lol, that and also when putting on a shirt quickly and accidently putting your head through the sleeve hole getting stuck for a second. Pure panic inducing. 😲
They should have skydived into the forest, hiked in a blizzard across a mountain, and then dived into the freezing ice water cave. Better not take any chances that you could survive doing it.
The fact that the deeper you go, and the longer you linger, you lose the ability to quickly exit without long decompression stops makes this even more insane and terrifying. It’s like, even if you somehow manage not to get trapped in an icy underwater cave, and you decide you want out ASAP, you still have hang around for HOURS.
David Shaw's last dive was insane when i read the stats. Setting the 890ft cave dive record, For every minute he spent at that depth in the Bush....an entire hour added to decompression stops
"They made all decompression stops and surfaced 90 minutes too early for it to be safe" Like what? How long did they spend decompressing to still come out 90 minutes early?
it's an obsession among some people. my dad used to cave dive before he got married. He said it was like meditation to him, and the only reason he stopped was because my mom had seen documentaries like this which scared her, so she forced him to get a safer hobby lol
My dad used to be a cave diver. He stopped after seeing this kind of documentary and change his hobby to cosplaying with my mom and posting pictures online.
Speaking as someone who is claustrophobic, the idea of going into a narrow cave is terrifying. My brain can't even process the idea of doing so _underwater._
@@ChallengeFate I had therapy that helped. When I was young even using elevators was terrifying, but now I'm OK. (Not that I'd want to be locked inside one or anything.) Now it's only _really_ tight spaces that give me problems. I had an MRI a few years ago and I had to be sedated.
@@mirandastephens4586 Other than the MRI I've always been in situations where I could get out or it didn't last long. Never had a full panic attack. Elevator rides were bad, but they were short and I could push through the feeling. Where I lived there just weren't any tall buildings, so going up a couple floors didn't give me time to really get worked up. I would take the stairs when I could. I'm honestly not sure how I would handle being in a cave like that. Now it's just being surrounded really close that really bothers me.
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As an experienced cave diver (though not CCR), I still don't understand how other experienced divers make such strange (reckless, danger-inducing) decisions after repeated dive planning goes on. I'm particularly critical of the lack of dedicated surface support personnel considering the ambient winter temperature and myriad deep diving risks, the preplanned(?) decision to rehearse a bail-out procedure at the deepest stretch requiring increased decompression stops without having the requisite air to accommodate if even a slight delay takes place, among other avoidable problems.... Cave diving is THE most dangerous kind of diving... add to that depths requiring Trimix/CCR, winter temperatures in Norway, diving a new (reverse) route in a cave with narrow passages. Accepting risks is one thing -- ignoring them is another!
I am curious. What are your major reasons to like cave driving? Is there adrenaline like in sky diving or something else? Genuinely curious what first gives you the interest and then what draws you to do more
Also what happens when people freak out? Is it something that becomes uncontrollable at a certain point? Like when people drink salt water and go crazy? Especially people doing this type of diving it seems crazy that they'd freak out that bad. I would definitely freak out, but I'm not a cave diver, diver or caver
@@mirandastephens4586 First of all, thanks for these questions, Miranda (my name is Neal) -- I can only answer for myself, but I'll give this a shot. (1) There is a rare solace I experience (not to mention an incredible beauty) when floating through an underwater cave. I do not and I will not ever squeeze through an opening in any cave. This sets me apart from my more adventurous colleagues... but I do have a sense of adventure and I will accept a moderate amount of risk -- with CAREFUL and THOROUGH planning. Let me overemphasize the deliberate act of being CAREFUL and THOROUGH! I'll spare the details of my own dive planning and preparation, but it's far more meticulous than anything else I do. (2) I, personally, have "freaked out" TWICE in my underwater explorations: (a) once when I noticed I was using up WAY too much air due to fighting a stronger current in a cave than I was expecting, turned around and barely reached the surface in time -- luckily for me I wasn't submerged long enough to require a safety stop -- but I had to end my dives for that day, (b) I got silted out once (this means enough silt has accumulated in the water around me that I'm completely blind after about 6 inches from my face) and temporarily lost sight of and grasp on the safety line through the cave. I physically shuddered, then paused, took a few slow breaths, and then used my arms to gently feel around for the line, -- located it, turned back toward the entrance and glided slowly toward clearer water... our dive continued normally, but there's a stark shock to the system when you feel helpless, blind and realize that there is NO forgiveness and NO escape if you panic/experience an equipment failure/become lost underwater in a cave. The only experience I've had with nitrogen narcosis was part of a training dive and I've never experienced decompression sickness or oxygen toxicity -- these are three potential killers as well. I've had a really great experience diving in general and still love it despite the risks! Check out this link if you'd like more exposure to the sport of cave diving (and more riveting stories of cave diving) -- I don't know them personally, but their content is great! www.youtube.com/@DIVETALK
@@EuclidFusionSupernova stay safe and always follow your intuition dont doubt it. if its no its a no. it always start with that one out of the blue never done or rarely done decision in a bad timing .
Cave diving is so dangerous, that I keep getting new random UA-cam videos in my feed, telling the exact same story, and it's never the same person: dived in cave, lost/stuck, died in terror/despair. Feels like there is no end to these.
yeah I just saw a video where a caver was saying to his hundreds of thousand followers (probably many innocent kids) that caving is fun and risks are very rare, inviting everyone to copy him
A 5 minute delay means a 1 hour decompression so all of those divers had to make it through the system with very few if any delays and even if they have the oxygen there is the cold that will kill you. Definitely not worth the risk.
AI would have actually pronounced it correctly, lol. Humans can make mistakes sometimes. The narrator I'm working with is an amazing guy. I couldn't have wished for any better!
I'm not trying to make a joke but I believe it's the same people that are into that erotic asphyxiation. I think the possibility of 💀 turns them on in a sick twisted way
I really appreciate the color system and names attached.I usually get lost and end up rewinding in these endlessly to track.Made it enjoyable too thanks!
