Was The Manga Really Better?
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With Tokyo Ghoul, I can understand the art not matching up. But the fact they skipped key emotional elements of the story is inexcusable
I will never forgive them for not at least giving the courtesy of animating nuggetneki
“Taught an entire generation that good animation is equal to good action scenes “
Truer words haven’t been said!!
Me dreaming of a tokyo ghoul reboot knowing it'll prolly never happen
Lmao, as much as we'd like it to, rights to shows as commercially successful as Tokyo ghoul don't just get handed over...
Another one I think was missed was Mob Psycho 100! The anime is soooo much better than the manga. Not that the story itself wasn't good--coming from an avid manga read versus anime watcher--because I love the story in itself, but Studio Bones did a PHENOMENAL job with the animation I just couldn't take my eyes off it or get enough of it. They took such a refreshing a creative approach that I just loved. They interpreted the scenes and emotions and developed the source material and art style (aka Reigen) sooo well that it still felt so genuine to the original craft that One created. You also can't tell me that Mob Choir aren't geniuses when it came to the soundtrack. I had that soundtrack on loop for weeksss. They couldn't have adapted it any better, in my opinion.
I agree with the ajin take tbh. They used the particle effects and lighting direction amazingly well and the CGI was worth it.
From what Shuhei Morita (the director of Tokyo Ghoul S1 and S2) said in a Reddit AMA, Ishida only wrote the draft for Root A and gave it to Morita, but apparently a lot of the things in that draft were changed because of the "people up above".
So Tokyo Ghoul is another example of having very competent people working on it but getting screwed royally by a production comittee.
It all comes down to the people above who aren't even the ones adapting the show and are only in it for the money to ruin something amazing that can give them more money in the long run just to have money quick for the short run.
Thats always the excuse they use though. I'm starting to wonder if it's even true or he's just trying to save face.
@@sunbark4927why they would ruin it when they don't have any reason to do it? It's obvious now that production committees just want a product. Not a finished product (only some of them are actually good). I Don't Really get it, it dosen't even makes sense in Terms of business. Their management is quite shit
@@user-og6pb6dd5p I'm not saying they wanted to ruin it but maybe they don't want to admit to their own mistakes. People in the anime industry seem very quick to blame anyone but themselves
@@sunbark4927 well season 2 seems to have a lot more than a (mistake) lmao
My counter argument to "Mikasa was one dimensional in the anime" has always been that in S4 her newfound maturity is more noticeable and satisfying to witness.
It's similar to Floch's character shift when he goes from a coward at the end of S3 to a facist extremist and I've always been fond of that type of character arc.
Thing is tho, floch had a moment which would change his personality around, him coming face to face with death and living to tell the tale. Nothing that drastic happened to Mikasa between s3 and s4 (surely eren going rogue while still writing letters isn't that big of a deal) so her personality change comes off as abrupt I feel...
The anime takes away a lot of Mikasa's other characteristics that are present in the manga and it does make her feel really one dimensional
@@justameme1516 In the anime, yeah. Manga? Not as much.
The studio never used almost all of the stuff Ishida wrote for season 2. Instead of the cochlea raid it was supposed to be the raid on Kano's lab but Kaneki was supposed to be part of Aogiri and Ishida wrote and illustrated a scene where Touka sees Rize in the container
I gotta be honest man I didn’t think that you’ll bring up Komi and when you did I got really happy 😂. Also I as someone who has read the whole Komi manga I do agree that the anime is better. Just the amount of effort they put into it is just so jarring for me and I just can’t wait until they animate the rest of the manga.
Yup. Makes me wonder how much consistent the anime would've looked if Summertime Render wasn't produced alongside it, and Ayumu Watanabe focused entirely on it instead.
