Vintage Lenses on the EOS R // Helios 44
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- the famous, swirly #bokeh producing #Helios44 on the #CanonEosR!
Adapting old lenses to your camera can create some beautiful images with PLENTY of character to set you apart in your photography or cinematography. And, they're an affordable way to experiment with new lenses and compositions.
What vintage lenses are you using and adapting to your dslr/mirrorless/cinema cameras?
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These are really easy to take apart and clean, the sweet spot is to have your subject about 6-7 feet away and your blurry background about 20-40 feet away and shoot this lens wide open! This lens is a gem!
Yes! Good to know about cleaning them. I agree that 5-7ft away is a sweet spot for portraits or people/pets. They are also good on closer up shots of flowers & smaller objects. Thanks!
The trick you mention is so true! I have found Canon cameras with EF lenses cheaper than bought just the lens. I think it's because people who sell just the lens may know what they're selling, while those who sell the camera just want some money to part with it.
Yes! One of the best tips I have heard on buying vintage lenses.
Loving these photos! I've been using some vintage lenses for my Fujifilm x-t1. Been loving it! Thanks for the video!
Thanks so much! I have several friends who absolutely love their Fujifilm x-t series cameras! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@JosephMcBrayer my pleasure Joseph! I've just put a video up of my vintage lens experience. I'll check out more of your content soon!
@@acecreates Yes--already watched a few videos of yours! Love the fun shirts!
@@JosephMcBrayer haha my bad mood Hawaiian shirt?!
Congrats on 500 subs! just became 501
Thanks so much! So very kind of you to notice and thanks for subscribing!
You should consider using the Sony A7ii or later series with your vintage lenses. I was shopping around and considered the EOS R, but what sold me on the Sony was the in body 5 axis image in body stabilization. That is actually something when you are shooting with vintage manual lenses. I found lots of them on eBay. So I bought a Sony A7Rii for $880 (about the same price as a rebuilt EOS R). I like Canon and own one, but it didn't have the in body stabilization. Also, I just ordered a 55mm f 1.2 lens adapter for $11 each. This Sony came with a M42 adapter. This will be my first mirrorless large sensor (44.2MP) camera. I never use Auto anything other than image stabilization. So this will work fine. It is a cheap way to get into this kind of camera. Nothing is free of concerns. This camera has a history of over heating in 4K mode (which I won't be using) and small batteries. There are fixes for the battery issue. Back in 2015 this camera cost a lot. Maybe the Canon EOS R will include in body stabilization.
Thanks for the suggestions-ibis is helpful for many situations. The Canon R6 ibis is working well for me these days.
Sure. I like Canon. The Sony A7Rii I just bought cost me $880. It is in great shape. Canon would have worked for me too. I own a Canon T7 now.
Thanks very much, great talking
Thank you for the kind comment. Glad you found it helpful.
it's wonderful photo =)
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it.
I noticed you had an additional mount on the camera. Which adapter was it? Also thank you for the helpful video! I'm switching to the EOS R soon and my primary lens is the Helios 44-2.
Yes, I have Helios lens adapted to an EF mount and then an EF - R mount adapter for the Eos R. Looks a little funky with the Helios, but the images are spectacular. Look forward to seeing your photos! (Do you post them online somewhere?!)
@@JosephMcBrayer Thank you for the info! I don't usually post many photos but as soon as I get an upgrade I'll for sure post them somewhere. I'll defiantly end up making a new photography account on either Facebook or Instagram!
@@Tat52585 That's great! When you do, feel free to drop it here so we can see!
@@JosephMcBrayer Will do! Thank you so much!
@@Tat52585so what's your insta?😂
You said “screw it right onto the camera” while screwing the M42-Adapter plate to a RF-EF-Adapter.
Did you try comparing the lense on an RF-M42 to your setup? I am wondering how much of a difference it makes to the lense, since you are changing the distance between the camera sensor and the glass.
Hi there-thanks for the comment and question. Since making this video, yes, I have tried mounting it with an rf-m42 adapter (the one from Urth). It looks about the same distance to me and images looked similarly great, but I’ve not done a closer analysis. Thanks, I’ll take a look at that.
Have you seen a difference or found that others’ have?