This story illustrates one of the most important concepts to understand about deep recreational diving, cave diving, or any kind of technical diving for that matter -- if you panic, you die. Even though all I've ever done is some light recreational diving at a very novice level, I can completely understand how dangerous it is to panic as I small taste of it myself when I was getting certified. It's important to learn those lessons early and to never forget them either. Fortunately we were only down around 30-35 feet, and it was during the part where you are required to remove your mask at depth, put it back on, lean your head back and then clear it of all the water inside by exhaling and pushing it out. Since that was my first time attempting it, I happened to get water in my nose while trying to clear it, immediately panicked, and shot straight up the surface. Remaining calm and controlling breathing is definitely something that you have to learn to do, especially when in extreme distress. I couldn't imagine even putting myself in the situation these guys were in, as the claustrophobic nature of cave diving makes it a huge NOPE for me....
Lol not to panic is one thing .but the most idiotic thing here is that they did not have a margin of safety in case they get stuck. Their window was too tight
Really the “if you panic, you die” should be for anything that has to do with going under the water. Even swimming. When I was 9 I got held down by another girl because she couldn’t swim and used me as a life float. I fought for my life and yeah I almost did panic but I was focused. Focused on getting anyone to hear me when my head was out of the water. I was bobbing up and down and I don’t know if that was me trying to swim up and her pushing me down. But i remember trying to get her off of me (obviously) it just felt like she kept grabbing me. It was a horrifying experience. I am someone who by that time i had enough life experience to stay calm enough to make sure I could get myself out of the situation. It’s understandable why so many people have a fear of water. It’s scary and can take you in seconds.
Question, the most dangerous spot in the cave was the deepest, where they both lost their lives. Why the heck would you decide to practice your bail out procedure THERE? That could’ve been what doomed the first guy. Could breath holding repeatedly while switching systems precipitate a gas imbalance? Seems like that’s something you’d already have worked out before doing it repeatedly at depth in the most dangerous section of a cave.
@@DylanBegazo That’s why I wonder if practicing his bail out procedure down there caused him to start down that road. Everything is so critical at that depth.
Last night I got a news alert on my phone, it said that there had been another death at Plura Cave. A party of nine went in, only eight came out. The victim was an American citizen. I wouldn’t be surprised if the authorities in Norway decide to close the cave for good.
I remember the case. I live in Finland and that catastrofy was horrible. I remember that the norwegian authorities and norwegian professional divers thought it was impossible to take the bodies off the cave, so they just left them there, closed the area and said it was forbiden to dive there after what happened. Even it was forbiden, the Finn divers decided to take back their friends’ bodies, so they went to the same place withouth the Norwegian authorities knowing about it, and took the bodies off the cave so after all, they could be taken to Finland. Those divers were incredibly talented and they could do the job, the Norwegians thought it was impossible to do. It was dangerous, but not impossible. But in the other hand, why should the Norwegian divers risk their lives for the Finns that were already dead? Their decision was the best under those conditions.
As a Norwegian and living here. People need to be careful. Not just with cave diving. Same with walking in the mountains. Many people has died. Or got hurt really bad. I feel for everyone in this case. It's so sad. :(
@@charlesfaure1189Internal or external, there is always something to take away or learn from hence discovery. Hobbies can skill build and mold us into fulfilling greater purposes. Can you imagine these guys discovering entirely unknown niche ecosystems down there? The possibilities are endless considering life.
You do a great job with the detail you put in each story. Many channels rush through a story, but you take the time to give details and explanations. Great job.
why the fuck would you do practice shit lik that that would cause more issues at that depth and that far into a cave? so many weird things going on here
Risk of death feels good. At least most adrenaline junkies get their fix from skydiving or free climbing where the impact at least probably kills you instantly if something goes wrong.
I feel quite fulfilled with my hobby of scrapbooking!!. Never once have I gotten stuck, ran out of air, or watched friends die. I have however received a few paper cuts. I'll risk that anytime!!
I feel the same about my hobbies of art and gaming, the worst I've gotten is papercuts, marker stains on my hands, and mild benign eyestrain from not blinking often enough with screens. But I get that at work at my office job already anyway.
If they wanted beautiful views they could have went to Hawaii instead of going in a cave to see literally dark cave walls… what beautiful view are they high?
Dans la vidéo ils disent des gens qualifiés, comme nos politiciens ils sont qualifiés pour couler notre pays ,je me méfie des gens qualifiés mon ami est mort en montagne avec un guide qualifié qui a mal accroché la corde une chute de 20 mètres et mort au bout de 10 heures car ils sont tombés à la tombé de la nuit quand il rentrait
This would be a great horror movie , I know its tragic but this tale should tell you not all water should be treaded, and not all caves explored. Sometimes the mystery of something should remain a mystery.
I remember this incident very well, which happened 10 years ago in 2014. Five divers were divided into two groups: 1,2+3,4,5 and they planned to swim through an underwater cave 3 kilometers long in 5 hours. The time difference between the dives of these two groups was 2 hours. As a result of the tragedy, divers number 1 and 3 needed more than 8 hours, instead of 5, to get to the surface. And it took diver number 5 more than 11 hours to get to the surface. All three surviving divers were placed by doctors in a decompression chamber, since during the ascent none of them made the mandatory stops for decompression.
4:43 It's the other way around! Hypercapnia occurs when divers can't get rid of their CO2 - this happens when at high depths the breathing gas is so viscous that it's difficult to breath quickly/thoroughly enough (because of highly increased breathing labor). If you're hyperventilating (e.g. in panic) you actually become *hypo*capnic, the opposite of hypercapnic, i.e. with hypocapnia your blood-CO2 drops and thus the blood becomes alkaline, which causes unconsciousness beyond a certain level.
From the write-up on Bushman's Hole tragedy I made out that increased breathing rate at high depths leads to increase of breathing labor and reduced efficiency of gas exchange (due to turbulent gas flow) and, yes, *hyper*capnia, causing dyspnea spiral. Basically hyperventilation makes the effects of gas viscosity you've mentioned much worse.
Long boring tunnel with low visibility. Why take such a huge risk for something so mundane, must be much more interesting and beautiful caves that are a lot safer.
If you’ve never gone scuba diving you can’t understand why. It’s a whole other world underwater. It is unbelievably beautiful under water when you spend long times. It’s life changing to sit on the bottom of a lake and just experience the beauty and isolation If you have t experienced it you will never understand why people do this.
I’m not a diver. But it’s terrifying to know that if you panic at all you literally kill yourself. And imagine seeing you friend dead in the water, controlling your emotions 😭 bruh this is like a horror movie
He means that the gas was not suitable for decompressing but rather was a mix for the deep part of the cave. Divers use different mixes of gas when ascending and need to decompress that those they use on the bottom.
