Lt Shames enlisted as a Private and was promoted to Sergeant within a few years. After jumping into Normandy, he received a battlefield commission to become a Lieutenant. In the Battle of Foy, he and his platoon sergeant took out a German tank with a bazooka. After WW2, he stayed in the Army Reserves and retired a Colonel. Despite his brief portrayal in Band of Brothers (BoB) as someone who "likes to yell too much", I would like to believe he was a reasonably competent leader and officer despite the observation that he was a bit of a peacock. It is also worth noting that 3rd Platoon of Easy Company had the least casualties/fatalities whilst under the command of Lt Shames.
In the show, Shames came across as an insecure glory seeker who only cared about his own career and taking the stress of war out on everybody. It's one thing if he's yelling constantly at the junior enlisted, but if he's yelling at his NCOs like that? Red flag, everybody.
@@darkwarriormaster9644 Red flag? Maybe the NCO's in Shames' platoon needed their butts chewed. Why is there a perception that there are both good and bad officers but every NCO is good and always better than his officers? During my 3 years of active duty, I liked all my officers but one. I liked 2 NCO's and absolutely hated 4 of them. They abused their rank to gain privilege for themselves. You take men one and a time and let them earn respect as they merit it. No man is good or bad simply because of the insignia on his uniform.
Fun fact: when Easy Company seized the Eagle's Nest, Shames found a bottle of cognac meant for Hitler's use only. He took it back with him and used it to toast his son's bar mitzvah.
Shames didn't jump with Easy Company. He was I Company's 1st Sgt and received a Battlefield Commission on June 12th and moved to Easy to command Third Platoon.
That LT we saw screaming at 0:23 is still alive as of April 21st, 2020. His name is Edward Shames Edit: LT Shames has unfortunately passed away December 3rd, 2021. May God bless these heroes for all there sacrifice and discomfort they went through in the war ❤️🇺🇲
Also in contrast to what the miniseries implies, he was actually considered a good officer though he did yell a lot. In fact his platoon lost fewer men than any platoon in the entire division.
I've seen the Shames interviews, he is extremely bitter about his portrayal in BOB and shows extreme resentment towards the other men of Easy. With all the other officers now gone they really cannot defend themselves while he mouths off.
Winters: "He's just another one of those arrogant rich jerks from Yale" Nixon: "Oh god, not another one of those" I guess most watchers missed the joke, Captain Nixon himself attended Yale for two years before joining the army
Kind of ironic that out of all the characters, the one officer that got barely any attention is the only one that is still alive as of the 2020’s. God Bless Edward Shames. EDIT: Apparently PFC Bradford Freeman is still alive and was a Toccoa man, but was only seen in the background as far as I know. EDIT 2: Sadly as of writing this, he has joined the rest of his Band of Brothers in the skies, reunited with them all, some he hasn't seen in almost 80 years. RIP Edward Shames, 1922 - 2021.
For those of you wondering, it’s now believed that Lt. Peacock may have been severely colorblind rendering him “4F” or “unserviceable” in the military, but he was able to BS his way through the entry tests until he got his commission. It would certainly explain his notoriously awful land nav skills (I can’t judge, I’ve always hated land nav Lmao) and why he asked Sgt Lipton to notify him of the jump lights before they jumped in Market Garden.
Peacock was sadly killed alongside his mother in a car accident in 1948. If I remember right he was the first member of Easy company to die after the war.
Yup, Lt Jones, the one Colin Hanks plays who joins Easy very late in the war, sadly passed away as a Captain after an operation for injuries from a car accident in Germany in 1947.
there were hints in an earlier episode that he was color blind and hid it as he can't tell when the green light in the plane lights up and asked another soldier to tap him on the shoulder when it's time to jump.
Just Heard The Sad News, Folks. Colonel Edward Shames, The Last Surviving Member Of Easy Company, Passed Away At The Age Of 99. The Last Of The " Band Of Brothers " Has Passed. Rest In Peace, Colonel Shames. Rest In Peace, Richard Winters, Lewis Nixon, Buck Compton, And All Of The Other Honored Members Of Easy Company. Thank You, For Your Service. Thank You, For Your Sacrifice. We Will Always Be Indebted To You And All Of " The Greatest Generation " Who Won The Second World War.
