God, that first clip is just so heartbreaking… Basically, two officers who were old friends, one on the Russian side and one on the Chechen, recognized each other and tried urging the other to retreat.
they fought together in afghanistan, together survived afghanistan to come back to a fractured country, and ended up on 2 sides of a war it doesn't get more tragic than this
it looks like it has always been good comrades killing each other in eastern europe for some spec of tiny land. now we see ukrainians and russians killing each other like total strangers ,many officers from both sides knows each other and even got trained together.
1:36 "I would like to inform you that the former general's statement about razing a city and their inhabitants if they fail to vacate was a bad joke. For you see he forgot to end the statement with 'lmao jk' "
The main two generals of each side in the US Civil War, Grant and Lee, were classmates at West Point, and they fought together during the invasion of Mexico. I'm not sure how well they knew each other though.
@@AnalniyBanditit was the first Chechen war which was less Islamic and more nationalistic and the islamist forces really became prevalent in the 2nd chechen war
During the American Revolutionary War, many officers on the British and American sides knew each other quite well because they fought together in the French and Indian War
"Leaving the village for the hospital in Grozny, I passed a Russian armored personnel carrier with the word SAMASHKI written on its side in bold, black letters. I looked in my rearview mirror and to my horror saw a human skull mounted on the front of the vehicle. The bones were white; someone must have boiled the skull to remove the flesh." - Khassan Baiev -
god that first part with the chechen talking to Alik is tearful, seeing the original video for it is recommended. it really does show brother against brother in those wars, brothers who once fought for the soviets in equality, brothers who now fight against each other.
@@mateopribyl9218 nah talking about only the Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts, the other 2 oblasts under Russian occupation don't count has wanting to be independent.
@@stepanbondarenko9880 Lovely, lmao. Not gona lie, my country, Brazil, has some nice aspects, but that's all. Corruption, high crime rates that makes some scenarios similar to a war zone even if there is no civil war, bullshit agro economy, plus being a prostitute to developed countries - some people even criticize you if you have some sense of nationalism. However, yeah, wouldn't change this to go in eastern europe. ❤
@@stepanbondarenko9880 @stepanbondarenko9880 well, as I said, wouldn't change this piece of shit for some place on the east, Russians endure hardships that I can't even think of. Them and other people like guys from the Middle East and Africa possibly have the most ficked up places to live. However, it's funny to see some refugee grandson calling Brazil a hell.
What made Ichkeria Republic Strong, It's Militias. Backfired the second First war ended. Heads of militias became warlords. and political power came through the end of a gun. Basically afghanistan today. It blew up in their faces when Bashayev decided to invade Dagestan. Then things turned from depressing to blood freezingly horrifying (Terror attacks and their unseen scale in Russia, And unforseen destruction in Chechnya.Which made it very different from the tone of first war)
Why? Israel lost to Hezbollah in 2006 when they invade Lebanon, Israel also hasn't win for more than 9 months against what is basically, a bunch of militia in a strip in the map even after they took their gloves off and disregard any proportionality principle in IHL. Never underestimate a well armed militias defendong the country they knew well, besides, Russia totally won the second war.
@@briantarigan7685 There is a huge difference in loosing a war and loosing a war. Israel didn't loose a brigade worth of men and equipment now, nor during the 2006 war. Russians lost it within three days. Israel also isn't loosing in Gaza right now, but that's besides the point.
Yeah that first Battle of Grozny was horrible....yet again there's a clear difference between the 2022 Russian Army and the 2024 Russian Army. Almost completely two different forces one uses BTG's and Armored Warfare the other Division's and Artillery/Air-power.
@@gregorylouis617 of course, both armies are learning and adapting...I think both Ukrainian and Russian are toughest warriors in the world right now, they have more experience in modern combat than anyone else.
russia wasnt bad in 2022 just small forces and too costly to do deep operations against fortifications with modern satalite and drones russia as of late 2022 just wanted to kill as much as possible and diudnt care about capturing new territory and as of today we can see it was effective
@@axdde6428 What should scare people is the Russians adaptation in usage of fpv drones, ground-based drones (with weapons even!), Lancet, Glide-bombs (FAB 250 > 3000) and their kill-chains are fast asf right now.
In the end almost all non-Chechen population (about 34% in 1989) was removed and Russia subsidizes the economy of Chechnya with billions. Such a victory.
It's unironically not about money, it's about sending a message. Letting the USSR fall apart is one thing, letting a subject of the Russian Federation to secede unilaterally is another thing entirely. Imagine Texas declaring independence. Imagine it actually going through with it and seceding. Imagine how many other states would look at that and decide to follow suit. Even Yeltsin the retard understood that if allowed to happen, it would kick off a disastrous domino effect that would balkanize the entire country.
@@SBF_983 Ahhh, denying the truth because it’s easier to live your life comfortably and praise the country based on what they say on the news. Thank you for disregarding human life, you’d make a great soldier, feel free to volunteer for Ukraine.
Alik died the third day of operation in grozny the Feb 2nd, tried to evacuate 40 wounded men... 13/40 survived and tried to scape through destroyed tanks next to the train station... among them Alik
Not sure why the video ignored quite a big event happening in 1st war, which was the catalyst for peace negotiations, the capturing of the hospital with 200 hostages in neighboring Russian republic Dagestan.
