Actually there is a way to tell the ratchets apart! Look at the lines around the bit hole: For 60 there are 3 lines on each side For 80 there are 4 lines on each side And for 70 there are 4 lines on one side and 3 on the other
Always here to support my bros! Like always bro awesome video! Straight to the point on the explanation! Keep grinding man, hope you're doing good bro!
One thing i didnt hear you mention is the height of the contact points, like on a 4-60 the contact points and the ring they are attached to are half the size of a 5-60 in height. It could make a big difference in burst probabillity depending on wich blade it is used with.
here's an interesting idea i feel like no one has tried when you talked about ratchet weights. min maxed weight distribution combos. like i feel it would be interesting to see what would be the most outward distributed combos and inward distributed combos that still function in each gen. like for plastic i think heavy metal core would be mandatory for central, while the draciel shield blade base would be for outward. burst would probably use Longinus core for central and guilty blade for ourward. metal and x i don't know what would work but it would be cool to see what parts will do so. maybe wizard rod and then a bx bey with more metal towards the middle.
Gonna be all fun and games until the 0-60 ratchet drops (That is a joke I do not actually think that should exist). In all seriousness it'd be interesting if we get akin to 230 from mfb.
I have a question, are the 80 ratchets tighter? I noticed they have 4 lines around the hole instead of 3 like the 60 ratchets and wondered if that has something to do with the tightness
I do notice for me at least, most of the 80 height ratchets I have are slightly tighter. Lots of my 80 ratchets are harder to click in than the 60 ratchets
do you suppose the increased contact points of the 4-sided ratchet could be a benefit with the introduction of left spinning beys? theoretically, an opposite spinning bey wouldn't really burst the ratchet if it's contacting with the way it screws onto the blade. beyblade burst had the spring in the bottom to kinda encourage bursting, but with the X system, bursting is entirely based on knocking the parts loose
So the ratchets have a switch to change them from left to right, so left spin will still be able to burst against right spin it’s just going to work a little differently. I think 5 sided will probably be better for left depending on what we get. I imagine most of the left spin stuff we get will be attack oriented so I don’t imagine we will be getting a lot of spin stealers anytime soon but we will see what takara cooks up.
@@nizumablader i guess my thought was that, since the left spinning bey would be spinning in the same direction as the ratchet spins to clip onto the blade, that you may actually hit the protrusions and have a chance to re-tighten the ratchet if it becomes loose. i'm not saying it wont burst, but i'm curious to see how opposite spin battles play out when they are turning with the opponent's ratchet instead of against
I'm building a knight shield ball combo (cuz I like hell scythe, but I wanted to do something different, and I don't have wizard rod yet), and I was looking for a ratchet to use on it. Should I go with 3-60 to help with the burst resistance, or 5-60 to increase the weight and give it more stamina? (Or maybe another ratchet that's better)
A better way to tell the difference between rachets is the number of notches on the bottom. Where you would change them from right to left. (60 has 3 notches on each side, 70 has 4 on one side 3 on the other, 80 has 4 on each side)
Great information on ratchets! While I do agree that the 60 height ratchets are generally better, I don't completely agree that the 80 height ratchets are as bad as you made them seem. There definitely are cases where the height gives an advantage, most popular case being Hell Scythe 3-80B. Certain blades when given a height advantage, can cause the opponent to destabilize and make them lose balance easier
I definitely think 80 height has a place somewhere, I would definitely run 60 on scythe over 80 though. Hellscythe on 3-60b is one of the most common competitive combos since launch.
Sorry if i missed you say this but it aeems like theres literally no reason to play a taller ratchet if the same amount of sides is available lower. Only reason would be budget/availability? 😅
Yea but some combos do well on higher ratchets. I like Scythe Incendio on 80 ball cause for me at least, it seems to be able to defend better and same with Helm Knight
@@digisplosion well depends. Taller seems to defend smash attackers like Phoenix, buster, and dagger but die to stuff like shark. Shorter is a bit more one size fits all but I find to die very quickly to stuff like buster and sword.
In what scenario would someone be using a higher 80 rachet, ie what are the benefits? Also what are the functions of the blades and the difference between for eg 5 and 9?
