I drove international for most of my time as a bus driver. They seemed to handle starting in the cold better. The freightliners hated to wake up on cold mornings.
By the time you got back around to hit the key to try and start them again the pre heater was cold. Watch for the light and cycle it two or three times if really cold and then immediately crank. Most likely they use a grid heater instead of a glow plug as well. The CE started because you hit the key to crank immediately of the preheater cycled. Unnecessary wear on the starters and batteries.
Maxwell Green some do and some don’t. It depends on how it was setup from the two factories they came out of. Either way, the way he did it was absolute torture on those starters and batteries. Even if they did stay on after the initial cycle, by the time he back around to it they had went off and were cold again. I’ve done it both ways with using block heaters (preferred method) or just the preheaters. We have never done either one like this and that is down into the teens and maybe single digits a couple times a year.
I’d give serious consideration to having an additional block heater, standby generator for a good size battery charger, or building a garage to house these units- with a heater in the garage. You are not only putting excessive wear on the starters and batteries, but eventually a flywheel will get chewed up also. Good luck, hope something works out for you and your buses, mighty difficult way to go on a cold morning.
He said “Hold the key down” thats not healthy for the busses. The starter will burn up, battery will die quicker, and yea so this guys might need to consider going back to bus training.
That Thomas Saf-T-Liner FS-65 failed to start up because of the windchill that was -10°C Overnight. The temperature was 20°F when he tried to start it up. It was a heap of scrap.
At least the ford and international started. A good trick to get that freightliner started, take a heat gun and blow hot air in the intake. It’ll help warm the intake and cylinders up enough to get it started up. I did this with my 01 f350 7.3 during a really cold winter with temperatures up to -21 outside, also a good thing to have on hand to warm the fuel tank if the diesel gels up
It was a cold start on that Ford Corbeil. 2:10 is when you turned it to the on position to cold start it. The temperature was 20°F when you did it. It is pretty much impossible to start it at -40°C.
@@02intlbluebirdthat starter keeps going and going that’s why the Diesel engine won’t start it wants to but I hope not 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Well i wouldn't say modern these buses were made in 2007 I believe so there 14 years old International is now using Cummins engine's in there trucks and buses I don't know why I think it's the maxforce which was there biggest failure they were more problematic engines then the VT365 aka ford 6.0 powerstroke
Your letting the glow plugs cool down to mu h between cranking... have to glow 2 or 3 times then immediately crank or immediately crank after the glow plug light goes out
They do... the dude waited 2 minutes between each cycle before he'd crank them... thats why the ic fired right up after he cranked it when the plug finished its cycle.
Also, he never started the bus immeadialty after the 'INTAKE HEATER' or 'WAIT TO START' light went off. That is probaly why the were a little harder to start.
The glowplugs only run for a minute max, so the entire time he has them sitting on accessory the glow plugs aren't doing anything after that minute resulting in the engine needing to crank for a long time to build some heat back up (since diesels run off heat instead of spark). If he flipped it to accessory, and cranked it right as the Wait To Start lights when out they would've fired right up.
I drove international for most of my time as a bus driver. They seemed to handle starting in the cold better. The freightliners hated to wake up on cold mornings.
By the time you got back around to hit the key to try and start them again the pre heater was cold. Watch for the light and cycle it two or three times if really cold and then immediately crank. Most likely they use a grid heater instead of a glow plug as well.
The CE started because you hit the key to crank immediately of the preheater cycled. Unnecessary wear on the starters and batteries.
Maxwell Green some do and some don’t. It depends on how it was setup from the two factories they came out of. Either way, the way he did it was absolute torture on those starters and batteries.
Even if they did stay on after the initial cycle, by the time he back around to it they had went off and were cold again.
I’ve done it both ways with using block heaters (preferred method) or just the preheaters. We have never done either one like this and that is down into the teens and maybe single digits a couple times a year.
Just what I like to hear and see, these baby’s coming to life.
One bus running two are not won't turn over need battery blast heater on awesome video keep up the good work friend bless you happy new year 2020
I’d give serious consideration to having an additional block heater, standby generator for a good size battery charger, or building a garage to house these units- with a heater in the garage. You are not only putting excessive wear on the starters and batteries, but eventually a flywheel will get chewed up also. Good luck, hope something works out for you and your buses, mighty difficult way to go on a cold morning.
He said “Hold the key down” thats not healthy for the busses. The starter will burn up, battery will die quicker, and yea so this guys might need to consider going back to bus training.
Love the cranking ! Good Job Bruh !
That Thomas Saf-T-Liner FS-65 failed to start up because of the windchill that was -10°C Overnight. The temperature was 20°F when he tried to start it up. It was a heap of scrap.
