Kinda ridiculous idea None of the Iron Born respected Theon when he returned Not his father, nor his sister, or his uncles This scenario seems impossible
Damn so what we've learned here is Theon can never catch a break and the Ironborn are dumb and gullible. Why on earth would they think they can take westeros at this point it seems Stannis is King, likely once he gives back Sansa, Robb will end his war and killing Tywins will make the Martells happy. The other kingdoms might actually be united. It'll just be the same as Balons rebellion
Well Stannis won’t stand for Northern independence. He likely won’t give back Sansa unless Robb bends the knee, which he will not do. So Stannis will have to fight the North, Riverlands, and potentially the Vale if Littlefinger comes to power. With that being said, the Northern coalition has more prospects for an alliance with the Tyrells than Stannis. So the Reach could come on side as well. The Iron Islands is still screwed though. Since if Euron actually takes Kings Landing while Stannis is fighting the rest of Westeros every single other kingdom will unite against him if they hadn’t already sided with Robb.
@@johndo7484 The independence of the North is not as absolute as it seems. With Stannis on the Throne, an agreement is more than likely and possible, especially if it falls just before the call of the Wall. If the North calls Robb, he must return. Everything will depend on the diplomacy of whoever is Hand of Stannis (Davos?). And how worried the Lords are about a King who follows R'hllor. At best. Stannis secures the North by uniting they Houses, a marriage between Bran and Shireen. An alliance against Tywin's forces and pacification of the Kingdom in favor of winter. At worst. A Stannis in King's Landing destroys the union. If it took a Maegor to sustain the Targaryen incest, Stannis does not have the strength to sustain his faith. The Reach, Dorne and Iron island will seek their independence. In defense of his faith and ambitions. Vale of Arryn, it will depend... Lysa in this timeline is alive, Petyr would lose his prospects with the fall of Lannister so prematurely. he wouldn't have Harrenhall. Robb wouldn't give it to him... So his only chance to secure something may be to speed up his escape with Sansa. Trying to keep himself in a good eye with Robb and the North (Perhaps thus securing Harrenhall) or do something in the Vale. But the Vale, if it were up to the nobles, would possibly join the Kingdom of the North and the Rivers. But they could also fight for their independence.
Belon: pay the iron price, i am not allying with stark even thou it clearly the best option for our indepenence Theon: I just bought me a kingdom dint i Belon: i have never been so proud my boy
Dude I just wanna thank you for all these what it's because ever since I finished the audio books and spin offs it's been hard to get any game of thrones content but these have amazing to listen on my way to work
@@quadeong7453 you mean in this vid, or in canon? Cos Theon is still alive in the books... And just cos someone dies doesn't mean they are literally cursed. Here I'm talking the way the Frey's were looked down upon and hated by even most of their own Allies after the Red Wedding.
@@DraconimLt No one knew he killed Balon. As far as they knew, Qarl the Maid did it for an unknown reason. Some might suspect Theon to have done it, but none would be able to prove it.
I love this channel so much and can not wait for it to grow and for more videos to drop. Lowkey when I found it there was only two videos and I was disappointed because I wanted to keep binging lmao.
I'd change flaming arrows for normal arrows and boiling oil for boiling water. The Lannister may be rich but no one is going to throw away their money, and those two are misconceptions that should be removed from peoples' minds.
Yah boiling oil wasn’t widely used back in the day. It was mostly pitch afaik. But they also didn’t really use swords that much either. Asoiaf seems to structure its world around a stereotype of what medieval times was like rather than what it really was, as that would be kinda boring lol.
@@johndo7484 I think that would be the HBO series (the swords thing). The books doesn't say much about the actual warfare. I mean, look at battle of the bastards, awful from a realistic (strategic and warfare) standpoint. Good enough spectacle.
Hahaha I like how you presented this scenario while avoiding a lot of the potential issues people brought up in that comment chain on the other video, well done.
