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openSUSE Tumbleweed: My First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Since I checked out openSUSE 15.3 recently, I thought it was only fair that I also check out Tumbleweed as well. Tumbleweed is a rolling distribution that's always updated, and is a great fit for people that prefer the "install once, update forever" mentality. In this video, I'll give you guys my thoughts after checking out openSUSE Tumbleweed for the very first time.
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Thanks so much for covering openSUSE. As a blind user, this is by far my favourite distro. Orca, a Linux screen reader, used to play ball with GNome, but now it’s god awful and can’t even read the activities window. Solution on most distros would be to install a new desktop environment and remove the old one with some terminal magic and hope you didn’t break something. SUSE? Pick xfce in the installer and have another coffee whilst the network installer sets up your accessible desktop environment, then when on the desktop, alt control t, sudo zypper install orca, password y. Love YaST, but wish that worked with Orca, unfortunately I have to use the command line version over SSH from my Mac with magnification, which is both incredibly useful and better than nothing even though sometimes I’d rather use the App versions.
So which combinaison of distro, Desktop and set of basic application works better for a blind user of linux. I tried xfce and orca on debian 9 and it was not very smooth.... I had to use screen magnification in many situation.
I don't know if you know about it or if it's usable for you, but you can use YAST from/in the terminal.
I still think where OpenSuSE shines most is as a server over a desktop. Things like AutoYaST, KIWI, and OBS make it really easy to customize, deploy, and maintain.
But yast on fedora would be nice
@@Ghfvhvfgpop
The recommended method of updating Tumbleweed is to run 'zypper dup' in a terminal as the super user
That's what yast tells you to do if you try to use it to update.
1:40: "You didn't talk about X, you didn't mention Y" Most Linux videos don't talk about X, except to point out that the distro has Wayland ;-)
only the brightest amongst us will understand
I just switched to openSUSE and I love the installer, it found my old boot root and home partitions all just replaced them.
Thanks for going through openSUSE! Always great to hear your thoughts.
Excellent job as usual, I enjoy the good with the bad, in the real world, things don't always go smoothly, so it's good that you showed that and that it was worth it once you got past those issues. Hopefully the Devs at OpenSuse will be watching this and already have an updated installer in the works. At least one that you can pick your default style Vid drvr like either an AMD or NVidia package like I have seen others recently like PopOS. Thanks for showing all the positive, very much worth the look with the hypervisor and windows domain features, very interesting
Finally a well put together channel that is keen on educating and informing users. Subbed!
Never had a single one of those problems because I always opt for XFCE desktop version. The best.
Thx for the quick review. The awful looking install process was enough to force me to look elsewhere.
Recently installed OpenSUSE and LOVING it!
I installed KDE version of OpenSuse and it seems nice. You are right, HiDpi screen do not look that great.
It has really taken me a while to really understand what the heck the deal was with this distro and why so few people actually touch on it and I realized that it's not exactly meant for desktop users, the DE is kinda there as an afterthought. OpenSUSE really shines in it's unique tools that it has but those tools aren't something an average user needs and thats why I never hear much about it. Pretty cool, but it ain't for me lol
Appreciate the in-depth review, got curious about how OpenSuse compares my baby, Arch, and while this video doesn't really compare them, there's so much detail you can get a rough idea.
Installed Tumbleweed with KDE and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it to show a GUI login screen. It boots to CLI and I can login and start KDE with startx command, but I cannot get it to use GUI login. I reinstalled because my previous Tumbleweed install (which has been upgraded from Leap) started doing the same thing, it was KDE also. Already tried installing sddm, lightdm, gdm, none will work as a login, I'm just not knowledgeable enough and never experienced this on any other distro. Fishing for some ideas or, I'm just going to nuke it and install with GNOME. I did untick autologin during setup but, I tried to turn back on after and of course, I can't because CLI only login now.
Thanks for the review, may have to find a spare drive to play with.
I critique to be made here about your video. When explaining acronyms of program names it would be nice that it would be explained what they mean and what function. Like KVM.
