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  • @chamchamtrigger
    @chamchamtrigger 6 років тому +8

    That Q sound logo and theme always make me feel a nice sense of nostalgia.

    • @capcom23
      @capcom23 6 років тому +1

      yes. are you ready true believers la la la la in marvel super heroes vs street fighter. That's my first thought lol

  • @Octopuswithcorn
    @Octopuswithcorn 8 років тому +4

    I always wondered why Capcom put Akuma in this. Then I realized that Since Super Turbo is called Super Street Fighter 2 X in Japan. That means Akuma is an X-Man

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      +Octopuswithcorn hehe, interesting thought,.

  • @schizogony
    @schizogony 5 років тому +3

    Jim Lee's X-Men art will never be usurped.

  • @GameGameHeaven
    @GameGameHeaven 8 років тому

    Man, what a great game, I love it. The intro gave me goosebumps once more.

  • @MrDumdumkilla
    @MrDumdumkilla 6 років тому +2

    I grew up with a PlayStation so watching these videos now damn lol i still loved this game

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  6 років тому

      well, what you never knew back then would not have bothered you :)

  • @ConfusionDistortion
    @ConfusionDistortion 8 років тому +4

    The Pc version IS NOT a port of the Saturn version. It was reprogrammed from the ground up. It is also NOT missing any animation. You have to run the game in 16mb mode. The other lesser 8mb mode cuts some frames. The Pc port also has different resolution/color support modes that can be used depending on your 2d capability. Older S3 cards tend to handle the game well, as does Kyro II cards oddly enough.

  • @Darknight0681
    @Darknight0681 2 місяці тому +1

    Problem. Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but your talk of the DOS port is half right. What you say is true, if you install the 8MB RAM version of the game. Yeah, you get the cuts, the decrease in color palette, etc. If you install the 16MB version of the game, you get ALL the arcade animation and color reproduction intact. The DOS version was the ONLY release to get the visuals 100% barring that awful upscale to 640x480.

  • @JOAOVRM
    @JOAOVRM 7 років тому +6

    the saturn is the closest thing to the arcade version, thou it`s still not perfect, it`s a good option for those not willing to buy the actual acade board

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому +1

      True, it's not really arcade perfect but for such an early Saturn release its pretty impressive.

    • @JOAOVRM
      @JOAOVRM 7 років тому

      i wonder what it`d have looked like if it ran with the RAM cartridge

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому

      Probably very close to t the Arcade.

    • @DanielAyy
      @DanielAyy 6 років тому

      It's a shame it didn't use the ram cart in a similar way as marvel super heroes. But the game is still pretty good right?

  • @someinterwebguy6452
    @someinterwebguy6452 8 років тому

    I remember playing this game in a corner store in San Jose in '97, and spent a good $20 in quarters over the course of ~9 months. Once I found out that Akuma was an unlockable playable character, I unlocked him just to show my friends. He feels kind of out of place. Nice to see that it got a decent MS-DOS port in addition to the awesome Saturn version.

  • @cloudskipa
    @cloudskipa 4 роки тому +4

    I bought the PAL Saturn version on release and it had those horrible borders and unoptimised 50hz gameplay. I still loved it despite that but what a rip off since the games were so expensive too. When I got my Saturn 60hz/region modded it made such a huge difference it was unbelieveable. The music in COTA is also epic, easily my favourite out of all the vs. games.

  • @parkerbrown953
    @parkerbrown953 7 років тому +4

    I always thought this game was really cool but too tough to beat.

  • @tomyu3208
    @tomyu3208 8 років тому

    Always enjoy your videos :D

  • @NightSprinter
    @NightSprinter 8 років тому +1

    I'm still fond of the DOS version, since it it seemed to keep most if not all the arcade original's speed, and had intro/copyright/service-menu screens like if it were an arcade board. Plus, using the at-the-time-new VESA modes of new graphics cards (or the UniVBE driver the game supplied for older cards) made for a more accurate resolution AND run at 60Hz instead of the default 70.
    I think the demo was limited, as the full version had installs for two 8MB versions and one for for power gamers with a full 16MB of system memory.. I'll check.