Imagine being some dweeb Soviet student that went on holiday to Chechnya in 1988 being sent there as a soldier in 1994 because the government bungled the economy so bad it caused a War of Liberation
@@ivarioIt's just one of the historic excuses that do not explain why only Chechnya became the mess and not others ethnic autonomous republics that also experienced harsh deportations. The fault for situation escalating into total war laid mainly on Dudayev's policies that did not seek any compromises. He took power in "democratic elections" where he was the only candidate, he befriended Islamic fundamentalists to strengthen his autocratic rule and actively tried to build some kind of anti-russian coalition in Caucasus with him as the leader when Moscow didn't even start to do anything against separatist threat and actively seek peaceful negotiations like they managed to do in Tatarstan. And what people actively forget, the First Chechen war started only after Russia involved itself in the already ongoing civil war in Chechnya, where pro-democratic Chechen forces for six months already fought against Dudayev's dictatorship after he abolished his own constitution
@@Ocelot835 Just because he was the only candidate in the first election, negates all democratic actions that happened later? And was the opposition that democratic really? I do say that probably he got too cozu with Islamists, but that really only became a serious factor after he was killed. P.S. what other republics besides Crimea did you mean? Crimean pro-Russian radicals tried to stoke lots of bogus trouble around 1992, for instance
@@ivario what democratic actions? After electing Dudayev there was no any other elections and he from the first day in power tried to strengthen his positions as the only one who have real power. Even mebers of Dudayev's own party tried to oppose the president power grap despite everyone still supporting Chechnya independence. In 1993 Dudayev even had his own "Black October" with dissolution of parlament, constitution and independent court system so no one would have questioned him anymore. Those why opposition forces formed inaurgence that lead to Russian involvement. And about deportations - Dagestan had its own history with it. Plenty of others ethnic minorities in North Caucasus also, not harsher than Chechens had. Yet only they seek ultimate independence while others was fine to negotiate with Moscow for expanding limits of their autonomous status while still being part of Federation
The map of the Dagestan Republic at 2:05 includes Crimea as a contested territory, however Crimea was annexed only years later in 2014. Otherwise great video, teared a bit at the start
Russia: With tens of thousands of soldiers, aircraft, tanks and unlimited military power, and with dozens of military, generals and experienced officers, captures Grozny in 3 months, suffering heavy losses (The assault on Grozny 1994-1995 is one of the most disruptive assaults in Russian history) Also Chechnya, during the battle for Grozny in 1996, has 1000 militias without equipment, air support and armored vehicles, the operation was commanded by General Aslan Maskhadov, and captures 90% of the city in 3 days, and after 4 days Russia officially declares that it lost this war.
@@lillyie "ЫЫыыы кыив за тры дняяя" я тебе напоминаю что уже в самом начале войны российская армия была под Киевом, но получила приказ на отход после Стамбула, которым Зеленский подтёрся. Теперь он подтирается правами человека, загоняя на бойню тех, кто не сумел или не успел сбежать из "эуропейськой демократичьной страны".
What kind of unlimited power are you talking about before the first assault on Grozny? When the only one who trained was Rokhlin’s corps? Or about how the same units of the Marine Corps were recruited before deployment, cramming in everyone they could. Or about the officers who sat as drivers because the conscripts didn’t really know how to drive? You foreigners don’t even suspect what was there.
@@slavguy look man I doubt Putin had "conscripting violent prisoners" and "retreating after having nearly surrounded Kiev" in his plans so something went wrong big time
@@imgreen2563 I am not downplaying the importance or tragedy that those wars represent, every war is a tragedy regardless of context. I’m simply referring to the general atmosphere and pointlessness of the Chechen Wars.
the war on islamic sate in syria, iraq, and lybia was worse. i know you probably think islamic state was this big monster the tv would make them out to be but in reality they were just angry men with ak’s but their opponent was the entire world with jets and tanks. america and russia together bombed a town in syria iraq border for weeks, every day and night, then afterwards the media pointed at the thousands of corpus on the streets and said “isis did this”
In the start he said: Alik, come on maybe somehow until it's too late return your men Alik, don't do this, don't. In every case Alik you will die and I will die, what will it change? Right, who will win, we won't survive, you understand? (I changed some words because I couldn't write them in english)
2:01 TRIVIA: About those apartament bomb1ngs, there is a major conspiracy theory that it was the russian homeland inteligence (FSB) who actually made it It's said that one night, some building inhabitants called the police after seeing a group of suspicious looking guys near the apartament block, the cops found a rigged explosive left inside and the b0mb squad defused it in time; however, they noticed it wasn't some homecraft device like most terr0rists do, but it was the same kind of explosive used exclusively by the Russian Armed Forces. The press started raising questions about this detail, to which the FSB stepped forward saying that everything was just an emergency drill, despite happening during those bomb1ngs; some argue that P*tin and his allies orchestrated the attack to raise his support for the 2000 election and the 2nd invasion of Chechen.
To me the craziest part of this isn't that Russia was likely killing its own people, it's that at one time for a brief period, there was a press in Russia that could question the government.
@@park1776 Donbass doesn't get western countries approval for independence, so they can't unless they ask russia. and then we arrived at today's predicament.
I once spoke to a former FSB agent, that particapted in Chechenyia war's. He told that one of the reasons why chechenians were capable to hold for such a long time, was because its immidiatly became a gathering place for all sorts of radical islamic terroristic groups from different parts of the world. He told that the tactics of chechenias was to steal young boys from the families in order to indoctrinate to to terroristic ideologies, which make them loyal pretty fast. What was making things worse, is the fact that there was an enormise spike of terroristic attacks in between chechenian wars. This is also why russians acted the way they act. There wernt fighting chechenians. They were fightns terrorists, who forcfully recruit young boys in they ranks. If you need a proof, just look who were the supporters of the Ichkeria.
@@muhammadfasihkhan8508 I am curious. Why are you so sure about your point of view? Do you have some sources, that are the most objective of them all? Or you just going from the words of western media and blogers? Then what does made you believe, thar they are not lying to you? And its not like I said some controversial thing. There are open internet sources, even the most basic ones, thar tell you about terroristic supports during chechenian wars. Its only fairly recently people stoped talking about it.
"Lol winter war funny because lots of dead". Finland lost 1/3rd of it's territory, a devastating amount of population for a country of barely 3-4 million at that time and a huge amount of kids became refugees in Sweden and Norway, with many never returning. Fuck your meme.
in finnshit fantasy, in reality casualty ratio was close to 1 + finland lost (twice in a row). nowadays the term for political cuckolding (finlandization) proudly wears that name
I suggest to everyone who watch this video a Russian YT historian and military channel name "Tуземный совет трудящихся" - who making good videos about Post Soviet Era, especially about Two Chechen Wars
Yes, they did. Thing is, their successful military campaign don't attract as much attention, even if they happened in the same time period. Nobody is talking about how Russians demolished Japanese in Khalkin Gol and Manjuria, but everyone talks about how they lost the 1905 war to Japan. Nobody actually analyzes their successful tactics in WWII, choking their success to bullshit "human wave attacks". Objectively though, Russian army had tough time starting from late 80th onward due to a variety of policical, social and economical factors. It's only now finally getting in shape. Also, most of the time when they fought they did not actually have a numerical advantage. In Ukraine, for example, they had numerical disadvantage from day 1.