Euron better have one hell of a plan. XD with Rob, Stannis, the Flayed Men and the Lannister's still in existence, well... Even if not at full strength, the iron born do not have the numbers or strength to take on all these foes alone. Given you seem to be going via the book version of Euron, I'm guessing his plan will involve magic. XD
I have a scenario I haven’t seen yet What if all the failed pregnancies of Aerys and Rhaella, had been healthy live children? That would be a total of 10 Targaryen heirs, the most since Daeron II’s time
I would love to have these what ifs continue until the very end. Also what if you create an Episode about a story after the events of game of thrones season 8 for example. Great Videos as always ❤
Why would there be King’s moot ? Aeron only called for one after Baelon because Euron had claimed the Seastone chair, it was an attempt to prevent Euron from becoming king, this wouldn’t happen in your AU, Euron isn’t there to spook Aeron so it would just automatically pass to Theon, Victarion wouldn’t protest this, Asha couldn’t contest if no one else dose, Euron would be too far away
Theon was my favorite character from the books. Why in every theory does he get screwed over? He deserves a win. Unlike every 'true' Stark, he was the most like Ned. He believed in honor and family, to the point where he had to choose between them and kept his honor by turning back to his family. He did wrong, yes, everyone does. That's the point of the books. My issue is he's always, ALWAYS the whipping boy for everything. Give him a chance.
Lower the like target to 1000 sir! This already a great story. Best ever ck2 play as Robb stark (well mostly did him had some great ones haha) was when Balon just died and Theon my friend ruled the Ironborn. Married off Sansa for alliance. so many wars he didnt let me join hahha he didnt want me to win quick and stop his pillaging so just let him go be him hahaha he always backed up mine but would never let me join his unless a civil war. Married Mycella and killed the rest (sent Jamie and Tryion to the wall, me boys). Had one kid but Dany joined my court, so killed Mycella and forbade my first sn from Marrying haha. When Robb died took the West and Iron Throne, united the realm again and waited to die haha. Good times good times
What if Robb joind Stannis What if Robb stark wasnt named king. What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Tywin survied what if greens won dance of dragons. What if vale joind Robb. What if Aemond defeated daemond. What if Stannis won battle of blackwater continiation.
What if Robb joind Stannis What if Robb stark wasnt named king. What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Tywin survied what if greens won dance of dragons. What if vale joind Robb. What if Aemond defeated daemond. What if Stannis won battle of blackwater continiation. What if Viserys named Aegon heir. What if Viserys invaded westeros with dohraki
Kin slaying is a huge taboo in Westeros, elsewise Victarion would have killed Euron years ago, so it's unlikely the Iron Borne would follow anyone. Also how many allies does Robb need? "What if Tywin Lannister joined Robb to depose Joffrey and Cersei?"
You are doing such a great job: making all of us waiting for WoW super happy. Can you please do a WHAT IF Rickard listened to Lyanna and bethroted her to Jaime?
You lost me with Euron's forces killing their fellow Ironborn garrison. There'd be nothing to gain, and plenty of risk of word getting out. Euron might be crazy but he's not stupid.
THERE IS NO KINGSMOOT!! What are you on about?? Theon is Balon’s eldest son and heir, and was never publicly disinherited. The succession is clear, there is zero excuse for a Moot. Aeron has no reason to drum one up either; Euron is uninvolved and poses no danger to the rest of House Greyjoy.
@@Aaron_Guest Yes. She tainted the honor of the Vale and showed that if Lady Arryn can’t be trusted to aid her direct family (the Tullys/Starks), how can she be trusted to rule the Vale until her son comes of age. Lord Royce (he’s the first Vale lord that came to mind, perhaps another) takes the title of Regent and declares for the Starks?
Good job I love your content, but I did do not like your other theories this one fit more do it because HBO destroyed Game of Thrones in book wise there is no what apps, but didn’t show. This is how I pictured the outcome would be inside of him being a coward Bravo just bravo well done on this one but I’m still watching your other stuff. Let’s see if you can up the ante of the other ones so far I’m not impressed but I do love your content and love your ideas but the issue is I have different ideas of what the outcomes would be. This one is more lying of my thoughts of the outcome too well done.
This channell seems like it asks AI to come up with storylines, and then the guy records the script. Then runs it through an AI voice generator, so you have Geralt of Rivia as the narrator alongside the character voices from the show. They are alright videos, but the plastic nature of them shines through which makes it hard to listen regularly. I got excited by the channel at first.
Take a listen to the video again. I tell my VA to take occasional breaths during narration to show he isn’t AI. I don’t think an AI breathes does it ? lol bro just has an amazing voice
2,000 likes for a part 2 🎉👀
i dont like videos but i like them for you
Kinda ridiculous idea
None of the Iron Born respected Theon when he returned
Not his father, nor his sister, or his uncles
This scenario seems impossible
Part 2!!
Of course, when it's not Balon's incompetence ruining things, Euron's madness comes out to play
Happy that Theon spared himself the REEK path
Damn so what we've learned here is Theon can never catch a break and the Ironborn are dumb and gullible.