    • @NightSprinter
      @NightSprinter 8 років тому

      Right, I remember now that one of the 8MB modes used only 256 colors for everything. I'll have to fire up my DOS machine up and see how much animation was cut out of the 8MB 32,768 color VESA mode install.

    • @Tempora158
      @Tempora158 8 років тому +1

      +NightSprinter Just installed the 16MB RAM/32K color version of the game into DOSBox from CD. The demo is not representative of the retail CD version, as the demo size had to be kept small so it could be downloaded over a dial-up connection, so it's probably the 8MB RAM/256 color version. Also, DOSBOX needs to have its CPU cycles set to a fixed 100,000. Leaving it at Maximize Cycles or Automated Cycles Detection will make the game run choppy.

    • @NightSprinter
      @NightSprinter 8 років тому

      Yeah, it's actually best experienced on the real thing with a GrIP-compatible controller or two.

    • @Tempora158
      @Tempora158 8 років тому +1

      NightSprinter Also download the patch that brings the PC version up to 1.01
      Here's Acclaim's page for where the patches were located, but you;ll have to find them somewhere else:
      web.archive.org/web/19990417141615/www.acclaim.net/games/x-men/demo/demo.html

    • @NightSprinter
      @NightSprinter 8 років тому

      The links are 404 for the patches. Any idea where else to find them?

  • @marbardan
    @marbardan 7 років тому +2

    You think you could do 1 on Mvc2? There's alot of differences in some ports..

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому

      Hmm, I think most of the Ports are emulation but I will look in to it.

    • @marbardan
      @marbardan 7 років тому

      Most versions are from the Naomi, Ps2, Xbox, iOS and Psn/Xbl outside of Mame/Dreamcast.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому

      Are, PS2 would be a port of the Dreamcast so that would be interesting to see. The Xbox version is just emulation as is the Ios version. If I can find a cheap PS2 version and download the Xbox 360 port I'll give it a try. The original Xbox version may be an issue though unless it is backwards compatable on the 360.

  • @Darknight0681
    @Darknight0681 8 років тому +2

    Everyone's mentioned the PC ports different modes, particularly the one 16mb mode that restores all the animations and color. That alone would've made it the best port if it weren't for the fact that they messed up so many of the move properties. And the PS1 version had many of the same issues on top of it's other major setbacks considering that Probe did that one too.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому +2

      Probe sucked ass in my opinion. Even their much loved Alien 3 game soon becaome a slug feast IMO.

  • @Galdelico
    @Galdelico 8 років тому +2

    As good as the Saturn port plays and looks, this game - along with the original arcade version of Dead or Alive - remains one of my favourite classics which I hoped for ages it could get a pixel-perfect re-release on some modern console/digital marketplace, and that sadly never happened. There's something about CotA - maybe the stages, the music... I can't really point that out - that not even the more powerful (and way better ported) VS games managed to equal.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому +1

      +Galdelico Well, you could always play Dead or Alive in the Model 2 Emulator and X-Men COTA in Final Burn Alpha. I wouldn't bother with MAME for either of those games.

    • @Galdelico
      @Galdelico 8 років тому

      +Retro Core Sure, I tried FBA emulator back in the days and it was awesome. That said, as much as I love emulators - from a technical standpoint - there's still some psychological barrier that prevents me from fully enjoying to play games on them. I'm weird, I know. :D

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      Galdelico
      I can understand where you are coming from. I love my emulation PC but I'd still rather play on a real console with the real game any day.

  • @sumdood8563
    @sumdood8563 6 років тому +2

    Yes!

  • @michielkroder4031
    @michielkroder4031 7 років тому +1

    The Saturn version looks quite a bit darker than the others. Is that a capturing issue or an accurate representation of how it compares?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому

      Whenever I cover a Saturn game I use real hardware via RGB. This is probably why the colour looks different

    • @michielkroder4031
      @michielkroder4031 7 років тому

      Hmmmyeah... I have my Saturn hooked up to a Beovision MX 7000 via RGB and the picture is brilliantly colourful. Was a bit worried as I have Children of the Atom in the mail and I feared that it's going to look dark and muted. Thanks for answering!

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому +1

      It looks great on my TV too but for some reason it is darker via the Capture. I have this problem with the Atari ST as well.