The bailout gas is what you switch to when you’re trapped/in a sticky situation at depth. Once you start sucking on the bailout gas instead of your regular gas, you’re conserving the regular gas that is suitable for ascent, providing that you get your situation at depth straightened out and are able to continue on to the surface. It all has to do with capacity of gases and the physiological processes that occur during the ascent. Even though standard logical reasoning would seem to dictate that fast egress from the cave is you’re going for when you hit trouble so obviously you should use the bailout gas to get to the surface, physics comes along and says "no, not in this case."
Your voice is so good for story telling. This video is also so well edited and so interesting to watch. I love watching videos like this, and I believe I just found another awesome channel.
That just sounds so absurdly dangerous. If anything goes wrong, you die. If you tear your suit, if you panic and breathe heavily, if your rebreather fails, if the gas mix isn't just right, or even if it is and you still get narcosis, if you're delayed at depth, if your friend panics. Human beings were not meant to go into those environments. You might as well be traveling to outer space. You can wear equipment to protect yourself, but, it seems like, you do that stuff enough, eventually something goes wrong and you just die.
They had more than red flags waving at them. Below freezing temps; a minimum 5 hour dive, not including decompression time; high intensity technical diving; need to cut through ice to even get in. God rest their souls.
I saw some of this clips in tiktok under the cave diving gone wrong videos and I was like, I need to see the full video and omg I found your channel and it was the best thing ever, I'm so glad! And all of your videos are just amazing from the graphics, storytelling and the info. A new subscriber for sure and now I'm gonna binge watch all of ur videos and looking forward for more in the future. Keep up the good work!!! 🥰 😍 P. S I just don't understand why would they do this, I had like so many unbreathable moments just to watch this one 💀
we wouldn't know anything about the world if smart and brave people kept their feet on the ground. airplanes, spaceships, shuttles, satellites, submarines, I mean the list goes on man
Keep at it with the videos! You are still a relatively new channel. At this quality of videos, you will have TONS of subscribers in no time! Amazing work.
Always excited when this chanel uploads, its super intresting to watch. These stories are always super detailed which makes we want to watch even more. You deserve more subs 💯💯
Statistically, there will be events in which expertise and experience will not suffice to return alive and, paradoxically, may even contribute to a cave diver's demise.
I was going to cave dive into an impassable, pitch black, bottomless, underwater, frozen ocean but then I realized ethylene glycol has no taste when mixed with green Gatorade. That, and there's plenty of bridges where I live
Some people that have drowned and then been resuscitated have said that it’s a short period of extreme panic and anxiety, and then a surreal feeling of calm as you drift into the darkness. Definitely worse ways to go.
It took me awhile to respond (thumbed up/down)to your comment. So I grade you instead, 0/F for failing to show sorrow and compassion, 100/A+ for getting me to laugh at such a stupid depressing video..Stupid to me because I would have waited for summer to Finnish responding to your comment. Sad to say Good One
People that do things like extreme cave diving, and free solo mountain climbing....there brains are just wired differently. I can't fathom what kind of thrill would be worth that level of risk to life.
@@leob4403 Your projection kiddo. Try again, without being wrong again little one. I don’t do this nor will I ever. So as stated, your projection made you look ignorant and wrong. Better luck next time kiddo. Hahahahaha!
We have certain drives that go unfulfilled in the modern world. A lot of times people need the adrenaline fueled thrills for good mental health. Its like work dogs that people try to make housepets, they get all sorts of weird behaviors.
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I’ve seen this video before and cave dive accidents videos and yours was the best! All of the information you gave about the equipment and the actual dive, and the diagram ,is really helpful!! i hope to you will make more videos about cave diving.
Thats not even the full story. The government banned diving the plura cave so they set up a secret operation to retrieve their friends and documented the whole thing. I wont spoil it for you but its on amazon or netflix and the film is called "diving into the unknown" (and its epic)
Very good channel. Love your narrator, very informative. Kept me invested. I've heard this story before, but this is the best version. I am definitely subbing.😊
More people should watch this than some random stupid TikTok videos. This actually takes a lot of effort. Creating a 10 second TikTok video is peak lazyness, a sign of our useless braindead society.
As a swede, I remember this showing up on the news and I never knew to much about this incident until I found this video and now the full image really shows it self Thanks for sharing this Love from Sweden
The grieving should be more just acceptance on a dive like that. It should be no surprise when encountering your friend’s body down there. You’re each playing Russian roulette. Say your goodbyes on the ice before even attempting something like that. And when you say “bye” to the wife and kids….you mean goodbye. Also, cutting through the ice in subzero temps in Norway…..it’s going to freeze up quickly. An orange marker placed underwater at the spot would go a long way so you aren’t clueless as to where the exit is. The whole thing is insane tho so why worry about those details? R.I.P. fellas
They did not think they were coming back that way, so they didn't care about the hole closing nor marking the hole. But you are correct, you should prepare for every possibility
That's the part I don't understand. But I know when someone I've loved has died, even if they're very old, I've always gasped and kind of lost control of my emotions. But it sort of seems like you should be at peace with dying.
No mitigating circumstances. No cave collapses. No floods or currents. No equipment failures. Just panic that created another panic. First guy got his scooter cord momentarily caught on a rock. Incorrectly faults a tank for blocking him. Gets his cord clear of the rocks, but by that time he's too frustrated and scared calm back down and catch his breath. The second guy died of sheer dreed.
I already panic when I can't unwrap my legs from my cozy blanket fast enough.
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lol, that and also when putting on a shirt quickly and accidently putting your head through the sleeve hole getting stuck for a second. Pure panic inducing. 😲
Lol
Cave diving is crazy enough but cave diving under frozen water is just plain nutz
Darwin award.
They should have skydived into the forest, hiked in a blizzard across a mountain, and then dived into the freezing ice water cave. Better not take any chances that you could survive doing it.
No cave diving is plain nutz and cave diving in frozen water double plain nutz
@@tracemiller1519 😂🤣
I like taking risks but this is hell no for me even if they offered me 50 mil i wouldnt go
These situations almost never happen to coin collectors.
Almost.
Imagine being that one guy who dies collecting coins
Not true, there are deep sea treasure hunters looking for gold coins from shipwrecks
Yeah but that's not an exciting hobby. Caving is not for cowards.