Nah Shames was just the last living officer (Lieutenant) of Easy Company… PFC Bradford Freeman is still alive as of December 29, 2021 making him the only living member of Easy Company. May he live a long and healthy life and the other Band of Brothers RIP🕊🕊🕊
Fun fact: The actor for Shames continues to play various military roles in movies and video games, most recently as the US Commander for Battlefield 2042. He’s also played Thomas the Tank Engine for the last decade.
Yes, Peacock was not suited for combat. Like how Sobel was better as a trainer than a combat leader, Peacock probably had talents that were better suited for in the rear. I read online that he was a big by-the-book officer, so maybe administration. Plus, he cared about the men too much to be hated. And according to Winters, he definitely wasn't lazy.
In the words of Winters: “God bless him, no one tries harder…but I’m sure as hell not making him company CO when I don’t want him as a platoon leader.”
As winter's said, it's not like they could replace dyke but was always curious when winter's said he wanted easy to have one experienced platoon leader. How come Randleman was never considered to replace Compton? The precious episodes showed he was a good squad leader. Maybe cause of hindsight, but bull seemed like a good candidate to take over
I think, from reading the book and watching the series, Winters was thinking that Buck was already showing signs of 'fatigue' at that time and was too close to his men to be able to command the company effectively, as you see in the opening episode before the D-Day jump when Winters talks to him about it.
Dike got two bronze stars, I wonder whether this depiction of him is really fair. One of the Bronze star was for rescuing three wounded soldiers of his company while under intense enemy fire.
Its not fair, he was shot in the battle of Foy and relieved. Lipton and Winters had every reason to deflect the blame of heavy casualties onto Dike in their retelling to scapegoat him, but it was Winter's plan to attack a Panzergrenadier unit with light infantry and mortars
With all due respect to those whose accounts were used for the basis of the HBO Series...Ed Shames, Sobel, Dike...the portrayal of these men who can't defend themselves and to have their service records and conduct and character besmirched by a movie??? Then the hybrid Ambrose novel and interpretation of events to fit a dramatic film production...even Wild Bill said he did not get any tangible windfall from his sacrifice??? sad...Cease the war- increase the peace...buzzards and carrion crows picking their bones...
@@MrHalohunter24 How many people had heard of him or knew that he disagreed with his portrayal until now that he's the last living member of the company? He's still alive to defend himself but he didn't have a platform to do so until now and certainly not one as big as HBO.
@@MrHalohunter24 True, But Sobel and Dike are not and Band of Brothers misrepresents them horribly. For instance, Dike is portrayed, in this clip no less, as an arrogant college boy. However, prior to taking command of Easy Company, Dike was award two Bronze Stars for acts of heroism. The first was when he coordinated and lead scattered units in Holland to secure vital supply chains against far superior and repeated German attacks. The second was not long before, in Bastonge, when he exposed himself to enemy fire to save 3 wounded men. Another man from Dog Company even contradicts Sargent Lipton's claim that Dike fell apart due to nerves in the final assault, stating that Dike went into shock due to being shot in the shoulder and losing blood. Dike was not the best man, but he was not just some arrogant college boy, and certainly wasn't a coward.
