Transformers Rise of The Dark Spark - What Happened?
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what song is that playing at the end? it slaps
Can you do one for MegaMan X6 and MegaMan x7?
@@mrsupergt1#meToo
Apparently the Cybertron story continues on to transformer prime which makes no sense
Wait?? Why did they pull the TRANSFORMERS team.. from Transformers, and put them on a SUPERHERO game... and put the new team, that has done a superhero game BEFORE...... onto Transformers???? answer me Activision??? please/????????
stop using logic
"Stop saying stupid shit Spike" - From some G1 Heavy Metal War parody.
@@MattMcMuscles Activision doesn't care about logic or your feelings
"Marvel is giving us money with deadpool. Highmoon just made us money, put them on it so it can make money. Put someone else on Transformers, it will make money cause we already got those fans."
Oh hi Creeps. Nice to see you here.
Normal Studios: “We May have had a flop but we can come back! We’ve had 2 hits and one miss!”
Activision Studios: “You made a game that didn’t give us all the money in the world? *D I E*
This is the funniest comment I've read in a while. LOL :)
They killed off WFC, DOTM, and FOC, and we all know how those games turned out, so clearly, Activision can just pick and choose what games they wanna shut down for the fun of it
"That's one less lose end"
You were given another studio’s ip, a shoddily bashed together design plan and barely enough time, resources, money or experience to hit AAA profit margins? Death for you.
@@Sonichero151”High Moon! It’s Radical Entertainment! Do not trust Activision! I say again… do not trust Activision! Luxoflux, hold the left flank!”
OPERATION: DEPRESSION
I'm with you on that one.
Thank you for keeping Cybertron alive
High Moon: Superior. Activision: Inferior.
Operation:dissapointment
Thank you @Johnnyflash for keeping the cyberteon games still alive, High Moon studios blesses you
“You’re Optimus Prime fighting...Megatron?” -A very confused man
Shits crazy man can't believe they finally got optimus to fight megatron
yeah that would never happen in lore activision has obviously never watched the anime
@@aussakagamine8862 Darn shame. Armada was a fun watch.
He had a gun aim at him, you can see him looking for way to escape
:P
“Metroplex heads the call of the last Prime...”
“Metroplex did not die for this...”
Till...(whimper)....Till....All are one waaaaaaaaa
Please accept my apologies. I always get emotional at funerals.
Dragoh09 He’s in n a better place now. A place far away from the Bayverse
Imagine sacrificing yourself to help a franchise crash into their doom...
Metroplex: *Pikachu face*
"such a sad and disappointing end to what was going to be a promising storyline" is basically transformers media in a nutshell
Hasbro is scared to do anything non G1, after Bay & co, Activision and The failure of the Alligned comtinuity.
The IDW comics might be the only piece of Transformers media ever produced to have a satisfying ending
I was about to try and argue this, then realised I couldn't and now I'm sad
@@battleupsaber462 Don't forget Beast Wars
@@stonefree7973 Yeah, but then Beast Machines happened
I love how photoshopping Bobby's face became an internet pasttime because it ruins his dates when they google him.
@@sphingxx Hey hey, now. Sseth is a handsome devil at least. Bobby Kotick is just a wretch of a man that gets mad about people doodling demon horns on him. He's his own caricature.
@@sphingxx Hey Hey people.
Yeah what next, Bobby Kotick Becomes Bobby Hill. XD
@@zydian_ I'm sure his paycheck will be enough to guarantee him some dates; just not with decent people.
@@sphingxx We all know he's actually an African warlord though
I'm still devastated by this game. If Activision was gonna tie the Cybertron gameverse with anything why not do it with TF Prime? Although they're technically in the same continuity the show runners didn't really care if they contradicted pre-established elements. So this would've been the perfect opportunity to fix some of those errors.
You sir are a genius
They didn't want to spend the time or money making another movie game that they were obligated to make when the Cybertron games were more popular, so they tied the Cybertron games into the movies trying to have their cake and eat it too. Unfortunately all this did was make a shit cake nobody wanted because they were too tone deaf to realize people who liked the Cybertron games largely hated the movies.