10:51 me when something touched my foot when swimming.
The fact that the deeper you go, and the longer you linger, you lose the ability to quickly exit without long decompression stops makes this even more insane and terrifying. It’s like, even if you somehow manage not to get trapped in an icy underwater cave, and you decide you want out ASAP, you still have hang around for HOURS.
David Shaw's last dive was insane when i read the stats. Setting the 890ft cave dive record, For every minute he spent at that depth in the Bush....an entire hour added to decompression stops
What's more terrifying, is discovering 2 of your mates dead 😢
You can take your time hanging around while a couple of your frends are dead behind. Just chill.
"They made all decompression stops and surfaced 90 minutes too early for it to be safe"
Like what? How long did they spend decompressing to still come out 90 minutes early?
@@DRourkey Over 3 hours if my math is correct at the reading they gave of one of the divers, closer to 4 with ascending.
They couldnt have picked a safer hobby like stamp collecting
it's an obsession among some people. my dad used to cave dive before he got married. He said it was like meditation to him, and the only reason he stopped was because my mom had seen documentaries like this which scared her, so she forced him to get a safer hobby lol
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
I don't know you might get a paper cut
Or drugs 😂
PlayStation is much safer 👍
My dad used to be a cave diver. He stopped after seeing this kind of documentary and change his hobby to cosplaying with my mom and posting pictures online.
LOL
Dang, Bro i love diving but bruh, these documentary scare me as hell
@vsamotalin SARM goblin says what?
He’s got a wife that cosplays dude picked right lmao that’s what all men what
I’m sorry little one.
@vsamotalin It's called supporting people's hobbies and being a decent person, you should try it sometime.
Speaking as someone who is claustrophobic, the idea of going into a narrow cave is terrifying. My brain can't even process the idea of doing so _underwater._
Can claustrophobia be treated? I feel sorry for you.
@@ChallengeFate I had therapy that helped. When I was young even using elevators was terrifying, but now I'm OK. (Not that I'd want to be locked inside one or anything.) Now it's only _really_ tight spaces that give me problems. I had an MRI a few years ago and I had to be sedated.
And for 5 hours
@@Evil0ttowhat happens? Do you get a panic attack or something similar?
@@mirandastephens4586 Other than the MRI I've always been in situations where I could get out or it didn't last long. Never had a full panic attack. Elevator rides were bad, but they were short and I could push through the feeling. Where I lived there just weren't any tall buildings, so going up a couple floors didn't give me time to really get worked up. I would take the stairs when I could. I'm honestly not sure how I would handle being in a cave like that.
Now it's just being surrounded really close that really bothers me.
The frozen lake blocking the entrance should’ve been a sign.
Not having a long fart was thr sign not to go
@@lokanandbaychulol wtf??
The whole "let's dive into an almost frozen 500ft deep underwater cave for no reason at all" should have been a sign
They did it for the cameras the clout dam the Internet is evil
YEAH THAT CHAINSAW IS A BIT TOO MUCH LOL, I THOUGHT SCANDINAVIANS WERE SMART
You dont have to worry about retrieving my body from a cave. My ass ain’t going.
😂😂😂😂
My ass wouldn't fit in. I'd be like a cat with cut whiskers.
Nobodys worried..
@@dublessings something a liberal would say
@@123.7M dunno how you got from there to liberalism..
There's nothing in a frozen cave worth dying for.
There's nothing in any cave worth seeing!!!
What about that secret pirate treasure?
@@roflryan1 We'll there's that. So.....
What is the up side of this insanity 👽
Is there even anything living in them???
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Thank you, really appreciate that.
He needs to fix his audio, the music is louder than the ai
@@TheeApplethis really doesn’t sound like AI if it is it’s crazy good 😭
@@TheeAppleI was able to tolerate it which is rare for me. I hear music over the words I normally exit the video.
I agree
They didn't "find themselves" in a horrifying situation, THEY ACTUALLY PUT THEMSELVES in such predicament
Amen
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As an experienced cave diver (though not CCR), I still don't understand how other experienced divers make such strange (reckless, danger-inducing) decisions after repeated dive planning goes on. I'm particularly critical of the lack of dedicated surface support personnel considering the ambient winter temperature and myriad deep diving risks, the preplanned(?) decision to rehearse a bail-out procedure at the deepest stretch requiring increased decompression stops without having the requisite air to accommodate if even a slight delay takes place, among other avoidable problems....
Cave diving is THE most dangerous kind of diving... add to that depths requiring Trimix/CCR, winter temperatures in Norway, diving a new (reverse) route in a cave with narrow passages. Accepting risks is one thing -- ignoring them is another!
I am curious. What are your major reasons to like cave driving? Is there adrenaline like in sky diving or something else? Genuinely curious what first gives you the interest and then what draws you to do more
Also what happens when people freak out? Is it something that becomes uncontrollable at a certain point? Like when people drink salt water and go crazy? Especially people doing this type of diving it seems crazy that they'd freak out that bad. I would definitely freak out, but I'm not a cave diver, diver or caver
@@mirandastephens4586 First of all, thanks for these questions, Miranda (my name is Neal) -- I can only answer for myself, but I'll give this a shot. (1) There is a rare solace I experience (not to mention an incredible beauty) when floating through an underwater cave. I do not and I will not ever squeeze through an opening in any cave. This sets me apart from my more adventurous colleagues... but I do have a sense of adventure and I will accept a moderate amount of risk -- with CAREFUL and THOROUGH planning. Let me overemphasize the deliberate act of being CAREFUL and THOROUGH! I'll spare the details of my own dive planning and preparation, but it's far more meticulous than anything else I do. (2) I, personally, have "freaked out" TWICE in my underwater explorations: (a) once when I noticed I was using up WAY too much air due to fighting a stronger current in a cave than I was expecting, turned around and barely reached the surface in time -- luckily for me I wasn't submerged long enough to require a safety stop -- but I had to end my dives for that day, (b) I got silted out once (this means enough silt has accumulated in the water around me that I'm completely blind after about 6 inches from my face) and temporarily lost sight of and grasp on the safety line through the cave. I physically shuddered, then paused, took a few slow breaths, and then used my arms to gently feel around for the line, -- located it, turned back toward the entrance and glided slowly toward clearer water... our dive continued normally, but there's a stark shock to the system when you feel helpless, blind and realize that there is NO forgiveness and NO escape if you panic/experience an equipment failure/become lost underwater in a cave. The only experience I've had with nitrogen narcosis was part of a training dive and I've never experienced decompression sickness or oxygen toxicity -- these are three potential killers as well. I've had a really great experience diving in general and still love it despite the risks! Check out this link if you'd like more exposure to the sport of cave diving (and more riveting stories of cave diving) -- I don't know them personally, but their content is great!
www.youtube.com/@DIVETALK
@@EuclidFusionSupernova stay safe and always follow your intuition dont doubt it. if its no its a no. it always start with that one out of the blue never done or rarely done decision in a bad timing .