@@communist754 With the WWII part, it also didn't help that we pretty much let the Germans both write the history of the war and handle the editing, and you can guess what happened.
The soviet military was pretty decent, but it started getting worse in the 80's, and it had the same inability to deal with insurgencies that the american army still has. Once the 90's came, post-soviet militaries went downhill, and some (like Russia's) weren't brought up
Whats crazy is that in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia has suffered at the very least, 7x the amount of casualties in both Chechen Wars. Edits: Removed "10x" for "7x" as upon review this number suits better. And comment is worded bit better
@@ИванМатвеев-й2р How about you look stuff up. BBC confirms 50k dead, Oryx tallied ~15k visually confirmed losses, with nearly 3k being tanks. US estimate in Dec 2023, 315k Russian casualties. UK estimates about 500k Russian casualties. Compare this to the fact that Russia took about 50k wounded and 6-14k dead in the first war with another 6-14k dead in the second. While casualty counts vary wildly, let's assume about 60k casualties from each war at the least, that's 120k, which is nothing compared to Ukraine.
I would like to thank my god father for restoring peace and stability in my country. He got PTSD to ensure that me and my siblings grow up in a country safe from separatism and terrorism, where Islam and Christianity live in peace and prosperity. Unfortunately our government wronged us and decided to destroy everything by invading Ukraine. Still, my god father is a hero for keeping the country together in those troubling times. He couldn't have known how it would turn out. Спасибо, что живой!
F for our chechen brethren and sisters who martyred in this wars putin had to strike a deal with some pro russian chechens to win over the chechens sad that all these sacrifices weren't enough but what can you do when a collaborator pops up.....needless to say them chechens gave russians hard time may allah grant them paradise.
As an American, I wonder if the Second Chechen War occurs in the Russian popular imagination in a similar way as our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan do in ours, having a parent who fought in both when he was still active duty.
@@DiamondKingStudios Nowadays the only war is the great patriotic one (the part of second world war from the invasion of Germany in the soviet union to the occupation of Berlin), mostly in upbeat tones, in the past it was more about mourning and less about giant parades, there was a time where the Afghan war was discussed, mainly from the point of unnecessary loss of soviet lives
@@asschezchok but does that justify Russia war crimes in Chechnya? where was the entire media outlet when Russia committed war crimes towards Chechen civilians
Why is it that for pro-Russians, Chechnya separating from Russia is bad but the eastern Ukraine regions separating from the rest is considered good? And if I see any whataboutism regarding something the Yanks or any other western nation has/is doing, than comparing two or more wrongs will be taken as an admission of guilt.
@@shipsabilityIt is hypocritical for _pro_-Russians to consider a piece of Russia (Chechnya) _separating_ a _bad_ thing but a part of Ukraine (LNR, DPR, etc) separating a good thing.
@@pepperedash4424 also Ukraine was doing bad things against Russian speaking Citizens in eastern Ukraine They themselves seperated If Ukraine wants them they should treat those people as *their own civilians*
the ALLAH HU AKBAR as the soldier dies in the halo cutscene is just wild Checnya was the OG ukraine but the Chechens had little to no outside support mainly just donations from Muslims and they still beat back a "Superpower" even during the second war when Russia was much stronger it took them years to take over a small mountain country. Even though Checnya won the first war as a Muslim and an observer I believe that radical Islamists squandered the independence if Shamil baseyev and his crew didn't invade Dageistan Chechnya would probably have lasted a bit longer before the ruskis found another excuse and not so fun fact this war also caused that school hostage situation.
The first war ended in a negotiated peace because Baseyev held a hospital hostage with demands for a ceasefire and withdrawal; he attempted the same thing at that Moscow theater in 2002, but that ended quite differently.
@@dac5782 that was not the sole reason the Russians were almost completely pushed out by the first war the reason it did not work the second time was because the russians held much of Chechnya the hospital situation was not the cause tho it was simply another factor in Russia conceding defeat
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv There are Turkic people living in Dagestan as well and although not all Grey wolves are Islamists, some still are so that could also be a reason for their support.
@@xAnononAx We are talking about Chechens Chechens are not turkic people They are Indigenous North Caucasus people Dagestan does have some Azeris the turkics you are referring to
@@communist754 That is a statement of current prorussian leader of chechnya aka ramzan kadyrov. He calls him self a pawn of putin and russia and acts upon these words, so he is the last person, who will try to denigrate russians.
@@maqwerderwuwilliam you take Kadyrov's word for a fact? Statistics show a 30% total decrease in population from 1994 to 2001, but this includes refugeed, ethnically cleansed Russians, etc. It quickly rebounds after 2001, probably due to some of the refugees returning. Also, Kadyrov is certainly not a lover of Russians or Russia. He is a feudal ruler with personal union with Putin. In Russia, he is widely unpipular and it's believed that he is just biding his time to secede once again, when the time is right.
@@Zal00p who told you that? North Caucasus people ( Dagestanis, Circassions and Chechens) are Actually Iranian people ( They are similar to IRANIANS, Georgians and Armenians, Afghans, Tajiks) Iranian people are in *Indo European group which also consists of Slavic people, including Russians*
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You should have mentioned “Ryazan sugar bags accident”, which indicated that FSB were the ones responsible for the bombings of residential buildings.
God, that first clip is just so heartbreaking…
Basically, two officers who were old friends, one on the Russian side and one on the Chechen, recognized each other and tried urging the other to retreat.
They didn't know each other, but it is still hard
they fought together in afghanistan, together survived afghanistan to come back to a fractured country, and ended up on 2 sides of a war
it doesn't get more tragic than this
it looks like it has always been good comrades killing each other in eastern europe for some spec of tiny land. now we see ukrainians and russians killing each other like total strangers ,many officers from both sides knows each other and even got trained together.
@@chekhososlanian1942 no they knew each other...
@@tranquoccuong890-its-orge Yup the Russian died in battle and the other died in captivity
"I don't have a choice, I have my orders and I will obey them in any case".
Alik to his former afgan war friend
"I have no choice, I am a tame dog of the politicians"
About sums up everything wrong with russia. This is what happens when people don't exercise their free will.
