial evidence suggests it was.
Looks like long hauler ! Did you get 4 doses ?? Wish you a full recovery really.
I am on day 10 and I am almost back to normal. Still got a little bit of sniffles and itchy eyes that's all. I am 56 ex smoker 6 yrs now with latent treated TB and not vaxxed.
You’re the first person besides myself to
mention itchy eyes. I’m on day 2 after positive test. Even though I’ve had symptoms off and on for almost a week, with sinus pressure, both ears hurting, nose and eyes itching, very dried out sinuses stated a week ago but tested negative on Jan 21 and on Jan 25. Became congested Jan 26, tested positive Jan 27. I honestly thought I just had some allergy/sinus going on and especially with two negatives within 4 days of each other.
Sadly, I had to quit my travel nursing contract early by a few weeks because my covid symptoms are still ongoing on day 10. Crushing fatigue, sore throat, cough/congestion and headache, lack of appetite. Looks like I’m in that percentage where it’s slow going. Glad you’re feeling better!
Try 1200 mg Mucinex 2x a day
How are you feeling now?
I am day 20 feeling much better but at times get the headaches .slight cough. Little fatigue
I'm having the symptoms from 28December
28dec-nausea,headache,body pain
These symptoms were present till 6th january.
Then on 6th january i went to the nearest hospital for RT-PCR test and the result was positive so i isolated myself for 10 days.
After 10 days of islation i feel better for only 1 or 2 days.
But from 21th January i have symptoms like nausea and little bit body leg pain and a small headache.
I'm suffering a lot
It's been 3 weeks since l had my first covid symptom of a sore throat.
I had most symptoms cough, sneezing, runny nose, swollen lymph nodes and a fever of 103 for two days after that 99 to 100 for 6 more days than it broke. However l feel very tired still and feel my heart once in a while fluttering. My heart rate is running high between 105 to 115. My blood pressure is normal most of the time. In the morning waking up with phlegm in my throat and coughing but okay the rest of the day. I wished l could shake this virus off for good.
I got Omicron on Christmas. Rapid test and PCR- positive. Symptoms: nasal congestion, headache, sneezing, fatigue, diminished smell and taste, slight tickle cough, red prickly heat type rash on both forearms. I also had a low-grade fever and back ache on day 5. The fatigue was debilitating and relentless. I had recurring symptoms of nasal congestion and tickle cough at night. It took me 16 days to recover. Today, I feel great, my energy has returned, and I am walking my usual 4 miles every morning. Taste and smell is back to 100%. I still tire pretty easily, but no other lagging symptoms. (Vaxxed)
Thanks for sharing
Always our pleasure!
On day 10, I still have cough and runny nose.
But no other symptoms.. havent been retested yet
Hi, thanks for doing this. I'm on day 10 of symptom offset and was a bit surprised to still be testing positive from rapid test. When did you first tested negative post infection?
Our pleasure! Thanks for checking out the video and we are sorry you’re still struggling with symptoms! I actually never retested. Our institutions return to work policy is based strictly on symptom duration/progression
Day 6 for me, 58 yrs old unvaxxed girl. Pcr positive. I took Iverm (rx) and have felt good. I'm a runner also and have either run or biked every day. I get stuffy at night and a little tightness in my chest is all. Thanks for sharing & hope you continue to heal!
Also took ivm, 34....was over it in 4 days
Hi, I tested positive on the 4. of february, headache, fever and severe body aches are almost gone. However I do experience that I get very tired in my arms, just by combing my hair. Any body else experiencing something similar?
We got hit worse, girlfriend came home Sunday evening last week, sore throat, Monday PCR positive, really bad stomach but did not throw up. Fever until Thursday, 3y kid started vomiting Wednesday night, after 5 hours 10month old started vomiting, Thursday night I spent all night in bathroom throwing up. Since then headache, back pain, sore throat, high fever (39,6’c) but has gone down now. Tonight, 10y kid started throwing up. This sucks. Be careful with Omikron, in Sweden we have several cases of where omikron attacks the heart, don’t raise your pulse until you are 110% fine.
