Crimewatch File - The Railway Murders (August 1988)
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- BBC Crimewatch File reconstructs the inside story of a major police investigation. Between December 1985 and May 1986 three young women - Alison Day, Maartje Tamboezer and Anne Lock - were raped and murdered.
I so enjoy these videos. No crazy loud music, no zooming in and out, no gunshots between sentences, just good old fashioned detective work. Excellent !!!
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Is your dad's name Donald?
@@Jamie-gs3yp ..... yes, I was named after him.
@@doneldamacdonnell8602 It's an unusual name for a girl but it's very pretty
I agree
Yes this is how you present this kind of show. Quiet, factual, no squawking, jangly music to assault your ears, and distract you from the facts.
The good old days of actual fact.
I agree with you completely. That’s all you need. People speaking and giving information. It’s a breath of fresh air!
Now they have cgi blood splatters over the screen and such on the intro and other bits, turning life into a horror film
@@whoashellfishwwww my
So no fun basically
This is how true crime docs should be: the original detectives interviewed about the nuts and bolts of the operation, not the constant repetition and phoney "experts" regurgitating textbook stuff on psychopathy so common to today's material.
Agree, 100%
Damn right
Ditto to every comment in this thread!
Perfectly put Sir.
Agree. They've dumbed down now with 'experts' rehashing the bleedin' obvious.
I remember the Maartje Tamboezer murder in Horsley very well. I was a 14 year old boy at the time living in Effingham - the next village along about 1/2 mile away. Everyone in the area was devastated by what had happened and I had cycled along that path myself as a child. Maartje is still remembered in the village today.
I'm sorry on the memory. Did yu remember what a creepy dwarf he was?
@@kimmccabe1422 yes. I remember everything.
Gosh, thank you Eamonn, l'm glad Maartje is still remembered, that shows respect for her and her family and the village. God bless!
She looked really pretty in those photos.
I suppose that being Dutch she was used to cycling in safety in Holland.
...as a man, it's disappointing that some men are so twisted and disturbed that they can even consider doing such dreadful things to innocent girls and women. Worse that they'd carry out their dirty deeds...
Now the police let men dressed as women into girls changing rooms … how time changes
@@diegestive4167 sad isn’t it?
@@diegestive4167 That's a seperate issue. You can't define trans women solely on your terms i.e. define them as 'men'.
You are limited to debating your position - but labelling trans women as 'men' is just one of many political positions.
We have to be fair and ensure that traditional women are granted their rights but not to the extent that they encroach on trans womens' rights.
@@cahillgreg yes I can describe anything I want on my terms …. The so called trans community are demanding we play along with their fantasies demand we use pronouns they’ve made up demand we except guys dressed as girls teaching OUR kids so don’t tell me I can’t describe something the way I want .
@@cahillgreg why do they deserve special rights ? They seem to be getting more than anyone else … shame you can’t see the agenda at foot here.
This is just the 2nd show I've seen of this series : brilliant re-enactment involving actual detectives, good actors (the guy who played Duffy was terrific) and a first rate voice -over. Typical British quality. Many thanks redcard74 !!!
Its a superb idea to have the real detectives involved. Its a wonderful innovation and adds realism and grit to the stories. British TV has slowly died since the early 1990s..
@@kailashpatel1706 It's all baking cakes and renovating your house now ............
It's incredible the brilliant work made by those detectives.
Thanks for sharing this. My wife played one of the witnesses in the line up scene near the end.
Neat!
Did she, how did she get that job mate ?
I can't tell you how horrifying it was for happened to Alison Day when watching her reconstruction, God Almighty, I really wished she had declined to go out that fateful night 😢
That's great to see a loved one on tv for something positive. Stay safe and be careful.
The actor playing the killer looked chillingly like the actual killer.
It was easy to suspend belief that you were watching the real villain in this.
Who else finds the sinister music of Crimewatch File even more chilling than the regular programme? 😧
I agree with you.It has an ominous dread about it .