@@tractordave8335 100%
"Yo, wanna go cave diving this weekend?"
"Nah, I'm good."
Crisis averted ✅
😂😂😂
Blocked !
While LaMarcus declined, and went to the movies, Bradley and Kyle were never seen again at Deadman's Lake.
Fr lol yeah “ no, thanks! Sounds dumb!”
Cave diving is so dangerous, that I keep getting new random UA-cam videos in my feed, telling the exact same story, and it's never the same person:
dived in cave, lost/stuck, died in terror/despair.
Feels like there is no end to these.
MAYBE IS A SIGN 🪧 YOU SHOULD PROBABLY NEVER EVER CAVE DIVE
My husband actually asked didn't you hear this story already and I said, different cave different dipshit
Some people just want to live life but ends up badly
@@Warnoob123"diein ain't much of a livin boy"
yeah I just saw a video where a caver was saying to his hundreds of thousand followers (probably many innocent kids) that caving is fun and risks are very rare, inviting everyone to copy him
A 5 minute delay means a 1 hour decompression so all of those divers had to make it through the system with very few if any delays and even if they have the oxygen there is the cold that will kill you. Definitely not worth the risk.
This video is terrifying. The narrator's unique tone of voice only adds to it. The frantic CGI animations are absolutely harrowing.
AI would have actually pronounced it correctly, lol. Humans can make mistakes sometimes. The narrator I'm working with is an amazing guy. I couldn't have wished for any better!
If a chainsaw is required to begin the journey, maybe one should abandon the journey.
@@matthewhowe3727LOL
For some reason whenever I see the CGI animations I hear the instrumental parts to Beck's 'New Pollution' in my head. I never even liked that song
That sport is one that I can’t get my head around. Squeezing through impossible gaps until at last you find one that you get stuck in is madness.
That's not sport, it's stupidity.
i think its for people who are subsconsciously suicidal but dont have the balls to do it
I'm not trying to make a joke but I believe it's the same people that are into that erotic asphyxiation. I think the possibility of 💀 turns them on in a sick twisted way
@@MegMeg287I can understand the appe if it was a short one way tunnel with markers everywhere.
Some caves should never be dived, this one of them.
None of them. They all seem to turn in disaster
The waters are 100% clear and the caves are stunning. I want to go there some day.
Who are you to determine that?
@@maxwellblackwell5045 "should", not "must".
Everyone is free to do what they want, including risking their lives under a cave.
*diven
I really appreciate the color system and names attached.I usually get lost and end up rewinding in these endlessly to track.Made it enjoyable too thanks!
Hear hear
Good point!
This story illustrates one of the most important concepts to understand about deep recreational diving, cave diving, or any kind of technical diving for that matter -- if you panic, you die. Even though all I've ever done is some light recreational diving at a very novice level, I can completely understand how dangerous it is to panic as I small taste of it myself when I was getting certified. It's important to learn those lessons early and to never forget them either. Fortunately we were only down around 30-35 feet, and it was during the part where you are required to remove your mask at depth, put it back on, lean your head back and then clear it of all the water inside by exhaling and pushing it out. Since that was my first time attempting it, I happened to get water in my nose while trying to clear it, immediately panicked, and shot straight up the surface. Remaining calm and controlling breathing is definitely something that you have to learn to do, especially when in extreme distress. I couldn't imagine even putting myself in the situation these guys were in, as the claustrophobic nature of cave diving makes it a huge NOPE for me....
I went through the same thing but in a pool. I was able to calm myself down and continued the exercise, but ai totally understand it.
Imagine taking of your mask and change your breathing system down in a cave with ice cold water like these guys were doing.
Holy crap.
Lol not to panic is one thing .but the most idiotic thing here is that they did not have a margin of safety in case they get stuck. Their window was too tight
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 No doubt -- Preparation prevents piss poor performance.
Really the “if you panic, you die” should be for anything that has to do with going under the water. Even swimming. When I was 9 I got held down by another girl because she couldn’t swim and used me as a life float. I fought for my life and yeah I almost did panic but I was focused. Focused on getting anyone to hear me when my head was out of the water. I was bobbing up and down and I don’t know if that was me trying to swim up and her pushing me down. But i remember trying to get her off of me (obviously) it just felt like she kept grabbing me. It was a horrifying experience. I am someone who by that time i had enough life experience to stay calm enough to make sure I could get myself out of the situation. It’s understandable why so many people have a fear of water. It’s scary and can take you in seconds.
Question, the most dangerous spot in the cave was the deepest, where they both lost their lives. Why the heck would you decide to practice your bail out procedure THERE? That could’ve been what doomed the first guy. Could breath holding repeatedly while switching systems precipitate a gas imbalance?
Seems like that’s something you’d already have worked out before doing it repeatedly at depth in the most dangerous section of a cave.
I agree
I don’t understand why the freak out at the lowest part for the first guy.
@@DylanBegazo That’s why I wonder if practicing his bail out procedure down there caused him to start down that road. Everything is so critical at that depth.
Some people like to live dangerously.
ADRENALIN
Last night I got a news alert on my phone, it said that there had been another death at Plura Cave. A party of nine went in, only eight came out. The victim was an American citizen. I wouldn’t be surprised if the authorities in Norway decide to close the cave for good.
I wish the authorities would allow people to make their own decisions and take responsibility for their own actions
Should the also close mountains and streets?😂
@@AronG-ff8ht probably, they would if it had been here in Sweden 😂
Because an American died ?
@@dannycolverson6944 Easy to say that when their responsible for retrieving the bodies
I remember the case. I live in Finland and that catastrofy was horrible. I remember that the norwegian authorities and norwegian professional divers thought it was impossible to take the bodies off the cave, so they just left them there, closed the area and said it was forbiden to dive there after what happened.