Did your appetite got affected? Any nausea
My headaches are pretty bad and yes very rollercoaster symptoms and got my rapid test negative but it was 5 days after my symptoms showed. Sore throat thankfully is gone.
So…I’ve watched and very much enjoyed your videos for months. I watched your video when you got COVID and felt so bad for you! I’m a Pediatric RN in the States. Well…I woke up this past Saturday and thought oh God, oh God…crap. I felt AWFUL. Not like “Oh this may be COVID but, oh this will be test #7 and it’s not a lucky one 😩”. Super sore throat, cough, achy, fever to 101.5, chills, congestion, headache a little…I made an Urgent Care appointment and ordered Rapids on Amazon. So here’s the funny thing. I work at a Hospital based Clinic and we are doing Employeee testing so of course this would happen on a weekend. I felt worse as the day went on. Went to UC and got swabbed, the NP gave me all the things and was super nice. I was wheezing too because I am asthmatic and while I admitted to not using my albuterol because it makes me shaky, she sent in Levoalbuterol for me as well as a Z Pack if I felt I was getting Pneumonia and Prednisone which I equally hate because I’m an odd adult who gets croup from viral infections and has gone to the ED for stridor. While awaiting my PCR result my rapids came and I took one and as some of the liquid crossed the test line it lit up bright and clear. So…yep, PCR of course came back positive. I almost think I have the Omicron 2.0 with how hard and fast my symptoms came on. I maybe had a sore throat some of Friday that I could attribute to allergies. And maybe a little headachy before that but I get them anyway. I am down and out. Out of work. Can’t leave my bed barely…I am not a wimp 😕 Triple vaxxed too. Not fun but looking forward to some good immunity now!
We are so sorry you have come down with COVID! Hopefully it’ll go away as fast as it came on! Stay well and we appreciate all that you do!
Everyone has claimed delta and the original covid lasted 4 weeks with long covid symptoms lasting more than a year so what is omicron doing how long and any long lasting symptoms
Thank you for the update! This has been very helpful. My kids both had covid and PCR +. We did not isolate from each other in the house. Last Friday I started having symptoms (dry cough, congestion, runny nose, fatigue, moderate body aches (this was my most significant symptom), dizziness and mild headaches. I have taken 2 rapid and 2 PRC tests and all have been negative. I have had a pretty mild case (except for body aches and fatigue). I'm a long covid sufferer from Oct 2020. Unvaccinated but use IVM and hydroxy. Also hydrogen peroxide gargle, swish and spit. I'm wondering if these therapies are keeping my viral load down enough to continue giving me negative PCR tests. I was PCR tested on day 4 and 6 of symptoms. My doctor says they were more than likely false neg since I had close exposure and symptomatic (80% accuracy). I'm hoping these body aches do not linger. Evenings are pretty uncomfortable. Your updates have helped me so much. It is hard feeling like I do with a negative test and not knowing for sure if I had it or just imaging my symptoms lol. Antibody test 2 days before symptoms was weak positive (18.8). I'll recheck in a week or two to see if they increased.
Ivermectin will most likely keep your from having pos test.
@@dianasimplifies I now have a secondary sinus infection. Was tested again at day 13 and I'm still negative. No more PCRs. I took IVM for 6 days straight and I had thought I was completely recovered on day 6-7 day stopped IVM. By day 10 or 11 I woke with a severe sinus infection. Now I'm a mess. Restarted it, but it's too late. I'm pretty sick.
@@valerielong5047 oh no! Were you able to get some antibiotics for it? I have chronic sinus issues and it's no fun!
@@dianasimplifies yes. I started Doxycycline. Hoping that takes care of it. I have had chronic sinusitis also and 2 sinus surgeries.
@@valerielong5047 totally understand! Only had one sinus surgery and I hope I’m done with that! Lol! I use a compounded nasal rinse 2x a day now for several years. Helps a lot but isn’t 100% perfect at keeping me well. Good luck and hope it’s all gone very soon! 💜🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
When do you think we can start physical activity again after omicron? Today it’s my 14th day and my test came back negative. Still i don’t wanna make things worse. I go to pilates and take long walks other days. I’d like to get your opinion. Thank you 🙏
Thx for sharing ur experience w/ omicron . I did have also mild symptoms and tested positive. My first sympt was sneezing, runny nose mild cough the following wk i had back aches . I did have my vax.