Yes but that requires a brain and some common fucking sense, something that the head of activision seems to be lacking
Lmfao agreed
Good call. Makes perfect sense from a fan’s perspective.
I think Matt gave the answer though, there was a contract with Paramount as well as Hasbro. They just had to release something, anything, to tie in with the 4th Bayverse film. It was just faster and easier for Activision bosses to slap together the Cybertron and Bayverse into one game, story and continuity be damned... And so they did.
I don't think a single person on the planet, Transformers fan or otherwise, wanted to see the universe of the High Moon TF games crossover with the Micheal Bay TF movies
As a resident of this planet, and someone who has been with Transformers since 1984 - I concur.
@@zuttoaragi8349 Spiderman comics I think
@@DinoDave150 Yeah the Michael Bay films were some dumb popcorn action flicks with nothing to really make them special, heck the first one actually holds up the most out of all of them, which each entry seemed to decline in quality with each entry, with the more recent one Bumblebee, the Spin Off prequel, ended up being the Transformers film that a lot of people wanted, but it was too little too late, with Michael Bay not being given license or his pals anytime soon. I do think Michael Bay's TMNT is not bad, especially the second one with Krang in my opinion, just take it or leave it kinda thing.
Back in 2014, I was in full-on "Fuck Bayformers" mode. So suffice to say, I was pretty disgusted.
@@DinoDave150 I actually loved both the Bay and High Moon transformers...
I still to this day, dare say that Activision is a worse publisher than EA.
I cant wait for the inevitable merger!
That's kinda like saying the black plague is worse than the Spanish flu.
You need not dare, it's a pretty well-established fact.
Why do we even need one to be worse?
@@cacomeat7385 C&C remaster wasn't by EA. Nor even published
"You're... Optimus Prime, fighting Megatron?" ~ The dude that literally played OP since the franchise started
the dude is getting close to 80 years old now, he was probably just hedging his bets considering how confusing the story is to everyone else.
The man said what was on the paper in deep voice no shits were given about him knowing anything if you watch the movies his performance is monotone but his voice is velvet so they got away with it i would bet like 1000000 bucks that he has no idea what the story of the bay - formers movies actually is
@@Da_Shark Michael Bay didn't have any idea where the story was going, not the VA's fault.
The script he is reading is wrong and he corrected it himself with Megatron.
Studio: Exists
Activision: Proceed your way to oblivion.
Koticron: I will give you a smaller studio, and new CoDs to work support on.
High Moon: And?
Koticron: AND NOTHING. You belong to me, now.
HM: I BELONG TO NOBODY!
Activision? Who is Activision?
"A company that devours everything in its path..."
"AND YOU'LL DIE TRYING, JUST LIKE HIGH MOON STUDIOS!!" - Ultra Magnus...if he understood irony.
Studio: Exists
Activision: So... You have chosen death
Oh my God 😂😂😂😂😂
Rise of the Dark Spark is like having a cousin who’s related to you and you hate the fact that he is.
Good old Cousin Eddie
I heard Cousin Dark Spark was arrested for crystal meth possession in a Denny's bathroom again. When will he ever learn?
I sincerely love this comment
@@planetschlock Legend has it, he's still face down in his Fresh&Fruity.
This one always hurts, especially since you cant get them digitally anymore. The fact 3rd party companies are still makeing toys of the Cybertron designs show how much it was loved by fans.
David DuBey I’m pretty sure they got rereleased on Xbone and PS4 awhile ago
@@DinoDave150 I remember playing the fall of Cybertron demo when I was younger. The multiplayer was so much fun, god it was good
@@DinoDave150 I had no idea FoC was remastered and it's one of my favorite licensed games. Oof, talk about shit marketing.
@@DinoDave150 ...Is there any way to acquire the remaster still?
@@DinoDave150 I haven't checked but you should be able to pirate them
Also fun fact: I was the one who discovered the "We made this game in 6 months" texture within the game. I did not know it was being circulated around and found it's way to some corners of the internet. Color me surprised, and still shocks me that it was made in that length. I fee bad for the developers for this mess.