@@vhlamingostreamsaudioconte403I have no choice, I won't let my country by fragmented with CIA funding
@@vhlamingostreamsaudioconte403 words of a man who knows less than nothing about war
1:36
"I would like to inform you that the former general's statement about razing a city and their inhabitants if they fail to vacate was a bad joke. For you see he forgot to end the statement with 'lmao jk' "
"Did i really have to add /s after that?"
we do a little trolling
Russia does military campaigns like I do when I'm playing stellaris
Same 😂 I like the new synaptic Lathe that was added I just rename it @ushwitz
absolutely baZed
@@PrinceofKyiv0331 And what is Chechnya and Ukraine winning? I didn't know hoxlytu...
I hope God will forgive me coz this made me laugh harder than I should
Have you seen the loss ratio of the second Chechen war??? Looks like you're pretty good at Stellaris
Just don't tell my mom that I'm in Chechnya....
it was originally about afghanistan
President Lincoln what you doin in Chechnya?
Just want to tell you, don't go into any theater in 1865.
Im telling on you
Of course Mr. President.
imagine fighting together in afghanistan as comrades, only for years later, you meet him again but as an enemy of a different army
The main two generals of each side in the US Civil War, Grant and Lee, were classmates at West Point, and they fought together during the invasion of Mexico. I'm not sure how well they knew each other though.
And you see him with guys from same afghanistan raising black Islamic banner
@@AnalniyBanditit was the first Chechen war which was less Islamic and more nationalistic and the islamist forces really became prevalent in the 2nd chechen war
@@zakialmahin7278 ну да, чеченцы просто решили устроить геноцид русских, а так они были милые и пушистые
During the American Revolutionary War, many officers on the British and American sides knew each other quite well because they fought together in the French and Indian War
Least unhinged Yeltsin's policy
Yeah, he was quite the US puppet too imo
And probably also Putin's policy during 2nd Chechen War and the insurgency in the Caucasus Region
"Leaving the village for the hospital in Grozny, I passed a Russian armored personnel carrier with the word SAMASHKI written on its side in bold, black letters. I looked in my rearview mirror and to my horror saw a human skull mounted on the front of the vehicle. The bones were white; someone must have boiled the skull to remove the flesh."
- Khassan Baiev -
When your Warhammer 40k larp session is getting out of hand...
Honestly
That sounds both horrible and badass at the same time
40k irl ain't that glorious and epic
100% достоверная информация😂
Sounds metal as fuck, too bad it's probably made up
Western Europe in the 90s: 😊🕊️
Eastern Europe in the 90s: 💀🔥
With Eastern Europe you don't have to specify a decade, that's just the default state.
Rest of the southern emispher : 💀
@@kg7162 Wtf is an "emispher"?
@@SanctusPaulus1962 hemispher
@@jazzy4830 50s to 80s wasnt particularly chaotic
In Malaysia we have idioms for war, Two elephant fought but the deers died in the middle 😢
That's actually quite accurate.
Dam that hits hard
"Gajah sama gajah berjuang, pelanduk mati di tengah-tengah"
This time it was different, the elephant attacked the deers. And unfortunately the deers lost.
The Guy in the beginning always makes me so sad
god that first part with the chechen talking to Alik is tearful, seeing the original video for it is recommended. it really does show brother against brother in those wars, brothers who once fought for the soviets in equality, brothers who now fight against each other.
@@mateopribyl9218
"Fighting against people wanting to be independent" doesn't justify a school massacre
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
@@mateopribyl9218 So basically Ukraine and Donbass?
@@mateopribyl9218 Yeah but Russia won.
@@mateopribyl9218 nah talking about only the Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts, the other 2 oblasts under Russian occupation don't count has wanting to be independent.
Nationalism is the biggest threat to the whole of human society. That's why communism is good.
Everytime I feel sad about being born in LatAm, I remember I wasn't born in eastern europe and I inmediatly feel better
why ever feel sad about being born in such a lovely place?
@@stepanbondarenko9880 eh, it has it's perks ngl
@@stepanbondarenko9880
Lovely, lmao.
Not gona lie, my country, Brazil, has some nice aspects, but that's all. Corruption, high crime rates that makes some scenarios similar to a war zone even if there is no civil war, bullshit agro economy, plus being a prostitute to developed countries - some people even criticize you if you have some sense of nationalism.
However, yeah, wouldn't change this to go in eastern europe. ❤
@@mz.projiekt i heard from russian people who fleed after the war, that Brazil felt like a heaven after our climate.
@@stepanbondarenko9880 @stepanbondarenko9880 well, as I said, wouldn't change this piece of shit for some place on the east, Russians endure hardships that I can't even think of. Them and other people like guys from the Middle East and Africa possibly have the most ficked up places to live.
However, it's funny to see some refugee grandson calling Brazil a hell.
I always forget how fucking dark this war was, Jesus Christ.
Yeah man. The unisex child soldiers and flattening of Grozny were Really Friggin grim.
Just don't tell mom im in Chechnya
Just don't tell mom I'm in Afghanistan
@@FIVEBASKET Just don't tell mom I'm in Ukraine
@@AaronBiswasjust don't tell my mom I'm at Rafah
Just don't tell mom im in Myanmar
Just don't tell mom I'm in Proxima Centauri B.
What made Ichkeria Republic Strong, It's Militias. Backfired the second First war ended. Heads of militias became warlords. and political power came through the end of a gun. Basically afghanistan today. It blew up in their faces when Bashayev decided to invade Dagestan. Then things turned from depressing to blood freezingly horrifying (Terror attacks and their unseen scale in Russia, And unforseen destruction in Chechnya.Which made it very different from the tone of first war)
Russians were funding these warlords to destroy Chechnya from within
Shut up armchair expert
@@Dwcor Jihadists were volunteers. The entire chechen force wss made up of militia jihadist or not. Heads of militia become corrupted jihad or not
Its still mind boggling that the Russian Army lost to what is, essentially, a local millitia.
Why? Israel lost to Hezbollah in 2006 when they invade Lebanon, Israel also hasn't win for more than 9 months against what is basically, a bunch of militia in a strip in the map even after they took their gloves off and disregard any proportionality principle in IHL.
Never underestimate a well armed militias defendong the country they knew well, besides, Russia totally won the second war.
If history teaches anything it's that big empires WILL fail when facing against "militias" or any "irregulars" who love their country
@@mohitanand1844those people are dumb because we all will die if it ever comes to that.