The day by day symptom explanation is super helpful. I have noticed similar bimodal symptoms. Getting better after 5/6 days - almost back to normal. Then cough returning and again recurrence of feverish/congestion etc. after attempting some physical strain/activity. Since we are in winter, do you think there is likely hood of 1. Some other cold/flu/virus 2. Other variant of COVID-19 infection 3. Reinfection?
Flurona is possible. As the flu/cold is also pretty transmissible this year.
Though not need to be at same time , you could recover from one and get the other.
That’s good to know. Symptoms have shifted after 10 days and hence the thinking around different virus/mutation.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned, but I've been experiencing (I'm on calendar day 10, my work leave ended 3 days ago, though I haven't felt strong or well enough to return yet). An issue I've been experiencing is lack of appetite, as well as thirst. I've been forcing a daily serving of toast or saltines, and was able to choke down some yogurt yesterday. I, too, also have had the irritated eyes mentioned, as well as the agonizing headaches, and enough throat irritation to make speaking difficult. Fully vaxxed, also in healthcare, and upset over the recent 5 day v 10 day excused as I may now be in the unpaid leave area, in order to protect others from the wretched virus. Thoughts? Particularly on the lack of appetite situation?
Me too, lack of appetite bordering on nausea. If I’m hungry at all, it’s usually in the evening. Been 10 days of this but it’s getting a little better. Feel better soon!
I have no appetite at all!
How often did you test after getting symptoms and how many days after day 1 of symptoms did you test negative?
Thank yoy
This mirrors my own experience with the false dawn, feeling headaches when I dont get them normally, and most of all the loss of cardio. I was pretty fit before covid and my cardio has taken a huge beating. I've seen a lot of anecdotal reports in the running community about this too, even with mild cases people are seeing fitness drops outside of what could be expected via deconditioning. Someone needs to study this phenomenon!
Covid is known to cause myocarditis.
@@kyron42 i guess it could be that, but i thought that condition causes severe chest pain and exhaustion. Doesn't quite fit my experience
@@seriousbees I don't know if mild myocarditis is still called myocarditis.
Wish you a continued recovery. Not sure there's much to study regarding reduced endurance. A viral infection in lung reduces lung function. It's a question of speed and degree of recovery possible, and only time will tell that. I find it annoying we're two years into a pandemic and we have so few early infection treatments and all seem out of stock at moment. The vaccines against the first variant have sadly turned out to be a Maginot line defense and CDC and WHO utterly failed to have any backup retreat defenses on hand. Seems by time the new recently approved antivirals and Omicron specific vaccine are available we'll be well past the peak of this. For all our medical tech, it's humbling this is playing out just like the "Spanish" flu of +100 years ago.
There are lots of anecdotal reports of shortness of breath with activities that used to be fine. This symptom seems to improve within a week or two.
I have just lost a lengthy reply but here at my main points.
I had a sore throat and earache a week before the symptoms returned. Negative RAT
Then my symptoms returned 6 days later which included an immediate fever, an extreme sore throat , earache , cough and runny nose but no headache. I then had a positive RAT and PCR
I am wondering if I started having Covid the week before I was tested positive.
Suffering much the same symptoms minus the headache but unfortunately have terrible diarrhoea, how common is this or should I check with my gp
I am day 8 from positive rapid test. Had the same symptoms basically. Feeling much better now but taste and smell is gone at about day 6. And brain fog and tiredness are the only thing that is bothering me now!!!
Thanks for sharing! We wish you a full recovery!
Many years ago I had a headache but it was different than typical headaches in that it hurt more when I leaned over & exerted. I went by the local firehouse to have paramedics check my BP, which I was glad I did because it was almost 200/100 and I went to the ER. Do you know what your BP was during this time? Wonder if it was high. Did you take your blood ox during your illness? If so, did it stay normal?
