The word 'just' does an incredible amount of heavy lifting. The bible, specifically the old testament as plainly read, will offend most people with a modern moral compass (Christians included) AND there's also a lack of rational reasons to believe in the supernatural claims of the Abrahamic religions. The text of the bible is full of bad moral ideas and bad ideas about how reality operates, and frankly it's not really a problem to point out the former when morality is so often lifted up as a selling point for the abrahamic god.
The morality of the old testament in many ways is FAR better than the mushy morals we have today which are abysmal based around equality and the rule of the weak. But that's beside the point. Even if your modern sensibilities were offered that alone wouldn't make the Bible any less true. This was the whole point of my video. Nature is offensive. The weak and the unfit die and the strong reproduce. Runts in a litter often die off because someone has to get the short end of the stick. Too much compassion is a weakness and will get you killed or hold you back. None of these are comfortable truths, but they are nonetheless true.
@@andrewtc95 The lack of morality in the old testament isn't proof of the lack of truth in the old testament, but it IS proof of the lack of morality in the abrahamic god, even if we were to concede the truth of the bible (which, as we both know, we have no reason to do). I don't see a need to respond further. Your love for hierarchy outweighs your lip-service to rationality. Social Darwinism was the means by which a racist population rationalized its knee-jerk reaction to the idea that humans from non-industrial civilizations aren't meaningfully different from anyone else. It's based on a rudimentary misunderstanding of evolution. Humans did not rise to the top of the evolutionary landscape through means of force, cruelty, and superiority, but through means of social cohesion and the sharing of strategies.
I'd say we evolved with a mix of co-operation and use of force. In more recent history, the 13 states co-operates with each other and subjugated the natives and Africans. Depends on who you're dealing with. Also, morality doesn't exist. Our modern sensibilities largely come from our abundance, ease of living and our ability to export the ugly parts of our reality so we don't have to deal with them. Most of us are no more moral than a kid who simply hasn't had to make any difficult decisions. Off course, it's easy for us to have some pretense of morality.
Yeah murdering womenand children, genocide by a flood, endorsing slavery, excusing sexual assault, and sending people to eternity in torment just for not believing in god does offend my moral sensibilities. If Gods law was written on my heart like it’s supposed to be for everyone I don’t think I would find a problem with the events in the Bible.
In Reality, Nothing You said is Your View. Its just Rubbish You Copied from Other Atheists. Gen Gyicuide By Flood? Really that's Stew-Pede. By The Way, The Bible does Not "Endorse Slavery". It also does not Excuse Sexual Assault. None of that is Really in The Bible and I Already Know what verses You Talk of such as Deuteronomy 22. The One where Ithioth Aye Thee Yists say teaches a Woman is Forced to Marry Her Reepist. It doesn't Say That, but I am Really Tired of being Told I Have Cognitive Biases and Suffer Cognitive Dissonance and My Explanation is Mental Gymnastics. By the way Gpod is used as a Name. Telling Me god is not a Name but a Title is also Stew-Pede. It doesn;t matter that god is a TItle, We still Capitalise TItles when They are used in Place of a Name. Also, God is Not a Title. No Christian Beleives Peopel are sent to hell for an Etwernity of Tirture just for not Beleivign in God. And You Know that is Not Really what Christians Beleive. You are Not Truth Telling. None of the "Moral poroiblems" with The Bibel the Pastors of Your Aye Theee Yistic Rey Log In are Rational and You are not Rational. This is Not a Valid Objection to Chrystyanyty. its just Junk You WUoted from an Aye Thee Yist Site.
In Reality, Nothing You said is Your View. Its just Rubbish You Copied from Other Atheists. Gen Gyicuide By Flood? Really that's Stew-Pede. By The Way, The Bible does Not "Endorse Slavery". Cont Below.
@@jazzywolfpack9782 If the Bible's god was real than all of those things would be justified and moral. With atheism there is no morals. Just your feelings.
@@andrewtc95 So commanding people to kill is okay. Even though the Ten Commandments say Thou Shall not kill. Don’t you think it’s important for God to practice what he preaches. If he is all powerful and all knowing and can know the future he knew those people would turn evil and he still created them knowing that so he is responsible. If Gods responsible for everything then why can’t we hold him accountable for anything.