Fun fact about how rushed this game is, movie Grimlock carries a mace, while FOC Grimlock has a sword. Despite this Movie Grimlock still uses all of FOC Grimlock's stabbing and decapitation animations from FOC.
It was so jarring watching movie Grimlock "stabbing" decepticons with a weapon very clearly not intended for stabbing
@@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 it was honestly kinda disorienting, that same sense of uncanniness you get when you put the wrong model in a cutscene.
Yeah that was super weird to see! But another thing I noticed is that the transformations got worse and that you would see someone jump to transform and then 1 frame later they were already their alt form and we didn’t get to see the parts moving and shifting in place, very distracting.
@@sadchild9478 To be fair that issue was also present in Fall of Cybertron, most noticeably with characters like Megatron
Someone who comments on youtube videos yeah true dat homie but I feel like it got worse in Rise of The Dark Spark but I could be wrong
Peter Cullen sounds like a someone in one of those hostage videos, where the terrorists force the person to read their ransom letter
Imagine what could've been if the trilogy had maintained consistent quality
Imagine if Activision actually cared about the games it published and wasn't a greedy short-sighted fuckdump of a publisher run by greedy short-sighted fuckdumps of humanoid Decepticons
It really is a bummer. I attribute War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron as what got me back into Transformers as an adult and started my TF collecting habit.
@@serina3872 Much as I liked Prime, I still feel they could of done a proper sequel without being a part of the Aligned Continuity
It gives you more freedom to go crazy with your game rather than having to be bound to an excising property
Cybertron universe might have been successful enough to become its own continuity separate from Aligned universe instead of the inconsistent mishmash we have now
I wanted to see what happened after that vortex
I remember buying this knowing i wouldn't like it. I didn't like it.
Why'd you buy it then?
@@jmjedi923 Same reason why i pre ordered The Amazing Spider-Man 2 on the 360 I'm a shill.
I completed it an tried to get a refund, Steam said no which I think is unfair because they shouldn't be selling unfinished products on their store
I feel you bro...I feel you there....it's depressing.
@@ZB3003 Honestly, I remember the Amazing Spider-Man 2 game being surprisingly decent. Call it a guilty pleasure, I dunno.
highmoon was also dumped on destiny for a bit, real shame that theey couldn't hang onto their baby, esspecially considering it was by far one of the best takes on the transformers
It was High Moon that did Warmind with Bungie! Thank you for reminding me.
Gosh I remember seeing High Moon attached to that expansion and getting pretty optimistic about it. Sadly they had the task of shoving one of the biggest pieces of Destiny lore, a freaking Worm God, into a 4 hour expansion... Utter madness.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos They also helped with Forsaken, they at least made the Tangled Shore, and I bet they helped make the Scorn too. I mean, some of them use guns that shoot chainsaws, straight out of FoC.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos d2 was vastly mismangaged, hope bungie can steer it in a better direction
69 likes, Gnice.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos Vicarious Visions did Warmind. High Moon did the PC port of Destiny 2 and helped out with Forsaken and Black Armoury. Now that Bungie is going it alone with Destiny 2, who knows what's in store for High Moon next.
Activision: *takes transformers away from high moon and gives them deadpool*
*dark spark fails*
Activision: but the last transformers games were a success. How could this have failed?
@@zuttoaragi8349 it's Activision.
Name me a AAA publisher that doesn't go crazy and gets rid of a studio because of a bad choice made by the publisher
@@benracer Nintendo?_?
Hey you said any xD
Nino Chaosdrache oh yeah, UBisoft is one of those companies with studios in places you'd never expect. lots of mobile games you've never heard of. truly ass-blasting their talents in every direction
There is actually a sequel: The Transformers Prime animated series is technically in the same universe, things don't line up exactly but it's as close we're gonna get
Well, that "technically" needs some air quotes, because the current "official" state is that they're separate universes but still related to each other in a "part of the same bigger overarching universe" sort of way. Transformers canon and continuity is *weird.*
But yeah, at the time of its creation, Prime was supposed to be a sequel.
Different universe, same universal cluster.
That whole "Aligned Continuity" thing they tried doing at the time just created a bigger clusterfuck than the one they were trying to fix.