    • @michielkroder4031
      @michielkroder4031 7 років тому

      Shame, that. So you actually have an Atari ST? I always thought you captured footage of ST games via emulation.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому

      I don't own my own but a friend has one which I use from time to time. I do also use emulation when I can't use the real hardware.

  • @StudioBadGuy
    @StudioBadGuy 8 років тому

    A classic, I found this in thrift store for 2 bucks I bought it and didnt own a saturn until years later.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому +1

      +Studio Bad Guy $2 is a great deal! Well worth that price.

  • @TheRacingOtaku
    @TheRacingOtaku 6 років тому +3

    Most of the versions are rather good.
    I have something to say about the PlayStation version. That something is why. Why is it so inferior? Why was it handled so badly? It could've been up there with the Saturn port, but no.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  6 років тому

      If you think that's bad then wait until you see this week's Battle of the Ports. The PlayStation port is trully awful

    • @sega_kid4288
      @sega_kid4288 5 років тому

      Doubt that the Saturns 2d capability was untouched at the time. Most if not all capcom, snk 2d games are better on Saturn and that's not including the 1mb and 4mb ram carts, add those and it's not even close, Xmen vs street fighter for example.

  • @masterlee1988
    @masterlee1988 8 років тому

    I have the Saturn version, thankfully I didn't go for the PS1 version.

    • @MrDmoney156
      @MrDmoney156 8 років тому +1

      most fanboys would go for the PlayStation version

  • @BocaRetroGames
    @BocaRetroGames 8 років тому

    Neves knew there was a msdos version !

  • @retrovideogamejunkie
    @retrovideogamejunkie 8 років тому

    ps1 "don´t join in"? what is that? you HAVE to play from the versus mode or something?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      You'd think so with the stupid message but I'm pretty sure you can actually join a 1 player game.

  • @williamhowe1
    @williamhowe1 6 років тому +2

    You forgot that the psx version doesn't have a save feature.

    • @williamhowe1
      @williamhowe1 6 років тому +1

      Oh and half the endings are missing.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  6 років тому

      Yep, true but I guess people in to fighting games don't really care about the save feature. A shame about the missing endings. I didn't know about that.

    • @deadacclol5061
      @deadacclol5061 5 років тому

      @@williamhowe1 *That's how Mafia Works*

  • @dlfrsilver
    @dlfrsilver 8 років тому

    the PC version is in fact a port of the Sega Saturn version.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      It is? What makes you say that? I'm interested to find out as I always though it was based upon the PlayStation version.

    • @dlfrsilver
      @dlfrsilver 8 років тому +1

      very easy : the Saturn version is a port of the CPS-II arcade version, released in 1996, while the PSX version is the very latest port, released in february 1998. The PC cdrom version came out just after the sega saturn version, many months before the PSX release.
      For your information, the PC version exists in 3 modes : 4, 8, and 16mb. The 16mb version has all the arcade colors, and all the sprites frames. alas, only the 8mb version has been cracked. The 4mb version is like the PSX version, the 8mb the Saturn port, and the 16mb version the arcade version. This game is a bitch to run, even in Dosbox. There is also a patch for the PC version, porting the release from v1.0 to v1.1. To use it, you need to have the original PC Cdrom.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      dlfrsilver
      Good information! Thanks for the heads up.

  • @AlviEao
    @AlviEao 8 років тому

    It boggles the mind that Probe Entertainment handled the PC version better than the PS1. Having said that, they're still nowhere near Rutubo Games' superb Saturn conversion.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому +1

      +AlviEao Rutubo Games are so good because they are made up of members from Dempa who were are part of Micomsoft who make the XRGB series of upscan converters. Dempa always made great X68000 games and even did the Mega Drive port of After Burner.

    • @Tempora158
      @Tempora158 8 років тому

      +AlviEao Probe did a really good job with the Mortal Kombat DOS port that came on CD together with MK2 in a compilation, so it's not unprecedented that Probe can get it right when they aren't under pressure from Acclaim to deliver a million ports of a hot new game that all have to ship at the same time. The MK port found on the CD collection is entirely different from their previous port that was released on floppy.