@@iliadnetfear2586 Hollywood does this all the time. Have you ever seen Cinderella Man? They portrayed the main antagonist boxer Max Baer as some ruthless evil cynical rude asshole, when in reality, the real Max Baer had ptsd and overwhelming guilt over the men who died in the ring and would donate his prize to their families. In any case, I dont think Shames was very bothered by this representation, it probably just amused him
Peacock was not suited for combat. Like how Sobel was better as a trainer than a combat leader, Peacock probably had talents that were better suited for in the rear. I read online that he was a big by-the-book officer, so maybe administration. Plus, he cared about the men too much to be hated. And according to Winters, he definitely wasn't lazy. In the show, Shames came across as an insecure glory seeker who only cared about his own career. It's one thing if he's yelling constantly at the junior enlisted, but if he's yelling at his NCOs like that? Red flag, everybody. Edward Shames should have gotten more screen time twenty years ago. He enlisted at the age of twenty in 1942 as a private. Became a paratrooper. Jumped into Normandy on D-Day and survived. Became the first NCO in the Third Battalion to receive a battlefield commission to 2nd Lieutenant. Fought in and survived the Battle of the Bulge. Saw concentration camps in Germany (he's Jewish, so imagine how he felt at the time). Stayed in the reserves for nearly thirty after the war, during that time, getting married and raising a family. Retired as a full-bird colonel. He's still alive and now a widower with children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. Really the only way he would be more impressive is if he enlisted at seventeen or eighteen and became a general before retiring. If he actually did yell a lot, then he was probably still thinking like an NCO and developing PTSD. As of today (two weeks after his 99th birthday), he is one of the only two members of Easy Company, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division still alive and the only officer still alive; the other one is Private First Class Bradford Freeman who is the only enlisted man still alive at age 96.
@@imtryinghere1 I think it was more that Ambrose became enamoured with the Winters Story and the clique around him i.e. Lipton, Malarky, Guarnere and Ranney. They were the ones Ambrose interviewed and formed relationships with. And that was the story he wrote - at the expense of other voices/memories. None of the NCO's listed there served in 3rd Platoon under Shames. However, we do know that Forrest Guth and Popeye Wynn did and both of them said Shames was the best Officer they served under. Wouldn't send his men out to do anything he wouldn't do himself. He was strict and by the book. As an ex-NCO he knew where corners would be cut by enlisted men. There is also the fact that Shames absolutely despised Lewis Nixon. Called him a 'hopeless fall down drunk'. Not a great way to have a relationship with your Company and then Battalion Commander when you say that about his best friend ... especially when you are an 'outsider'. Although he did Toccoa and Jump School at the same time as Easy Company, he was in fact the 1st Sgt of I Company (3rd Battalion, 506th PI Reg) when they jumped on June 6th. Shames received a Battlefield Commission a week or two after D-Day and was sent to Easy Company (because they had that rule that said you couldn't serve in the same unit as an Officer if you received the Battlefield Commission). Shames didn't take over 3rd platoon till after Market Garden. So he was an 'Outsider' to Easy Company, despite being a Toccoa Man.
I loved the show but rarely laughed because it wasn't a comedy. But, Shames made me laugh so hard 😄 If they replaced Dike with Shames, it would have been fun.
The contrast between Joseph May's portrayal of Shames and his portrayal of Andy Button in Episodes shows some impressive range as an actor. It's a shame (sorry) that they didn't make him more of a character in this series, as he was an interesting story (as others have said). I think this is the only episode he appears in, and in most of his other scenes he is basically an extra.
He's an officer in the clip, a platoon leader. They're debating which of the three platoon leaders would make the best company executive officer. Shames received a battlefield commission to Second Lieutenant in Normandy as a Sergeant, this takes place the winter after that.
I still don't understand why they can't find a single option to replace Dike? What about Jack E. Foley? He seems decent from limit time on the show. While Dike lost himself, Foley seems handle very well of 1st platoon while under heavy enemy fire from Foy. Plus I remember Guarnere speak highly of Foley. Unpopular opinion, Foley could be a decent choice, but for some reason, Winters back then and the director of BoB both somehow decide not to bring Foley up at that point during conversation. Why? Bc it doesn't make the situation that desperate. So instead, they just say "Buck is the only choice...but I want Easy company has at least one experienced platoon leader, not that it matters anyway, bc I can't get rid of Dike". Honestly, this part is a head nodding when I watch first couple of times, but after rewatch so many times, this replacing dike conversation just doesn't make sense.
I believe the reason Lt. Foley wasn't considered was because he didn't have much combat experience before Foy, he only became leader of 1st Platoon during Batstone. Prior to Bastone, Welsh was the leader of 1st platoon.
