2 quick things to address. 1. What I said at 03:16 is false. The way her HP cap works is if an enemy has 80/100 hp and takes 10 damage from Sunset, they will have 70/90 hp, not 80/90. This is not the same as Yuuhime. So Raven is much better streamlined for HP capping. 2. As a few of you pointed out, the priority for AOE pursuits is the first target. While that is true, she then shouldn't be on CD. Likely a bug (I'll report)
Tevor is now a broken shimmer like nuxi and xu but the rest of the shimmers not so. They have to buff the other shimmer espers too, so it feels better to use one and when you get one by luck that you have now a advantage, in my opinion.
This, as rare as they are, you should feel rewarded getting one. Imagine the frustration of pulling a Raven. Even before the patch it was disappointing as fuck, now it will feel insulting. The whole concept of shimmers is that they are rare and better versions of other espers, like Cecilia is a better Abigail to some extent or Unas should be a better Clara. Raven should be a better Loki IMO.
Im glad she’s getting buffed but, I’d like to see her sunset damage% bumped up, her awakenings changed from Hp and accuracy to crit rate and speed, and for her sunset skill to not just be dumped if she kills someone. That one seems more like a bug but hopefully some more tweaking comes to her ESPECIALLY since they buffed Tevor to the point they did. Raven should be just as respected as all the other shimmers but unfortunately she’s not a top pick really anywhere
I already have a R2 Raven so i’m very disappointed at this rework because her current R2 is MUCH BETTER Right now she can extend the cooldown of all enemies and they took that and replaced with just a tiny bit more damage This definitely is a nerf, wich is sad for a character that was never really that good, to receive a rework that actually made her even worst
They should change her ascension stats as well. Her s3 is a 100% debuff if she is faster than the target in ascension 3 so she definitely need spd/crit there.
I don't care if Raven broken, meta, so-so or bad I just want her 😤 I can't even complain about 2/3 of my Shimmers being Tevor but still give me my goth mommy Lilith!
That's the thing with pursuits. They don't happen on the selected target, they happen on the first target in line. So if the first enemy in line gets killed, no pursuit happens. I know because of Cube Miracle and that one rune that gives everyone a 30% chance to perform pursuit attacks.
Yes this is true and with yc r2 You can SEE that it's the first enemy hit the one That gets the persuit. When an AOE hits everything at the same time the first esper in the line up Will be hit by the persuit. There are some skills like eira s3 that hits everyone but in secuence. She hits like the esper back on the left first and that one gets persuited.
That's so true! The 30% chance to pursue in Cube only works on the first enemy who is hit (or the one that's the first in the lineup) Funny enough, most front lines in Cube have the highest resistance + HP stats as well.
Was it enough? I dont feel so. With how crazy the Trevor changes were i feel the best option for this kit is to simply reduce the damage of sunset tremendously, but get just reduce its cooldown to 1 turn, or get rid of it alltogether
I assume a Biondina might help her with reducing her S2 CDs. Speedier Biondina that is. Removing buff blocker became a double edged sword imo, since we need enemy buffs to strip, to spam her S2 more.
im pretty sure AOE skills count as targeting the enemy leader or if the leader is dead then slot order, regardless of what you actually target. So if that enemy leader dies then the pursuit wont happen. untested just an assumption
I just realized that they removed buff blockers from her a2..... why ? That's so shit man , I thought she could easily cripple a team with that, also dont know why they changer her R2 from the CD reset to something else. ITS A SHIMMER LEGENDARY THE RAREST UNIT IN THE GAME. This change seems pretty meh overall. They took away too many things to compensate for the pursuit. The least they could do is make the pursuit 2 CD and when u abiimon, its down to 1CD or just make it not have a CD....... ORRRR They could make a new little gimmick that her A2 pursuit CD reduces based off of turns in general not just Ravens.(When an ally moves pursuit CD reduces or something like that)They didnt do this for tevor. Yeah Bob you see this Pure dps esper with no spd scaling , lets change his ascensions and make him faster and guess what, you see this speed scaling dps made to be fast lets not touch her ascensions at all.