Why on earth would they think they can take westeros at this point it seems Stannis is King, likely once he gives back Sansa, Robb will end his war and killing Tywins will make the Martells happy. The other kingdoms might actually be united. It'll just be the same as Balons rebellion
Well Stannis won’t stand for Northern independence. He likely won’t give back Sansa unless Robb bends the knee, which he will not do. So Stannis will have to fight the North, Riverlands, and potentially the Vale if Littlefinger comes to power. With that being said, the Northern coalition has more prospects for an alliance with the Tyrells than Stannis. So the Reach could come on side as well. The Iron Islands is still screwed though. Since if Euron actually takes Kings Landing while
Stannis is fighting the rest of Westeros every single other kingdom will unite against him if they hadn’t already sided with Robb.
@@johndo7484 The independence of the North is not as absolute as it seems. With Stannis on the Throne, an agreement is more than likely and possible, especially if it falls just before the call of the Wall. If the North calls Robb, he must return. Everything will depend on the diplomacy of whoever is Hand of Stannis (Davos?). And how worried the Lords are about a King who follows R'hllor.
At best. Stannis secures the North by uniting they Houses, a marriage between Bran and Shireen.
An alliance against Tywin's forces and pacification of the Kingdom in favor of winter.
At worst. A Stannis in King's Landing destroys the union. If it took a Maegor to sustain the Targaryen incest, Stannis does not have the strength to sustain his faith. The Reach, Dorne and Iron island will seek their independence. In defense of his faith and ambitions. Vale of Arryn, it will depend... Lysa in this timeline is alive, Petyr would lose his prospects with the fall of Lannister so prematurely. he wouldn't have Harrenhall. Robb wouldn't give it to him... So his only chance to secure something may be to speed up his escape with Sansa. Trying to keep himself in a good eye with Robb and the North (Perhaps thus securing Harrenhall) or do something in the Vale. But the Vale, if it were up to the nobles, would possibly join the Kingdom of the North and the Rivers. But they could also fight for their independence.
Wow, this guy kinda sounds familiar
First time I saw a vid I literally thought it was an AI copycat lol
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@@Dante_YL 😂😅
Who is he
Are you mocking the my comment about when I found this channel? :D
So if Theon wasn’t an insecure child?
Belon: pay the iron price, i am not allying with stark even thou it clearly the best option for our indepenence
Theon: I just bought me a kingdom dint i
Belon: i have never been so proud my boy
I don’t know how this plays out. But I can’t imagine it’s worst than being a eunuch.
That’s probably worse than most things 😅
@@ThreeEyedTheoristok fished the video. Seems like Theon just can’t win. Also Iron born delusional as always. 🤦🏿♂️😂
Dude I just wanna thank you for all these what it's because ever since I finished the audio books and spin offs it's been hard to get any game of thrones content but these have amazing to listen on my way to work
No, thank you for listening Nick 🤝
YOU ACTUALLY DID IT AND IT'S AMAZING
Love your work 😊😊😊
Thank you so much 😀 glad you’re enjoying the videos
What if Jaime was at the Tower Of Joy?
Jaime would be 17, born in 266ac, tower of joy 283ac, mad king killed in 281 or 282, jaime was knighted at 15/16
Then he'd be a Kinslayer and therefore cursed in the eyes of Westeros. It's seen as almost as bad as Breaking Guest Rights.
Well he died so that scans.
@@quadeong7453 you mean in this vid, or in canon? Cos Theon is still alive in the books...
And just cos someone dies doesn't mean they are literally cursed. Here I'm talking the way the Frey's were looked down upon and hated by even most of their own Allies after the Red Wedding.
@@DraconimLt No one knew he killed Balon. As far as they knew, Qarl the Maid did it for an unknown reason. Some might suspect Theon to have done it, but none would be able to prove it.
@@Lolpy. you talking about the vid? I didn't watch it, I was replying to the title!
@@DraconimLtNo disrespect but that's the problem. You made an assumption based on the title.
Brilliant as always!
I love this channel so much and can not wait for it to grow and for more videos to drop.
Lowkey when I found it there was only two videos and I was disappointed because I wanted to keep binging lmao.
A fine video as allways!
Theons speech is neat here, its like the opposite of yaras speech in the books
You mad lad! You actually did it!
I'd change flaming arrows for normal arrows and boiling oil for boiling water. The Lannister may be rich but no one is going to throw away their money, and those two are misconceptions that should be removed from peoples' minds.