@@SeekerLancer but hey atleast we got alot of good shows from it
@@gerard935
Still, the shows don't fit
Dammit Matt, was it necessary to show “that scene” from the G1 Transformers Movie at the end? I was just starting to cope with it after 30 years of absolute heartbreak.
Hilariously Hasbro made this huge info bible on the Fall of Cybertron/War For Cybertron universe to be used as the prime continuity from then on out that was pretty much totally forgotten about by everyone within a few years.
Yeah there was this big push to try and create a unified expanded universe and then they just said "fuck that" and act like it never happened.
yeah the aligned universe was a mess continuity wise, 2 different grimlocks, 2 sideswipes, the drastic change in designs for some characters like soundwave and the writers clearly not paying to much attention to anyone else's work, heck I remember trying to read one of the novels they published that was meant to setup war for cybertron game and half way through the book it starts blatantly contradicting the games
@@xtroguyver Don't forget Megatron's obsession with Dark Energon in the games, only to act like it was a totally new thing he just discovered in the first episode of TF Prime
Prime Soundwave was still pretty cool though
yeah as much as i liked Transformers Prime, that show completely fucked the Aligned Continuity as soon as episoe 1 came out, and the continuity got so much worse as the show went on.
When you succeed on dire straights, and then STILL get put through the ringer, only to get shut down, it could only be one of the big publishers like Activision.
The fact that they digitally delisted the Transformers games was just the final kick in the nads.
Here's hoping both Hollywood and the games industry takes a que from Bumblebee and gives Transformers the chance it deserves.
They didnt renew the license.. would you if you were them
@@petergianakopoulos4926 From the perspective of preserving games digitally for the sake of posterity? And the fact that War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron are both genuine PS3/360 era classics?
Plus the fact that Transformers is one of the biggest and most recogniseable brand names that spans nearly two generations?
Then YES.
It's a no-brainer in my opinion, put the franchise on ice for a bit, don't kill it off and relegate it to "It was ALL terrible."
It's genuinely about as daft as EA dropping the Lord of the Rings licence which left the BFME games stranded. I'm a genuine advocate for preserving games for posterity and the potential of cult-classic status. And delisting games so nobody can preserve them in their digital collections forever really does rub me the wrong way. Both examples I've given would make tremendous remasters.
Was the Bumblebee movie the bastard child of the Prime and Bayformers universes being unceremoniously thrown together in Rise of the Dark Spark?
Did something _good_ come out of this in the end?
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos fair enough then why dont offer to pay for the license then ? It's always easy to tell other people what to do with their money.
@Peter Gianakopoulos oh ya, let him pay for it as if he alone is worth a multimillion dollar video game company.
Good idea genius 👍
The two universes don't even meet in this "crossover". Literally, what was even the point!?
Money.
Didn't work, huh?
I love how everytime Activision closes down a studio they say it's a "cost saving measure" to "adjust costs with revenue" after doing things that prevent said revenue from coming in, management 101 right there write that down kids
Activision is more evil than the Decepticons, damn
Optimus Prime: "One shall stand, one shall fall."
Activision: "Why throw away your license so recklessly?!"
Optimus: That's a question you should ask yourself, Activision!
Activision: NO!!! I'll crush you with my bare profit margins!
Loved War for Cybertron. Loved Fall of Cybertron. Had no, freaking, IDEA that Dark Spark was a thing, and I’m kind of glad. The 2nd game was a good ending.
“Devastator from Revenge of the Fallen testicles sold separately”
It was around this time that Hasbro was attempting to create an 'aligned continuity', that is having all their major then in production Transformers media occuring in a single consistent universe. It was a terrible idea and lasted exactly long enough to fuck up a couple novels and the games.
@@zuttoaragi8349 Also Rescue Bots, which gave us an Optimus Prime toy calling back to Beast Wars with the name Optimus Primal and BW Megatron's T-Rex to robot with T-Rex head and T-Rex tail for arms transformation.
it seems to me like they wanted the Cybertron trilogy to be the new G1 continuity where all these stories would branch off from this trilogy of games, kind of like how G1 has a hundred sub-continuities that are all vaguley connected to the original cartoon but are all ultimatly their own thing.
the problem is that the Aligned Continuity was built on a swamp, the original trilogy wasn't even done yet by the time other stories were being written in this continuity and shows like Transformers Prime blatantly did not give a single fuck about the Cybertron games continuity.