Even it was forbiden, the Finn divers decided to take back their friends’ bodies, so they went to the same place withouth the Norwegian authorities knowing about it, and took the bodies off the cave so after all, they could be taken to Finland.
Those divers were incredibly talented and they could do the job, the Norwegians thought it was impossible to do. It was dangerous, but not impossible. But in the other hand, why should the Norwegian divers risk their lives for the Finns that were already dead? Their decision was the best under those conditions.
The authorities would have known it was doable but they are not going to risk innocent lives to retrieve a body in that high risk environment.
whats the point of taking a body thats already underground to then put the body underground?
As a Norwegian and living here. People need to be careful. Not just with cave diving. Same with walking in the mountains. Many people has died. Or got hurt really bad. I feel for everyone in this case. It's so sad. :(
They should have beee PAID A Heavy FINE and maybe JAIL time...
@@crazycharlie3093 Those Finns are True Odd balls...
The quality is top notch that It feels like I’m watching the Discovery/ History channel
Kind of like "Diving into the unknown" on Netflix...
Great documentary
It’s AI
The voice right? @@reginaldforthright805
@@Acco__ it is about the same story but this video explain a little more, the documentary just show their perspective while diving
Pushing what is possible is how we make discoveries. That being said I'm happy finding spare change in my sofa.
Pushing for a reason other than an adrenaline rush. These clowns didn't discover anything worth knowing. It's not what they were after.
@@charlesfaure1189Internal or external, there is always something to take away or learn from hence discovery. Hobbies can skill build and mold us into fulfilling greater purposes. Can you imagine these guys discovering entirely unknown niche ecosystems down there? The possibilities are endless considering life.
And being stupid and reckless is how people end up dead at the bottom of claustrophobic caves or crushed at the Titanic.
😂😂😂
@@tsrmmercy836 what a stupid cope
As a finn, i read about this in the news. If i was a diver, i'd go to some tropical place and dive on shipwrecks max 10 meters below the surface.
You do a great job with the detail you put in each story. Many channels rush through a story, but you take the time to give details and explanations. Great job.
why the fuck would you do practice shit lik that that would cause more issues at that depth and that far into a cave? so many weird things going on here
Darwin award
@@Ambera3407 stupidest comment right here, and it's the second time you write it in this video alone by what I can see
Risk of death feels good. At least most adrenaline junkies get their fix from skydiving or free climbing where the impact at least probably kills you instantly if something goes wrong.
Adrenaline junkies
Other accounts of the story do not include this detail. Wouldn't surprise me if the narrator put it in for drama.
This is most peoples worst nightmare. Trapped in a tight place underwater, drowning and panicking. How absolutely terrifying.
I dont even like crawling under my bed. Now that's scary.
Not even in the summer when it's warm
😂😂😂😂
Boogeyman
Sometimes u crawl right? Xd
But that is because there are actual monsters hiding there.
I feel quite fulfilled with my hobby of scrapbooking!!. Never once have I gotten stuck, ran out of air, or watched friends die. I have however received a few paper cuts. I'll risk that anytime!!
But what if the paper cut gets infected? Your life may be at risk! 😨
I feel the same about my hobbies of art and gaming, the worst I've gotten is papercuts, marker stains on my hands, and mild benign eyestrain from not blinking often enough with screens. But I get that at work at my office job already anyway.
Run out of air.
If they wanted beautiful views they could have went to Hawaii instead of going in a cave to see literally dark cave walls… what beautiful view are they high?
Spoken like a dipshit that's never smoked.
I’ve heard this story countless times but this with the animations is like watching it for the first time!
I 'd rather play on my playstation I m good
Facts!
Yeah man
He ain't lyin'!
@FREEPALESTINEFTRTTSEA lol ye I'd rather play a virtual cave diving than irl cave diving
Adrenaline. Same reason people ride roller coasters,sky diving and etc.
instead of cave diving they should call it cave dying
Scary but true
I get it
Millions of cave divers are active. 1-5 die per year. That’s less than drivers do on highways.
@@lustrazor44well obviously significantly less divers than drivers
@@lustrazor44what if they drive too? 😂🤦🏻♂️
I don’t understand why people are doing this, risking their lives for nothing.
Dans la vidéo ils disent des gens qualifiés, comme nos politiciens ils sont qualifiés pour couler notre pays ,je me méfie des gens qualifiés mon ami est mort en montagne avec un guide qualifié qui a mal accroché la corde une chute de 20 mètres et mort au bout de 10 heures car ils sont tombés à la tombé de la nuit quand il rentrait
Thrills. Don't let anyone tell you it's noble.
Mental illness
Because its noble
it is very noble . Nobility nobles
I wouldn’t do this in warm water. Why are they doing this in frozen water? Actually I wouldn’t do this at all.
Whimp
This would be a great horror movie , I know its tragic but this tale should tell you not all water should be treaded, and not all caves explored. Sometimes the mystery of something should remain a mystery.
Leaving things to mystery is how religions were born.
Well stated
@@Nazgul094 causing confusion, numbness and fatigue
There are a few horror movies like this, similar at leasr
There is a documentary about this where they retrieve the bodies.
Totally underrated channel. great visual and audio explanation great quality content. keep up the good work.
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3,000 went on 2999 got out
I remember this incident very well, which happened 10 years ago in 2014. Five divers were divided into two groups: 1,2+3,4,5 and they planned to swim through an underwater cave 3 kilometers long in 5 hours. The time difference between the dives of these two groups was 2 hours. As a result of the tragedy, divers number 1 and 3 needed more than 8 hours, instead of 5, to get to the surface. And it took diver number 5 more than 11 hours to get to the surface. All three surviving divers were placed by doctors in a decompression chamber, since during the ascent none of them made the mandatory stops for decompression.
Umm .. we know that mate .. we all watched the video … seriously what do you think you have achieved in making this completely pointless post? 😂
This vid is stressful af. I can't remember I've been so drawn in. Awesome work!
4:43 It's the other way around! Hypercapnia occurs when divers can't get rid of their CO2 - this happens when at high depths the breathing gas is so viscous that it's difficult to breath quickly/thoroughly enough (because of highly increased breathing labor). If you're hyperventilating (e.g. in panic) you actually become *hypo*capnic, the opposite of hypercapnic, i.e. with hypocapnia your blood-CO2 drops and thus the blood becomes alkaline, which causes unconsciousness beyond a certain level.