So heartbreaking those women and girls were so brave RIP Ann Alison and Maartie my heartfelt condolences go to your families and friends Xxx
Alison was adopted, so had already been rejected by her mother. Goes to a loving home, and these jerks kill her. Total shame.
It wouldn't be at all surprising if David Mulcahey sat at home watching this very programme, thinking he had got away with murder.
Well, he did for an awful long time.
The scene with the piece of string across the pathway makes me feel very uneasy every time I think about it
Her mother told her to keep to the main road. I always avoid grassy areas or lonely streets. Dawn Ashworth was another one who was killed walking through a field for a short cut.
RIP, alison day, martea tamboezer and anne lock.
Lee Dummett . Absolutely... so many young lives destroyed, as well as the wider ripples; parents, grandparents, siblings, friends. Heartbreaking and tragic in equal measure, isn’t it?! 😢💐🌈
Watching this I realised how fragile life is.
Vague would be a more appropriate word i reckon.
......and how cruel and evil people can be!
mulcahy was enjoying his freedom while duffy was locked up. he kept his mouth shut for 10 years. glad they got him in the end.
@Allan I'm pretty certain a married man with a child.
police suspected that duffy had not acted alone but lacked hard evidence and duffy shut up shop until 1999 when he started singing to the police
@@charlottedeacon6031 I think David had four kids.
The good ole days of actual factual reporting.
Yet never solved the dando case
@@itsme1585sadly you are spot on
Love how they’d say ‘don’t have nightmares’ at the end of the monthly show. After scaring the shit out of everyone ... great advice.
Sadly I remember these murders.
Must admit as a 11 year old id go to bed once a month shittin my pants after he would say that and that drum and music started!
@@smiffy113 haha yeah me too on that!! I’d turn over to sleep replaying the carnage of the photofits & re-enactments.
@@leeaheron1 😂😂😂😂
These brutal murders will always be remembered.
Thanks for all the comments. I have nine in all of which four are already on here: 1. Bronwen Nixon 2. Stephanie Slater/Julie Dart 3. Operation Osprey (already on youtube) 4. Shirley Banks (already on youtube) 5. A party to murder - Karen Price (already on youtube) 6. Operation Trigger 7. Police officer John Speed (already on youtube) 8. Supergrass 9. Railway murders. I will hopefully upload them over the next few nights. Have got the first two on my PC just need uploading to youtube. Has taken me since August but I'm finally getting towards the end now!
I don't want these uploads to end, though... :(
Hi please could you put crimewatch file the red connection on I can’t find it anywhere I think it was from 1990 thank you
@@aamo822 Hi A Amo, have just uploaded it.
Thanks very much😀
Great upload any one got the Terrance Clifton file killed 2 motor mechanic's in there garage in morcombe
Excellently made stuff from the BBC - quietly and efficiently done with brilliant editing. Compare and contrast with the rubbish pumped out today especially in the American made crime docs. However, I do have to add that 'Thin blue line' was American and it is one of the most compelling crime documentaries ever made.
“A river cuts through rock, not because of its power, but because of its persistence.”
To many cooks spoil the broth.
A rolling stone gathers no moss.....
A stich in time, saves nine .......
Just nearing the end of Simon Farquhar's book The Railway Murders, written by the son of one of the investigating officers in this case. What struck me was just how dismal pockets of London were at the time, something I always suspected but never fortunately knew firsthand - until, that is, a mate of mine attended a university in East London in the mid 1990s. Even then, Hackney was very grim and felt intimidating. The area around Dalston Junction railway station I found particularly menacing, but the general ambience of the place was frightening all over. It was disconcerting to have to walk in a group to a pub even in broad daylight, and then have to get a taxi back at closing time in spite of the short distance. Certain sides of the road my mate informed me were off limits, which I found totally bizarre ( this was usually because rough sleepers were common in large shop doorways on certain sides, but not others ). People were surly and would make no effort to move out of your way on the pavements. To make matters even worse, my mate's digs were horrible. He lived above a launderette and the landlord refused to centrally heat the flat since he claimed the steam and warmth generated downstairs was sufficient ! It wasn't. The only warmth came from a small bar heater in the living room. The water in the loo would often freeze over, meaning having to break it like an Eskimo to shit, and most meals consisted of toasted sandwiches from a Breville kept in the living room. It must have been hell, so no surprise the residents were all confirmed pot heads.