The functions of the blade as in the top part of the beyblade. The difference in the nubs on ratchets just affects how easily it will burst and the balance. 4 sided is considered the worst for burst resistance. 9-60 is hardest to burst, 5-60 is fairly burst resistant and is the heavier of the ratchets. 80 height more often than not is not beneficial over 60 height but there are instances where you might want to use it.
@@nizumablader thanks for the quick reply. Could I assume that the lower the number of nubs the easier it is to burst? As for the height, I just can't think of a scenario where one would use a higher rachet. Hence I'm curious.
@@carr16k no not always, 3 sided, 9 sided, and 5 sided are all pretty decent. 4 just because of the shape for whatever reason tends to burst the easiest.
To be completely honest I don’t put 80 height on anything, I’m sure it has its place somewhere but competitively I don’t see a reason to use it over 60 at the moment. Could probably get away with 5-80 or 9-60 on some things.
This almost reminds of of the issue that 145 spintracks had back in metal saga. And for some reason they kept putting on defense types like rock leonie, rock Aries, Earth eagle, twisted tempo, etc, etc
Hey, are the Takara parts compatible with the Hasbro ones. If I have multiple of both can I mix and match pieces? I know you couldn't with the burst beys.
Do you have any tips for a ratchet that gets stuck to a blade? I decided to put a 3-80 on Rhino Horn and I can't seem to take it apart. 🤔😡 Do you know what the next best ratchet is to a 3-80? Please get back to me ASAP!
if taller and 4 sided rachet is at the disadvantage why bother making them?. or is there any merit using them? coz if none they will always be in the trash.
Is it not fairly obvious which Ratchets are more prone to Burst by just looking at the distance between each "Arm" on the Ratchet? On the obvious: More space means more chance for a part of an opponent's Blade to sneak in, catch and hit one of the ratchet arms.
Still, to my eyes, seems like not-60 ratchet are totally unplayable... 😅 I don't see any reason why you should want to be taller then the opponent and be prone to upper-attack and burst-finish. Nor, I cant't see any benefit that could overcome those big downsides. I mean, for 80 ratchet, I don't think they add too much weight to any bey configuration to be worth the risk. Also, I don't think the center of mass thing is so impactfull. 😅
Actually there is a way to tell the ratchets apart!
Look at the lines around the bit hole:
For 60 there are 3 lines on each side
For 80 there are 4 lines on each side
And for 70 there are 4 lines on one side and 3 on the other
That’s clean 😱 each line represents 10 to add up.. why did it take me this long to notice LOLL
Another way to tell at a glance for 70 height is that the area around the bit hole is octagonal instead of circular
Always here to support my bros! Like always bro awesome video! Straight to the point on the explanation! Keep grinding man, hope you're doing good bro!
thanks bro!
I can’t wait to get 4-90! It’ll be the BEST RATCHET
To me that would be too tall lol
Yea, especially on high needle 😂
4-90 would absolutely DESTROY the meta
@@Zcoolestgamingno tf it wouldn’t 4 sides is terrible 😂😂
@@Lu_Bu__ wooosh
One thing i didnt hear you mention is the height of the contact points, like on a 4-60 the contact points and the ring they are attached to are half the size of a 5-60 in height. It could make a big difference in burst probabillity depending on wich blade it is used with.
here's an interesting idea i feel like no one has tried when you talked about ratchet weights. min maxed weight distribution combos. like i feel it would be interesting to see what would be the most outward distributed combos and inward distributed combos that still function in each gen.
like for plastic i think heavy metal core would be mandatory for central, while the draciel shield blade base would be for outward. burst would probably use Longinus core for central and guilty blade for ourward.
metal and x i don't know what would work but it would be cool to see what parts will do so. maybe wizard rod and then a bx bey with more metal towards the middle.
Gonna be all fun and games until the 0-60 ratchet drops (That is a joke I do not actually think that should exist). In all seriousness it'd be interesting if we get akin to 230 from mfb.
I'm personally waiting for the 99-90 Ratchet. Can't wait to T-pose to victory.