@@carloscauan7967it still looked Really good when it needed tho. Also summertime Render and komi has similarities in the staff?
damn i learn a lot with your vids, at this point you are doing edutainment. keep up the good work-
Thanks a lot 🙏🙌
I wonder if you would make a Pt. 2 of this video especially the likes of JJK or CSM with the latter compared it to the manga so bad to the point a lot of people say that the manga is better compared to the anime.
Also, on an unrelated note, funny that you mentioned Ajin in this video because recently I watch Promare and was captivated by its animation and ngl some parts of Promare actually use CGI quite well as it blend in with 2D nicely.
Yes I'll very well make a part two, it does somewhat depend on how well this vid does, I haven't seen promare but I've heard some really good things about it
@@ProbablyPretentious Aight, we'll see how this pans out.
I think it's funny because for me the CSM manga is almost a copy of the manga.
Really good analyze!
Part 1 of TG is just something else. I honestly would have been fine with the series ending on 143, and no re, and I think it would’ve been really poetic as being only Kaneki’s story, though re also has some amazing moments, especially in the first half
Lemme add some more:
Vinland Saga: On par with manga, S1 and S2
One Piece: Manga is better mainly coz of pacing, though animation in Wano is great
DR. STONE: Manga, the art is beautiful in the manga (though I don't think anime adaptation is bad)
Season 1 had of VS had some issues tho. Specially during mid way. The art kinda looked cartoonish and it was like a watered down version of the manga. Not to mention those ugly CGI models
Hell nahh. Vinland Saga s1 is not nearly as good as manga. Even s2 is not but it's much more better than s1. The paneling and artwork are just too good
@@simplyrohith2163 Artwork wasn't the best at the beginning in the manga imo. I much prefer the artwork around/after the prologue in the manga (I think it switched from weekly to monthly). Understandable if you think manga is better, but I don't think it's a big difference.
Nice video the hot take about the ajin anime being better than the manga caught me off guard but i respect your opinion 👍
I guessed that the ajin take will turn some heads, I do genuinely mean it tho, I love the camerawork as stuff
I think both are very good, but the author's art of Ajin is very good.
This manga vs anime topic is just a matter of personal opinions......some people think manga is just superior even if Anime do some parts better like in s4 hayashi elevates some of the manga panels into whole new level (path scene,grisha scene and many more) but some people still think it's "1:1 adaptation" or manga just did better(specially action parts) but again we can't blame them though when shits like berserk 2016, PNL S2,Tokyo ghoul,RoR and many more inferior adaptation exist which for years haunted manga readers
I do blame there's a lot of good anime for these guys to use Berserk 2016, PNL whatever as an example.
Ayyeee, great takes i agree with all except Komi, I just enjoy it more in a manga format, although the adaption is absolutely amazing
Ajin praise is something I'll always be down for
I dont watch a whole lot of Anime anymore and Im beginning to age out of the seasonal audience for a lot of this stuff, but your absolutely right about Ajin. Its a phenomenal CGI show.
I think that if Erased (Boku Dake ga Inai Machi) got a reboot wherein they gave it 24 episodes or 13-15 episodes and a film would probably be able to surpass the manga if it has the same visual quality, brilliant voice acting and an amazing soundtrack.
That hot take at the ending blew me away... I don't agree but I respect your opinion... The Manga was just better in my opinion. I haven't seen the whole anime... couldn't continue or start properly cos' I don't go too well with CGI and the movements. Prefer traditional 2D Anime.
But nice video all in all. 🔥👌
about manga vs anime I tend to think better about the manga not because is a "superior medium" or for better static drawings but because sometimes the mangaka is the best among the best, Horikoshi, Tabata, Oda, Makoto Yukimura are all monsters, to better than a great manga you need to be great adaptaton, not just normal, but there are few animes that gain this tratament.
Honestly, the Vinland Saga anime convinced me to follow the story like the manga didn't from the beginning, I don't know if it's because it started differently I just know that it was the anime that convinced me to read the manga and the team did such a good job that I still watch the anime because it's a different experience.