Going back just a couple of years after, the contrast was marked. Neighbouring Islington having been completely gentrified, there was now an overspill of the wealthy buying up property in Hackney, so the vagrants were cleared out and the centre spruced up. The atmosphere was the polar opposite to what it had been previously. Just goes to show what money can do. Notting Hill was always a shit hole in the 80s, but look at it now.
These crimes were horrific enough, but set against the background of London at that time just makes them all the more chilling.
Thanks for that grim description I also thought the grim setting was chilling the empty train station the grim place her boyfriend worked and all the dark little pockets and dark paths made it chilling use use of the word menacing is totally right . i even had chills watching to be there would have been really creepy .
I grew up and went to school in East London. There were some good people and some bad. The Gooduns would be there for you and you for them, if the shit hit the fan. So like everywhere, it had its good points...
Ryan Garritty Notting Hill is still a shit hole. 30 years on from these crimes and we cannot move for monitoring, surveillance and CCTV and yet the murder and rape rates are soaring in the capital city. Go figure.
INUits.old footage a good sand blast RID centuries of grime
The image of having to smash ice in the crapper so you can take a dump is one that will always make me chuckle
I believe I have always picked up my girlfriend at the train station if the night has fallen. Please go to pick up your loved ones and make sure to be there when a lady is coming off the train at night. I hope the animal who did this is dead or in prison for life. POS!
Very wise advice Xx
@Melanin Queen yes...people should just volunteer to go out at night and make sure everyone gets home safe!! the only reason this never happened to me is luck and a few good people who made sure I got home safe. God what evil there is in this world!
I would always make sure I was with a love one especially at night.
Well said.
Please Please Never Take The Shortcut.
Sean Arberry is the actor portraying John Duffy. Great performance.
I have alot of respect to the police officer who had to explain in detail what had happened to there daughters that takes a special kind of person 👍
It's unusual for serial killers to operate together...
These two found each other...
and my god what a devastating combination.
Two reprobates together , it happens .
what did I miss something'? it was only one Duffy.. maybe I dose.off
OSTAP BENDER CND there were 2 men. The other killer/rapist is David Mulcahy who is inside now thanks to his old school friend John Duffy informing on him. Pair of bastards.
Thanks dude
I did dose off
3 months later
I swing back to saved vid
Thank you
OSTAP BENDER CND no worries mate. At the time of this Crime Watch the media thought it was just one killer but apparently the old bill suspected there were 2 men. These 2 cowardly maggots raped and killed 3 young women who should be alive today. I think it was around 13 years or so after Duffy was put away, he decided to inform on his best mate and he went down as well, despite protesting his innocence. I don’t know how these fuckers sleep at night.
I have great respect for the forensic scientists, coroners etc involved in investigating these horrific crimes
Maartje's mother told her to ride to the shop the long way round. Not to ride the shortcut on the railway footpath. Unfortunately she didn't heed that advice. Even though she should have been able to ride her bike whatever route she wanted to, without the fear of being attacked, raped or murdered. Disgusting scum like Duffy and Mulcahay meant she shouldn't have. RIP to the poor women. As for the 2 pieces of crap who carried out the sickening crimes, hopefully they were dealt with in prison. Many times........
Killers should NEVER be released
Brilliant! Thanks for all your hard work upping these. Look forward to watching this one. Fascinating case.
Redcard74 u r spoiling us with the crime watch files. I’ve been waiting for these
You're a legend! Thank you!
9:02 - that would later be used for the beginning of the 90-92 CW intro
😱 *Don't have nightmares... do sleep well. Easier said than done after watching Crimewatch UK at MIDNIGHT!* 😮
John Duffy did have a partner called David Mulcahy he got arrested and charged many years after due to Duffy being upset that his friend was free.