From the write-up on Bushman's Hole tragedy I made out that increased breathing rate at high depths leads to increase of breathing labor and reduced efficiency of gas exchange (due to turbulent gas flow) and, yes, *hyper*capnia, causing dyspnea spiral. Basically hyperventilation makes the effects of gas viscosity you've mentioned much worse.
Long boring tunnel with low visibility. Why take such a huge risk for something so mundane, must be much more interesting and beautiful caves that are a lot safer.
Because humans are stupid, they think theyre all that, tough stupid challenges. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
If you’ve never gone scuba diving you can’t understand why. It’s a whole other world underwater. It is unbelievably beautiful under water when you spend long times. It’s life changing to sit on the bottom of a lake and just experience the beauty and isolation
If you have t experienced it you will never understand why people do this.
This youtube channel is becoming better with every video posted
Came across this channel on my feed and i must admit. The narration is 💪🏻💪🏻. Animations, edits are well done. Channel deserved more subscribers.
Glad you enjoy it!
I’m not a diver. But it’s terrifying to know that if you panic at all you literally kill yourself. And imagine seeing you friend dead in the water, controlling your emotions 😭 bruh this is like a horror movie
If the lake refroze and Kai couldn’t break through I’d’ve been heartbroken
kinda crazy how they didnt have an additional person on watch. Maybe put lights outside for navigation to the hole
2 people did die though.
@@archlinuxuser I think it is more about him being so close to escape and just barely not making it alive that would have been sad.
Sadly, another diver died there today. A group of 9 divers were diving together. Deceased was an american.
Ну, американцы такие американцы. Что с них возьмёшь? Иначе и быть не могло.
At this point I would just call it suicide.
Whats the link
as a visual learner, I am enjoying your vidoes as it is color coded and there are a lot of animations plus your voice is soothing!!!
Exactly , top tier
Same! I really appreciate it
"...the bail-out gas was only suitable for descending, NOT ascending."
Well I'm no rocket surgeon, but that seems a bit paradoxical.
Descending is much faster, so it’s about the capacity, not the quality of the gas
Well but bail-out means to escape so it would make more sense that bail-out would be for ascending not descending
He means that the gas was not suitable for decompressing but rather was a mix for the deep part of the cave. Divers use different mixes of gas when ascending and need to decompress that those they use on the bottom.
The bailout gas is what you switch to when you’re trapped/in a sticky situation at depth. Once you start sucking on the bailout gas instead of your regular gas, you’re conserving the regular gas that is suitable for ascent, providing that you get your situation at depth straightened out and are able to continue on to the surface. It all has to do with capacity of gases and the physiological processes that occur during the ascent. Even though standard logical reasoning would seem to dictate that fast egress from the cave is you’re going for when you hit trouble so obviously you should use the bailout gas to get to the surface, physics comes along and says "no, not in this case."
Your voice is so good for story telling. This video is also so well edited and so interesting to watch. I love watching videos like this, and I believe I just found another awesome channel.
I start to panic when I can't get ring off of my finger, so imagine this tragedy...
That just sounds so absurdly dangerous. If anything goes wrong, you die. If you tear your suit, if you panic and breathe heavily, if your rebreather fails, if the gas mix isn't just right, or even if it is and you still get narcosis, if you're delayed at depth, if your friend panics.
Human beings were not meant to go into those environments. You might as well be traveling to outer space. You can wear equipment to protect yourself, but, it seems like, you do that stuff enough, eventually something goes wrong and you just die.
Yep.
Wait till you hear about the people who travel to outer space!
What a way to go though eh!! Beautiful
They had more than red flags waving at them. Below freezing temps; a minimum 5 hour dive, not including decompression time; high intensity technical diving; need to cut through ice to even get in. God rest their souls.
A single mishap, and their whole plan fell apart. That's poor planning. A well conceived plan anticipates the unexpected.
I went scuba diving and got certified. After about a dozen dives I decided it wasn't for me. It's a strange activity
Good move quitting before dive number 13.
The way you narrated is really good! Subscribed🥂.
I saw some of this clips in tiktok under the cave diving gone wrong videos and I was like, I need to see the full video and omg I found your channel and it was the best thing ever, I'm so glad! And all of your videos are just amazing from the graphics, storytelling and the info. A new subscriber for sure and now I'm gonna binge watch all of ur videos and looking forward for more in the future. Keep up the good work!!! 🥰 😍
P. S I just don't understand why would they do this, I had like so many unbreathable moments just to watch this one 💀
You are awesome! Thank you for the kind words.
You have the best animations, visuals and commentary. Im looking forward to more videos! Especially about diving incidents
Thank you!
It’s already hard enough for humans to survive on land , why go places humans were never meant to go?
For your comment, its some divers tried like they did to prove you wrong.
For the likes
we wouldn't know anything about the world if smart and brave people kept their feet on the ground. airplanes, spaceships, shuttles, satellites, submarines, I mean the list goes on man
Wow - what great video! Subbed. Off to watch more 😊 May the two men who died rest in peace.
Keep at it with the videos! You are still a relatively new channel. At this quality of videos, you will have TONS of subscribers in no time! Amazing work.
Always excited when this chanel uploads, its super intresting to watch. These stories are always super detailed which makes we want to watch even more. You deserve more subs 💯💯
So what happened to cause the two to start panicking in the same location? Did they ever work out what happened?
Snowflakes
Quite brave of them to go get their friends back. Such a sad incident. Rest in peace.
"You want adventure?,I'll give you an adventure of a life time” - Mother Nature.
adventures to the fifth point
The divers were so ill-prepared. I can't believe they were certified technical divers.
Statistically, there will be events in which expertise and experience will not suffice to return alive and, paradoxically, may even contribute to a cave diver's demise.
Once something unexpected happens your adrenaline goes apeshit and your body fears imminent death
Cant wait for your channel to blow up! Insane quality in your videos. Thanks for producing them : ) Im having a blast binge-watching them right now.
Thank you this means a lot! Can't wait to really upgrade the quality of my videos immensely.
I love all of your videos. Can already see you becoming a huge channel.
Thank you! I am doing my best!
video fire!
5 adults, diving in icy water and narrow caves.what could have gone wrong??
How often are uploads because you have a great story telling voice😂👀!!?
Not yo mention the stories & video quality are👌🏾!