That thumbnail had me triggered for a second
The manga is able to incorporate a ton of detail for specific panels or short bursts at it is infinitely easier and less time consuming to detail the living hell out of a character for an arc or two (See Vigilante Deku) rather than to animate that. While you can get to a comparable level, it is difficult regardless to keep that level of detail. Now some shows do make a scene look worse with lackluster animation or detail. (See Drawf Form Charmy and her wolf form in Black Clover)
But that's where the anime media point comes in that already says in the name "animation", decrease the details and focus totally on dynamism and fluidit, all the details will be focused on these two aspects to have these beautiful animes.
Thank God someone pointed out the dialogue in BLUE LOCK, the "I have a monster inside me too" cringe the heck out of me and made me want to click off the episode.
yes
I think they are different media that have resources to be used in both, nowadays we are in time to have more adaptations in anime even if it remains very faithful to the original, Chainsaw Man is kind of the story of the manga without taking away but with its own tone adapting the tone of the manga otherwise something that bothered a crowd who expected something in the style of Mob Psycho.
I can't blame those who want manga with movement, don't want changes, because that's how this industry worked for a long time the anime served to sell the manga, today I see something very different, which is the animators wanting to make a product that validates itself a bad result in the media will give this impression of the manga being superior and here comes the point that annoys me, which is when they say that an anime is better than a manga because the mangaka have a more stylized and simplified style I think that when aesthetics become a reason for superiority, the discussion tires me.
Tokyo Ghoul manga covers are just *chef's kiss*. Same with Bleach and D gray man. I prefer manga most of the time but maybe that's because I just don't care to watch anime anymore. And you are so right about Blue Lock. I had to skip Ego's speech in 1st episode cause it was so cringe someone actually saying it. Only 2 anime I am watching rn are Bleach and CSM. And I prefer both in manga version more. (except Bleach adding new scenes which are important)
Idk how I feel about the csm Manga > anime take tbh, but if I was in charge of the blue lock anime, some major rewrites would be taking place ngl
@@ProbablyPretentious That's fair. I think for Chainsaw man, it comes down to what you are looking for. What hooked me to CSM is simplistic paneling, backgrounds and humor, all of which when contrast with pageturns with highly detailed backgrounds, paneling which reminds you of cinema and acting, and subtle more morbid scenes, makes for a very satisfying experience. It is such an easy read. Now I know that anime is taking a bit of different direction while keeping the cinematic side of CSM to the forefront, I just don't enjoy it as much. But for others, it might be opposite and I can respect that.
@@ProbablyPretentious I mean I would say it’s the general consensus among CSM fans. I think you’re the only person I’ve seen that thinks the manga is better.
the cgi nets are perfectly fine
Which studio do you think would nail Tokyo ghoul...?
People have asked me that a lot actually, and my answer is always the same, production ig, or more accurately the psycho pass team, that urban atmosphere with the gritty vibe is just perfect for tg I feel
@@ProbablyPretentious the psycho pass team was special...
I enjoyed the atmosphere that they built into the world ...
How they displayed the brutality of the system....
I really liked how they really don't ease you into the world but just throw you into the deep end (they could do something similar to how kaneki was just thrust into the world of ghouls as a former human)
People think its impossible to recreate Sui ishida's art which is not the case
I think for Tokyo ghoul, what really is required is first class character acting and first class expressions whilst setting the mood of a dark unforgiving world...obviously top sakuga work...
@@ProbablyPretentious is that the same team as Ghost in the Shell Standalone Complex?
Thoughts on jojo part 6 animation
The cgi use is questionable, aside from that it looks solid
Bro its almost like you can see the future, the new episode of mha is getting shit on because it doesnt "do justice" to the manga
Damn I was on board for everything except for what he said about Horimiya and Komi 💀💀 We really disagree on the slice of life I guess
Horimiya I get, but why on earth would you think that the komi Manga is better tho?