@@mohitanand1844lmao "oriental", imagine being a loser that actually believe in this kind of thing
@@briantarigan7685 There is a huge difference in loosing a war and loosing a war. Israel didn't loose a brigade worth of men and equipment now, nor during the 2006 war. Russians lost it within three days.
Israel also isn't loosing in Gaza right now, but that's besides the point.
"Fight for independence."
*Neuron Activation.*
If someone are surprised about poor preparation or organization of Russia in Ukraine, they have not known about first Grozny battle lmao
Yeah that first Battle of Grozny was horrible....yet again there's a clear difference between the 2022 Russian Army and the 2024 Russian Army. Almost completely two different forces one uses BTG's and Armored Warfare the other Division's and Artillery/Air-power.
@@gregorylouis617 of course, both armies are learning and adapting...I think both Ukrainian and Russian are toughest warriors in the world right now, they have more experience in modern combat than anyone else.
russia wasnt bad in 2022 just small forces and too costly to do deep operations against fortifications with modern satalite and drones russia as of late 2022 just wanted to kill as much as possible and diudnt care about capturing new territory and as of today we can see it was effective
@@axdde6428 What should scare people is the Russians adaptation in usage of fpv drones, ground-based drones (with weapons even!), Lancet, Glide-bombs (FAB 250 > 3000) and their kill-chains are fast asf right now.
You forget the 2008 georgian War
And the FSB is accused of planting the bombs in Moscow to frame Chechnya. The reporter who made this claim then died of polonium poisoning.
Holy shit
if he's stupid enough to make such a claim then he is stupid enough to consume polonium /s
Commonly known in Russia as the "Sugar of Ryazan", as the hexogen was brought in the sacks with the word "Sugar" on them.
I think it's important to note that there is still no evidence of this being real. I see too many people claiming this as a proven fact.
Yup! To anyone curious look up 1999 September bombings. Putin killed ~300 of his own civillians.
its actually kind of wild how incompetent yeltsin was
In the end almost all non-Chechen population (about 34% in 1989) was removed and Russia subsidizes the economy of Chechnya with billions. Such a victory.
It's unironically not about money, it's about sending a message. Letting the USSR fall apart is one thing, letting a subject of the Russian Federation to secede unilaterally is another thing entirely. Imagine Texas declaring independence. Imagine it actually going through with it and seceding. Imagine how many other states would look at that and decide to follow suit. Even Yeltsin the retard understood that if allowed to happen, it would kick off a disastrous domino effect that would balkanize the entire country.
Based
*Remove Ruski* 🤣🤣🤣
@@maddogbasilok buddy
@@Balthasar_Gelt463 cringe
Should've left the part where Alik said he could not call off the attack.
The 90s in America/Western Europe 😁
The 90s in the Balkans/Eastern Europe 💀
the caucasus was worse
That's Eastern Europe in a nutshell.
"wait a minute, this isnt about ancient chinese"
The officers and NCOs in this war had been to afghanistan together.
Grandpa: don’t tell mom I’m in Afghanistan
Dad: don’t tell mom I’m in Chechnya
Son: don’t tell mom I’m in bakhmut
Grandpa: killed by afghan
Dad: killed in Chechnya
Son: killed in Ukraine
Graveyards of russians forever🇺🇦🤝🇦🇫🤝🟩⬜🟥⬜🟩
Grandpa: Don't tell mom I'm in Vietnam
Dad: Don't tell mom I'm in Iraq
Son: don't tell mom I'm in Afghan
We haven't evolved one single bit.
@@shipsabilityahhh, whataboutism
@@pardus5694 I have a bottle of champagne when it will happen
@@SBF_983 Ahhh, denying the truth because it’s easier to live your life comfortably and praise the country based on what they say on the news. Thank you for disregarding human life, you’d make a great soldier, feel free to volunteer for Ukraine.
Alik died the third day of operation in grozny the Feb 2nd, tried to evacuate 40 wounded men... 13/40 survived and tried to scape through destroyed tanks next to the train station... among them Alik
Not sure why the video ignored quite a big event happening in 1st war, which was the catalyst for peace negotiations, the capturing of the hospital with 200 hostages in neighboring Russian republic Dagestan.
basayev started war in dagestan was really really bad idea
Least destructive Russian war
Imagine being some dweeb Soviet student that went on holiday to Chechnya in 1988 being sent there as a soldier in 1994 because the government bungled the economy so bad it caused a War of Liberation
The Chechen independence movement wasn't really because of politics, but more about the aftermath of the Soviet deportations of Chechens
@@ivarioIt's just one of the historic excuses that do not explain why only Chechnya became the mess and not others ethnic autonomous republics that also experienced harsh deportations. The fault for situation escalating into total war laid mainly on Dudayev's policies that did not seek any compromises. He took power in "democratic elections" where he was the only candidate, he befriended Islamic fundamentalists to strengthen his autocratic rule and actively tried to build some kind of anti-russian coalition in Caucasus with him as the leader when Moscow didn't even start to do anything against separatist threat and actively seek peaceful negotiations like they managed to do in Tatarstan. And what people actively forget, the First Chechen war started only after Russia involved itself in the already ongoing civil war in Chechnya, where pro-democratic Chechen forces for six months already fought against Dudayev's dictatorship after he abolished his own constitution
@@Ocelot835 Just because he was the only candidate in the first election, negates all democratic actions that happened later? And was the opposition that democratic really? I do say that probably he got too cozu with Islamists, but that really only became a serious factor after he was killed.
P.S. what other republics besides Crimea did you mean? Crimean pro-Russian radicals tried to stoke lots of bogus trouble around 1992, for instance
@@ivario Crimea was in Ukraine?
@@ivario what democratic actions? After electing Dudayev there was no any other elections and he from the first day in power tried to strengthen his positions as the only one who have real power. Even mebers of Dudayev's own party tried to oppose the president power grap despite everyone still supporting Chechnya independence. In 1993 Dudayev even had his own "Black October" with dissolution of parlament, constitution and independent court system so no one would have questioned him anymore. Those why opposition forces formed inaurgence that lead to Russian involvement.