Thank you! I am actively working on uploading more frequently while retaining the quality. Stay tuned!
Love stuff like this, surprised on the amount of subs you have, deserve to be in the millions. Anyhow, you have 1 more 👍🏻
Thank you, you are amazing!
I was going to cave dive into an impassable, pitch black, bottomless, underwater, frozen ocean but then I realized ethylene glycol has no taste when mixed with green Gatorade.
That, and there's plenty of bridges where I live
Drowning while stuck has to be the worst way to die in my opinion.
burning to death is the worst way, drowning is far easier as i had nearly drowned twice.
Some people that have drowned and then been resuscitated have said that it’s a short period of extreme panic and anxiety, and then a surreal feeling of calm as you drift into the darkness. Definitely worse ways to go.
It goes to show that you should never start something that you can't Finnish
It took me awhile to respond (thumbed up/down)to your comment. So I grade you instead, 0/F for failing to show sorrow and compassion, 100/A+ for getting me to laugh at such a stupid depressing video..Stupid to me because I would have waited for summer to Finnish responding to your comment. Sad to say Good One
If you plan and execute such a dangerous dive in freezing water, your skill and experience will reset to level 1.
People that do things like extreme cave diving, and free solo mountain climbing....there brains are just wired differently. I can't fathom what kind of thrill would be worth that level of risk to life.
Basically they are proving their manliness to impress girls and get status and respect as a daredevil. It's the oldest story in the book
@@leob4403 projection little bubba. Try not to be subjective next time.
@@HellzDrifter too close to the truth and you got triggered huh, well I guess you personally do it for some noble cause or whatever
@@leob4403 Your projection kiddo. Try again, without being wrong again little one. I don’t do this nor will I ever. So as stated, your projection made you look ignorant and wrong. Better luck next time kiddo. Hahahahaha!
We have certain drives that go unfulfilled in the modern world. A lot of times people need the adrenaline fueled thrills for good mental health. Its like work dogs that people try to make housepets, they get all sorts of weird behaviors.
Best channel so far, in my journey to UA-cam from 2008 to tilll now, so far so great, good. No useless introduction, no hopeless music, no annoying background music direct to the story
Thank you for the kind words!
It’s never entered my mind before but jigsaw puzzles seem to be very appealing at present.
😂😂😂😂 And veeery exciting
@@fancybeingawesome 👍🏻😂😂😂
Can someone explain why you would do this? I can understand the appeal of diving in a cave, but a narrow, lifeless cave in the heart of winter? 🤷🏼♂️
I’ve seen this video before and cave dive accidents videos and yours was the best! All of the information you gave about the equipment and the actual dive, and the diagram ,is really helpful!! i hope to you will make more videos about cave diving.
I've noticed that panic is what has caused a lot of these diving deaths.
Yes. That and actually beginning the dive.
Why anyone has the urge to attempt anything like this, is beyond me.
Diving in that cave is like choosing Very Very Hard Mode in a game but playing with you life instead.
excellent analogy
Damn I've already seen this story on another channel. Dude this content is much better. And hats off for using metrics
Man. I mean, ofc I get most of the comments. But these guys went hard and prepared and I gotta respect it. RIP
This channel is wild. You deserve way more subs
I dont understand people who enjoy cave diving. I cant imagine anything more scary than cave diving. Especially in winter...
Thats not even the full story. The government banned diving the plura cave so they set up a secret operation to retrieve their friends and documented the whole thing. I wont spoil it for you but its on amazon or netflix and the film is called "diving into the unknown" (and its epic)
I will never understand the pleasure people get from this pass time. Cold, wet, claustrophobic and extremely dangerous. Knitting maybe a bit nicer
Knitting is more dangerous cuz of the waste of the time and boredom
Very good channel. Love your narrator, very informative. Kept me invested. I've heard this story before, but this is the best version. I am definitely subbing.😊
Thank you! Appreciate it
the story is very sad
More people should watch this than some random stupid TikTok videos. This actually takes a lot of effort. Creating a 10 second TikTok video is peak lazyness, a sign of our useless braindead society.
Props to the 1 guy who faced his fears and went back in to get his fallen comrades
I wonder if they had any idea what a worldwide sensation they would become
I think not, many people become famous only after death, unfortunately
I really like the animations you add on your video!! Love your channel👌🏼👌🏼
Same. I like the neurotic flailing around like a family guy character
As a swede, I remember this showing up on the news and I never knew to much about this incident until I found this video and now the full image really shows it self
Thanks for sharing this
Love from Sweden
Can’t imagine having a pass time that requires me to leave my dying friends behind. Not for me.
Apparently you actually value the lives of your friends. Some people, not so much.
They says in the army/marine we leave no man behind, yet there are those called MIA ,missing in action or were they left behind
What actually killed the second guy? I didnt understand? Seemed like he died just from seeing the other dead body?
Panic is deadly down there. Get excited and that's all she wrote.
You know those itch beneath the skin where you just can't get to? He had that. RIP
@@wikafuka8522come on now, be nice
I find it strange that all these certified pro experts go out on these dives but most of them end up panicking to their death. But what do I know.
The grieving should be more just acceptance on a dive like that. It should be no surprise when encountering your friend’s body down there. You’re each playing Russian roulette.
Say your goodbyes on the ice before even attempting something like that.
And when you say “bye” to the wife and kids….you mean goodbye.
Also, cutting through the ice in subzero temps in Norway…..it’s going to freeze up quickly. An orange marker placed underwater at the spot would go a long way so you aren’t clueless as to where the exit is.
The whole thing is insane tho so why worry about those details? R.I.P. fellas
They did not think they were coming back that way, so they didn't care about the hole closing nor marking the hole. But you are correct, you should prepare for every possibility
@@ThatGiggleshittergood point. But it seems like you'd want a backup plan.
That's the part I don't understand. But I know when someone I've loved has died, even if they're very old, I've always gasped and kind of lost control of my emotions. But it sort of seems like you should be at peace with dying.
@@mirandastephens4586first backup plan have someone talk you out of it
No mitigating circumstances. No cave collapses. No floods or currents. No equipment failures. Just panic that created another panic. First guy got his scooter cord momentarily caught on a rock. Incorrectly faults a tank for blocking him. Gets his cord clear of the rocks, but by that time he's too frustrated and scared calm back down and catch his breath. The second guy died of sheer dreed.