The word 'just' does an incredible amount of heavy lifting. The bible, specifically the old testament as plainly read, will offend most people with a modern moral compass (Christians included) AND there's also a lack of rational reasons to believe in the supernatural claims of the Abrahamic religions. The text of the bible is full of bad moral ideas and bad ideas about how reality operates, and frankly it's not really a problem to point out the former when morality is so often lifted up as a selling point for the abrahamic god.
The morality of the old testament in many ways is FAR better than the mushy morals we have today which are abysmal based around equality and the rule of the weak. But that's beside the point. Even if your modern sensibilities were offered that alone wouldn't make the Bible any less true. This was the whole point of my video. Nature is offensive. The weak and the unfit die and the strong reproduce. Runts in a litter often die off because someone has to get the short end of the stick. Too much compassion is a weakness and will get you killed or hold you back. None of these are comfortable truths, but they are nonetheless true.
@@andrewtc95 The lack of morality in the old testament isn't proof of the lack of truth in the old testament, but it IS proof of the lack of morality in the abrahamic god, even if we were to concede the truth of the bible (which, as we both know, we have no reason to do).
I don't see a need to respond further. Your love for hierarchy outweighs your lip-service to rationality. Social Darwinism was the means by which a racist population rationalized its knee-jerk reaction to the idea that humans from non-industrial civilizations aren't meaningfully different from anyone else. It's based on a rudimentary misunderstanding of evolution. Humans did not rise to the top of the evolutionary landscape through means of force, cruelty, and superiority, but through means of social cohesion and the sharing of strategies.
I'd say we evolved with a mix of co-operation and use of force. In more recent history, the 13 states co-operates with each other and subjugated the natives and Africans. Depends on who you're dealing with.
Also, morality doesn't exist. Our modern sensibilities largely come from our abundance, ease of living and our ability to export the ugly parts of our reality so we don't have to deal with them. Most of us are no more moral than a kid who simply hasn't had to make any difficult decisions. Off course, it's easy for us to have some pretense of morality.
Yeah murdering womenand children, genocide by a flood, endorsing slavery, excusing sexual assault, and sending people to eternity in torment just for not believing in god does offend my moral sensibilities. If Gods law was written on my heart like it’s supposed to be for everyone I don’t think I would find a problem with the events in the Bible.
In Reality, Nothing You said is Your View. Its just Rubbish You Copied from Other Atheists. Gen Gyicuide By Flood? Really that's Stew-Pede. By The Way, The Bible does Not "Endorse Slavery". It also does not Excuse Sexual Assault. None of that is Really in The Bible and I Already Know what verses You Talk of such as Deuteronomy 22. The One where Ithioth Aye Thee Yists say teaches a Woman is Forced to Marry Her Reepist. It doesn't Say That, but I am Really Tired of being Told I Have Cognitive Biases and Suffer Cognitive Dissonance and My Explanation is Mental Gymnastics. By the way Gpod is used as a Name. Telling Me god is not a Name but a Title is also Stew-Pede. It doesn;t matter that god is a TItle, We still Capitalise TItles when They are used in Place of a Name. Also, God is Not a Title. No Christian Beleives Peopel are sent to hell for an Etwernity of Tirture just for not Beleivign in God. And You Know that is Not Really what Christians Beleive. You are Not Truth Telling. None of the "Moral poroiblems" with The Bibel the Pastors of Your Aye Theee Yistic Rey Log In are Rational and You are not Rational. This is Not a Valid Objection to Chrystyanyty. its just Junk You WUoted from an Aye Thee Yist Site.
By the way Killing in War is not Murdsr. I Know The Dyvyne Proufit AranRa mMiost Holy says that but he is an Ithoith and So are Yew.
In Reality, Nothing You said is Your View. Its just Rubbish You Copied from Other Atheists. Gen Gyicuide By Flood? Really that's Stew-Pede. By The Way, The Bible does Not "Endorse Slavery". Cont Below.
@@jazzywolfpack9782 If the Bible's god was real than all of those things would be justified and moral. With atheism there is no morals. Just your feelings.
@@andrewtc95 So commanding people to kill is okay. Even though the Ten Commandments say Thou Shall not kill. Don’t you think it’s important for God to practice what he preaches. If he is all powerful and all knowing and can know the future he knew those people would turn evil and he still created them knowing that so he is responsible. If Gods responsible for everything then why can’t we hold him accountable for anything.