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We live in eastern Iowa and have just started looking into ground source heat pumps. The only vendor I've been able to get much info out of is Water Furnace. They're trying to find an installer closer to me - nearest one so far is 60 miles away. Because of the layout of our lot (we're on a hill with a walk out basement) Water Furnace indicates we'd need a vertical closed loop wells rather than a horizontal ground loop.
When you were talking about that one system losing water pressure that scared the crap out of me. My greatest fear is putting in several hundred feet of tubing into multiple vertical wells only to have a loop develop a leak a couple hundred feet underground. At least with the horizontal loops you could always bring in a back hoe, dig up the leaky section and patch it.
The few people I know who've put in systems with horizontal loops haven't had real good luck with them. We have dense clay soil here and it's relatively impervious to water. Consequently, I don't think the heat exchange between the horizontal ground loops with the soil is very good? The few people who've put in vertical wells, where you're going down into the water table seem to have better luck. All of them around here are closed ground loop systems - no open systems due to hard water and resultant heat exchanger fouling.
Do you know how often these ground source water loops develop leaks? Is it more prone to leaks with vertical wells or horizontal loops?
Any information would be appreciated.
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Homeowner here with a couple questions live in lower Michigan with a older unit installed in 2013 the last couple years I’ve experienced the pressure in the loop drop and fluctuate through the seasonal change but my loops have lost all pressure Today Once I filled loop back up to 35 pounds system off the loop will continue to lose pressure back down to zero within a few hours. This problem has never happened but we are experiencing crazy weather with the ground, freezing and thawing throughout the day and night
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As a homeowner level IV member in Michigan with a Geo Water furnace (Phone,E-Mail & text support) Taddy saved me BIG BUCKs!!! from the greasy slime HVAC scum in my area. He was always avail within minutes and got me back on line WARP Speed! God bless you for our warm Christmas. We need this guy in Washington! Very Knowledgeable no wasted time.
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@@TaddyDigest what is the model of these two water furnace geothermal units?
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I got hi pressure lockout on split system for upper level yesterday. Filter in air handler put in a few weeks ago, checked today and looks new. I had cleaned my spin down rusco filter which has some sediment. There was a good amount of icing on the filter. Lower level unit ran fine last night with no issues. I can’t seem to get upper level unit to blow any air thru vents whether in heat mode or cooling mode.
If that filter had icing on it it’s possible your fan is going out which is why you’re not feeling any air, if that evaporator coil doesn’t get airflow it will freeze as well. that or it could be low on refregerant.
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My WF primer 4 ton normally kicks off if my air filter is dirty, I just reset it power off then back on again, This time nothing, the board seems dead the relay and compressor works if I push in the manual. To test changed the 2 -10 amp fuses still nothing.is there a way to test the low and high sensors like jump them. To see if that is the problem. If so I can order an adapter kit sensor to connect either high or low inlet. if need be. Otherwise great unit scroll just purrs along.
What about If the breaker is on and the power still isn't on? Had a guy come and he didn't know whT he was doing and said he needed a piece and still waiting
Will this apply to geo thermal units in Canada? Or are they different then the US?
I have a low flow red light blinking on my water furnace.
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wow no strainer y-saks on that water i understand it’s probably A CL sys but still seen too many cl still water never optimized for cl & kill the systems while mostly avoidable by strainers i stalled, its a $30 extra piece of mind
I don’t have water.
The pressure switch did its job. I cut power for 2.25 hours hoping it would reset and it would refill when I turned the power back on but no.
Zero water going to my house probably means my pump is out in my main well. My worry is: do I keep the power off to everything until I can get a guy here to work on it or not. So frustrating that I can’t find a schematic online so I can find and reset the switch on my own.
My 5 series was installed in 2013, in 2021, the waterfurnace dealer added pressure to loop for $250. The pressur islow again and they said it is from the pex stretching with hot loop. They said it may have air in line. They installed it in 2013 shouldn't they have gotten the air out then?