You have non Linux users exploring their options in changing OS and have no clue what these names are and function. Anyone already on linux are not so lost as anyone like me might be
First to comment! Love openSUSE Tumbleweed gnome!!!! Thanks for the video Jay!!!!!!!
thank you for your point of view. I agree to you, the installer is a no go (on Macbook Air, End 2011) Somehow disappointing not to enjoy btrfs and YAST. Will try your recommended Pop!OS next.
Nice vid thanks ! Your screen def problem : very annoying and unacceptable indeed ! I'm not an OpenSuse user (just Debian and Ubuntu based distros compatible with Compiz) but do you think it may be caused by Wayland ?
Can you run Xorg instead ?
Cheers :)
It works fine on me. I have Nvidia gpu with X11
I would be shocked if the yast installation tool was running in wayland. I think there is a way to run the yast installer in a basic graphics mode that looks a lot like a slackware installer.
Great Thanks for your honest first impressions on Tumbleweed. I tried the new openSUSE 15.3 the other day and must say that it seemed to still have quite a few basic problems, even if it is a beta it doesn't install much confidence in a distro when this happens, however I am sure it will get fixed at some point ?
Why do people hate new Adwaita so much? It's not completely flat but it's so pretty! It's very well thought through and functional.
Because it looks ugly and dated. Not the buggiest fan of flat but it's still ugly.
Thanks for your video. I would also appreciate if you could make more videos on SuSE, since it doesn't receive a lot of attention.
There's brazilian distro based on OpenSuse Tumbleweed called Regata OS. It uses Calamares installer and comes with Nvidia drivers pre-installed.
spot on review, thx!
No problem!
i had installed opensuse tumbleweed recently.but so many packages are missing including zypper.then i tried to install through rpm repository.but it is saying dependencies are missing.how to install zypper with its depedencies.
Hi Jay,
A suggested topic for a btrfs video: does it work well with full disk encryption? I've read somewhere that there either were or are issues in this area. IMO - full risk encryption should at least be an option, if not the default when installing an OS.
Awesome video! Will OpenSUSE perform on an atom 1.33 GHz with 2 GB RAM Toshiba Encore II tablet? It is severely underpowered.
we don't have that problem in a system that has 4k resolution
Gecko Linux install media may solve your Nvidia flicked issue, as it enables packman by default. Dunno if the drivers are there on the live iso. Unfortunately it uses calamares, which as far as I can tell, has no ability to properly configure btrfs. You would have to go in manually afterwards and set up sunvolumes in either the timeshift or snapper structure.
Did You make review of OpenSUSE Microos?
I want to see openSUSE KDE but why all the newer videos are on GNOME :'(.
By the way I subscribed!
GNOME 40 recently came out, which was pretty big. Most people using OpenSUSE Tumbleweed actually use KDE. I'm really enjoying KDE 5.21. OpenSUSE is often considered the best KDE experience.
WHY do you use that resolution for video. We are watching this on laptop or mobile phone. Should we use zooooooom 🔎
Please please help me ... When I installed any version of Linux... the installation was completed successfully, but after restarting my computer hdmi there is no signal .... knowing I have a Nvidia graphics card 1060 3 gb, and x370 carbon motherboard, and the Rizen 7 1700 processor .... Please help me please
Try "nomodeset pci=nomsi,noaer" in your bott flags in grub before booting the os
My first experience with OpenSuse Tumbleweed KDE was not great. I installed it and next day I had 2600 packages to update cause gcc10 was released and someone decided to recompile whole distro.
Installer takes long to go through. Packages likely have finer granularity and update process is slower than on Manjaro and updates are much more frequent. On the other hand OpenSuse Leap seemed perfectly fine ... well, KDE 18 is a bit outdated, but it's fine.
What I sort of miss in this review and which is somewhat important to me is philosophy and attitude towards "binary blobs" such as proprietary virtual box drivers, nvidia drivers, vivaldi browser, spotify, skype, zoom, OBS, .... video codecs .... and difficulty to install and update them. Other important feature to me is package manager, it's speed, features such as being able to see which packages were installed manually and to remove libraries with no dependencies. I think I'll stick with Manjaro, cause I havent found anything better, but I was looking for something that has KDE, that is stable and it does not break when it's not updated for year (10 years old notebook being used rarely and connected only via mobile data)
opensuse + gnome is very bloated. Alot of usseless apps. After installing my additionals packages not tooo much im broked this distro, reinstalled and its happens again so im switched back to arch linux. Alot of apps are missed there, when i did clean install with gnome desktop alot of packages are missed like gnome-backgrounds..srsly?..