Star Wars Legends for as batshit insane as it could get was being written around the idea that you cannot ignore the original trilogy and later on the prequel trilogy, this meant that no matter how crazy and self-contradictory the Legends stories got you could always count on the fact that the movies where an iron-clad foundation that can be built upon.
I disagree with you on that it was a terrible idea. Never understood why everyone decided to go along with their own versions of the characters (looking at you, Prime).
@@absolutelypitiful.600 because not everyone is on board with their project being part of some bigger universe? Not everyone is on board with the cinematic universe idea. Rescue bots wasn't even meant to be part of the aligned continuity, it was forced to be part of it. There's a difference between having a team that's willingly to do this cinematic universe thing and a team that doesn't wanna do that, do their own thing but you force them into your group project anyway
@@Kaiju-bm4ts Fair enough, but I've just never liked how disjointed everything is. I still like the idea of the aligned continuity, I would rather have one unified continuity of everything rather than multiple versions. But if you dislike the idea of it, that's also fine.
"You're Optimus Prime... fighting... Megatron?"
Bro, you're in the game and asking ME?
The Deadpool videogame is probably my favorite 7/10 I ever played.
1:06 Eww... Greed, apathy, pork and arrogance with a dash of corporate slime and a hint of evil. The taste of Bobby Kotick. 🤮
Chris Moos what angers me the most is the stupid, boneheaded decisions they (Activision) make and then blame the studio and close them down, despite it being solely Activisions own fault!
The "greedy pig" himself...just the way i love it...(that was sarcasm).😉😂
As a side note: this is what happened when you combine a movie tie in & original idea...doesn't make a good mix...😞😔
And a "company killer"...
They make a few good games in the past & present (most of the time) here & there...but still...
I would love it if somebody investigated Bobby's little fraudulent claims that makes an excuse for him to make his staggering salary in the first place, cause again almost everyone including people within the company are actually concerned of it, that if you were too get your detective mode on you could find a lot of red flags that could get the pig removed from his troff.
To me, he will forever be known as Bobby Kotex
@@planetschlock true, hehe. 😁
As a heads up, High Moon actually did take a break from CoD and helped to make the Destiny 2 PC port and it’s first DLC/Raid along with the Tangled Shore destination and the Season of the Forge DLC before Bungie split with activision.
Cute pfp, who's the character and artist?
@@autobotstarscream765 No fucking idea on both, it has been years
Oh baby. I wonder if we'll ever get a good Transformers game in the future.
We did get a decent movie, finally. Some great comics and a good animated series. Maybe there's hope for the games.
Devastation was ok if I remember correctly
So was War for Cybertron if anyone remembers that one.
@@vellinghem2187 Loved wfc, escalation in that game was so fun. foc, and devastation were great too, I also really liked the revenge of the fallen games multiplayer, and the ps2 armada game's fun too.
War for Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron, and Devestation are really good.
We need a War of Cybertron remake.
We are sadly having a series that has nothing to do with it...
1) Yes, or at least a remaster.
#RemasterWarForCybertron
2) Nice username and pfp, who's the artist on the latter?
Playing as a scientist in the WoCT MP was some of the coolest experiences I've ever had in an MP game.
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Played as a Scientist, which for some context...was the transformer class who turn into a jets. They were generally geared and meant for tactical uses like debuffing, support, and reconnaissance rather than attack, BUT...there were ways to make one a literal dive-assassin and it was hard because you had to use double barreled shotgun they could alternatively get, at point blank range, and from behind the head, and do it fast because Scientists were made of paper.
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It took so much practice and patience, but once you got it you could get experiences like flying in, transforming, one shotting even Soldier or Titan classes if the shot is successful, laying down a turret to disrupt or even kill their team mates around them, then transform again and fly off in seconds before a team has enough time to know what happened. It was just so sick.