For me it's already really good that she can nuke real hard with her combo on S3 > S2 without worrying about buffs at all 250 spd can do over 300% her atk on a single round on AoE, with def down applied Def Down, Speed up which would get her speed to 325 or 281 if the buff applies only to base speed Using 281 spd: S3 = 120% + (0.16%*281) ~= 165% S2 = (45% + 15% [unbuffed] + (0.08%*281))*2 = 165%, and R1 gets the +10% final damage So that's a 330% AoE with def down that removes def buffs, think that's a pretty nasty Given they fix the pursuit bug, that sounds like some very good numbers for a character who's supposed to be one of the first to go
Nope, not a bug. The pursuit attack thing only works with the first enemy in line. This also happens in the Cube Miracle with that one rune that grants your team the ability to make pursuit attacks. If the target (or first enemy in line for AoE) gets killed, no pursuit attacks.
@@utlukka950 i see what your saying just sucks that if not skilled up its on a 4 turn cd making it basically trash. Even at 3 turns it not going off is a nerf to her kit imo.
Im soo lost. How is it a balance patch if they make this... and tevor. Shouldnt they be BALANCED they are both shimmer 5s fighter class.. how tf are they balanced 😂😂😂
tevor becoming the beast that he is but raven being this still is on purpose. raven was on the ssm banner. more people have her. that’s kind of it. why make her genuinely that strong when she’s been more accessible. gabby literally got removed from full accessibility.
Some of you guys are way too salty😂. I think she got a buff overall. Speed scaling and guaranteed strip on enemies with lower speed and pursuit? Pretty good I’d say. Buff blocker removal was eh. Not like it couldn’t be cleansed. She’s not exactly a main attacker but she’s def stronger. What are yall complaining about?😂
Sounds like a skill issue. She doesnt necessarily have to go first. Just fast enough to dispel on squishies and stuff. She can still dispel on supports and stuff so idk what you’re on about. Then again im running Tevor so that’s why it isnt a problem for me
@@uyubi1117 she doesn't do anything bro compared to other shimmers and the fact that strip buffs can be done by other non shimmer espers is definitely useless on her so......
2 quick things to address.
1. What I said at 03:16 is false. The way her HP cap works is if an enemy has 80/100 hp and takes 10 damage from Sunset, they will have 70/90 hp, not 80/90. This is not the same as Yuuhime. So Raven is much better streamlined for HP capping.
2. As a few of you pointed out, the priority for AOE pursuits is the first target. While that is true, she then shouldn't be on CD. Likely a bug (I'll report)
could you also ask them to add speed and crit dmg/ rate into her ascension? maybe ask them to you know buff her a bit?
Dislyte balancing team needs a balance adjustment itself I suppose lol, the difference in performance between Raven and Tevor buff is insane
Tevor is now a broken shimmer like nuxi and xu but the rest of the shimmers not so. They have to buff the other shimmer espers too, so it feels better to use one and when you get one by luck that you have now a advantage, in my opinion.
This, as rare as they are, you should feel rewarded getting one. Imagine the frustration of pulling a Raven. Even before the patch it was disappointing as fuck, now it will feel insulting.
The whole concept of shimmers is that they are rare and better versions of other espers, like Cecilia is a better Abigail to some extent or Unas should be a better Clara. Raven should be a better Loki IMO.
i just got her ad my first shimmer :'D ... So she's the worst?
@@guillermogomez1679yup
Id prefer the old abilities but with the speed scaling
And here I was excited for some Raven action...