Dike didn't 'lose himself', contrary eye witness accounts to Sargent Lipton's claim say thay Dike went into shock due to loss of blood when he was shot in the shoulder. The show neglects to mention Dike had a decorated record before leading Dog Company. Receiving 2 Bronze Stars for lead ad-hoc, mangled units in Holland during Market Garden to secure vital supply chains and the second in Bastonge when he saved 3 wounded men while under German small arms fire.
Dike was a great character and how the story played out was great. Sadly, it was horribly exaggerated and inaccurate to the real man. Why they did this, I will never know. Just like how they lied about Blythe. Every word of the text saying "he died" was BS. Makes you question what other things they might have gotten wrong AND ON PURPOSE.
Sound only came about in the what... late 1920s but that wasn't even talking yet just sound and music. You gonna tell me from 1930s to 1944-1945 yelling military commanders were so common in the movies that one of Easy companies leaders was just life that? That is a modern reference thrown in to a WW2 memoirs series.
This clip doesn't have anything to do with NCOs, Mr. Never Served. The Lord doesn't make NCOs by the way, they make themselves and reach up and grab the title. Sincerely, a former U.S. Army infantry Corporal.
Lt Shames enlisted as a Private and was promoted to Sergeant within a few years. After jumping into Normandy, he received a battlefield commission to become a Lieutenant. In the Battle of Foy, he and his platoon sergeant took out a German tank with a bazooka. After WW2, he stayed in the Army Reserves and retired a Colonel. Despite his brief portrayal in Band of Brothers (BoB) as someone who "likes to yell too much", I would like to believe he was a reasonably competent leader and officer despite the observation that he was a bit of a peacock. It is also worth noting that 3rd Platoon of Easy Company had the least casualties/fatalities whilst under the command of Lt Shames.
He’s also the last living member of easy company
In the show, Shames came across as an insecure glory seeker who only cared about his own career and taking the stress of war out on everybody. It's one thing if he's yelling constantly at the junior enlisted, but if he's yelling at his NCOs like that? Red flag, everybody.
@@darkwarriormaster9644 Thats the shows and books view on him . Which must be taken at face value
@@hannahdyson7129 Obviously, he was a lot complicated in real life.
@@darkwarriormaster9644 Red flag? Maybe the NCO's in Shames' platoon needed their butts chewed. Why is there a perception that there are both good and bad officers but every NCO is good and always better than his officers? During my 3 years of active duty, I liked all my officers but one. I liked 2 NCO's and absolutely hated 4 of them. They abused their rank to gain privilege for themselves. You take men one and a time and let them earn respect as they merit it. No man is good or bad simply because of the insignia on his uniform.
Fun fact: when Easy Company seized the Eagle's Nest, Shames found a bottle of cognac meant for Hitler's use only. He took it back with him and used it to toast his son's bar mitzvah.
thats awesome
Mazel Tov!!!
Hitler didn't drink or smoke.
@@kulio1214 This. As much as I love that story, this comment.
That's why I drink AND smoke. If I didn't I'd be literally Hitler.
RIP Ed Shames he was with Easy Company from D-Day all the way to the eagle's nest.
men like him were true heroes
Shames didn't jump with Easy Company. He was I Company's 1st Sgt and received a Battlefield Commission on June 12th and moved to Easy to command Third Platoon.
The answer to his question was a Lieutenant in nearby Dog Company.
@@A.Salgado7 Foxhole Norman you mean.
So Winters talked Col.Sinks of transferring Spiers dog to E company
@@A.Salgado7 "You organize things here and I'll gonna go for...hehelp"
@@joemckim1183 Spiers
Speirs!!
That LT we saw screaming at 0:23 is still alive as of April 21st, 2020. His name is Edward Shames
Edit: LT Shames has unfortunately passed away December 3rd, 2021. May God bless these heroes for all there sacrifice and discomfort they went through in the war ❤️🇺🇲
WWII in color from netflix? :P
Also in contrast to what the miniseries implies, he was actually considered a good officer though he did yell a lot. In fact his platoon lost fewer men than any platoon in the entire division.
No way! Crazy! I wonder what age he is?