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Reciting that whole story just to emphasize how hard this video hits me since I loved the first two games. The Cybertron games were just assassinated in the same way, and it's such a damn shame.
i remember those times. i will never forget them, was absolutely awesome
High Moon: WAIT! I still function!
Activision: Wanna bet?
00:34 "Ah, there you are. You were right at my side, all along." - Matt found the Moonlight Greatsword, good job
THAT'S where that was from. It was bugging me.
Man just yesterday I searched for these games on steam as I loved the first one. When I saw them delisted I was left thinking what the hell happened. Your video came just on time lol.
0:48
You really need to add Blizzard to those gravestones.
On god.
It's criminal that so many people will pretty much never get to experience the greatness that was War For Cybertron and Fall Of Cybertron, and infuriating that Activision screwed High Moon Studios over like they did. Also, I'm sad Luxoflux is no longer around. I loved Vigilante 8.
I've been a tf fan my whole life and I'm *still* mad about this.
One of the worst things was just how it was supposed to unite the continuity of the movies and the cybertron games but didnt actually fit into the continuity of either so ended up being pointless . This means it just sits on its own which i guess that part is good.
9:56 The most accurate depiction of Activision's business model ever made.
High Moon clearly loved Transformers. This was a colossal betrayal to both them and fans.
13:05 "actvision consistenly works to align its costs with its revenues...we are taking a reduction in staff at high moon studios" says the company with one of the most overpaid CEOs ever. Seriously, Bobby Kotick salary is so insanely huge that even shareholders think he earns too much. The absolute nerve that those AAA companies have saying "we need microtransaction because games are expensive" or "we need to cut content and staff" like they are some indie dev that had to sell his only car to buy a better computer.
Fun fact the war for and fall of cybertron series was connected to the Aligned continuity a prequel to TF Prime, Rescue bots, and RID 2015, the right of the dark spark is considered not cannon to the story
I love the little bit of James Rolfe love thrown in this episode. With his review of the transformer games on The Angry Video Game Nerd series on Cinemassacre.
Oh cool a Transformers Wut Happen
Yes. That's the title.
So if you're doing more Activision games, are you interested in Call of duty: Ghosts?
@@stephen2624 Wha Happun: Activision in general....and also why Bobby should be fired
@@MediaGhost_ That would be a very short video...Intro > Question> answer is bobby kotick is wha happun > end video.
Oh god, Ghosts. First game I ever pre ordered it and first game I ever hated.
I think he only does games that fail cod games always sold good
@@robertcastanpn288 While it sold good, doesn't mean he could look behind the scenes of what the fuck were they thinking. Also even if a game sold well at launch, the publisher would care if the DLCs sold well for returning players. Hence why nobody cares about black ops 4 after the launch
I feel like ‘Rise of the Dark Spark’ is like ‘Metroid: Other M’, the games are there but the fans agree that it either doesn’t count or just straight up ignored.
Wasn't Other M officially decanonized to bring the Metroid Prime trilogy back into canon and make room for Prime 4?
And just like other M, it killed the series it was a part of
@xid Which is where it was the whole time in the first place?
Somehow, I'm upset you forgot the name of the second movie, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, But considering what the movie was, well....I'm also kind of glad you forgot Revenge of the Fallen.
RotF is such an overhated film.
@@keyboardking777 considering who wrote RotF, it's not hated enough. Alex Kurtzman went on to write Star Trek Into Darkness, The Amazing Spider Man 2 and The Mummy (2017) while also becoming showrunner of Star Trek Discovery and Star Trek Lower Decks.
All of these terrible products.
@@luizfelipevbf5567 At least you're sensible and realize that the writers are to blame instead of jumping on the bandwagon and shifting all the hate on Michael Bay as if he directed, wrote, produced, and even ANIMATED the entire movie himself.
I loved that 2004 Transformers game when I was really young first game I got on ps2, it be pretty cool if you played it on the channel
I haven't heard anyone in my 20 years of being alive mention Dark Watch and know it
I found your series a few days ago and I gota say I LOVE "What Happened?"
Great job man!