Hot sand is also a common defensive weapon. Especially because it stuck to armor and weapons
Yah boiling oil wasn’t widely used back in the day. It was mostly pitch afaik. But they also didn’t really use swords that much either. Asoiaf seems to structure its world around a stereotype of what medieval times was like rather than what it really was, as that would be kinda boring lol.
@@johndo7484 I think that would be the HBO series (the swords thing). The books doesn't say much about the actual warfare. I mean, look at battle of the bastards, awful from a realistic (strategic and warfare) standpoint. Good enough spectacle.
@@fran3ro That’s a good point. I guess we’ll see. Didn’t GRRM have a lot of say on the show for the first 4 or 5 seasons through?
You can't judge the books, for what isn't in it.@fran3ro
Brilliant once again.
All we have now are “What ifs” considering George RR Martin pretty much admitted he’s never finishing the series
Hahaha I like how you presented this scenario while avoiding a lot of the potential issues people brought up in that comment chain on the other video, well done.
Always improving 🤝🫡
Euron better have one hell of a plan. XD with Rob, Stannis, the Flayed Men and the Lannister's still in existence, well... Even if not at full strength, the iron born do not have the numbers or strength to take on all these foes alone.
Given you seem to be going via the book version of Euron, I'm guessing his plan will involve magic. XD
Great Video
Interesting that he uploads long high quality vids like every two days that's definitely not suspicious
Soon even more often, aim is for 5 a week once we get comfortable with the current system
What the hell are you on about?
"What If...All The Starks Lived?"
Great video, subbed
I have a scenario I haven’t seen yet
What if all the failed pregnancies of Aerys and Rhaella, had been healthy live children?
That would be a total of 10 Targaryen heirs, the most since Daeron II’s time
I would love to have these what ifs continue until the very end.
Also what if you create an Episode about a story after the events of game of thrones season 8 for example.
Great Videos as always ❤
great stuff!
:-)
Thanks!
Theon pays the Iron Price for the Iron Chair.
How to win the ironborn's kingship? Start your speech laughing 👌 (Love your content btw very thought out and immersive ^^)
My favorite one thus far
I take it this is a continuation of "What If Stannis Baratheon Defeated The Lannisters at Blackwater", given it was referenced.
Why would there be King’s moot ? Aeron only called for one after Baelon because Euron had claimed the Seastone chair, it was an attempt to prevent Euron from becoming king, this wouldn’t happen in your AU, Euron isn’t there to spook Aeron so it would just automatically pass to Theon, Victarion wouldn’t protest this, Asha couldn’t contest if no one else dose, Euron would be too far away
It was more because their was no male heir of Balon hence euron was a great threat to claim the isles
His smiling eye lol
"Yara"? I believe you mean Asha.
Theon can't buy a break. Euron has it out for him in every version.
Bro doesn’t miss 🔥
You gave Theon charisma.
Theon was my favorite character from the books. Why in every theory does he get screwed over? He deserves a win. Unlike every 'true' Stark, he was the most like Ned. He believed in honor and family, to the point where he had to choose between them and kept his honor by turning back to his family. He did wrong, yes, everyone does. That's the point of the books. My issue is he's always, ALWAYS the whipping boy for everything. Give him a chance.
Keep up the good! Hearth please ❤❤❤❤
Lower the like target to 1000 sir! This already a great story. Best ever ck2 play as Robb stark (well mostly did him had some great ones haha) was when Balon just died and Theon my friend ruled the Ironborn. Married off Sansa for alliance. so many wars he didnt let me join hahha he didnt want me to win quick and stop his pillaging so just let him go be him hahaha he always backed up mine but would never let me join his unless a civil war. Married Mycella and killed the rest (sent Jamie and Tryion to the wall, me boys). Had one kid but Dany joined my court, so killed Mycella and forbade my first sn from Marrying haha. When Robb died took the West and Iron Throne, united the realm again and waited to die haha. Good times good times
What if Robb joind Stannis What if Robb stark wasnt named king. What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Tywin survied what if greens won dance of dragons. What if vale joind Robb. What if Aemond defeated daemond. What if Stannis won battle of blackwater continiation.
Ha! A good win for Stannis and the Redwines.
That thumbnail lol😂
20:33 bro
I didn’t want to hear that squish
Tldr; doing the right thing don't always make you a hero😂
Could’ve just said what if Balon was not an idiot and chose to attack the westerlands.