Hey man, I'm having issues and my pump is not kicking off, there's a bladder tank thing on it that has busted twice now an started leaking. Shouldn't the pump kicked off once the system is primed?
Hey great video on high pressure but I have a WaterFurnace also and I have a lo pressure/comp and water flow codes. What does that mean?? Any ideas how to fix will be greatly appreciated.
Could be low on refrigerant
Could be low on water pressure
I will get some gauges hooked up
I have a high pressure lockout pulled the disconnect to reset after I added in water. Waited for the unit to come back on but as soon as it does the high pressure lockout comes u Wonder what's going on never been worked on before because the unit was taped off
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Restriction from filter dryer or TX V
Get gauge's on and check it out
hi teddy i have a geo system in a house i just bought its going off on high head pressure after it runs for 45 to hour the well pump is new can you help me in how to check the system I'm sure if the exchanger is bad or the well tks
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Do you u use a 1/16 or 1/8 th inch needle to repressurize? I have a 4 ton, 5- series water furnace with low loop pressure.
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Hello, how do you make the tool to check pressure? My complex loses it all the time ,I need my own.
You can buy one on ebay
Will a replacement water heater affect how the Geothermal system operates? Unit stop cooling in the middle of the day. The water heater to the system was replaced..
Usually the DHW circuit is apart from the Geo loop
But anything can happen and I would definitely Retrace
Is it acceptable to simply add 100% water back to the ground loop to fill back up and to clear a “high pressure” lockout? I thought that I read in the manual that a water+antifreeze combination was required?
Water Furnace Premier2 installed in 2002… P040TR111NADSSA with auxiliary heaters and desuperheater for DHW preheat
Where do you get the needles and parts to make a fill and gauge rig for the water furnace? I’ve looked all over for these things even my hvac supply houses and they look at me like I’m an alien ! I’m like damn! They sell the units so they have to sell the fill needles somewhere 😌any help would be greatly appreciated!
Look on ebay
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Where can I buy that vale setup
Water furnace pond loop installed in 2013. I've had to juice the loop twice in 8 months. I'm suspecting a loop leak somewhere. It's about 50 yards from the house to the pond.
For immediate monitoring, would there be any way to attach a Bluetooth pressure gauge to the water inlet fitting, or anywhere else (if so, where?), to monitor the system with an app?
The installation is in the crawl space.
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@@TaddyDigest Thanks! I had no idea that could be done. It at least keeps things going until the larger issue is identified and resolved.
the loop to the desuperheater on that second unit should be changed to copper
What happens to the water that was in the loop. Did you find a leak, or did you only fill the loop like a gas tank? What happens to the air when you added the water?
Just added water
Use the screws on the flow center to burp the air
Air flow light blinking red after removing and cleaning filter- I blew out the water drain hose, refilled with water but my AC is still not working and air flow light is still blinking. Any idea why my air flow light would be blinking red?
Is the fan blowing
I have a Envision commercial Geothermal Water Source Heat Pump in my home
Twice now in a month it’s stop working this time the HW HI Limit light was blinking.
The supply water is fine sitting at 24 psi supply 19 psi across the flow center pumps
Well water at 68 deg where out side is 93 deg.
The domestic hot water switches on and I have 34 psi on the supply side and 27 psi across the circulator 85 deg out 79 deg return.
Main fan and compressor are both running now
States light blinking green
Any thoughts on what’s causing my issue?
Are you using your hot water generator?
Are you using the hot water pump?
Model # NDV049TR051CBNB22QPA
Yes I’m using the HW unit with a small circulator and a domestic hot water tank. I have noticed lately that the water hasn’t been getting as hot as in the past. I do have a psi differential on each side of the small circulator so it’s working.
How do you charge it with refrigerant after replacing the coil? High side or low side?
low side
What was the tool you used for the pressure check. I keep forgetting the name. Lol. And I have a geothermal I'm working on that has high pressure and I'm thinking it's a flow issue
loop gooser
Will that tell me the pressure when system is running on a non pressurized system
Great video!