Im glad she’s getting buffed but, I’d like to see her sunset damage% bumped up, her awakenings changed from Hp and accuracy to crit rate and speed, and for her sunset skill to not just be dumped if she kills someone. That one seems more like a bug but hopefully some more tweaking comes to her ESPECIALLY since they buffed Tevor to the point they did. Raven should be just as respected as all the other shimmers but unfortunately she’s not a top pick really anywhere
I already have a R2 Raven so i’m very disappointed at this rework because her current R2 is MUCH BETTER
Right now she can extend the cooldown of all enemies and they took that and replaced with just a tiny bit more damage
This definitely is a nerf, wich is sad for a character that was never really that good, to receive a rework that actually made her even worst
I Agree we just have to enjoy that Raven is much better RN until they fix her
Don't tell me this!! I just got her as my first legendary shimmer :'c
i think the cooldown on her second triggering without the skill activating is a bug and i hope they fix it
Wow it feels like she got nerfed instead...
They should change her ascension stats as well. Her s3 is a 100% debuff if she is faster than the target in ascension 3 so she definitely need spd/crit there.
I don't care if Raven broken, meta, so-so or bad I just want her 😤
I can't even complain about 2/3 of my Shimmers being Tevor but still give me my goth mommy Lilith!
Can't wait for the next Raven buff lmao
That's the thing with pursuits.
They don't happen on the selected target, they happen on the first target in line. So if the first enemy in line gets killed, no pursuit happens.
I know because of Cube Miracle and that one rune that gives everyone a 30% chance to perform pursuit attacks.
Yes this is true and with yc r2 You can SEE that it's the first enemy hit the one That gets the persuit. When an AOE hits everything at the same time the first esper in the line up Will be hit by the persuit. There are some skills like eira s3 that hits everyone but in secuence. She hits like the esper back on the left first and that one gets persuited.
That's so true! The 30% chance to pursue in Cube only works on the first enemy who is hit (or the one that's the first in the lineup)
Funny enough, most front lines in Cube have the highest resistance + HP stats as well.
I agree. But her s2 shouldn't go on cd at all
@@DaddyF2P yeah thats an easy change i think for them to implement avoids feels bad moments
Was it enough? I dont feel so. With how crazy the Trevor changes were i feel the best option for this kit is to simply reduce the damage of sunset tremendously, but get just reduce its cooldown to 1 turn, or get rid of it alltogether
I'm also a little irked that she needs to strip a buff to apply a sear on her S1
Ikr, she needs allot going right to do good damage whereas tevor can just spam brain dead
I cant wait to cleave with new Raven
they did raven dirty lol...
So sad
Dope
what do you think of raven in stun set? :)
she could be built as 2nd fastest after speed booster so that you get 4 attacks with chances to stun.
Thanks for this.
As her passive is on rotation, how do you think she compares to Triki (R2)?
She's definitely better than triki at buff stripping but she's a dps esper, not a controller
I assume a Biondina might help her with reducing her S2 CDs. Speedier Biondina that is. Removing buff blocker became a double edged sword imo, since we need enemy buffs to strip, to spam her S2 more.
Wouldn’t wind set be better because spd helps her a lot? She’s kinda like Sander right?
They removed buff blocker from her second skill.
That's pretty bad :/
i didnt even realise the removed buff blocker from her A2.... thats really bad i thought it remained
wtf i didnt even realize that, they actually nerfed her in a way
Raven changes would feel a lot better if the tevor changes would have been not so crazy as they are 😅
I wonder if we will get a jj buff, now that him and Cici are probably on the low end for shimmer 5 stars
Buff blocker is gone this is a nerf hidden by them making tevor op poor raven she was my first shimmer
Same. I am gonna miss her old skills.
me can't wait to get the buff on her.🥺
New raven looks neat, still would rather get Unas, Nuwa, XP, or Tevor at this point. She is now in line with like JJ and Ceci 😂
im pretty sure AOE skills count as targeting the enemy leader or if the leader is dead then slot order, regardless of what you actually target. So if that enemy leader dies then the pursuit wont happen. untested just an assumption
does giving her an AP boost, make her faster than her target?