They used fo go out stalking looking for prey listening to MK Thriller
@Marten Dekker what else did he expect? Any man who visited, wrote to or sent money to Duffy would come under intense police scrutiny.
no excuse
CONJUGAL VISIT FOR RUFF PUFFY LOVE..
STARING.CONTEST
@Marten Dekker it wasnt coz he was free i dont think, would have shopped him in much ealier if that was the case
he grassed his bf up because he was angry that he never came too visit him and he was getting on with his life and family
I used to love crimewatch uk as a kid .. Jill Dando was my favourite.. nick Ross was great also .. the reconstructions were amazing back then
How can you mention crimewatch and not say sue cook
The girls must have been terrified : (
you Think
Duffy and Mulcahay will never be released from prison. Duffy got a whole life tariff and later Mulcahay minimum of 30 years but its not expected neither will ever be released.
These officers that have to deal with dead in horrific crimes are a special breed of people. I could never do it!
That lovely 1980s acting reaching for the naturalistic for reconstructions verging on the flat which wasn't still quite vogue at this point despite The Bill. Nowadays, horrible cases like this would have the stuffing over-dramatized out of them, drowned by music and a blizzard of edit cuts.
and the 'crying without tears' interviews that make me question if it isn't just a load of fake news anyway! the thing is british tv has been invaded by the americans and they think we are all gullible and thick and have disney confused with reality.
Thank you for uploading this. Excellent reporting of the facts done without sensationalism. I was struck by that one call one guy made saying his son had confessed to the Anne Lock murder simply because he wanted to get him out of the house. The police had to use up valuable time and resources following that up even though they knew she hadn't been thrown from a train like he'd described. I hope the man was prosecuted for wasting police time. In addition, it must be pretty tough being one of the actors who played the assailants, am sure more than a few people mistakenly thought they were seeing criminals in the days following the original broadcast.
A man lied to police about his son admitting to all of these horrific crimes just so he could get him out of his house!? Wow! I'm guessing he never gets a "No 1 Dad" mug on Father's Day! 😂
Yep. People are idiots.
Should have been heavily fined or jailed for wasting police time.
Should be given a bill for wasting police time
Noones Dad.
Wow. The dad must have been desperate to do such a thing. Lol 😂
Thanks for all the nightmares as a child crimewatch
That horrible cold stare, very chilling
Remember this. His partner in crime was convicted years later.
Yup, David Mucalhy who might be the 'friend' at the end of this video
Mulcahy was caught in 1999 and given 258 years in Nov 2000
@@dazauto1400 wait, 258 years...!?
@@elliott4106 259
It’s weird how Mulchahy and Duffy chose random stations for victims.Alison in Hackney Wick, Maartja in Surrey and Ann in Brookmans Park, Hertfordshire.
None of these places have any pattern as such
Not random all by railways
Wonderfully done documentary style crime video, thank you!! I definitely enjoyed it and learned more about the UK and the wonderful British Police ❤
Crimewatch was a very useful programme , yet the BBC cancelled it.
The BBC cancelled it after 33 years saying it's run its course..too many trails going cold with viewers apparently and said they'd show more of the sister show during the day.. crimewatch roadshow.
Getting to close to jimmy Saville and friends in high places.. Still not sure why and how jill dando was killed..
@@hayleydryden8358 Chemtrails love.
Because everyone kept having nightmares
@@hayleydryden8358 Bill Gates and 5G?
Very sad these poor women and families.
So much better than real crime programmes nowadays.
I ended up here after listening to the 8-part story on these crimes by The True Crime Enthusiast Podcast. The crimes started before I was born, with Duffy being jailed not long after I was born, so I wasn't that well aware of them before hearing the stories on the podcast. Some of the investigation techniques used in this case are so fascinating.
It so happens I now work with a guy called John Duffy. This colleague tells me he got some real stick back in the 80s when John Francis Duffy was caught and jailed 😂.
True professionals, these policemen. How i wish in South Africa, we could have this calibre of law enforcement. We have so many murders here.
SA was British once why haven't you got the legacy at least?
@@IanP1963 Say that to the ANC...
@@iansoutryer3189 It is an historical fact and I would anyway dude - they can't run a piss up in a brewery in SA - I have a friend out there and she is always despairing how the ANC Govt runs things !!!!