My mother had 200/100 bp with extreme headache during omicron positive
If you don’t mind me asking, when did you go back to work? I’m on day 9, definitely experiencing similar waves of symptoms like you. I’ll feel great one day, then the next I’ll wake up with mild congestion and a headache. I hope to return back to work on day 12. CDC currently recommends 5 days of isolation, so I guess technically I’m in the clear. What’re your thoughts on when to return back to work?
Scratchy throat(not sore), mild congestion with an occasional dry cough (feels like a tickle), feels like something is way down in my throat. No fever or headache. I am trying to not be a hypochondriac and have been waiting it out. Thoughts???
Good to know, my time line is out to just past 4 weeks now. Sore throat gone, no real fever. During the first two weeks left side nasal passage was worse and ears were completely plugged up. At the end of week 4 ears cleared except random plugging, odd. Cough came on week 3. Mainly upper chest , so no real shortness of breath. But the recovery time seems to be extraordinary long. Anyone out there past 6 weeks? Notice that symptoms randomly come and go...
I too observe that fatigue just hangs on and on. The worst days for fatigue also seem to increase lingering symptoms. I posted my complete course, etc., above. The symptoms, duration, severity seem so variable from person to person I wondered if anyone else had an experience similar to mine. Also wondering if there is anything I should be doing that I haven’t tried. Thanks.
@@charlottepatterson2864 I have just started vitamin C (800 mg), Quercetin (500 mg), Zinc (30 mg), and vitamin D (5,000 IU)... I will report back! Keep your chin up, this bug feels very mechanical, almost as though it has to infect each cell of the nasal system.
@@paisleydreamzzz see my response to Charlotte, above. Good luck!!!
I’m surprised to read in the comments that no one is taking the new anti-virals or fluvoxamine.
Dr, what meds did you take? Even supplements or OTC?
They aren’t widely available. I heard from an employee that our local hospital received 20 courses of Sotrovimab (the monoclonal that works best against Omicron), in a hospital with 150 hospitalized covid patients and a county where thousands are testing positive every day. Almost no antiviral pills are available in our city.
Hi.. thanks for the video.. just tell me which day you had bath??
Thanks so much for the update! Similar experience for me... a 66-year-old woman with Diabetes and COPD. I feel like I'm getting through it and looking forward to being post-Covid fears... for as long it lasts...😊
Hello Ma'am, did you take any medication for COVID?
No… just NSAIDs and some cough drops… And, lots of Kleenex! I took lots of D, K, Zinc, and Mountain Mel’s Elderberry Syrup and Immunitea” for the last couple years. Had three Pfizer shots. I had Ivermectin in the form of horse paste, but didn’t use it as I wasn’t sure what dose was appropriate and I was pretty sure I could handle Omicron.
@@bonniecartwright8504Aspirin is a NSAID right? Can you take Vitamin K2 along with it?
@@Zqosh I take a baby aspirin daily. Also, alternated ibuprofen, acetaminophen, and naproxen for head and body aches for a few days while continuing to take D & K. No problem as far as I know….
Interesting video on symptoms. I’m vaxxed and boosted but still got the Omicron. Similar to your symptoms. But I’ve never really felt that fatigued. Mostly headaches, and I’m the same, I rarely get headaches. Sore throat, sinus felt stuffy, mild cough. No fever, but I did have night sweats. And what is weird, is I’d start feeling better, then the next day it’s back. I’m on day ten since I got sick, feel like I do after a bad bout of the flu. I haven’t tried to do a run or bike ride, mainly because it’s snowing and cold outside. But I’ll try and get in a snow hike next couple of days to see how my lungs do. Still, for an old 61 year old, this stuff isn’t that bad.
first thing that hit me was waking up to a headache, which I get sinus headaches normally....treated it like I always do and it was gone within 2 hrs....most of my symptoms were mild...fever below 100f cough and sniffles, aches....by day 3 I felt better and fever disappeared, however day 6 or 7 slight fever came back and so did the cough...no sore throat , didnt lose taste or smell.... cough and sniffles would come and go for the next few days....