or is that based on the speed before anyone moves?
spd stat, not ap
I just realized that they removed buff blockers from her a2..... why ? That's so shit man , I thought she could easily cripple a team with that, also dont know why they changer her R2 from the CD reset to something else. ITS A SHIMMER LEGENDARY THE RAREST UNIT IN THE GAME. This change seems pretty meh overall. They took away too many things to compensate for the pursuit. The least they could do is make the pursuit 2 CD and when u abiimon, its down to 1CD or just make it not have a CD....... ORRRR They could make a new little gimmick that her A2 pursuit CD reduces based off of turns in general not just Ravens.(When an ally moves pursuit CD reduces or something like that)They didnt do this for tevor. Yeah Bob you see this Pure dps esper with no spd scaling , lets change his ascensions and make him faster and guess what, you see this speed scaling dps made to be fast lets not touch her ascensions at all.
yeah lilith had a lot of bias when it came to balancing raven. Raven got the short end of the stick.
For me it's already really good that she can nuke real hard with her combo on S3 > S2 without worrying about buffs at all
250 spd can do over 300% her atk on a single round on AoE, with def down applied
Def Down, Speed up which would get her speed to 325 or 281 if the buff applies only to base speed
Using 281 spd:
S3 = 120% + (0.16%*281) ~= 165%
S2 = (45% + 15% [unbuffed] + (0.08%*281))*2 = 165%, and R1 gets the +10% final damage
So that's a 330% AoE with def down that removes def buffs, think that's a pretty nasty
Given they fix the pursuit bug, that sounds like some very good numbers for a character who's supposed to be one of the first to go
Seems like a bug with the new passive not following up when killing. Yikes was really hoping raven was gonna be better. Tevor ftw i guess
Nope, not a bug. The pursuit attack thing only works with the first enemy in line. This also happens in the Cube Miracle with that one rune that grants your team the ability to make pursuit attacks. If the target (or first enemy in line for AoE) gets killed, no pursuit attacks.
@@utlukka950 i see what your saying just sucks that if not skilled up its on a 4 turn cd making it basically trash. Even at 3 turns it not going off is a nerf to her kit imo.
Yeah first in line is right. But it shouldn't go on cd
Im soo lost. How is it a balance patch if they make this... and tevor. Shouldnt they be BALANCED they are both shimmer 5s fighter class.. how tf are they balanced 😂😂😂
Welp guess my raven is forever benched
Dislyte balance team is a joke confirmed.
Why sphinx > isis
Its no normal
Because riddles 😊
tevor becoming the beast that he is but raven being this still is on purpose. raven was on the ssm banner. more people have her. that’s kind of it. why make her genuinely that strong when she’s been more accessible. gabby literally got removed from full accessibility.
Thats scummy
Soo basocally. You gt be losing the fight to cooldown passive lol
Stupid rebalancing I hate this patch gg lilith
not as impressive as tevor's rework
Some of you guys are way too salty😂. I think she got a buff overall. Speed scaling and guaranteed strip on enemies with lower speed and pursuit? Pretty good I’d say. Buff blocker removal was eh. Not like it couldn’t be cleansed. She’s not exactly a main attacker but she’s def stronger. What are yall complaining about?😂
She dont buff block.. soo shes speed tuned and goes first bc of speed.. then they just buff.. she dont do shit LOL
Sounds like a skill issue. She doesnt necessarily have to go first. Just fast enough to dispel on squishies and stuff. She can still dispel on supports and stuff so idk what you’re on about. Then again im running Tevor so that’s why it isnt a problem for me
Also if the enemies are cutting in front of you that’s also a skill issue.
@@uyubi1117 she doesn't do anything bro compared to other shimmers and the fact that strip buffs can be done by other non shimmer espers is definitely useless on her so......
@@markjohnleano2117 She applies def break too? She’s still more or less the same. Yall just complain about everything😂