@@IanP1963 America was British once. Look at the crime there!
Stop kicking whites out of South Africa then
Evil walks this earth .. it’s name.. mankind . Rest in peace poor girls so so sorry x
what are you trying to say?
@@valuetraveler2026 I thought I was clear - mankind ( this includes women too ) can be truly evil .. whose only aim In this world is to cause pain and suffering and destruction.
That was a really good documentary Thanks for the upload🙂
News paper man for exposing undercover operation should be jailed
Redcard 74 i love thanks for jan 1993 upload keep them coming mate im crimewatch uks biggest fan
How big are you?
Bravo to the investigators.
20:00 What kind of father calls the police to tell them his son confessed to a rape and murder only to find out the father wants the son out of the house? Imagine the sense of shock and betrayal the poor son felt? If I were the son, I'd never speak to the father again. I'm pretty sure it's a crime to falsely report that someone confessed when they didn't. Horrible man.
It's Christmas come early today with all these lovely Crimewatch and now Crimewatch File treats.
Excellent presentation. Ty.
Seems to be a case where "life should mean life."
30 years - release date 2018 :/
Redcard! What a hero you are. Look forward to more Crimewatch Files ! (Even though they give me the creeps ha)
Great watch. Presumably Mulcahy hadn't been convicted at this point. Is that his version of events at the end I wonder? A book about the Railways Murders was released a couple of years ago. It's called A Dangerous Place, was written by the Chief Investigators son and is one of the best books I've ever read.
I was thinking the same thing, but this appeared to be 1988. DNA was not in full use and Mulcahy only went to jail in 1999. Duffy should have shopped him sooner.
I used to work near one of the murder scenes back in early 2000s,one of my colleagues met Duffy-said he was a creepy chap.
creepy indeed
eyes of dead soul
Creepy chap,fuck me..bit of an understatement..
"He had no serious charges to his name, except a rather serious assault charge on his wife...that he was on bail for at the time.." DAFUQ!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄
Yeah, but that was his wife so it doesn’t count (according to cop logic) 🙄
@@dissonantdreams Amen! Because beating your wife is a silly little nothing apparently... 🤔
Ooh Redcard74 you are spoiling us! Cest magnifique! 😜
agic.
I remember when mulcahy was identified in the 90s alot of work went into that...sad case this one
London was quite grimy in the e1980s early 90s. No intercom you could just walk through blocks. It was dangerous.
jim brown... and yet, here we are 30 years later, monitored and surveyed to within an inch of our lives, CCTV everywhere, GPS monitoring etc etc and London is more dangerous than ever. At least back in 1988 the police chiefs worked on solving the crimes, not like the idiot politically correct, common purpose trained idiots running the show these days.
@@kward8996 I agree totally. But I grew up in the 80s and 90s and London did have a more real feel to it. But you are totally right
Quite right, fully agree, we now live in a synthetic era with no realism anymore.
K Ward here here they were the best of years for me
@@kward8996 I totally agree.
Excellent! Absolutely riveting! Just the facts ma’m !
Thank you for the upload.
Another man, David Mulcahy, was eventually tried and convicted for his part in these rapes and murders. Although his conviction, based upon Duffy's evidence against him, was ten years after Duffy's own conviction, the police always suspected there were two offenders but that isn't touched upon at all in this documentary.
Then make your own documentary!!!
You may just be pointing that part of the story out for those who don't. So I will add, that it only focuses on him Because this particular documentary series was made around the time of the him being charged and convicted.
Thank you for the programme. I really appreciate these old / vintage crime programmes being placed on YT but I was wondering if the channel could increase the audio volume - my ears are very old and the subtitles often bear no resemblance to what is being said.
I love Crimewatch File, thanks! Got anymore?
Why don't the BBC do a Crimewatch series on the going ons at the BBC?
Mulcahy reappeared on Tv in 1987 Rollerskating for charity in a show called Open space :Southenders
Great documentary.
Surely theres an easier way to get your son out the house ?