What if Robb joind Stannis What if Robb stark wasnt named king. What if Stannis won battle of ice. What if Tywin survied what if greens won dance of dragons. What if vale joind Robb. What if Aemond defeated daemond. What if Stannis won battle of blackwater continiation. What if Viserys named Aegon heir. What if Viserys invaded westeros with dohraki
Kin slaying is a huge taboo in Westeros, elsewise Victarion would have killed Euron years ago, so it's unlikely the Iron Borne would follow anyone.
Also how many allies does Robb need? "What if Tywin Lannister joined Robb to depose Joffrey and Cersei?"
What if theon stark conquered the iron islands after they tried invading the north how would roberts rebellion or war of the 5 kings play out
Her name is Asha not Yara!
What If Khal Drogo didnt die ! ? ?
Tomorrow !
Euron randomly killing Theon was kind of lame.
Promise NO dragons? Looking forward ro see it still on ad😂
Why do you always let tommen escape like his mom wasn’t seconds from poisoning him 😂
Because in the books it says he wasn’t even in King’s Landing and was smuggled away prior to the battle.
@ oh that makes way more sense I’ve been so lost. I’m halfway through a clash of kings rn
@@SpongeWatchesahh ya that explains it. That happens a bit later
what if princess rhaegar marries cersei
What if aerys never became mad
Good story 😅😅
I feel like victarion would have killed euron pretty quickly
what is dead cannot die!
Mabey someone could be Sherlock Holmes and investigate
how he did it still counts as kinslaying
You can pull it off in med 2 asoiaf and got mods.
You are doing such a great job: making all of us waiting for WoW super happy. Can you please do a WHAT IF Rickard listened to Lyanna and bethroted her to Jaime?
I don't think he is Ai
😁
What if margeory Margeory rob stark
You lost me with Euron's forces killing their fellow Ironborn garrison. There'd be nothing to gain, and plenty of risk of word getting out. Euron might be crazy but he's not stupid.
It could be to ensure no one knows what happened and that Euron killed Theon and to discredit him by having Theon’s own conquest be lost.
love your videos, but please... it's sorties (sor-tees)
THERE IS NO KINGSMOOT!! What are you on about?? Theon is Balon’s eldest son and heir, and was never publicly disinherited. The succession is clear, there is zero excuse for a Moot. Aeron has no reason to drum one up either; Euron is uninvolved and poses no danger to the rest of House Greyjoy.
No the ironborn have an elective monarchy
Are those voices AI and are you the one saying them? How do you do that?
Practice
What if Lysa Arryn was deposed by the Lords of the Vale, say by Houses Royce and Corbray, for being mad (before Littlefinger can marry her)?
A great time for this would be when she refuses to join Robb.
@@Aaron_Guest Yes. She tainted the honor of the Vale and showed that if Lady Arryn can’t be trusted to aid her direct family (the Tullys/Starks), how can she be trusted to rule the Vale until her son comes of age. Lord Royce (he’s the first Vale lord that came to mind, perhaps another) takes the title of Regent and declares for the Starks?
@devilonyourshoulder8845 I'd say it'd be Yohn Royce who becomes regent.
Good job I love your content, but I did do not like your other theories this one fit more do it because HBO destroyed Game of Thrones in book wise there is no what apps, but didn’t show. This is how I pictured the outcome would be inside of him being a coward Bravo just bravo well done on this one but I’m still watching your other stuff. Let’s see if you can up the ante of the other ones so far I’m not impressed but I do love your content and love your ideas but the issue is I have different ideas of what the outcomes would be. This one is more lying of my thoughts of the outcome too well done.
Based
This is made by AI?
man this only makes me hate Euron more
What if the Dial of Destiny (from the last disappointing Indiana Jones movie) didn't opened a portal to the past but a portal to Westeros?
This channell seems like it asks AI to come up with storylines, and then the guy records the script. Then runs it through an AI voice generator, so you have Geralt of Rivia as the narrator alongside the character voices from the show.
They are alright videos, but the plastic nature of them shines through which makes it hard to listen regularly. I got excited by the channel at first.
I mean, I don't think they are AI made
@basileusbman8910 how are they made then?
@@kai_johnsonn man says he has voice actors, until proof of the opposite that's what we're going with
@evan-bunch-of-numbers for a small youtube channel that doesn't pay. Okay. Well, great if so, makes the listening bearable
Take a listen to the video again. I tell my VA to take occasional breaths during narration to show he isn’t AI. I don’t think an AI breathes does it ? lol bro just has an amazing voice
Theon sucks