I've seen the Shames interviews, he is extremely bitter about his portrayal in BOB and shows extreme resentment towards the other men of Easy. With all the other officers now gone they really cannot defend themselves while he mouths off.
@@bazking What, like is he literally badmouthing his fellow soldiers of E? But why? :/
Winters: "He's just another one of those arrogant rich jerks from Yale"
Nixon: "Oh god, not another one of those"
I guess most watchers missed the joke, Captain Nixon himself attended Yale for two years before joining the army
Sorry, but it's clear from his tone and expression he falls into that category 😆
hahahha i love this jab of winters to nixon esp since they are best buddies till the end.
So did the actor who played him, Ron Livingston.
I don’t think very many people if anyone missed that. It’s very deliberate
Love the little fast camera movement at 0:29 like they’re in combat
Kind of ironic that out of all the characters, the one officer that got barely any attention is the only one that is still alive as of the 2020’s.
God Bless Edward Shames.
EDIT: Apparently PFC Bradford Freeman is still alive and was a Toccoa man, but was only seen in the background as far as I know.
EDIT 2: Sadly as of writing this, he has joined the rest of his Band of Brothers in the skies, reunited with them all, some he hasn't seen in almost 80 years.
RIP Edward Shames, 1922 - 2021.
For those of you wondering, it’s now believed that Lt. Peacock may have been severely colorblind rendering him “4F” or “unserviceable” in the military, but he was able to BS his way through the entry tests until he got his commission. It would certainly explain his notoriously awful land nav skills (I can’t judge, I’ve always hated land nav Lmao) and why he asked Sgt Lipton to notify him of the jump lights before they jumped in Market Garden.
Excellent observation!
Peacock was sadly killed alongside his mother in a car accident in 1948. If I remember right he was the first member of Easy company to die after the war.
I think it was that janovech kid
@@jehuirasales3588 Janovec died before V-J Day?
@@juansantos-lq2kz yup
Nah it was janovech then unfortunately Lieutenant Jones
Yup, Lt Jones, the one Colin Hanks plays who joins Easy very late in the war, sadly passed away as a Captain after an operation for injuries from a car accident in Germany in 1947.
I liked Lt Peacock ..... He was hardworking and good with his men. Poor sod spent most of his time looking for Dike !
Peacock's map reading reminded me of Sobel's... incompetence up the wazoo.
They say he was a really nice guy, though.
He was but as winters said he just isn't cut out for the job
there were hints in an earlier episode that he was color blind and hid it as he can't tell when the green light in the plane lights up and asked another soldier to tap him on the shoulder when it's time to jump.
0:22 seconds is iconic 😂
This cut scene directly to Shames made me laugh really hard the first time watching this show.
RIP Shouty. Last of Easy Company.
Bradford Freeman was the last of Easy. Shames was the last officer.
Just Heard The Sad News, Folks. Colonel Edward Shames, The Last Surviving Member Of Easy Company, Passed Away At The Age Of 99. The Last Of The " Band Of Brothers " Has Passed. Rest In Peace, Colonel Shames. Rest In Peace, Richard Winters, Lewis Nixon, Buck Compton, And All Of The Other Honored Members Of Easy Company. Thank You, For Your Service. Thank You, For Your Sacrifice. We Will Always Be Indebted To You And All Of
" The Greatest Generation " Who Won The Second World War.
Nah Shames was just the last living officer (Lieutenant) of Easy Company… PFC Bradford Freeman is still alive as of December 29, 2021 making him the only living member of Easy Company. May he live a long and healthy life and the other Band of Brothers RIP🕊🕊🕊
he's gone too @@tommysalami2788
Why are you using caps?
RIP Edward Shames❤️
I love Winters laugh at Nix's response over the "rich, arrogant jerk from Yale" as Nix himself was a Yale man.
Fun fact: The actor for Shames continues to play various military roles in movies and video games, most recently as the US Commander for Battlefield 2042.
He’s also played Thomas the Tank Engine for the last decade.