Surprise, 0-80 ratchet's been announced. 😂
I have a question, are the 80 ratchets tighter? I noticed they have 4 lines around the hole instead of 3 like the 60 ratchets and wondered if that has something to do with the tightness
I haven’t notice that they are
I do notice for me at least, most of the 80 height ratchets I have are slightly tighter. Lots of my 80 ratchets are harder to click in than the 60 ratchets
80 ratchets are tighter actually
@@Zcoolestgaming this is speculation, there is certainly variance in tightness from ratchet to ratchet but 80 height is not universally tighter.
The best beyblade x ratchaets to use is 3-60,3-70,3-80,9-60,and 9-80 ratchet is what i would recommend for tournaments
5-60 and 5-70? I’d use both of those before 3-80 or 9-80
do you suppose the increased contact points of the 4-sided ratchet could be a benefit with the introduction of left spinning beys?
theoretically, an opposite spinning bey wouldn't really burst the ratchet if it's contacting with the way it screws onto the blade. beyblade burst had the spring in the bottom to kinda encourage bursting, but with the X system, bursting is entirely based on knocking the parts loose
So the ratchets have a switch to change them from left to right, so left spin will still be able to burst against right spin it’s just going to work a little differently. I think 5 sided will probably be better for left depending on what we get. I imagine most of the left spin stuff we get will be attack oriented so I don’t imagine we will be getting a lot of spin stealers anytime soon but we will see what takara cooks up.
@@nizumablader i guess my thought was that, since the left spinning bey would be spinning in the same direction as the ratchet spins to clip onto the blade, that you may actually hit the protrusions and have a chance to re-tighten the ratchet if it becomes loose.
i'm not saying it wont burst, but i'm curious to see how opposite spin battles play out when they are turning with the opponent's ratchet instead of against
It will play out the same way burst did
Layer contact would be the only way to burst the bey@@LucasTigy2
I'm building a knight shield ball combo (cuz I like hell scythe, but I wanted to do something different, and I don't have wizard rod yet), and I was looking for a ratchet to use on it. Should I go with 3-60 to help with the burst resistance, or 5-60 to increase the weight and give it more stamina? (Or maybe another ratchet that's better)
3-60 or 5-60 are both good picks
A better way to tell the difference between rachets is the number of notches on the bottom. Where you would change them from right to left. (60 has 3 notches on each side, 70 has 4 on one side 3 on the other, 80 has 4 on each side)
@@RustlerbashRC check the pinned comment
@@nizumablader I didn’t see that before lol. Thank you for replying, i love your videos!!!
Great information on ratchets! While I do agree that the 60 height ratchets are generally better, I don't completely agree that the 80 height ratchets are as bad as you made them seem. There definitely are cases where the height gives an advantage, most popular case being Hell Scythe 3-80B. Certain blades when given a height advantage, can cause the opponent to destabilize and make them lose balance easier
I definitely think 80 height has a place somewhere, I would definitely run 60 on scythe over 80 though. Hellscythe on 3-60b is one of the most common competitive combos since launch.
Sorry if i missed you say this but it aeems like theres literally no reason to play a taller ratchet if the same amount of sides is available lower. Only reason would be budget/availability? 😅
Basically lol
@@nizumablader 💀
Yea but some combos do well on higher ratchets. I like Scythe Incendio on 80 ball cause for me at least, it seems to be able to defend better and same with Helm Knight
@@sergxcalius9908 ooh interesting... and it performs worse on 60 in that aspect?
@@digisplosion well depends. Taller seems to defend smash attackers like Phoenix, buster, and dagger but die to stuff like shark. Shorter is a bit more one size fits all but I find to die very quickly to stuff like buster and sword.
In what scenario would someone be using a higher 80 rachet, ie what are the benefits? Also what are the functions of the blades and the difference between for eg 5 and 9?
The functions of the blade as in the top part of the beyblade. The difference in the nubs on ratchets just affects how easily it will burst and the balance. 4 sided is considered the worst for burst resistance. 9-60 is hardest to burst, 5-60 is fairly burst resistant and is the heavier of the ratchets. 80 height more often than not is not beneficial over 60 height but there are instances where you might want to use it.
@@nizumablader thanks for the quick reply. Could I assume that the lower the number of nubs the easier it is to burst? As for the height, I just can't think of a scenario where one would use a higher rachet. Hence I'm curious.