during this time it got really cold outside and the cold air triggered my cough, it definitely had an effect on my lungs as I would feel slightly winded so I covered my face to avoid breathing it in. I am 3 weeks out from first symptoms , still have some slight drainage which will trigger a cough and the cold air will make me feel winded if I am doing something physical outside ....I have been sleeping more than 8hrs per day, taking 5000iu d3+ mk7 - multivitamin- zinc - 1000mg vit c- non vaxxed- non smoker - lost about 10lbs due to eating broth during sickness ...I am giving it another month before I start working out again
On Day 9 (double vaxxed and boosted) and my symptoms have followed a similar trajectory as this. I have had random chills and cold feet more than fevers (although I did have two nights of waking up hot and sweaty).
Anyone try the synergistic combination of 40mg diphenhydramine and 400mg lactoferrin, as published from in vitro studies out of U of Southern Fl, last month? Apparently, the combination, when taken together exhibited over 95% efficacy in neutralizing vital replication. Granted, this is in lab, but a potentially promising area for the creation of a trial study (which is unlikely any time soon.) Just curious as I am holding that in my back pocket as an Alamo option on top of daily D, C, NAC, zinc supplements.
QUESTION: When is it time to start considering long covid? I've been symptomatic since December 21st and it's really starting to concern me. Had my booster on October 14th. All three shots Pfizer. Haven't called the doctor because no breathing concerns or fever and didn't want to contribute to clogging up the medical system.
I think it means lingering symptoms beyond what’s typical. Most people recover within a few days to a few weeks. But if it’s a severe case then it may be a few months. I’ve read long haulers have issues mainly with fatigue. Hope you feel better really soon!
It took me months (about a good 2 months) to full bounce back. After returning to work it just wiped me out and it almost prolonged my symptoms. I ended up having to leave my job because I could do my job anymore. I worked at a very physically demanding job though and I was rushed to come back before I should have.
I had a lot of dry cough. Other symptoms similar to yours, except I had no fever and only 1 day of mild flu like symptoms, body aches and headache. Took theraflu felt better the next day. That's when the burning sore throat came. Had it 4 days, until I took severe cough Nyquil. Knocked it out. After that it was just malaise, mild headache and cough.
Hi everyone. I would like to get an opinion on my own Covid experience. I tested positive with PCR on Monday. I had my first symptoms on Saturday- I felt very cold, had a fever of 37.4 and felt week also having a mild headache and back ache. Sunday the fever got a bit worse but paralen worked and got the fever down. Since yesterday I feel perfectly fine, no fever or aches. Do you think it can still get worse or was that it? I am 32 years old and otherwise very healthy. Also I did not get vaccinated. Thanks for any opinion 😊
What days did you eat or drink anything? Days 5-8 I did not eat food except a little broth (day 6?) and sips of water on all days. I finally have some Pedialyte but it is so sweet I cut it with water.
Waiting on my results. I haven't had much fever. Maybe at night. But I've had about the same as you along with feeling better only to crash back down as soon as I get active again.🥴
Fingers crossed for a quick recovery!
Are you using any of the early treatment protocols? It seems you are having a pretty severe case for Omicron.
We were around a child who tested positive we found out. Within 48 hrs started getting symptoms. We started on supplements and on Ivermectin and our symptoms were completely gone by day 4. Many people became I’ll at the same time ( as we had all been at the same party) none of them took Ivermectin and we’re sick much longer.
Did your doctor prescribe it? It’s not hard to get treatments... I’m on day 3-4 and would like to get it.
You can also look up protocols and start on vit d, c, zinc
Don't wait
If you're high risk look up monoclonal antibody in your area
Very similar timeline, I am on currently day 10. I felt good this morning, but I still test positive on the home antigen test.
Symptoms started April 6 with chills, RED EYES, and sore throat, ---> low energy and weak, sharp headaches days 2-4, productive voluntary cough. ----> felt a lot better on day 6 and started light exercise, ----> felt ok but tired on days 7-9, slight fever every now and then ---> degraded to lots of sleep and exhaustion on the afternoon of day 10.