  • @mayo94
    @mayo94 8 років тому

    If i remember, when you put the Capcom RAM Cart in the slot of the Saturn, there is a new mode which appear in the option menu. Can you confirm it?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      I do think think there is for this game. As far as I remember the first RAM cart came out after this game.

    • @SDSOverfiend
      @SDSOverfiend 8 років тому +1

      Hell no.. Akklaim did that shit port before ram carts

    • @Darknight0681
      @Darknight0681 8 років тому +1

      wolfniggr1 Marvel Superheroes actually gains 90% of its animation back with the RAM cartridge. But the rest of the game being unchanged is very true.

    • @Darknight0681
      @Darknight0681 8 років тому +1

      Yeah, it actually does. I have the game itself. Granted it doesn't make the game run like Xmen Vs. Street Fighter, as there's still load times, scaled back voices, and slowdown. And you also have to set it for 3MB mode in options, which only shows up if the cartridge is in there. But it most certainly did add animation. Not all of it, but it was no longer stripped back like the PS1 version.

    • @SDSOverfiend
      @SDSOverfiend 8 років тому

      It adds 90% of the animation... I used the Original generic cart... 2 would pop up.. only character who is 90% restored is juggernaut

  • @roboyle
    @roboyle 8 років тому

    Wasn't MSH this game's successor? I remember SF vs XMen only coming out on the Saturn in Japan around the time of the Saturn's imminent death in Europe and these to games had been out for a while then.

    • @NightSprinter
      @NightSprinter 8 років тому

      MSH was the sequel, but just most remember XvSF more. Also MSH had more general Marvel characters than this and the only-once-used Infinity Gem System.

  • @chunkycjw
    @chunkycjw 8 років тому +2

    Loved this on the Saturn, can remember being blown away by the size of the sprites, animation, way you could jump and fight in mid air and the multi-stage layout levels.
    The Saturn had more ram than the PS1 leading to better animation in 2D games also i think it was originally going to be a 2D only machine but vastly superior to the Megadrive.
    Sega got a whiff of what Sony was going to be doing with the PS1 and added extra processing power. That is why the Saturn was usually better at sprite based 2D games and the PS1 was the best or easier to program for 3D games.
    I had both evetually.

    • @noop9k
      @noop9k 7 років тому

      Craig Wilson Saturn essentially doesn’t have specialized polygon rendering hardware, it is essentially an advanced sprite scaling and rotation hardware. It can be used to render 3D environments, but it is much less efficient and less capable than PS1 GPU at doing that.

  • @maticefinck8608
    @maticefinck8608 7 років тому +1

    do you think the PlayStation version of X-men vs street fighter is acceptable to play?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому

      Sure, it as well enough for the casual fighting game fan but for those who want the best, they should look towards the PC (high spec version) or Saturn. Actually the Saturn is the best choice due to the superior control pad (Japanese design).

    • @maticefinck8608
      @maticefinck8608 7 років тому

      Thanks for your advice. X-men vs street fighter just came in the mail and I am satisfied even though I thought that the PlayStations Dpad would be OK with playing it, but I was wrong. Probably will be looking into buying a third party PlayStation controller with a Dpad similar to the Saturn's Dpad.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  7 років тому +2

      Yeah, say the PlayStation D-pad is awful for fighting games. There are those that say it's great but obviously they're just fan boys or know no better. See if you can get a PlayStation to Saturn pad converter. I know they make them for Dreamcast so I hope you can get one for the PlayStation. Facing that, Hori make some excellent PlayStation joysticks and pads which would be worth checking out. I use Hori sticks and pads with my PS2 because I find d Sony's pads to be horrible to use.

  • @afriend9428
    @afriend9428 2 роки тому +2

    *SEGA SATURN all the way!* ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

  • @spooky_electric
    @spooky_electric 5 років тому

    RetroBoi! Do Marvel Super Heroes. The US Saturn release supported the 1MEG ram cart, despite it not releasing in the West, so it's a good point of comparison vs the PS version.

  • @oscarzxn4067
    @oscarzxn4067 4 роки тому +5

    Probe doing a half assed job? nothing new here.

  • @hardwiredxs
    @hardwiredxs 8 років тому

    Only played the playstation version, and enjoyed it... Never played any other hw version of this.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      +João Ralha Give the Saturn port a try if you every get the chance. It's much better. Don't play the PAL version though.