He didn't really play Thomas the tank engine, I think it's more correct to say that he voiced Thomas the tank engine
@@Defender78"hE dIdNt rEaLLy pLaY... "
Rest easy, Easy Company.
The joys of command ...
I liked the way they got rid of Peacock.
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100% agree. He was not a bad guy or rude to them & wanted to do his best. Some are just not fit for command(:
Yes, Peacock was not suited for combat. Like how Sobel was better as a trainer than a combat leader, Peacock probably had talents that were better suited for in the rear. I read online that he was a big by-the-book officer, so maybe administration. Plus, he cared about the men too much to be hated. And according to Winters, he definitely wasn't lazy.
He also died very young after the war . Not much luck
@@hannahdyson7129 Sorry to hear that.
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In the words of Winters: “God bless him, no one tries harder…but I’m sure as hell not making him company CO when I don’t want him as a platoon leader.”
As winter's said, it's not like they could replace dyke but was always curious when winter's said he wanted easy to have one experienced platoon leader.
How come Randleman was never considered to replace Compton? The precious episodes showed he was a good squad leader. Maybe cause of hindsight, but bull seemed like a good candidate to take over
Idk
Maybe because Compton was the leader of 2nd Platoon while Bull was in 1st platoon.
0:06 if anyone is wondering why Nixon said it that way was because he was one of those "rich jerks from Yale ".
Compton all the way, I felt Winter's reason for not promoting him wasn't strong enough
I think, from reading the book and watching the series, Winters was thinking that Buck was already showing signs of 'fatigue' at that time and was too close to his men to be able to command the company effectively, as you see in the opening episode before the D-Day jump when Winters talks to him about it.
RIP Lieutenant Colonel Edward Shames.
Cut to:
"I'll give it to the war criminal."
Well.. he was the best choice 🤷♂️
The "eyes" in this scene tell so much about the story...
RIP Shames
Dike got two bronze stars, I wonder whether this depiction of him is really fair. One of the Bronze star was for rescuing three wounded soldiers of his company while under intense enemy fire.
Its not fair, he was shot in the battle of Foy and relieved. Lipton and Winters had every reason to deflect the blame of heavy casualties onto Dike in their retelling to scapegoat him, but it was Winter's plan to attack a Panzergrenadier unit with light infantry and mortars
Rest Easy Col
Damian Lewis's American accent is STRUGGLING in this scene 😂
Question: wouldn't that loud screaming by Shames be heard by the Germans?
Yeah, they hoped a German sharpshooter would get interested in an easy pick of an officer.
Thats assuming the German understood English ....
@@hannahdyson7129 well, if it's a language other than German...
So even though Winters commands the entire Battalion he's not allowed to replace any Company commanders?
With all due respect to those whose accounts were used for the basis of the HBO Series...Ed Shames, Sobel, Dike...the portrayal of these men who can't defend themselves and to have their service records and conduct and character besmirched by a movie??? Then the hybrid Ambrose novel and interpretation of events to fit a dramatic film production...even Wild Bill said he did not get any tangible windfall from his sacrifice??? sad...Cease the war- increase the peace...buzzards and carrion crows picking their bones...
Shames is still alive
@@MrHalohunter24 How many people had heard of him or knew that he disagreed with his portrayal until now that he's the last living member of the company? He's still alive to defend himself but he didn't have a platform to do so until now and certainly not one as big as HBO.
@@MrHalohunter24 True, But Sobel and Dike are not and Band of Brothers misrepresents them horribly.
For instance, Dike is portrayed, in this clip no less, as an arrogant college boy. However, prior to taking command of Easy Company, Dike was award two Bronze Stars for acts of heroism.
The first was when he coordinated and lead scattered units in Holland to secure vital supply chains against far superior and repeated German attacks.
The second was not long before, in Bastonge, when he exposed himself to enemy fire to save 3 wounded men.
Another man from Dog Company even contradicts Sargent Lipton's claim that Dike fell apart due to nerves in the final assault, stating that Dike went into shock due to being shot in the shoulder and losing blood.
Dike was not the best man, but he was not just some arrogant college boy, and certainly wasn't a coward.