The order of my symptoms has been:
-- very red eyes, different than allergy eyes (day 1)
-- chills (likely fever but did not measure it)
-- sore throat
-- fever [99.1 -- 100.1]
-- joint pain, especially in previously (old) knee injury
-- upper back pain
-- slight dirreaha
-- fever returns [99.5]
-- productive upper respiratory voluntary cough/clearing junk from sinuses and throat
-- energy loss, feeling weak (day 10)
I can feel I lost a lot of strength and cardio, although I felt like exercising yesterday I did not. I have not had an involuntary cough yet. Taking Mucinex each day, 5000 IU of vitamin D, and ~ 100 oz of fluids per day: lemon water, hot tea, and kombucha. Vaccinated and boosted (10/12/21) with Pfizer.
Hi 👋 my cough came back for some reason with shortness of breath - after a week out- have you done anything for your cough Dr? I try to be calm… 😢
I'm asthmatic , came down with covid 5 days ago
So far the achiness has subsided no more headaches, I have a slight cough , stuffy nose, still running low grade fevers at night waking up drenched with sweat.
Is this as bad as it gets or does it get worse ? I'm so afraid my lungs are goin to get hit . Is there some sort of time frame the respiratory gets hit? Anyone know? Is this omicron stealth as bad as delta and the first one that came out ?
I have a fast heartbeat i don't know what is the reason behind this please explain me
Are you considered contagious after 10 days? I tested positive after my 10 day quarantine, does it mean that I might have dead virus cells because I still have a cough lingering but that might be my body recovering with me being vaccinated.
Depends on what test, I was told that the PCR( the one that tickles your brain) can be + for 90days, but I believe u aren't contagious after 2weeks
Anyone know how long it takes to not be contagious anymore or to test negative?
How long would you have been contagious?
When did your repeat PCR test turn negative? Glad you are recovering well, and thanks for your educational videos and sharing your experience
January 3 and 4tchy throat (not sore) : thought maybe a cold.
Jan 5: nose stuffy and drippy and headaches . Binaxnow negative but isolated anyway. I DO get migraines bur these were NOT migraines. In fact much less intense: just a faint headache that I could ignore and hung around for a few days. Then Jan 7: suddenly ran a 100.5 fever all day and fatigued: felt flu like tired. Binax positive. Took PCR. Found out later it was also positive.
Jan 8 to 14; stuffy nose, not so runny, not so much fatigue after fever resolved on Jan 8 to 99 degree and Jan 9 normal temp. intermittent hacking cough with a little mucus but not much. Binax still positive but fainter red
Week Jan 15 to 22: cough diminished bur still there. Nose less stuffy. A little tired occasionally. On Jan 18ty Binax negative. I was not wanting to use up kits so might have turned days earlier
Jan 22 to today (27th): occasional faint irritation based cough . Onve in a while feeling of tiredness but this may simply be stress or emotional tiredness because started working out to 15 minute exercise videos again: no stamina issues. I do get frequent post viral coughs after any resp. virus si not surprising cough still with me.
I think I am continuing to recover and will get better and better over next few weeks I am 63 and in moderate shape .
Not an athlete but not in worst shape either
For me the worst symptom was fever and persisted from Saturday through yesterday. Thankfully it never cracked 99.6, however it was odd in that it seemed to be on a 2 or 3 hour cycle between that peak and 98.6. Even when I had H1N1 that started out with a 103.5 fever, the fever only lasted three days and for normal colds it's usually a day or two at most.
Other symptoms include runny nose and sneezing on the first day, sinus congestion the first two days, fatigue that varied throughout the day from day 3 on and the last couple of days minor lower GI.
Today is day 8 and I feel normal, but we shall see what late afternoon brings. That's when it usually sneaks back in after a reasonable good day.
How did you feel after this?
@@stephen918 Funny you should ask...
I felt a little bit of chest congestion late on Day 8 so as a precaution I made an appointment for the next day. By the time of the appointment the congestion cleared up and they did a RAT & PRC swab. Both came back negative.
Three days later I came down with similar symptoms, made another appointment and this time tested positive. They also swabbed for flu and that came back negative.
Most like the first time was flu but they didn't swab for that and I'm betting I picked up COVID the first time I went in.