  • @fallofsaigon
    @fallofsaigon 8 років тому

    AWESOME!!!!

  • @magnumforcemopar402
    @magnumforcemopar402 6 років тому +7

    When praising the pc games we should keep in mind the shit controllers and drivers they had back then.

  • @MVC2fan1
    @MVC2fan1 6 років тому +1

    Try the ports of Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  6 років тому +1

      I only have access to the Saturn port of that.

    • @capcom23
      @capcom23 6 років тому +2

      just download emulator. no one will tell ;-). Demul works perfect for dreamcast Marvel vs. capcom. Bizhawk perfect for Saturn. Bizhawk also perfect for psx 1 version and then at last Mame (arcade) works perfect. Go show us

    • @devingiles6597
      @devingiles6597 3 роки тому +1

      @@RetroCore Well. Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes did get a release on the Sega Dreamcast.

  • @StanislaoMoulinsky79
    @StanislaoMoulinsky79 5 років тому

    Didn't the PC version lack the ability to do Chain Combos?

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  5 років тому +1

      I dont recall, sorry.

    • @StanislaoMoulinsky79
      @StanislaoMoulinsky79 5 років тому

      So, I've dug up my ~20 years old CD of the game, booted it up and...yep. Chain Combos don't work. Google also show mentions of this. It's a shame because everything else is good (those redbook BGMs!). :(

    • @Darknight0681
      @Darknight0681 2 місяці тому

      It needed a specific patch for that. But even with that, there were a ton of other inaccuracies in the gameplay that Probe didn’t bother to fix unfortunately. It’s literally the ONLY reason it’s not the definitive home version IMO.

  • @RallyDon82
    @RallyDon82 8 років тому +1

    lol at the ps1 port using fmv intro, lazy probe.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      +RallyDon82 It's probably like that because they couldn't get all the satge details and characters in to memory for the fast transitions.

  • @TheNawaf258
    @TheNawaf258 8 років тому

    I do have it on ps1 it was one of ps1 collection game and x-man children of atom was one of them sure it frame rate is bad at it all it is fun but there's one fatal flaw in ps1 the counties are limited all counties gone game over back to start

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      +TheNawaf258 Yes, that's so true. Why on earth did they limit the continues in a fighting game. That's just stupid.

    • @TheNawaf258
      @TheNawaf258 8 років тому

      yes that goes same way on mortal kombat 4 is has same limit the continues again

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      ***** just as well I don't rate any Mortal Kombat game.

  • @pcbjunkie1
    @pcbjunkie1 7 років тому +1

    Yeah... I got the CPS2 board of this... I may have 2 in fact. Don't like it... should sell it.

  • @CasperEgas
    @CasperEgas 5 років тому

    Wow, the Playstation version looks rough. I have only played the Saturn and arcade versions myself. Don't really like the game that much. (Multi tier/ not tire)

  • @crunchsixfoe
    @crunchsixfoe 6 років тому +1

    This game barely even holds up as an arcade original. Many later CPS2 releases made this basically redundant IMO. So when you factor in the PSX is a horrible port of THAT, I really have no explanation how it's selling for $90+ on eBay.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  6 років тому +1

      i quite like this game. True, it'S not as good as the later releases but it still has it's charm.

    • @Spolupyo
      @Spolupyo 5 років тому +1

      maybe, but in terms of sheer animation and detail this game beats all of its "sequels", multiple background layers, floor raster effects, very detailed/animated and changing stages, and full walking animations for characters such as Wolverine, Psylocke, Juggernaut, Omega Red and Sentinel whose animation had to be cut for later Marvel based games (with Spiral totally removed for later games for having too complex/detailed animation, MVC2 sprite has lots of frames missing)

    • @sega_kid4288
      @sega_kid4288 5 років тому

      Nostalgia cost. I dunno know how old you are but as a 10 year old fan of cartoon and seeing this in an arcade my mind was blown. I'm sure a lot of people my age want to own it in their homes. I have the Saturn version I pop it in every now and again to get that fix lol

  • @kingnoire9587
    @kingnoire9587 3 роки тому +7

    Safe to say any arcade fighter from 94-99 ported to the ps1 is absolute garbage lol

    • @DARS_04
      @DARS_04 2 роки тому +2

      Even the 3D ones had their quirks. Still a good console.