Oof haven’t watched it since s1 came out so some points I can’t remember specific examples of, but lemme see what I can remember. The anime definitely has beautiful art and animation, especially in the first episode, and I really love and appreciate that part of it! But, (and I recognize this is a really personal thing) in some ways the anime feels too tied to the manga for it to really be its own thing. I always get annoyed when an anime adaptation tries to translate things that work in manga into anime without adapting it to the medium. Lots of parts where in the manga there’s a text box that explains something, the anime will have the exact same textbox, which I find unnecessary in the anime. Sometimes it’ll explain something in the manga that we can’t see because it’s still, but it’s kept in the anime, even when we can already clearly see the character do what the box is saying. Also, a text box like this works a lot better in manga where you can stop and read it, unlike anime, where you can’t take your time with it. The text boxes are essential to the tone and style of the mana, give the manga a very distinct charm that works really well for it, and give it a lot of its character. I just don’t think it’s as charming when it’s in the medium of anime since it doesn’t feel like it was made to be in an anime. The same charm can be achieved by the great art and timing and animation, and a lot of the time it does use those things, but it still leans on it like a crutch, which is really distracting for me. When I’m watching, I’m constantly being reminded that it’s an adaptation instead of being able to be sucked into it as its own thing (I’m realizing as I write this that this might be a me problem). I like when adaptations that take the source material and make it feel like it was made for the medium its being adapted into instead of holding on to parts of the source material that don’t translate. I admit that a lot of parts definitely adapted the jokes of the manga really well. But I was still constantly distracted by the ones that I could tell were made for the medium of manga. I feel like that happens a lot in slice of life/ romcoms especially, like Horimiya too. I still really enjoy parts of it and am glad I watched/read both, but the manga felt like it was the more natural medium for it to me. But I definitely see what there is to appreciate about the anime, I can’t disagree with the show looking great.
So your saying if I like domekano anime - the manga is even better 😏
Yes absolutely the Manga is pure peak, although the ending is quite controversial
Route A wasn’t written by the author. They threw his ideas out actually.
Manga is always better
Demon slayer anime is way better than the manga .
Here's a controversial one... manga or anime: Chainsaw Man?
How is that controversial? Anime is so clear
@@ProbablyPretentious wait, really? It seems that the manga is the clear winner, but is the anime that good? I haven’t seen it, so maybe I’m remembering the first few chapters were better than they actually were.
All of them were W takes and then Ajin anime>manga???? How? no way it wasn't satire💀
Saved it for the last for a reason, I loved the cinematic vibe and the cgi makes that possible, the soundtrack is amazing, the choreography for some of the fights are amazing the camerawork is amazing, I love the anime idk what to tell ya lmao
Manga's usually better as they add character details and details to make the story, well, more interesting.
Bs. Aot manga is definitely better than mappa anime
Oh I love to read still images than watch moving characters! 😬🤡
@@Cypress_animation - 🤡
@@SamirSiraj8542 boo that’s a unique comeback haven’t seen like 500 people misuse it
It was 99% of time lol
Eh...not really, we need popularize the phrase "the light novel was better" generally the light novels get the dime a dozen adaptations, Manga still gets a lot of love
@@ProbablyPretentious Tokyo ghoul root A wasn't written by Tokyo ghoul's author. You got that wrong there. Sui ishida gave his draft for anime original season after season 1 but studio perriot rejected it and only took some plot points from sui ishida's original draft.
I see, my bad, I read it somewhere but that must've been incorrect, either way it sucks...
@@ProbablyPretentious it might have actually been good if studio perriot actually followed sui ishida's draft.
heres a random take
violet evergarden is a better character than your favourite character
whats with the random comment
@@mxworkouts2982 um i was bored
i will just say askeladd from vinland saga and nothing more
@@randomannoyance askalad is one of my favourite characters.he is incredibly well written.yeah you have nice taste there