Anyway it was very similar except one night fever hit 101.1 and I had a really bad headache. I also had a few nights of chills.
The first time I was tested was 1/22 and that was negative on both RAT & PCR. Symptoms started on 1/25 and the second time when I tested positive was 1/27. Symptoms ended on 2/4 and I did two home RATs on 2/5 (positive) and 2/6 (negative).
So a little worse than your average cold but not close to a nasty case of flu. I'd say mild flu because that's what I probably had the first go-around.
I'm a healthy 62 with no known comorbidities and unvaccinated. I do maintain a good diet and have been supplementing with D3 + K2, Zinc + Quercetin, NAC and C from the beginning.
@@justasimpleguy7211 Wow, flu then Covid!
I am on day 9/10 symptoms. I had the slightest of coughs for the first couple of days but then it went. Bad headaches, sinus pressure, and runny nose and fatique. No temperature. Yesterday was the first day I started to feel normal. However, by the evening I started to feel fatique again. I woke up this morning and I feel awful. Bad body aches, headache and exhaustion. I am hoping this is the last push before I recover properly.
@@stephen918 I understand for most people it takes 1 - 2 weeks for symptoms to clear. I get antsy around day 3 of any bug. :-)
It does seem to drag on, especially some mornings when I would feel better only to feel worse later in the morning or by noon and feel crummy for the rest of the day.
And then one morning it was just gone. I half expected it to come back later in the morning, then noon, then afternoon but it never did.
Hoping you get that day ASAP.
@@justasimpleguy7211 Thank you!
Didn’t have cough initially then developed a cough after all other symptoms gone is it normal? Like a sudden irresponsible urge (like a strong itch in chest) to cough all or a sudden every hour or so, the urge subsides usually after 4 or 5 coughs…
Same here
Yes, I have had Covid 3 times now. The last two times the cough came after I felt better and I would cough up chunky, sticky stuff.
@@dragonflyoracle4679 did any of you need to take any kind of blood thinner to minimize risks of blood clot developing?
I’m not vaxxed at all and I got Omicron from vaccinated people. ( I was only around vaccinated people, it’s 95% here) . I had chills the evening of Dec 30. Woke up with body aches, chills horrible headache and severe fatigue. Felt this way for 2 days. On day 4 my symptoms were gone but a bit weak. By day 5 I was back to normal and I am a sedentary 60 year old woman. I’m glad I didn’t get vaccinated. The adverse reactions from the vaccine would probably have been worse than the actual symptoms from COVID.
Fairly bad symptoms for a young lad like you. I am taking bid NAC, quercetin; daily zinc and Vit D, awaiting omicron. My booster was 9/29/ 2021 so I am past the 12 weeks of safety and I feel everyone will get it. There is no sotrovimab left in my state, so I will take Luvox if testing positive. Hope you have full recovery!
Yeah it knocked me out a bit more than I expected, to be totally honest. Fingers crossed you somehow evade capture but agreed most likely inevitable. Thanks for the kind words!
Hi Hannibal, you might want to obtain an RX for ciclesonide ICS (aka: Alvesco) being that your at high occupational risk of exposure. Ciclesonide showed an 82% risk reduction in ER visit or hospitalization when taken as outpatient. It's in a peer reviewed paper in JAMA. Those efficacy #'s are in the realm of the famed Paxlovid and Sotrovimab which are almost impossible to obtain for mere mortals. They played some games with the endpoints in the RCT. The original Primary EP was progression to ER or hospitalization but mid trial they switch the original Primary EP to Secondary and made the new Primary EP Full resolution of all symptoms by 30 days. Then they reported the trial as a failure since it didn't meet the primary end point. I feel the COI section explains why the switch was made. Nevertheless, the reduction in hospitalization is very impressive for an easy to administer, widely available, repurposable therapeutic with a well known safety profile. There is another P2 RCT that showed impressive results published in MDPI. Ciclesonide also showed potent antiviral activity in vitro against SARS-CoV-2 which supports an additional MOA beyond the typical ICS immune modulation.
Yes take all that also but following FLCCC Alliance new updated protocol.
no Vit C?