And about deportations - Dagestan had its own history with it. Plenty of others ethnic minorities in North Caucasus also, not harsher than Chechens had. Yet only they seek ultimate independence while others was fine to negotiate with Moscow for expanding limits of their autonomous status while still being part of Federation
Russian military competence died with Zhukov holy shit
Just don't tell mom that my president is an asshole
"Gen Lebed called the ultimatum, issued by General Pulikovsky (replaced by then), a 'bad joke'"
It's just a prank, bro
The map of the Dagestan Republic at 2:05 includes Crimea as a contested territory, however Crimea was annexed only years later in 2014. Otherwise great video, teared a bit at the start
Russia: With tens of thousands of soldiers, aircraft, tanks and unlimited military power, and with dozens of military, generals and experienced officers, captures Grozny in 3 months, suffering heavy losses (The assault on Grozny 1994-1995 is one of the most disruptive assaults in Russian history)
Also Chechnya, during the battle for Grozny in 1996, has 1000 militias without equipment, air support and armored vehicles, the operation was commanded by General Aslan Maskhadov, and captures 90% of the city in 3 days, and after 4 days Russia officially declares that it lost this war.
they couldn't capture grozny in 3 months yet in 2022 they claimed they could get to kyiv in 3 days
@@lillyie "ЫЫыыы кыив за тры дняяя" я тебе напоминаю что уже в самом начале войны российская армия была под Киевом, но получила приказ на отход после Стамбула, которым Зеленский подтёрся. Теперь он подтирается правами человека, загоняя на бойню тех, кто не сумел или не успел сбежать из "эуропейськой демократичьной страны".
What kind of unlimited power are you talking about before the first assault on Grozny?
When the only one who trained was Rokhlin’s corps? Or about how the same units of the Marine Corps were recruited before deployment, cramming in everyone they could. Or about the officers who sat as drivers because the conscripts didn’t really know how to drive? You foreigners don’t even suspect what was there.
@@lillyie bruh people who believes that russia said "Kiev in 3 say" are same who believes "ghost of Kiev"
@@slavguy look man I doubt Putin had "conscripting violent prisoners" and "retreating after having nearly surrounded Kiev" in his plans so something went wrong big time
The original "do men even have feelings" video that the first clip is taken from is brutal af.
probably the most depressing series of wars I can think of
You are being over dramatic, what about the two world wars we had? What about the Chinese wars where tens of millions of innocent people died?
@@imgreen2563 I am not downplaying the importance or tragedy that those wars represent, every war is a tragedy regardless of context. I’m simply referring to the general atmosphere and pointlessness of the Chechen Wars.
@@spade3779 Every war is pointless. There's not such thing as a "righteous war" even when there is such thing as an "unjust peace."
@@DonVigaDeFierro it's only righteous when NATO is involved in it
@@DonVigaDeFierro there are righteous wars though
1:31 does that mean Russia is the most moral army in Europe?
This one turned almost into a Major Sam thing.
russian troops literally had adidas sports shoes on in first chechen war. it was like they were there on a picnic
So the same as in Ukraine
The Chechen wars are one of the craziest and bloodiest conflicts in the modern era.Listen to the Lions lead by donkeys podcast on it its crazy
the war on islamic sate in syria, iraq, and lybia was worse. i know you probably think islamic state was this big monster the tv would make them out to be but in reality they were just angry men with ak’s but their opponent was the entire world with jets and tanks. america and russia together bombed a town in syria iraq border for weeks, every day and night, then afterwards the media pointed at the thousands of corpus on the streets and said “isis did this”
So basically this was the War In Ukraine Beta Edition
basically, yes
Nope
*War against Islamic terrorism*
Similar to USA invasion of MIDDLE EASTERN countries and Afghanistan
War never changes
1:36 Most proportional response.
The innocent suffer the most in war
In the start he said:
Alik, come on maybe somehow until it's too late return your men Alik, don't do this, don't. In every case Alik you will die and I will die, what will it change? Right, who will win, we won't survive, you understand?
(I changed some words because I couldn't write them in english)
From the first seconds into tears. Why u do this to us?
And I thought my neighbours were bad
2:01 TRIVIA: About those apartament bomb1ngs, there is a major conspiracy theory that it was the russian homeland inteligence (FSB) who actually made it
It's said that one night, some building inhabitants called the police after seeing a group of suspicious looking guys near the apartament block, the cops found a rigged explosive left inside and the b0mb squad defused it in time; however, they noticed it wasn't some homecraft device like most terr0rists do, but it was the same kind of explosive used exclusively by the Russian Armed Forces. The press started raising questions about this detail, to which the FSB stepped forward saying that everything was just an emergency drill, despite happening during those bomb1ngs; some argue that P*tin and his allies orchestrated the attack to raise his support for the 2000 election and the 2nd invasion of Chechen.
No, the Moscow Bombings was done by Chechen Islamic terrorists not by FSB
To me the craziest part of this isn't that Russia was likely killing its own people, it's that at one time for a brief period, there was a press in Russia that could question the government.
Low key kinda sad. Less than 5 years before they would have been comrades in arms
Crazy ass conflict
How can create such an goofy video of both gigachad commanders who were friend befpre going into combat like real men?
Usual "never become enemies with a man before drinking votka together" behavior
Ukraine is really lucky that the entire NATO is willing to supply weapons and ammunition l. While the Chechens were not blessed with such a luck.
Realest thing ever said
That's because Western world saw them as *Terrorists*
how many Chechens would have been left, if they did?
Aside from the Georgians opening the borders for the Chechens to escape
@@OperatorMax1993 *and then they started their j!had against Georgia*
I've wrote a good summary of missing interesting facts, but my comments keep dissapearing :/
The (most likely) future of Gaza:
And the US.
Future? It's the past too!
Yeah no you have no clue what you are talking about.
The future of Ghaza is Yemen war 2
@@VifnisI think lot people know , just the Chews that they don’t want
The guy in the beginning gives a very important lesson about politics:
They have no friends, not even common russians.
Step 1: be leader of economically ruined country
Step 2: invade small and unrecognized neighbour
Step 3: ???
Step 4: profit?
Wdym neighbour, Chechnya was de jure territory of the Russian Federation and experienced a similar situation as Ukraine did with Donbass.
@@Someone-lr6gu neighbouring country duh
@@Someone-lr6guLet me guess, a Twitter account with a half naked girl as profile pic told you Ukraine is killing people in Donbass?
@@Someone-lr6guDonbass can't have independence because it can't and Chechnya can because it can.
@@park1776 Donbass doesn't get western countries approval for independence, so they can't unless they ask russia.
and then we arrived at today's predicament.