@@JosephMcBrayer I have not yet gotten any further information on that. Usually less distance between sensor and glass results in better image quality. That's the whole reason, why the RF-Mount leads to amazing picture quality ☺️.
Furthermore when designing a lense, the distance between glass and sensor is relevant for calculating focus distances. Maybe one should look at the Zenit cameras or other cameras with a M42-mount and measure the distance between the M42-lense and cameras sensor. But I guess that's what Urth and KF-concept already did for us when designing the adapters.
Why don't the all have the same measurements though? That's where I am puzzled🤔.
@@Dewabarasunderan that’s fascinating. I bought the 44-2 with a zenit so I’ll take a look at it and see what’s perhaps ‘closer’ to the zenit: a) the Urth Rf-m42 or the rf-ef-m42.
Thanks for these insights and please do let me know if you find if anyone here on YT or elsewhere has an explainer/faq on this.
@@JosephMcBrayer i bought the KF-Concept RF-M42-Adapter. It's pricey, but it feels rock solid.
@@Dewabarasunderan ok, glad to hear it feels good! Thanks again.
Nice video. I bought one few weeks ago from ebay and got it delivered yesterday. I tried using it with the adapter on my canon R6 II but as I was pressing the shutter button nothing was happening. I was wondering if there’s anything that I’ve missed or did wrong, maybe in the settings. Help will be greatly appreciated to get this thing working. Can’t wait to start shooting with it. Thanks in advance.
Thanks. You’ll need to turn on the “release shutter without lens” function which is in the menu under the orange camera icon. On the r6 mark 1 firmware v1.6.0 it is the 4th item down. Select that and it should allow you to release the shutter. Hope you enjoy the lens and the R6 ii!!
@@JosephMcBrayer thank you so much.
@@goddioscuri3058 of course- I hope that helps sort it out for you. Do you share any of the images online? If so, where could we see them?
Have you tried the direct RF adapter? Urth and Vello make them.
Yes-I do like the one from Urth so far-it is very well made. It is about the same size as the ef to rf adapter with the small m42 to ef adapter.
I use a lot of ef lenses (as I ahoot on blackmagic cameras as well) hence the ef glass.
Have you used either direct rf mount and if so what do you think of them?
(Thanks for watching & commenting!)
@@JosephMcBrayer my Helios is still in transit, but I’ll initially use it with the EF to RF adapter in between. Good to hear it works either way. I’ll eventually get the Urth M42 to RF.
@@fromdonwithlove awesome. Hope you enjoy the Helios as much as I do!
When I attach my Helios to my R with an adapter every button on the camera stops working. Can't get into a single setting or take photos/video. This lens works perfecting on our Canon C70. Have you ever had any issues??
That’s interesting (and I’m sure frustrating!). I’ve not had that problem before. Does it happen with other screw mount lenses?
On thing I thought of is, (and you may already know this) you have to go into the menu to do the “release shutter without lens” to be able to use manual lenses for photos.
I’ll do a search on it but this is the first I’ve heard of it.
@@JosephMcBrayer All other weird lenses work but this one causes every button to stop working so I can't even get into the menu to change the shutter. It's a bummer because I specifically use the R as my "toy" camera and I would love to use this incredible lens on it.
@@OhanaFilms that is odd indeed. And it doesn’t do this with other screw mount lenses? It feels like there has to be some kind of contact issue or something.
Are you using a m42 to ef then to ef to rf adapter? Or is it m42 to rf?
(Also, I just saw your wedding films! They are so well done and glad to find y’all on Instagram!)
@@JosephMcBrayer Thanks for the kind words about our films.
The lens is using a M42 to EF that it attaches to an EF to RF mount. It works perfectly on other Canon cameras. I'm going to try covering the sensors on the M42 to RF mount and see if that helps. I think it might because I have used some VERY lo-fi plastic lenses on that camera with no issues. I think camera sees the sensors and gets confused. I will report back.
What’s the adapter I should use for a canon r6?
There are two options:
1) m42 to ef to rf (2 adapters)
M42 to EF adapter: amzn.to/374VCfO
Ef to Rf: amzn.to/46Ar0M2
Or
2) m42 to rf (1 adapter)
amzn.to/46wM6eh
Either is a good option depending on what you prefer. Hope that’s helpful!
@@JosephMcBrayer tysm! 🩶🩶
@@faridesalazar9106 of course!