I think I will stick with POP cosmic. Just what I wanted as far as Gnome goes.
Pop! is Gnome desktop on steroids :D
ngl cosmic is shit
I agree the high dpi issue during the install is an annoyance, but OpenSuse is known for enterprise use and high dpi is probably not a big concern for the majority. OpenSuse can do everything well even being a powerful workstation but it does feel they provide gui environments but not a lot of focus and polish there as with other distros that focus on workstation use first.
That's strange about the small fonts, never had that problem with openSUSE. Sounds to me like a Nvidia or GNOME thing (AMD and KDE user here never had these issues). The only thing that bugs me about openSUSE is the unofficial repositories can be a mixed bag, other than that it's pretty rock solid.
Do you have a HiDPI screen?
@@LearnLinuxTVAdmittedly no, if that is the problem they really need to fix it, HiDPI displays are pretty common now.
5:46 The same thing happens to me when I use the Firestorm Viewer.
what do you think about hefftorlinux....?
Tried this couple of times... Better have nobara over this distro..
Used side in the past, had problems with the installation process. Using same computer, it would never install the same way twice, used freebsd instead.
Freebsd was more involved than suse install. However, it worked and did everything linux could do. Also used slackware and had less problems.
I hate the installer. In mine the text was overlapping, and I couldn't read anything.
btw I use Tumbleweed KDE
Opensuse Tumbleweed is awesome
This is why people should use amd on linux
Hey Jay. Can you do the Zabbix tutorial?
I prefer Leap, Tumbleweed is not my cup of tea, great video Jay.
OpenSuse time to install is like installing Windows 98 on 1999 hardware. It's insane considering that most Linux distros take about 2.5 - 3 minutes.
There is a payoff for steady installation that will help ensure system stability which results in longer installation time compared to your avarage garage distro
@@dorukhan8707 You might want to post a source for that being the reason the installation is that slow, because I don't believe you at all.
It's because it's an online installer, just like EndeavorOS.
I tried to install tumbleweed no sound came out of it .mint works great of the box
Thank you, Jay.
Cinnamon has better HiDPI support.
that logo
It's because you are using NVIDIA that u have these problems.
american: "opensusa / opensus"
asian: "opensusei"
Distro should be called OpenSeizure Tinywords
Liked to make it 1k 😬
So much easier than installing via floppies...
I remember that. Even with CD's in the first decade of this century it went to about 14.
If there were a God, opensuse would hire Colin Jost and Michael Che to review your UA-cam channel
OpenSUSE and Fedora always came off as those weird distros that you didn't know who used.
Wen bsd? lol
Open suse must create its own desktop environment
Your problems come from the Nvidia driver, maybe one day GNU / linux users will learn to buy hardware that uses open drivers.
So for what my advice is, use AMD or Intel and you will have no problems, I say it from experience, my desktop was equipped with an Nvidia and after years of swearing both with Ubuntu and with any other distribution, I decided to buy an AMD, I'm not exaggerating, but all the problems are gone.
Unfortunately the installers of the various distributions have to find a method to determine which driver to use, some installers do it one way, others do it another, consequently some may have your problems with Ubuntu, others with openSUSE etc. there is no correct method.
This
Tumbleweed is not for a new user, it takes an effort to get things running smoothly. I had the same problems but once upgraded and set up all the codecs things became stable only after a couple of reboots. Sorry Suse you can not beat Arch.
Why in the world would you have 4K in your laptop
Because he can. Why in the world are you so stuck up? 🙄
Why do we have font aliasing? Render a circle in 100x100 pixels. Now render that circle in in 200x200 pixels. The second circle looks way better. It follows that all fonts look way better (and they do). Your comment seems to come from a place of willful ignorance.
Too negative….it’s you I am sure bye
Horrible installation process. Then you conclude it is an awesome distribution. What?