John Duffy was also The Copthall Sports Centre rapist that was reconstructed in the December 1985 episode of Crimewatch. Mulcahy also appeared on Blue Peter in March 1986!
Duffy raped on his own but Mulcahey didn't.
the blue peter clip is on youtube
@@noircluck Can't find it, just an article about skating. What is it saved under?
@@treasurehunteruk9718 Blue Peter 1986 review a quick clip of Mulcahy helping Simon Groom after he fell over is in it.
@@noircluck Someone on here said the clip is on You Tube, so I tried to find it.
I remember that Crimewatch episode when the Copthall sports centre rape was featured and they had a photofit of the dog Duffy had!! I’m surprised that they didn’t show the photofit of the dog on this programme!!
I really wish they did a follow-up on this after they arrested David Mulcahy as the 2nd perpetrator in these murders, back in 1999.
There was a very unfortunate comment made by Nick Ross in the original Crimewatch programme about the murder of the Dutch girl I think, "that was good of the guard". Ouch. That guard had let Duffy out of the area by stopping the train he caught as he had actually missed it 🤦♀️
I remember that episode as well. Not the best thing to say!!
She was only a young girl :(
exceptional. I hope the guy playing Duffy got plenty work; he stands out
Sean Arberry was the actor. He went on to have roles in London's Burning and The Bill
@@congydave thank you! awesome--I luv UK programming but don't watch enough (well--any drama) to know your guys' actors
A good concise video.!
Why would a newspaper reveal a surveillance operation to catch a serious criminal? Is that a crime? It should be.
Watching crimewatch in the mid to late 80s made me want to be a Police Officer bu t it scared me so much, Crimewatch should now be done online if the bbc can’t be bothered I’m sure there are plenty of police forces who need help
That forensic lady her voice is so soothing she could have been the speaking clock
I noticed it too. Great voice-actor or newsreader material.
11:40 Anne Davies
Nice.undies
Alexa
Thanks Redcard you gem! 💎
How are they able to get hold of such strikingly similar looking actors for Crimewatch? I literally went back and forth trying to find differences in the actor and Duffy’s features.
Yes, it's an uncanny resemblance. I bet the actor himself found it quite an unsettling job!
Stewart Spaull Yeah but he did a pretty convincing job as a psychopath killer with those dead stares he gave the copper during questioning.
The actors on the monthly programme reconstructions are usually spot on. Really like the original people.
Have you reached the end of your Crimewatch UK uploads now Redcard?
I miss the time when TV wasn't made for fng rtrds. I hope it will come back soon.
I miss the old trains
How could the police or witnesses or forensics not tell for 13 years that 2 people done it?
@Ollie Perry victims where raped by both men so surely they must have had the evidence
No forensic evidence against Mulcahy until 1999. A DNA sample taken linked Mulcahy to a rape in 1984 where Duffys DNA was on the victims clothing. Also Duffy confessed in 1997 that Mulcahy was the other man.
It can't get better than burden of proof but here we go.
If the life of a loved one comes to an end in crimes like this how can you deal with that and get on with your life?
I might be politically left wing but when it comes to crimes like this their should be a captial punishment clause for cases like this.
I don't know. It must be close to impossible. I get the impression that families who forgive the killer do best, though I find it hard to imagine how they manage it.
So, he got 30 years? Does that mean he's out now??
That seems a very light sentence. I would have expected life without parole.
@Whoever Run by reprobates .
Roedy Green it was 30 years minimum, he’s still in prison and unlikely to ever be released
Jailed for ONLY 30years!!! What a shame for the justice system...Lowlifes like that should be locked away for life!!!!
Minimum of 30 years was a recommendation. In fact after mulcahey was caught Duffy was also given a further sentence. This programme was obviously made before his partner was caught
Susan Naudé They will be left inside parole will never let men if you can even call them that,like that out
"They all linked their computers"... Wow! Back in the 80's that must have been one hell of a serial data cable! XD
Fantastic police work. They seemed to really care about the victims . Poor girls were so badly treated .
Good bit of Police work, Respect Gentlemen 👊😎👊