Hello could you please specify what settings you need to use on the camera menu?
Hi there-Thanks. You’ll need to turn on the “release shutter without lens” function which is in the menu under the orange camera icon. On the r6 mark 1 firmware v1.6.0 it is the 4th item down. Select that and it should allow you to release the shutter with an older, adapted lens on it. Hope that helps.
OK thank you very much
@@paolomesseca8679 sure thing!
Do you have issues with the infinity focus not quite making it go Infinity?
I've not had that on my Helios 44_2, but I've read comments from other people having that issue. I'm not sure why unless the adapting to mirrorless is the issue. This lens is a m39 screwmount so all it needs is the screw in EF adapter and then the EF to RF adapter to go on there.
I found this video about Nikon cameras -- are you on Nikon or another system?
ua-cam.com/video/eTuXqGl1Q2I/v-deo.html
@@JosephMcBrayer I’m on a canon RP. I just ordered a M42-RF Adapter from Urth. So we shall see if that fixes the issue. Thanks for your help!
@@benvallance2057 oh, that’s a great idea for a potential fix. I’ll have to check that out for my use too. Thanks!
@@benvallance2057did it fix the issue?
Hi can you put a link of m44 ef adapter please
Sure thing-here’s a link and I’ll add it to the description! M42 to EF adapter: amzn.to/374VCfO
Bro, turn down the background music, takes away my focus.
Appreciate the feedback.
Have you used the FL series on this camera? Like the 55mm f 1.2 lens? The early 85mm Jupiter 9 lenses, silver with purple coating, look great.
You can forget about getting Russian lenses for now. I have all the vintage lenses I will ever need. Some of the Helios lenses are loose and sloppy. Some are not. I have both. Stay away from this guy: Russian HELIOS 81H 81N 50mm f2 Nikon Kiev Mount. The ripped off the Nikon mount and did a bad job of it. You will be grinding metal or at least I had to.
I’ve not had the chance to use the FLs or Jupiters. I agree that some copies of Helios lenses have issues. As with anything vintage, there are better and worse copies out there. Appreciate your warning on the Nikon mount and thanks for commenting here.
Here is what I have aquired and use, but right now I am really liking the f1.2 Olympus.
I am looking at getting a mirrorless camera to use these again.
I have a 2000D ASP-C, which is OK. My first removeable lens camera.
However, all these lenses with a full frame will be like having another complete set of lenses and I would like to be able to use the Canon FL 55mm f1.2 lens.
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Canon FL 55mm f1.2 Lens 1968 (1.05822 lbs)
Olympus OM-System G.Zuiko Auto-S 55mm f1.2 1974 Radioactive 3389 CPM
Auto Chinon MultiCoated 55mm f1.4 (TOMIOKA)
Auto Mamiya Sekor 55mm f1.4 with M42 Mount TOMIOKA Design Radioactive 460 CPM
Tomioka Auto Revuenon 55mm f1.4 M42 (TOMIOKA)
Olympus OM-System Zuiko MC Auto-S 50mm f1.4 Black Nose Radioactive 460 CPM (Great Color Rendering)
Asahi Super Takumar 50mm f1.4 Radioactive 2250 CPM SN 3237402
Russian ZENITAR-M 50mm f1.7
FUJINON 55mm f1.8
Asahi Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 55mm f1.8 Radioactive 750 CPM
Asahi Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 35mm f2 Radioactive 1850 CPM
Russian Jupiter 9 85mm f2 (1976 version) M42 Black with Blue Lens Coating
Russian Jupiter 9 85mm f2 (1966 version) M39 Silver with Lilac Lens Coating (Best)
Russian Helios 44-2 58mm f2 M42
Russian HELIOS 81H 81N 50mm f2 Nikon Kiev Mount
FUJINON 55mm f2.2
Takumar Super-Multi-Coated 135mm f2.5
Olympus OM-System H.Zuiko Auto-W 24mm f2.8 MF
FUJINON EBC SW 28mm f3.5
Asahi Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm f3.5
Takumar Super-Multi-Coated 135mm f3.5
Asahi Super Multi Coated Takumar 24mm f3.5
Pentax Super Multi Coated SMC Takumar 300mm F/4 Lens Screw Mount #J99717 2.08557