@@carr16k no not always, 3 sided, 9 sided, and 5 sided are all pretty decent. 4 just because of the shape for whatever reason tends to burst the easiest.
Is there any benefit at all to moving your centre of gravity up with an 80 ratchet? Does it help with stamina or anything?
Nope. Maybe it will be a good pick with the new stadium coming out but at the moment not huge benefits for 80 height for majority of things.
I have a question why continue to do stamina type and defense type at 80 height. The point defense type is to have much lower sense of being burst🤔😶
To be completely honest I don’t put 80 height on anything, I’m sure it has its place somewhere but competitively I don’t see a reason to use it over 60 at the moment. Could probably get away with 5-80 or 9-60 on some things.
@@nizumablader Yes that makes sense.
but why TT put it on 80. I want to figure out
@@phantomV630 they have to put it on something. Stock parts don’t always make sense, or rather they aren’t always optimal.
This almost reminds of of the issue that 145 spintracks had back in metal saga. And for some reason they kept putting on defense types like rock leonie, rock Aries, Earth eagle, twisted tempo, etc, etc
Hey, are the Takara parts compatible with the Hasbro ones. If I have multiple of both can I mix and match pieces? I know you couldn't with the burst beys.
Yes everything is cross compatible
Hey are ratchet cross compatible between hasbro and takara
Yes everything is cross compatible
When 6 years will have passed and the meta ratched will be the super short 4-20.
Dran Bazooka 4-20 Low Disc Metal Freespin Gear Point.
Nice Pendulum back there is that an OG release or a new one?
It’s an old d-1 Grand Prix
Do you have any tips for a ratchet that gets stuck to a blade? I decided to put a 3-80 on Rhino Horn and I can't seem to take it apart. 🤔😡 Do you know what the next best ratchet is to a 3-80? Please get back to me ASAP!
Might just be tight. I would rather use 3-60 or 3-70 if you have it.
@@nizumabladerDo you have any advice on how to detach it!?
@@KeeganMcKinney did you pull the bit out?
@@nizumablader yes
Sounds like it just a tight one. Make sure your twisting it clockwise to remove.
Primely 3-60 & 9-60🔥
The ratchet 9-80? Could be competitive?
Usable but still makes you prone to being top heavy and easy knocked out
if taller and 4 sided rachet is at the disadvantage why bother making them?. or is there any merit using them? coz if none they will always be in the trash.
Well not everything takara makes is good. Historically beyblade has always had parts that aren’t that great mixed in with the better stuff.
@@nizumablader so no advantage at all? That just sad all those unwanted parts.
@raikaroku x has done a decent job of keeping things relatively usable. 4-80 though is arguably the worst ratchet.
Is it not fairly obvious which Ratchets are more prone to Burst by just looking at the distance between each "Arm" on the Ratchet?
On the obvious: More space means more chance for a part of an opponent's Blade to sneak in, catch and hit one of the ratchet arms.
In theory but 1-60 isn’t super burst prone neither is 3-60.
I want a 0-60and 0-80 ratchat and also a 10-60,10-70,and 10-80 ratchat would be dope
I think 0 would be to busted lol.
@@nizumablader Make it oval shaped or off centred to throw it off balance
I have heard that two sided ratchets are horrible and to avoid any for competative matches
Yeah they are pretty bad
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So... is there any reason to ever run a higher ratchet over a shorter one? Ever?
Welllllllll at the moment I’m not sure there’s an advantage. I’d run 70 height but not really 80 height.
Still, to my eyes, seems like not-60 ratchet are totally unplayable... 😅 I don't see any reason why you should want to be taller then the opponent and be prone to upper-attack and burst-finish.
Nor, I cant't see any benefit that could overcome those big downsides. I mean, for 80 ratchet, I don't think they add too much weight to any bey configuration to be worth the risk. Also, I don't think the center of mass thing is so impactfull. 😅
I know that scale isn't only for weighing beyblades... Lol
It is. I have to much anxiety already to use it for anything else lol.
I already saw a vid like this one
Nice!
@@nizumablader your an awesome dude Nizuma!!