    • @matthewnikitas8905
      @matthewnikitas8905 2 роки тому +2

      Marvel vs Capcom was a good port

    • @kingnoire9587
      @kingnoire9587 2 роки тому +1

      @@matthewnikitas8905 lol FALSE!! No tag system, constant loading bruh that port was BUTT!!

    • @m.jordan5181
      @m.jordan5181 9 місяців тому

      ​@@matthewnikitas8905To what? The Dreamcast? Or the Xbox 360 ala MvC: Origins?

    • @matthewnikitas8905
      @matthewnikitas8905 9 місяців тому

      @@m.jordan5181 To the PS1… Refer to the original comment

  • @Tempora158
    @Tempora158 8 років тому

    Tiered is not pronounced the same as tired.

  • @VaughnJogVlog
    @VaughnJogVlog 6 років тому +3

    DON’T JOIN IN

    • @chamchamtrigger
      @chamchamtrigger 6 років тому +1

      I thought I was the only one who noticed that.

  • @marioghernandez4960
    @marioghernandez4960 6 років тому +2

    Did you just say...
    ACCLAIM??????

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  6 років тому

      Yes. That's how it's pronounced.

    • @marioghernandez4960
      @marioghernandez4960 6 років тому

      I meant, I was raging at Acclaim for their god awful port.
      Also, the secret rule is to NEVER SPEAK OF THEM unless it's an absolute must to do so.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  6 років тому

      Oh, Acclaim were lucky to distribute this in the West.

    • @marioghernandez4960
      @marioghernandez4960 6 років тому +1

      Well we're UNlucky to have gotten such an awful port.

  • @noop9k
    @noop9k 7 років тому +1

    it is quite annoying to see many episodes made with misconfigured dosbox emulator.

    • @Mibit911
      @Mibit911 6 років тому

      noop9k i cant ever get dosbox to run worth a shit got any tips?

  • @izzie31
    @izzie31 8 років тому +2

    Was just playing this on mame lol and all i have to say is.....OMEGA DESTROYERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR haha love this game.

  • @SomeOrangeCat
    @SomeOrangeCat 8 років тому

    Saturn was a 2D powerhouse. Unfortunately it was such in a time when eager gamers were hungry for a 3D powerhouse. I remember many Saturn ports of 3D games like Doom just being awful and choppy, compared to the PSX versions. Especially Doom! The Saturn port had none of the cool lighting effects, and felt like it ran at half the frame rate.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому +3

      +Andrew Vrba +Andrew Vrba Such a time when casual gamers were board I like to think.
      The amount of shit companies such as Gremlin Interactive and Psygnosis
      churned out yet everyone though they were amazing games. Crazy Ivan,
      Nova Storm, Adidas Power Soccer (or whatever it was called), Assault
      Rigs and so one were all sub par crap yet they sold by the truck load.
      As for Saturn Doom, well that was programmed by idiots. Saturn Quake,
      Duke Nukem 3D, Exhumed and even Hexen prove that the system could have
      done a silky smooth version of Doom. Strangely the Japanese release of
      Saturn Doom is smother than the western version. It's still rubbish
      mind you.

    • @SomeOrangeCat
      @SomeOrangeCat 8 років тому +1

      Retro Core I'm guessing we have "They made the architecture too complex!" to blame for less than stellar ports of 3D titles then.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      Andrew Vrba
      Probably

    • @SomeOrangeCat
      @SomeOrangeCat 8 років тому

      Retro Core I had Saturn for a while, with one of those generic Action Replay/Import player/Ram carts, once upon a time. Those carts are a must own, if you want to get the most out of the hardware.

    • @RetroCore
      @RetroCore  8 років тому

      I guess so but in all honesty I've never had the use for one but that's probably because I've I always had a memory card plugged in and only used the internal save for games that needed a ram cart of some sort.
      Now you've made me want to get a 4 in 1 cart :p

  • @SDSOverfiend
    @SDSOverfiend 8 років тому +1

    Both Versions of this game is trash.. Saturn and Psx..