Russian army built to fight in the plains of Europe when they discover the horror of urban combat:
Russia invading itself for the 5th time in 120 years:
Chechen are their own people with their own language and culture. They are not Russian.
Chechnya isn't Russia, it's a region that Russia invaded and refused to ever give up
@@notalizard6994just like donbass?
@@park1776what do you mean by that. donbass was mostly inhabited by ukranians until the FSB started giving weapons to separatist
@@jusus222 what do you mean by that. chechnya was mostly inhabited by russians before the CIA started giving weapons to separatist
I had to admit, the music make this very ironic
I once spoke to a former FSB agent, that particapted in Chechenyia war's.
He told that one of the reasons why chechenians were capable to hold for such a long time, was because its immidiatly became a gathering place for all sorts of radical islamic terroristic groups from different parts of the world.
He told that the tactics of chechenias was to steal young boys from the families in order to indoctrinate to to terroristic ideologies, which make them loyal pretty fast. What was making things worse, is the fact that there was an enormise spike of terroristic attacks in between chechenian wars.
This is also why russians acted the way they act. There wernt fighting chechenians. They were fightns terrorists, who forcfully recruit young boys in they ranks.
If you need a proof, just look who were the supporters of the Ichkeria.
Russian propaganda be like:
@@maqwerderwuwilliam burger people when truth:
@@park1776 Imperialists trying to defend their atrocities by all means be like:
Russian propaganda
@@muhammadfasihkhan8508 I am curious. Why are you so sure about your point of view? Do you have some sources, that are the most objective of them all? Or you just going from the words of western media and blogers? Then what does made you believe, thar they are not lying to you?
And its not like I said some controversial thing. There are open internet sources, even the most basic ones, thar tell you about terroristic supports during chechenian wars. Its only fairly recently people stoped talking about it.
Ending with Anakin was brilliant
Most skilled russian general
We managed to kill 1 finn with only 1500 loses
"Lol winter war funny because lots of dead". Finland lost 1/3rd of it's territory, a devastating amount of population for a country of barely 3-4 million at that time and a huge amount of kids became refugees in Sweden and Norway, with many never returning. Fuck your meme.
Hate to break it to you but the finns lost eventually
@@Vsm426 hah, they lost karelia, finland still exists, soviet union doesn't
@@Vsm426 hah, they lost karelia, finland still exists, soviet union doesnt
in finnshit fantasy, in reality casualty ratio was close to 1 + finland lost (twice in a row). nowadays the term for political cuckolding (finlandization) proudly wears that name
Dear sister, don't tell mom I'm in Chechnya.
Who is the guy on your profile?
Mahmud Ahmadinejad, former president of Iran
He didn’t mention Shatoy Ambush
Waiting for the flag of Ichkeria to have its own emoji
To think there's a Roblox game about this...
Siege of Malta what’s that about? Oh wait Teutonic Knights.
I suggest to everyone who watch this video a Russian YT historian and military channel name "Tуземный совет трудящихся" - who making good videos about Post Soviet Era, especially about Two Chechen Wars
Russian means he's lying bs propaganda
Low quality content, just copy paste wikipedia and put some barely fitting memes over it
This is literally what his entire channel is about
Its funny
@@DwightEisenhower34 plus the music is good
Man, Eastern Europe is a whole can of worms I can't understand.
Im beginning to wonder if The Russians ever had a good millitary at this or any point? Or was it realy just sheer numbers and explosives?
Yes, they did. Thing is, their successful military campaign don't attract as much attention, even if they happened in the same time period. Nobody is talking about how Russians demolished Japanese in Khalkin Gol and Manjuria, but everyone talks about how they lost the 1905 war to Japan.
Nobody actually analyzes their successful tactics in WWII, choking their success to bullshit "human wave attacks".
Objectively though, Russian army had tough time starting from late 80th onward due to a variety of policical, social and economical factors. It's only now finally getting in shape.
Also, most of the time when they fought they did not actually have a numerical advantage. In Ukraine, for example, they had numerical disadvantage from day 1.
The Soviets and their Deep Battle was good against the Nazis, but the Russians.. not so much.
What is the sheer number? Bangladesh literally have more people than Russia, Kazakhstan combined
@@communist754 With the WWII part, it also didn't help that we pretty much let the Germans both write the history of the war and handle the editing, and you can guess what happened.
The soviet military was pretty decent, but it started getting worse in the 80's, and it had the same inability to deal with insurgencies that the american army still has. Once the 90's came, post-soviet militaries went downhill, and some (like Russia's) weren't brought up
Ofc this is the only conflict he takes seriously
I have no sympathy for either side. They could have avoided it but chosen the worst options repeatedly for little to no gain.
I have sympathy for Russian Side
THE BASED COMMENT
The only one I can 100% agree with
What’s the game at 2:11?
Whats crazy is that in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia has suffered at the very least, 7x the amount of casualties in both Chechen Wars.
Edits: Removed "10x" for "7x" as upon review this number suits better. And comment is worded bit better
not really, it suffered way less casualties than chechnya
Are you sure? Chechnya was literally razed to the ground...
@@generalarmageddon2518 Yes and what has chechnya to do with the invasion of Ukraine?
Soviet army in the 90's was shit. The long lasted degradation since Kruschev's reign.
@@ИванМатвеев-й2р How about you look stuff up. BBC confirms 50k dead, Oryx tallied ~15k visually confirmed losses, with nearly 3k being tanks.
US estimate in Dec 2023, 315k Russian casualties. UK estimates about 500k Russian casualties.
Compare this to the fact that Russia took about 50k wounded and 6-14k dead in the first war with another 6-14k dead in the second. While casualty counts vary wildly, let's assume about 60k casualties from each war at the least, that's 120k, which is nothing compared to Ukraine.
This would make a good half-life 2 mod
0:43 Average modern Russian offensive be like:
I would like to thank my god father for restoring peace and stability in my country. He got PTSD to ensure that me and my siblings grow up in a country safe from separatism and terrorism, where Islam and Christianity live in peace and prosperity. Unfortunately our government wronged us and decided to destroy everything by invading Ukraine. Still, my god father is a hero for keeping the country together in those troubling times. He couldn't have known how it would turn out. Спасибо, что живой!