@@iliadnetfear2586 Hollywood does this all the time. Have you ever seen Cinderella Man? They portrayed the main antagonist boxer Max Baer as some ruthless evil cynical rude asshole, when in reality, the real Max Baer had ptsd and overwhelming guilt over the men who died in the ring and would donate his prize to their families.
In any case, I dont think Shames was very bothered by this representation, it probably just amused him
Peacock was not suited for combat. Like how Sobel was better as a trainer than a combat leader, Peacock probably had talents that were better suited for in the rear. I read online that he was a big by-the-book officer, so maybe administration. Plus, he cared about the men too much to be hated. And according to Winters, he definitely wasn't lazy.
In the show, Shames came across as an insecure glory seeker who only cared about his own career. It's one thing if he's yelling constantly at the junior enlisted, but if he's yelling at his NCOs like that? Red flag, everybody. Edward Shames should have gotten more screen time twenty years ago. He enlisted at the age of twenty in 1942 as a private. Became a paratrooper. Jumped into Normandy on D-Day and survived. Became the first NCO in the Third Battalion to receive a battlefield commission to 2nd Lieutenant. Fought in and survived the Battle of the Bulge. Saw concentration camps in Germany (he's Jewish, so imagine how he felt at the time). Stayed in the reserves for nearly thirty after the war, during that time, getting married and raising a family. Retired as a full-bird colonel. He's still alive and now a widower with children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. Really the only way he would be more impressive is if he enlisted at seventeen or eighteen and became a general before retiring. If he actually did yell a lot, then he was probably still thinking like an NCO and developing PTSD. As of today (two weeks after his 99th birthday), he is one of the only two members of Easy Company, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment,
101st Airborne Division still alive and the only officer still alive; the other one is Private First Class Bradford Freeman who is the only enlisted man still alive at age 96.
He should have had more airtime. I think the problem is that he didn't cooperate with Ambrose, so it became the Dick Wintera version of events
@@imtryinghere1 I think it was more that Ambrose became enamoured with the Winters Story and the clique around him i.e. Lipton, Malarky, Guarnere and Ranney. They were the ones Ambrose interviewed and formed relationships with. And that was the story he wrote - at the expense of other voices/memories. None of the NCO's listed there served in 3rd Platoon under Shames. However, we do know that Forrest Guth and Popeye Wynn did and both of them said Shames was the best Officer they served under. Wouldn't send his men out to do anything he wouldn't do himself. He was strict and by the book. As an ex-NCO he knew where corners would be cut by enlisted men.
There is also the fact that Shames absolutely despised Lewis Nixon. Called him a 'hopeless fall down drunk'. Not a great way to have a relationship with your Company and then Battalion Commander when you say that about his best friend ... especially when you are an 'outsider'. Although he did Toccoa and Jump School at the same time as Easy Company, he was in fact the 1st Sgt of I Company (3rd Battalion, 506th PI Reg) when they jumped on June 6th. Shames received a Battlefield Commission a week or two after D-Day and was sent to Easy Company (because they had that rule that said you couldn't serve in the same unit as an Officer if you received the Battlefield Commission). Shames didn't take over 3rd platoon till after Market Garden. So he was an 'Outsider' to Easy Company, despite being a Toccoa Man.
Recon marines in generation kill: at least you don’t have Captain America crying on the comms
"Is he crying?" "No, he's not." "Fuck it, he's crying."
Or Encino Man, a glory seeker whose incompetence cost the lives of his men.
They guy who plays Dyke is a Tipperary man from Ireland
I loved the show but rarely laughed because it wasn't a comedy.
But, Shames made me laugh so hard 😄
If they replaced Dike with Shames, it would have been fun.
You can find a great interview on UA-cam with Ed Shames.
He dispels a lot of legends.
Of course, his viewpoint.
But a good interview nonetheless.
Why didn't Winters mention Foley (1st Platoon)?
Little weird on the timing, Buck gets pulled from the line, and there are injuries and rotations, so Foley isn't mentioned in this clip.