At least the ford and international started. A good trick to get that freightliner started, take a heat gun and blow hot air in the intake. It’ll help warm the intake and cylinders up enough to get it started up. I did this with my 01 f350 7.3 during a really cold winter with temperatures up to -21 outside, also a good thing to have on hand to warm the fuel tank if the diesel gels up
It was a cold start on that Ford Corbeil. 2:10 is when you turned it to the on position to cold start it. The temperature was 20°F when you did it. It is pretty much impossible to start it at -40°C.
The pluss stop warning after 10sec, so you would benefit from glowing 2-3 times right after one and another..
Both the Ford E350 and IC both have the same engine VT365 there good if you gutt them and build them just right
wow now we have a 6.0l power Stroke & vt365 that's awesome!
Can u do a video of the exterior of that ford corbeil moving in reverse?
Buses thinking: were too cold to go pick up the kids make school close please! lol i hate going to school in the winter does anyone hate that too?
2:28 is that Jamin 94.5 from Boston
Heck yeah!
@@02intlbluebird that means we live close
@@02intlbluebirdthat starter keeps going and going that’s why the Diesel engine won’t start it wants to but I hope not 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
the poor starter on the ford bro 🤣😂
What’s the humming noise from the Freightliner?
Could hold the gas petel full blast and the key and it will start
if you rev a cold engine you could damage it just let it even out by itself dont crank it up at full blast
@@marylandsirensfirebuff9664 Once it starts then let off the throttle that’s what you do
I agree and he didn’t even do it Amateurs is all I can say
They would have started after all this time as they are relatively modern
Well i wouldn't say modern these buses were made in 2007 I believe so there 14 years old International is now using Cummins engine's in there trucks and buses I don't know why I think it's the maxforce which was there biggest failure they were more problematic engines then the VT365 aka ford 6.0 powerstroke
2:05 Whats the music?
Railman YT Official bruh
These would all start immediately if you would cycle the key and start, don't walk away. Your ruining your starters.
You know how glowplugs work right? Dosent seem so hehe
It must be super cold
That video was published today.
What happened to the first Bus
Radio ruined the whole startup of ford
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Please do another C2 Child check video
What happened to the first bus
Your letting the glow plugs cool down to mu h between cranking... have to glow 2 or 3 times then immediately crank or immediately crank after the glow plug light goes out
is that e450 a 4x4?
Yes
heat the glow plugs.....
What’s not good for the bus is not plugging in the buses in winter
Why don't these heaps have proper glowplugs?
They do... the dude waited 2 minutes between each cycle before he'd crank them... thats why the ic fired right up after he cranked it when the plug finished its cycle.
What JM811Cars said here, exactly that.
would the bus flood if you pumped the gas one time being they are diesel
Is it normal for those to take so long to start???
Yes, if in very cold climates and the block heaters are not plugged in.
Also, he never started the bus immeadialty after the 'INTAKE HEATER' or 'WAIT TO START' light went off. That is probaly why the were a little harder to start.
The glowplugs only run for a minute max, so the entire time he has them sitting on accessory the glow plugs aren't doing anything after that minute resulting in the engine needing to crank for a long time to build some heat back up (since diesels run off heat instead of spark). If he flipped it to accessory, and cranked it right as the Wait To Start lights when out they would've fired right up.
@@millerzj9GamingV2 Exactly...
Kind of, except this guy made it hard for himself as he waited too long and the plugs had cooled down before starting
Esos bus se calientan dos veces antes de darle a encender por qué los calentadores están demaciado frío.
I’m surprised the ford started
I brought myself 1international fe wheelchair
nice is it an old antram or ic ce?
Dios mío; el motor está frío
my buses are going to start retired soon
How about a some gas pedal pumps...that would solve the problem
You should’ve gave it some throttle dummy they would’ve started much easier and don’t crank the starter that long
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That does absolutely nothing to help start a c7 or 3126
@@bluebirdvision are there any diesel engines that actually helps doing that way at least in some of these buses?
427 Elevating Productions only mechanical engines but these are all computer controlled
2:04
The
Icce sounded like a horse
Turn the head lights off
NO 😡😡😡😡😡😡
All those buses are quadruple dog cursed to not want to start at all
where are the other buses
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Ford corbeil 4x4
Alex Marquis it’s there
@@02intlbluebird Freightliner it's not going to start the battery is dead
Those busses full throttle when there cold
Give them gas
You are supposed to let off the key
Ha found it
Xxx in background 🥺
Watching you do this seemed frustrating you did this so wrong
All those buses are quadruple cursed and jinxed and quadruple dog hexed to not want to start at all
Those buses are very quadruple dog cursed to not want to start at all