Every Russian incursion be like
0:45
lol so true , even in Ukraine I saw that
may Allah help and librate my people and their land in Chechnya and gaza - Palestine and everywhere. aamen
F for our chechen brethren and sisters who martyred in this wars putin had to strike a deal with some pro russian chechens to win over the chechens sad that all these sacrifices weren't enough but what can you do when a collaborator pops up.....needless to say them chechens gave russians hard time may allah grant them paradise.
Lmao
Imagine losing a war when russian army was in shambles after the Soviet union
@@WARLORDDOM It seems to me that Russia should be ashamed of defeat in the first Chechen war 😂
@@Zal00p Well Russia had traitor as president back then, not Putin.
As an American, I wonder if the Second Chechen War occurs in the Russian popular imagination in a similar way as our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan do in ours, having a parent who fought in both when he was still active duty.
Generally they just ignore the existence of this war really hard, even those who were affected
@@Xenandor Do they do that with a lot of wars or is there just something about this one
@@DiamondKingStudios Nowadays the only war is the great patriotic one (the part of second world war from the invasion of Germany in the soviet union to the occupation of Berlin), mostly in upbeat tones, in the past it was more about mourning and less about giant parades, there was a time where the Afghan war was discussed, mainly from the point of unnecessary loss of soviet lives
Imagine if we cared as much about the chechen wars as we did ukraine.
A shame really, compassion is only convenient.
@@MacacoCorDeMerda-r2t Ivan swine screeching
Freedom fighters and A sovereign state are two completely different things.
@@asschezchok but does that justify Russia war crimes in Chechnya? where was the entire media outlet when Russia committed war crimes towards Chechen civilians
@@MacacoCorDeMerda-r2tI don’t see you getting hit by a Russian airforce in Syria?
you cared the same amount about the chechen wars as you did about the donbass war
who was talking to whom in first version
A chechen and a russian who inew eachother from Afghanistan
Ali & Alik >>> Deku & Bakugou
W pfp
Thanks@@Mewiing
Putin has been playing a high level game for day 1.
And there are clowns who actually study history using Wikipedia
Why is it that for pro-Russians, Chechnya separating from Russia is bad but the eastern Ukraine regions separating from the rest is considered good?
And if I see any whataboutism regarding something the Yanks or any other western nation has/is doing, than comparing two or more wrongs will be taken as an admission of guilt.
I'm not sure I quite get it, you're saying Donbass leaving Ukraine is considered good, which is hypocritical of Russia?
@@shipsabilityIt is hypocritical for _pro_-Russians to consider a piece of Russia (Chechnya) _separating_ a _bad_ thing but a part of Ukraine (LNR, DPR, etc) separating a good thing.
@@pepperedash4424 Yes. That’s very much true.
Double standards. Kosovo can go, Crimea cant.
@@pepperedash4424 also Ukraine was doing bad things against Russian speaking Citizens in eastern Ukraine
They themselves seperated
If Ukraine wants them they should treat those people as *their own civilians*
Just extremely fucking depressing from start to finish, pretty much. ✅
Kadyrov: 🤡🤡🤡
Kadyrov's dad: 💪💪😎😎🫡🫡
Interestingly his father was a pure muslim stalinist, dude was more based than his son.
Both are traitors
@@obi.wan-kenobi If you're a traitor to russia, then no one really cares if you're a traitor
Both are Russian bootlicking fake Chechens 🤣
@@obi.wan-kenobiThey sold off their own people, despicable.
wish you can make about the lavon affair
the ALLAH HU AKBAR as the soldier dies in the halo cutscene is just wild Checnya was the OG ukraine but the Chechens had little to no outside support mainly just donations from Muslims and they still beat back a "Superpower" even during the second war when Russia was much stronger it took them years to take over a small mountain country.
Even though Checnya won the first war as a Muslim and an observer I believe that radical Islamists squandered the independence if Shamil baseyev and his crew didn't invade Dageistan Chechnya would probably have lasted a bit longer before the ruskis found another excuse and not so fun fact this war also caused that school hostage situation.
The first war ended in a negotiated peace because Baseyev held a hospital hostage with demands for a ceasefire and withdrawal; he attempted the same thing at that Moscow theater in 2002, but that ended quite differently.
@@dac5782 that was not the sole reason the Russians were almost completely pushed out by the first war the reason it did not work the second time was because the russians held much of Chechnya the hospital situation was not the cause tho it was simply another factor in Russia conceding defeat
Along with Georgia opening the borders with Chechnya to escape once the Russians took over Grozny
"Grey Wolves"
ULAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNN!!
Well Chechens are muslims but certainly not turkic
So there was no reason for Grey wolves to be involved in Russo Chechen war
@@Theworldsucks-kg5jv There are Turkic people living in Dagestan as well and although not all Grey wolves are Islamists, some still are so that could also be a reason for their support.
@@xAnononAx We are talking about Chechens
Chechens are not turkic people
They are Indigenous North Caucasus people
Dagestan does have some Azeris the turkics you are referring to
Something like 10,000 people died in grozny in 1999-2000 and now cities in Ukraine has losses of up to 50,000 or more
Partly because 6 million Ukrainians fled to the rest of Europe
Approximately 1/3 of whole chechen population was murdered in two wars.
@@maqwerderwuwilliamWhat's your source on that?
@@communist754 That is a statement of current prorussian leader of chechnya aka ramzan kadyrov. He calls him self a pawn of putin and russia and acts upon these words, so he is the last person, who will try to denigrate russians.
@@maqwerderwuwilliam you take Kadyrov's word for a fact? Statistics show a 30% total decrease in population from 1994 to 2001, but this includes refugeed, ethnically cleansed Russians, etc. It quickly rebounds after 2001, probably due to some of the refugees returning.
Also, Kadyrov is certainly not a lover of Russians or Russia. He is a feudal ruler with personal union with Putin. In Russia, he is widely unpipular and it's believed that he is just biding his time to secede once again, when the time is right.
Is it Russia’s ‘Nam or Northern Ireland or not?
No, Chechens are culturally different from Russians even more than the British from Irish
@@Zal00p who told you that?
North Caucasus people ( Dagestanis, Circassions and Chechens)
are Actually Iranian people
( They are similar to IRANIANS, Georgians and Armenians, Afghans, Tajiks)
Iranian people are in *Indo European group which also consists of Slavic people, including Russians*