Me: I hope someone like ea picks it up
EA: pay 10.95 to get the ability to transform
Me: Nevermind it had a good run
High moon transformers are the best transformers games.
As someone who worked on this flop at EoR... this is pritty much the story. For the curious though, here's the answer to why were there two disconnected stories in one game:
The original pitch for the game by EoR was that there would be a generation spanning story where Unicron is attempting to cross dimensions into the Cinematic universe. The Gen 1 Universe transformers (G1 cartoon), who beat their Unicron in The Transformers Movie, would actually be the first autobots to get word of this plan. Cell shaded G1 Transformers, including Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and Grimlock, would follow Unicron to the Cybertron universe. After a bit of fun on Cybertron where the G1 team get split up and meet with the local Autobots, the reunited teams would then break through to the Earth of the cinematic universe. There they'd recruit the transformers from the movies (well the movie game made by High Moon using the same game engine). Then they'd all fight to stop, who else but Unicron's herald, a new Galvatron created from the Cybertron universe's megatron. The final battle concludes with the team stopping Galvatron from opening a portal in the Cinematic universe to allow Unicron to cross over and devour the earth. (To be clear, while there would be respect for cannon from each universe, this could not be cannon for any universe)
In short the pitch was: Cell shaded cartoon Transformers with their silly characterizations, fighting beside the sci-fi war veterans of the Cybertron games, fighting beside the (im)mature bayformers. A massive crossover event to celebrate the anniversary!
Then a month or so into development EoR get's the word that we're scrapping that whole storyline. Among other notes, there will be no G1 universe characters allowed in the game. Well, that was a big part of the story, so the team then has to rewrite everything into a new story that doesn't need the Gen 1 characters. Which we do. Fast forward a few months further on and EoR gets word again that the story needs to change. EoR's game also can't have any interactions between the worlds, and we can't use Unicron or Galvatron, among other notes. (I don't know who made these demands but they weren't driven by EoR)
At this point development has been underway for a while, levels have already been built for the second pitched story. In order to get a game out in time the game must now be Re-re-written into two stories, one about (Cinematic) Earth's Transformers and one about (War for) Cybertron's Transformers. The only linking element being the macguffin of the "Dark Spark". And since development can't just start over, as much of the already developed levels as possible get cut into pieces, reshuffled, recontextualized, and glued back together to create the final storyline.
All of this, from pitch, to story rewrite, to second story rewrite, to the final form of the single player game that's shipped, happened in a little over 6 months, and the second rewrite happened in the third month.
I think (im)mature bayformers is the best way to describe the autobots. I really love the movies but I think that's the charm that makes them stand out a bit.
I love this show, idk how you find all the research that goes into these but they're amazing! And thanks for posting on a Sunday, when there's nothing new on!!
Yesss!!!!!!!! Thank you Matt. I did a rise of the dark spark episode last year and I was waiting for you to talk about it. Thank you!!!!
I'd know that voice anywhere..... HE'S GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO THE PAST.....
HE'D RATHER HAVE...A BUFFALO...TAKE A DIARRHEA DUMP IN HIS EAR!!!
"Big Bobby is back in the news again" God, that aged in a how shall we say special way
Oh man, don't forget that not only did they cram the Cybertron into the Bay movies, they were also crammed into both Transformers Prime and Rescue Bots continuity. Leaving some very confusing plotholes.
Example: Megatron in War for Cybertron knew what Dark Energon was and went to where the Autobots were hiding it. While in the first episode of Prime, Megatron flies into the Decepticon base with Dark Energon and literally goes: "Check this shit out! I've only heard rumors that it exists and never seen it before!!!!"
Like wut?
I loved highmoon's work on the first two Cybertron games so much. Those games where my immediate go to's after frustrating days at school and I would spend so many hours playing Multiplayer and Escalation with my friends. hearing how Activision tore Highmoon apart actually made me really sad. 😕
I played the high moon Cybertron games so much in their "Prime". It's legitimately depressing to get a post mortem and knowing that the servers are down now. I needed the closure though so thank you.
Your editing is incredible. Every time I watch your channel, I have a good time! Definitely heading to the flophouse after this.