Is there such think as the loop loosing all its water without there being a leak somewhere?
I’m thinking like refrigerant, unless there’s a leak somewhere than the refrigerant will not leak.
Thank you for Watching I have found several loops out of water and after filling have no problems for years but every time it leaves me with questions like how
In my opinion absolutely no.just like a refrigeration system or car radiator if you loose, refrigerant, water,anti freeze ect. In a closed loop you have a leak ,sometimes if you just fill it and don't get all air out your pressure will drop from air vent bleeding. Thats my opinion that water didn't magically disappear, sometimes leak is in ground ?
Yeah leak is most definitely in the ground somewhere whether it's the header or the actual loop
The weird thing is is I charged it up and then it works for several years which I don't understand does the ground compaction around the leak stop the water from coming out as fast I don't know
@@TaddyDigest yea i dont know, but i sure you figure it out,i have alot of faith in you and your work.
What should the supply water pressure in a wshp close loop be
Great video thanks
Thanks. I have a GEO Thermo water furnace. It is approx 25 years old. It is a Premier. It keeps shutting off and the red light comes on and flashes. I reset it twice and it keeps shutting down. Do not know the problem.
I would need more info. That way, I could point you in the right direction
@@TaddyDigest What info do you want
Hi, I am living in the middle of nowhere. I have a hard time to get a service around my area. I have a Geo therma furnace system in my home. We have a high pressure problem need help ASAP 🙏🏻
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I see a a flashing LEDs it showed high pressure and drain flashing
Is a geo thermal unit just a water source heatpump, as far as the unit not loop.?
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My name is Dan. I have had a Water Furnace since 1996. Untill January of 2022 the register heat temperature was 95 on the low speed and 104 on the high speed. A technician came out and he replaced a capicitor and said the rest of the furnice was fine. The temperature now at the register is 91 on the low speed and on the high speed is 97. I think the unit needs some freon. He did not use gauges to test for freon pressure. I am ready to call the company back and insist that they check the pressure. What do you think??
those temps are pretty good I would definitely call if the temp drops any more than that
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My Waterfurnace unit has a blinking high pressure light on one unit (servicing downstairs) and a blinking low pressure unit on the other (split unit servicing upstairs). Not sure if this is the place to ask, but I'm not sure about what this means and what to do about it. :o
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Hey Taddy! I have a Water Furnace kicking off all the time. It shows high pressure and my repairman says the unit needs replaced which i simply can't afford. Are there other problems that will cause the High Pressure fault other than low water? I think it could also be low water volume but not sure.
low water volume is the most common
But it could be a restriction in the refrigeration side
It could be a bad pump
And it could be a few other things but I would need more details
@@TaddyDigest they are saying it’s the compressor. Is that possible? Most in my area don’t have much knowledge in geothermal and I think sometimes the easy answer for them is it needs replaced.
You are correct, it's much simpler for those who don't have any knowledge with geothermal equipment to just say it needs to be replaced
A bad compressor can cause a high pressure issue But most likely that is not the case
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@@TaddyDigest I get high pressure during hot weather, low flow during cold months. My unit shuts off and I find the Geolink circ pump very, very hot. I crack open the vent on the pump, steam puffs out. I reset unit, everything works fine for a few weeks. Repair technicians can't figure it out. Any ideas?
DHW light on! Need help please water furnace
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I have a Water-furnace red light says high-pressure air conditioner will not stay running
What I found was a blown fuse was not running the pump that circulates the water. A small glass 10 AMP fuse
Awesome you found the blown fuse on the main circuit board which controls the pump power
I would definitely check the pops make sure that they have been bled of air
And then also I would definitely check the water pressure
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I've changed dozens of those WF evaporator coils. Not super fun
I have a waterfurnace that the air flow led keeps blinking red what do I do?
Call technician
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I swap out and repair water furnace units all the time.but building has boilers and cooling towers not geo thermal
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