DO NOT EVER TALK WHEN IM TALKING
BOTH OF YOU LITTLE CRABHEADS, DID NOT LISTEN TO A WORD I SAID DURING THE BRIEFING, DID YOU?
BOTH OF YOU LITTLE CRAPHEADS DID NOT LISTEN TO A *W O R D* I SAID DURING THAT BRIEFING DID YOU
Fun fact: the guy who played Shames eventually went on to play Thomas The Tank Engine
The contrast between Joseph May's portrayal of Shames and his portrayal of Andy Button in Episodes shows some impressive range as an actor. It's a shame (sorry) that they didn't make him more of a character in this series, as he was an interesting story (as others have said). I think this is the only episode he appears in, and in most of his other scenes he is basically an extra.
Shames eventually became an officer.
He's an officer in the clip, a platoon leader. They're debating which of the three platoon leaders would make the best company executive officer. Shames received a battlefield commission to Second Lieutenant in Normandy as a Sergeant, this takes place the winter after that.
He was already an officer here just isn't a good one
@@justinebautista1383 He was
I still don't understand why they can't find a single option to replace Dike? What about Jack E. Foley? He seems decent from limit time on the show. While Dike lost himself, Foley seems handle very well of 1st platoon while under heavy enemy fire from Foy. Plus I remember Guarnere speak highly of Foley.
Unpopular opinion, Foley could be a decent choice, but for some reason, Winters back then and the director of BoB both somehow decide not to bring Foley up at that point during conversation. Why? Bc it doesn't make the situation that desperate. So instead, they just say "Buck is the only choice...but I want Easy company has at least one experienced platoon leader, not that it matters anyway, bc I can't get rid of Dike". Honestly, this part is a head nodding when I watch first couple of times, but after rewatch so many times, this replacing dike conversation just doesn't make sense.
I believe the reason Lt. Foley wasn't considered was because he didn't have much combat experience before Foy, he only became leader of 1st Platoon during Batstone. Prior to Bastone, Welsh was the leader of 1st platoon.
Dike didn't 'lose himself', contrary eye witness accounts to Sargent Lipton's claim say thay Dike went into shock due to loss of blood when he was shot in the shoulder.
The show neglects to mention Dike had a decorated record before leading Dog Company. Receiving 2 Bronze Stars for lead ad-hoc, mangled units in Holland during Market Garden to secure vital supply chains and the second in Bastonge when he saved 3 wounded men while under German small arms fire.
@@iliadnetfear2586 Dike still a war hero and capable commanding officer. He just didn't met Easy Co. standard of leadership.
He was a bit inexperienced I remembered. Unlike all 3 Lt.'s who are D'day vets.
Do not ever talk!!!!
why he didn’t put Lt. Welsh as Easy’s CO???
Lt. Welsh was wounded on Christmas Day and had to leave the line. He later rejoined Easy while they were in Haguenau.
@@tannguyentrong6292 thanks for reminding me
@@tannguyentrong6292 Forgot that Welsh was wounded the previous episode.
@@MarioLabot You know these were real people and were based on real events not episodes right?
@@shifty7739 We know
And then Winters decided to give the company to an insane man who would've made Col. Kurtz's squad in Vietnam.
Peacock is the nicer version of Sobel. Lol
Dike was a great character and how the story played out was great. Sadly, it was horribly exaggerated and inaccurate to the real man. Why they did this, I will never know. Just like how they lied about Blythe. Every word of the text saying "he died" was BS.
Makes you question what other things they might have gotten wrong AND ON PURPOSE.
Sound only came about in the what... late 1920s but that wasn't even talking yet just sound and music. You gonna tell me from 1930s to 1944-1945 yelling military commanders were so common in the movies that one of Easy companies leaders was just life that? That is a modern reference thrown in to a WW2 memoirs series.
We finally realized Ivy League is trash. Shames was the man.
Lord make me an nco. I would be the standard
This clip doesn't have anything to do with NCOs, Mr. Never Served. The Lord doesn't make NCOs by the way, they make themselves and reach up and grab the title. Sincerely, a former U.S. Army infantry Corporal.
Corporal 😂