Can I just say I really appreciate all of the Bobby kotick edits? They're brilliant.
Another masterpiece episode.
Fun fact,High Moon studios even helped out Bungie to make Destiny 2.
10:10 to 10:24.... you are a genius, sir. You nailed the Soundwave voice and everything. GREAT STUFF.
Im so glad you did this topic.
I was surprised that the beginning clip with the AVGN wasn't from Allie-RX, though I guess his channel was kinda left behind compared to others.
I know you’ve heard about it multiple times but I can’t wait to see a What Happened video about The Last of Us 2.
Ehh, doubt it. It's reviewing well, it's selling well and anyone with legitimate complaints have been branded as bigots or trolls by the community. By all accounts it's a hit.
@@gibbeynator I suppose we'll know once the dust settles whether or not it'll need it.
I've been watching a few of your videos lately, and this might be the best one I've seen! (Unfortunately the subject matter is upsetting to me, because Activision seems to ruin everything they touch)
I can tell you and your editor have a lot of love for Transformers and High Moon Studios. The music choices were fantastic and hit at the perfect time throughout the video. Very nice work!
As a some obsessed transformers fan with no life, I feel you represented our love-hate relationship with hasbro well, and truly spoke from the heart of a fan, good job.
Thank you Matt for a new wut happened I need to wash my eyes and brain with something good today thanks again
Well, that's just prime... It's executive meddling shenanigans like this, is why I have such a love-hate relation towards Activision.
Fiiiiinally!!! I've been waiting for this one.
I’ve been waiting for this video to come out
Anyone seen the Transformers Battleground trailer? If not, you’ll be even more disappointed.
So glad I skipped this flaming turd, the moment I saw High Moon wasn't involved I ignored it and almost forgot it existed. Thanks Matt.
Excellent video!
Is it my birthday and I just didn't know? Seriously though, thanks for talking about High Moons Transformers a bit Matt, I love those games💜
The 3DS version both series never even meet each other.
0:39 I said it once and I’ll say it again CURSE you ACTIVISION!!!!!!!!! 2:12 all that stuff on the screen is why I hate Activision. Activision butchering franchises since the 1980s but here is the thing they did a few good things for the video game industry but the rest is shit.
To be fair tho, Spider-Man PS1 was pretty cool back then. Spider-Man PS4 even had some callbacks to it.
Just throwing this out there, an Arc Sys developed Transformers 2D fighter.
That is my dream game with DBZ Fighterz graphics!
Oh yes, I have waited for an eternity for this
I was really disappointed with this installment. I really love the high moon game's and they do something stupid like this.
You should do one on the last of us 2, lol
Game is a 95 on metacritic and is breaking sales figures. By all metrics the game is a huge success.
Riding the bandwagon lul
It’s been a while since I’ve watched, you’re such a good writer Matt :)
I've been waiting for this episode.
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn always befuddled me with its long time in production hell and ultimate mediocrity.
lol
there is sort of a continuation of this. As the cybertron series are "sort of" part of the transformers aligned continuity, so its a prequel to the finominal transformers prime series.
Then robots in disguese 2015 happened.... might be something to look into, while not disaterus its widly thought of as one of the worst transformers series ever made, with crap toys, characters that have no real character development from episode to episode, throwing in a completly brand new version of grimlock becouse of movie and repeatadly at conventions being asked what happened to the characters from prime that werent shown and being denied that information..
Also Rescue Bots, which gave us an Optimus Prime toy calling back to Beast Wars with the name Optimus Primal and BW Megatron's T-Rex to robot with T-Rex head and T-Rex tail for arms transformation.
Robots in Disguise 2015 isn't the worst Transformers series, not by a long shot. Both the Energon cartoon and the Machinima Prime Wars Trilogy are absolute dogshit. RiD is just mid.
@@DJmouchi777
For me, RiD is below mid. That piece of shit has no rights to be existing, maybe except having Steeljaw be a bot.
And now Matt, netflix is making their own War for Cybertron mini series
This was really good. I love Fall of Cybertron, War for Cybertron, and Devastation. and this answered all my questions. We need a rerelease of all 3 in a pack